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| matrohon | hi all | 15:02 |
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| matrohon | anybody around for bgpvpn meeting? | 15:02 |
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| svinota | matrohon, /me | 15:03 |
| janscheurich | Me too | 15:03 |
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| matrohon | svinota, janscheurich : hi | 15:03 |
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| svinota | matrohon, not so much things to discuss, but anyway | 15:03 |
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| svinota | matrohon, , janscheurich hi | 15:04 |
| matrohon | it's gone be a quick one | 15:04 |
| matrohon | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 11 15:04:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matrohon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:04 |
| janscheurich | matrohon, svinota: hi | 15:04 |
| matrohon | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
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| matrohon | the discussion on the spec seems slow currently | 15:05 |
| matrohon | it seems we have a agreement on it | 15:06 |
| janscheurich | How far are we on freezing the current scope? | 15:06 |
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| matrohon | <janscheurich> : actually, I think we gone freeze the scope depending on the progress we make in the code | 15:07 |
| janscheurich | I didn't check the code so far. But is the southbound driver API up to date with the current API already? | 15:08 |
| matrohon | <janscheurich> : once we will release the 1.0 version, we probably split the spec, and merge only the description of what has been coded | 15:08 |
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| matrohon | <janscheurich> : I'm currently working on the network-associate API | 15:09 |
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| matrohon | <janscheurich> : actually, I'm currently working on the improvment of the UT framwork | 15:10 |
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| matrohon | but there is already some code for the *-associate API | 15:10 |
| matrohon | I think the most important right now is the test framework, since currently too few code is tested | 15:11 |
| matrohon | a acceptable test framework will increase our dev efficiency | 15:12 |
| janscheurich | Sounds reasonable. | 15:12 |
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| matrohon | any annoucment, anyone? | 15:12 |
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| svinota | not sure how it is directly related | 15:13 |
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| svinota | but may be interesting in the bgpvpn perspective | 15:13 |
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| svinota | matrohon, may I? | 15:13 |
| matrohon | of course :) | 15:14 |
| svinota | we have MPLS routes in the kernel starting from 4.1.4 or like that | 15:14 |
| matrohon | ho very interesting! | 15:14 |
| svinota | and the userspace part will be done in the pyroute2 this week | 15:14 |
| svinota | to add/remove/modify MPLS routes | 15:15 |
| svinota | that's just label switching, no label exchange | 15:15 |
| svinota | but anyways. | 15:15 |
| matrohon | tmorin told me that there were work in progress on this part | 15:15 |
| matrohon | really good news | 15:15 |
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| matrohon | do you have any link? | 15:15 |
| svinota | so it is not so mature, but working good enough | 15:15 |
| svinota | matrohon, only the code in the git :) | 15:16 |
| matrohon | may be the kernel patch? | 15:16 |
| matrohon | ok | 15:16 |
| matrohon | actaully, ovs 2.4 is not already out, so having an alternative to avs would be very interesting | 15:17 |
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| svinota | the userspace support is done in the new iproute2, but I will do it for the python API as well | 15:17 |
| matrohon | moreover, I'm not sur every net/sys admin is a big fan of ovs | 15:17 |
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| svinota | net/mpls/af_mpls.c | 15:18 |
| matrohon | #info : MPLS support is provided in kernel 4.1.4, and userspace support will be done in iproute2 soon | 15:18 |
| matrohon | svinota : thanks | 15:19 |
| svinota | not correct. In iproute2 it is already started | 15:19 |
| svinota | but this week it will be done in pyroute2 as well | 15:19 |
| matrohon | #undo | 15:19 |
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| matrohon | #info : MPLS support is provided in kernel 4.1.4, and userspace support is in progress in iproute2. pyroute2 implementation will be done soon | 15:20 |
| matrohon | svinota : does it sound better ? :) | 15:20 |
| svinota | yep :) | 15:21 |
| svinota | I hope the work will be useful to exabgp | 15:21 |
| matrohon | svinota : did you make any progress on the code? | 15:21 |
| svinota | matrohon, on which one? | 15:21 |
| matrohon | svinota : I mean the bgpvpn code :) | 15:22 |
| svinota | ;) not so much. A bit stuck with the discovery | 15:22 |
| matrohon | discovery? | 15:22 |
| svinota | attribute discovery. | 15:22 |
| svinota | optional attribute. | 15:22 |
| matrohon | for the dedicated extension? | 15:23 |
| svinota | yep | 15:23 |
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| janscheurich | Do you have a link where can I find existing bgpvpn code defining the SB driver API? I'm interested in the context of ODL driver | 15:24 |
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| matrohon | svinota : I'll try to think about it deeper since I'm debugging the netron extension framework for the UT purpose | 15:24 |
| matrohon | <janscheurich> : currently it is define in : https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/master/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/service_drivers/__init__.py | 15:26 |
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| matrohon | there are 3 main methods : create/delete/update | 15:27 |
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| matrohon | with tmorin, we was wondering if we still have to provide the ability to associate a connection with an update call to the bgpvpn_connection | 15:28 |
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| matrohon | or this feture should only be available through the new network_associate API | 15:28 |
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| janscheurich | Thanks! And the driver for the bagpipe back-end is where? | 15:29 |
| matrohon | there are dummy driver here : https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/master/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/service_drivers/dummy.py | 15:30 |
| matrohon | for tests purposes | 15:30 |
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| janscheurich | Do you foresee a separate driver API for the network and router association handling? | 15:30 |
| matrohon | and the bagpipe driver : https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/master/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/service_drivers/bagpipe/bagpipe.py | 15:30 |
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| janscheurich | Thanks | 15:30 |
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| matrohon | Currently there is two type of inheritance for the driver, depending whether you need to store datas in the db or not | 15:31 |
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| matrohon | doude who is currently working on the contrail driver, made this change | 15:32 |
| matrohon | because contrail manage its own db | 15:32 |
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| matrohon | <janscheurich>: we gone have two seperated API for net association and router association | 15:33 |
| matrohon | that's the way I'm working currently | 15:33 |
| janscheurich | OK. Any idea when the driver APIs for *_associations will be defined? | 15:34 |
| matrohon | a WIP is currently under review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207371/ | 15:35 |
| matrohon | but this WIP showed that the tests framework is really too lazy since test passed while this patch breaks neutron :) | 15:36 |
| matrohon | <janscheurich> : you can start working on the router association if you have time | 15:37 |
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| janscheurich | I'm not really a neutron coder (yet ;-) Just learning how things fit together | 15:38 |
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| matrohon | <janscheurich> : I really think it's a good way to start coding in neutron, you'll learn all the stack (extension, DB, API, service type).... :) | 15:39 |
| matrohon | <janscheurich> : and of course I can help if you have any question | 15:40 |
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| matrohon | <janscheurich> : at least I can try to help :) | 15:40 |
| janscheurich | Yes. But you need well-written examples to steal from. | 15:41 |
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| janscheurich | once the network association is done it should be straightforward to adapt it for router assoc. | 15:41 |
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| matrohon | janscheurich : the ball on my side so :) | 15:41 |
| janscheurich | :-) | 15:42 |
| matrohon | I encourage you to keep reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191944/ | 15:42 |
| janscheurich | Will try | 15:42 |
| matrohon | pc_m is making good progress to converge to single vpnaas framework | 15:43 |
| janscheurich | Shouldn't we use that then for BGPVPN? | 15:43 |
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| pc_m | matrohon: Thanks. Can use input on it for sure. | 15:44 |
| matrohon | I keep thinking it would be a interesting option. | 15:44 |
| pc_m | matrohon: For endpoints for BGPVPN what will be used? | 15:44 |
| pc_m | For IPSec we'll use subnet CIDRs. | 15:45 |
| matrohon | pc_m : currently, it's networks, but I don't know what to use instead of uuid.... | 15:45 |
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| pc_m | matrohon: For local then, you use the uuid. For peer, it's dynamic and not specified? | 15:46 |
| matrohon | pc_m : in fact in ipsec cases, the key is router+cidr | 15:46 |
| matrohon | pc_m : yes | 15:46 |
| matrohon | pc_m : with router+cidr you can manage overlaping cidrs in a tenant deployment | 15:47 |
| pc_m | matrohon: I think the router could be implied/derived from the CIDR. | 15:47 |
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| janscheurich | May I bring up one more topic? | 15:48 |
| matrohon | pc_m : but the tenant can use the same cidr for different networks, am I wrong? | 15:48 |
| pc_m | matrohon: So have the same subnet CIDR used on two different routers? | 15:49 |
| matrohon | pc_m : yep | 15:49 |
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| matrohon | pc_m : I think it's possible, not sure | 15:49 |
| pc_m | matrohon: Don't know. | 15:49 |
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| matrohon | janscheurich : please go ahead | 15:50 |
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| janscheurich | We have been in discussion with AT&T and they are not satisfied with network/subnet granularity. They would also like to have the option to associate individual Neutron ports with a BGPVPN object, so that ports in the same Network/Subnet could be placed in different VPNs | 15:51 |
| janscheurich | This would, of course, break traditional Neutron L2 forwarding semantics | 15:52 |
| janscheurich | But they are not concerned about that. | 15:53 |
| matrohon | janscheurich : yep, we also had a discussion with AT&T, pcarver included | 15:53 |
| matrohon | janscheurich : I think the new API is suitable for that since we can easily have a port_associate API | 15:53 |
| janscheurich | What was your conclusion? | 15:53 |
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| janscheurich | That was my impression as well. It's just the semantics that have to be carefully defined | 15:54 |
| janscheurich | And perhaps not all backends will support that. | 15:55 |
| matrohon | actaully, that would be quite easy for bagpipe, since it already annouces a /32 for each port | 15:55 |
| matrohon | janscheurich: +1 | 15:55 |
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| janscheurich | As most backends do, I'm sure | 15:55 |
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| janscheurich | How do we handle optionality of *_association in the API? | 15:56 |
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| matrohon | a framework with extension loadable by backends would be really suitable for every optional attribute/API | 15:56 |
| matrohon | I think it's the good way to introduce the RD optional argument too | 15:56 |
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| matrohon | such a framework already exist, with ML2 driver able to load their own extensions | 15:57 |
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| matrohon | https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/blob/master/specs/juno/neutron-ml2-mechanismdriver-extensions.rst | 15:58 |
| janscheurich | Is that a matter of copy&paste from ML2 or something general support library that can be re-used? | 15:59 |
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| matrohon | I'm not sure we need the entire ML2 framework, but no, there is no dedicated lib | 16:00 |
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| janscheurich | Interesting but time's running out | 16:00 |
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| matrohon | we are out of time, you're :) | 16:01 |
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| matrohon | you're right! | 16:01 |
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| matrohon | let's see what is achievable for liberty! | 16:01 |
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| matrohon | thanks janscheurich, svinota | 16:01 |
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| matrohon | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 11 16:01:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| svinota | thanks | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-08-11-15.04.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-08-11-15.04.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-08-11-15.04.log.html | 16:02 |
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| janscheurich | thanks and bye | 16:02 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting Murano | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 11 16:59:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 16:59 |
| aderyugin | 0/ | 16:59 |
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| sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:00 |
| ativelkov | o/ :) | 17:00 |
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| FilipBlaha | o/ | 17:00 |
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| ddovbii | hi | 17:00 |
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| freerunner | hey! | 17:00 |
| mgershen | o/ | 17:00 |
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| sergmelikyan | Agenda for todays meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:02 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:02 |
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| sergmelikyan | #1 kzaitsev_mb write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | hi | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sry, thought that we're in meeting-3 for some reason. | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I remember I had to write 2 emails. I thin I only wrote one. | 17:04 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Was really waiting for yaql commits to be merged | 17:04 |
| ativelkov | kzaitsev_mb: they are | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so I wrote an email about periodic jobs, yes =) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and didn't write one about testing yaql | 17:05 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: most of them are merged, I believe we can release RC2 already | 17:05 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov: do you have plans to do that in near future? | 17:05 |
| ativelkov | sergmelikyan: sure. In an hour or so. | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Will write to ML, right after RC2 hits pypi =) | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | awesome! | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | #action kzaitsev_mb write an email to encourage murano team and murano users to test new yaql | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | #2 kzaitsev_mb write e-mail about stable jobs | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | done :) | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | right? :) | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep that one is done. | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | no failures from murano jobs there btw | 17:07 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic YAQL 1.0 Status | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | hope it'll stay that way =) | 17:07 |
| sergmelikyan | I think this also covers status for yaql 1.0 - RC2 + testing => release | 17:07 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: yep :) | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | citing Stan: RC2 would most likely become 1.0 and commit is ready to be tested. And is in fact being tested already. | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: we thought same thing about RC1 ;) | 17:09 |
| slagun | The difference between RC1 and RC2 is that Murano already works on RC2 | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so just for the record #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204099/ | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and the spec | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209908/ | 17:10 |
| slagun | Thre will be second spec as soon as I fix one more bug in this commit and then I'll update commit message | 17:11 |
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| sergmelikyan | We plan to update commits to Murano with new requirement to RC2 | 17:12 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun: | 17:13 |
| sergmelikyan | sorry :) It was question :) | 17:14 |
| slagun | the question is should we update requirements.txt for rc2? | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | yep | 17:15 |
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| slagun | Maybe it will be better to set it to >=1.0.0<2.0.0 right from the start, test with RC2 and if everything work fine make rc2 to be the release and merge new engine there? | 17:16 |
| slagun | I'm not sure | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun: I am not sure that it will work | 17:17 |
| slagun | why? | 17:17 |
| sergmelikyan | I think pip will skip beta packages when you set this kind of requirements | 17:18 |
| ativelkov | I like the idea of having final rquirements from the beginning | 17:18 |
| ativelkov | but yeah, rc will be ignored | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we'll have to ignore openstack-proposal bot for some time I guess, but that's fine by me | 17:18 |
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| slagun | we will release 1.0.0 final before new engine so no problem here. At least if you okay with installing requirements manually for tests | 17:20 |
| ativelkov | I've added one more commit to yaql (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211678): very simple one. Please review, and I'll release rc2 as soon as this one is merged | 17:20 |
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| sergmelikyan | ativelkov: +2 | 17:21 |
| ativelkov | thanks | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun: let's pin to RC2 for now | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun: ok? | 17:21 |
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| slagun | okay | 17:22 |
| slagun | ativelkov: +2/+1 | 17:22 |
| ativelkov | thanks :) | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | #info pin yaql requirements to RC2 | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | #undo | 17:23 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0xa50c850> | 17:23 |
| sergmelikyan | #action pin yaql requirements to RC2 | 17:23 |
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| slagun | >=1.0.0rc2<2.0.0 is ok? | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | nope | 17:23 |
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| ativelkov | let's pin with == for now | 17:24 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Artifact (glance v3) transition status update | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Artifact (glance v3) transition status update (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 17:24 | |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov: +1 | 17:24 |
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| ativelkov | OK. So, there is a bunch of bugs in glance reported related to artifact filtering by version | 17:24 |
| katyafervent2 | hi, sorry I'm late | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1479700 | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479700 in Glance "Artifacts: filtering by dictionary key is not working" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Alexander Tivelkov (ativelkov) | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1480392 | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1480393 | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480392 in Glance "Artifacts: filtering by range is not working as expected" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Alexander Tivelkov (ativelkov) | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480393 in Glance "Artifacts: filtering by version ignores operators other than equality" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Alexander Tivelkov (ativelkov) | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1479700 in glance "Artifacts: filtering by dictionary key is not working" [Undecided,In progress] | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1479700 in glance "Artifacts: filtering by dictionary key is not working" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479700 | 17:25 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480392 in glance "Artifacts: filtering by range is not working as expected" [Undecided,New] | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480392 in glance "Artifacts: filtering by range is not working as expected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480392 | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480393 in glance "Artifacts: filtering by version ignores operators other than equality" [Undecided,New] | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480393 in glance "Artifacts: filtering by version ignores operators other than equality" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480393 | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | oops ) lots of bot spam, sorry | 17:26 |
| katyafervent2 | ativelkov, do you plan to fux them by yourself? | 17:26 |
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| katyafervent2 | *fix | 17:26 |
| ativelkov | Yes. The first one is fixed already. It just awaits for some tests to be landed | 17:26 |
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| ativelkov | The initial commit of the murano artifact itself is in gerrit | 17:26 |
| ativelkov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211635/ | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ohmygosh. I almost thought that we already ended the meetint with 3 messages from @openstack %) | 17:27 |
| katyafervent2 | that's cool, so are we just waiting for bugs to be fixed, right? | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | katyafervent2: not just them. We'll have to add artifacts support to python-muranoclient afterwards | 17:28 |
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| sergmelikyan | ativelkov: nice, what about support of them in Murano? I believe I did see something pushed recently | 17:30 |
| ativelkov | sergmelikyan: just the plugin itself (see the link above) | 17:30 |
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| ativelkov | The code in python-muranoclient has to wait till the fixes are in place (and till we release an experimatal version of python-glanceclient with v3 support) | 17:31 |
| katyafervent2 | can we start working on the client? or bugs block that activity? | 17:31 |
| katyafervent2 | got the answer) | 17:32 |
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| ativelkov | so, the plan is to close the glance bugs later this week, so we may proceed | 17:34 |
| sergmelikyan | #info ativelkov is working on bugs in GLARE, plugin for Murano is published | 17:34 |
| slagun | what is GLARE? | 17:35 |
| slagun | artifact repository? | 17:35 |
| ativelkov | GLance Artifact REpository ) | 17:35 |
| ativelkov | mfedosin coined the name while in Vancouver :) | 17:35 |
| ativelkov | funny it's got known wider | 17:36 |
| ativelkov | next item? :) | 17:37 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:37 |
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| sergmelikyan | I would like to bring to attention feedback in this commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211157/3/murano/engine/system/heat_stack.py | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | while mgershen and slagun are both here :) | 17:38 |
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| sergmelikyan | should we address it or merge as it is? | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | I am for addressing :) | 17:38 |
| slagun | sergmelikyan: what exactly do you want to address there? | 17:39 |
| mgershen | Kirill Zaitsev also has a comment. | 17:39 |
| mgershen | I am fine with whatever slagun thinks | 17:40 |
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| sergmelikyan | What about comment from kzaitsev_mb? | 17:40 |
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| sergmelikyan | mgershen: I got correctly that your second comment is about formmating of the same code? | 17:41 |
| mgershen | yes, I just read the style guide ^^" | 17:41 |
| sergmelikyan | I would prefer to have fix for this bug ASAP, but I don't see how kzaitsev_mb concern is addressed, but I see +1 from him :) | 17:42 |
| slagun | there cannot be infinite loop in this case. Though the waiting code in theory can wait forever but it could do so before and it is not related to this commit | 17:42 |
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| slagun | I thought we agreed on that with kzaitsev_mb | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | true | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I wonder if we should continue the loop if we got 404 from heat, though | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | is there any valid situation where we should do so? | 17:43 |
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| slagun | we will not continue in that case | 17:44 |
| slagun | self._last_stack_timestamps will be reseted to (None, None) in that case | 17:44 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | yep, but initial values are (None, None). I meant we could just ignore this code if got 404 | 17:45 |
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| sergmelikyan | slagun: I would happy to see that you agreed in comments to review :) It was somewhat silent agreement :) | 17:46 |
| kzaitsev_mb | that would eliminate even theoretical possibility of us waiting forever | 17:46 |
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| slagun | kzaitsev_mb: I don't see theoretical possibility even as for now. And this change will make this code even more cryptic. In what case there can be infinite loop? | 17:48 |
| slagun | Even in theory | 17:48 |
| kzaitsev_mb | In current code — there can't be. I've updated my review btw ) | 17:49 |
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| sergmelikyan | Than let's finish discussing this bug :) | 17:49 |
| sergmelikyan | Thank you folks | 17:50 |
| sergmelikyan | Please leave comments in review in the future | 17:50 |
| mgershen | ok | 17:50 |
| sergmelikyan | It's was confusing :( | 17:50 |
| mgershen | sorry :( | 17:50 |
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| ativelkov | folks, I've updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211678/ (there was some pep issue). Could you please re-approve? | 17:51 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | just for the record todays agenda is available at #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-08-11/ | 17:52 |
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| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 11 17:56:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-08-11-16.59.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-08-11-16.59.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-08-11-16.59.log.html | 17:56 |
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| dimtruck | o/ | 21:01 |
| dimtruck | \oo/ | 21:01 |
| muralia | hasnt started yet dimtruck | 21:01 |
| dimtruck | i'm just celebrating | 21:02 |
| dimtruck | it's a dance muralia | 21:02 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 11 21:06:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:06 |
| dimtruck | o/ | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-08-11_2100_UTC Our Agneda | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:07 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:07 |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | hello dimtruck, muralia, devkulkarni | 21:07 |
| dimtruck | hello! | 21:07 |
| muralia | hey adrian | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | hi adrian | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:08 | |
| adrian_otto | Any announcements from team members? | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:08 |
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| adrian_otto | (none) | 21:08 |
| rods | hello! | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | hi rods | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review and Discussion | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | (devkulkarni) Update on app resource. | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | Resource implemented by Ed. Resource implementation already merged. I am currently working on adding functional tests. | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | I = devkulkarni | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | so yes.. | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | the resource implementation for app resource is already in master | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | I am currently working on functional tests. | 21:10 |
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| devkulkarni | requesting folks to keep an eye out | 21:10 |
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| devkulkarni | will be good to have review feedback on patches | 21:10 |
| muralia | nice | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | thanks muralia.. will be good to have you take a look at the patches | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | (devkulkarni) Update on workflow resource implementation | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | so on this one.. | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/stackforge/solum-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/app-resource.rst Spec | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | the spec has been merged a while back | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | workflow resource, or app resource? | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | workflow resource | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | code for app resource is merged in master | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | code for workflow resource is in WIP patches | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | both items were started by Ed | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | I am continuing both the items | 21:12 |
| muralia | what work is remaining devkulkarni? | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: so several things are remaining on workflow resource.. | 21:13 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) need to complete the resource definition and the crud methods | 21:13 |
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| devkulkarni | 2) need to connect the resources to our main engine (worker, deployer) | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni | those are minimum to get an end-to-end picture complete | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni | after that.. | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni | 3) need to add 'history' | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | 4) also, move 'logs' resource from assembly to app | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | right now, Ed's WIP patches are for step 1 above | 21:14 |
| muralia | ok | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | and those are not complete yet | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | (devkulkarni) Update on Vagrant setup -- we are back to deploying apps on Vagrant. | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | I will be pushing those patches forward after adding functional tests to the 'app' resource is completed | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | ok on the Vagrant setup .. | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | vagrant works again | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | yes — that is the status | 21:15 |
| muralia | nice | 21:16 |
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| devkulkarni | we are able to deploy apps on Vagrant setup again (was having issues due to nova-docker and neutron) | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | so anyone who wants to contribute to developing solum can use vagrant to get an end-to-end experience | 21:16 |
| james_li | which docker version are we using in vagrant? | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | ping me if you want details about where to find vagrant repo | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: 1.7.0 | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | with 1.7.1 it has been failing | 21:17 |
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| devkulkarni | I have submitted a patch to nova-docker | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | "it" == our vagrant setup | 21:17 |
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| james_li | ok. I was testing against 1.7.0 too | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | oh ok | 21:17 |
| james_li | never work with 1.7.1 before | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | ok, that is good to know. | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | right now, till that patch gets merged in nova-docker | 21:18 |
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| devkulkarni | I have pinned our Vagrant environment to my fork of nova-docker | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | in which I have pinned docker version to 1.7.0 | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | you may post your own topic now. | 21:18 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: ok | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni) Discuss writing of spec for solum-magnum integration. We have a bp for it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/magnum-integration. Need a volunteer to lead the effort of writing the spec. | 21:19 |
| dimtruck | devkulkarni: 1.8.0 just got released | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: thanks for the info | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | I will test whether nova-docker would work with 1.8.0 | 21:19 |
| james_li | dimtruck: what? | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | so last time we were talking about using magnum within solum | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck and muralia seem to have some understanding of the topic | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck, muralia: any thoughts on the spec? | 21:20 |
| dimtruck | james_li: https://github.com/docker/docker/releases/tag/v1.8.0 | 21:20 |
| james_li | checking | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | thanks dimtruck | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | I could help with the magnum spec | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | that would be awesome adrian_otto | 21:21 |
| muralia | not much to contribute right now. I've started working with magnum. i do like the idea of integrating with magnum and i'll work on the spec | 21:21 |
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| adrian_otto | but I may not be very fast, as I'm balancing a number of commitments. | 21:21 |
| dimtruck | i'd like to help out too :) | 21:21 |
| muralia | same here :) | 21:21 |
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| dimtruck | it'll probably be a slow'ish process since we're all still spinning up | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto, muralia, dimtruck: I understand | 21:22 |
| dimtruck | but there's a definite potential of solum -> heat -> magnum flow that would help us a ton | 21:22 |
| muralia | i think we should wait for the other resources to get merged first anyway | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | there is no rush (although I was thinking may be it will be a nice thing to have landed before Tokyo) | 21:22 |
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| devkulkarni | muralia: actually there is dependency imo | 21:22 |
| muralia | i see | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | because the main change is going to be in the deployer | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | instead of using heat+nova-docker we will be using heat+magnum | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | i.e. the magnum resource in heat | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | at least that is my understanding | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | anyways — there is no rush | 21:23 |
| muralia | hmm yes | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto, muralia, dimtruck: thanks for volunteering for the spec | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | ok that was all on that topic | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | I had one more | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni) Pluggable deployer architecture (Please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202254/2). We need this for several follow-up features (non-destructive app update, solum-magnum integration, HA architecture) | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | so this one is about pluggable deployer architecture | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | randallburt has submitted a spec | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | whenever you get a chance, please review it | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | for several follow-up features we need the pluggable deployer model | 21:25 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar: you might want to take a look at that spec as well | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202254/2 | 21:27 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: sure | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | thanks vijendar | 21:27 |
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| devkulkarni | that is all on that topic | 21:27 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/202254 Spec for deployer plugins | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | we talked about the use of flavors | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | I think that's a really bad idea, and I'm willing to -2 the spec if we don't change that | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yes — we did talk about that | 21:30 |
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| devkulkarni | sure, I think that is ok | 21:30 |
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| devkulkarni | I know that randallburt had a couple of other suggestions | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | I will follow up with him | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | consensus on topology in the review comments | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | we converged on "template" when we discussed this in a previous team meeting | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | yes, that is correct | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | so one of the action items could be to change the spec | 21:32 |
| devkulkarni | to reflect this agreement (use "template") | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I reviewed with a -1 asking for that change | 21:34 |
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| devkulkarni | nice | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | anythign else to covera s a group today? | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | that was all on my list | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | great | 21:34 |
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| adrian_otto | our next team meeting will be Tuesday 2015-08-18 at 2100 UTC | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | see you then! | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | thank you adrian_otto | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 11 21:35:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-08-11-21.06.html | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-08-11-21.06.txt | 21:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-08-11-21.06.log.html | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | cheers devkulkarni | 21:35 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 11 22:01:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers Our Agenda (will revise momentarily) | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
| apmelton | Andrew Melton | 22:01 |
| hongbin | o/ | 22:01 |
| bradjones | o/ | 22:01 |
| Tango|2 | Ton Ngo | 22:01 |
| dane_leblanc | O/ | 22:01 |
| yuanying-alt | o/ | 22:01 |
| daneyon_ | Daneyon Hansen | 22:01 |
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| eghobo | o/ | 22:01 |
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| thomasem | o/ | 22:02 |
| thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 22:02 |
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| adrian_otto | Revised agenda: | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-08-11_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | hello thomasem, eghobo, daneyon_, dane_leblanc, yuanying-alt, Tango|2, bradjones, hongbin, and apmelton | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:05 |
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| adrian_otto | Reminder adrian_otto will be out on 2015-08-25 due to travel to OpenStack Silicon Valley event. An alternate chair is needed. | 22:06 |
| vilobhmm | Vilobh Meshram | 22:06 |
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| adrian_otto | helo vilobhmm | 22:06 |
| vilobhmm | hi adrian_otto | 22:06 |
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| suro-patz | o/ | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | hello suro-patz | 22:07 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: is sdake available to chair that meeting? | 22:07 |
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| sdake | yo | 22:07 |
| tcammann1 | hello | 22:07 |
| sdake | available yes | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | sdake, can you chair on 8/25? | 22:07 |
| hongbin | k | 22:07 |
| sdake | apologies for being late ;) | 22:07 |
| sdake | thanks for pinging me | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed sdake will chair on 2015-08-25 | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements form team members? | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | *from | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Container Networking Subteam Update (daneyon_) | 22:08 |
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| mfalatic | o/ (network problems today) | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | welcome mfalatic | 22:08 |
| daneyon_ | not much new from the midcycle | 22:08 |
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| daneyon_ | most cores provided a +2 to the network spec | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | we will review key takeaways from the midcycle further down in today's agenda | 22:09 |
| daneyon_ | tcammann1 has concerns | 22:09 |
| tcammann1 | :/ | 22:09 |
| daneyon_ | it owuld be helpful if the core's can come to an agreement on the direction and i will update the spec accordingly | 22:09 |
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| daneyon_ | i can understand where tcammann1 | 22:10 |
| daneyon_ | is coming from | 22:10 |
| eghobo | daneyon_: could you share link to your slides | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | ok, should we discuss now, or should we advance the agenda? | 22:10 |
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| tcammann1 | We usually run out of time, now would be better | 22:10 |
| daneyon_ | maybe in the short-term (as noted in the spec), we focus on exposing params until we figure out the label thing | 22:10 |
| tcammann1 | Or reschedule a discussion | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-07-30-18.00.html Previous Meeting | 22:10 |
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| adrian_otto | tcammann1: okay, please summarize the substance of your concern for discussion | 22:11 |
| daneyon_ | eghobo here is a link to the midcycle slides http://www.slideshare.net/daneyonhansen/magnum-networking-update | 22:11 |
| eghobo | thx | 22:11 |
| tcammann1 | Read: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204686/11/specs/container-networking-model.rst | 22:11 |
| tcammann1 | my comments | 22:11 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto maybe it's best for you to lead a ML discussion to reach a consensus | 22:12 |
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| daneyon_ | and proceed with today's irc meeting | 22:12 |
| sdake | ml discussion may be helpful although I think we can sort it out in the review | 22:12 |
| tcammann1 | the jist of it is that I believe its a bad idea to use a metadata field for real API values which affect Magnum's internals | 22:12 |
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| sdake | ya we sort of went around on this problem at the midcycle | 22:12 |
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| sdake | and didn't have any clear consensus on it | 22:12 |
| tcammann1 | Keep it in the review for now | 22:13 |
| sdake | I believe we agreed that some common values should be parameters | 22:13 |
| daneyon_ | sdake the review will work too. | 22:13 |
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| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to use ML discussion to drive consensus on networking spec | 22:13 |
| daneyon_ | sdake... correct | 22:13 |
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| adrian_otto | any more on networking for today? | 22:13 |
| daneyon_ | it's difficult to ID the exact params until i work through the use case of extracting flannel from TL templates | 22:14 |
| daneyon_ | i have an idea of some params, i can put some general language about the label/param split | 22:14 |
| tcammann1 | Works for me :) | 22:14 |
| daneyon_ | tcammann1 re: works for me. do you mean you will +2 with the general language of params/label split? | 22:14 |
| eghobo | +1 daneyon_, tcammann1 I think we should do just label for one release or two | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | I have not abstained from voting, just underwater temporarily. | 22:15 |
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| eghobo | and cleanup/standardise them after that | 22:15 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto no worries. sounds like the group would prefer feedback in the review instead of a ML thread. I'll let y'all make the call | 22:16 |
| sdake | eghobo voice of reason - makes sense - once we know what they are | 22:16 |
| tcammann1 | If you updated the language around params and labels, yes. I don't expect you to list all the params | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | #undo | 22:16 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones) | 22:16 |
| daneyon_ | ok, so it sounds like we have a path fwd | 22:16 |
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| sdake | i'm certain brad is fast asleep atm | 22:16 |
| daneyon_ | i will update the spec to include language around the params/label split. | 22:17 |
| bradjones | sdake: nope :D | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | brad was awake at roll call | 22:17 |
| sdake | oh | 22:17 |
| * sdake runs :) | 22:17 | |
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| bradjones | I have added a bunch of BPs | 22:17 |
| tcammann1 | cool, thanks daneyon_ :) | 22:17 |
| daneyon_ | any other core's have issues with the spec? speak now or forever hold your peace ;-) | 22:17 |
| bradjones | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui | 22:17 |
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| adrian_otto | We got a visit from the Horizon team at our Midcycle | 22:17 |
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| adrian_otto | we expect to have a web UI during Liberty | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | Brad agreed to start giving us weekly updates on that | 22:17 |
| bradjones | I have assigned myself to ones relating to bay model and targeted those at l3 | 22:17 |
| bradjones | If someone else is able to pick up the ones related to bay and work along side me, we could possible get that in too before liberty closes | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | Thai Tran volunteered to putting in the skeleton of a horizon plugin | 22:18 |
| bradjones | I met with Thai last week | 22:18 |
| bradjones | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211750/ the initial skeleton repo is here | 22:18 |
| bradjones | I need to fix a few issues with jenkins and add some skeleton Angular bits then that will be good to merge | 22:18 |
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| bradjones | I expect to have first revision of my bay model patches out by end of the week | 22:19 |
| bradjones | so overall making good progress :) | 22:19 |
| tcammann1 | nice, bradjones | 22:20 |
| daneyon_ | bradjones right on!!! | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | from there we expect that putting the panes on that would be an achievable effort measured in days not weeks | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | bradjones: does that track with your expectations? | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | thomasem: you expressed interest | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | !! whoot !! | 22:20 |
| openstack | adrian_otto: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 22:20 |
| bradjones | adrian_otto: yeah I expect to move pretty quickly | 22:21 |
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| adrian_otto | We are sure there will be a Magnum session at Tokyo, so we'd love to be showing that. | 22:21 |
| sdake | i think there i ssome leg work to do on that review adrian_otto first | 22:21 |
| thomasem | adrian_otto: I am interested in the UI for this. I am hoping to be available for reviews, however, I don't have bandwidth at the moment for the additional work, unfortunately. As is the case that I'm always sorry to say. | 22:22 |
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| adrian_otto | any more on magnum-ui? | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | 1) sdake/tcammann to sync up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay at MidCycle | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | Status: | 22:22 |
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| sdake | bradjones is it couple days per pane type of effort? | 22:22 |
| sdake | failed | 22:22 |
| sdake | but we got drunk together | 22:22 |
| tcammann1 | haha, we got close | 22:22 |
| tcammann1 | I mean to discussing it.. | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | should we revise the action? | 22:22 |
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| bradjones | sdake: I should think 2-3 days to put something together that is in a reviewable state yes | 22:23 |
| sdake | needs a main summit track session | 22:23 |
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| adrian_otto | sdake: ? what topic? | 22:23 |
| sdake | adrian_otto so the action is to target it to tokyo | 22:23 |
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| tcammann1 | I think its a sticky issue. Agree with sdake, a summit session would be good | 22:23 |
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| sdake | in the non-labeled tracks at ODS in tokyo | 22:24 |
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| adrian_otto | design summit | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | not main summit | 22:24 |
| sdake | roger | 22:24 |
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| adrian_otto | 10/4 | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | do we want an action to sync before that, or defer | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | no answer, so I am assigning it to you again | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | #action sdake/tcammann to sync up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay | 22:25 |
| sdake | defer - nothing is going to happen on it - i'm swamped and i think tom is working on the template jinja2 thing | 22:25 |
| tcammann1 | defer it. Probably need to move the bp out of this release | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | #undo | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, undone. | 22:25 |
| sdake | sorry really laggy today for some reason | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | 2) adrian_otto to open tech debt ticket to remove insecure option | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | decided not to do this. Justified by need for debugging/dev setups. | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | discussed at midcycle. Team consensus. If you disagree, see me to debate. | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | 3) apmelton to review snakeoil plugin and assist madhuri with integration | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | Status: | 22:26 |
| apmelton | we talked about this at the mid-cycle, snakeoil plugin currently won't support what we need | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | Status: overtaken by events | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review | 22:27 |
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| adrian_otto | New Blueprints for Discussion | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | Team members may nominate new blueprints for discussion so they may be processed. | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | (any nominated for consideration?) | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | this is late in the cycle, so I will stop polling for these soon | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprint Updates | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | please see: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-08-11_2200_UTC section Essential Blueprint Updates | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | sdake, madhuri, Tango|2, apmelton Any updates? | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | we will touch on TLS in a moment | 22:29 |
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| Tango|2 | I haven't heard back fron Angus Lees. I have been out in the last few days also after the midcycle | 22:30 |
| Tango|2 | But I am working on 2 addtional patches to round out the support needed from Magnum | 22:30 |
| sdake | adrian_otto pls ping me if you get to open items - my internet is terribl atm and I want to talk about our governance tag | 22:30 |
| Tango|2 | The rest is debugging the k8s backend | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | Blueprints for administrative action | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-service-list Add service list to magnum (suro-patz) | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | Status: Proposal is to close this as won't fix, as we did not get a strong requirement from the ML-follow-up, | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070165.html | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | I adjusted the BP | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | if anyone feels strongly, follow up in the whiteboard of that BP | 22:32 |
| suro-patz | We have reached consensus on what to be done | 22:32 |
| suro-patz | I am about to start implementation | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | thanks suro-patz | 22:32 |
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| sdake | overloaded - the consensus was what? | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Midcycle Summary | 22:33 |
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| sdake | confused by the "close as wont fix" vs "ready to start implementation" | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-liberty-midcycle-topics Midcycle Notes | 22:33 |
| suro-patz | consensus was to implement 'coe-service-list' and 'service-list' separately. This has been captured on the BP sdake: | 22:33 |
| sdake | cool | 22:34 |
| sdake | that wfm | 22:34 |
| tcammann1 | I think we identified that it would be good to have 'nova like' service list | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | bay-service-list | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | but this is details we can discuss offline | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | conceptually we did agree | 22:34 |
| sdake | just got confused by the closed wont fix statement | 22:34 |
| tcammann1 | same :) | 22:34 |
| suro-patz | sdake: The agenda was set before the midcycle. | 22:34 |
| sdake | my irc is coming in 10 line chunks | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so we held the midcycle last week | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | see the etherpad link for notes | 22:35 |
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| adrian_otto | biggest topics were TLS, Networking, and Web UI | 22:35 |
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| adrian_otto | I heard from Madhuri yesterday | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | She switched employers from NEC to Intel, and will continue work on Magnum. She was traveling during the Midcycle so she could not participate. | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | Murali has joined the Magnum team and has confirmed we are using the v3 keystone API now, and is plumbing us for trusts to assist with the TLS implementation | 22:37 |
| sdake | sweet | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | this will allow for secure scoped communication from bay nodes to the magnum API for the purpose of singing/fetching TLS keypairs | 22:37 |
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| adrian_otto | apmelton is also helping | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | tcammann1 has been advising. | 22:38 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: do you have madhuri's new email? | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | current plan of record is to implement Anchor as a library to allow a single line of code in magnum to produce sighed TLS cert/key | 22:38 |
| apmelton | I need to sync with her on where I can help, but I don't see her online | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: not yet. It might take a couple of days for that. | 22:38 |
| sdake | i dont have her new work email and also don't hae a personal email for her, but can contact her on linkedin pamelton | 22:38 |
| sdake | you want me to relay a message? | 22:39 |
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| apmelton | sdake: see if you have have her reach out to me at andrew.melton@rackspace.com | 22:39 |
| sdake | will do right now | 22:39 |
| apmelton | in the mean time I'll start working on updating the template | 22:39 |
| apmelton | that should be sufficiently removed that I don't clash with anything she may be working on | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | on the subject of networking daneyon gave an overview talk, and Mohammed from the kuryr project also presented | 22:40 |
| apmelton | the template changes* | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | these ideas are surfaced in the container networking spec mentioned earlier in our agenda | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | basically use libnetwork to communicate with existing remote drivers, and devleop remote drivers for openstack integration | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | there are gaps in terms of how to deal with issues like identity trust | 22:41 |
| sdake | apmelton message relayed | 22:41 |
| apmelton | much appreciated sdake | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | if you are interested, check our kuryr and join the magnum containers networking subteam | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | stauts of magnum Web UI was mentioned earlier in today's agenda | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | good discussions on auto-scaling | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | any questions? | 22:42 |
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| adrian_otto | (pausing due to IRC latency) | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:44 |
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| adrian_otto | sdake: ping | 22:44 |
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| sdake | yar | 22:44 |
| sdake | so we list our governance repo as allowing our project to release whenever we please | 22:44 |
| vilobhmm | adrian_otto, sdake, tcammann1 : If its ok with you, I would like to work on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay …I have prior experience of working with object layer and have contributed code in nova, cinder for the same. If its ok with you, depending on the progress is made in upcoming week we can decide what to do with the bp. I can co-ordinate with sdake about what his vision was about this blueprint and star | 22:44 |
| sdake | yet we are releasing on l1/l2/l3 cycle and tagging at end of liberty | 22:44 |
| sdake | after liberty may make more sense to go to a different release schedule if we desire | 22:45 |
| sdake | the good thing about l1/l2/l3 is they are 1 month windows | 22:45 |
| sdake | which is a good sprint size for a team our size | 22:45 |
| sdake | first size/length | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | vilobhmm: take ownership of the blueprint, and discuss with other stakeholders. | 22:46 |
| sdake | vilobhmm wfm but its very complicated ;) | 22:46 |
| sdake | so my wall of text was to kick of a discussion | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: we can conform to the integrated release schedule | 22:47 |
| sdake | not seeing that ;0 | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | the current designation allows for that | 22:47 |
| vilobhmm | adrian_otto : sure…sdake : lets see :) | 22:47 |
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| sdake | agree its more flexible | 22:47 |
| sdake | maybe this is better had on the ml | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | once we deliver consistently on that schedule, we can adjust formally to toggle the goveranance tag for releases | 22:48 |
| sdake | i like that course of action adrian_otto | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | but I agree we should aim for conformance, and I can do a better job of following that. | 22:49 |
| tcammann1 | I think deadlines with our releases are a good thing | 22:49 |
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| sdake | i have been trying to stay on strct schedue lwith kolla and i can tell you it is very difficult because our gate is imperfect | 22:49 |
| hongbin | I have a question | 22:49 |
| sdake | magnum has bettr gating but not much :) | 22:50 |
| hongbin | what is the plan after l3, are we going to freeze or continue to land features? | 22:50 |
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| sdake | our governance allows us to land features | 22:50 |
| sdake | but i think we should stick with what works | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | we are not required to freeze | 22:50 |
| hongbin | good to know | 22:50 |
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| sdake | a different tag is required to freeze | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | and considering we don't yet have the burden of production deployments of Magnum… should continue landing features | 22:51 |
| tcammann1 | Freeze would be bad in an early stage of the project | 22:51 |
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| hongbin | Agree | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | but I will defer to the core reviewer team to pick some work to intentionally defer if it makes sense | 22:51 |
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| sdake | even the 6mo tag allows feature landing with FFE at PTL's discretion | 22:52 |
| sdake | only if the release is handled by the release team is FFE a PITA | 22:52 |
| sdake | those are really for super core projects like nova neutron keystone etc | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | so we may compassionately -2 some patches (temporarily) | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | so that's a middle ground between FFE and the wild west. | 22:52 |
| sdake | wfm | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | we did that in the last release cycle on a very small number of contributions | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | and later merged them | 22:53 |
| sdake | cool well i'm glad we sorted that out now :) | 22:53 |
| manjeets_ | question here on freeze ? | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | here is the guideline: If you have features that are in scope for prioritized blueprints, we will plan to merge that work | 22:54 |
| manjeets_ | will the proxy-blueprint patch be merged if its working fine or will be delayed for later merge | 22:54 |
| manjeets_ | ? | 22:54 |
| tcammann1 | we aren't having a freeze | 22:54 |
| manjeets_ | lok | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | if you have work that's not defect remediation, and adds features that are not scoped in prioritized blueprints scoped for Liberty, then we may refrain from merging that | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | and that will be up to the discretion of the core review team | 22:55 |
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| adrian_otto | basically we should feel there is no risk to including something that's arriving during those final weeks of Liberty | 22:56 |
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| adrian_otto | does that sound fair to all of you? | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | manjeets_: that's a minor change, and we would agree to merge it | 22:56 |
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| manjeets_ | ok thanks | 22:57 |
| sdake | even mature projects merge after freeze | 22:57 |
| sdake | only blueprints require ffe, bugs dont | 22:57 |
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| adrian_otto | right, if you are fixing a bug, then we will merge that work | 22:57 |
| sdake | sounds like we may even merge blueprints ;) | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | we may ask that the bug be properly verified first | 22:58 |
| manjeets_ | ffe ? | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | only a few minutes remaining | 22:58 |
| Tango|2 | feature freeze extension | 22:58 |
| sdake | feature freeze exception | 22:58 |
| manjeets_ | thanks | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | our next team meeting will be on 2015-08-18 at 1600 UTC. | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today. | 22:59 |
| tcammann1 | feature freeze exuberance | 22:59 |
| thomasem | Take it easy! | 22:59 |
| sdake | there are all kinds of words that begin with e;) | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 11 22:59:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-08-11-22.01.html | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-08-11-22.01.txt | 22:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-08-11-22.01.log.html | 22:59 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:59 |
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| manjeets_ | have a great evening every one | 23:00 |
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