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| sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 3 00:00:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 00:00 |
| sc68cal | #chair SridarK | 00:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal | 00:00 |
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| annp | Hi | 00:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 00:00 |
| * sc68cal has been sick this week - so will be leaning on SridarK and xgerman a bit tonight | 00:00 | |
| xgerman | :-) | 00:00 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: hope u feel better - no worries | 00:00 |
| sc68cal | #chair xgerman | 00:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman | 00:00 |
| bharathm | \o | 00:00 |
| badveli | hello all | 00:01 |
| xgerman | yeah, hope so | 00:01 |
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| sc68cal | just a cold, so been working from bed / couch | 00:01 |
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| sc68cal | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS | 00:01 |
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| sc68cal | #topic action items from last meeting | 00:02 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: i did some scrubbing there is still some old stuff that i will clean out as well | 00:02 |
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| sc68cal | SridarK: cool. thanks :) | 00:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:02 |
| mickeys | Hi. Did not realize the channel changed | 00:03 |
| xgerman | we try to keep you on your toes | 00:03 |
| sc68cal | mickeys: we conflicted with the API WG I think, so I had to change the location | 00:03 |
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| sc68cal | Action items from last week were for cores to just triage bugs | 00:03 |
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| sc68cal | and speaking of which | 00:04 |
| sc68cal | #topic bugs | 00:04 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: yes quick run thru - nothing major to report there | 00:04 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 00:04 |
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| sc68cal | I see Lin opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1491637 | 00:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491637 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Error when adding a new Firewall Rule" [Undecided,New] | 00:05 |
| SridarK | yes as reported earlier today - | 00:05 |
| sc68cal | bharathm: I think we need a bug to track your issue from the ML around router_info and updates | 00:06 |
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| bharathm | sc68cal: it's not me. I work with German for HP. Whereas that Bharath is from Brocade :-) | 00:07 |
| sc68cal | bharathm: ah, sorry | 00:07 |
| xgerman | yeah, even I occasionally make that mistake | 00:07 |
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| bharathm | However that error needs to be addressed. xgerman requested him to create a launchpad bug to follow up | 00:08 |
| xgerman | yep | 00:08 |
| SridarK | Hmm it seems this is just seen according to his email | 00:08 |
| sc68cal | we should see if we have a tempest scenario somewhere that covers the scenario he describes | 00:09 |
| sc68cal | if I read correctly, it's the case of not getting updates | 00:09 |
| SridarK | if it is just adding a new fw rule, i did that on the CLI some time ago and it was fine | 00:10 |
| jwarendt_ | Isn't this a horizon issue - not server side- and wasn't horizon was working a few days ago? | 00:11 |
| SridarK | yes it seems only horizon | 00:11 |
| xgerman | yep | 00:11 |
| SridarK | not sure sure if anything changed there | 00:11 |
| bharathm | I think it's two different bugs he's referring to in two separate emails | 00:12 |
| SridarK | and he seems to imply it is very recent regression | 00:12 |
| jwarendt_ | bharathm - can you clarify with bug numbers? | 00:13 |
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| SridarK | Vish, who is not on today - is familiar with Horizon side of FWaaS - i will reach out to him as well | 00:14 |
| sc68cal | jwarendt_: heh - bharathm != bharath | 00:14 |
| bharathm | jwarendt_ : https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1491637 is the horizon bug | 00:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491637 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Error when adding a new Firewall Rule" [Undecided,New] | 00:14 |
| bharathm | But there was another email dated Aug 30 with the same subject where he had issue with the router info update | 00:15 |
| bharathm | I dont think a bug was filed for that | 00:15 |
| sc68cal | yeah he likes that subject line .... :) | 00:15 |
| jwarendt_ | Sry, and thanks for the clarification. | 00:15 |
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| sc68cal | jwarendt_: no worries - I did it like 5 mins ago :) | 00:16 |
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| xgerman | and me like two hours ago :-) | 00:17 |
| bharathm | sc68cal: Actually I am facing a similar issue in my devstack setup.. When new routers/fips' are created after the FW create, these new namespaces are not getting updated automatically | 00:17 |
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| xgerman | yeah, we need to (re=add) the rioters to force an update | 00:17 |
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| xgerman | wonder when this Neutron event bus comes out... | 00:17 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: bharathm - that's .... not good. | 00:18 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: hmm | 00:18 |
| bharathm | xgerman and I found a work around to use "neutron firewall_update {name} --router {router_id} --router {router_id2}" | 00:18 |
| badveli | sridark i think we tahught about this | 00:18 |
| SridarK | now u have to explicitly bind a router to a FW | 00:18 |
| xgerman | well, worse is the same happens with floating ip | 00:18 |
| xgerman | I am ok with routers not being updated after all we don’t list them in fiorewall-show | 00:19 |
| SridarK | xgerman: ok that is something else :-) i am not claiming responsibility | 00:19 |
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| bharathm | SridarK: it happens with fip too though the fip belongs to the existing router with fw rules configured | 00:19 |
| badveli | but i do not think we will have the issue | 00:19 |
| SridarK | xgerman: we do show the routers | 00:19 |
| badveli | we should not have the issue | 00:19 |
| xgerman | yep, so I am ok with the routers not being updates/added automatically but fips bother me | 00:19 |
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| xgerman | since we don’t show a user which fits we cover | 00:20 |
| SridarK | bharathm: if we have new router and there is an existing FW, then u need to update the FW if u want it on the new router | 00:20 |
| xgerman | fips | 00:20 |
| SridarK | the old model we installed the FW on all routers in the tenant | 00:20 |
| xgerman | SridarK correct | 00:20 |
| SridarK | something we wanted to move away from and we did with Kilo | 00:20 |
| bharathm | SridarK: I agree. But what about creating a FIP after the FW is applied | 00:20 |
| SridarK | Hmm that we need to see | 00:21 |
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| bharathm | As I do not see any event trigger from L3 Agent or new_namespace_check at set intervals, new FIP namespaces are completely ignored | 00:21 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:21 |
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| sc68cal | so basically traffic inbound to a FIP doesn't get filtered via the firwall | 00:22 |
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| sc68cal | ? | 00:22 |
| SridarK | bharathm: there is supposed to be an event triggered - that we listen too | 00:22 |
| bharathm | sc68cal: correct | 00:22 |
| xgerman | yep, and that event is not happening | 00:22 |
| SridarK | hmm ok need some debugging on that | 00:22 |
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| sc68cal | Ok - let's get a bug opened for that one so we can start tracking | 00:22 |
| SridarK | bharathm: is there a bug on this already ? | 00:22 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: +1 | 00:22 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:22 |
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| bharathm | SridarK: Oh. May be I didn't dive deep enough to find that event triggering source code | 00:23 |
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| badveli | sridark the l3agent observer | 00:23 |
| badveli | part should be done correct? | 00:23 |
| SridarK | bharathm: yes i believe we tested that | 00:23 |
| bharathm | sc68cal: I shall create the bug | 00:23 |
| xgerman | thanks | 00:23 |
| SridarK | badveli: we have not yet moved to the observer model | 00:23 |
| SridarK | but the code should get triggered from L3Agent | 00:24 |
| sc68cal | bharathm: excellent. Thanks. | 00:24 |
| badveli | yes we thaught this case should be covered | 00:24 |
| SridarK | bharathm: cool thx - shoot me an email too and we do a quick run thru this and try to narrow down | 00:24 |
| xgerman | awesome!! | 00:24 |
| bharathm | SridarK: that's great. Will do that | 00:24 |
| SridarK | badveli: yes that was my thought too at least when this was done in Juno | 00:25 |
| badveli | yes sridark we even discussed this | 00:25 |
| badveli | with dvr team and i am suprised | 00:25 |
| SridarK | there me and my big mouth saying nothing major on bugs :-) | 00:25 |
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| bharathm | Heh | 00:25 |
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| xgerman | well, there is a workaround: just re-add the router | 00:26 |
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| badveli | xgerman this is not we intended and i was under the impression of the new observer model | 00:26 |
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| bharathm | badveli: is there a spec I could refer to about this observer model ? | 00:26 |
| sc68cal | SridarK: :) | 00:27 |
| SridarK | xgerman: ok i recall going thru this scenario before we added a trigger in another place in L3Agent | 00:27 |
| badveli | bharathm i do not have a spec | 00:27 |
| SridarK | ok something clearly is broken - need some debugging | 00:27 |
| badveli | but i will try to send some info | 00:27 |
| bharathm | badveli: cool. Thanks | 00:27 |
| xgerman | ok, let’s move on — sc68cal other things we need to hit? | 00:27 |
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| sc68cal | xgerman: I think the only thing at this point is the observation that our test coverage needs improvement | 00:28 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: +1 | 00:28 |
| xgerman | +! | 00:28 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:28 |
| sc68cal | and we need more tempest scenario tests for common fwaas opeartions | 00:28 |
| bharathm | +1 | 00:28 |
| badveli | sc68cal: initially we were trying to add functional tests | 00:28 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: this should be our step 0 in the roadmap | 00:29 |
| badveli | and then move on to scenario tests | 00:29 |
| sc68cal | we should have had a tempest scenario for - create firewall+policy+rules, then start adding FIPs and deleting and other types of common things | 00:29 |
| SridarK | badveli: yes u were trying to feet some traction here | 00:29 |
| badveli | yes sridark | 00:29 |
| madhu_ak | I think we need to move tests from neutron to fwaas repo? | 00:29 |
| xgerman | yep, that is step -1 | 00:29 |
| badveli | madhu_ak currently the unit tests are under fwaas | 00:29 |
| SridarK | xgerman: :-) | 00:29 |
| badveli | and we are adding functional tests and scenario tests in fwaas | 00:30 |
| madhu_ak | ok sounds good | 00:30 |
| xgerman | but there are some tests still in tempest tree we should move over | 00:30 |
| xgerman | or neutron tree | 00:30 |
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| madhu_ak | yep, its in neutron tree | 00:30 |
| badveli | yes we will do | 00:30 |
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| xgerman | cool — once the dust settle we (=HP) can help | 00:31 |
| madhu_ak | +1 | 00:31 |
| sc68cal | does someone want to do a spike on that and report back next week? | 00:31 |
| badveli | i followed up with pcm regarding the functional tests | 00:31 |
| badveli | and then scenario tests | 00:31 |
| * sc68cal hopes for a volunteer | 00:31 | |
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| sc68cal | ok, no volunteers? I'll take the action item then | 00:32 |
| badveli | is there a dead line i can help but very limited time | 00:33 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: pcm has done a lot of this for vpn | 00:33 |
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| sc68cal | it's basically go look and see what is the status and report back, not looking to solve next week | 00:33 |
| SridarK | badveli: may be u can provide a dump of ur discussions with pcm to sc68cal - if u have time that is | 00:33 |
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| badveli | yes pcm had written it | 00:34 |
| badveli | how in wiki | 00:35 |
| sc68cal | #action sc68cal coordinate with badveli and others about scenario and functional tests | 00:35 |
| SridarK | ok that can save some work for sc68cal | 00:35 |
| badveli | ok, thanks | 00:35 |
| sc68cal | I think since we're in l-3 that we can skip blueprints | 00:36 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: +1 no action there for now | 00:36 |
| sc68cal | so I think we can go to open discussion | 00:36 |
| sc68cal | #topic open discussion | 00:36 |
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| xgerman | now with the new time where are our friends from APJ? | 00:37 |
| SridarK | xgerman: good question :-) | 00:37 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: first week must be a teething issue on timing | 00:38 |
| xgerman | probably — sc68cal maybe we need to send another advertisement on the ML | 00:39 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: odd since hoangcx was on the last APAC meting | 00:39 |
| xgerman | yep... | 00:40 |
| sc68cal | If there are no objections, we'll wrap up for today and give everyone back 20 mins | 00:42 |
| xgerman | sounds good | 00:42 |
| jwarendt_ | +1 | 00:42 |
| SridarK | +1 | 00:42 |
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| bharathm | +1 | 00:42 |
| badveli | fine with me | 00:42 |
| sc68cal | ok everyone, until next week - 18:30 UTC | 00:42 |
| badveli | bye | 00:42 |
| SridarK | sounds good | 00:42 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 00:42 |
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| SridarK | bye all | 00:42 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 3 00:42:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-09-03-00.00.html | 00:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-09-03-00.00.txt | 00:43 |
| xgerman | bye | 00:43 |
| bharathm | Bye everyone | 00:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-09-03-00.00.log.html | 00:43 |
| madhu_ak | bye | 00:43 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 3 15:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
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| ameade | o/ | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
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| markstur | hi | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| akerr | o/ | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
| lpabon_ | o/ | 15:00 |
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| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| u_glide | hi | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | also csaba has a topic he couldn't add due to an OpenID failure | 15:01 |
| ganso_ | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic liberty-3 / feature freeze | 15:01 |
| cFouts | hi | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty-3 / feature freeze (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
| ayma_ | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | so liberty-3 was tagged about an hour ago | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/manila/tag/?id=1.0.0.0b3 | 15:02 |
| bswartz | that's the good news | 15:02 |
| bswartz | the bad news is that 7 blueprints and countless bugs were not merged due to a serious gate problem | 15:02 |
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| akerr | do we know the cause of the gate issue? | 15:03 |
| bswartz | we're going to grant technical FFE exceptions for stuff that was ready to merge when the gate broke | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | akerr: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1491325 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491325 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova api v2.1 does not allow to use autodetection of volume device path" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Davanum Srinivas (DIMS) (dims-v) | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | although a technical FFE is no gurauntee that stuff will get in to liberty | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | nova created a bug on Tuesday night which caused problems for us on Wednesday morning | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: actually bug was for a long time, Nova switched us to place where it was located | 15:05 |
| dustins | just us or everyone who touches nova? | 15:05 |
| bswartz | they create a server fix, then blocked the fix, then created a client fix, but did not tag the client fix so it wouldn't help us, and now they have unblocked the original server fix and it's on it s way through the gate again | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: Nova has bug in their API compatibility v2.1 -> v2.0 | 15:06 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Ah, I gotcha, thanks! | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: so this bug is not only for liberty, but also existing stable branches | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | the upshot is that if you add Depends-On: Ibfd83b6abdfeec328019246a372363cada53869e to your patch it should pass gate | 15:07 |
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| csaba | bswartz: I thought what I'm to to is to rebase my patches over said one | 15:08 |
| bswartz | or you can rebase on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219788/ after valeriy updates that one to depend on Ibfd83b6abdfeec328019246a372363cada53869e | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | csaba: dep on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219788/ can make gates more stable | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | csaba: because of workaround of another bug, now in Neutron | 15:09 |
| bswartz | one way or another we will get past the gate problem | 15:09 |
| bswartz | however we need to be aware that we are now eating into bugfixing time | 15:09 |
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| csaba | vponomaryov: so you mean I should resubmit with "Depends-On: I26dd32b1de8cceeaa6dc674092efec683df71889" indeed | 15:10 |
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| csaba | (id of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219788/) | 15:10 |
| bswartz | the FFE for technical reasons will only extend for around a day after the gate becomes unblocked (hopefully by tonight) | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | csaba: you can, but not forced | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | if stuff can't get workflowed by then we will have to push stuff out to mitaka | 15:11 |
| markstur | vponomaryov, You didn't update the depends on there yet | 15:11 |
| bswartz | so anyone that has stuff waiting to go in, make sure you're online and actively working on making your stuff pass check jobs and get your +2s | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: 3 sec ago | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: =) | 15:12 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:12 |
| markstur | vponomaryov, took 4 secs to get to california | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | lol | 15:12 |
| csaba | bswartz: do we discuss the possibility of non-technical FFEs here? | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | csaba: for those we follow the regular process | 15:13 |
| iben | is anyone abel to recommend python 2 versus 3 for converting a bunch of bash scripts ? | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | after you get a -2 you request exception on the ML | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | too windy, dove flies too slow =) | 15:13 |
| iben | sorry for jumping into the meeting - | 15:13 |
| csaba | bswartz: why does something get a -2 that won't be merged to liberty? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | I'll be watching the get closely today and I'll announce the all clear and set the deadline for stuff to merge | 15:14 |
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| cknight | bswartz: Are you going to briefly review the 7 targeted BPs? | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | -2 is just to signal that something isn't ready for merge | 15:14 |
| csaba | OK | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | cknight: yes I want to assuming we have time | 15:15 |
| bswartz | but the way I expect things to go in the next hour or 2 every patch should be resubmitted and start passing check jobs | 15:16 |
| bswartz | when I see that I'll announce a deadline of Friday night or Saturday to get stuff merged again | 15:16 |
| bswartz | and when the deadline arrives we'll -2 stuff as usual | 15:16 |
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| csaba | bswartz: basically what's the difference between "Depends-On: Foo" and being rebased over Foo? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | core reviewers: the moment you see +1 from jenkins start merging stuff that's ready to merge though | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | csaba: depends-on work across projects | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | csaba: honestly I'm surprised it works within a project | 15:18 |
| csaba | ah OK got it so the suggested depends-on because the referred fix is in nova | 15:18 |
| csaba | bulb's up! | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: why surprised? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219788/ should be the first thing that's merged though | 15:19 |
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| markstur | rbase also gives you a chance to deal with merge conflicts. I'd assume depends on would fail that | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: yes, it will, but while it is not, it is ok | 15:19 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: just because it's an inferior way to do things, for the reason markstur said | 15:19 |
| bswartz | okay so let's quickly go through the remaining BPs and bugs and see if any need discussing | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 15:21 |
| bswartz | #topic share migration | 15:21 |
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| cknight | So my concern with share migration is the lack of functional tests. I haven't yet succeeded in getting migration to work. | 15:21 |
| bswartz | this has a -1 about functional tests | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | ganso_: can you add functional tests for it? | 15:22 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I can start working on it right now | 15:22 |
| cknight | This is a major feature, albeit experimental, so it should have some level of Tempest coverage. | 15:22 |
| bswartz | yes my stance is that all features need funcitonal tests coverage | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | ganso_: I also think the concern that others can't get it to work is a problem | 15:23 |
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| markstur | There's always a trade-off of something "experimental" going late in release vs early in the next | 15:23 |
| bswartz | who else has downloaded and tested migrations? | 15:23 |
| markstur | crickets | 15:23 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I need to see logs and check what errors are poping up | 15:24 |
| bswartz | markstur: the whole point of "experimental" is to make those kinds of distinctions matter less though | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | we're on a 6 month release cycle, which is fairly fast | 15:24 |
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| markstur | Agreed. I like it as experimental. I would suggest waiting otherwise. | 15:24 |
| bswartz | if something misses one release and slips to the next it should not be a big deal | 15:24 |
| bswartz | however experimental lets us merge stuff when its ready and get feedback earlier | 15:25 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I think that since we are marking it experimental, most bugs, edge cases, incompatiblity with some driver vendors, will be detected in liberty | 15:25 |
| bswartz | so there are 2 concerns that need addressing with migrations | 15:25 |
| akerr | bswartz: but experimental should still work in the majority of common cases | 15:25 |
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| ganso_ | bswartz: if we slip to mitaka, it might still not have a very good coverage because not many people would have tested it | 15:26 |
| bswartz | akerr: experimental APIs should work in at least 1 common case | 15:26 |
| cknight | akerr: +1 Ready == working in some capacity. It could be something I'm doing, but I need to see it working in host-copy mode with my driver. | 15:26 |
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| akerr | 1 common case seems like a really low bar | 15:26 |
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| ganso_ | we cannot guarantee it will work with all drivers at this moment, that is why it is experimental | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I would still like to see migration in liberty, but as we know it needs enhancements in mitaka anyways to work in all cases it would not be terrible to delay the feature | 15:27 |
| ameade | akerr: +1, experimental shouldn't mean half done (lets avoid a philosophical debate) | 15:27 |
| ganso_ | but if it is proved to work with generic driver (and I understand functional test would help prove that) then it is something | 15:27 |
| cknight | ganso_: +1 Working tests will go a long way. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | ameade: yes that's important | 15:28 |
| ameade | ganso_: I am cool with it only working with generic | 15:28 |
| tbarron | ganso_: +1 | 15:28 |
| bswartz | however ganso_ has had code in gerrit for MONTHS and nobody started seriously testing it until last few weeks | 15:28 |
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| akerr | agree, i just don't think experimental should be used to merge what are essentially WIP patches. If it works in generic that's fine | 15:28 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: +1 | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | liberty has been complicated with the dependencies caused by share instances | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | akerr: functional tests say us that it works | 15:29 |
| ganso_ | I also had a patch to work without share instances, we discussed that in a meeting, the one which had a driver_id field | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | akerr: there is no such for the moment | 15:29 |
| bswartz | let's give ganso_ a chance to add functional tests and show that it works | 15:30 |
| bswartz | we have to move on due to time | 15:30 |
| markstur | +1 | 15:30 |
| bswartz | #topic consistency groups | 15:30 |
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| markstur | +1 for working working migration (and moving on) | 15:30 |
| bswartz | this one has 4 patchsets | 15:31 |
| akerr | 5 if you include generic driver and tempest tests | 15:31 |
| ameade | there are 5 changesets if you count generic driver | 15:31 |
| bswartz | support for CGs was added to the generic driver recently at my request | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: do not say twice twice =) | 15:31 |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manila-consistency-groups | 15:31 |
| bswartz | akerr: ^ | 15:31 |
| akerr | bswartz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215346/ | 15:32 |
| ameade | most of these patches have been reviewed by vponomaryov, u_glide, and xyang1 | 15:32 |
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| ameade | first patch in the chain | 15:33 |
| ameade | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215343/ | 15:33 |
| bswartz | looks like the base of the dependency chain now has a depends-on for valeriy's gatefix so we should see these pass check jobs in an hour or so | 15:33 |
| cknight | ameade: I've also reviewed them extensively internally for weeks. The quality is high, IMO. | 15:33 |
| ameade | there are patches for both netapp cdot and generic driver support | 15:33 |
| ameade | it's been heavily tested with both | 15:33 |
| cknight | u_glide: We need you to look at the rebase on share instances. | 15:33 |
| bswartz | xyang1: you were the one who raised concerns about the API design with this one, are you satisfied? | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: Nova's one of jobs failed | 15:34 |
| u_glide | cknight: I will take a look | 15:34 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: I have not got chance to take another look | 15:34 |
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| ameade | u_glide: ty, i added all the unittest coverage i had missed and i believe i addressed all the other comments | 15:34 |
| bswartz | xyang1: if you have issues express them soon | 15:34 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: Ok | 15:35 |
| bswartz | otherwise I feel okay about merging CGs | 15:35 |
| ameade | they will need to be rebased on top of version 2 when that merges | 15:35 |
| bswartz | it was just before the deadline, but the quality was good, and furthermore the way the feature is implemented puts little risk on existing codepaths | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | most importantly, it's marked experimental so we can fix anything that needs fixing or we can even choose to revert it in mitaka if it turns out to be terrible | 15:36 |
| akerr | v2 patch should be leaving our internal gate in about 8 minutes | 15:36 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: It will be better for such a big change to be submitted earlier though | 15:36 |
| bswartz | xyang1: absolutely agree | 15:37 |
| bswartz | I set the deadline so that we'd all have 2 weeks to review stuff | 15:37 |
| markstur | for manila-client, we have CG and migration in "L3" | 15:37 |
| bswartz | if 2 weeks isn't enough for big things we need to talk about moving the FPF date for Mitaka to 3 weeks maybe | 15:37 |
| markstur | I assume those go with the features | 15:38 |
| xyang1 | But such a big change should have more than 2 weeks review time | 15:38 |
| bswartz | markstur: the client LP is a bit of a mess | 15:38 |
| ameade | markstur: +1 | 15:38 |
| lpabon_ | bswartz: i thought we discussed at Vancouver that CGs for file systems didn't really apply as they do for block, or did I miss something | 15:38 |
| bswartz | markstur: we'll clean that up later | 15:39 |
| bswartz | xyang1: what do you propose? an earlier deadline for "big" features and a later deadline for "small" features? | 15:39 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: I think that is better | 15:39 |
| bswartz | it's not a bad idea, except that it will be hard to draw the line between big and small | 15:39 |
| lpabon_ | I guess my question is, what is the use case for CGs for file systems? Was one found? | 15:39 |
| cknight | lpabon_: There are definitely use cases for CGs with file systems, most notably databases with data and logs on different paths. | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | everyone will claim that their feature is really small | 15:40 |
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| lpabon_ | cknight: ah i see, so that logs could be on a different volume type, since they are write only | 15:40 |
| tbarron | well, no one will claim that for CGs :-) | 15:41 |
| bswartz | lpabon_: the database that uses multiple shares use case was a compelling one for me | 15:41 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1 for moving FPF earlier. | 15:41 |
| markstur | At mid-cycle it seemed we'd wait on CG until we had better defined customer need. It seeme "experimental" has helped move things up (plus working code!) | 15:41 |
| lpabon_ | yeah, i could see that, but most of dbs that do that use raw access to block storage afaik... but I could see a use case for file based logs | 15:42 |
| bswartz | the topic of the Mitaka FPF will be discussed and decided later | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | in the interest of time we have to move on though | 15:42 |
| bswartz | again, please use gerrit to provide feedback | 15:42 |
| bswartz | #topic Mount Automation Framework | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/mount-automation-framework | 15:43 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: We can measure by number of lines, not include tests? | 15:43 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201669/ | 15:43 |
| cknight | I've read through this one, it seems fine. | 15:43 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: ^ needs rebase | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: why? | 15:43 |
| bswartz | xyang1: let's discuss it in tokyo | 15:43 |
| xyang1 | Ok | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is ok, its dependency is merged | 15:43 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: gate fix | 15:43 |
| cknight | But I'd again ask about Tempest coverage. vponomaryov, is it needed? | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: it is desired | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: but we do not have strict requirement | 15:44 |
| bswartz | cknight: this feature is an internal one -- no API impact | 15:44 |
| cknight | bswartz: Good point. | 15:44 |
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| cknight | bswartz: We still want a contrib example of how a client could use this for automounts, right? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | the plan was to provide samples for how it can be used, but ultimately it's up to admins to implement the hooks | 15:44 |
| bswartz | cknight: yes I'm expecting contrib/docs samples for how to use this feature | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: we have POC in gerrit | 15:45 |
| bswartz | but the feature itself looks mergeable to me | 15:45 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1 | 15:45 |
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| vponomaryov | note: it is in "base" condition | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | and definitely will require updates | 15:45 |
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| cknight | vponomaryov: Can you clarify? What else is needed? | 15:45 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: rebase on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219788/ would make it easier to pass through gate | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: like ganso proposed , could be added info about share servers in notification | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: that is not there atm | 15:46 |
| lpabon_ | cknight: is there a way for a driver to use the automount code to insert something into the VM.. like say.. a glusterfs ssl certificate :-) | 15:46 |
| bswartz | lpabon_: it's not a feature for drivers, it's a tool for the admin | 15:47 |
| lpabon_ | :( | 15:47 |
| bswartz | the admin could choose to use it in the way you suggest | 15:47 |
| lpabon_ | :) | 15:47 |
| lpabon_ | cool | 15:47 |
| bswartz | but we'd need to provide docs/samples for that use case and it would be up to the admin to do it | 15:47 |
| lpabon_ | true | 15:48 |
| bswartz | the tricky thing about mount automation is that because it means so many different things to different people, all solutions will have to have some administrator involvement | 15:48 |
| vponomaryov | <offtopic> there is local fix for Nova bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220204/ in Manila</offtopic> | 15:48 |
| bswartz | there will never be a one-size-fits-all mount automation solution I'm afraid | 15:49 |
| bswartz | please register issues with that patch in gerrit if you have any | 15:49 |
| bswartz | moving on... | 15:49 |
| bswartz | #topic tempest plugin | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tempest plugin (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:49 | |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/tempest-plugin-interface | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201955/ | 15:50 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: you here? | 15:50 |
| bswartz | I've been trying to get this one to pass gate | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | the silence is really loud on this one | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | I'll assume no discussion is needed and we'll try to keep it moving | 15:51 |
| cknight | bswartz: I don't understand the benefit of this one. | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | please review it if you have issues | 15:51 |
| bswartz | #topic Add Windows SMB share support | 15:52 |
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| vponomaryov | cknight: benefit of having tempest plugin? | 15:52 |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/windows-smb-support | 15:52 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: yes | 15:52 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200154/ | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: clear interface and no hacking on tempest | 15:52 |
| cknight | bswartz: The Windows driver has been reviewed and is ready, we've just been waiting on CI voting. | 15:52 |
| bswartz | this hasn't been through the check pipeline since the gate breakage | 15:52 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: OK, I'll defer to your Tempest expertise, then. | 15:53 |
| bswartz | I think it's ready but lpetrut might need to rebase it | 15:53 |
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| vponomaryov | cknight: +1, waiting for CI reporting that it is able to create shares in general | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | any discussion on new Windows SMB driver | 15:53 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: where is image for it? | 15:54 |
| vponomaryov | lpetrut? | 15:54 |
| bswartz | this driver has CI, although it's a little funky at the moment | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | the reporting format is garbled, but it's clearly running | 15:54 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: raise your issues in gerrit please | 15:55 |
| bswartz | #topic Consistency groups in NetApp cDOT drivers | 15:55 |
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| cknight | bswartz: This one goes hand-in-hand with CGs, and it's been tested thoroughly with akerr's CG Tempest tests. It was used as a model for the generic driver CG patch. | 15:55 |
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| cknight | bswartz: Shouldn't be controversial ;-) | 15:56 |
| bswartz | yes hopefully this should be a no-brainer assuming the CG core work is fine | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | also it can serve as a model for others implementing CGs | 15:56 |
| bswartz | although if anyone has issues raise them in gerrit | 15:56 |
| bswartz | #topic (last one) GlusterFS | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | this has a large number of patches | 15:57 |
| bswartz | #link | 15:57 |
| cknight | bswartz: Yes, and limited reviews on some of them. | 15:57 |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/modular-glusterfs-share-layouts | 15:57 |
| cknight | csaba: Is this an all-or-nothing thing? | 15:57 |
| bswartz | csaba: does these ALL need to go in or can we start merging from the root? | 15:57 |
| bswartz | lol same question | 15:57 |
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| csaba | cknight: well the point of the whole series is the last two patches | 15:58 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:58 |
| bswartz | well splitting it up for the reviewer's benefit is appreciated | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | I guess we'll ask reviewers to review the whole chain though and workflow backwards | 15:59 |
| cknight | bswartz: The code seems OK, although there are some unit test gaps in exception paths I'd like to see covered. | 15:59 |
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| csaba | cknight: coverage is now at ~100% | 15:59 |
| cknight | csaba: Thanks, I'll look again. | 15:59 |
| bswartz | csaba: have you rebased on the gate fix? | 15:59 |
| bswartz | gah we're out of time! | 15:59 |
| bswartz | we need to discuss bugs | 15:59 |
| csaba | bswartz: rebased yesterday over the patch you inidcated | 15:59 |
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| csaba | isthat the same as said today? | 16:00 |
| bswartz | please come over to the #openstack-manila channel to discuss bugs | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 3 16:00:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-09-03-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-09-03-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-09-03-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
| xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
| xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
| xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
| xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 3 16:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| maximov | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 16:00 |
| rvyalov | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
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| mihgen | hi | 16:00 |
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| ashtokolov | \о/ | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | hi | 16:01 |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:01 |
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| xarses | ok, lets get going | 16:02 |
| xarses | #topic librarian update (mwhahaha) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "librarian update (mwhahaha) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:02 | |
| mwhahaha | As reported last week we are starting the work to prepare versions of the modules on fuel-infra. | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://review.fuel-infra.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bug/1490469 | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | The overall work is also being tracked on a spreadsheet prepared by degorenko. | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P8xJbYyHXnb0W7fVme3jkOUYj4OTCfbplZEYLX7SC0E/edit#gid=1195205959 | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | As you can see from the spreadsheet, mos-puppet and the openstack teams have been working hard to identify and propose the fuel specific changes required. That being said, we have some modules that the fuel-library team should probably take the lead in managing upstream changes and working to prepare a fuel-infra version for the 8.0 cycle. | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | In the spreadsheet we have identified the corosync, haproxy, mysql, openssl, rabbitmq and rsyslog modules as ones that the fuel-library team should take the responsibility of figuring out upstream changes and adapting. | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | As I mentioned last week, many of these modules have diverged from the upstream and may require significant work to flush out a path forward. These modules may continue to live within the fuel-library code base for the 8.0 cycle but I will be spending time to try evaluate how much effort will be involved in moving these to an upstream version. | 16:02 |
| mwhahaha | Questions? | 16:02 |
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| xarses | can you update the sharing rights on the doc? | 16:04 |
| mwhahaha | i don't own it | 16:04 |
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| mwhahaha | but i'll reach out | 16:04 |
| mihgen | thanks mwhahaha | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | who else will work on converging these modules to the upstream ones? | 16:05 |
| mwhahaha | Other than the openstack teams, i'm not aware of anyone else currently working on these | 16:06 |
| mihgen | there is a status column, there are many questions on fuel-library side | 16:06 |
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| mihgen | looks like we'd need to split it between people | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | so to work in parallel ? | 16:07 |
| mwhahaha | Ideally yes, we should identify some people to work on these | 16:07 |
| mwhahaha | i know some people have expressed desire to work on some of these as they have been some tech debt that some are aware of | 16:08 |
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| mihgen | those in fuel-library, who are getting available from bugfixing, may take those | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | I was thinking how do we execute such things | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | we have like ten places with tasks | 16:10 |
| mihgen | looks like we'd need to come up with whether trello or just plain etherpad with list of things | 16:10 |
| mihgen | ensure to sort it in priority order | 16:10 |
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| mihgen | and those who get free from bugs can check against one single place | 16:10 |
| mwhahaha | we can also create bugs for the modules | 16:11 |
| mwhahaha | to assign ownership | 16:11 |
| mwhahaha | I did create a few bugs previous as part of the initial migration | 16:11 |
| mihgen | possibly. Ensure to have "feature" tag on those | 16:11 |
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| mwhahaha | The permissions should be fixed in the spreadsheet | 16:12 |
| mwhahaha | so we can leverage this if that works for everyone | 16:12 |
| mihgen | ok guys - let's sync over email on this, let's move on now | 16:12 |
| xarses | moving on? | 16:12 |
| xarses | =) | 16:12 |
| xarses | #topic HCF bugs reveiw | 16:12 |
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| xarses | Ok, so where going to go through some bugs blocking HCF and discuss status and the like | 16:13 |
| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1490523 (idv1985) | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1490523 in Fuel for OpenStack "OpenStack client hangs forever after simultaneous add/delete controller" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Dmitry Ilyin (idv1985) | 16:13 |
| dilyin | this bug is already fixed, i've added retries and timeout to the openstack provider | 16:14 |
| sgolovatiuk | xarses: as far as I know fix is ready | 16:14 |
| dilyin | now i'm goind to post the changes upstream | 16:14 |
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| mihgen | can you provide a link to patch pls? | 16:14 |
| xarses | good to hear | 16:14 |
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| ashtokolov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219668/ | 16:15 |
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| mihgen | so it's not yet fixed since it's still not merged ;) | 16:16 |
| mihgen | so it's just more retries? | 16:16 |
| aglarendil_ | yep, apache restart lead to wsgi accepting but not processing requests | 16:16 |
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| aglarendil_ | and openstack client was hanging forever | 16:16 |
| aglarendil_ | so we added timeout + retries there | 16:17 |
| xarses | ok, next up | 16:17 |
| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1491725 (kozhukalov) | 16:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491725 in Fuel for OpenStack "Deployment failed with error: <class 'cobbler.cexceptions.CX'>:'MAC address duplicated: 0c:c4:7a:14:25:36'" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Vladimir Kozhukalov (kozhukalov) | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | i am working on this | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220191/ | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | still in progress, testing to make sure nothing was broken by this patch | 16:18 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: scale related only? | 16:18 |
| maximov | what are the chances to fix it till Sunday this week? | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | yep | 16:19 |
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| kozhukalov | it is hard to reproduce | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | but the root cause is that cobbler is not intended to be scalable | 16:19 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: it's only when you remove env and immediatelly create new one? | 16:19 |
| mihgen | or it's just when you remove, not all entries are removed from cobbler? | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | it is when you remove plenty of nodes at the same time | 16:19 |
| mihgen | so it's regardless of the time when you want nw env to be created | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | some of those nodes can be still there | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | and then new env tries to add the same nodes with other names | 16:20 |
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| sgolovatiuk | maybe we need to remove until we are sure all nodes are deleted | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | but cobbler does not allow having two nodes with the same MAC | 16:20 |
| sgolovatiuk | not fire and forget ... | 16:20 |
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| sgolovatiuk | not matter how many cycles we need to delete data from cobbler | 16:21 |
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| mihgen | kozhukalov: so there is a patch from you, | 16:22 |
| aglarendil_ | oh!sleep&retry | 16:22 |
| mihgen | is it close to solution .. ? | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | sgolovatiuk, yes, maybe you are right | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | we need to try again and again | 16:22 |
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| kozhukalov | will add this | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen, yes, patch is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220191/ | 16:23 |
| xarses | just group the deletes into batches? | 16:23 |
| mihgen | question is will it actually lead to success) | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen, it is quite close | 16:23 |
| mihgen | and when we get rid of cobbler ) | 16:23 |
| sgolovatiuk | :) | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | like i said, im working on testing this patch | 16:23 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen, at least we will know that if there are nodes with the same MAC, we will try to remove them | 16:24 |
| mihgen | thanks kozhukalov | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | but yes, it might be not enough | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | I'll add retries | 16:25 |
| xarses | ok, we need to move to get through the others. | 16:25 |
| mihgen | that was probably very hard to understand what happens in this bug.. | 16:25 |
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| maximov | kozhukalov just to confirm - patch is almost ready and we will merge it till Sunday, is this correct understanding? | 16:25 |
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| mattymo_ | pre-emptive delete by mac is probably a smart idea | 16:25 |
| aglarendil_ | folks, just use SDD - sleep driven development | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | maximov, I think yes | 16:25 |
| mihgen | aglarendil_: :) | 16:25 |
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| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1491015 (akislitsky) | 16:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491015 in Fuel for OpenStack "System test 'check_openstack_stat' failed: No JSON object could be decoded" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Alexander Kislitsky (akislitsky) | 16:26 |
| mihgen | xarses: next bug? | 16:26 |
| kozhukalov | aglarendil_, NAADD (Nice Aglarendil Advice Driven Development :-) | 16:26 |
| akislitsky | Patch is on review. Proper fix will be done in 8.0. Now we have workaround. Patch is tested in unit tests and manual on the live env | 16:27 |
| mihgen | sbog: is it stats broken becuase we enabled SSL ? | 16:27 |
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| sbog | mihgen: couple secs | 16:27 |
| akislitsky | mihgen, yep. it is up to enabling SSL | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | quite sad that we catching such things that late in the cycle. . ok akislitsky so your fix is ready to go? | 16:28 |
| mihgen | we just need reviews / small fixes if needed ? | 16:28 |
| sbog | yep, seems so | 16:28 |
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| akislitsky | mihgen, it is ready to be merged | 16:29 |
| mihgen | akislitsky: already by ikalnitsky :) | 16:29 |
| mihgen | cool, thanks guys! | 16:29 |
| xarses | it was just merged | 16:29 |
| mihgen | let's move on) | 16:29 |
| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1491306 (bogdando) | 16:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491306 in Fuel for OpenStack "Rabbit join race with OSTF tests 'RabbitMQ availability' and 'RabbitMQ replication' are failed after reschedule router from primary controller and destroying it" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Bogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) | 16:29 |
| mihgen | bogdando: can you share a bit on what it's about? | 16:31 |
| xarses | seems he's not around | 16:32 |
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| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1491576 - not reproducible anymore! Considered as Invalid | 16:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491576 in Mirantis OpenStack "logrotate script for apache leads to restarting keystone service" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sergii Golovatiuk (sgolovatiuk) | 16:33 |
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| xarses | seems invalid now, the bug doesn't think so though | 16:33 |
| sgolovatiuk | we made manual deployments with dtyzhnenko | 16:33 |
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| sgolovatiuk | I was not able to reproduce it anymore | 16:34 |
| xarses | Ok, can we update the LP then? | 16:34 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: how did you try to repro? | 16:34 |
| sgolovatiuk | I've been trying whole day long | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | how exactly? | 16:34 |
| sgolovatiuk | not reproducible | 16:34 |
| sgolovatiuk | with D. Tyznenko who opened it | 16:35 |
| sgolovatiuk | using steps in bug | 16:35 |
| mihgen | did you try to put some load / ostf, and do apache2 reload on all controllers at the same time | 16:35 |
| sgolovatiuk | yep | 16:35 |
| sgolovatiuk | apache reload is not related | 16:35 |
| sgolovatiuk | it's different bug | 16:35 |
| mwhahaha | doing a reload does restart keystone... | 16:36 |
| mihgen | oh sorry I messed up with another bug, yeah | 16:36 |
| sgolovatiuk | we shouldn't mix them ... but there can be side effect of another bug which is already resolved | 16:36 |
| mihgen | mwhahaha: I'm actually surprised a bit.. | 16:36 |
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| mihgen | reload suppose to be fetching config | 16:36 |
| mihgen | but it actually works like restart | 16:37 |
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| mihgen | is it how wsgi things suppose to work under apache? | 16:37 |
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| mihgen | or may be we should just configure something differently, so that reload is not that dramatic? | 16:37 |
| mwhahaha | yes because keystone services get managed via apache now, so that's to be expected i guess | 16:37 |
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| sgolovatiuk | I don't like mod_wsgi | 16:37 |
| sgolovatiuk | we need to invest time in uwsgi | 16:38 |
| sgolovatiuk | in that case apache will be proxy | 16:38 |
| mwhahaha | would need to get upstream puppet keystone to support it | 16:38 |
| mihgen | mwhahaha: I'm not sure - in order to get logs rotated, we need to restart the whole service... | 16:38 |
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| sgolovatiuk | logrotate - SIGHUP | 16:38 |
| sgolovatiuk | that's enough | 16:38 |
| sgolovatiuk | we don't need to restart apache | 16:38 |
| mihgen | is not apache2 reload actually SIGHUP? | 16:39 |
| mwhahaha | no | 16:39 |
| mihgen | wow | 16:39 |
| mwhahaha | but reload is the same as a graceful | 16:39 |
| * sgolovatiuk nods | 16:39 | |
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| mihgen | well then why do we use apache reload in our logrotate scripts, if we need SIGHUP.. ? | 16:40 |
| mwhahaha | that's the script that ships with apache2 i think | 16:40 |
| mwhahaha | i couldn't find that logrotate script in fuel-library | 16:40 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: sorry I shifted conversation to talk about that bug, not this one.. | 16:40 |
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| xarses | sorry guys, we need to keep moving | 16:41 |
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| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1491576 (holser) | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491576 in Mirantis OpenStack "logrotate script for apache leads to restarting keystone service" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sergii Golovatiuk (sgolovatiuk) | 16:41 |
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| sgolovatiuk | we've already discussed it | 16:41 |
| sgolovatiuk | I am still investigating it | 16:41 |
| xarses | =) | 16:42 |
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| sgolovatiuk | I need a bit of time to produce a review | 16:42 |
| sgolovatiuk | my ETA - end of tomorrow | 16:42 |
| xarses | ok | 16:42 |
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| xarses | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1461562 (ikalnitsky) | 16:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461562 in Fuel for OpenStack "Failed to casting message to the nailgun. RabbitMQ was dead" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Igor Kalnitsky (ikalnitsky) | 16:42 |
| ikalnitsky | ok, guys, we've started facing this issue since beginning of this week | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: this one is really annoying. According to dims, it should be fixed by upgrading rabbitmq.. | 16:43 |
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| ikalnitsky | yeah, it could be | 16:43 |
| mihgen | but I'm not sure if it's gonna be enough, as openstack uses oslo and there are reconnects, etc. | 16:43 |
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| sgolovatiuk | that's not true | 16:43 |
| mihgen | whoops | 16:43 |
| sgolovatiuk | on master node we still have rabbitmq 3.3 | 16:43 |
| ikalnitsky | but i hope the after reverting patches, it will be barely reproducable | 16:43 |
| sgolovatiuk | not 3.5 | 16:43 |
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| ikalnitsky | sgolovatiuk: there's something strange on system level :( | 16:44 |
| sgolovatiuk | I think upgrade to Centos 6.6 affected it | 16:44 |
| dims | mihgen: i said, we have to test with newer rabbitmq and verify heart beats work | 16:44 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: yep, that's why I'm saying that in 8.0 we would upgrade it | 16:44 |
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| ikalnitsky | heartbeats're actually works | 16:44 |
| ikalnitsky | we had 2 sec timeout | 16:44 |
| ikalnitsky | and when astute took up to 100% cpu usage | 16:44 |
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| mihgen | dims: yeah but do you need heartbeats implementations on client side? | 16:44 |
| ikalnitsky | sometimes, 2 sec wasn't enough to send message | 16:44 |
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| mihgen | or it's internal rabbitmq feature? I'm just not sure how it works | 16:45 |
| sgolovatiuk | if message is large :) | 16:45 |
| dims | mihgen: we need to verify what is there on the client side, so far i have not looked at the client side stuff used in astute | 16:45 |
| mihgen | 4mb is large guys? I was sending gigabytes over it back in 2010.. | 16:45 |
| sgolovatiuk | 2 seconds in not enough for 4Mb | 16:45 |
| sgolovatiuk | even on 10GB NIC | 16:46 |
| mihgen | dims: it's likely dumb amqp lib.. | 16:46 |
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| ikalnitsky | and when quite a time of cpu was scheduled to other astute workers | 16:46 |
| ikalnitsky | why we're talking about heartbeats at all? | 16:46 |
| dims | mihgen: ack, i'll take an action item to research what we use :) | 16:46 |
| ikalnitsky | there's no problems with heartbeats | 16:46 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: we'd need to create a bug for 8.0 then to research if new rabbit will help | 16:47 |
| ikalnitsky | our problem is that we can't handle properly our messages, and that's the first action we must do | 16:47 |
| ikalnitsky | i just straced astute and rabbitmq and figured out some strange thing | 16:47 |
| ikalnitsky | the rabbitmq calls shutdown syscall on socket after hearbeat timeout | 16:48 |
| ikalnitsky | but after this, astute successfuly writes to rabbitmq socket | 16:48 |
| ikalnitsky | with not errors | 16:48 |
| ikalnitsky | i have no idea why it's happend | 16:48 |
| ikalnitsky | there must be some error | 16:48 |
| maximov | shutdown can close receiver or sender or both | 16:49 |
| ikalnitsky | but strace shows that "writev" syscall is successful | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | weird.. but how often did we have issues before introducing evgenyl's patch? | 16:49 |
| mihgen | I mean how worth in general paying so much attention to it? | 16:49 |
| ikalnitsky | looks like not often | 16:49 |
| mihgen | we have hundreds of deployments every day.. | 16:50 |
| ikalnitsky | both reverts are merged, so qa will say us how it works :) | 16:50 |
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| ikalnitsky | still, mihgen, we should properly handle submitted messages | 16:50 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: ok. thank you for a quick turn around here | 16:51 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: yep.. looks like it'll need some further research | 16:51 |
| mihgen | 9 min, xarses - moving to the next one? | 16:51 |
| xarses | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1481714 (bogdando) | 16:51 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1481714 in Fuel for OpenStack "Zabbix plugin: Wrong check for RabbitMQ epmd process" [High,New] - Assigned to Maciej Relewicz (rlu) | 16:51 |
| maximov | nurla has concerns that it could be a problem in fuel core | 16:52 |
| maximov | rather then issue in the plugin | 16:52 |
| maximov | I would like to hear comments from bogdando | 16:52 |
| maximov | who triaged it | 16:52 |
| mihgen | yeah it's saying that we run rabbit under root first | 16:52 |
| mihgen | which is weird | 16:52 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: dims: may be you guys know something about it? | 16:53 |
| xarses | seems we are still missing bogdando | 16:53 |
| mihgen | how rabbit starts, is it considered a normal behavior to start as root? | 16:54 |
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| maximov | i think because we start rabbitmq in container | 16:55 |
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| maximov | it is isolated in container | 16:55 |
| dims | mihgen: we probably need bogdando for this as i am not sure | 16:56 |
| xarses | maximov: i thought this was about the controller | 16:56 |
| mwhahaha | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1483249 | 16:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1483249 in Fuel for OpenStack 8.0.x "rabbitmq epmd process running from user 'root'" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Library Team (fuel-library) | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | is it a duplicate? | 16:57 |
| mihgen | this is about controller nodes or master node? | 16:57 |
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| mwhahaha | controller it runs as root initally i think | 16:57 |
| mwhahaha | so i think that's just what it does, why does zabbix care what user it's run as | 16:57 |
| mihgen | on controllers we actually run two rabbits | 16:58 |
| mwhahaha | 1481714 is the zabbix plugin itself, could it be updated to not check the user but just the process is running? | 16:58 |
| mihgen | one for murano | 16:58 |
| mwhahaha | only if murano is enabled | 16:58 |
| mwhahaha | my test env doesn't have murano so i only have one epmd and it's currently running as root | 16:58 |
| mihgen | mwhahaha: +1 | 16:59 |
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| mwhahaha | i would fix the zabbix plugin to not check the user for the epmd to resolve 1481714 | 16:59 |
| mwhahaha | and we can look into what user it's supposed to be running as for 8.0 and fix the other bug | 17:00 |
| maximov | can you add this comment tp bug please, mwhahaha | 17:00 |
| mwhahaha | sure | 17:00 |
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| sgolovatiuk | time! | 17:00 |
| xarses | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 3 17:00:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| mwhahaha | boom | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-09-03-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-09-03-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-09-03-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
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| huichun | hello | 18:00 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 18:00 |
| egafford | Hey all! | 18:00 |
| crobertsrh | hello/ | 18:00 |
| sreshetnyak | o/ | 18:00 |
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| esikachev | o/ | 18:01 |
| vgridnev | hey folks! | 18:01 |
| vgridnev | who is the chair today? | 18:01 |
| * egafford pulls elmiko out of the bushes. | 18:02 | |
| egafford | elmiko? You're doc day guy anyway, it'd certainly be topical. | 18:02 |
| elmiko | i'm here, just distracted by sec stuff | 18:02 |
| egafford | Ah, k. | 18:03 |
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| elmiko | i can give a doc update though | 18:03 |
| elmiko | assuming someone starts the meeting *hint* *hint* | 18:03 |
| crobertsrh | If only SergeyLukjanov were here, he's save the day. | 18:03 |
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| egafford | tmckay: Want to chair? | 18:04 |
| tmckay | honestly, no | 18:04 |
| elmiko | #startmeeting sahara | 18:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 3 18:04:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:04 |
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| elmiko | #char egafford tmckay | 18:04 |
| elmiko | #chair egafford tmckay | 18:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: egafford elmiko tmckay | 18:04 |
| elmiko | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:05 |
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| tmckay | but I can ... hmmm, topics | 18:05 |
| tmckay | alright, elmiko :) | 18:05 |
| egafford | elmiko: cool, was looking for the controls. We can take it from here; thanks. | 18:05 |
| vgridnev | several horizon changes got merged | 18:05 |
| elmiko | ack | 18:05 |
| tmckay | egafford, forgot that elmiko was not going to be here :) | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, some merged, some unmerged | 18:06 |
| egafford | I'm going to try for an FFE on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209683/, so anyone who has a moment to review will receive my appreciation. | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | Please review "our" stuff as much as possible. | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | Yes, especially review ^^^, I think it would be great to have. | 18:06 |
| vgridnev | agreed, need more revies | 18:06 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | ok, It's time make a slight adjustment to out agenda I think, It will make more sense if we replace me with vgridnev for this topic because he is now doing more contribution to horizon from Mirantis side | 18:06 |
| vgridnev | NikitaKonovalov, yep | 18:07 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'll make an edit to the wiki | 18:07 |
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| huichun | does it mean that if I want my current patch merged into L, I should add the patch link to FFE etherpad? | 18:08 |
| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Just did. :) | 18:08 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ok, thanks egafford | 18:08 |
| elmiko | thanks NikitaKonovalov | 18:08 |
| elmiko | er egafford | 18:08 |
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| elmiko | #topic News / updates | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:09 | |
| egafford | crobertsrh: Good question: what is the best and most politically useful path to take for FFEs in horizon? | 18:09 |
| vgridnev | egafford, e-mail to openstack-dev? | 18:10 |
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| crobertsrh | Yeah, that's probably the best place to start | 18:10 |
| tmckay | +1 | 18:10 |
| crobertsrh | it keeps things official | 18:10 |
| egafford | vgridnev, crobertsrh: Sure; just wondering if there were specific people we had contact with or any other communication channels. | 18:11 |
| crobertsrh | Again...we need to be reviewing/using that patch as much as possible. | 18:11 |
| elmiko | i'm at sec. midcycle, some nice progress on credential distribution to nodes and api fuzzing. i'll have some good topics for summit or whenever we want talk about this. | 18:11 |
| elmiko | also, doc progress is moving along. we need more reviews (especially from cores), and there are still docs to pickup | 18:11 |
| vgridnev | egafford, openstack-horizon probably can be used for that | 18:12 |
| huichun | egafford: Hi Ethan, so I should add my patch link to the FFE etherpad? | 18:12 |
| egafford | huichun: Is it a UI patch or a sahara patch? | 18:13 |
| huichun | Sahara patch | 18:13 |
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| huichun | scheduler edp, long times, current has +2 | 18:13 |
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| egafford | huichun: Looking into current policy; I don't know about an FFE etherpad, but sending a mail to the Sahara list is a sensible start (just like Horizon.) We all know that patch has been going for a while | 18:16 |
| egafford | Other statuses? | 18:16 |
| vgridnev | nothing from me | 18:16 |
| egafford | I've been adding doc, reviewing doc, fixing doc, and working on tripleo integration. I think I'll (finally) have patch sets up for that by EONW. | 18:16 |
| vgridnev | oh, no, finally dropped many lines of code: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/sahara+branch:master+topic:bp/drop-hadoop-1,n,z | 18:17 |
| sreshetnyak | I'm working on wait condition support | 18:17 |
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| huichun | egafford: ok I will send a email to mailing list for help | 18:18 |
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| huichun | ops I find that etherpad | 18:19 |
| elmiko | any other news or updates? | 18:20 |
| egafford | I've also been thinking about a summit working session around alternative options for image generation, to allow us to give our customers an easier/more reliable process to generate their own images (and maybe even allow us to use the same code to spin up clusters from "clean" images as we use for image generation outside of sahara.) | 18:20 |
| crobertsrh | egafford: I like it. +1. Certainly worth thinking about. | 18:20 |
| huichun | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-ffes | 18:20 |
| egafford | Pino doesn't seem to be about today, but he's been doing some great work r/t OpenStack image generation that's worth real discussion as a team. I think it could put that process in a much better place. | 18:21 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | egafford: from my experience customers are also asking for the opposite, like have an image that works totally offline | 18:21 |
| sreshetnyak | saharaclient and sahara liberty-3 has been released | 18:21 |
| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Yup, but to have that, and make it work for everyone, they'll still want an easier image generation flow than the one we have. | 18:22 |
| egafford | (This is getting into general discussion.) Any more statuses? sreshetnyak: Cool! | 18:22 |
| egafford | I guess that takes care of the "client release plans" agenda item. | 18:23 |
| egafford | #topic doc days progress | 18:24 |
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| * elmiko rifles through links | 18:24 | |
| crobertsrh | If everyone here took just 1 doc to look at, we'd almost be done. | 18:24 |
| egafford | :) | 18:24 |
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| elmiko | crobertsrh: +1^e6000 | 18:24 |
| vgridnev | Since I was on vacations, I should take 2 or 3 | 18:25 |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-doc-update-day | 18:25 |
| egafford | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-doc-update-day: we're making good progress, but yeah, if everyone can grab just a few, it makes things nicer. | 18:25 |
| huichun | Will update docs after meeting | 18:25 |
| elmiko | we also need reviews, especially from cores. there are several patches that are close to merge | 18:25 |
| crobertsrh | vgridnev: Yes...you are refreshed from vacation. 2 or 3 at a minimum for you! | 18:25 |
| elmiko | all in all though, we are making good progress. many thanks to everyone who is involved =) | 18:26 |
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| egafford | Gosh, I shudder to think how much code / how many reviews vgridnev could do when he's more refreshed than usual. ;) | 18:26 |
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| vgridnev | egafford, good joke | 18:27 |
| huichun | elmiko: hi Michael, does that etherpad for that use? adding the patch link to it | 18:27 |
| huichun | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-ffes | 18:27 |
| egafford | vgridnev: More of a compliment masquerading as a joke, really. | 18:27 |
| elmiko | huichun: i think that etherpad will just be for new features which need exceptions. not docs | 18:29 |
| egafford | huichun, elmiko: +1. Doc cleanup seems to be a test cycle-friendly task. | 18:29 |
| elmiko | but, if you have features which need exemptions, then follow the information in #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureFreeze and add it to the etherpad | 18:29 |
| elmiko | egafford: agreed | 18:30 |
| egafford | Any more status on this? | 18:30 |
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| egafford | sreshetnyak: Anything else to talk about on the client? | 18:31 |
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| egafford | sreshetnyak: We released it; not sure we need a full-on topic about that, unless there were issues. | 18:32 |
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| egafford | #topic Liberty-3 and FFEs | 18:32 |
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| sreshetnyak | egafford: nothing | 18:32 |
| egafford | Cool. | 18:32 |
| egafford | Okay, so huichun's got the one FFE request. Any others currently known? | 18:33 |
| elmiko | i would like to put up an exemption for the improved secret storage | 18:33 |
| egafford | elmiko: Ack; you've been clear about that for a while (which is solid.) | 18:33 |
| elmiko | i have the first patch ready to go which containst the sahara key manager, castellan integration, tests, and proxy user passwords integrated | 18:33 |
| vgridnev | Drop of hadoop 1 should done, I suppose | 18:34 |
| elmiko | i need to create some user docs, then i will post the review as WIP | 18:34 |
| sreshetnyak | from me it's ambari plugin and heat wait conditions | 18:34 |
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| egafford | Nothing in our projects for me. | 18:35 |
| NikitaKonovalov | vgridnev: agree but I'm sure that it's a real feature, I guess none will blame us for merging this w/o a ffe | 18:35 |
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| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Probably still best to file the FFE and just approve it almost automatically, so that there'll be a record. | 18:36 |
| NikitaKonovalov | egafford: yep, makes sense | 18:36 |
| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Although that's a good point; if anyone has QE working this, be sure to let them know not to test anything built on Hadoop 1. | 18:36 |
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| vgridnev | sreshetnyak, I think that we can add wait conditions and ambari plugin to list of FFE it will be good tested | 18:36 |
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| vgridnev | if it will be good tested* | 18:37 |
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| sreshetnyak | vgridnev: I will add it to list of FFE | 18:38 |
| egafford | Anything else here? Good to know the likely set; let's try to get those filed on the list by next meeting. | 18:38 |
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| tmckay | nothing from me. egafford, thank you for hosting. I am in a multi-day fight with openstack and I (hope) am about to win | 18:39 |
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| huichun | hi all, I am preparing the topic for Sahara EDP log improvement, so do you think I can make it as a topic @submmit, currently Sahara EDP has no log detail info for the end users, and sometimes user can not debug his own jar file, just know the result of job, not why failed, he need to login on the VM and find the log himself | 18:39 |
| egafford | tmckay: I feel your pain. I'm almost at the end of the Overcloud War of 2015. Fight on, my brother. | 18:39 |
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| egafford | huichun: Yeah, this is really important. | 18:40 |
| tmckay | huichun, sounds good to me. We can cover it at the meetup if not before | 18:40 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | huichun: do you want to make job logs available through the API? | 18:40 |
| huichun | NikitaKonovalov: yes | 18:41 |
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| egafford | Okay, let's burn through some other agenda items and come back to this in open discussion, if that's okay with everyone. Very important, though, huichun. | 18:41 |
| huichun | and different log level | 18:41 |
| egafford | #topic Sahara / Zaqar integration for guest agents implementation | 18:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sahara / Zaqar integration for guest agents implementation (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:42 | |
| elmiko | imo, we need to setup time to talk with the trove team at summit for the purpose of discussing guest agents and ssh access to worker nodes | 18:43 |
| egafford | elmiko and I had a chat this AM with the Zaqar PTL about an overview of what we're hoping; it sounds like tenant isolation and signed URLs will give us a lot of the sec benefits we're looking for if the sec working group is for the overall approach. | 18:43 |
| egafford | elmiko: Ack, +{1, 2, any positive number} | 18:43 |
| elmiko | they are considering moving to ssh, and we are considering guest agent. we could definitely do some "lessons learned" each way | 18:43 |
| tmckay | that is funny | 18:43 |
| elmiko | yea | 18:44 |
| egafford | We have a lot of the same use cases and problems, and it'd be great to converge on an architecture (and if possible, on common code.) | 18:44 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:44 |
| NikitaKonovalov | +1 | 18:44 |
| egafford | So yeah, Zaqar/Trove/Sahara three-way meeting at summit seems to be the exact right answer. | 18:45 |
| egafford | elmiko: From sec mid-cycle, any discussion of this set of concerns yet? | 18:45 |
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| egafford | Okay, as of this AM there hadn't been much. In the interests of at least 10 minutes of general discussion: | 18:46 |
| egafford | #topic Future of Sahara code inside the Horizon | 18:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Future of Sahara code inside the Horizon (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:46 | |
| egafford | crobertsrh, vgridnev: News here? | 18:47 |
| crobertsrh | No news | 18:47 |
| egafford | (Is this topic needed in the meeting any more?) | 18:47 |
| crobertsrh | I'm still +1 for moving out | 18:47 |
| vgridnev | egafford, yep | 18:47 |
| crobertsrh | Also +1 for not needed in this meeting. | 18:47 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Cool. | 18:47 |
| egafford | #topic Ceilometer at the gate | 18:48 |
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| crobertsrh | If I get some spare cycles, I'll experiment with having our bits in our own repo. | 18:48 |
| egafford | crobertsrh: +a lot really. | 18:48 |
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| vgridnev | elmiko, any news in this topic? | 18:48 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | crobertsrh: again, I guess Trove UI is suffering from the same issues, sharing some experince might be usefull | 18:49 |
| elmiko | nothing from me, i haven't been following ceilometer aside from the email that cdent sent | 18:49 |
| crobertsrh | NikitaKonovalov: Yes. I'm also talking to Trove people and working on their reviews. | 18:49 |
| egafford | Okay, fair enough. | 18:49 |
| egafford | #topic Open Discussion | 18:49 |
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| egafford | Since we seem to be here anyway. :) | 18:50 |
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| egafford | huichun: I absolutely support a session about debugging information retrieval and presentation, for both EDP and cluster provisioning. | 18:50 |
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| egafford | Logging into your cluster to debug may not even be possible in all use cases. | 18:51 |
| huichun | yes current sahara drop edp log to the specific engine like oozie | 18:51 |
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| huichun | we have event log for cluster provisioning, right? | 18:52 |
| vgridnev | huichun, yep | 18:52 |
| NikitaKonovalov | huichun: yes we have two-level log for steps/events | 18:52 |
| egafford | I think we're likely to talk more formally about working sessions for summit soon, but I look forward to hearing your thoughts. :) We do, yes, but does that dig into, say, cloudera manager logs, or hdp logs, or the places where things are likely to break? | 18:52 |
| huichun | and for edp log, I think we need log level too, INFO or ERROR, for INFO, user can see all the execution detail, sometimes the execution content is more different than the result of successful | 18:53 |
| egafford | That's the kind of information customers almost always need to fix problems on cluster deployment. We're very good now at telling the user when it broke, but not often why. | 18:53 |
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| egafford | (Any other topics people want to discuss today? We've only got about 5 minutes.) | 18:54 |
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| huichun | egafford: currently I am thinking digging log for specific engine like oozie and spark | 18:55 |
| crobertsrh | nothing from me | 18:55 |
| vgridnev | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073606.html | 18:55 |
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| vgridnev | just to confirm | 18:55 |
| egafford | vgridnev wins the FFE request race! | 18:56 |
| egafford | (Thanks!) | 18:56 |
| huichun | egafford: specific engine has the detail log | 18:56 |
| egafford | huichun: Makes a lot of sense. We can probably make the mechanism reusable for both cluster provisioning and EDP, at least at a high level. | 18:57 |
| huichun | egafford: good idea, I will prepare more for this topic | 18:57 |
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| egafford | huichun: Sounds great to me! | 18:58 |
| tmckay | yes, we've talked about this here and there for a long time | 18:58 |
| tmckay | I think we should definitely make it a priority in the M cycle | 18:58 |
| tmckay | robustness and usability, over new features (my opinion) | 18:58 |
| egafford | tmckay: Yup. Hopefully M can be the Cycle of User Experience. | 18:58 |
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| tmckay | that would be really, really great | 18:58 |
| egafford | tmckay: Very hearty +1. | 18:58 |
| elmiko | 2 minutes left | 18:58 |
| huichun | +1 | 18:58 |
| egafford | elmiko: Ack. Any last words for the meeting? | 18:58 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:59 |
| tmckay | error reporting in general -- | 18:59 |
| egafford | That was to the assembly, not necessarily to elmiko. | 18:59 |
| elmiko | wait.. review docs! | 18:59 |
| egafford | :) | 18:59 |
| egafford | Okay, thanks all! | 18:59 |
| tmckay | for instance, I just launched a cluster but didn't have heat_stack_owner role | 18:59 |
| tmckay | no indication in horizon at all | 18:59 |
| tmckay | bye | 18:59 |
| egafford | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| huichun | bye | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 3 18:59:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-09-03-18.04.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-09-03-18.04.txt | 18:59 |
| NikitaKonovalov | bye | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-09-03-18.04.log.html | 18:59 |
| elmiko | thanks egafford | 19:00 |
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