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| rkukura | Hi ML2’ers! | 15:59 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 15:59 |
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| yamahata | hello | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 19 16:01:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | Welcome to the ML2 weekly meeting | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | The FF for liberty is fast approaching - so, be watchfu | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | watchful | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | I do not have any other announcements - does anybody else have any? | 16:03 |
| rkukura | I’m hoping to finsh up the DVR code/schema cleanup patches before FF, and would appreciate reviews when ready | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: let us know when you push the patches | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: OK, thanks | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from pervious weeks | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | there was an action item for rkukura and Sukhdev to organize the agenda around the summits/release | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: do you have any thoughts around it? | 16:06 |
| rkukura | haven’t had a chance to work on it | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | Did you mean to include Mitaka release as well summit related agenda | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | I was just thinking we’d track whatever goals for mitaka we are working on, such as the async stuff, etc. | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | OK - lets discuss this off-line | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: Oh I see - we already have that on the agenda | 16:08 |
| rkukura | you’ve got all this covered in this weeks, I think | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | There is another action item - to finalize the plans for late-cycle sprint | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: have you had a chance to follow up with the others to nail down the logictics? | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | so that folks can plan accordingly | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | not yet, sorry - I’ll get on that this week | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: good - thanks | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | anybody has anything to add to this? | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: L3 Blueprints - | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": L3 Blueprints - (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:12 | |
| Sukhdev | This is as an FYI on the agenda | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | there are few ML2 related Bps in the list | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | feel free to review/follow up with the authors | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | since shivharris and asoumya are not here, I am going to skip over the physical topology discussion | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: have you heard any progress from Arvind? ' | 16:14 |
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| rkukura | no - I think I was supposed to contact him, but haven’t - will this week | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | he mentioned they were planning on making a submittal for Tokyo summit | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | OK - in that case, lets move along with the agenda | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: driver API for SecurityGroup | 16:15 |
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| yamamoto | i added it | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: yes, please take the stage - | 16:16 |
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| yamamoto | ml2 assumes rpc/agent-based security group implementatin and the md interface lacks relevant operations. | 16:17 |
| yamamoto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1444112 | 16:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444112 in networking-odl "ML2 security groups only work with agent drivers" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kyle Mestery (mestery) | 16:17 |
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| yamamoto | it's workarounded by using callbacks. | 16:18 |
| yamamoto | but it's nicer to have more proper md interface for sg. | 16:18 |
| yamamoto | how do you think? | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: would you like to see a more like a two-way handshake based interface? | 16:19 |
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| yamamoto | sure, usual pre/postcommit api would be good, at least for consistent reasons. | 16:20 |
| rkukura | yamahata: I think SG flexibiltiy for MDs should be a goal for mitaka | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | This is an interesting case where we need to guarantee that at least one MD is enforcing the SGs for every port binding, even with hierarchical bindings and heterogeneous deployments. | 16:21 |
| rkukura | It also may be worth thinking about whether this needs a SG-specific mechanism, or something more general that could do the same for other extensions. | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | shall we consider proposing a design session in Tokyo for this? | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: do you have any thought around it? | 16:24 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I’m in favor of that, but it would be most valuable if there were a concrete proposal to discuss. | 16:24 |
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| yamamoto | sure. i don't have a concrete proposal. just "wondering". | 16:25 |
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| yamamoto | rkukura: do you have any example of other extensions? | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: why don't we take an action to think about it and see what can we come up with? | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: I think QoS and port security are both implemented as extension drivers in ML2. Not sure if QoS involves agent RPCs. | 16:26 |
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| yamamoto | currently extension drivers can merely add attributes to core resources, right? | 16:27 |
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| yamamoto | ie. not new CRUD ops | 16:28 |
| rkukura | yamamoto: right - new resources require service plugins | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | We’ve talked a bit about enforcing semantics for extension drivers (as followup work to what’s there now), and maybe this is similar but for other resources. | 16:29 |
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| yamamoto | rkukura: sg vs address-pairs vs port-sec thing? | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | so, how is the front-end implemented for security-group CRUD operations? | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | Port security just extends core resources, but SGs are separate resources. I think QoS does both. I’d like to come up with a scheme where ML2 port binding ensures the semantics required by the values of these sorts of extensions are provided. | 16:32 |
| yamamoto | Sukhdev: front-end? | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: I mean who implements the security-group CLI? | 16:33 |
| rkukura | I think the SG API and DB layers are built into neutron, aren’t they? | 16:33 |
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| yamamoto | Sukhdev: are you talking about python-neutronclient etc? | 16:34 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: yes they are | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: the next layer - down from python-neutronclient - i.e. is it processed by a service plugin or who? | 16:34 |
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| yamamoto | Sukhdev: it's handled by plugins like ml2. ml2 currently just passes them to securitygroups_db though. | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | I am thinking that may be the point to look into perhaps figure out a way to tie it into ML2 core plugin | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | Does the ML2 core plugin actually handle CRUD for SG APIs? I thought these were separate. | 16:38 |
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| yamamoto | my understanding is ml2 -> SecurityGroupServerRpcMixin -> SecurityGroupDbMixin | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: that is the answer I am looking for :-) | 16:38 |
| rkukura | OK, was just tracking that down | 16:39 |
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| rkukura | So ML2 could intercept these calls and call the MDs during precommit and/or postcommit | 16:39 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: yup - that is the way I am thinking - hence, was asking those questions | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | that will give yamamoto what he is looking for - however, this will require some investtigation | 16:40 |
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| rkukura | So that would provide a cleaner way for MDs to observe the SG CRUD operations that using the notifications, but it doesn’t address ensuring that SGs are being properly enforced. | 16:41 |
| yamamoto | isn't it reasonable to say an MD which has leaf binding of the port is responsible to enforce SG? | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: perhaps | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | I think it is worth thinking through - | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | perhaps we can discuss it further next week and have some more ideas and see if we build a reasonable proposal that make sense to present at design summit? | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | does it make sense? | 16:48 |
| yamamoto | and ideally rpc stuff should be moved out from core ml2. probably into an MD like l2pop? | 16:48 |
| yamamoto | Sukhdev: sure | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: I'll keep this on agenda for next week. would you be willing to lead this topic next week? | 16:50 |
| yamamoto | Sukhdev: sure | 16:50 |
| rkukura | its not always the bottom-most MD - SGs might be enforced in a switch | 16:50 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: is there such a implementation? | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: are you sure about it? how would you deal with the VM migrations then? | 16:51 |
| rkukura | Cisco APIC does this | 16:51 |
| yamamoto | it's interesting. | 16:52 |
| yamamoto | anyway let's move on. <10 mins left. | 16:52 |
| rkukura | Or can do it, there is also the opflex agent on the host that can enforce policy, but that should be optional | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I guess as long as at least one MD enforces it (kind of like at least one MD has to bind the port) - perhaps that might do it | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | moving right along - | 16:54 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: agreed | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: modular l2 agent & macvtap | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran is not here - but, he has posted the summary on the agenda | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | I hope everybody has had a chance to review it - | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | I kind of like their approach | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | since scheuran is not here, do not know if there is anything we want to discuss | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1468803,n,z | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | review the patches posted by the above link | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this topic? | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:57 |
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| Sukhdev | We managed to get to Open Discussion without running out of time :-) | 16:57 |
| yamahata | hello. regarding to ML2 plugin sync, is there PoC code? or document only? | 16:57 |
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| yamahata | I mean https://docs.google.com/document/d/17fATwZkJEonH0pIb1-mPD0UB5RKnJzcHYqkBesJhirE/edit?pli=1 | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: there is POC code available | 16:58 |
| yamahata | Very cool. link? I couldn:t find it. | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: I reviewed it a while back | 16:58 |
| * Sukhdev looking | 16:58 | |
| yamahata | btw, I could find task flow patch. | 16:58 |
| rkukura | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154333/ | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: thanks you beat me to it :-) | 17:00 |
| yamahata | thanks. | 17:00 |
| rkukura | Just searched our massive agenda page ;) | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: will you be joining us for the sprint? | 17:00 |
| yamahata | I'm planning to do so. | 17:00 |
| yamahata | Should I register myself at etherpad? | 17:00 |
| rkukura | yamahata: yes, please | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: great - please read the specs, the code, and reach out to rkukura, manishg or myself | 17:01 |
| yamahata | rkukura: sure. | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | folks we are out of time | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:01 |
| yamamoto | bye | 17:01 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 19 17:01:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-08-19-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-08-19-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-08-19-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 17:01 |
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| amrith | . | 18:02 |
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| mvandijk_ | \_o_/ | 18:02 |
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| amrith | is there anybody out there? | 18:03 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 19 18:03:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
| peterstac | ~\o/~ | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:03 |
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| dloi | o/ | 18:03 |
| schang | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | I'll assume that slicknik will be here shortly and can take over | 18:03 |
| georgelorch | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | let's all say hello till then, I see he put an agenda up so I'm sure he intends to have a meeting | 18:03 |
| amrith | Well, hello George! | 18:04 |
| amrith | to the rest of you ... "hi" | 18:04 |
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| pmalik_ | .// | 18:04 |
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| ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:05 |
| * amrith waves at georgelorch | 18:05 | |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:05 |
| openstack | SlickNik: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 18:05 |
| amrith | go ahead SlickNik | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | whoops | 18:06 |
| amrith | i kicked it off | 18:06 |
| amrith | I could end it and you could restart | 18:06 |
| amrith | if that's better | 18:06 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, hello! | 18:06 |
| cp16net | hello | 18:06 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | amrith: No worries — you can drive since you started it! :) | 18:06 |
| amrith | awwww crap | 18:07 |
| amrith | let's get started | 18:07 |
| amrith | agenda 1. penalty for people who showed up late ;) | 18:07 |
| cp16net | or early... | 18:07 |
| amrith | #topic Trove Pulse Update (from SlickNik) | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | depends on how you think abou tit :-P | 18:07 |
| amrith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | way fewer reviews this last week | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | 91 as opposed to our usual average of ~140 | 18:09 |
| cp16net | true... | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | So we need to step it up a notch. :) | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | So that we're in good shape for liberty-3 which is in a couple of weeks. | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | Any other questions or comments. | 18:11 |
| amrith | would be good to get everyone to look at reviews more closely this week ahead of mid-cycle next week | 18:11 |
| amrith | we'll all be tied up there for much of the week and maybe we could set aside some time to talk about some of the more 'long lived' reviews | 18:12 |
| * amrith wonders whether he'll get a +1 for the diplomatic use of 'long lived'. | 18:12 | |
| cp16net | yeah we need to be mindful of the priority | 18:12 |
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| amrith | that may be a great seague to the next topic | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: Yes, that's what some of the hacking sessions are intended for. | 18:13 |
| amrith | if there are no further questions on this one ... | 18:13 |
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| amrith | . | 18:13 |
| amrith | . | 18:13 |
| amrith | #topic Trove Liberty-3 BP priorities | 18:14 |
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| amrith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveLibertyPriorities | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | ^ This is the list of what we're trying to get merged in before Liberty-3 feature freeze. | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | in priority order (more or less). | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | I see someone annotating the reviews on that page with the project — thanks for that! | 18:15 |
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| SlickNik | Please let me know if I've missed anything that you want to land for Liberty, that you think is on track, that is not on the list. | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik I added a couple of reviews that were missing | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | dougshelley66: awesome thanks. | 18:16 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, will sushilkm be at mid-cycle? | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | amrith: unfortunately he will not. | 18:17 |
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| amrith | OK, he's been pinging me about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214510/ so I put it on the agenda (assumed he'd be there). | 18:18 |
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| amrith | I guess we could still talk about it | 18:18 |
| amrith | if it isn't done by then (which I don't think it will be). | 18:18 |
| amrith | Any other major themes that people find to be missing in that etherpad? | 18:19 |
| amrith | Please take a minute to look at it now. | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | Yes — we should discuss it. Maybe we can do it on IRC before then (if not at the mid-cycle). | 18:19 |
| dloi | do we need the related horizon bits to land as well? | 18:19 |
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| peterstac | dloi, that would make sense - can you add it to the etherpad? | 18:20 |
| cp16net | i think it would be a good idea to strive for them to get in | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | dloi: For some of these we might be closer to landing the horizon bits than others, but it would be good if we can land them in time as well. | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | peterstac: +1 | 18:21 |
| cp16net | not sure how horizon follows the same freeze | 18:21 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: do you know ^^? | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | would be awesome if you can add the horizon reviews to the page as well. | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: They do. | 18:22 |
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| cp16net | i assumed so | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: so we wouldn't be able to add new features (eg. new panel after the freeze) but we could still fix bugs. | 18:22 |
| cp16net | k | 18:22 |
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| cp16net | then yeah we should work on getting those done as well | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | dloi: Can you work on getting the relevant horizon patches added to that list? Let's review them, and then we can ping some of the horizon cores to take a look as well. | 18:23 |
| amrith | other thoughts ... | 18:24 |
| amrith | are we missing any other major sections? | 18:24 |
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| SlickNik | I already see it showing up — so thanks dloi! | 18:24 |
| dloi | SlickNik: I've added it to the etherpad | 18:25 |
| vkmc | yup, the more +1 we get from Trove side in Horizon, the earlier they are going to look into it | 18:25 |
| amrith | vkmc, pete (are you there), are there specific things you'd like to add? | 18:25 |
| amrith | I see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211791/ but are there others? | 18:26 |
| vkmc | no, the only thing I've been working is the MariaDB driver | 18:26 |
| vkmc | which I hope I can push for review today or tomorrow | 18:26 |
| vkmc | and its in the list | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | vkmc: once we have the driver review, can you also add it to that list please? | 18:27 |
| vkmc | SlickNik, sure thing | 18:27 |
| SlickNik | Awesome. Thanks! I'd like to get eyes on that as soon as we can. | 18:27 |
| amrith | any more thoughs? | 18:27 |
| vkmc | sweet :) | 18:28 |
| amrith | going once | 18:28 |
| amrith | . | 18:28 |
| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:28 |
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| amrith | anybody | 18:28 |
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| amrith | (other than me that is, I have one) | 18:29 |
| amrith | ok, I'll go. | 18:29 |
| amrith | SlickNik, a request re: the mid-cycle agenda | 18:29 |
| amrith | would it be possible to change the Wednesday 13:30 event (clustering) and interchange it with the next one (hacking session) | 18:30 |
| * SlickNik pulls up the schedule | 18:30 | |
| cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveLibertySprint | 18:30 |
| amrith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveLibertySprint | 18:30 |
| amrith | wow, great minds and all that | 18:31 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:31 |
| cp16net | amrith: is there a reasoning for swapping them? | 18:31 |
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| amrith | cp16net, yes | 18:31 |
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| cp16net | care to elaborate? | 18:32 |
| amrith | dougshelley66 and I have a date with someone. | 18:32 |
| cp16net | ah | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | double date. | 18:32 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:32 |
| amrith | actually we have a salesguy with us as well | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: you're going to be driving a lot of the MySQL clustering discussion —are you okay with the schedule swap? | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | i'm fine with it | 18:32 |
| amrith | thanks cp16net SlickNik | 18:32 |
| cp16net | just curious why since we usually do the hacking sessions toward the end | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | sounds like a plan to me | 18:33 |
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| amrith | ok, thanks. that was my first question. | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | Sounds good to me as well. | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | I've had another request as well. | 18:34 |
| amrith | go for it | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | Folks wanted the Thu 18:00 Presentation Karaoke session switched out for real Karaoke!?! | 18:35 |
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| * amrith wonders whether that is question or a statement | 18:35 | |
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| ashleighfarnham | i thought we confirmed that last week | 18:36 |
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| SlickNik | So I'm trying to figure out the details on that — a lot if involves finding venues which might be amenable to one or the other. | 18:36 |
| amrith | oh crap, I missed the discussion ;) | 18:36 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I'm sure you have tons to do. So let's not sweat it too much. Maybe just find a nice pub | 18:36 |
| cp16net | i'm down for drinks | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | oh this was contingent on edmondk and/or ashleighfarnham finding a good karaoke place (which also serves drinks) nearby. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | so will keep the schedule up to date! | 18:38 |
| cp16net | i think i owe a few people a drink or 2 :-P | 18:38 |
| amrith | ... everyone turns to look at ashleighfarnham (edmondk isn't here) ... | 18:38 |
| ashleighfarnham | i found one last week. | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | Ah ashleighfarnham - send me email and we'll make it happen! :) | 18:39 |
| ashleighfarnham | ok | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | thanks! | 18:40 |
| SlickNik | That's all I had. | 18:40 |
| amrith | ashleighfarnham, did you find a place for karaoke or presentation karaoke? | 18:40 |
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| amrith | i.e. do I need to get more presentations together? | 18:40 |
| amrith | I suggest that Nikhil should still do the presentation I made for him ;) | 18:40 |
| SlickNik | amrith: actual karaoke, so you're off the hook. | 18:40 |
| ashleighfarnham | @amrith Was mostly thinking karaoke. I can see if I can find somewhere for presentation karaoke | 18:40 |
| amrith | ok | 18:40 |
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| amrith | sounds good | 18:41 |
| amrith | next topic ... | 18:41 |
| * SlickNik is still willing to do the deck | 18:41 | |
| SlickNik | at some point | 18:41 |
| amrith | ... open discussion ... | 18:41 |
| amrith | going once | 18:41 |
| amrith | . | 18:41 |
| amrith | . | 18:42 |
| * SlickNik suggests that the penalty for being late to the meeting involve some form of drinks at the mid-cycle :) | 18:42 | |
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| amrith | #action SlickNik to pay penalty at mid-cycle | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | lol | 18:42 |
| amrith | Thanks everybody. | 18:42 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 19 18:42:53 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-08-19-18.03.html | 18:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-08-19-18.03.txt | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | Thanks amrith! | 18:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-08-19-18.03.log.html | 18:42 |
| vkmc | :) thanks guys | 18:43 |
| cp16net | lol thanks | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | especially thanks for the action! | 18:43 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 19 20:00:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #chair johnsom blogan | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan johnsom xgerman | 20:00 |
| bharath | o/ | 20:00 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 20:00 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy folks! | 20:00 |
| abdelwas | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | hi | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:01 |
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| xgerman | I am plagued by plumbing problems so might need to step out and talk to the plumbers | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| blogan_ | hi | 20:02 |
| johnsom | You need Donkey Kong to throw barrels at them... | 20:02 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | with Neutron proliferating into so many projects we put a huge load on infra so | 20:02 |
| xgerman | so dougwig proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212622/6/doc/source/devref/infra.rst | 20:02 |
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| rm_work | o/ | 20:03 |
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| blogan_ | sounds like infra's got a plumbing problem too | 20:03 |
| TrevorV | o/ sorry is late | 20:03 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:03 |
| johnsom | lol | 20:03 |
| rm_work | surround your house with more carnivorous plants | 20:03 |
| xgerman | so for us we need to get dougwig’s +1 before infa looks at it | 20:03 |
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| xgerman | if dougwig is here he can elaboaret | 20:04 |
| blogan_ | dougwig's approval is hard to come by | 20:04 |
| xgerman | yep, he will be even more a bottleneck | 20:04 |
| blogan_ | i think he's at the ops meetup so probably not paying attention | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Yeah, and ask dougwig the infra questions before bothering the folks in the infra channel | 20:05 |
| xgerman | yeah, anyhow don’t ask in the infra channel for +2 until you have dougwig’s +! | 20:05 |
| xgerman | johnsom +! | 20:05 |
| blogan_ | noted | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:05 |
| xgerman | johnsom anything from GSLB worth mentioning/ | 20:05 |
| xgerman | ? | 20:05 |
| johnsom | They are working on some architecture diagrams | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | Did y'all pick a new name yet? ;) | 20:06 |
| xgerman | we celebrated Cosmos last week :-) | 20:06 |
| xgerman | Kosmos | 20:06 |
| johnsom | They(we I should say) are also looking at some contributed code called "polaris" as a start to health monitoring for GSLB | 20:06 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: Yes, I know, and pointed out how you're definitely going to run into trademark issues with that. But eh... whatever. Not my project, eh. | 20:07 |
| xgerman | yeah | 20:07 |
| * blogan_ votes sbalukoff official openstack trademark validater | 20:07 | |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:07 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff is discovering his lawyer side by working for IBM | 20:07 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: If only you knew. I | 20:08 |
| minwang2 | hahaha | 20:08 |
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| madhu_ak | heh | 20:08 |
| xgerman | more announcements? | 20:08 |
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| sbalukoff | 've spent a good portion of the last week finally going through new employee orientation stuff (couldn't put it off any longer) and otherwise navigating the internal vagaries of the company. | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Not from me! | 20:08 |
| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:08 | |
| dougwig | Fyi, there are three infra liasions, not just me. :) | 20:09 |
| blogan_ | dougwig you're ours | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Not anything substantial from me this week. I hope to correct that by next week. :P | 20:09 |
| xgerman | L7? | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Oh, but we want to give you the love dougwig | 20:09 |
| * dougwig blushes | 20:09 | |
| johnsom | Something about all of those "octavia bug" comments.... | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I should have a new patch for that later this week / early next week. Sorry! | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | nice! | 20:10 |
| TrevorV | Progress: With some help from johnsom and blogan_ I've got a near complete Failover. | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | Yeah, bana_k has been submitting a lot of those. That's great! | 20:10 |
| blogan_ | i'm working on addressing xgerman's comments on this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209210 | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Rad! | 20:10 |
| bana_k | unit tests done , | 20:10 |
| johnsom | I have been working on getting the health manager setup with an oslo config file and wiring it up to startup, etc | 20:10 |
| bharath | I finished including DB Cleanup, in addition to Spare Amphora, under HouseKeeping.. Tested it on devstack and works fine... | 20:10 |
| bana_k | testing the application | 20:10 |
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| minwang2 | i got a +1 from dougwig for my octavia gate setting, but still need another +2 from infra team https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211319/ | 20:10 |
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| bana_k | need to do more | 20:10 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: but i think doing another review with only test to get the full coverage you want would be ideal instead of putting it in this one bc that makes sense as a separate review to shore up test coverage | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Mostly a lot of testing for health manager now. Next up is aligning the status messages on both sides | 20:11 |
| xgerman | blogan_ I am ok with that | 20:11 |
| xgerman | but I like the spec fixed before I give +2 | 20:11 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: was going to do that too in this review | 20:11 |
| madhu_ak | poking around lbaas scenario tests, all of the patches got merged. Thanks to reviewers | 20:11 |
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| xgerman | awesome!! | 20:11 |
| blogan_ | madhu_ak: thanks for getting that done adn your patience | 20:12 |
| blogan_ | and everyone else who worked on it | 20:12 |
| johnsom | FYI, housekeeping is ready to merge in my opinion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202829/ | 20:12 |
| blogan_ | ready to merge eh? | 20:12 |
| xgerman | blogan_ +! | 20:12 |
| blogan_ | bold statement sir | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:12 |
| xgerman | we are bold here | 20:12 |
| blogan_ | johnsom: some pedantic people might see that as a challenge | 20:12 |
| * blogan_ looks at TrevorV | 20:12 | |
| johnsom | It's not my code, so go for it | 20:12 |
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| sbalukoff | XD | 20:13 |
| * blogan_ maybe himself | 20:13 | |
| madhu_ak | dougwig: I just submitted a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214767/ and need +1 from you before infra folks gives me +2. | 20:13 |
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| madhu_ak | ^^ the above patch is making scenario test api job as voting | 20:13 |
| xgerman | also with L3 coming up on 8/31 we need to keep up the velocity | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:13 |
| blogan_ | madhu_ak: i have noticed it is much more stable, i haven't seen it fail in a while, have you? | 20:13 |
| madhu_ak | blogan_ yep, it is much more stable now :) | 20:14 |
| blogan_ | madhu_ak: for random reasons | 20:14 |
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| blogan_ | beyond our control | 20:14 |
| * TrevorV pedantic senses are tingling | 20:14 | |
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| madhu_ak | things will be stable and from ym experience I dont see it any failures | 20:14 |
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| madhu_ak | *my | 20:15 |
| abdelwas | Very close to a functional and stable active/standby code | 20:15 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:15 |
| blogan_ | awesome | 20:15 |
| xgerman | ok, moving on | 20:16 |
| xgerman | #topic Octavia reference implementation in Liberty | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Octavia reference implementation in Liberty (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:16 | |
| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-octavia | 20:16 |
| xgerman | let’s see where we are at | 20:16 |
| blogan_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213597/ | 20:16 |
| xgerman | yeah, ajmiller? | 20:17 |
| blogan_ | neutron-lbaas cores (ptoohill, ajmiller) need a +2 (or a -1 if so needed) | 20:17 |
| blogan_ | or -1 from anyone, but that's gets the octavia driver to a good state as far as reporting accurate provisioning statuses | 20:18 |
| ajmiller | xgerman here, looking at it | 20:18 |
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| xgerman | thanks | 20:18 |
| ajmiller | Had looked through it yesterday, but before the latest patchset. | 20:18 |
| xgerman | TLS? | 20:18 |
| TrevorV | If I could draw some attention here in a second... I've noticed, through random testings in the flows, that we have a lot of un-implemented reverts in the tasks. Would anyone have a problem with me spending some significant time updating individual tasks accordingly, and then optimizing flows to utilize subflows much more effectively when duplication is necessary? | 20:18 |
| blogan_ | pothole was working on that | 20:18 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV: you're asking if anyone woul dhave a problem with making the code better? | 20:18 |
| xgerman | yeah, we all love that - thanks for volunteering :-) | 20:19 |
| TrevorV | I'm asking if someone is currently interested in doing that or has progress on it, or if I should prioritize something else | 20:19 |
| TrevorV | Obviously someone making the code better isn't a problem, but it could be currently back-burnered, make sense? | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Dooo eeet! | 20:19 |
| ajmiller | +a | 20:19 |
| ajmiller | +A | 20:19 |
| xgerman | well, I think we need to get through our list first and then we can work on optimzing | 20:20 |
| johnsom | It needs to be done. | 20:20 |
| TrevorV | Alright, then that's what I'll focus on after fixing the failover flow | 20:20 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV: plus some tasks dont need a revert, tasks that just retrieve values usually wouldn't | 20:20 |
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| xgerman | TrevorV +1 | 20:20 |
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| blogan_ | grr | 20:20 |
| blogan_ | grr | 20:20 |
| TrevorV | Yeah, blogan_ I'm more talking about the example in failover... It leaves ports and stuff floating around. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I would prioritize failover flow over the reverts. It's dependency chain is getting long | 20:20 |
| blogan_ | double grrs | 20:20 |
| blogan_ | yeah agree with johnsom | 20:21 |
| xgerman | +! | 20:21 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:21 |
| xgerman | finally | 20:21 |
| blogan_ | but i think TrevorV already had that planned | 20:21 |
| TrevorV | I just thought it'd be nice to have it all reverting appropriately in Liberty, and then optimization of flows will clean it up nice-like. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Yep, what TrevorV said.... | 20:21 |
| xgerman | yep, agreed | 20:21 |
| blogan_ | it will be, but separate review unless necessary for the failover flows | 20:21 |
| TrevorV | Yeah, for sure | 20:21 |
| xgerman | YES | 20:21 |
| TrevorV | I'm going to finish failover, and then make new review on master | 20:21 |
| TrevorV | off master*** | 20:21 |
| TrevorV | my b | 20:21 |
| blogan_ | excellente | 20:21 |
| xgerman | sound sgood | 20:21 |
| xgerman | so pothole? | 20:21 |
| xgerman | any TLS news? | 20:22 |
| blogan_ | ptoohill? | 20:22 |
| blogan_ | i think he fell in a pothole | 20:22 |
| madhu_ak | heh | 20:22 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:22 |
| xgerman | mwang2’s gate job is waiting infra +@ | 20:22 |
| xgerman | blogan Deletes? | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: in the driver? | 20:23 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: TrevorV fixed that last week I believe | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: its in | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | other than the issues about json.decode someone brought up earlier ir ead about | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | dont know much about it though | 20:24 |
| xgerman | bana_k said he ran into trouble yesterday | 20:24 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: can you give more details on it? | 20:24 |
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| bana_k | I was just trying to create n delete the listener n pool | 20:24 |
| TrevorV | Wait, deletes are still failing? | 20:24 |
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| TrevorV | I tested all the pieces I thought... May have missed something. | 20:24 |
| bana_k | first time listener delete failed | 20:25 |
| bana_k | but used to succeed in second time | 20:25 |
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| bana_k | took a short break n tested that again n it started working fine | 20:25 |
| bana_k | but delete pool started failing | 20:25 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: hmm one of those wonderful hard to reproduce bugs | 20:25 |
| johnsom | I haven't reloaded neutron-lbaas in my devstack in a while, so can't tell you if it's fixed. Will do that next restack | 20:25 |
| TrevorV | blogan_, I'm not sure the delete fix is merged yet, is it? | 20:26 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV: yes | 20:26 |
| TrevorV | If not, then bana_k are you sure you have the fix in code? | 20:26 |
| bana_k | but delete pool was stuck in that state for all the time | 20:26 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV: i combined yours and the tls one and bana_k into the same review last week or this weekend and it merged | 20:26 |
| johnsom | First time fail, second complete is mis-match between neutron db and octavia db. It's probably a false success | 20:26 |
| blogan_ | have yall updated your localrcs to not pull from that review's patchse? | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | Okay blogan_ | 20:27 |
| blogan_ | patchset? | 20:27 |
| blogan_ | just need to pull master now | 20:27 |
| bana_k | No I need to take a look at the code | 20:27 |
| blogan_ | and if you want good status management, pull down https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213597/ | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | bana_k, let me know if you ARE up-to-date with my delete fix, because if there is still a bug there then I'll jump on it as quick as I can | 20:28 |
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| xgerman | \me stepping away for a bit | 20:28 |
| TrevorV | I have to step away, sorry | 20:28 |
| TrevorV | brb | 20:28 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: verify your localrc settings first, that neutron-lbaas isn't pulling down an old review | 20:28 |
| bana_k | it was pointing to master last time I checked | 20:29 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: damn | 20:29 |
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| bana_k | so ll see if those changes are there in the code n let u know | 20:30 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: you able to do a git log right now and tell me the hash you have? | 20:30 |
| johnsom | bana_k remove /opt/stack/neutron-lbaas as well, just to make sure it re-clones | 20:31 |
| blogan_ | yeah | 20:31 |
| blogan_ | or just git pull | 20:31 |
| bana_k | ok | 20:31 |
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| TrevorV | back sorry | 20:31 |
| blogan_ | anyway sounds like thats everything | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | Short meeting today, eh? | 20:32 |
| blogan_ | xgerman will have to come back to an empty room | 20:32 |
| bana_k | git log shows the latest checkins | 20:32 |
| bana_k | fec0535a85945ed43471fd0007487864d4d7e775 | 20:32 |
| bana_k | commit id | 20:32 |
| johnsom | What about the stats stuff? | 20:32 |
| TrevorV | does this count as "open discussion"? | 20:32 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV: yes | 20:33 |
| bana_k | so basically it has master code base | 20:33 |
| blogan_ | i dont have chair under this alias so i cant change topic | 20:33 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: i dont see that commit! i'm going crazy | 20:33 |
| blogan_ | bana_k: octavia or neutron-lbaas? | 20:34 |
| johnsom | #chair blogan_ | 20:34 |
| bana_k | neutron-lbaas | 20:34 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan blogan_ johnsom xgerman | 20:34 |
| blogan_ | #topic Open Discussion | 20:34 |
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| johnsom | German added me as chair in case he had to go | 20:34 |
| blogan_ | johnsom: thanks | 20:34 |
| crc32 | hello. | 20:34 |
| ajmiller | So I saw a remark at the top of the meeting about infra plumbing problems, and see in zuul that no new instances are building. Gate is way backed up | 20:34 |
| ajmiller | Anybody know what's up? | 20:35 |
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| blogan_ | ajmiller: i do not but i suppose our infra liasion dougwig would know | 20:35 |
| johnsom | It's getting close to the end of liberty 3 is my guess | 20:35 |
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| xgerman | sorry about that | 20:35 |
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| blogan_ | bana_k: whats the title of that commit? | 20:36 |
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| blogan_ | xgerman: bana_k and i can take this discussion to the main channel | 20:37 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: not really something to do in a meeting | 20:37 |
| ajmiller | blogan_ with the gate in this state, even if it started building jobs now, we'll probaby be lucky if that patch merges this evening sometime. | 20:37 |
| xgerman | k | 20:37 |
| blogan_ | ajmiller: yeah i know unfortunately | 20:37 |
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| abdelwas | We need to raise the importance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/taskflow/+bug/1479466 | 20:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479466 in taskflow "The needs to treat subflows as standalone entity" [Undecided,New] | 20:38 |
| abdelwas | There is a review in progress to handle subflows as a single entity in taskflow : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136171/ | 20:39 |
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| xgerman | mmh, wonder if harlow can comment? | 20:40 |
| xgerman | jharlow | 20:40 |
| johnsom | He has a bunch of comments on the bug | 20:41 |
| xgerman | ok, abdelwas make sure to reach put to the other Min | 20:42 |
| abdelwas | Sure | 20:42 |
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| xgerman | also #topic Open Discussion | 20:42 |
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| abdelwas | As long as I am not writing a spec, and implement it myself as the comment suggested :) | 20:42 |
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| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:43 |
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| xgerman | tep | 20:43 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:43 |
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| blogan_ | abdelwas: you want it you implement it! | 20:43 |
| blogan_ | abdelwas: you want a teleportation device? you invent it! | 20:43 |
| abdelwas | :) | 20:43 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:44 |
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| xgerman | anything else? | 20:45 |
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| sbalukoff | Nope! | 20:45 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 19 20:45:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-08-19-20.00.html | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-08-19-20.00.txt | 20:45 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-08-19-20.00.log.html | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 20:46 |
| xgerman | Thanks everybody | 20:46 |
| abdelwas | Thanks bye | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Let's keep the velocity going strong for that 8/31 deadline, eh! | 20:46 |
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