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matrohon | hi all | 15:02 |
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pcarver | hi | 15:03 |
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matrohon | hi pcarver, tmorin is not here today, I'm going to hold the meeting | 15:04 |
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matrohon | waiting one minute more for people to join | 15:05 |
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matrohon | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 4 15:05:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matrohon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:05 |
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matrohon | ok so no bing annoucement for me today, except taht I'm going to chair the meeting since tmorin is in vacation for 3 weeks | 15:06 |
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matrohon | we decided to keep the spec under the neutron-spec repo untill we have our first release | 15:07 |
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matrohon | we will move the spec to the bgpvpn repo and we will update it according to what is shipped with the first release | 15:08 |
svinota | hi all | 15:08 |
matrohon | hi svinota | 15:08 |
matrohon | pcarver, svinota : any announcement ? | 15:09 |
svinota | nope. | 15:09 |
pcarver | nothing from me. I think I've reviewed everything I'm aware of. | 15:10 |
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matrohon | #info : the implementation of the opencontrail driver has begun : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202806/ | 15:10 |
matrohon | #undo | 15:11 |
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openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0xa46fe10> | 15:11 |
matrohon | #topic announcement | 15:11 |
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matrohon | #info : the implementation of the opencontrail driver has begun : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202806/ | 15:11 |
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matrohon | #info : tmorin has started to introduce a policy.json for bgpvpn : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207914/ | 15:12 |
matrohon | #info : matrohon is working on the API split : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207371/ | 15:13 |
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matrohon | #info : svinota is working od RD attribute addition : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206536/ | 15:14 |
matrohon | can we discuss this attribute here svinota? | 15:14 |
svinota | matrohon, yep | 15:15 |
matrohon | #topic RD Attribute | 15:15 |
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matrohon | so as I reviewed, I'm concerned since not every driver will support this attribute | 15:16 |
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svinota | yep. And thus the driver can ignore it | 15:16 |
matrohon | this gone lead to an unexpected behavior if the user specifies a RD : the driver won't use it but the end user expect the driver to use it | 15:17 |
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svinota | so we have a simple choice | 15:18 |
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svinota | either to raise an exception, or to have a capabilities discovery + exception | 15:18 |
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matrohon | the capabilities discovery seems cleaner and such a framework already exists : it is the extension framework | 15:19 |
svinota | the exception is required anyway, since the user (or UI) may ignore the discovery, if I understand this correctly | 15:19 |
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matrohon | I think the exception framework will automatically generate an exception if the user want to use an attribute extension that is not supported by the implementation | 15:20 |
svinota | matrohon, so then I'm to implement the discovery | 15:20 |
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svinota | should not be too hard, I hope | 15:21 |
matrohon | cool | 15:21 |
matrohon | I don't think it's very hard, we can look at that together | 15:21 |
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matrohon | it's just an extension of the bgpvpnconnection object | 15:22 |
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svinota | ok, thanks | 15:22 |
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svinota | I will try to do it and submit to review. | 15:23 |
matrohon | #action : svinoto to work on an extension concerning the RD attribute | 15:23 |
matrohon | #undo | 15:23 |
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matrohon | #action : svinota to work on an extension concerning the RD attribute | 15:23 |
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matrohon | this kind of attribute extension may also be used to scan the "technique" parameter | 15:25 |
matrohon | not sure if it's a good idea, but this option is also backend dependent | 15:26 |
matrohon | we'll see once the RD attribute extension will exist | 15:27 |
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matrohon | we gone have a better idea of what is possible with the attribute extensions framework | 15:27 |
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matrohon | #topic Tests | 15:28 |
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matrohon | I really want to improve the test coverage of the bgpvpn code | 15:28 |
matrohon | this will help debugging and CI | 15:29 |
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matrohon | I'm trying to learn from existing project (vpnaas, etc...) but the unit test framework in neutron is quite tricky | 15:29 |
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matrohon | #action : matrohon to work on test coverage improvment | 15:30 |
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matrohon | #topic open discussion | 15:31 |
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matrohon | anybody wants to discuss something about bgpvpn | 15:31 |
matrohon | ? | 15:31 |
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matrohon | ok, pcarver, svinota, thanks for attending the meeting | 15:32 |
matrohon | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 4 15:33:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-08-04-15.05.html | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-08-04-15.05.txt | 15:33 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-08-04-15.05.log.html | 15:33 |
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svinota | matrohon, 10x | 15:35 |
matrohon | svinota : yep | 15:35 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 4 16:00:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-08-04_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-08-04_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
jjlehr | o/ | 16:00 |
Tango | Ton Ngo | 16:00 |
rpothier | o/ | 16:00 |
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mfalatic | o/ | 16:01 |
brendenblanco | o/ | 16:01 |
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fawadkhaliq | o/ | 16:01 |
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dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:02 |
jjfreric | jacob frericks | 16:02 |
eghobo | o/ | 16:02 |
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adrian_otto | hello jjlehr, Tango, rpothier, mfalatic, brendenblanco, fawadkhaliq, dane_leblanc, jjfreric, and eghobo | 16:03 |
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daneyon | here | 16:03 |
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adrian_otto | hello daneyon. Let's begin. | 16:04 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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wznoinsk1 | o/ | 16:04 |
adrian_otto | 1) Our Midcycle Meetup happens this week (tomorrow and Thursday). If you are attending in person, don't forget to register: | 16:04 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Midcycle Information | 16:04 |
adrian_otto | questions about the location, attendance, etc? | 16:04 |
adrian_otto | 2) adrian_otto will be out on 2015-08-25 due to travel to OpenStack Silicon Valley event. An alternate chair is needed for our team meeting on that day. | 16:05 |
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adrian_otto | I will be in the air at the time we are scheduled to meet, and chairing from in-flight wifi = bad idea. | 16:06 |
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adrian_otto | if you can help out with that, please ping me about it. Otherwise I'll follow up on this during our Midcycle or at our next week meeting | 16:06 |
daneyon | adrian_otto would you like me to address this topic or someone from neutron: Network: Neutron integration - Kuryr/flannel remote driver for libnetwork, flannel bridged mode | 16:06 |
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adrian_otto | if you'd like to address that briefly | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Container Networking Subteam Update | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | you can do it now | 16:07 |
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daneyon | OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm on the hook for the presenation. | 16:08 |
adrian_otto | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-07-30-18.00.html previous Container Networking Subteam Meeting Minutes | 16:08 |
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daneyon | We are starting to work with the kuryr team. Here is an therpad for our initial brainstorming: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr | 16:08 |
adrian_otto | daneyon, we need to sort out the remote presentation logistics today. Let's plan to regroup with Tango to sort that out | 16:09 |
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daneyon | Gal and/or Mestery will be attending the net subteam meeting later this week. | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | good, some high bandwidth discussion should help to advance us | 16:10 |
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daneyon | I updated the networking spec and I think we now have support of the neutron/kuryr team. I'm in the process of making a few final updates and it should be done | 16:10 |
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daneyon | adrian_otto sounds good re the remote logistics. It's pretty easy with webex. | 16:10 |
adrian_otto | I'd like to offer guidance for those of us here today, that if you vote -1 against a spec patch, please make your vote actionable. INdicate what exactly should change in order for you to reverse your vote. | 16:10 |
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adrian_otto | but simply voting against a spec with the equivalent of "I don't like it" is not as helpful as an actionable remark. | 16:11 |
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jjfreric | I agree, there's nothing more annoying than a -1 without a way to fix it | 16:11 |
daneyon | adrian_otto thx for adding that info. All, please take some time to cast your vote on the spec. It will be great to get the spec through and start the work to realize it. | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | use in-line comments to be specific. | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/204686 Magnum Container Networking Spec | 16:12 |
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adrian_otto | also keep in mind that a spec is also a living document, so if we want to revise it after merge, that's still possible. | 16:12 |
daneyon | thx to everyone for your participation and support with the net spec | 16:12 |
adrian_otto | the reason for that is so we don't spend too much time making it "perfect" before getting people working on it | 16:13 |
daneyon | any net specific questions? | 16:13 |
daneyon | I encourage everyone to take a few minutes to check out the initial kuryr design: https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/design.rst | 16:13 |
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daneyon | #link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/blob/master/doc/source/design.rst | 16:13 |
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adrian_otto | oh, that's new. | 16:14 |
daneyon | unless their are any questions, i'll hand it back to adrian_otto | 16:14 |
daneyon | adrian_otto, it is, I just did my first initial review and digesting the info. | 16:14 |
adrian_otto | Thanks daneyon | 16:14 |
daneyon | we will disuss the design in more detail during our net subteam meeting | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update | 16:15 |
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daneyon | adrian_otto yw | 16:15 |
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adrian_otto | anyone working on this? | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | Bradley Jones is not present today, is he? | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | my key concern is that we don't have any blueprints here yet: | 16:16 |
adrian_otto | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui | 16:16 |
Tango | I have asked 2 core members from Horizon to join the UI discussion during the midcycle. They should be able to discuss more. | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-horizon-plugin Web Interface for Magnum in Horizon | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | that seems to have no activity either. | 16:17 |
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bradjones | adrian_otto: I am here | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | oh wait | 16:17 |
bradjones | I have a list of BPs to add, I have been away past few days, will add them later today | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/188958 Web Interface for Magnum in Horizon | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | hi bradjones! | 16:18 |
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bradjones | I have been working on BayModel too, should be up for review shortly | 16:18 |
adrian_otto | ok, so will you be able to join us next Tuesdat at 2200 UTC for a subsequent update? | 16:18 |
bradjones | adrian_otto: sure will be there | 16:19 |
adrian_otto | If we are going to get this in during the Liberty release timeframe, we need to get rolling on it | 16:19 |
bradjones | adrian_otto: agreed | 16:19 |
adrian_otto | ok, thanks | 16:19 |
adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:19 |
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adrian_otto | now last meeting was chaired by juggler, and he went a little cookoo with action items | 16:19 |
adrian_otto | but let's rush through these | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | 1) Libnetwork team / daneyon to coordinate meeting for possible integration solution | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | Status? | 16:20 |
daneyon | the kuryr team will be joining our regular subteam meeting to discuss | 16:20 |
daneyon | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Container_Networking_Subteam_Meeting | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | this may be obviated my Midcycle discussions, right? | 16:20 |
daneyon | it's on the agenda | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | Status: obviated | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | 2) daneyon to update the wiki for net subteam meeting | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | Status: | 16:21 |
adrian_otto | complete, I think | 16:21 |
daneyon | and an ep has been created to assist with brainstorming the integration details | 16:21 |
daneyon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr | 16:21 |
adrian_otto | I saw an update there. Was it the update this action refers to? | 16:21 |
daneyon | yes, both are complete | 16:21 |
adrian_otto | thanks daneyon | 16:21 |
adrian_otto | Status: complete | 16:21 |
adrian_otto | 3) apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration | 16:21 |
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adrian_otto | Status: unknown | 16:22 |
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adrian_otto | 4) adrian_otto to table Hyper discussion to the ML or MidCycle | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | Status: complete | 16:22 |
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adrian_otto | 5) sdake/tcammann to sync up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay at MidCycle | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | #action sdake/tcammann to sync up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay at MidCycle | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | 6) implement TLS and non-TLS support with insecure off by default | 16:23 |
apmelton | hey yall, sorry for being late | 16:23 |
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adrian_otto | This should have been recorded as an #agreed rather than an #action | 16:23 |
adrian_otto | #agreed from 2015-07-28 team meeting: implement TLS and non-TLS support with insecure off by default | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | 7) establish tech debt ticket to remove insecure option | 16:24 |
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adrian_otto | This was not assigned to anyone. Any volunteers? | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | or maybe this got done and I have not noticed? | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to open tech debt ticket to remove insecure option | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | 8) Add Magnum UI update section to the agenda for future meetings | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | Status: complete | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | 9) All: Record MidCycle topics prior to the MidCycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-liberty-midcycle-topics | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | Status: Informational. | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | 10) Contact adrian_otto for MidCycle agenda discussion topics via e-mail | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | Status: Informational, obviated by etherpad. | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | apmelton, do you have remarks for #3: | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | 3) apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration | 16:25 |
apmelton | yea, I'd say it's started, but not complete | 16:26 |
apmelton | had a heck of a time trying to get barbican going with devstack, but it's going now | 16:26 |
adrian_otto | Status: Started | 16:26 |
adrian_otto | I will carry it forward for next week | 16:26 |
adrian_otto | #action apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration | 16:26 |
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apmelton | sounds good, I'm gonna try to have as much info as I can for the tls session(s) at the mid-cycle | 16:26 |
adrian_otto | Thanks apmelton | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | Any questions or concerns about any of the action items from last week? | 16:27 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review | 16:27 |
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adrian_otto | New Blueprints for Discussion | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | Team members may nominate new blueprints for discussion so they may be processed. | 16:27 |
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adrian_otto | so if you have a BP in status "New" that you'd like to be considered for the current release (and you are coming with engineering resources to get it done) this is the place to raise it for consideration. | 16:28 |
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adrian_otto | ok, so last week we talked about getting status for all the essential BP's on a wiki or etherpad that could be referenced at meeting time.. | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | I did not coordinate that this week, sorry. | 16:29 |
adrian_otto | would you like to step through these? | 16:29 |
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adrian_otto | if not, I'll pause for a moment, and you can ask about the ones you are interested in | 16:30 |
adrian_otto | I'm interested in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb | 16:30 |
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Tango | I can give some update | 16:31 |
adrian_otto | Work Items section in the BP shows every work item as INPROGRESS or TODO | 16:31 |
adrian_otto | can any of those be marked complete? | 16:31 |
Tango | Previously I mentioned about 2 issues: image problem and debugging k8s | 16:32 |
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Tango | the image problem has been resolved and I made the image/patches available for others to try k8s v1 | 16:32 |
Tango | I have been debugging the backend, going through the logs and go code | 16:33 |
Tango | I tried the google container IRC and ML, but could not get much help there | 16:33 |
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Tango | Now it's down to plowing through the code and adding more logging to see the error | 16:33 |
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Tango | I will update the items on the bp | 16:34 |
adrian_otto | thanks, it would be great if we could keep those essential BPs updated regularly so we can peek in there and see what's happening | 16:34 |
Tango | yep, will do | 16:34 |
adrian_otto | thanks | 16:35 |
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adrian_otto | ok, any other essential blueprints that made forward progress this week? | 16:35 |
adrian_otto | I know there was movement on our TLS/CA efforts | 16:35 |
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adrian_otto | perhaps we'll hear more about that at the MIdcycle | 16:37 |
adrian_otto | let's look at the midcycle agenda topics | 16:37 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-liberty-midcycle-topics Midcycle Agenda | 16:37 |
adrian_otto | #topic Midcycle Agenda Planning | 16:37 |
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adrian_otto | it might be nice to do a team retrospective for the first half of the liberty release | 16:39 |
adrian_otto | discuss things like: How are we doing as a team? What should we start/stop/continue to make the team more effective, or more engaging to be part of? | 16:39 |
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Tango | +1 | 16:39 |
apmelton | agreed, I think that'd be a good idea | 16:40 |
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adrian_otto | has anyone volunteered to give the Mesos bay type update? | 16:41 |
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adrian_otto | I don't think Hongbin is attending, is he? | 16:42 |
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Tango | He is coming to the midcycle, en route right now | 16:42 |
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adrian_otto | he is on the registration list | 16:44 |
adrian_otto | ok, good, Tango | 16:44 |
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adrian_otto | let's put names on each of these | 16:45 |
adrian_otto | who can speak to ironic integration? | 16:45 |
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adrian_otto | https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/templates/heat-kubernetes/kubecluster-fedora-ironic.yaml | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | has three contributors | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | I'll volunteer Hongbin | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | ok, that looks good enough for now | 16:47 |
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adrian_otto | feel free to make additional agenda suggestions in the etherpad | 16:47 |
adrian_otto | I will do my best to fit everything in | 16:47 |
adrian_otto | I did plan in "Parking Lot" time to discuss topics that come up in the coarse of our day | 16:48 |
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adrian_otto | corse | 16:48 |
adrian_otto | spelling today, sheesh. | 16:48 |
adrian_otto | c o u r s e | 16:48 |
adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:49 |
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daneyon | any updated on when the goog team will start participating? | 16:49 |
daneyon | updates | 16:49 |
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adrian_otto | daneyon: good question | 16:50 |
adrian_otto | I'll follow up with them right now | 16:50 |
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daneyon | ok, thx | 16:51 |
suro-patz | don't we have a conflict of Network sub-team meeting and mid-cycle day2? Do we have a plan to merge? | 16:51 |
suro-patz | daneyon: adrian_otto: ^^ | 16:52 |
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sdake | morning | 16:52 |
adrian_otto | hi sdake! | 16:52 |
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adrian_otto | I wanted to check to see if you are wiling to chair our team meeting on 2015-08-25? | 16:53 |
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adrian_otto | I will be traveling in order to attend OpenStack Silicon Valley | 16:53 |
adrian_otto | oh, I will be giving a Magnum update in the keynotes at that event. | 16:53 |
adrian_otto | hopefully that gets recorded on youtube somewhere. | 16:54 |
jjfreric | ^ Looking forward to that! | 16:54 |
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adrian_otto | #link http://sched.co/3nvy Containers: A Rapid-Fire Reality Check | 16:55 |
adrian_otto | jjfreric: will you be in our audience? | 16:57 |
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jjfreric | Remote, yes :) | 16:57 |
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daneyon | 2 min warning | 16:58 |
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jjfreric | I'll be in and out throughout the day. I couldn't shake the daily commitments :) | 16:58 |
daneyon | suro-patz let me double check the schedules and i'll make changes if needed. | 16:59 |
adrian_otto | time for us to wrap up | 16:59 |
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adrian_otto | our next team meeting is 2015-08-11 at 2200 UTC. See you then! | 16:59 |
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adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 4 16:59:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-08-04-16.00.html | 16:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-08-04-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-08-04-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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apmelton | o/ see y'all tomorrow! | 17:00 |
kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: you or I ? =) | 17:00 |
sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 4 17:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
kzaitsev_mb | ok =) | 17:00 |
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sergmelikyan | Hi folks o/ | 17:00 |
kzaitsev_mb | today's agenda is available at #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-08-04/ | 17:00 |
xiangxinyong | hi everyone! | 17:00 |
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Nikolay_St | \o/ | 17:01 |
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kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: is ativelkov coming, btw | 17:02 |
FilipBlaha | Hi | 17:02 |
sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: I am not sure :) He is in Israel... | 17:02 |
kzaitsev_mb | ok, thought you're in touch. seems like no then | 17:03 |
freerunner | o/ | 17:03 |
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sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:03 |
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sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: I am it touch with him but not like each minute :) | 17:03 |
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sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: #1kzaitsev_mb as soon as yaql and muranopl is ready — write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql | 17:04 |
sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: I think all commits are on review but not yet merged | 17:04 |
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kzaitsev_mb | yep, just today =) | 17:05 |
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sergmelikyan | We have a lots of people interested in YAQL, I guess we can send e-mail encouraging people to take a look before merge | 17:05 |
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kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208679/ the yaql commit, that according to stan is like rc1 (or is it 2?) | 17:06 |
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kzaitsev_mb | and a #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204099/ engine, ported to yaql 1.0 | 17:06 |
kzaitsev_mb | I'll reschedule the AI | 17:07 |
kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql | 17:08 |
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sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: why? | 17:08 |
kzaitsev_mb | what why? cause I have not written the email yet. cause the commits were only ready today. =) | 17:09 |
sergmelikyan | We can send e-mail anyway as I already send, or you think we should send 2 e-mails? | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | oh | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | #undo | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | ok | 17:09 |
sergmelikyan | */send/said | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | said or send? | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | that makes a looot of difference | 17:09 |
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sergmelikyan | said ) | 17:10 |
Nikolay_St | :) | 17:10 |
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kzaitsev_mb | so I have to send an email | 17:10 |
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kzaitsev_mb | let's add a AI for it, won't we? | 17:10 |
sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: sure :) | 17:10 |
kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql | 17:10 |
sergmelikyan | I thought you've decided to postpone it | 17:10 |
sergmelikyan | #topic Migrating to YAQL 1.0 | 17:11 |
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kzaitsev_mb | well if everything is nearly ready — we can move the discussion to ML | 17:11 |
sergmelikyan | I guess we had update from kzaitsev_mb, but my be Stan have something to add | 17:11 |
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kzaitsev_mb | i've just pinged Stan and he's en route somewhere, promised to be here later | 17:11 |
sergmelikyan | but I guess he is not here | 17:11 |
sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: thx | 17:12 |
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sergmelikyan | We also can skip topic about artifact repo because Alex is also not attendence todays | 17:13 |
kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: is not here either, so the 2d topic yeah =( | 17:13 |
sergmelikyan | #topic Stable jobs | 17:13 |
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sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: :) | 17:13 |
kzaitsev_mb | so yeah. my patch to infra has been merged | 17:14 |
kzaitsev_mb | and we now have stable jobs running periodically | 17:15 |
kzaitsev_mb | they run everyday (AFAIR the config) | 17:15 |
kzaitsev_mb | if they fail — they write a letter to #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-stable-maint | 17:15 |
sergmelikyan | I've already subscribed ;) | 17:16 |
kzaitsev_mb | so if you're interested in monitoring and helping out with stable branches — subscribe to the list. | 17:16 |
Daviey | \o/ | 17:17 |
kzaitsev_mb | Would probably require some filters, since all stuff write there (horizon, nova, etc.) | 17:17 |
kzaitsev_mb | I'll also write a letter to ML 'bout the jobs, so that folks, who're missing today would also know =) | 17:18 |
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sergmelikyan | Daviey: o/ | 17:18 |
kzaitsev_mb | that's all I really had to say about stable jobs =) | 17:18 |
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sergmelikyan | #action kzaitsev_mb write e-mail about stable jobs | 17:19 |
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kzaitsev_mb | slagun: hi! =) | 17:19 |
sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:19 |
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slagun | hi! | 17:19 |
slagun | sorry for being late | 17:19 |
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sergmelikyan | slagun: looks like kzaitsev_mb covered question about YAQL migration, anything to add? | 17:20 |
kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: slagun maybe we'll switch to YAQL before Open Discussion? =) | 17:20 |
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sergmelikyan | I hope we will finish migration during this week | 17:21 |
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slagun | new engine should be fully functional at the moment | 17:22 |
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slagun | It passes all unit tests and I managed to deploy complex k8s topology with it | 17:22 |
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slagun | though I need to fix pep8 | 17:24 |
sergmelikyan | slagun: I really liked unit-tests coverage | 17:24 |
sergmelikyan | on the commits with yaql | 17:24 |
kzaitsev_mb | so our next steps: would be release new yaql, notify mistral guys, test new engine, release yaql 1.0, merge all the things. Right? =) | 17:24 |
sergmelikyan | yup | 17:24 |
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slagun | yes. My suggestion to release yaql rc2 as soon as all yaql commits got merged and test with rc2. If there won't be any yaql issues then rc2 will became the release. Otherwise there will be rc3 | 17:25 |
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kzaitsev_mb | Nice. So we have to ping sergmelikyan and ativelkov to review yaql patches, cause I guess the're the ones with +2 on that repo ) | 17:26 |
sergmelikyan | I've already did that btw | 17:26 |
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slagun | Its a chain of 6 commits :) | 17:27 |
slagun | And I already have some code that is going to find its way into yaql 1.1 | 17:27 |
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kzaitsev_mb | oh boy =) | 17:28 |
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kzaitsev_mb | ok, so on an unrelated note: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208145/ this is the last commit, that would make our new js linting job green. | 17:28 |
kzaitsev_mb | thanks a lot to xiangxinyong for doing most of linting work =) | 17:28 |
xiangxinyong | kzaitsev_mb:you are welcome | 17:29 |
kzaitsev_mb | I have a question though — should we make it voting after we merge this one? | 17:29 |
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Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: if it works good - why not? | 17:30 |
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kzaitsev_mb | well, yeah guess a broken js job would result in a -1 from other reviewers anyway | 17:31 |
kzaitsev_mb | so, I guess I'll make a commit, that makes it voting as soon as the patch lands =) | 17:31 |
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kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: you wanted to say smth about the logs, right? | 17:32 |
Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: yeah, thanks for the notice | 17:32 |
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Nikolay_St | guys, as you may know we merged a logging spec for murano last week | 17:33 |
Nikolay_St | #link http://murano-specs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/specs/liberty/murano-log-guildelines.html | 17:33 |
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Nikolay_St | please try to follow it in the new commits and update patches on review close to it | 17:33 |
kzaitsev_mb | agree on that one ) | 17:34 |
Nikolay_St | I work on the existing code and will try to commit changes in 1-2 days | 17:34 |
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Nikolay_St | also, in the near future we might need to update it as soon as TRACE level is introduced in the newest oslo.log version | 17:35 |
slagun | I'm going to use trace for new engine method invocation logging as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208702/ gets merged | 17:36 |
Nikolay_St | so, that's all from my side. thx for attention) if you have any question about log you reach me on #murano :) | 17:36 |
Nikolay_St | slagun: nice | 17:36 |
Nikolay_St | I need to take a look at the major OpenStack logging spec to be sure how we should use trace in murano | 17:37 |
Nikolay_St | have no time yet :( | 17:37 |
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kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: requirements are already updated by the bot ) so we'll have 1.8 log library really soon ) | 17:38 |
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Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: I know) I just need some time to update the spec. I'll do it on Thursday, I suppose. after next log wg meeting | 17:40 |
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xiangxinyong | I have a question. Do we have mid cycle meeting? | 17:42 |
Nikolay_St | sergmelikyan: ^^ | 17:43 |
Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: ^^ | 17:43 |
sergmelikyan | xiangxinyong: no, this time we don't have midcycle summit but we can orginize call if needed | 17:43 |
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sergmelikyan | if you have topic to discuss, we can schedule video-conference call | 17:44 |
xiangxinyong | sergmelikyan: understood. Thanks | 17:44 |
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kzaitsev_mb | should we wrap up? =) | 17:45 |
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sergmelikyan | looks like so :) | 17:47 |
sergmelikyan | Any other topics to discuss folks? | 17:47 |
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Nikolay_St | nope | 17:48 |
sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:48 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 4 17:48:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:48 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-08-04-17.00.html | 17:48 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-08-04-17.00.txt | 17:48 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-08-04-17.00.log.html | 17:48 |
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Nikolay_St | bye! | 17:49 |
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xiangxinyong | bye | 17:49 |
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sputnik13 | #startmeeting cue | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 4 18:01:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sputnik13. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cue' | 18:01 |
sputnik13 | role call | 18:01 |
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davideagnello | here | 18:01 |
sputnik13 | o/ | 18:01 |
vipul | o/ | 18:01 |
dkalleg | o/ | 18:01 |
davideagnello | o/ | 18:01 |
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esmute_ | hey | 18:02 |
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abitha | hihi | 18:03 |
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sputnik13 | actions | 18:03 |
sputnik13 | #topic Action Items | 18:03 |
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sputnik13 | oh yay, they're all for me | 18:03 |
sputnik13 | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-21-18.01.html | 18:04 |
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sputnik13 | #info AI #1 sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka | 18:04 |
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sputnik13 | kicking that can a little further down the road | 18:04 |
sputnik13 | #action sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka | 18:04 |
sputnik13 | #info AI #2 sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1429304 | 18:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1429304 in Cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Steve Leon (steve-leon) | 18:05 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] | 18:05 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1429304 | 18:05 |
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sputnik13 | kicking this one down the road too... | 18:05 |
sputnik13 | #action sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1429304 | 18:05 |
sputnik13 | #info AI #3 sputnik13 to file a BP for user defined credentials for brokers | 18:05 |
esmute_ | sputnik13: i have to fix this bug :P | 18:06 |
sputnik13 | BP was filed | 18:06 |
sputnik13 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/custom-default-user | 18:06 |
vipul | esmute_: so it's indeed a bug? | 18:06 |
sputnik13 | esmute_: the action was for me to verify it... I was actually just going to talk to you :) | 18:06 |
vipul | how does the dashboard work | 18:06 |
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davideagnello | looks more like a feature of the api | 18:07 |
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esmute_ | the dashboard has the ability to send filter parameters | 18:08 |
sputnik13 | davideagnello it's a bug if the dashboard breaks | 18:08 |
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vipul | are we just hacking the dashbaord to remove those? | 18:08 |
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esmute_ | so when there is no filter, it sends an empty parameters.. and i think cue api doesnt handle that | 18:08 |
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vipul | esmute_: i think the main quesiton is if this is actually a bug breaking the dashboard today or not | 18:09 |
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esmute_ | it is not breaking the dashboard | 18:09 |
vipul | esmute_: if it's not breaking.. then the real fix is to implement pagination to our api | 18:09 |
sputnik13 | which is then a feature no longer a bug | 18:10 |
esmute_ | i need to see what i did to circumvent this issue | 18:10 |
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vipul | ok.. can you add that as a comment to the issue | 18:10 |
sputnik13 | so you're saying there is a fix right now | 18:10 |
sputnik13 | and things are not broken | 18:10 |
esmute_ | sputnik13: more like a subclass/override in horizon | 18:10 |
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sputnik13 | esmute_: however graceful or hacky the fix is, dashboard is not broken at this time? | 18:11 |
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esmute_ | but it is not the right way to do this... the right way is for cue api to handle these filters params, which are typically handled in all openstack api | 18:11 |
esmute_ | sputnik13: no.. dashboard is not broken | 18:11 |
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esmute_ | i found this bug when i was working on the dashboard a few months back | 18:12 |
vipul | yea we need a blueprint for adding pagination.. | 18:12 |
sputnik13 | ok, then this should be a feature for the api | 18:12 |
davideagnello | exactly | 18:12 |
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sputnik13 | I will reclasiffy it as wishlist... please add a blueprint and add a link to it in the bug | 18:13 |
esmute_ | it could be a bug because horizon assumes the api handles filter params | 18:13 |
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esmute_ | i am ok labelling a bug but a really low priority one | 18:13 |
esmute_ | at least for the case to handle these params from horizon | 18:13 |
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vipul | we have a workaround.. and it likely could be solved more completely by a feature | 18:14 |
sputnik13 | it's not a bug if there isn't a defect | 18:14 |
esmute_ | after looking at the code, the workaround im using is importing keystone client directly | 18:14 |
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esmute_ | and not use the provided client frameworok/library within horizon | 18:14 |
vipul | ok moving on? | 18:15 |
davideagnello | so a bug in our panel and feature in our api? | 18:15 |
esmute_ | oopps not keystoneclient... cueclient | 18:16 |
sputnik13 | it's not a bug in the panel, the panel works | 18:16 |
sputnik13 | yes let's move on, we're talking this to death | 18:16 |
sputnik13 | next on the agenda is discussion topics... | 18:16 |
esmute_ | the panel works because im using the client directly rather than the using the provided framework | 18:16 |
esmute_ | but year.. | 18:16 |
esmute_ | yeah.. | 18:16 |
sputnik13 | #topic Discussion Topics | 18:16 |
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sputnik13 | do we have any topics to discuss? | 18:17 |
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sputnik13 | we have 4 or 5 talks submitted specifically for Cue, anyone know when we find out the results? | 18:17 |
sputnik13 | seems like tallying the votes should be automatic, why don't they have result pretty much the same day? | 18:17 |
vipul | i'm sure it'll be a while | 18:18 |
vipul | like every other time | 18:18 |
sputnik13 | and like every other time people are probably wondering why it takes so long | 18:18 |
sputnik13 | meh... | 18:19 |
sputnik13 | no topics? | 18:19 |
sputnik13 | let's move on to bugs then | 18:19 |
sputnik13 | #info no topics this week | 18:19 |
esmute_ | dkalleg is working on changing the status check for rabbitmq | 18:19 |
esmute_ | dkalleg: do you want to talk a bit about it? | 18:20 |
dkalleg | Yup, I believe its working, just looking into an integration test failure. | 18:20 |
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sputnik13 | doh, how do you redact items from the log | 18:20 |
vipul | dkalleg: what user are we checking the status with | 18:20 |
vipul | didn't we talk about creating a monitoring user at some point | 18:20 |
esmute_ | dkalleg: do you have a bug associated to this work? | 18:21 |
sputnik13 | it's not a bug | 18:21 |
esmute_ | sputnik13: is there a BP then? | 18:21 |
esmute_ | i just want something with some information to understand the problem and the fix | 18:21 |
sputnik13 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status | 18:21 |
dkalleg | So while taskflow is creating a cluster, I've added a task that will use RMQs rest api to use its management plugin to run an aliveness test. | 18:22 |
sputnik13 | dkalleg: can you fill in some information in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status | 18:22 |
sputnik13 | and link your patch to that | 18:22 |
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sputnik13 | make sure it's a partial-implement | 18:22 |
davideagnello | we would need to add the periodic checks | 18:22 |
sputnik13 | since the BP is for ongoing status, a more accurate status for initial boot is related | 18:23 |
dkalleg | esmute_: its not a bug, the feature isn't ready yet | 18:23 |
sputnik13 | since we'd likely use the same checks except on a periodic basis | 18:23 |
davideagnello | yes | 18:23 |
vipul | yea we need to get better about filing BPs and actually filling them out :D | 18:23 |
sputnik13 | right we're doing the filing | 18:23 |
sputnik13 | not so much on the filling | 18:23 |
sputnik13 | it's a one letter difference how hard could it be?! ;) | 18:24 |
vipul | dkalleg: you got this? | 18:24 |
dkalleg | vipul: Yes | 18:24 |
sputnik13 | #action dkalleg to provide details in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status regarding more accurate rabbitmq status check | 18:25 |
sputnik13 | other topics? | 18:25 |
vipul | what's going on with Rally gate | 18:25 |
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sputnik13 | #topic Rally gate | 18:25 |
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sputnik13 | davideagnello? | 18:26 |
sputnik13 | err doh, that should have been info, meh whatever | 18:26 |
vipul | topic is correct | 18:26 |
davideagnello | yes, there is a patch in openstack infra that is currently out. it's failing a layout test. need to find out why my changes are causing this issue | 18:26 |
davideagnello | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201285/2 | 18:27 |
esmute_ | ill work with davideagnelloto to help him with this layout issue | 18:27 |
sputnik13 | vipul: too bad you can't do nested topics, we're in the "discussion topic" portion of the meeting, this is arguably a sub-topic :) | 18:27 |
davideagnello | ok, thanks esmute_ | 18:27 |
vipul | http://logs.openstack.org/85/201285/8/check/gate-project-config-layout/5dfef14/console.html#_2015-07-31_20_23_09_659 | 18:27 |
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vipul | it's probably because we use a job template.. and maybe need to name the job corectly in layout.yml | 18:28 |
vipul | esmute_: thanks.. | 18:28 |
vipul | davideagnello: esmute_ let's try to get this working asap | 18:28 |
vipul | it's been a while | 18:28 |
davideagnello | it is named correctly | 18:28 |
sputnik13 | why is it gate-rally-dsvm-cue-cue? | 18:28 |
sputnik13 | should be gate-rally-dsvm-{name} | 18:29 |
davideagnello | that's what the name in template, name is replaced with cue, like other services use the same pattern | 18:29 |
esmute_ | actually should be should be gate-rally-dsvm-cue-{name} | 18:29 |
esmute_ | name=<broker> | 18:29 |
esmute_ | so we can run this job with different broker in the future | 18:30 |
vipul | hmm.. in layout.yml you don't parameterize things | 18:30 |
sputnik13 | that seems silly to have cue-cue | 18:30 |
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vipul | then the job template needs to change | 18:30 |
esmute_ | davideagnello: look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180774/ | 18:31 |
sputnik13 | cue-<broker> makes sense | 18:31 |
esmute_ | this is how i configured it for the tempest test | 18:31 |
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vipul | esmute_: i agree with that.. | 18:31 |
vipul | we may need to rename our scenarios then | 18:32 |
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vipul | if we want to use the {name} for the scenario file too | 18:32 |
davideagnello | our scenario test file, which conforms to the rest of the services naming is service-rally.yaml | 18:32 |
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esmute_ | looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180774/3/zuul/layout.yaml,cm, im appending the broker name in the job | 18:32 |
vipul | davideagnello: couldn't we have rabbitmq-scenarios.yml? | 18:32 |
vipul | so that we can have kafka-scenarios.yaml in the future? | 18:33 |
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davideagnello | we can | 18:33 |
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vipul | esmute_, davideagnello: can you guys sync up and fix this..? | 18:34 |
davideagnello | yes | 18:34 |
esmute_ | yep | 18:34 |
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sputnik13 | #action davideagnello and esmute_ to resolve issues with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201285 | 18:35 |
sputnik13 | other topics? | 18:35 |
sputnik13 | bugs? | 18:36 |
vipul | python3? | 18:36 |
vipul | anyone want to take a stab at getting things working with python3? | 18:36 |
davideagnello | what working? | 18:36 |
davideagnello | cue? | 18:36 |
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vipul | cue.. tests.. | 18:36 |
sputnik13 | is that a trick question? :) | 18:36 |
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sputnik13 | "want" :) | 18:37 |
vipul | everyone's doing it ;) | 18:37 |
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vipul | think of it as a side pet-project ;) | 18:37 |
sputnik13 | the silence is deafening | 18:37 |
esmute_ | haha | 18:37 |
vipul | next person to say something takes it | 18:38 |
esmute_ | vipul: is openstack pushing this on us? | 18:38 |
esmute_ | crap | 18:38 |
vipul | esmute_: it is! | 18:38 |
sputnik13 | can we add python 3 as a tox env and make it none-voting? | 18:38 |
sputnik13 | esmute_ just volunteered didn't he | 18:38 |
vipul | esmute_: openstack is going this way.. | 18:38 |
vipul | he did | 18:38 |
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esmute_ | haha ok | 18:39 |
sputnik13 | esmute_ you rock | 18:39 |
sputnik13 | :) | 18:39 |
sputnik13 | we should just add python 3 as a tox environment and make it non-voting (if that's possible) | 18:39 |
vipul | esmute_: not critical path.. it might be as simple as adding a new tox env | 18:39 |
vipul | sputnik13: yep | 18:39 |
sputnik13 | then the gate jobs will just tell us if/when it's broken | 18:39 |
sputnik13 | and we can fix things as we go | 18:39 |
esmute_ | yeah.. probably going start there | 18:39 |
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vipul | it's possible the python-jobs job template already makes py3 non-voting/ | 18:40 |
vipul | not sure | 18:40 |
sputnik13 | #topic python3 | 18:40 |
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sputnik13 | #action esmute_ to add a non-voting python3 check to CI | 18:40 |
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sputnik13 | other topics | 18:41 |
sputnik13 | ? | 18:41 |
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vipul | esmute_: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L307 | 18:41 |
sputnik13 | I'd say Kafka but someone keeps slipping on that action :) | 18:41 |
esmute_ | ok | 18:42 |
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vipul | esmute_: lots of projects already gating on it | 18:42 |
vipul | so just look at waht they did | 18:42 |
sputnik13 | all of oslo is doing it, but it's voting in oslo | 18:43 |
sputnik13 | moving on to bugs then? | 18:43 |
vipul | if we get it working.. i don't mind making it voting | 18:43 |
vipul | not reason not to | 18:43 |
sputnik13 | right, once we get it working | 18:43 |
esmute_ | yeah. | 18:43 |
esmute_ | i wont check it in until it works anyways | 18:43 |
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vipul | ok sounds like we have a plan | 18:44 |
sputnik13 | we should just add it and make it non-voting until it works | 18:44 |
sputnik13 | we shouldn't have a single outstanding patch that tries to make everything work | 18:44 |
sputnik13 | it'll get stuck in rebase hell | 18:44 |
sputnik13 | well, maybe | 18:45 |
sputnik13 | :) | 18:45 |
vipul | maybe add a patch to the experimental pipeline now.. | 18:45 |
sputnik13 | the what pipeline? | 18:45 |
vipul | and when you submit your patch.. you can check it | 18:45 |
esmute_ | ok | 18:45 |
esmute_ | that is good too | 18:46 |
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sputnik13 | ok, you mean add the python 3 check to the experimental pipeline so that it runs with every subsequent patch to cue, yes? | 18:46 |
vipul | right.. sputnik13 | 18:46 |
vipul | i didn't say that well | 18:46 |
sputnik13 | ok, good plan, let's move on to bugs, we have 14 minutes left | 18:46 |
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sputnik13 | #topic Bugs | 18:46 |
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sputnik13 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&field.importance%3Alist=MEDIUM&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator | 18:47 |
sputnik13 | =ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 18:47 |
sputnik13 | wow, big link :) | 18:47 |
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sputnik13 | http://bit.ly/1MChDwJ | 18:47 |
sputnik13 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1438939 | 18:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] | 18:48 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] | 18:48 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438939 | 18:48 |
vipul | agree with showing as much as possilbe on a list | 18:48 |
sputnik13 | that's annoying, why is uvirbot doing the same thing as openstack | 18:48 |
vipul | network_id maybe not | 18:48 |
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sputnik13 | agree on the enhancements, but this is not a bug | 18:49 |
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sputnik13 | reclassify to wishlist, and add blueprint? | 18:49 |
vipul | wishlist is fine.. i would say high priority | 18:49 |
vipul | it's kind of a usability issue right now | 18:50 |
sputnik13 | wishlist is a "priority" | 18:50 |
vipul | ugh | 18:50 |
sputnik13 | :) | 18:50 |
davideagnello | I have resolved a cluster delete bug over a month ago, it's still in review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196332/) should we drop it or are we looking to merge this work? | 18:50 |
sputnik13 | it is what it is... I don't feel like submitting enhancements to launchpad ;) | 18:50 |
vipul | ok.. wishlist and file a BP.. | 18:51 |
sputnik13 | davideagnello can you turn that in to a BP and link the bug? | 18:51 |
sputnik13 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1438939 | 18:51 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] | 18:51 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Wishlist,New] | 18:51 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438939 | 18:51 |
vipul | davideagnello: sounds like we are looking to merge it.. it was rebased recently | 18:51 |
davideagnello | ok | 18:51 |
sputnik13 | yes I think I rebased it during the liberty 2 day | 18:52 |
davideagnello | sputnik13: turn bug into BP? | 18:52 |
sputnik13 | yes, it's not a bug | 18:52 |
davideagnello | it is a bug | 18:52 |
vipul | are we talking about the same bug? | 18:52 |
sputnik13 | we're talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1438939 | 18:52 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Wishlist,New] | 18:52 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] | 18:52 |
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uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438939 | 18:52 |
davideagnello | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1469823 | 18:52 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1469823 in Cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Davide Agnello (dagnello) | 18:52 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1469823 in cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,Confirmed] | 18:52 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1469823 in cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1469823 | 18:52 |
sputnik13 | davideagnello please stay with one bug at a time | 18:53 |
vipul | sputnik13's link shoudl be a BP.. | 18:53 |
vipul | your link is a bug | 18:53 |
davideagnello | ok | 18:53 |
abitha | why is it a BP and not a bug? | 18:54 |
vipul | abitha: it's kind of a feature.. because we want to expose more in our CLI | 18:54 |
sputnik13 | abitha it's not a defect, a poor design choice is not a defect | 18:54 |
sputnik13 | :) | 18:54 |
sputnik13 | nothing is "broken", although I guess UX might argue the experience is broken | 18:54 |
sputnik13 | :) | 18:54 |
abitha | so lot of bugs classified as wishlist seems to be features then. | 18:55 |
abitha | so should we create BPs for those? | 18:55 |
vipul | yea that's what wishlist is for.. | 18:55 |
vipul | create BPs.. and start pushing fixes for those BPs | 18:55 |
sputnik13 | right, anything we make wishlist is a feature, priority of the feature needs to be considered separately from priority of defects | 18:55 |
abitha | oh ok | 18:56 |
sputnik13 | #action davideagnello to file a BP for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1438939 | 18:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1438939 in Cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Wishlist,New] | 18:56 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] | 18:56 |
vipul | if it's low-hanging fruit.. just fix it and push it up | 18:56 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1438939 in cue "Cue CLI cluster list fields should show cluster size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438939 | 18:56 |
sputnik13 | right, as long as it actually takes only a little time | 18:56 |
sputnik13 | ok, next bug | 18:56 |
sputnik13 | we have 4 minutes | 18:56 |
vipul | we need to start looking at these during planning | 18:56 |
sputnik13 | vipul agreed | 18:57 |
sputnik13 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1444140 | 18:57 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1444140 in Cue "Add unit/function tests for DB Mixin classes" [Medium,New] | 18:57 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1444140 in cue "Add unit/function tests for DB Mixin classes" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444140 | 18:57 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1444140 in cue "Add unit/function tests for DB Mixin classes" [Medium,New] | 18:57 |
davideagnello | we should | 18:57 |
sputnik13 | this one is also not a bug | 18:57 |
sputnik13 | changing to wishlist | 18:57 |
esmute_ | why not use cue-show for these extra info? | 18:57 |
vipul | wait.. missing tests is a bug | 18:57 |
sputnik13 | is it? | 18:58 |
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vipul | this is python ;) | 18:58 |
vipul | if there is no test for it.. it doesn't work | 18:58 |
sputnik13 | meh | 18:58 |
vipul | if it aint tested.. it's broken | 18:58 |
sputnik13 | fine I will concede that point | 18:59 |
vipul | esmute_: that's the workaround.. but it would be nice to have more info in the cue-list call | 18:59 |
sputnik13 | however, the product is not broken | 18:59 |
davideagnello | about 10% cue is broken then | 18:59 |
sputnik13 | so it's low priority | 18:59 |
vipul | davideagnello: yep.. that is correct :D | 18:59 |
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sputnik13 | if cue does not use the 10% of code that is "broken" then the product isn't broken | 18:59 |
vipul | if it's indirectly tested.. then we cna discuss it | 18:59 |
esmute_ | just 105? | 18:59 |
esmute_ | 10%? | 18:59 |
sputnik13 | esmute_ we have 90% coverage | 19:00 |
vipul | coverage is one thing.. | 19:00 |
vipul | not all the tests we run report coverage | 19:00 |
esmute_ | so generous | 19:00 |
vipul | tempest and rally are the examples | 19:00 |
sputnik13 | ok we're out of time | 19:00 |
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vipul | the only coverage report we get is via unit tests | 19:00 |
sputnik13 | vipul: while true I think the tempest tests we have are actually covered by our unit/functional tests | 19:00 |
sputnik13 | reclassify this to low, agreed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1460208 | 19:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1460208 in Cue "cue-manage broker add command does not return new broker id" [Medium,New] | 19:01 |
vipul | yep | 19:01 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1460208 in cue "cue-manage broker add command does not return new broker id" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1460208 | 19:01 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1460208 in cue "cue-manage broker add command does not return new broker id" [Medium,New] | 19:01 |
sputnik13 | there's no functional/observable failure in the product itself | 19:01 |
vipul | let's move to #openstack-cue | 19:01 |
sputnik13 | ok | 19:01 |
sputnik13 | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 4 19:01:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-08-04-18.01.html | 19:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-08-04-18.01.txt | 19:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-08-04-18.01.log.html | 19:01 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 4 21:01:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:01 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-08-04_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:01 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:01 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:01 |
gpilz | Gilbert Pilz | 21:02 |
devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 21:02 |
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adrian_otto | hello gpilz, and devkulkarni | 21:03 |
devkulkarni | hi adrian_otto | 21:03 |
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gpilz | hello | 21:03 |
dimtruck | ./ | 21:03 |
adrian_otto | hello dimtruck | 21:03 |
james_li_ | james li | 21:03 |
dimtruck | good afternoon! | 21:03 |
adrian_otto | hello james_li_ | 21:03 |
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james_li_ | hello adrian_otto | 21:03 |
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datsun180b | Ed Cranford | 21:04 |
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adrian_otto | hello datsun180b | 21:04 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:04 |
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adrian_otto | none prepared. Any announcements form team members? | 21:05 |
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adrian_otto | s/form/from/ | 21:05 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:05 |
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adrian_otto | (none) | 21:05 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review and Discussion | 21:06 |
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adrian_otto | (devkulkarni) Update on namespace migration -- Patch is approved (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201287/). Will be merged at next gerrit downtime. | 21:06 |
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devkulkarni | so update on this action item | 21:06 |
devkulkarni | pretty much summarized above | 21:06 |
devkulkarni | the patch has been approved | 21:07 |
james_li_ | nice | 21:07 |
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devkulkarni | but the actual migration from stackforge to openstack | 21:07 |
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devkulkarni | will happen whenever there is next scheduled gerrit downtime | 21:07 |
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devkulkarni | there are apparently a few manual steps that need to be done before the patch is merged | 21:07 |
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devkulkarni | the infra team takes care of that | 21:07 |
devkulkarni | from our side, there is nothing more to be done | 21:07 |
devkulkarni | we just wait now | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | that is all on this topic | 21:08 |
datsun180b | that's great news | 21:08 |
adrian_otto | (devkulkarni) Update on Vagrant setup -- Was failing due to issues in nova-docker. Is working now. Vagrant env pinned for now. | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | ok, so on this topic.. | 21:08 |
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adrian_otto | thanks for the namespace work devkulkarni | 21:08 |
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devkulkarni | my pleasure adrian_otto datsun180b | 21:09 |
devkulkarni | so on vagrant.. | 21:09 |
devkulkarni | from last couple of weeks our vagrant environment had been failing | 21:09 |
adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/207588 Fixing issues being encountered in devstack run | 21:09 |
devkulkarni | turns out that there are at least 6 things that need to be fixed in nova-docker | 21:09 |
devkulkarni | I have submitted a patch which adrian_otto has linked above | 21:09 |
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devkulkarni | please take a moment to review it whenever you get a chance | 21:10 |
devkulkarni | in the mean while | 21:10 |
devkulkarni | I have changed our Vagrantfile in solum-vagrant to pin to my fork of nova-docker | 21:10 |
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datsun180b | glad you could distill it into those few pain points | 21:10 |
devkulkarni | datsun180b helped merge that patch | 21:10 |
devkulkarni | thanks for that datsun180b | 21:10 |
adrian_otto | this might be a good time to think about Magnum as a replacement | 21:10 |
adrian_otto | nova-docker is not being actively maintained | 21:11 |
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datsun180b | interesting | 21:11 |
devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yeah, i remember seeing some emails on the dev list | 21:11 |
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devkulkarni | I thought that dims and ewindisch were still going to help move it along | 21:11 |
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devkulkarni | adrian_otto: could you help us chalk up a plan of how magnum can be used instead of nova-docker? | 21:12 |
adrian_otto | both dims and ewindisch have other priorities now | 21:12 |
adrian_otto | sure, I can outline that | 21:13 |
devkulkarni | hmm.. I see. | 21:13 |
adrian_otto | this probably makes sense as a blueprint or spec, or both | 21:13 |
devkulkarni | agreed | 21:13 |
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devkulkarni | for now, we can continue using our vagrant environment | 21:13 |
adrian_otto | but essentially we would adjust the heat template to use a Magnum resource rather than the current OS::Server resource | 21:13 |
devkulkarni | ah I see | 21:14 |
devkulkarni | makes sense | 21:14 |
adrian_otto | create a bay, and then put containers on that bay. | 21:14 |
devkulkarni | and the bay creation is handled by heat as well? | 21:14 |
devkulkarni | or the bay has to be created before (out-of-band) | 21:14 |
adrian_otto | Magnum already has scalable bays, so this could also be used for apps that want to run with a scaled app tier. | 21:14 |
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adrian_otto | yes, when you create a bay, Magnum uses Heat to create the nova instances needed for that | 21:15 |
devkulkarni | interesting | 21:15 |
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adrian_otto | co conceptually you have this "bay" which acts like a scalable "server" | 21:15 |
adrian_otto | that you can put containers on. If you use the Swarm bay type, then it has a Docker API | 21:16 |
devkulkarni | so the magnum resource in heat is for bay creation + container placement | 21:16 |
adrian_otto | bays are composed of 1 or more nova instances | 21:16 |
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adrian_otto | and that number can be scaled on the fy | 21:17 |
adrian_otto | *fly | 21:17 |
devkulkarni | interesting | 21:17 |
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devkulkarni | I need to read up on the magnum resource in heat. any good pointers that you can suggest for this adrian_otto? | 21:17 |
adrian_otto | good question. Let me ask. | 21:18 |
adrian_otto | that should be in our docs, but it's not there yet. | 21:18 |
devkulkarni | muraliaa you should propose solum-magnum integration spec ;) | 21:19 |
dimtruck | :) +1 | 21:19 |
devkulkarni | s/muraliaa/muralia1/ | 21:19 |
adrian_otto | +1 | 21:19 |
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adrian_otto | muralia1: I'm happy to help you with that | 21:19 |
dimtruck | looking at that project, it's the next logical step for us | 21:19 |
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dimtruck | seems like his internet gave out | 21:20 |
devkulkarni | dimtruck: how much of understanding/insights you have gotten into magnum? | 21:20 |
dimtruck | just initial foray | 21:20 |
dimtruck | probably < 1 week of actually looking at code | 21:20 |
dimtruck | but everything around it looks like a logical progression of solum -> heat -> magnum | 21:20 |
dimtruck | imo | 21:21 |
devkulkarni | so yest. you were mentioning that the work that james_li did for securing our worker could potentially be done by magnum | 21:21 |
dimtruck | yup! | 21:21 |
devkulkarni | if that is the case then the picture is little different (and a bit convoluted imo) | 21:21 |
dimtruck | plus scaling | 21:21 |
devkulkarni | the picture that emerges is | 21:21 |
dimtruck | plus linking | 21:21 |
dimtruck | we won't have to worry about any of that i don't think | 21:22 |
devkulkarni | solum -> magnum (to build the DU) -> solum -> heat -> magnum | 21:22 |
devkulkarni | see if it is only the deployment which we offload to magnum | 21:22 |
dimtruck | well, you wouldn't have magnum build the du imo | 21:22 |
devkulkarni | right | 21:22 |
dimtruck | you'd still build everything and just offload deployment | 21:22 |
dimtruck | right, that's what you said | 21:22 |
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devkulkarni | in that case I don't agree with your point of yest. that the work that james_li has done in making our DU builds robust and secure would not be required | 21:23 |
devkulkarni | we will still need that | 21:23 |
devkulkarni | dimtruck: ok, I think we are on the same page | 21:23 |
dimtruck | ahhh, yes - in CI his work is still important | 21:24 |
dimtruck | the CD part can be offloaded | 21:24 |
dimtruck | good catch | 21:24 |
devkulkarni | dimtruck, muralia1: it will be awesome to have that spec/blueprint with the help of adrian_otto | 21:24 |
dimtruck | ok, we can chat with him after the meeting | 21:25 |
devkulkarni | cool | 21:25 |
dimtruck | since muralia1 is internet-less | 21:25 |
devkulkarni | :) | 21:26 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:26 |
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devkulkarni | have update about our gates | 21:26 |
dimtruck | i submitted a rebased patch for operator | 21:27 |
dimtruck | you go first devkulkarni | 21:27 |
devkulkarni | dimtruck: awesome! | 21:27 |
devkulkarni | ok | 21:27 |
devkulkarni | so our gates were failing because of changes in barbican | 21:27 |
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devkulkarni | they changed the name of their configuration file | 21:27 |
devkulkarni | the fix was to change our devstack/lib/solum | 21:27 |
devkulkarni | the fix has been merged thanks to datsun180b and muralia1 | 21:28 |
devkulkarni | so gates are clear now | 21:28 |
devkulkarni | dimtruck: you can go | 21:28 |
datsun180b | i spoke briefly with john v and barbican should still parse the old file if need be, but our problems were in expecting the old file during our own devstack scripts | 21:28 |
dimtruck | cool! | 21:28 |
devkulkarni | datsun180b: oh ! | 21:28 |
devkulkarni | actually there is one more thing on this | 21:29 |
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datsun180b | so the problem wasn't immediately with barbican, but just how we were using it. their methods changed and we didn't keep up | 21:29 |
devkulkarni | so in our devstack setup there was some special code that we had for starting and stopping barbican. it was put in place by ravips when he was working on that stuff. | 21:29 |
adrian_otto | interesting | 21:30 |
devkulkarni | so that code needs to be checked for (a) whether we need it or not anymore (b) if we do need it if it is correct or not | 21:30 |
devkulkarni | that piece of code was also causing our gates to fail | 21:30 |
datsun180b | dollars to donuts we can trust the standard stop and start mechanism by now | 21:30 |
devkulkarni | after the configuration file name was fixed | 21:30 |
devkulkarni | so for the time being I have commented that code as we are not using barbican. I have created a bug to track this issue | 21:31 |
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devkulkarni | datsun180b: fair enough | 21:31 |
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devkulkarni | we need to verify that | 21:32 |
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devkulkarni | I wanted to unblock our gate so have not checked it | 21:32 |
devkulkarni | dimtruck: now you can go :) | 21:32 |
dimtruck | so i uploaded patch 3 of operator guide. Please review and let me know your thoughts :) | 21:32 |
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devkulkarni | dimtruck: will do | 21:33 |
adrian_otto | whooot! | 21:33 |
dimtruck | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204312/ | 21:33 |
devkulkarni | has gerrit given you a +1 yet? | 21:33 |
dimtruck | nope :) | 21:33 |
adrian_otto | devkulkarni: not yet | 21:33 |
devkulkarni | thanks for putting this together dimtruck | 21:33 |
devkulkarni | what tool did you use to create that architecture diagram? | 21:33 |
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dimtruck | i'm queued up | 21:33 |
dimtruck | gliffy | 21:33 |
devkulkarni | looks clean | 21:33 |
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dimtruck | it's cool because you can export/import json files | 21:34 |
dimtruck | and it supports open source projects | 21:34 |
devkulkarni | what do you mean? | 21:34 |
dimtruck | i mean it's ok to use for open source projects without buying a license | 21:34 |
devkulkarni | images are created/saved as json? | 21:34 |
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dimtruck | oh, you can save the image as json | 21:34 |
dimtruck | and then upload it to gliffy and it renders the json | 21:34 |
dimtruck | so it can be versioned really well as json | 21:35 |
devkulkarni | wow! should be very useful | 21:35 |
dimtruck | in fact, i should have probably uploaded the json to our guide now that i think about it | 21:35 |
dimtruck | ugh | 21:35 |
devkulkarni | yeah, that will be helpful | 21:35 |
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devkulkarni | adrian_otto: I guess we are done for today. You can end the meeting. | 21:38 |
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datsun180b | agreed | 21:38 |
dimtruck | p.s. i just pushed the json file | 21:38 |
devkulkarni | saw that | 21:39 |
dimtruck | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204312/4/doc/source/configure_and_run/solum_architecture.gliffy | 21:39 |
devkulkarni | yeah..very interesting | 21:39 |
devkulkarni | reminds me of the postscript language | 21:39 |
datsun180b | oh geez | 21:40 |
datsun180b | python -mjson.tool that willya | 21:40 |
datsun180b | did they just make an svg<->json mapping or what | 21:40 |
devkulkarni | looks like.. | 21:40 |
devkulkarni | datsun180b weren't you working on something similar in your spare time? | 21:41 |
datsun180b | well i learned to just write svgs anyway | 21:41 |
datsun180b | and animate them with js, since they're xml they have a DOM that can be navigated and manipulated | 21:41 |
devkulkarni | interesting. yeah, if its a DOM it can be manipulated via js | 21:42 |
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adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 4 22:00:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-08-04-21.01.html | 22:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-08-04-21.01.txt | 22:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-08-04-21.01.log.html | 22:00 |
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