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| iben | this is starting soon here, right? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup#Meetings | 13:56 |
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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 14:00:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:00 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | \o/ | 14:01 |
| aveiga | hello | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | anybody else around for the telco wg meeting? | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | #topic openstack summit tokyo | 14:02 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | :-) | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | #info Requested Tuesday 2:00 - 2:40, 30 person room | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | i put in a request for working group space based on the available slots | 14:03 |
| sgordon | not much more to add on that for now | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | #topic lucky volunteers! | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | #info Taking BGP use case as a "guinea pig" to turn into RFEs/backlog | 14:03 |
| sgordon | #info Taking Affinity gap from the IMS use case and doing same | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | we discussed these in an earlier meeting | 14:04 |
| sgordon | but i am not sure we have anyone signed up to actually do it... | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | <crickets> | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | #action sgordon to email list about taking BGP use case and Affinity gap from IMS use case to RFEs/backlog | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #topic reviews | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | i pinged mkoderer about these before the meeting | 14:06 |
| sgordon | he cant make it as he is traveling | 14:06 |
| sgordon | but we still have some stuck reviews | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/telcowg-usecases,n,z | 14:06 |
| sgordon | particularly the workflow one | 14:06 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | What is holding that back from concluding? | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | someone other than DaSchab to +@ | 14:08 |
| sgordon | +2 | 14:08 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | Same story for the optional template sections? | 14:09 |
| aveiga | ok, let me dig into it | 14:09 |
| sgordon | yah | 14:09 |
| sgordon | aveiga, thanks | 14:09 |
| sgordon | i think we have been through enough rounds on this that it should be good to go... | 14:10 |
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| aveiga | give me a bit, since it looks like gerrit is awfully slow on my end... | 14:10 |
| sgordon | no problem | 14:10 |
| sgordon | #topic other business | 14:10 |
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| sgordon | in addition to the ops midcycle there was a product wg midcycle last week, i wasnt able to attend because i went to linuxcon/kvm forum instead | 14:11 |
| aveiga | sgordon: any news on the productwg discussions? I know they had face to face time in opsp | 14:11 |
| sgordon | yeah that | 14:11 |
| sgordon | so there was a de-brief email of sorts sent out | 14:11 |
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| sgordon | i am still filtering through it and need to catch up with nick barcet (my boss) who went as my proxy | 14:12 |
| sgordon | to work out how the discussions impact us | 14:12 |
| sgordon | they now have a series of use cases roughed out in google docs but are looking to move them into a git repo they have created | 14:12 |
| sgordon | (sound familiar?) | 14:12 |
| sgordon | which might be the point where we want to merge efforts | 14:12 |
| adrian-hoban_ | I believe they are looking at the template we created to help with that | 14:13 |
| iben | they? Is the google doc public? | 14:13 |
| sgordon | yes that is correct | 14:13 |
| sgordon | yes it is public | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/product-wg/2015-August/000676.html | 14:13 |
| sgordon | #link https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxtM4AiszlEyfm9UTW5LMEQ5cUhHbmFsSkd5WFNfdTMwVFIwRUM1TVFXSHhhWHl6VHlpRzg&usp=sharing | 14:13 |
| iben | I’m working with OPNFV looking for areas we might collaborate or share - thanks for link. | 14:14 |
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| sgordon | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d1ZKuZ6gsiG6CXXrfONBwAGGHA8SYINbYC9BSPBKllI/edit#gid=1956934401<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d1ZKuZ6gsiG6CXXrfONBwAGGHA8SYINbYC9BSPBKllI/edit> | 14:14 |
| sgordon | as you might gather from those there is quite a lot to review | 14:15 |
| iben | wow - lot’s of info - | 14:15 |
| iben | yeha | 14:15 |
| bryan_att | Hi, I have been lurking - but this looks like some good stuff | 14:15 |
| iben | Hi @bryan_att | 14:15 |
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| bryan_att | sgordon, since you are in AOB - one question I could ask | 14:17 |
| sgordon | sure | 14:17 |
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| bryan_att | in OPNFV qwe are building traffic profiles for NFV platform testing | 14:17 |
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| bryan_att | have any management / control plane / session profiles been developed in OpenStack? | 14:18 |
| bryan_att | for various use cases e.g. mobilty, IMS, CDN, etc | 14:18 |
| sgordon | aveiga, ^^ | 14:18 |
| sgordon | not that i am aware of | 14:18 |
| aveiga | profiles? | 14:19 |
| bryan_att | not sure it directly relates to the charter of OPenStack but since this is a "telco" focused group thought i would ask | 14:19 |
| bryan_att | "profile" meaning e.g. a set of protocols and traffic volumes across the user plane in an average session | 14:19 |
| bryan_att | or control plane, or management plane, etc | 14:20 |
| bryan_att | for use in background traffic or performance testing | 14:20 |
| aveiga | no, because I'm not sure what that would get abstracted to in an OpenStack sense | 14:20 |
| aveiga | maybe you're looking for QoS configs? | 14:20 |
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| bryan_att | yes, understood - only in how it might affect e.g. the autoscaling performance etc would it matter to OpenStack | 14:21 |
| Daenerys_Targary | hello | 14:21 |
| bryan_att | aviega, not specifically, just looking for input on typical traffic profiles for testing purposes | 14:22 |
| aveiga | I don't think we have any right now | 14:22 |
| aveiga | OpenStack officially only tests functionality at the gate | 14:22 |
| bryan_att | when we put the NFVI under load most will be focused on the data plane, but will also test the management plane (NFVI control) performance | 14:23 |
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| bryan_att | thanks anyway | 14:23 |
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| sgordon | aveiga, thanks that was my understanding also | 14:23 |
| adrian-hoban_ | bryan_att: I've seen some OpenStack network scalability presentations | 14:23 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | Let me dig out the link | 14:23 |
| aveiga | some third parties do their own testing, like adrian-hoban_ pointed out | 14:23 |
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| bryan_att | thanks, the input is appreciated | 14:24 |
| adrian-hoban_ | e.g. https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/presentation/can-you-trust-neutron-a-tour-of-scalability-and-reliability-improvements-from-havana-to-juno | 14:24 |
| iben | bryan_att: maybe explain the goal of these profiles? We want to understand the capacity of a given platform config | 14:25 |
| iben | so many cpus, memory, nics, etc will allow so many calls or users | 14:25 |
| iben | there is a packey loss of latency of the following with this given traffic profile | 14:25 |
| iben | right? | 14:25 |
| bryan_att | iben: I wasn't thinking in the resource requirements spec direction but that could be a side-benefit of developing a traffic model for a service | 14:26 |
| bryan_att | i.e. give me a resource pool that can serve a particular profile | 14:26 |
| iben | so there is no performance testing in the openstack gate process | 14:26 |
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| sgordon | iben, no | 14:27 |
| iben | sorry o that was a question for aveiga | 14:27 |
| aveiga | I also don't think there's a mechanism in OpenStack for guaranteed minimum performance | 14:27 |
| iben | thanks sgordon | 14:27 |
| aveiga | QoS will get one for min bandwidth, but there's nothign in nova that does that | 14:27 |
| sgordon | keep in mind that the openstack gate is itself running on top of an openstack cloud | 14:27 |
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| iben | right | 14:27 |
| sgordon | and using emulation for virt | 14:27 |
| sgordon | (it doesnt use nested kvm, just qemu) | 14:27 |
| iben | is the focus of this group mainly to ensure features needed by telcos are implemented in openstack? | 14:28 |
| adrian-hoban_ | There is some quota mgmt. capability in Nova, but doesn't get to the level bryan_att is referencing | 14:28 |
| iben | things like letting a vm use vlan trunks? | 14:28 |
| aveiga | iben: it's to facilitate Telcos in requesting capabilities from OpenStack | 14:28 |
| iben | cpu pinning and pci passthrough? | 14:28 |
| aveiga | adrian-hoban_: quota doesn't do guaranteed mins, i.e. IO profiles or clock cycles | 14:28 |
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| aveiga | it just does genral primitives like vcpu or RAM | 14:29 |
| aveiga | and in most cases, the intent is to actually abstract most of that info anyway | 14:29 |
| adrian-hoban_ | aveiga: you can set some vif inbound and outbound average, burst and peak rates | 14:30 |
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| sgordon | right and iirc the cgroups stuff we have is setting maximums only | 14:30 |
| sgordon | not minimums | 14:30 |
| aveiga | adrian-hoban_: that depends on the vif driver, though | 14:30 |
| aveiga | not all of them even support that | 14:30 |
| adrian-hoban_ | aveiga: +1 | 14:30 |
| aveiga | bryan_att: so to answer your question, there's no API object that would allow for setting minimum resource pools to guarantee a specific level of performance | 14:31 |
| aveiga | at least, not currently | 14:31 |
| aveiga | I can't speak to the plans for nova | 14:31 |
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| bryan_att | aviega: yes, understood. it's something that a service orchestrator would need to do, today, above OpenStack | 14:32 |
| aveiga | you'll want to rely on heat and TOSCA support to do a lot of that | 14:32 |
| bryan_att | based upon awareness of inventory | 14:32 |
| bryan_att | yes, the orchestration data models are a place to start | 14:33 |
| aveiga | yup, it's just going to be difficult for some use cases (like RTP) that depend on IO interrupt handling to be perfect and cpu availability to be guaranteed | 14:33 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | aveiga: Depends on the service orchestrator and what level is chosen to interface with OpenStack. Both Heat and TOSCA are certainly options | 14:33 |
| aveiga | adrian-hoban_: yes, it depends on what you want from the platform. But guaranteed minimum performance levels aren't in OpenStack proper, so they'll have to be monitored and controlled for from the outside | 14:34 |
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| bryan_att | that is why we have an OPNFV project on resource reservation | 14:35 |
| adrian-hoban_ | aveiga: +1 | 14:35 |
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| bryan_att | we need to incorporate openstack support for reservation but add to it active & available inventory | 14:35 |
| bryan_att | then make allocation decisions based upon various criteria etc | 14:36 |
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| bryan_att | at some point this will come back to openstack as work in a project - for now it's a developing idea in OPNFV | 14:37 |
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| sgordon | bryan_att, i guess the key point of interest is how that will filter back into the community | 14:38 |
| adrian-hoban_ | bryan_att: This would make for a great use case when ready | 14:38 |
| sgordon | there has been a lot of debate about how reservations should be handled in the past | 14:38 |
| aveiga | adrian-hoban_: +1 | 14:38 |
| bryan_att | I'm not sure when but there is active interest in oncovering related, ongoing work in OpenStack and pushing any new gaps/BPs in that direction | 14:39 |
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| bryan_att | the two main aspects are resource requirements specs, and reservation capability | 14:41 |
| adrian-hoban_ | bryan_att: From what I've seen the requirements are resonably well understood and some have already been documented in the ETSI-NFV phase 2 docs. It would be great to get the use case out their for the OpenStack community to comment and share some of the previous debate conclusions | 14:41 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | Sorry, I should say partially documented. The phase 2 specs are a work in progress | 14:42 |
| bryan_att | I will pass that back to the projects in OPNFV, to see if we can upstream a use case doc here in the short term | 14:43 |
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| bryan_att | per our earlier discussion in Vancouver that is a goal - more and earlier interaction | 14:43 |
| bryan_att | just difficult in the blizzard of projects and meetings... | 14:43 |
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| adrian-hoban_ | bryan_att: +1 | 14:44 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-08-26-14.00.html | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-08-26-14.00.txt | 14:49 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 16:01 |
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| yamahata | hello. | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 16:02:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody would like to add anything to the agenda? | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura is off today - he will not be joining us | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | Neutron FF is next week - so, basically we have this week to push any code for Liberty | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody has any announcement? | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Action items | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura was going to finalize the host for the late-cycle sprint | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | we have three offers for hosting - Cisco, Yahoo, and Brocade | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | Since rkukura is out today, I sent out the email to all the (potential) hosts to respond | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | Hopefully, we will finalize this soon | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | Here is the link to the etherpad for the late-cycle sprint - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | moving right along | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Driver API for security group | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | We discussed this last week | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: you were going to investigate this | 16:09 |
| yamahata | yamamoto? | 16:09 |
| yamamoto | i guess it wa me | 16:09 |
| yamamoto | i had no chance to work on it this week. | 16:10 |
| yamamoto | and i don't think i have time in the next two weeks. | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | my bad - sorry auto-fill feature matched yamahata insetad of yamamoto - sorry about that :-) | 16:10 |
| yamamoto | no problem, it's very common mistake :-) | 16:11 |
| yamahata | yeah, very common. | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: I understand because of the release deadlines, everybody is very busy - including me | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: since this will be for next release cycle, I guess we can delay it a bit - | 16:12 |
| yamamoto | sure | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: however, we should plan in such a way that we meet the deadline to submit for Tokyo Design Summit | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: the deadline is not announced yet, but, but my guess it will be within next 2 weeks or so. | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | So, we have time - no worries | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | If you want to share anything, you can alway email me at sukhdev@arista.com | 16:14 |
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| yamamoto | noted, thank you | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | moving on to the next topic | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Physical Topology Discussion | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not see asoumya or shivharis here - | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | I will ping them off-line and see if they have made any progress | 16:16 |
| yamahata | In the context of physical topology, I'd like to introduce common layer for provider network support. | 16:16 |
| yamahata | Hopefully it can be discussed at Tokyo summit... | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: it is my understanding that this deals with the physical connectivity of the network elements - | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: networks will overlay on top of the physical topology | 16:17 |
| yamamoto | yamahata: common among what? | 16:17 |
| yamahata | I mean https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: I do not believe this BP is related to the physical connectivity | 16:19 |
| yamahata | Right now physical bridge mapping is handled by each agent. But make it common and usable to mechanism driver. | 16:19 |
| yamahata | Right. I thought it's a bit related, though. | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | drivers (especially type drivers) can use the topology information to allocate/assign segment-id based upon the connectivity of the devices - rather than globally across the data centers | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | this allows the drivers to dynamically allocate segments/IDs, etc. | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | It also helps Nova in terms of placing the VMs - | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | for instance, one could define affinity among the VMs so that the placement can take advantage of the physical connectivity information of the hosts | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | e.g. place all VMs related to a given application on specific host which is closest to the DB host, etc.. | 16:24 |
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| yamahata | I see. Thanks and sorry for hijaking this topic. | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: no worries - this meeting is for such discussions :-) | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | any other question on this topic, before we move along? | 16:25 |
| yamahata | no from me | 16:26 |
| yamamoto | nothing from me | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: modular l2 agent and macvtap | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran is out on PTO and he did not update the status - so, we do not have any update other than that this is begin worked on | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | he was planning on trying to get into L3 - | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | I am sure sean is making progress on this | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | with this we are on the last topic in the agenda | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: I will make sure when rkukura has finalized the host for late-cycle sprint, he touches base with you | 16:29 |
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| yamahata | Sukhdev: sure. thanks for arrangement. | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: I am hoping that you are still planning on joining us for the sprint | 16:30 |
| yamahata | I'll attend. I'm not sure about full week attendance though | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: I will pull in out expert on the sync issues from Arista - he has lots of data to share on the sync related issues that he has been testing | 16:31 |
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| yamahata | Sukhdev: That's very great. | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: many of the issues that you pointed out in your slide deck few weeks back | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | if there is nothing else to discuss - lets cut this short this week | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | thanks for attending today's meeting | 16:33 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 16:33 |
| yamahata | thanks | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 16:33:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-08-26-16.02.html | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-08-26-16.02.txt | 16:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-08-26-16.02.log.html | 16:34 |
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| mlavalle | johnbelamaric: hey, thanks for the feedback! | 16:59 |
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| timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 17:02:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
| timsim | Hi all, who's about? | 17:02 |
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| mlavalle | hi | 17:02 |
| james_li | james li | 17:02 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
| pglass | o/ | 17:02 |
| timsim | cool | 17:03 |
| timsim | #topic Annoucements | 17:03 |
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| timsim | Anybody have any? :D | 17:03 |
| mugsie | nothing really, - thanks to RAX for hosting the midcycle | 17:03 |
| mlavalle | Liberty-3 milestone in on 8/31 | 17:03 |
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| jmcbride | o/ | 17:04 |
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| timsim | Alright, I'm sure we'll talk about that a bit later. | 17:04 |
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| timsim | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:04 |
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| elarson | o/ | 17:04 |
| timsim | mugsie to check if "cad363a Fix zone transfer requests + add tempest tests" applies to stable/kilo | 17:04 |
| mugsie | crap | 17:05 |
| mugsie | action me to look again | 17:05 |
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| timsim | #action mugsie to check if "cad363a Fix zone transfer requests + add tempest tests" applies to stable/kilo | 17:05 |
| timsim | kiall to check on 23633e4 Merge "Wildcard records" for stable/kilo + BP if necessary | 17:05 |
| mugsie | I would say action again | 17:05 |
| timsim | #action kiall to check on 23633e4 Merge "Wildcard records" for stable/kilo + BP if necessary | 17:05 |
| timsim | kiall to BP 794e679 Provide error messages on CRUD actions | 17:06 |
| mugsie | and again | 17:06 |
| timsim | #action kiall to BP 794e679 Provide error messages on CRUD actions | 17:06 |
| timsim | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update | 17:06 |
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| timsim | mlavalle over to you :) | 17:06 |
| mlavalle | timsim: we are about to merge the internal dns integration | 17:07 |
| timsim | That's great! | 17:07 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952/ | 17:07 |
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| mlavalle | timsim: I have 2 +2's necessary for that. it is shugging along in the gate right now | 17:07 |
| mlavalle | making progress with the xternal part now | 17:08 |
| mugsie | mlavalle: great | 17:08 |
| mlavalle | I got my sand box working with designate and neutron | 17:08 |
| mlavalle | thanks to mugsie and timsim for the guidance | 17:08 |
| mugsie | np | 17:08 |
| mugsie | you got caught at a bad time | 17:09 |
| mlavalle | right now I am focusing on loading the desihgnate client in neutron, so we can send requests | 17:09 |
| mugsie | mlavalle: cool. there is 2 api versions - are you using v2? | 17:09 |
| mlavalle | mugsie: yes, I am using V2 | 17:09 |
| mugsie | v1 has 7-8 months of life left | 17:09 |
| mugsie | thats OK | 17:09 |
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| mlavalle | I ight have something working next week for this meeting | 17:10 |
| mlavalle | might^^^^ | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | great | 17:10 |
| mlavalle | also thanks to johnbelamaric for the feedback on the external dns service api definition | 17:10 |
| mlavalle | that is my report this week | 17:10 |
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| johnbelamaric | mlavalle: no problem. looking forward to seeing it :) | 17:11 |
| timsim | Thanks mlavalle | 17:11 |
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| timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:11 |
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| timsim | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/428524/ | 17:11 |
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| timsim | Not many with the mid-cycle happening :) | 17:12 |
| timsim | I don't see any there, we've got Kiall and mugsie action'd to look at some from last week. | 17:12 |
| mugsie | yeah, none of those new ones are usfeful | 17:13 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:13 |
| mugsie | but me and Kiall need to do the ones from the week before | 17:13 |
| timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:13 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1486709 | 17:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486709 in Designate "Incorrect error code for unathorized policy on all_tenants and edit_managed attributes" [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | h, l3 | 17:14 |
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| timsim | This is odd, because I know i've done all tenants stuff with users without privilege and it's not 500'd. | 17:14 |
| timsim | Perhaps something with the way the CLI is doing it. | 17:15 |
| mugsie | yeah, i think there may be some issue in the API code, with the new py3 stuff | 17:15 |
| timsim | k | 17:15 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1486743 | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486743 in Designate "v2 API allows CNAME RRSets with multiple Records" [Undecided,New] | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | h, l3 | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | sorry c | 17:15 |
| timsim | Maybe even critical? | 17:15 |
| timsim | yes | 17:15 |
| timsim | ok | 17:15 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1487934 | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487934 in Designate "500 error returned in List Records in a Domain" [Undecided,New] | 17:16 |
| mugsie | needs further digging I think | 17:16 |
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| timsim | Alright, I'll leave it New so we see it again. | 17:17 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1485552 | 17:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1485552 in python-designateclient "add to_dict() to python-designateclient entities" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | l/m | 17:17 |
| mugsie | we dont have milestones in the client | 17:17 |
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| timsim | I'm betting eandersson will be filing one soon, but nothing yet. | 17:19 |
| timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:19 |
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| james_li | ekarlso: you there? | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | I guess not ;) | 17:20 |
| timsim | You can go ahead and make your ask james_li and we can figure it out when ekarlso is available | 17:21 |
| james_li | just want to check if it's ok I commit a new patch to address the comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133676/ | 17:21 |
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| james_li | v2 cli | 17:22 |
| timsim | Having a cli for v2 is important for us pretty soon, so if it means getting in to shape faster, we're happy to contribute. | 17:22 |
| james_li | ok, looks he is not here | 17:22 |
| mugsie | I can ping him about it, and let him know unless he gets something up soon, we will let someone else put code up | 17:22 |
| timsim | That'd be great mugsie | 17:23 |
| james_li | thanks mugsie! | 17:23 |
| mugsie | np | 17:23 |
| mugsie | I will ping james_li / timsim when I know what is happening | 17:24 |
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| timsim | Looks like l3 is due Sep 1-3rd, so we should probably try and get some of the open stuff in there. | 17:25 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:25 |
| mugsie | as soon as we get back to Ireland we can dig into stuff | 17:25 |
| timsim | Cool cool. | 17:26 |
| mugsie | that everything/ | 17:26 |
| mugsie | ?* | 17:26 |
| timsim | Alright, well unless people have anything else, we'll call it? | 17:26 |
| elarson | fwiw, I got a little closer on caching mdns messages | 17:26 |
| mugsie | cool :) | 17:26 |
| timsim | I'm pretty close to getting up an async zone export patch (hopefully today) | 17:27 |
| mugsie | \o/ | 17:27 |
| elarson | hopefully, I can wrap up some other work and get a blueprint in place along with a patch | 17:27 |
| mugsie | I am in meetings all day today | 17:27 |
| mugsie | and have been all week | 17:27 |
| timsim | booooo | 17:27 |
| mugsie | but next week, I can get to real work | 17:27 |
| elarson | mugsie: just a FYI, emacs has tetris... sooo... | 17:27 |
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| mugsie | :D | 17:27 |
| timsim | lol | 17:27 |
| timsim | Alright, going once.... | 17:27 |
| mugsie | elarson: is it docker tetris? | 17:27 |
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| elarson | i wish!!! | 17:28 |
| timsim | twice....(I will not tolerate this emacs talk) | 17:28 |
| elarson | just plain 'ol elisp | 17:28 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:28 |
| elarson | there is a also a great version of 2048 | 17:28 |
| * elarson has to get to work!!! | 17:28 | |
| timsim | lol | 17:28 |
| timsim | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:28 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 17:28:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-08-26-17.02.html | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-08-26-17.02.txt | 17:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-08-26-17.02.log.html | 17:28 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:28 |
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| federico3 | o/ | 17:31 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 26 20:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
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| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:00 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| abdelwas | o/ | 20:00 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:00 |
| ajmiller | xgerman you were three seconds late | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:00 |
| evgenyf | hi | 20:00 |
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| blogan_ | hello | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy! | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| bharathm | o/ | 20:00 |
| crc32 | o/ | 20:01 |
| xgerman | Accepted Summit talks | 20:01 |
| xgerman | Load Balancing as a Service, Liberty and Beyond | 20:01 |
| xgerman | Hands on Lab: Install and Configure OpenStack Octavia | 20:01 |
| blogan_ | how many people are signed up for the lab? | 20:01 |
| xgerman | it’s huge — now we need to see who actually gets funded to go | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | I'd be happy to help out with that. | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | I'm about 95% certain I'm going. | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | #action german add sbalukoff to lab talk | 20:02 |
| rm_work | I ... don't think they are planning to send me at the moment | 20:02 |
| rm_work | i don't know if i adequately expressed that they SHOULD be | 20:02 |
| xgerman | you have a talk... | 20:02 |
| crc32 | I'm funding my self. Due to health concerns | 20:02 |
| rm_work | we'll see | 20:02 |
| rm_work | we honestly weren't sure if they would send anyone | 20:02 |
| TrevorV | I'm not sure if anyone from rax is going on company dime | 20:02 |
| TrevorV | I'll have to talk to our guy. | 20:03 |
| TrevorV | Cuz I'd love to | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | Wow, that sucks, eh. | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Have I mentioned that IBM is sending a whole bunch of people? Also, we're hiring. XD | 20:03 |
| crc32 | maby we'll get funded due to the intel boost. | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | Hopefully! | 20:03 |
| TrevorV | Tis possible, we'll see I guess :D | 20:04 |
| xgerman | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/main-conference | 20:04 |
| xgerman | ^^ blogan | 20:04 |
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| blogan_ | first day as always | 20:04 |
| xgerman | yeah, 8 people are in the lab | 20:05 |
| xgerman | or we have 8 presenters | 20:05 |
| blogan_ | thats a big meatball | 20:05 |
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| dougwig | i think blogan should do all of the lbaas talk. it's his favorite thing. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA! | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Seriously though-- I'm happy to help out with whatever there, eh. | 20:06 |
| xgerman | awesome | 20:06 |
| blogan_ | ill be sure to fake a cold | 20:06 |
| dougwig | i'll be there, also happy to help. equally happy to let people that need to be speakers to attend be the speakers. | 20:06 |
| blogan_ | being a speaker isn't as powerful as it was for the paris summit, in regards to rax sending us | 20:06 |
| blogan_ | low on the totem poll now | 20:07 |
| blogan_ | so if someone else needs to speak... | 20:07 |
| xgerman | what about keynote speaker? | 20:07 |
| * blogan_ feels a cold coming on | 20:07 | |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 as well (same sentiment) | 20:07 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:07 |
| blogan_ | well ill be doing that for sure | 20:07 |
| crc32 | openstack on shingled magnetic recordings? | 20:07 |
| crc32 | ??? | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Since I'm going regardless of whether I'm speaking at anything. | 20:07 |
| xgerman | #chair blogan_ | 20:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan blogan_ xgerman | 20:07 |
| blogan_ | 2 blogans > 1 xgerman | 20:07 |
| xgerman | k, so next is GSLB | 20:08 |
| xgerman | johnsom? | 20:08 |
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| xgerman | I think they had a short meeting and nothing of substance got decided ;-) | 20:09 |
| xgerman | there he is | 20:09 |
| johnsom_ | Sorry. | 20:09 |
| dougwig | i did show this cool pic of why i wasn't there: http://i.imgur.com/HTp5Wlu.jpg | 20:09 |
| johnsom_ | GSLB Short meeting, we are reviewing updated diagrams that are going into gerrit | 20:09 |
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| evgenyf | xgerman: I would like to discuss L7 tasks if there is time | 20:10 |
| xgerman | yes it’s on the agenda | 20:10 |
| dougwig | evgenyf: there's an agenda item for it | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | next, L3 deadline — dougwig is release master since mestery is on vacation | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Fun! | 20:11 |
| blogan_ | dougwig changed that to armax | 20:11 |
| dougwig | actually it's armax. myself and carl_baldwin are the backups. | 20:11 |
| xgerman | smart!! | 20:11 |
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| xgerman | so deadline is still 8/31 | 20:12 |
| xgerman | does this mean code complete by then? | 20:12 |
| dougwig | in gerrit by then, yes. | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | ok, cool | 20:13 |
| xgerman | other announcements? | 20:13 |
| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:14 |
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| johnsom_ | Are we going into depth on that last point about what needs to be in gerrit? | 20:14 |
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| dougwig | can we do liberty first? | 20:14 |
| dougwig | i have to bail at 2:30 for dentist. | 20:14 |
| blogan_ | i have a dentist appt too! | 20:14 |
| xgerman | k, let’s do L7 and then Liberty | 20:14 |
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| xgerman | #topic L7 | 20:14 |
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| dougwig | xgerman clearly didn't hit refresh on the agenda. :) | 20:15 |
| dougwig | what's left to get l7 in? do we have people on all the pieces? | 20:15 |
| xgerman | #topic Liberty deadline stuff | 20:15 |
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| * xgerman hit refresh | 20:15 | |
| blogan_ | lol | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Let's talk about Liberfy | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Liberty | 20:15 |
| blogan_ | liberfinity | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | eew. | 20:15 |
| dougwig | we have 3 liberty features. l7, horizon, octavia as ref. | 20:15 |
| dougwig | pick one to start. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Seriously, you just made me shudder. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Octavia as ref is most important. | 20:16 |
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| dougwig | octavia as ref, where are we? | 20:16 |
| blogan_ | heartbeats, failover are coming | 20:16 |
| blogan_ | seems like its close | 20:16 |
| xgerman | +! | 20:16 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:17 |
| TrevorV | I think I may have just finished failover. | 20:17 |
| blogan_ | need to get scenario tests working with the octavia driver | 20:17 |
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| xgerman | gate is in but fails | 20:17 |
| johnsom_ | heartbeats is done, just updating unit tests. | 20:17 |
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| dougwig | if we fire it up in devstack, does it work better than the current ref? is it performant at all? | 20:17 |
| blogan_ | ptoohill: tls? | 20:17 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: its performant if you're got enough space for nova instances | 20:18 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:18 |
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| xgerman | yeah, if you use a small machine it will be slower | 20:18 |
| TrevorV | Has anyone done any kind of load testing or anything? Not scale, but load? | 20:18 |
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| abdelwas | +1 | 20:18 |
| blogan_ | and nova scheduler will fail | 20:18 |
| xgerman | TrevorV no | 20:19 |
| blogan_ | if not much capacity | 20:19 |
| dougwig | do we have any docs or deployment guides? | 20:19 |
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| xgerman | not yet — we decided we can deliver them after L3 | 20:19 |
| rm_work | johnsom_: did you commit the main part of your udp changes yet? | 20:19 |
| blogan_ | that was set up to be done after deadline | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | I didn't think load testing (or really, any kind of significant performance numbers) were a part of it? | 20:19 |
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| xgerman | they were but we skirted | 20:19 |
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| rm_work | i don't think they need to be, but we should get them done at some point | 20:19 |
| johnsom_ | rm_work main part yes, unit test update part we talked about earlier, no, just about donw. | 20:20 |
| dougwig | are we ready for the octavia api to be partial baked into stone? | 20:20 |
| rm_work | johnsom_: not sure if you actually did a review? | 20:20 |
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| blogan_ | dougwig: hmm there was the goal to make octavia api exactly like neutron-lbaas, its not there | 20:20 |
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| xgerman | dougwig — do we really need to bake in stone since we use LBaaS V2? | 20:20 |
| blogan_ | does that need to be baked in stone though? | 20:20 |
| rm_work | dougwig: i think there's a couple of changes that need to be ported by blogan_ about the tls containers | 20:20 |
| rm_work | but yeah, octavia isn't used by end-users yet, just the driver | 20:21 |
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| rm_work | so as long as we update the driver... | 20:21 |
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| dougwig | well, i said partially. once we release the service, we'll likely need to be careful about breaking api changes. especially to the operator api, right? | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | The tentant-facing API for both Octavia and Neutron LBaaS v2 should be the same. | 20:21 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: really only a user api at this point, though its noauth | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: There is no operator API right now. | 20:21 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:22 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: no operator style commands | 20:22 |
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| blogan_ | well you knwo what i mean | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | We will be adding one, but it wasn't seen as necessary in order to replace the current refrence implementation. | 20:22 |
| dougwig | maintenance is via nova commands, then? | 20:22 |
| blogan_ | can be | 20:22 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: When the system isn't self-correcting, sure. | 20:22 |
| blogan_ | its something we can add in later | 20:22 |
| crc32 | ls -alF | 20:22 |
| crc32 | danmit | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:22 |
| dougwig | ok, this sounds doable, then. does anyone think it's not? | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | but its not something the current ref impl has anyway | 20:23 |
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| sbalukoff | I think it's totally doable. | 20:23 |
| xgerman | `1 | 20:23 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:23 |
| johnsom_ | +1 | 20:23 |
| xgerman | though still experimental | 20:23 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: i am concerned a bit by me not being able to create more than one load balancer at the moment in devstack bc nova fills up fast with that one | 20:23 |
| xgerman | we can create more than one | 20:24 |
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| blogan_ | if hte ref impl is experimental does that mean neutorn lbaas v2 remains in experimental? | 20:24 |
| dougwig | blogan_: one per nova, you mean? | 20:24 |
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| rm_work | well, is neutron-lbaas not still experimental? | 20:24 |
| xgerman | we can create like 4 before our 8 GB VMware devstack dies | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | I thought neutron-lbaas v2 API was still experimental. | 20:24 |
| dougwig | it is, at least until we get horizon support (later in the agenda) | 20:25 |
| xgerman | yeah, but we like it to be stable so we can deprecate bass v1 | 20:25 |
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| rm_work | k then no worries yet | 20:25 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: yes, but im sure its a local issue though | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:25 |
| dougwig | well, for devstack, they can still enable the old driver if needed. | 20:25 |
| xgerman | agreed | 20:25 |
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| dougwig | what's the minimum VM size, btw? | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Yes... so, the namespace driver becomes deprecated, Octavia becomes recommended, and then in "M" release, namespace driver goes away (hopefully). | 20:26 |
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| TrevorV | dougwig, I think ptoohill saw performance degradation under 1GB... | 20:27 |
| blogan_ | sounds like a plan to me | 20:27 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:27 |
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| johnsom_ | dougwig I run tests on m1.small | 20:27 |
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| blogan_ | johnsom_: int that 1 GB? | 20:28 |
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| blogan_ | isnt | 20:28 |
| dougwig | i can see how multiple LB's per amphora would be a useful optimization later. | 20:29 |
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| dougwig | ok, let's get this on the L-3 docket unless anyone objects? | 20:29 |
| blogan_ | or we can make a compute driver that just spins up a process on the controller worker in a namepsace! | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Yep! But first things first. | 20:29 |
| blogan_ | we could call it the namespace compute driver | 20:29 |
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| xgerman | lol | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:29 |
| dougwig | let's move on to L7/liberty (rushing, have to leave shortly) | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | dougwig, problem with multiple lb's per amphora (in my eyes) is bad neighbor effect | 20:30 |
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| blogan_ | so is L7 useful at all without being able to point to another pool? | 20:30 |
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| sbalukoff | evgenyf: You wanted to say something ablut L7, right? | 20:30 |
| dougwig | TrevorV: same tenant though, no problem. | 20:30 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan_: Yes-- you can set a rule to block. | 20:30 |
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| TrevorV | Maybe, still one LB could tank another, tenant causes own problem, still "bad neighbor" right? | 20:30 |
| blogan_ | sbalukoff: so only useful for one rule? | 20:30 |
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| sbalukoff | Sorry, I meant policy type. | 20:31 |
| evgenyf | or redirest to URL | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | but yes. | 20:31 |
| johnsom_ | BTW, L7 has not been added to Octavia yet either | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | Two policy types. | 20:31 |
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| sbalukoff | That's correct. | 20:31 |
| xgerman | well, I think it’s doable but... | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | I think we're likely to miss the L3 deadline because of too many missing "support stuff" to make L7 more useful. | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | But! | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | The work evgeny has done does expand the API in useful ways... | 20:31 |
| xgerman | dougwig was talking extension | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | And in ways that won't need changing later on, right? | 20:32 |
| dougwig | how many weeks away are we? | 20:32 |
| evgenyf | There are 3 patches for review for L7, extension, CLI and ref.implementation, tempest is missing | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | Probably 3. | 20:32 |
| blogan_ | but if there's no driver using it, it shouldn't go in | 20:32 |
| blogan_ | i mean if the ref impl isn't, and if octavia bcomes the ref impl then that'll be odd | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | We're also missing functionality to create / manipulate pools without being associated with a listener (essential for redirect_to_pool L7 policies) | 20:33 |
| blogan_ | ref impl doesn't support it, but deprecated driver does | 20:33 |
| evgenyf | sbalukoff: how many work is there for ref.implementation you think? | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | I think we're probably going to miss the deadline for this this time. | 20:33 |
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| sbalukoff | evgenyf: I'm pretty close on the namespace driver. It's mostly fleshing out tests that I needed to do. | 20:33 |
| dougwig | i'm wondering if it's kosher to merge the extension and then not publish the feature, to enable iteration or decomp'ed drivers to use it (which includes the ref in M.) | 20:34 |
| dougwig | and then publish in M. | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | But again, the wind is really stolen from our sails here if we can't do redirect_to_pool rules, since that's what like 95% of our customers use in production with L7 stuff. | 20:34 |
| blogan_ | it'd be nice to have api versioning for this | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | I personally don | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | 't think it's the end of the world if we miss this deadline. | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | I'd rather we make sure that Octavia is a solid replacement for the ref. impl.... | 20:35 |
| xgerman | well, Sam *really* wants this | 20:35 |
| dougwig | blogan_: that work is in the main service plugin, right? | 20:35 |
| blogan_ | well what has neutron-lbaas accomplished for L? | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | Because if it's not, our project loses credibility. | 20:35 |
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| blogan_ | dougwig: independent pools? | 20:35 |
| dougwig | blogan_: yes | 20:35 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: yeah but maybe some work with the backends as well | 20:36 |
| xgerman | one more driver | 20:36 |
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| blogan_ | drivers i mean | 20:36 |
| xgerman | yeah, it might be too rushed | 20:36 |
| blogan_ | but i think every driver probably allows independent pools | 20:36 |
| blogan_ | except octavia at this point | 20:36 |
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| blogan_ | but that'd be worked on in parallel | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:36 |
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| xgerman | well, we also need to finish all the other work | 20:37 |
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| dougwig | sbalukoff/evgenyf - can you guys make a list of what's left and an expected timeline, and then we can circle with the L-3 folks? | 20:37 |
| blogan_ | but exposing to API is just service plugin work | 20:37 |
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| sbalukoff | If we merge evgeny's patch (which is honestly pretty much ready to be merged), then in order to deliver this for Liberty we need to solve the independent pools problem for Neutron LBaaS and Octavia, do the L7 stuff for Octavia, and also do it for the namespace driver for good measure (which, again, is mostly done) | 20:37 |
| blogan_ | oh and db work | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | right. | 20:37 |
| evgenyf | dougwig: sure, how abiut to have it on the ML | 20:38 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: ha, i didn't mean right now. :) | 20:38 |
| xgerman | sounds good | 20:38 |
| johnsom_ | And tempest test | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | So... it's a lot of medium-to-small work kind of stuff. | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Oh yes, tempest test. | 20:38 |
| dougwig | let's get an etherpad going with a plan, then we can ML that. | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Which I have no idea how difficult is to do. | 20:38 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:38 |
| blogan_ | i personally dont see it making it in | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | evgenyf: Do you want to do that etherpad, or shall I? | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | blogan_: +1 | 20:39 |
| dougwig | that depends on how motivated evgenyf is. i'm willing to give him a shot. | 20:39 |
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| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:39 |
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| blogan_ | if independent pools is a must, which seems like it is, its too much work for too little time | 20:39 |
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| evgenyf | sbalukoff. I will | 20:39 |
| dougwig | priority is likely octavia first, l7 second. | 20:39 |
| blogan_ | horizon? | 20:39 |
| dougwig | can we do horizon quick now? | 20:39 |
| evgenyf | sbalukoff: I will | 20:39 |
| dougwig | we've got the repo and initial code. has there been any activity since then? | 20:40 |
| xgerman | haven’t heard from vivek_ebay in a while so | 20:40 |
| blogan_ | i dont even know who's working on it, i havent even tested it out bc im a horrible dev | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | blogan_: I'd be willing to call the independent pools problem a "bug" which affects the ability to utilize some features of the new L7 patch... but I realize that might be stretching the truth a bit. ;) | 20:40 |
| xgerman | probably safe to move horizon to M | 20:40 |
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| sbalukoff | #action evgenyf to do etherpad, start ML discussion of remaining L7 tasks. | 20:41 |
| blogan_ | i think its more like a cockroach that has been mutated by radiation | 20:41 |
| dougwig | can all of the neutron-lbaas cores take a look at the horizon patch (and anyone else, of course.) but neutron-lbaas cores are also cores in that repo. | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | (I don't know if I can add action items, eh.) | 20:41 |
| xgerman | #action evgenyf to do etherpad, start ML discussion of remaining L7 tasks. | 20:41 |
| xgerman | for good measure | 20:41 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:42 |
| ajmiller | dougwig will look | 20:42 |
| evgenyf | I tried vivek's horizon patch, merged it, restarted, the new section did not show up, left it there | 20:42 |
| xgerman | thanks ajmiller | 20:42 |
| xgerman | evgenyf good to know | 20:42 |
| blogan_ | evgenyf: how does that get loaded into horizon? | 20:43 |
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| dougwig | it might be a new panel that needs to get added to /etc/openstack_dashboard, but i haven't looked | 20:43 |
| * dougwig runs off to dentist. | 20:43 | |
| evgenyf | I merged the code into horizon dashboard like vivek said | 20:43 |
| evgenyf | bunch of new files and new import, that;s it | 20:44 |
| blogan_ | okay | 20:44 |
| blogan_ | hmm | 20:44 |
| xgerman | mmh, let’s try and update on the ML | 20:45 |
| blogan_ | ive gotta head to the dentist soon as well | 20:45 |
| rm_work | airport soon for me | 20:45 |
| xgerman | blogan_ you and dougwig use the same dentist? | 20:45 |
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| xgerman | same teeth? | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | So, I was in a meeting yesterday with IBM bluemix people giving me a demo of the GUI work they did around neutron LBaaS v1... it was prettty good. I think I also made a really strong case for them moving to v2 as soon as possible. If there's interest, I can ping them about the possibility of getting engineering talent on an upstream LBaaS v2 horizon UI. :/ | 20:45 |
| evgenyf | xgerman: will do | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:45 |
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| xgerman | sbalukoff the more the merrier | 20:45 |
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| blogan_ | yeah i'm seeing dougwig's dentist, he's doing a remote root canal | 20:46 |
| blogan_ | on me | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Okeedokee! | 20:46 |
| blogan_ | with a robotic arm | 20:46 |
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| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:46 |
| crc32 | I hope they hit a nerve | 20:46 |
| xgerman | dougwig is probably driving that | 20:46 |
| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:47 | |
| xgerman | really brief | 20:47 |
| blogan_ | so for the neutorn lbaas talk for Liberty, if horizon and L7 dont get in, we only have one thing accomplished, octavia as ref impl | 20:47 |
| xgerman | yep, and that is huge!! | 20:47 |
| johnsom_ | health manager is fully functional (DB is updated for status and stats). Working on finishing up updating unit tests | 20:47 |
| blogan_ | its huge but takes up like 1 minute of talk time | 20:47 |
| rm_work | yeah but ... not sure it will be perceived as quite as momentus as we see it :) | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:47 |
| xgerman | rm_work we also have active-passive | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | That's true. | 20:48 |
| xgerman | huge as I said | 20:48 |
| rm_work | yeah that is true | 20:48 |
| rm_work | and ... TLS? | 20:48 |
| blogan_ | thats a huge review to merge before the deadline | 20:48 |
| rm_work | TLS is in actually, and wasn't, right? | 20:48 |
| blogan_ | and its not a requirement for ref impl | 20:48 |
| blogan_ | it was in | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | And it's not the only one that would need to be reviewed / merged. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | TLS was enabled in lbaas in K? | 20:48 |
| xgerman | I will try to strongram dougwig for an extension | 20:48 |
| blogan_ | yes | 20:49 |
| rm_work | T_T k | 20:49 |
| blogan_ | just found out there were no docs about it | 20:49 |
| blogan_ | but it was there | 20:49 |
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| xgerman | yep | 20:49 |
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| TrevorV | I need some eyes again on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202336/ | 20:49 |
| rm_work | no idea how it would have worked | 20:49 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202336/ | 20:49 |
| xgerman | johnsom demoed it on stage | 20:49 |
| rm_work | since we JUST managed to merge the final commits to make it work | 20:49 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | I'll work hard on getting my stuff updated and stable. I apologize I've not gotten y'all an updated patch yet. | 20:49 |
| TrevorV | I think its ready for merging in its most basic failover form | 20:49 |
| TrevorV | I just tested it. | 20:49 |
| johnsom_ | Cool | 20:50 |
| xgerman | grande | 20:50 |
| blogan_ | ok dentist time | 20:50 |
| blogan_ | talk to yall later | 20:50 |
| johnsom_ | Enjoy | 20:50 |
| madhu_ak | for TLS tests, looks like adam is working on setting up barbican with devstack and that test can be tested | 20:50 |
| xgerman | good luck | 20:50 |
| TrevorV | johnsom_, captures the routes, adds the haproxy config, and I tested with a LB with a listener, pool, member, and health monitor. | 20:50 |
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| TrevorV | I also tested failing over a failed-over amphora | 20:50 |
| rm_work | madhu_ak: yeah, soon barbican will support the new plugin method so we can actually use it correctly in our devstack gates | 20:51 |
| TrevorV | To make sure it couldn't only fail over once :D | 20:51 |
| johnsom_ | Nice | 20:51 |
| bana_k | testing and will continue | 20:51 |
| xgerman | rm-work nice | 20:51 |
| rm_work | which involves me fiddling with THEIR gate right before freeze <_< | 20:51 |
| madhu_ak | nice ram_work | 20:51 |
| xgerman | thanks bana_k | 20:51 |
| madhu_ak | rm_Work | 20:51 |
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| xgerman | I like ram_work | 20:52 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:52 |
| madhu_ak | heh | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:52 |
| madhu_ak | time to change his nick | 20:52 |
| xgerman | ok, I guess we can move to | 20:52 |
| rm_work | T_T | 20:52 |
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| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:52 | |
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| rm_work | time to head to the airport, maybe i'll wave at the Seattle HP people on Friday | 20:52 |
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| xgerman | yeah, stop by I am sure they can hook you up with red bull and stuff | 20:53 |
| ajmiller | rm_work ping us if you have a chance... | 20:53 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:53 |
| madhu_ak | if there is any open task needs to be done, I can try to work on it | 20:53 |
| bana_k | any other tasks to be done ? | 20:53 |
| rm_work | i'll prolly be occupied most of the day, but i can wave in passing at least :P | 20:53 |
| rm_work | we'll see | 20:53 |
| rm_work | the convention center will be BONKERS, so have fun with that | 20:53 |
| xgerman | well, In saw a potential L7 tempest test made_ak | 20:54 |
| xgerman | mshu_ak | 20:54 |
| rm_work | ridiculous number of people will be there | 20:54 |
| madhu_ak | madhu_Ak | 20:54 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:54 |
| madhu_ak | sure, can take a look into it. best person to reach? | 20:54 |
| xgerman | sync with sbalukoff and evgeny | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | bana_k: I don't think anyone has started on the L7 work for Octavia directly yet. I can give you pointers on that if you'd like. | 20:54 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:54 |
| madhu_ak | awesome, I can sync with them | 20:55 |
| johnsom_ | +1 | 20:55 |
| xgerman | also there was an ask for performance tests | 20:55 |
| bana_k | sbalukoff, that do be great. | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | xgerman, who asked that? | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:55 |
| xgerman | dougwig | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig was asking earlier | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | kk | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | just curious | 20:55 |
| xgerman | TrevorV you guys have a lb? | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | However, I would consider a performance problem to be a "bug" | 20:56 |
| xgerman | lab? | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | So... work on it after this week. In the short term, let's get that Octavia as a reference driver done. | 20:56 |
| xgerman | +1000 | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | So any review work that needs to be done to make that happen... let's get that done! | 20:56 |
| madhu_ak | yep.. please let me know how I can seek more details on performance tests. Any pointers is appreciated | 20:56 |
| TrevorV | xgerman, we have lab space we've been testing our implementation and such, if blogan were still here he'd have more info. ptoohill anything to add here? | 20:56 |
| xgerman | cool, yeah, I will have numbers next year ;-) | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:57 |
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| xgerman | yep, we are still kilo in HP land | 20:57 |
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| xgerman | anyway, we probably need to get dougwig to file extensions | 20:58 |
| xgerman | will work on that... | 20:58 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 20:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 26 20:58:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-08-26-20.00.html | 20:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-08-26-20.00.txt | 20:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-08-26-20.00.log.html | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 20:58 |
| xgerman | Thanks!! | 20:58 |
| bana_k | bbye | 20:59 |
| evgenyf | thanks, bye | 20:59 |
| madhu_ak | bye | 20:59 |
| xgerman | hope that’s not too late for you evgenyf | 20:59 |
| xgerman | our meeting time | 20:59 |
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