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| n0ano | #startmeeting nova-scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 10 14:00:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| lxsli | o/ | 14:00 |
| n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | actually, I'm here after all | 14:01 |
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| * johnthetubaguy kinda lurking | 14:02 | |
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| n0ano | edleafe, cool - so `house leveling', what, it's on a 45 degree angle suddenly :-) | 14:02 |
| edleafe | n0ano: nah, some of the support piers have settled a few inches. You get seasick walking from room to room. :) | 14:03 |
| edleafe | But they were going to be there all day, and didn't seem like I could help, so I left | 14:03 |
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| n0ano | ich, out here we have `expansive soil', I have friends that have 2 inch cracks that appear down the side of their house | 14:03 |
| lxsli | They said you couldn't build a castle in a swamp | 14:05 |
| * alex_xu actually around here also | 14:05 | |
| edleafe | n0ano: well, we just closed the purchase on Friday, and want to get this stuff done before we start anything else | 14:05 |
| lxsli | Congratulations :) | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | morning fellers. | 14:05 |
| lxsli | datetime.informal() to you too | 14:06 |
| n0ano | OK, looks like we have quorum (except for the europeans still on vacation) so... | 14:06 |
| n0ano | #topic liberty patches | 14:06 |
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| n0ano | the biggest items are jaypipes & bauzas series, hows your's going jaypipes | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: ran into a bunch of annoyances with the PCI handling code and so pushed a patch series to begin refactoring it: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:pci-cleanup,n,z | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: reviews welcome. | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: I plan to rebase resource objects patch series on top of that. | 14:08 |
| n0ano | I heard rumblings about PCI issues, sorry you hit that | 14:08 |
| n0ano | ick, does the rebase look hard? | 14:08 |
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| * n0ano seems to be a lot of rebasing going on | 14:09 | |
| * edleafe prefers that to freebasing | 14:09 | |
| jaypipes | n0ano: no, just a lot of object version changes. | 14:09 |
| n0ano | OK, sounds like it's under control, bottom line is do our reviews | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | yes. | 14:10 |
| n0ano | anything else on patches? | 14:10 |
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| jaypipes | not from me | 14:11 |
| n0ano | moving on then... | 14:11 |
| n0ano | #topic CPU feature representation | 14:12 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: just responded to Michal's thread. | 14:12 |
| n0ano | I started the thread, got a little response but nothing major yet | 14:12 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, I just saw that, need to take time to think about it and the message from Tony about power | 14:12 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: well, the message from tony was really just mentioning the difference between intel and power "discovery" of cpu caps. | 14:13 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: bottom line for me on this is that we need to move forward with separating the resource stuff from the capabilities stuff. | 14:14 |
| n0ano | I think some people think we're trying to create a common set of capabilities, which is not what I am thinking of... | 14:14 |
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| n0ano | a common representation but the specific features would indeed be different between architectures | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: with the resources stuff being all the quantitative things and the capabilities stuff being all the qualitative things | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: the fact that we jam all that stuff together into a flavor right now is making our lives much harder than it needs to be. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: +1 million | 14:15 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, my favorite, how does NUMA topology fit in, since it has quantitateive issues also but is rather static | 14:15 |
| jaypipes | no, it's not static at all. it's a quantitative measure. | 14:16 |
| lxsli | It's possible to hotplug CPUs in some archs I think | 14:16 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, `rather` static, it doesn't change without hot plugging something | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | let's not overthink this... | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | NUMA topology is a request for a specific set of NUMA resources, nothing more. | 14:17 |
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| jaypipes | it just happens to have a multi-dimensional set of constraints on those resources, unlike a single-dimensional integer-based constraint like amount of RAM. | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | but at the end of the day, it's just a quantity requested of some resource. | 14:18 |
| n0ano | in the same way cpu feature request is a request for a specific set of cpu capabilities | 14:18 |
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| jaypipes | no, it's the opposite of that... | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: there is no quantity/amount in the request fo capabilities/faetures. | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: which is what makes it different from resources. | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | you don't ask for "5 sse features" | 14:20 |
| n0ano | hmm, maybe I'm thinking wrong, resources are consumable but capabilities are just there | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | right. | 14:20 |
| alex_xu | so we need common api for capabilities stuff? | 14:21 |
| n0ano | sorry, had to strap my wife into here torture device, I'm back now | 14:23 |
| jaypipes | we need an API for mapping "product service levels" (I think that's what n0ano called them in Rochester?) to a set of host capabilities | 14:23 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: can some form of aggregates be used for that? | 14:24 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, that's what we've been doing with flavor extra_specs for now, a separate API would be good | 14:24 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, I'd have to think about that, I don't know off the top of my head if aggregates fits | 14:25 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: so, they already are... host capabilities are stored in aggregate extra_specs. The problem is there is no user-facing API that would allow them to see "fast crypto" as a capability instead of "sse, mmx, blah blah" | 14:25 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: ah, ok. I didn't understand that it was the user-facing stuff that's the issue | 14:26 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: yeah. | 14:26 |
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| edleafe | so we'd need to add a way to specify each of these generic things, and add logic in the filter to correlate them to the specific host capabilities? | 14:28 |
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| n0ano | the logic is already there (to deal with the exta_specs), just redefine that in terms of the new api | 14:29 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: there is logic to say "they asked for fast crypto, and this host has mmx, so it's ok"? | 14:30 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: welcome back! | 14:30 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, no, `they asked for mmx and this host has mmx, so it's OK' | 14:31 |
| edleafe | n0ano: but what jaypipes mentioned is the ability for users to ask for what they need, and have that apply to each hardware's naming of that feature | 14:32 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: or am I still understanding it wrong? | 14:32 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: no, edleafe is correct. the whole idea is to NOT have the cloud user asking for things like sse or mmx or Nehalem processors. We are trying to *abstract* hardware, not hard-code it into our APIs. | 14:33 |
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| n0ano | I think defining a common feature name that works across all architectures is not going to be possible | 14:33 |
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| n0ano | I think of it as abstracting the capability, so a Intel uses asks for MMX and a power user asks for foobar, the user still has to know about the underlying architecture if the user wants specific things | 14:34 |
| edleafe | n0ano: but what about "cloud" users? They shouldn't have to know jack about what the underlying arch is | 14:35 |
| n0ano | the user is already supplying a different image for Intel vs. Power so they already have to know about different architectrures | 14:35 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, note my last comment | 14:36 |
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| n0ano | which would argue that the capability requirements should be stored in the glance meta-data, not in the flavor | 14:38 |
| alex_xu | and who define "fast crypto"? The operator? maybe some operator call it as "quick crypto". That means different openstack cloud have different definition for same capcabilites. | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: there are a number of problems with that (see my response to michal) | 14:39 |
| lxsli | can we work out a base capability such that users who do know the underlying arch can address specific features, then build an abstraction on top of that? | 14:39 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, indeed, I didn't say that was the definitive arguement, I see problems with using glace also, but there is an arguement for it | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: yes, the operator determines what their service classes map to, capability wise. and yes, each deployment's service levels would be different. | 14:40 |
| lxsli | This has the advantage of not boiling the ocean | 14:40 |
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| lxsli | *not trying to | 14:40 |
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| alex_xu | jaypipes: so image creator can't ensure his image can be used for any opensack cloud...is that ok? | 14:41 |
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| n0ano | lxsli, an abstraction on top of specifics is fine, trying to create a common abstraction across all architectures - not sure that's possible or needed | 14:41 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu, n0ano: I am trying to think of an API that doesn't become one big advertisement for Intel-specific stuff. | 14:41 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, +1 | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | up until now, we've been able to keep vendor-specific things from leaking out of the API. | 14:42 |
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| jaypipes | I'd like to continue to do that. | 14:42 |
| lxsli | n0ano: it sounds useful but not easy to create; so I'm suggesting to worry about that later and make a generic baseline possibility first | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | so that we don't become "the Intel Nova API" | 14:42 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: suggestions welcome. | 14:42 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: yes, we didn't want that. | 14:42 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, no arguement, I think of host capabilities as arbitrary strings, different architectures provide different strings | 14:43 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: sure, the issue is what gets leaked out fo the API to the end user. | 14:43 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: so if users explicitly depend on an an Intel feature they've added that dependency themselves, we didn't impose it on them | 14:44 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: Amazon is fine being an Intel-only shop and advertising certain things like AES-NI or AVX2 capabilities, but we can't assume that HP Cloud is similar or RAX CLoud. | 14:44 |
| n0ano | lxsli, as long as they can also explicitly depend upon a Power feature also | 14:44 |
| lxsli | +1 | 14:45 |
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| n0ano | so, if I can summarize, we want... | 14:46 |
| jaypipes | So I think we can probably get the best of both worlds by allowing vendor-specific capabilities to be set on images (as they are now) and keeping the flavor stuff more generic. | 14:46 |
| n0ano | 1) arch specific features presented in a generic way | 14:46 |
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| n0ano | 2) explicit features for now | 14:46 |
| n0ano | 3) aggregated features later | 14:47 |
| n0ano | 4) not looking for common features across archs | 14:47 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: what do you mean by "explicit features for now"? | 14:47 |
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| n0ano | on intel as for AES, on power ask for foobar, sometime in the future maybe ask for `fast crypto' which includes AES | 14:48 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: that can already be done on the image metadata level, though. | 14:48 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: which I'm saying is fine... | 14:49 |
| n0ano | e.g. asking for AES would be an explicit features, asking for fast crypto would be an aggregate | 14:49 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: since, in theory, the creator of rthe image knows what is on the image and its dependencies on vebndor-specific stuff. | 14:49 |
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| n0ano | jaypipes, but we also need a way (currently with flavors) for the cloud provider to contol pricing tiers (since the image is provided by the user not the provider) | 14:50 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: /me thinks | 14:52 |
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| n0ano | jaypipes, indeed, hence the ML is a good place for this | 14:53 |
| n0ano | running out of time so | 14:53 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 14:53 |
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| n0ano | anything new for today? | 14:53 |
| lxsli | I could use a review of: https://review.openstack.org/211215 | 14:53 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: lol. | 14:53 |
| lxsli | It's not really scheduler specific but I need to understand this to do my patch | 14:54 |
| lxsli | oh shoot | 14:54 |
| lxsli | wrong link >.< | 14:54 |
| lxsli | I meant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210467 | 14:54 |
| lxsli | but yeah that too >.> | 14:54 |
| n0ano | lxsli, sorry only one chance, we'll only review the first link :-) | 14:54 |
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| lxsli | the first one is just me procrastinating | 14:54 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: will review that shortly. | 14:55 |
| lxsli | thanks | 14:55 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: are you a vim user? | 14:56 |
| lxsli | Oh yes | 14:56 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: any chance you can ggVGgq that? :) | 14:56 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: sure, I looked at some of the others and they used long lines, but I prefer short lines too :) | 14:57 |
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| lxsli | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/67/210467/1/check/gate-nova-docs/3a9e454//doc/build/html/trace.html is the formatted link | 14:57 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: cheers :) | 14:57 |
| n0ano | OK, I have to run to my next meeting so tnx everyone, talk again next week | 14:57 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 10 14:57:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-10-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-10-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-10-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #startmeeting oslo | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 10 16:01:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:01 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, haypo, | 16:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 16:01 |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:01 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:01 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | yo yo | 16:01 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'll be running the show for today, dims is somewhere else i think (midcycle?) | 16:01 |
| rpodolyaka1 | on pto, afair | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | ah | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | chilling on a beach then, i see | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic actions from last week | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | let's see here | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-03-16.00.html | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | so i guess the only action item was for dims, so i guess we can't resolve that one yet, ha | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | #action dims still has a TODO to organize a virtual doc sprint | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | there, now he has it again this week :-P | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | any other action items we should give him? | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:04 |
| johnsom | nicely done | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:04 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #action dims come back from PTO | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | ok, good enough :-P | 16:04 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:05 | |
| harlowja_at_home | any red flags, yellow flags, or other colored flags from folks? | 16:05 |
| bknudson | can't think of anything for keystone | 16:05 |
| johnsom | Nothing here. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | cinder -- Nothing here. | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | Getting close to having an improved genconfig setup, I think. :-) | 16:06 |
| bknudson | looks like there's still a couple debtcollector changes in progress that I could use in keystoneclient | 16:06 |
| ihrachyshka | nothing here | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, cool, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/debtcollector,n,z ones i suppose? | 16:07 |
| bknudson | harlowja_at_home: yep | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | someone should merge all those :-P | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anyways good good, nothing drastic breaking or anything :-P | 16:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic New libraries and drivers - how is it going? | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New libraries and drivers - how is it going? (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:09 | |
| harlowja_at_home | anything new to report here for new drivers/libraries? | 16:09 |
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| * harlowja_at_home has been looking over 'oslo.windows' if other people want to also | 16:09 | |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209193/ | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | that would probably be a 'new library' eventually | 16:10 |
| bknudson | I would avoid naming a library after a trademark. | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | hmmm, the 'windows' part? | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | good point | 16:10 |
| * harlowja_at_home didn't think about that | 16:10 | |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, can u put that on the review, its a good point that could/would probably come back and bite us in the end | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | *and/or bite somebody | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | other new library folks, feel free to update https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E (which dims is using to track progress) | 16:13 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E | 16:14 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing work & Review priorities (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:14 | |
| harlowja_at_home | any reviews/work/other that needs to be brought up so that people can look at it? | 16:15 |
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| * harlowja_at_home will avoid plugging myself, haha | 16:15 | |
| harlowja_at_home | if not, then people feel free to look over https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z (open specs) | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | a dashboard that i use also | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | #link https://tinyurl.com/njkre43 (useful for finding all the oslo reviews) | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Open discussion | 16:18 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anything else people want to raise, discuss, chit-chat about ? | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | if not, really short meeting, ha | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | speak now or forever hold your peace, lol | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | *crickets* | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | speak now crickets! | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:19 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ok, well i guess people are really busy reviewing all those review links and such | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | until next time then! :) | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | thanks to those that showed up! | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Later. | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | lata | 16:21 |
| bknudson | thanks | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | #endmeeting | 16:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 10 16:21:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-10-16.01.html | 16:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-10-16.01.txt | 16:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-10-16.01.log.html | 16:21 |
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| bana_k | for this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210644/ I need to rebase to another patch which has octavia driver | 17:42 |
| bana_k | which patch I need to rebase to ? | 17:42 |
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| catherineD|2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 10 19:01:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:01 |
| catherineD|2 | Roll call | 19:01 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD|2 | hello pvaneck: sslypushenko__: | 19:02 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD|2 hi! | 19:02 |
| pvaneck | hello | 19:02 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: I put https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192709 one the agenda under Open Discussion ... Let's get to it later ... if we run out of time we can discuss that on #refstack | 19:03 |
| sslypushenko__ | ok | 19:03 |
| catherineD|2 | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-08-10 | 19:03 |
| catherineD|2 | while waiting for others to join, we can discuss topic #3 first | 19:04 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic OpenStackID integration | 19:04 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: Current patches only work with Refstack UI and API server using same domain ... is that by design? | 19:05 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I think it is not | 19:05 |
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| catherineD|2 | I think both pvaneck: and I are OK with it .... | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko__ | My setup is one-domain | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | if we choose it this way we will need to change oaur README file | 19:06 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think we can fixed if is neccessary | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | yea 2 domain does not work .... | 19:06 |
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| pvaneck | some cors issues | 19:06 |
| sslypushenko__ | Lets stik to one-domain setup for now | 19:07 |
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| pvaneck | but it seems like we will be sticking with one domain | 19:07 |
| pvaneck | and i prefer the dingle domain | 19:07 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: either you fix it or we just update the README file ... I have no problem with either way | 19:07 |
| pvaneck | single* | 19:07 |
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| pvaneck | haha, easier to just update the readme | 19:07 |
| sslypushenko__ | +1) | 19:07 |
| catherineD|2 | let's vote then .. | 19:07 |
| pvaneck | we should have run-in-docker documentation, and the refstack-api in app-dev-mode method | 19:08 |
| sslypushenko__ | for sure | 19:08 |
| sslypushenko__ | I will add some docs | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | so yea, +1 on just the documentaiton updates | 19:08 |
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| sslypushenko__ | hope this week | 19:08 |
| catherineD|2 | #startvote Refstack will update to only support one domain for API and UI server. Vote yes|no | 19:09 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | #startvote Refstack will update to only support one domain for API and UI server | 19:09 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | I don't know how to do it | 19:09 |
| pvaneck | haha don't worry about it | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko__ | Lets stick on readme update and move on | 19:10 |
| pvaneck | seems like we are agreed | 19:10 |
| catherineD|2 | +1 to update README | 19:10 |
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| pvaneck | I can submit a patch for using refstack-api (i.e. pecan) for serving the website | 19:11 |
| catherineD|2 | #agreed Update Refstrack README to only support hosting API and UI server on one domain | 19:11 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: please do thanks | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko__ | and I will update docker doc | 19:12 |
| pvaneck | then we can get rid of the 'npm start' docs in refstack-ui | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | #action pvaneck: will submit a patch for using refstack-api for serving the website | 19:12 |
| pvaneck | leads to confusion | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | #action sslypushenko__: will update docker doc | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: what confusion? | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: got it | 19:13 |
| pvaneck | multidomain wont be supported | 19:13 |
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| catherineD|2 | #agreed multidomain won't be supported until further notice. | 19:13 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: all your patches for signed upload work for me ... do you see the comments I left on that patches? | 19:14 |
| sslypushenko__ | Yeap | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko__ | About "Profile" against user-name | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko__ | It is - by desing) | 19:15 |
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| sslypushenko__ | You can try last patch | 19:16 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: ic ... | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko__ | It is fully functional | 19:16 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: will do .... I can't wait until those patches merged .... they bring Refstack to a different level ... Thanks for all you hardwork ... | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko__ | I'm planning cover all new code in this patch and then remove WIP | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko__ | I hope i will finish this week | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD|2 Thx ) | 19:17 |
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| pvaneck | from when i pulled everything last week, it all worked fine :) | 19:18 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: that is great .... once we have those patches merged we can start the vendors registration use case ... | 19:18 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Sounds resonable | 19:19 |
| catherineD|2 | I really hope that our speaker session got accepted .... we do have a lot to cover on the session ... and hope to see all Refstack cores at the summit /// | 19:19 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Do you know something about vote results? | 19:19 |
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| catherineD|2 | not yet ... they will publish soon I think ... I hope Mirantis let you go ... | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think, voting was finished last | 19:20 |
| catherineD|2 | yes voting finished .. they need to calculate the results ... | 19:20 |
| catherineD|2 | anthing else on this topic ... | 19:21 |
| sslypushenko__ | If our talk is accepted, I think there was no problems here | 19:21 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: that is great ... | 19:22 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Refstack face-2-face meeting | 19:22 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Also I hope Foundation will continue work with Mirantis) | 19:22 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: is there an end date? | 19:22 |
| catherineD|2 | I hope it does not ... | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko__ | end of August | 19:22 |
| catherineD|2 | wow | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko__ | So I hope that Foundation and Mirantis come to new agreement on next half of the year | 19:23 |
| catherineD|2 | I hope they continue too ... | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko__ | ok, let move on | 19:24 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: I hope you think the Refstack work is meaningful ... | 19:25 |
| sslypushenko__ | For sure) | 19:25 |
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| catherineD|2 | #info Do we need a face-2-face to discuss the topics listed i nthe agenda? | 19:25 |
| catherineD|2 | #info 1) Non-tempest testing 2) DefCore use cases. 2.1) compare results. 2.2) Vendor registration | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think it would be good | 19:27 |
| catherineD|2 | it just mean that we decicate sometime to focust on that ... | 19:27 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: if you are joining us ... we need to find reasonable time for you ... | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | we may only need one day ... | 19:28 |
| pvaneck | tentative 9/2? | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: is 9/2 good for you? | 19:29 |
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| sslypushenko__ | just a sec | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think it will be ok | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | catherineD|2: how about the time ? give me the best time for you ... | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: that message is to you not to me :-) ... which 4 hours block is good for you? | 19:32 |
| catherineD|2 | also could both of you check your 9/3 schedule just in case ... | 19:32 |
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| pvaneck | im good whenever | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko__ | time calculations) just a sec | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko__ | I can be up till 21:00 UTC | 19:34 |
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| catherineD|2 | 21 UTC will be 2:oo PM PDT that is good ... | 19:35 |
| catherineD|2 | how about start time? | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko__ | so let it be from 10AM to 2PM PDT | 19:36 |
| catherineD|2 | that is great for us .... but it will be your dinner time :-( | 19:36 |
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| sslypushenko__ | after dinner time) but it is ok) | 19:36 |
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| pvaneck | so for now, schedule from 10am-2pm pdt, 9/2? | 19:37 |
| catherineD|2 | #info Refstack face-2-face meeting tentatively will be either 9/2 or 9/3 from 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM PDT (17:00 UTC - 21:00 UTC) | 19:37 |
| pvaneck | hopefully others can join | 19:37 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: I will check with David and Rocky on the date .. | 19:38 |
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| catherineD|2 | and Rob too | 19:38 |
| catherineD|2 | then we decide next week on whether it is 9/2 or 9/3 | 19:38 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think we will have some updates on non-tempest testing to that time | 19:39 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: great .. | 19:39 |
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| catherineD|2 | moving on ...to the related topic | 19:39 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic EC2 API JSON Entry for RefStack | 19:39 |
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| catherineD|2 | that is also non-tempest test ... based on a note send out by Rocky .. | 19:40 |
| catherineD|2 | Personally, I think this is a good topic for the face-2-face? What do you think? | 19:41 |
| sslypushenko__ | Right now we are working on tempest plugin for running swift test. I think we will get some experience with this | 19:41 |
| catherineD|2 | so let's defer this topic to face-2-face .. | 19:42 |
| sslypushenko__ | +1 | 19:42 |
| pvaneck | yep | 19:42 |
| notmyname | sslypushenko__: what is thise? | 19:42 |
| notmyname | running swift's tests via tempest plugins? | 19:42 |
| notmyname | sslypushenko__: ^ | 19:43 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Defcore team decide to include some in-tree swift tests in required list | 19:43 |
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| catherineD|2 | notmyname: background info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164865/ | 19:44 |
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| sslypushenko__ | So in refstack we need to run this tests some how | 19:44 |
| notmyname | sslypushenko__: right. if you're working on some things, please talk to hurricanerix who is working in swift on getting the swift tests using test-repository | 19:44 |
| notmyname | catherineD|2: yeah, that's my patch ;-) | 19:44 |
| sslypushenko__ | Oh! Great thx! | 19:45 |
| notmyname | anyway, I saw "swift" in IRC. I wanted to make sure I made the connection if other people are doing stuff too | 19:45 |
| catherineD|2 | notmyname: Hello sorry did not regconize your IRC name ... | 19:45 |
| notmyname | no worries :-) | 19:45 |
| sslypushenko__ | We need some assistance from swift team | 19:45 |
| notmyname | sslypushenko__: yeah, hurricanerix is woking on it in swift, and I'm happy to be a point of contact as the PTL | 19:46 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Great! | 19:46 |
| notmyname | please work with hurricanerix and let me know how I can help | 19:47 |
| sslypushenko__ | Will do | 19:47 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: yea notmyname: and mtreinish: should be informed/involved on this discussion .... | 19:47 |
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| sslypushenko__ | He is already informed | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | I have talk about plugins with him | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | It looks like plugins will be very helpful for Refstack in terms of runnig in-tree tests from other projects | 19:49 |
| catherineD|2 | #info sslypushenko__: and team will work with notmyname: and mtreinish: on plugins to bring non-tempest test to Refstack... | 19:49 |
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| catherineD|2 | #agreed defer EC2 API JSON Entry for RefStack to face-2-face meeting | 19:50 |
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| catherineD|2 | notmyname: thx a lot! | 19:51 |
| notmyname | happy to help :-) | 19:51 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Relocate RefStack Project | 19:51 |
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| catherineD|2 | #info waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205777/ which is under reviewed | 19:52 |
| catherineD|2 | #Infra hosting | 19:53 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic infra hosting | 19:53 |
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| catherineD|2 | Paul's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203764/ merged | 19:53 |
| catherineD|2 | Still have Jenkin issue with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ | 19:54 |
| pvaneck | the issue seems to stem from here: http://logs.openstack.org/69/198869/6/check/gate-infra-puppet-apply-bare-trusty/6185973/puppetapplytest28.final.out | 19:54 |
| catherineD|2 | does that only happen to our patch? | 19:55 |
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| pvaneck | yes, since the log is refstack-related | 19:56 |
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| catherineD|2 | ok | 19:56 |
| catherineD|2 | I guess we need to ask for help on infra IRC | 19:57 |
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| pvaneck | i will investigate a bit more | 19:58 |
| catherineD|2 | #action pvaneck: will investigate and ask for help on infra IRC channel | 19:58 |
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| catherineD|2 | I guess we run out of time ... sslypushenko__: let's discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192709 on #refstack | 19:59 |
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| sslypushenko__ | ok | 19:59 |
| catherineD|2 | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 10 19:59:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-10-19.01.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-10-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-10-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 10 20:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| rellerreller | o/ | 20:01 |
| chellygel | ヽ(⌐■_■)ノ♪♬ | 20:01 |
| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:01 |
| dave-mccowan | \o/ | 20:01 |
| hockeynut | o/ | 20:01 |
| silos1 | o/ | 20:01 |
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| arunkant | o/ | 20:01 |
| elmiko | (ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ | 20:01 |
| jhfeng | o/ | 20:01 |
| chellygel | elmiko, lmao <3 | 20:01 |
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| igueths | o/ | 20:01 |
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| pkazmir | o/ | 20:01 |
| elmiko | chellygel, totally inspired by you =) | 20:01 |
| redrobot | lol | 20:02 |
| pkazmir | heh | 20:02 |
| redrobot | awesome, lots of barbicaneers here today | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | #topic Review Action Items from last meeting | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-08-03-20.00.html | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items from last meeting (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:02 | |
| redrobot | looks like that redrobot guy had a lot to do... and didn't do any of it... | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | in my defense we did have a mid-cycle since last week | 20:03 |
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| woodster_ | o/ | 20:03 |
| redrobot | so I'll be doing those things this week | 20:03 |
| redrobot | redrobot to finish prioritizing liberty-2 bugs, and also check them for kilo status | 20:03 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to finish prioritizing liberty-2 bugs, and also check them for kilo status | 20:03 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to fix the stable/kilo gate failures during mid-cycle | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | ^^ regarding the broken gate, I'll actually be looking into that right after the meeting | 20:04 |
| pkazmir | Do we have any new action items to add based on the midcycle? | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot and alee to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo after redrobot fixes the gate | 20:04 |
| redrobot | pkazmir good question | 20:04 |
| redrobot | pkazmir I'll cover action items from the mid-cycle next | 20:05 |
| alee | o/ | 20:05 |
| pkazmir | k | 20:05 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on to the actual agenda | 20:05 |
| redrobot | which we don't have anything on this time around... so I'll be making up topics as we go | 20:05 |
| redrobot | #topic Mid-Cycle Sprint Recap | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | We had our mid cycle last week | 20:06 |
| redrobot | many thanks again to the JHAPL folks! | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | it was a great success | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-liberty-midcycle | 20:06 |
| pkazmir | +1000 | 20:06 |
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| rellerreller | Glad everyone enjoyed it :) | 20:07 |
| redrobot | we have a lot of action items that came out of the discussions. The've all been captured in the etherpad | 20:07 |
| hockeynut | awesome job rellerreller and kfarr - especially thanks for arranging cool weather for us Texans! | 20:07 |
| elmiko | impressive etherpad, well done all | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I'll be reviewing the etherpad in the next few days and emailing everyone who signed up for action items, so you don't have to dig through the whole thing to figure out what you signed up for. | 20:08 |
| woodster_ | 346520 | 20:08 |
| redrobot | elmiko we had an awesome note-taker | 20:08 |
| alee | rellerreller, +1000 for pluto tour .its going to hard to top that .. | 20:08 |
| chellygel | ^ | 20:08 |
| elmiko | redrobot, well, get that person an extra helping of "hell yeah" ;) | 20:08 |
| redrobot | elmiko hehe, will do! | 20:09 |
| redrobot | As far as this cycle is concerned, we did not add any blueprint exceptions, so all pending blueprints should be moved to a new M directory | 20:09 |
| * redrobot tries to remember what M is called...? | 20:10 | |
| silos1 | Mitaka?? | 20:10 |
| redrobot | silos1 I think you may be right... | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | on the Castellan front, we reviewed some of the pending CRs and will be doing just a little more work on those before we land them | 20:11 |
| kfarr | Working on them now! | 20:12 |
| redrobot | rellerreller i think we're going to use bytes instead of bytearrays? | 20:12 |
| rellerreller | redrobot yes | 20:12 |
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| rellerreller | Removing get_format and changing get_encoded to take an optional format parameter | 20:12 |
| kfarr | I don't think format needs to be removed? | 20:13 |
| redrobot | rellerreller kfarr correct... I think it's still valuable to keep a format property around to know what the current format of the secret is | 20:13 |
| rellerreller | If can call get_encoded to return in different formats then I do not think it is needed. | 20:13 |
| kfarr | but format is things like "PKCS#8" and "X.509" | 20:14 |
| kfarr | and get_encoded will take parameters like "DER" vs "PEM" | 20:14 |
| rellerreller | Right those would be passed to get_encoded. | 20:14 |
| kfarr | or am I misunderstanding :( :( | 20:14 |
| rellerreller | Always returning DER because API says returns bytes | 20:14 |
| redrobot | hmm.... I think kfarr makes a good point... | 20:15 |
| redrobot | I think maybe to unblock these, we can keep format for now, and then add the optional parameter later | 20:15 |
| redrobot | for now get_encoded wouldn't take any parameters and return the DER of whatever format the secret is in | 20:15 |
| kfarr | OK :) | 20:15 |
| redrobot | we can then discuss whether format and encoding need to be two separate things | 20:16 |
| redrobot | ie, | 20:16 |
| redrobot | get_encoded(format='pkcs8', encoding='der') | 20:16 |
| woodster_ | just glad this isn't a content-types discussion | 20:16 |
| redrobot | rellerreller sound good to you? | 20:16 |
| redrobot | woodster_ only mildly related... once we nail this we'd have ammo for exactly which content types we need ;) | 20:17 |
| rellerreller | OK, so keep get_format and get_encoded does not take any arguments. I'm ok with that. | 20:17 |
| redrobot | rellerreller well, rename get_format to just format, but yes | 20:17 |
| rellerreller | OK, sounds good to me | 20:17 |
| kfarr | That means https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191884/11 is already good to go! | 20:18 |
| redrobot | #agreed move forward with format and no arguments to get_encoded in current castellan CRs | 20:18 |
| redrobot | kfarr woot! I'll review it after the meeting. | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | another important topic to come out of the mid-cycle is the need to simply deployment | 20:19 |
| redrobot | and the eventual split of barbican-kms and barbican-cms | 20:19 |
| redrobot | the problem now is that someone who wants to deploy Barbican has to figure out both the secure storage part, as well as flesh out a Certificate Authority story | 20:20 |
| redrobot | as we look forward to Federation of Barbican secrets, then forcing everyone to stand up CA to deploy Barbican seems to be very burdensome | 20:20 |
| redrobot | especially if all you want is to federate secrets | 20:20 |
| redrobot | so we'll start having v2 conversations in the next summit, to separate the api for KMS from the api to do Cert management. | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | any questions, or other highlights from the midcycle worth mentioning? | 20:23 |
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| alee | redrobot, is there going to be a blueprint/spec for the v2 specification? | 20:24 |
| rellerreller | Barbican federation is on the horizon | 20:24 |
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| alee | redrobot, or are we just leaving it to etherpads for now? | 20:24 |
| redrobot | alee yes, jvrbanac took the action item to put up a spec to the spec repo | 20:24 |
| rm_work | redrobot: if cert generation was included in the Castellan interface, the split would be easy <_< | 20:24 |
| rm_work | redrobot: because you could just switch from using a barbican impl to a "whatever else" impl | 20:24 |
| elmiko | lol | 20:24 |
| redrobot | rm_work I think the idea is for Castellan to only provide KMS features | 20:25 |
| * rm_work is still a little annoyed at not even getting so much as a ping when that discussion happened | 20:25 | |
| alee | redrobot, jvrbanac - I'm assuming that migration will be a part of that spec | 20:25 |
| rm_work | redrobot: would you help me set up the infrastructure (repo, pypi, etc) for castellan-certs ? | 20:26 |
| rm_work | redrobot: it's probably going to have to happen, at this point i really just don't have experience with setting that stuff up and it's the major blocker for me as i'm low on time | 20:26 |
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| redrobot | rm_work we can talk about that as a topic later this meeting if you'd like. | 20:27 |
| rm_work | kk | 20:27 |
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| redrobot | alee yeah, migration, or rather v1 deprecation plans would have to be part of the spec | 20:27 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, we didn't decide on who would do the spec yet | 20:28 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac I do believe Lisa signed you up for that | 20:28 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac I'll double check my notes though. | 20:29 |
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| jvrbanac | redrobot, it was to start an etherpad | 20:29 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac we did have a conversation about an etherpad being way too messy for this process.... I think it would be best to have a spec | 20:30 |
| alee | redrobot, jvrbanac it would be awfully nice to have something to chew on by the time the summit comes around - some of these conversations are more easily accomplished face to face. | 20:30 |
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| alee | assuming of course that most folks will be at the summit -- which is perhaps not a good thing to assume | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac though now that I think of it, it may just have been a conversation between me and Lisa.... so yeah, a Spec would be much nicer I think. | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | ok, sounds like we don't have any more highlights and/or questions about the mid-cycle | 20:34 |
| redrobot | moving on | 20:34 |
| redrobot | #topic Castellan for certs | 20:34 |
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| rm_work | So, I have said this before, and I'll say it again -- I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here | 20:35 |
| rm_work | the "lack of use cases" statement is astoundingly ignorant | 20:35 |
| woodster_ | Step 1 is admitting you have a problem :) | 20:35 |
| woodster_ | jk!!! | 20:35 |
| redrobot | lol | 20:35 |
| rm_work | and if i seem a little frustrated, it's because i am a little frustrated | 20:35 |
| rm_work | sorry, very frustrated | 20:35 |
| rm_work | i am thinking maybe i made this into too much of a joke or something earlier | 20:35 |
| redrobot | so, fundamentally, Castellan is providing an interface for secret storage so that a project is not tied to Barbican and can use something else instead. | 20:36 |
| rm_work | yes | 20:36 |
| redrobot | so, for secret storage | 20:36 |
| rm_work | it was SUPPOSED to be "Secret and Certificate storage" | 20:36 |
| rm_work | which | 20:36 |
| redrobot | that something else could be a KMIP device, or a PKCS#11 device. | 20:36 |
| woodster_ | rm_work: it does seem like the stovepiped code for your use case should find a home someplace | 20:36 |
| rm_work | had i been more vigilant when we were making this spec to begin with, would have noticed the wording was changed from what we originally discussed verbally | 20:37 |
| redrobot | well, as woodster_ would say "The Devil is in the details" | 20:37 |
| rm_work | but that's old news | 20:37 |
| redrobot | the thing is you don't just want to store a cert | 20:37 |
| rm_work | and i have proven several times, i thought, that i could store whatever i want, including cert constructs, in whatever device i was presented | 20:37 |
| redrobot | you want to store a cert in addition to it's private key and public ca cert, intermediates and possibly a passphrase as a single bundle | 20:38 |
| rm_work | there's also nothing that says that every implementation has to exist for every interface | 20:38 |
| rm_work | i think maybe that is a misunderstanding | 20:38 |
| rm_work | obviously there wouldn't be an anchor driver for secret storage... | 20:38 |
| rm_work | just like maybe there wouldn't be a barbican driver for cert generation | 20:39 |
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| rm_work | though they could make use of each other internally (as I have gone over on whiteboards with woodster_ previously) | 20:39 |
| redrobot | then what's the benefit of a lowest common denominator interface, if there's no guarantee that what you put behind it will actually do all the things it needs to do? | 20:39 |
| rm_work | they weren't designed to be the same thing | 20:39 |
| rm_work | Castellan would have options for which impl would be used for each piece | 20:40 |
| rm_work | if you ever looked at the existing code that I proposed for castellan-certs, it already did that for generation vs. storage | 20:40 |
| elmiko | why can't castellan have a castellan.cert_manager akin to castellan.key_manager? the api_class would be different for both modules? | 20:40 |
| rm_work | exactly this ^^ | 20:40 |
| elmiko | (also enjoys crazy pills) | 20:41 |
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| elmiko | ;) | 20:41 |
| rm_work | there is a cert_manager_impl defined, and a key_manager_impl, and a cert_generator_impl | 20:41 |
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| rm_work | you can mix and match | 20:41 |
| rm_work | and they can use each other ALSO at the abstract level | 20:41 |
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| kfarr | What's the difference between cert_manager_impl and key_manager_impl ? | 20:41 |
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| redrobot | I think that this discussion boils down to this question: | 20:42 |
| rm_work | cert_manager_impl could use certmonger which could turn back around and use key_manager_impl | 20:42 |
| rm_work | if it wanted to | 20:42 |
| rm_work | but probably cert_manager_impl would *use* key_manager_impl | 20:42 |
| redrobot | why do you want to store a cert bundle as a single thing, instead of using castellan.key_manager to store the different pieces? | 20:42 |
| redrobot | I understand the barbican use case that an OpenStack user can upload a cert-container and just pass a single reference to lbass, instead of 3 (or 4) references to the separate things | 20:43 |
| rm_work | well, my original plan was to use cert_generator_impl and key_manager_impl and include the cert functions in there, but as you pointed out, there was pushback to that | 20:43 |
| redrobot | there's push back to bundling a certificate | 20:44 |
| redrobot | I think we all agreed that a cert, by itself, could be one of the managed objects in castellan | 20:44 |
| rm_work | so you disagree at a very high level that Openstack should not have the concept of a Certificate bundle? | 20:44 |
| rm_work | is that what's really at issue? | 20:44 |
| rm_work | if that's the problem, then we disagree *fundamentally* | 20:45 |
| redrobot | that's the argument against putting a bundle in castellan... because the only system we know that can bundle certs like that is Barbican | 20:45 |
| rm_work | and this is a bigger problem than I thought :/ | 20:45 |
| rm_work | redrobot: ANY SYSTEM CAN BUNDLE CERTS | 20:45 |
| rm_work | i don't know how many hundreds of times i have to explain that | 20:45 |
| rm_work | I could bundle certs in pure KMIP | 20:45 |
| rm_work | I could bundle certs in LDAP | 20:46 |
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| kfarr | rm_work, how would you bundle certs in KMIP? | 20:46 |
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| rm_work | there are a couple of options | 20:46 |
| woodster_ | I've been thinking the cert manager would support storing a bundled cert into key storage, perhaps without the key storage knowing (or caring) it was storing such a bundle | 20:47 |
| rm_work | ^^ this | 20:47 |
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| rm_work | the naive approach is to literally tack them on to each other in a predefined order and store them all together | 20:47 |
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| woodster_ | I've been thinking this functionality would be more of a support/utility feature set in addition to castellan | 20:48 |
| rm_work | another naive approach is to store them all as seperate entities and then store a "container secret" with references to all of the other ones, using JSON or something | 20:48 |
| rm_work | and then the reference to that is the "cert bundle" | 20:48 |
| rm_work | or PKCS12 if KMIP supports complex structures (though I don't think it does?) | 20:48 |
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| kfarr | I don't think it does in 1.2 | 20:49 |
| rm_work | "A KMIP server stores and controls Managed Objects such as Symmetric and Asymmetric keys, Certificates, and user defined objects." | 20:49 |
| rm_work | the key here being "user defined objects" | 20:49 |
| rm_work | if I can store whatever I want, then it is *trivial* to store a cert bundle | 20:50 |
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| arunkant | rm_work, is castellan cert manager supposed to generate certs or just provide cert storage parts? Is it expected to integrate with barbican, considering its not synchronous flow? | 20:50 |
| rm_work | arunkant: i was proposing TWO interfaces, cert_manager and cert_generator | 20:50 |
| rm_work | it could integrate with barbican or not, but it wouldn't matter, as cert_generator would utilize cert_manager for storage, and cert_manager could utilize key_manager for storage if it wanted to | 20:51 |
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| rm_work | or it could be done all independently... totally up to the implementation | 20:51 |
| arunkant | rm_work, okay..so cert_generator will talk to Barbican then for cert generation? | 20:51 |
| rm_work | if you used that implementation | 20:52 |
| rm_work | or it could talk to Anchor, or certmonger, or dogtag directly | 20:52 |
| rm_work | the only issue is that I will fully admit this ventures into the territory of "becoming a cert manager akin to what barbican was doing in the first place" | 20:52 |
| woodster_ | rm_work: just curious, is the code that has been copy/pasta-ed into the various projects changed much from the original castellan CR you had up? | 20:52 |
| arunkant | rm_work, but that impl will be quite different from certmonger as barbican's async behavior | 20:53 |
| rm_work | it has evolved a little bit | 20:53 |
| rm_work | arunkant: yeah, so that is one issue -- is it sync or async | 20:53 |
| rm_work | and is sync even feasible for anything but anchor | 20:53 |
| redrobot | probably not... any real CA is going to have some process for an RA to approve/deny cert requests. | 20:53 |
| rm_work | woodster_: the two repos the code exists in now have actually diverged a bit, which is not great -- that's another motivator for me to get it centralized ASAP | 20:54 |
| rm_work | redrobot: cert_generator by far poses the greatest issue, and it's possible that cert_generator might just be whatever new project Barbican splits cert_generation into | 20:54 |
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| rm_work | cert_manager though seems like a braindead simple decision to include though | 20:55 |
| redrobot | we're running out of time for today | 20:55 |
| rm_work | s/though// | 20:55 |
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| redrobot | and I don't think rellerreller is still around | 20:55 |
| woodster_ | well, async can be brute-force turned into a sync. Dogtag directly could support sync as well. | 20:55 |
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| rm_work | i think everyone is paralyzed in fear that including a cert interface would somehow jeapardize the integrity of the existing key interface, and i just don't think that's the case | 20:55 |
| redrobot | so I don't want to make a decision now... rm_work will you be available to continue this as the first topic next week? | 20:56 |
| woodster_ | so would a separate project to hold the cert stuff answer the need here? | 20:56 |
| rm_work | woodster_: yeah i was going to mention that but it's ugly | 20:56 |
| rm_work | redrobot: yes probably | 20:56 |
| rm_work | woodster_: ^^ the async->sync thing | 20:56 |
| redrobot | rm_work k, let's punt to next week though and get feedback from rellerreller about a possible cert_manager in a separate namespace. | 20:56 |
| rm_work | that actually IS the current solution -- polling, in the case of Barbican | 20:56 |
| kfarr | rm_work, do you have this written up somewhere? | 20:56 |
| rm_work | kfarr: i have code implemented >_> | 20:56 |
| woodster_ | do we need (dare I say it) an etherpad for this? :) | 20:56 |
| rm_work | that is in use by two projects already | 20:57 |
| rm_work | and has been for about 8 months | 20:57 |
| kfarr | key manager, cert manager, cert generator? | 20:57 |
| rm_work | the latter two | 20:57 |
| rm_work | which are modeled directly from cinder's key manager | 20:57 |
| rm_work | with the explicit intention of coexisting | 20:57 |
| pkazmir | (Don't pull a Woody!) | 20:57 |
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| woodster_ | pkazmir: ha! | 20:57 |
| rm_work | things have changed a bit, and a lot of my motivation to see all your CRs land for Castellan was so I could finally get to work updating them | 20:58 |
| rm_work | and actually make something that could be submitted to the current Castellan landscape | 20:58 |
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| rm_work | kfarr: ^^ | 20:58 |
| alee | rm_work, I understand what you are trying to do - we also need to consider how this affects plans for migration to v2 | 20:58 |
| rm_work | alee: i think it couldn't possible hinder migration | 20:59 |
| rm_work | and in fact it seems that it would actually open up easy avenues for migration | 20:59 |
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| woodster_ | alee: I'd think it is just which endpoints you hit under the hood (for the KMS/CMS servers that is) | 20:59 |
| redrobot | rm_work let's plan on getting kfarr's crs landed this week so you can have a CR up for discussion next week. | 20:59 |
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| rm_work | redrobot: kk | 20:59 |
| dave-mccowan | Please review this quota support CR: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205894/ it's the foundation for the rest of the quotas code, so I'd like to get it stable ASAP to make sure the full blueprint is implemented in Liberty. | 20:59 |
| redrobot | alright guys, we're out of time here | 20:59 |
| redrobot | thanks for coming! | 20:59 |
| rm_work | if the discussion is monday, that'll be cutting it close if we don't merge those SOON :P | 20:59 |
| alee | woodster_, yes and no -- in v2 we're talking about eliminating cert containers | 20:59 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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