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| rkukura | walkways and landibgs are done, patio is almost done | 15:52 |
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| rkukura | rotted woodwork getting replaced now | 15:53 |
| rkukura | sorry about that | 15:53 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: ? | 15:54 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: was typing and colloquy switched channels on me | 15:56 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: I figured that was the case :-) | 15:56 |
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| rkukura | Hi ML2’ers! | 15:59 |
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| Sukhdev_ | ola | 15:59 |
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| yamahata | hello | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | looks like we’ve got most of the recent regulars, so lets get started | 16:00 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 2 16:01:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_2.2C_2015 | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Does anyone have anything they’d like to add? | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | Only thing I have is that Liberty feature freeze is coming up soon | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | So the emphasis will be on bug fixing for the remaining time | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | Any other announcements? | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic ML2 sprint | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | We’ve settled on Yahoo hosting this the week of 10/5. | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | I’m thinking we’d plan on Tuesday and Wednesday, with the option to continue Thursday if needed | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: that is totally fine - shall we finalize on those dates and publish? | 16:06 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: yes | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | yamahata: you were planning on coming over - will that work for you as well? | 16:07 |
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| yamahata | Sukhdev: Yes, it perfectly works. :) | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev_ | cool - | 16:07 |
| rkukura | I think we should check with mestery to see if we want to treat this as an official mid-cycle meeting, or just as an informal working session to prepare for the Mitaka summit | 16:07 |
| rkukura | I plan to book my travel today | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: do you want to take an action or want to assign it to me to publish it on ML? | 16:08 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: Would be great if you could do this. | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev_ | at the time of neutron mid-cycle, I had included this in the agenda and he was happy to include it | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: please assign the action to me | 16:09 |
| rkukura | #action Sukhdev_ to publish pre-cycle meeting details/invitation | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev_ | yamahata: what is your email - I wanted to include you in an email earlier, but could not find it | 16:10 |
| rkukura | So far, the only real agenda item is the async backend synchronization. | 16:10 |
| yamahata | Sukhdev: I sent my address privately | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev_ | yamahata: got it - thanks | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I got an update on the topology service from asomya, and he can’t make the sprint, so I don’t think it makes sense to try to work on that. | 16:11 |
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| rkukura | Anything else on the mid/late/pre-cycle sprint? | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: Are they still working on physical topology part? | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: yes, I’ll cover that later in the agenda | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev_ | cool - thanks | 16:13 |
| rkukura | Of course, if anyone does want to work on the topology agenda during the sprint, that is fine | 16:14 |
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| rkukura | We could potentially work on other mitaka goals for ML2, such as security group handling, etc. | 16:14 |
| rkukura | speaking of which, … | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev_ | yamamoto had ideas on that - | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | #topic driver API for Security Groups | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: Do you want to discuss this now? | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | I see in last weeks minutes that yamamoto did not expect to have time to make progress on this before now, so we can move on and get back to this next week | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev_ | yes, that is correct | 16:17 |
| rkukura | OK, this seems like a likely design summit topic, and maybe something we can brainstorm on at the sprint a bit | 16:18 |
| rkukura | #topic module L2 agent & macvtap | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | I don’t see scheuran, but I do see sc68cal - any update? | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev_ | scheuran is on PTO | 16:19 |
| rkukura | schuaran said not to expect much progress until mid September, so we can get back to this later | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | Anything else on this topic? | 16:20 |
| rkukura | #topic physical topology service | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | I did chat with asomya about this | 16:20 |
| rkukura | He hasn’t been able to attend these meetings due to a conflict | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev_ | shivharris said the same thing - a conflict | 16:21 |
| rkukura | He said Gary Kotton is now helping out with this as well, and they are working on the API | 16:22 |
| rkukura | They want to do a neutron-nova design session on it | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: he was going to share a document on this - I have not seen anything, have you? | 16:23 |
| rkukura | I asked asomya if there was any real coupling with ML2 other than it being useful for mechanism drivers, and he doens’t think so. | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: I have not seen a document, and forgot to ask asomya if they have one to share | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev_ | yamahata: I remember you presenting this in Atlanta summit - are you involved in this as well? | 16:24 |
| rkukura | I’m not sure we need to include this on the weekly ML2 agenda, but I would like to get periodic updates, and also get access to the working docs | 16:24 |
| yamahata | So far I'm not involved with their activity unfotunately. | 16:25 |
| yamahata | they haven't opened it. | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura: I was temped to remove it from the agenda - hence, I moved it to the end :-):-) | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev_ | yamahata: For some reason, they have not opened it up at all - this makes me very skeptical about this whole thing | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: OK, maybe we can switch to an agenda item on mitaka design summit topics, where we’d get updates on this and others | 16:26 |
| rkukura | Anything else on topology service for now? | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev_ | negative | 16:27 |
| rkukura | #topic open discussion | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | Is there anything anyone would like to discuss, or should we wrap up early today? | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | Seems we are done for today :) | 16:29 |
| yamahata | Regarding to mid-cycle, is remote attendance allowed? | 16:29 |
| yamahata | Because I'd like to have my college in china to attend somehow. | 16:30 |
| rkukura | yamahata: No rule against it | 16:30 |
| yamahata | Great. | 16:30 |
| yamahata | thanks | 16:30 |
| rkukura | I’m sure I could get a WebEx session for it if needed | 16:30 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: Do you want to mention anything about remote attendance in the email you send? | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | Anything else before we conclude? | 16:32 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 16:33:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-02-16.01.html | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-02-16.01.txt | 16:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-02-16.01.log.html | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | bye | 16:33 |
| yamahata | bye, thanks | 16:33 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 2 16:59:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 16:59 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
| Kiall | Hey Folks - Who's about? | 16:59 |
| mugsie | o/ | 16:59 |
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| mlavalle | hi | 17:00 |
| elarson | mlavalle: hello! | 17:00 |
| Kiall | timsim ? | 17:01 |
| Kiall | jmcbride? | 17:01 |
| mlavalle | elarson: hey..... | 17:01 |
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| elarson | Kiall: timsim might need to head out | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | federico3 ? ekarlso? | 17:01 |
| Kiall | elarson: K :) | 17:01 |
| * elarson is trying to get the skinny on bug triage in his absence | 17:01 | |
| Kiall | lol - thanks :) | 17:02 |
| Kiall | #topic Announcements | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | Libery-3 release will be cut about this time tomorrow. Anything that doesn't land before then will need to wait for RC1 - and possibly M, if it's too big a change. | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | Any other Announcements from folks? | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | Nope, moving on so. | 17:03 |
| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | 3 actions, all backports, all either not needed or done. 2 done = https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219769/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219771/ | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | pls review+approve etc | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:04 | |
| Kiall | timsim's AFK - elarson .. figured it out yet? ;) | 17:04 |
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| elarson | sorry, my launchpad skills are up to snuff it seems | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Sure.. I'll do it so :) | 17:05 |
| Kiall | First one has actually been around a while - 1471165 | 17:05 |
| Kiall | bug 1471165 | 17:05 |
| mugsie | thats private | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Ah | 17:05 |
| federico3 | o/ | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Moving on so | 17:05 |
| Kiall | bug 1487934 | 17:05 |
| openstack | bug 1487934 in Designate "500 error returned in List Records in a Domain" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1487934 | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | Anyone managed to reproduce this one? | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | nope | 17:06 |
| Kiall | I suspect it's a real issue knowing the V1 RRSet code.. High / rc1? | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | yeah | 17:07 |
| Kiall | bug 1490843 | 17:07 |
| openstack | bug 1490843 in Designate "ERROR message after not sourced request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1490843 | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | I think we have a better error now, is this valid? | 17:07 |
| mugsie | eh, not sure | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | (It's using RHEL packages rather than latest versions) | 17:08 |
| Kiall | Anyone willing to take + triage it? | 17:08 |
| mugsie | its not valid anymore | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | and should be on the client anway | 17:08 |
| elarson | yeah, looks like a client issue to me | 17:09 |
| mugsie | designateclient➜ python-designateclient git:(master) ./bin/designate server-list 2015:09:02::18:09 | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Yea, there's a few of those in there. | 17:09 |
| mugsie | ERROR: No endpoint was found: | 17:09 |
| mugsie | its not great as a message | 17:09 |
| mugsie | but are we OK with it? | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Oh - SO it's not fixed? | 17:09 |
| mugsie | no, i dont think iot is actually | 17:09 |
| mugsie | move to client - and med | 17:09 |
| Kiall | done | 17:10 |
| Kiall | bug 1490861 | 17:10 |
| openstack | bug 1490861 in python-designateclient "Designate record create help" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1490861 | 17:10 |
| mugsie | valid, move to client, med | 17:10 |
| mugsie | or low actually | 17:10 |
| Kiall | I believe that's not a bug - OS CLI's expect "designate help command" | 17:10 |
| Kiall | rather than "designate command --help" | 17:11 |
| Kiall | (It's how Cliff, the framework works..)( | 17:11 |
| mugsie | we are ah, so they do | 17:11 |
| mugsie | s/we are// | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yeah, invalid | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Done | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | similar one again - bug 1490910 | 17:12 |
| openstack | bug 1490910 in Designate "record deletion syntax is not clear- bad help" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1490910 | 17:12 |
| mugsie | its valid ish | 17:12 |
| mugsie | but low. | 17:12 |
| mugsie | and in the clientr | 17:13 |
| Kiall | done | 17:13 |
| Kiall | bug 1491248 | 17:14 |
| openstack | bug 1491248 in Designate "Record is not deleted after terminating a VM+duplicate records " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491248 | 17:14 |
| mugsie | i am pretty sure this was a missconfig | 17:14 |
| mugsie | he had no pool_nameserver set up | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Anyone willing to triage and verify ^? | 17:14 |
| mugsie | so it was waiting for the domain to expire before PDNS would AXFR | 17:14 |
| mugsie | so in the V1 api it was still showing | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | Will I assing to you for verification? ;) | 17:15 |
| Kiall | assign* | 17:15 |
| mugsie | as we dont have a "status" col in the V1 | 17:15 |
| mugsie | sure | 17:15 |
| Kiall | done | 17:15 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: nice verb! | 17:15 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: :D | 17:15 |
| Kiall | last one - bug 1491348 | 17:15 |
| openstack | bug 1491348 in Designate "sql DB is not updated after record creation " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491348 | 17:15 |
| mugsie | same | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Assigned to you again so ;) | 17:16 |
| Kiall | That's all the new bugs - moving on so. | 17:16 |
| Kiall | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | cmon paste.o.o -_- | 17:17 |
| Kiall | http://paste.openstack.org/show/441825/ | 17:17 |
| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/441825/ | 17:17 |
| Kiall | As usual, take a few and nominate anything we need to backport. | 17:18 |
| Kiall | 2e30041 Merge "Remove unused dependency: discover" | 17:18 |
| mugsie | none IMHO | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Probably right to not change the deps, even if it's unused | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Anyone have any others? | 17:18 |
| federico3 | (what's the criterion for backporting things?) | 17:19 |
| Kiall | federico3: No features, just low-risk bug fixes | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | Other than that - it's open for us to argue yay or nay case by case ;) | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | Okay.. Moving on since we have no other nominations :) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | mlavalle: I see we have some good news? :) | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: yeah, we merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952/ | 17:21 |
| mlavalle | this is the the internal dns resolution side | 17:21 |
| Kiall | Woo :) 1/3rd of the patches landed! (with 3/4 of the code from the looks of it) | 17:21 |
| mlavalle | I am making good progress with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ | 17:22 |
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| mlavalle | this is the external side | 17:22 |
| mlavalle | right now I am being able to load the designate client | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | Yea, that's excellent! I have it checked out locally to experiment with :) | 17:22 |
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| mlavalle | and use it to create recordsets | 17:22 |
| mlavalle | I am also deleting | 17:23 |
| mlavalle | with this in place, now I am working the floating ip extension and plugin | 17:23 |
| mlavalle | to add the code to call the designate driver | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | Cool | 17:23 |
| mlavalle | I expect to do rapid rpogress here, since it is similar to what I have already done with the other patchset | 17:24 |
| Kiall | Considering Neutron ships L3 in the next day or so, is this part likely to get pushed to M? | 17:24 |
| mlavalle | yeah, i will push it to M1 | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | Aww.. Oh well :( | 17:24 |
| mlavalle | I don't have functioning code yet, so I am hesitant to request FFE | 17:25 |
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| mlavalle | but it will be done by the time of the Tokyo presentation, so we will be able to do a full demo | 17:25 |
| Kiall | Yea, FFE without code is really unlikley! | 17:25 |
| Kiall | Okay - Anything else? Any Q's for mlavalle from anyone else? | 17:26 |
| mlavalle | not know, that's all this week | 17:26 |
| Kiall | Okay - Thanks mlavalle :)( | 17:26 |
| Kiall | #topic Liberty 3 Release | 17:27 |
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| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-3 | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Tis been a quiet L3 (or, we've not been tracking the bugs and BPs properly.. which is more likely ;)) | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Anything outstanding we should try and land that's not on that page? | 17:27 |
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| Kiall | Nobody? | 17:29 |
| mugsie | i dont think so | 17:29 |
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| mugsie | need to dig through commits though | 17:29 |
| elarson | yeah, I can't think of anything | 17:29 |
| Kiall | K - There's a few patches for adding more tests from pglass and sonu pending a +A | 17:30 |
| Kiall | May as well +A them, if people have the time to review. | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | Okay, let's move on so :) | 17:30 |
| Kiall | #topic Tokyo Summit Space | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | Thierry is looking for details.. Summit space this year is tight. | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Venue is smaller and More Projects in the Teant | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Tent* | 17:31 |
| Kiall | I was thinking - 1fishbowl, 5workrooms, 1 half day contributers meet? | 17:31 |
| Kiall | (Thierry was thinking the same, but 4 workroom) | 17:32 |
| mugsie | yeah, that sounds ok | 17:32 |
| mugsie | i think there will be less people in anycase | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Considering it's Tokyo - and so few us us are going to make it out - that seems reaosnable! | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | 4 or 5 would be fine | 17:32 |
| elarson | +1 with the caveat I have no clue what a fishbowl vs. a workroom actually is ;) | 17:32 |
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| Kiall | workroom is generally like a conf room, or a small room for 10 or so people.. | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | fishbowl is a bigger room, like a small "stage" kinda setup for wider feedback etc from folks | 17:33 |
| Kiall | Okay - I'll pass that on to ttx :) | 17:34 |
| elarson | Kiall: thanks for descriptions | 17:34 |
| Kiall | Okay.. Lets move on so .. Starving and need some dinner ;) | 17:34 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | Any other topics from anyone else? | 17:34 |
| mugsie | nothing from me anyway :) | 17:35 |
| elarson | Kiall: might have found a bug in the tcp socket handling in dnsutils where the socket doesn't close | 17:35 |
| elarson | I'm looking into it now | 17:35 |
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| elarson | we found it in the agent when running more than one worker process | 17:35 |
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| Kiall | Is it a leak, or a leftover socket after shutdown? | 17:36 |
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| elarson | for example, dig would run and get an answer, but the kernel wouldn't change the status back to LISTEN | 17:36 |
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| elarson | timsim mentioned the same code is also in mdns so if anyone runs mdns with more than one process listening on the same address, you could probably try to repoduce it | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Humm, that could be related to the SO_REUSEADDR/SO_REUSEPORT on TCP+UDP socks, or SO_KEEPALIVE on TCP's | 17:37 |
| elarson | yeah, that is what I'm thinking | 17:37 |
| Kiall | (I have to admit, I have no clue why we have SO_KEEPALIVE on a TCP DNS sock) | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Okay - Well, if you figure anything out let us know :) | 17:38 |
| elarson | will do! | 17:38 |
| Kiall | Also - As near as I can tell, it's not causing any harm - right? | 17:38 |
| elarson | we have to limit the agent to using one process atm | 17:38 |
| elarson | that is where it came up | 17:39 |
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| Kiall | Humm, okay.. File a bug with any detail you have and we can try repduce :) | 17:39 |
| elarson | yeah, I'm researching it now | 17:39 |
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| Kiall | Okay, anything else before we call it a day? | 17:40 |
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| Kiall | I'm talking silence as a no! | 17:42 |
| elarson | +1 | 17:42 |
| Kiall | OH.. 1 last thing | 17:42 |
| Kiall | Thanks RackSpace for hosting the mid-cycle - excellent hosts as alweays :) | 17:42 |
| Kiall | always* | 17:42 |
| mugsie | we did this last week, whil;e you were asleep :) | 17:43 |
| * mugsie ducks | 17:43 | |
| elarson | as the official rackspace rep here, I'll take full credit :P | 17:43 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | Okay - Cya! :) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 17:43:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-02-16.59.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-02-16.59.txt | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-02-16.59.log.html | 17:43 |
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| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 2 18:00:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| amrith | all hail cp16net | 18:00 |
| mvandijk | o/ | 18:00 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:00 |
| cp16net | hey yall | 18:00 |
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| peterstac | \o | 18:00 |
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| schang | o/ | 18:00 |
| cp16net | i hope everyone had a good trip back home from the midcycle | 18:00 |
| amrith | cp16net, the agenda has a link to midcycle | 18:00 |
| amrith | not bp priorities ;) | 18:01 |
| ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:01 |
| dloi | o/ | 18:01 |
| atomic77 | 0/ | 18:01 |
| peterstac | yep, who needs more than two hours of sleep anyways! ;) | 18:01 |
| cp16net | lolz | 18:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:01 |
| mat-lowery | o/ | 18:01 |
| pmalik | *\0/* | 18:02 |
| amrith | thx cp16net | 18:02 |
| amrith | got it | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| cp16net | #topic pulse update | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pulse update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:02 | |
| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | looks like there are a more reviews built up | 18:03 |
| shayneburgess | it looks like nothing is making it through the gate | 18:03 |
| cp16net | i think thats partly due to the fate | 18:03 |
| cp16net | heh the gate is the fate | 18:03 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:03 |
| cp16net | shayneburgess: yea speaking of that... | 18:04 |
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| amrith | what, the gate is hosed again? | 18:04 |
| cp16net | so we had a patch that resolevd the image building | 18:04 |
| peterstac | cp16net, it still hasn't started to run (last time I checked) | 18:04 |
| pmackinn | 12 hours and counting | 18:05 |
| cp16net | but... then the image name changed again | 18:05 |
| cp16net | hence the gate being broken again | 18:05 |
| vkmc | did the second patch got merged? | 18:05 |
| shayneburgess | is it this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219548/ | 18:05 |
| peterstac | nope, as pmackinn said 12.5 hours and still not running | 18:05 |
| peterstac | shayneburgess, yep, that's it | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219548/ | 18:05 |
| vkmc | yup | 18:05 |
| cp16net | this is the patch that will fix our woes | 18:05 |
| amrith | same here | 18:06 |
| amrith | I'm hosed on that; i had a hack fr that. | 18:06 |
| cp16net | so if you run in to this issue locally testing or building an image just remove that line and it will work now | 18:06 |
| peterstac | I'm sensing there will be an inordinate amount of FFE's this cycle ... | 18:06 |
| peterstac | ;) | 18:06 |
| amrith | peterstac, I think these issues only impact us. not rest of openstack | 18:07 |
| cp16net | peterstac: lets try and get as much done as possible | 18:07 |
| shayneburgess | when is the FF date now? | 18:07 |
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| amrith | tomorrow morning | 18:07 |
| vkmc | early thursday | 18:07 |
| amrith | thursday | 18:07 |
| amrith | early AM eastern time. | 18:07 |
| cp16net | yeah early thurs | 18:07 |
| cp16net | so what that means with a gate thats taking 12+ hours | 18:08 |
| peterstac | That's when they cut the image, right? | 18:08 |
| shayneburgess | yeah it's already too late | 18:08 |
| peterstac | There's no way all our stuff can make it in | 18:08 |
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| amrith | I suggest we WF+1 all the things which are ready to go and let them wind their way through the queue | 18:09 |
| amrith | they won't have merged in time | 18:09 |
| vkmc | how much time is the FFE? | 18:09 |
| amrith | let's not change our actions based on the deadline, we have to still review and get the code right, merged, etc., | 18:09 |
| shayneburgess | +1 | 18:09 |
| cp16net | we may have to have a convo about this to ttx but lets try and narrow it down if we can | 18:09 |
| vkmc | we need enough time to get the ready patches to go through the gate | 18:09 |
| amrith | vkmc, the time to get through the gate is out of our control. | 18:10 |
| amrith | reviewing, merging, getting to code right; those are in our control. | 18:10 |
| amrith | let's try and do the things that we can control. | 18:10 |
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| pmackinn-afk | merged? how so? | 18:10 |
| amrith | we can't control the rest of it ... | 18:10 |
| cp16net | so this is bleeding into the next topic so i'll switch to it | 18:10 |
| amrith | pmackinn-afk, sorry; merging as in getting conflicts merged. | 18:10 |
| amrith | not merged upstream. | 18:10 |
| pmackinn-afk | amrith, ack updating patch sets | 18:11 |
| cp16net | #topic liberty-3 blueprint priorities | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveLibertyPriorities | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | we have done a good job getting eyes on most of the reviews | 18:12 |
| amrith | cp16net, I'm running into some issues while testing. I've been working through some of them and resulted in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219544/ | 18:13 |
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| amrith | that change isn't needed for liberty. | 18:13 |
| amrith | but some issues running tests locally | 18:13 |
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| cp16net | ah yeah that will be helpful cleaning up the output | 18:14 |
| cp16net | looks like the mariadb support needs another set of eyes | 18:14 |
| amrith | will get to it next. | 18:15 |
| vkmc | and the datastore registration api as well | 18:15 |
| vkmc | I'm reviewing that one now :) | 18:15 |
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| amrith | don't know if datastore registration api was on the list. is it? | 18:15 |
| cp16net | alright nice | 18:15 |
| amrith | vkmc, yes it is. | 18:16 |
| vkmc | amrith, yeah, just before horizon patches | 18:16 |
| peterstac | amrith, yep at the bottom | 18:16 |
| cp16net | can someone step up and on the cluster root enable? | 18:16 |
| saurabhs | these two patches also need some help from reviewers | 18:16 |
| saurabhs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/vertica-cluster-user-features,n,z | 18:16 |
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| peterstac | I'll take a look at MariaDB | 18:16 |
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| amrith | saurabhs, are these changes on the list? | 18:17 |
| cp16net | i'm looking at the cluster scaling for mongo | 18:17 |
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| amrith | some of them are not. | 18:17 |
| saurabhs | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218548/ (python-troveclient)(ready for review) | 18:17 |
| saurabhs | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196913/ (ready for review) | 18:17 |
| amrith | like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219544/ | 18:18 |
| amrith | which I'm not looking at for now. | 18:18 |
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| cp16net | amrith: its the cluster root enabled | 18:18 |
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| amrith | wrong paste | 18:19 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213354/ | 18:19 |
| saurabhs | amrith the blueprint url was wronng. the review links are correct though for root-enable on cluster | 18:19 |
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| saurabhs | amrith yeh the reason I think its not in in the page is the spec has not merged for it | 18:20 |
| amrith | saurabhs, what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207578/2? | 18:20 |
| amrith | it is listed as related to the ones you want to merge | 18:20 |
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| cp16net | i see that as well | 18:21 |
| amrith | hence my confusion. | 18:21 |
| saurabhs | amrith the new gerrit UI is bit misleading it doesn't show the dependancies very clearly. let me grab the links for you | 18:22 |
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| saurabhs | So these two are the parent patches for root-enable on cluster | 18:22 |
| saurabhs | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218548/ (python-troveclient)(ready for review) | 18:22 |
| saurabhs | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196913/ (ready for review) | 18:22 |
| amrith | OK, thanks | 18:22 |
| saurabhs | we need these to get merged for liberty-3 | 18:22 |
| amrith | will review those two. | 18:23 |
| shayneburgess | thanks Amrith | 18:23 |
| cp16net | ok i think we cleared up the confusion | 18:23 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:23 |
| saurabhs | amrith thanks | 18:24 |
| amrith | isn't root enable the thing that brought us to an interesting place in the CI ;) | 18:24 |
| amrith | did that change (that I reverted) get added back? | 18:24 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217943/ | 18:25 |
| cp16net | ok so i'm putting names under the reviews on that page so that we can split up the load | 18:25 |
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| saurabhs | amrith yup it was the same patch. we fixed it through now its backwards compatible | 18:25 |
| amrith | I propose that we should revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217881/ as the first changein the next release. | 18:26 |
| saurabhs | the API and cli both were fixed so that for the case when password is not passed in no body is sent on the POST call | 18:26 |
| shayneburgess | and we fixed the python-troveclient gate so the patch will get tested this time | 18:26 |
| shayneburgess | right? | 18:26 |
| shayneburgess | +1 Amrith | 18:26 |
| cp16net | amrith: yeah that wasnt the issue we had so i'd agree that its worth reverting after | 18:27 |
| amrith | shayneburgess, when you say "we fixed", I assume you are asking saurabhs ? | 18:27 |
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| saurabhs | shayneburgess I think so, :) . I am sure its fixed because now Depends-On in the commit message actually works | 18:27 |
| cp16net | nice work saurabhs | 18:27 |
| cp16net | so taking another look over the list | 18:28 |
| shayneburgess | Amrith - if I remember, the gate wasn't actually testing patches (was pinned to a particular build) so that's how the break got through the first time? Or did I misunderstand? | 18:28 |
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| amrith | I see no depends-on in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217881/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218548/ | 18:28 |
| amrith | am I missing something? | 18:28 |
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| amrith | shayneburgess, I don't think so. | 18:28 |
| cp16net | the tests were using the version of the client in pypu | 18:29 |
| saurabhs | amrith so when the CLI patch for root-enable merged the dvsm gate job was not puliing the trove CLI changes from the patch instead it was installing the CLI from the pypi server and thats why the issue was not caught in the first place | 18:29 |
| cp16net | yeah that was it | 18:30 |
| shayneburgess | yeah that's what I was refering to | 18:30 |
| saurabhs | amrith cp16net Nikhil fixed that issue with this patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216915 but this one landed after the CLI was merged | 18:31 |
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| cp16net | ahh that makes sense | 18:31 |
| cp16net | ok we should not have that issue again | 18:32 |
| shayneburgess | cp16net yeah that was my point | 18:32 |
| saurabhs | and in fact we figured out the issue with dvsm gate only because CLI patch merged and that tests on the API patch were still failing the code form CLI was not available in the API tests because the gate alwasy took cli from pypi | 18:32 |
| cp16net | ok we have a few patches for redis | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | looks like the redis cluster is still being worked on | 18:34 |
| saurabhs | cp16net this one also need some core votes | 18:34 |
| saurabhs | Add databag ('extended-properties') to cluster-create | 18:34 |
| saurabhs | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206931/ | 18:34 |
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| cp16net | saurabhs: working our way down | 18:35 |
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| mvandijk | saurabhs this is the base of a couple of features being added that was not bp'd | 18:35 |
| mvandijk | i have beef with these client changes going through without being vetted by the community | 18:36 |
| cp16net | who can look over the redis replication? | 18:36 |
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| amrith | mvandijk, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206931/ has a +1 from you ... | 18:37 |
| mvandijk | i know, im taking it off after having thought more on it | 18:38 |
| saurabhs | mvandijk Nikhil mentioned that this is already discussed. | 18:38 |
| pmackinn | https://review.openstack.org/219548 moves into 4th place at the turn... | 18:38 |
| mvandijk | saurabhs, this was discussed and we agreed it was a problem that needed to be planned out better | 18:38 |
| mvandijk | once these go in we cannot revert or change the api | 18:39 |
| mvandijk | so we need to get the experience right the first time | 18:39 |
| mvandijk | cluster create is already loooking bad | 18:39 |
| mvandijk | i think i we have more pressing issues this week | 18:40 |
| cp16net | mvandijk: i think there is some valid concerns although i'm not sure what SlickNik has said before since he was authoring this patch | 18:40 |
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| saurabhs | mvandijk just so that I understand this, given a choice you would do it differently, can you post comments on that patch what/why/how will you do it differently? and what are the issues with current approach? | 18:41 |
| amrith | saurabhs, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218548/3 | 18:41 |
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| cp16net | alright so we have a few more patches here | 18:43 |
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| cp16net | there are a couple cassandra patches there | 18:43 |
| amrith | would someone more python literate (than me) please review my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218548/3 | 18:44 |
| cp16net | they dont look like anyone has looked at them | 18:44 |
| cp16net | they may be candidates to be pushed out if we dont get to them | 18:44 |
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| cp16net | alright so it looks like we have a plan on the given patches | 18:45 |
| peterstac | amrith, you're right, mock.patch decorators are applied in reverse order in the arguments list | 18:46 |
| cp16net | lets work through them and if they are good lets get them in the gate | 18:46 |
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| cp16net | so moving to open discussion | 18:47 |
| cp16net | #topic open discussion | 18:47 |
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| cp16net | anyone have anything else? | 18:47 |
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| * amrith runs back to look at second review for saurabhs ;) | 18:48 | |
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| cp16net | 1. | 18:48 |
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| cp16net | ...2... | 18:48 |
| saurabhs | amrith will ping you as soon as I have the review up again | 18:48 |
| cp16net | alright i guess thats all folks | 18:48 |
| amrith | thanks cp16net | 18:48 |
| cp16net | #stopmeeting | 18:49 |
| saurabhs | thanks cp16net | 18:49 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:49 |
| shayneburgess | thanks | 18:49 |
| cp16net | #endmeeting | 18:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 18:49:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:49 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-02-18.00.html | 18:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-02-18.00.txt | 18:49 |
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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 2 19:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 19:00 |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 19:00 |
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| sgordon | howdy folks, anyone around for telco wg meeting? | 19:00 |
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| cloudon | hi | 19:01 |
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| sgordon | #topic Product WG updates | 19:02 |
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| sgordon | ok so i delivered an update on some product wg stuff last week but some more things that may be relevant to this group | 19:03 |
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| sgordon | #info product wg - Specs Page and Cross Project Meeting Info | 19:03 |
| sgordon | #link | 19:03 |
| sgordon | #undo | 19:03 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0xa7a2410> | 19:03 |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/product-wg/2015-September/000694.html | 19:03 |
| sgordon | #info Cross project relations | 19:03 |
| sgordon | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Product_Working_Group | 19:04 |
| sgordon | and most importantly... | 19:04 |
| sgordon | #info User stories | 19:04 |
| sgordon | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/user-stories | 19:04 |
| sgordon | there are small groups forming around those initial user stories | 19:04 |
| sgordon | the capacity management one includes some scope coverage of a reservation handling | 19:05 |
| sgordon | which is a gap i know has been articulated in ETSI NFV | 19:05 |
| sgordon | mainly raised as an FYI for now | 19:05 |
| sgordon | #topic reviews | 19:05 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/telcowg-usecases,n,z | 19:05 |
| sgordon | cloudon, i suspect it may be just you and me today because of the latter timeslot | 19:05 |
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| sgordon | any issues on the SBC side? | 19:06 |
| cloudon | need a couple of bits of help... | 19:06 |
| sgordon | looks like it might have hit a minor syntax error | 19:06 |
| sgordon | sure, what's the issue :) | 19:06 |
| cloudon | Yuri suggested adding ASCII art, which I tried but think have exceeded my RST knowledge... | 19:06 |
| cloudon | any expertise? | 19:07 |
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| cloudon | on the IMS one it's a case of the magic git incantantions not working | 19:07 |
| sgordon | i think on the ascii art you may need another newline and/or indentation after :: | 19:08 |
| cloudon | ah, OK, will give that a try | 19:09 |
| sgordon | http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#literal-blocks | 19:09 |
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| sgordon | on the IMS one looks like it got collapsed into the SBC submission | 19:09 |
| sgordon | was that intentional? | 19:09 |
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| cloudon | God, no | 19:09 |
| Rockyg | question: are you guys following the possible resurrection of Blazar for reservations and is it applicable? | 19:09 |
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| sgordon | Rockyg, that is part of what i refer to talking about reservations | 19:10 |
| sgordon | Rockyg, but the actual resurrection or not of Blazar is not actually immediately relevant | 19:10 |
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| sgordon | Rockyg, other than to know hey there are people are looking at this again so we can dust off our thoughts around that | 19:10 |
| Rockyg | gotcha. Thanks! | 19:11 |
| sgordon | whether reservations are built into the projects and/or handled by blazaar as an API is more of an implementation detail we would leave up to the project teams | 19:11 |
| sgordon | (incl. the Blazar one) | 19:11 |
| sgordon | cloudon, hmmm | 19:12 |
| sgordon | well then | 19:12 |
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| sgordon | let me check that submission out and see what the git log looks like | 19:12 |
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| sgordon | but my guess is you accidentally git added both in the same git commit --amend | 19:12 |
| cloudon | Ah, that may be an issue with my local repository & and over-zealous copy | 19:12 |
| sgordon | you shouuulld be able to remove it again doing the reverse | 19:12 |
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| cloudon | Problem with the IMS one was a failed cherry pick trying to follow mkoderer's instructions | 19:13 |
| sgordon | ah | 19:14 |
| cloudon | May be quickest to abandon and do a brand new submission - would that cause any problems? | 19:14 |
| sgordon | let me have a quick crack | 19:14 |
| sgordon | and see if i can sort it out in git/gerrit on my side | 19:14 |
| sgordon | and then you can fetch it again | 19:14 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, im going to #endmeeting | 19:21 |
| sgordon | but am working on it | 19:21 |
| sgordon | k? | 19:21 |
| cloudon | ok, no problem | 19:21 |
| cloudon | let me know if easier to just abandon/resubmit | 19:21 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 19:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 19:22:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-02-19.00.html | 19:22 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting octavia | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| bana_k | o/ | 20:00 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 20:00 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 20:00 |
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| abdelwas | hi | 20:00 |
| blallau | hi all | 20:00 |
| xgerman | hi | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | johnsom you are up for GSLB | 20:00 |
| ptoohill | ./ | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy! | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Mostly looking at stub code checked into gerrit | 20:01 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:01 |
| xgerman | exciting stuff | 20:01 |
| Aish | o/ | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | polaris has changed the repo around and split off the health manager code a bit better. | 20:01 |
| evgenyf | Hi | 20:01 |
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| bharathm | o/ | 20:01 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:01 |
| blogan | hello! | 20:01 |
| johnsom | That is all I have | 20:01 |
| xgerman | any other announcements? | 20:02 |
| xgerman | #topic Liberty deadline stuff | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-octavia | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | So, L7 isn't going to make it in. But it'll probably land in a few weeks. | 20:03 |
| xgerman | :-( | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | (Assuming people aren't completely consumed by bugfixes at that time.) | 20:04 |
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| dougwig | sbalukoff: what's not in gerrit yet? | 20:04 |
| * blogan is consumed by many things | 20:04 | |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Octavia stuff is the biggest thing. Haven't had time to do it yet. | 20:04 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: ok. | 20:04 |
| dougwig | where are we with octavia? | 20:04 |
| blogan | octavia L7 is not even started | 20:05 |
| evgenyf | Tempest is also missing, right? | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | And the updates to the reference driver... well, I think Mark closed my patch due to lack of activity. But even after I re-open it, it'll need to be reworked given the pool sharing stuff. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | evgenyf: Correct. | 20:05 |
| blogan | evgenyf: tempest tests would be needed as well | 20:05 |
| xgerman | well, when is the hard drop date for L7? | 20:05 |
| johnsom | minwang2 and I are still working on the gate. The slowness of booting a vm inside of a vm without vt-x emulation is causing timeout pain | 20:05 |
| TrevorV | vm-inception | 20:06 |
| madhu_ak | evgenyf: yes, the tempest is missing, thought I should wait as the L7 has partial functionality | 20:06 |
| dougwig | we past the hard drop date. we can argue for an FFE if it's really close, but i'm not hearing the sounds of really close. | 20:06 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: Er... last Monday? ;) Seriously, though... if you want us to keep pushing on it, I would *love* to get it in. | 20:06 |
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| blogan | dougwig: i dont think it is realistic | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: +1 | 20:06 |
| xgerman | just looked at #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 20:07 |
| evgenyf | blogan: right, and drivers should be fixed with a pool sharing | 20:07 |
| xgerman | we are running out of time | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | yep. | 20:07 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: if you could get it merged by the 11th, i think we could push for an exception. do you think that's possible? it sounds like not, given octavia stuff. | 20:07 |
| blogan | evgenyf: correct, which sucks but its a necessary evil | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: I can try. I'll be spending every waking hour working on it... but given what I've learned doing the pool sharing stuff, and the state of evgeny's code (which is good), I think we might be able to do it. | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Octavia, when it comes to doing haproxy configs, isn't all that different from the reference implementation. | 20:08 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: even with octavia not having the pool sharing? | 20:08 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: ok, i'll keep the option open, then. | 20:08 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: yes but api cahnges will need to be made for that as well | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | And the L7 stuff doesn't really affect any of the amphora health or management stuff. | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: That is correct. | 20:09 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: unless we just duplicate the pools in octavia | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Let's not do that. | 20:09 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: and sahring pools between listeners is going to require duplication bc its all different configs | 20:09 |
| xgerman | #decision Keep working on L7 until 9/11 | 20:09 |
| blogan | for haproxy | 20:09 |
| xgerman | blogan +1 | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: It's probably not as bad as you think. | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | :) | 20:09 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: the sky is falling!!! | 20:09 |
| TrevorV | too soon | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | "pools" are database constructs only until they're built into a config. | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | In any case though... | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | If we're going to succeed in this, we'll need y'all to review like crazy. | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Starting with this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218560/ | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | And then this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148232/ | 20:10 |
| xgerman | ok, will do | 20:11 |
| xgerman | back to Octavia | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:11 |
| blogan | thats one of the problems, so many things to review, i feel like there's not enough time to fully test everything out and we're gonig to give a bad first impression of octavia | 20:11 |
| dougwig | that is a pretty huge risk/downside to rushing here. | 20:11 |
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| sbalukoff | That is true. | 20:11 |
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| dougwig | it's not like we have an awesome lbaasv1 reputation. | 20:12 |
| xgerman | mmh, we have the automated test suite so it shouldn’t be too bad | 20:12 |
| blogan | lol | 20:12 |
| crc32 | don't forget to rubber stamp this one. https://review.openstack.org/201882 | 20:12 |
| blogan | xgerman: but we dont have test suites for failover, heartbeats, etc | 20:12 |
| TrevorV | dougwig, so you're saying the only direction we can go is up, right? | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | If y'all think we should take the safer route that's fine by me. I'll do a couple more things on the L7 stuff in Neutron LBaaS to get that to a state I'm comfortable merging, the concentrate solely on Octavia reviews and stuff in the next weeks. | 20:12 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: i'm not saying that i'm just saying there's a ton of code to review for failover, heartbeat sending receiving, active passive, event stream | 20:13 |
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| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:13 |
| xgerman | well, event stream I think we can skip for L | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | So, I've always seen L7 as being less important than Octavia-as-reference. | 20:13 |
| TrevorV | What would be considered the safer route? Meaning not pushing for octavia to be the ref impl? | 20:13 |
| johnsom | I think event stream is off the table for Liberty | 20:13 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:13 |
| crc32 | I just realized the EventStreamer needs to be in both Octavia and Nuetron lbaas. Is it too late to get a stub commit in nuetron-lbaas to make it into the liberty release? | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | So if Octavia-as-reference is in danger of not landing, then we should put all our efforts into fixing that problem. | 20:13 |
| blogan | xgerman: maybe, but i wouldnt be surprised if active passive was too bc that is going to be a bear to reveiw and test out | 20:14 |
| xgerman | yeah, it’s on the at risk list | 20:14 |
| dougwig | do any of you operators have plans to put octavia into your clouds anytime soon? | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Safer route is to shelve L7 until Octavia-as-reference has landed. | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: I know we do. | 20:14 |
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| blogan | dougwig: yes i think hp and us both do, for us an experimental high risk product customers can try out though | 20:14 |
| xgerman | next year | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | But, we're also less beholden to what is in the official release | 20:15 |
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| xgerman | same here — but we would need to back port... | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | So, these deadlines don't matter all that much to me, except in determining priority of what's going to be worked on. | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: And we're totally willing to back port if it means we get a loadbalancer that doesn't suck. | 20:15 |
| dougwig | so, did i hear us just push L7 to M? | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | Sad, but I am ok with L7 pushed to M | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Possibly. The question I have is: Is Octavia-as-reference in danger of not landing in Liberty? | 20:16 |
| evgenyf | That's a reasonable choice | 20:16 |
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| xgerman | well, we certainly have to cut some corners (e.g. event stream) | 20:16 |
| xgerman | and potentially active-passive | 20:17 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: it's currently targeted to rc1, so it's currently in. | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, we won't use Octavia in production without active-passive. | 20:17 |
| xgerman | but I think we are close | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Rad! | 20:17 |
| xgerman | yeah, active-passive is huge for us as well | 20:17 |
| xgerman | and we will certainly back port that | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Very close on VRRP. I have been reviewing, over half done, and it looks pretty good | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Cool beans. | 20:18 |
| johnsom | So, health manager has +A, what is the timeline for folks to get UDP sender reviewed? | 20:18 |
| xgerman | but again we probably need an extension for that since we need to close on Octavia first | 20:18 |
| xgerman | (extension for active-passive) | 20:18 |
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| xgerman | johnsom today | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Can we get some links thrown out on the stuff that's highest priority to review? I can jump in and help with that. | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201882/ | 20:19 |
| blogan | johnsom: as soon as failover works for rest that should get in, and i think the health manager can get in too, the sender will be next on my list to fully test out and review | 20:19 |
| TrevorV | I think health manager is depending upon the failover review right? | 20:19 |
| dougwig | do we have an etherpad with a priority list of reviews? | 20:19 |
| blogan | TrevorV: yes | 20:19 |
| xgerman | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-octavia | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:19 |
| xgerman | I think all those reviews need to be done | 20:20 |
| johnsom | We can still review and +A UDP without failover. Technically failover is only called by health manager which is already +A | 20:20 |
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| sbalukoff | Ok, cool. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | so basically Failover, etc + TLS | 20:20 |
| xgerman | look outstanding | 20:20 |
| xgerman | and we have some bug fixes to review... | 20:21 |
| blogan | the bugs are what concerns me about the first impression | 20:21 |
| blogan | and i know we have a low bar to hurdle bc of v1 | 20:21 |
| blogan | but still | 20:21 |
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| xgerman | we can work on bug fixes until 9/21 + | 20:21 |
| johnsom | We still have time for bug fixes though right? | 20:21 |
| blogan | okay | 20:21 |
| xgerman | yeah, it’s a pain to get them into the RCs but | 20:22 |
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| xgerman | dougwig? any advice | 20:22 |
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| blogan | isn't octavia an independent release? or are we on the same release cycle now bc we're the ref impl? | 20:22 |
| xgerman | yep, same release cyscle | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | So, we should concentrate on bug squashing. | 20:22 |
| dougwig | i'm really less worried about functionality bugs than we fall over performance-wise. | 20:22 |
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| dougwig | blogan: as-ref would be the same cycle | 20:23 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:23 |
| xgerman | and we can get bug fixes in until very shortly before release | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Didn't RAX do some performance testing? | 20:24 |
| blogan | yeah and the performance was relatively fine | 20:24 |
| blogan | i dont know the exact numbers though | 20:24 |
| crc32 | You mean heartbeat performance? | 20:24 |
| blogan | no load balancing performance | 20:24 |
| xgerman | load balancing performance | 20:24 |
| crc32 | yea we need to address that. | 20:24 |
| ptoohill | with haproxy and containers | 20:24 |
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| crc32 | Were testing on containers though. | 20:24 |
| crc32 | not vms | 20:25 |
| ptoohill | ^ | 20:25 |
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| xgerman | vms are inherently worse but we did some tests at the beginning | 20:25 |
| xgerman | and Octavia is not really making the vms lower | 20:25 |
| xgerman | slower | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Did anyone keep the code around for these tests (Should we add said code to the project as well?) | 20:25 |
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| xgerman | well, harpy in a vm and apachebench | 20:26 |
| xgerman | haproxy | 20:26 |
| blogan | that damn harpy | 20:26 |
| ptoohill | Eh, this was internal stuff that would be a pain to break apart. It utilized ansible and other things. But yea, theres other tools that we can write tests in for perf | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | In my experience, when it comes to running haproxy on any host, there are certain kernel parameters you need tuned right to get the best performance. Since the existing reference implementation doesn't do any of this, I would anticipate Octavia to be on-par with it out of the box, performance wise. | 20:26 |
| xgerman | actually we tune them in the image | 20:27 |
| johnsom | We can come up with a doc on benchmarking, if we need to go there | 20:27 |
| blogan | new tests shoudl be done by hitting the neutron-lbaas API and all that just to get good, real numbers | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Good! | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:27 |
| blogan | but priorities :) | 20:27 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Your kernel settings are in the amphora already | 20:27 |
| blogan | unless someone has cycles | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | I think we might want to start thinking about writing that getting started guide. Nobody is going to complain about octavia's performance if they can't get the damned thing to work in the first place. :) | 20:27 |
| blogan | we didnt have the kernel tunings when we did our container tests and it was still decent | 20:28 |
| xgerman | they will all come to our lab and learn | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Along with the rainbows and unicorns | 20:28 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: but if they can't get it to work they still might ahve the thinking that if it did work it would be perform really well! | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Get the car running first, then make it go fast. :) | 20:28 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff, we have an octavia lab during the Tokyo summit | 20:28 |
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| xgerman | so wahtever docs we hand out we can put online | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I know. I'm just saying that not everyone who is going to try Octavia out is going to be there. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | So what is the need here? | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | I'm happy to take point on writing that getting started guide in a week or two, eh. | 20:29 |
| crc32 | :) | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Does dougwig just need numbers for competitive marketing(JK doug)? do we have a goal? | 20:29 |
| xgerman | well, we need that anyway for the lab + we will get inout from the people stuggling | 20:29 |
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| xgerman | so I think getting started should be after Tokyo | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: First draft should be done prior to the lab, eh. | 20:30 |
| crc32 | I agree sbalukoff should be on point for the doc. | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:30 |
| dougwig | johnsom: better than the current ref. | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | crc32: Not sure if compliment | 20:30 |
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| crc32 | :) | 20:31 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: being good at something most of us arent is a compliment | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Ok. If we feel we need "better than current ref." verification for l3 I can take that. | 20:31 |
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| xgerman | that’s just pointless. We say we scale better — never said we beat out ref when you just put one lb on it | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yay! | 20:32 |
| blogan | one thing that is not better than current ref impl is density | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: True. Think we need to start looking into multiple LBs per amphora at this time, then? | 20:32 |
| blogan | not at this time | 20:32 |
| johnsom | blogan Now you just bring up that process per listener again.... grin | 20:32 |
| xgerman | current ref is bare metal and we are subject to nova scheduling vagarities | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | That's true. | 20:33 |
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| xgerman | density is a problem of your nova overcommit | 20:33 |
| blogan | johnsom: not just that, just having a 1GB VM per load balancer will mean less density than just spinning up a process | 20:33 |
| crc32 | vms on bare mettle? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | True | 20:33 |
| blogan | yeah i think its something that is going to be fine | 20:33 |
| blogan | i mean acceptable | 20:33 |
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| blogan | but people running on devstack will be disappointed, unless they're running on huge VMs | 20:34 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:34 |
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| sbalukoff | Right. But people running production loads on devstack are doing it wrong in so many ways... | 20:34 |
| xgerman | and people having one LB might be as well since the virtualization takes its toll | 20:34 |
| dougwig | if we replace the ref with something that scales *worse*, i don't think it'll be a good day. and if we only define scalability as for operators with huge nova clouds, we might be setting ourselves up. | 20:34 |
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| blogan | maybe we need a namespace compute driver | 20:35 |
| blogan | seriously | 20:35 |
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| johnsom | We do have the problem that if people run devstack in a VM without vt-x emulation it is a painful experience | 20:35 |
| xgerman | well, we are making assumptions what our customers want | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | Well, the problem is that Octavia's scaling performance only can significantly beat the on-bare-metal ref impl when active-active lands (ie. Octavia 2.0) | 20:36 |
| blogan | xgerman: devstack isn't run by customers (for the most part) it'll be a pain for developers or people testing it out | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Having said this, I have multiple groups in IBM that are champing at the bit to try to deliver active-active for Octavia. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | I'm going to try to get them to attend these meetings. | 20:36 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:36 |
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| TrevorV | champing at the bit... ha ha that made me chuckle | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | My guess is they'll want to start working on that immediately. Which means the roadmap we came up with... over a year ago, will probably need some revision. But we can cross that bridge when they start showing up to these meetings, eh. :) | 20:37 |
| xgerman | well, so if we roll out Octavia with the you need VT-X I think that’s ok. There are other services which run in VMs so we are not unique with that need | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:38 |
| dougwig | good point. how does trove handle the devstack/smaller cloud case? | 20:38 |
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| johnsom | They have the same problem we do as far as I know | 20:39 |
| blogan | does hp have the trove PTL? | 20:39 |
| xgerman | he is on vacation | 20:39 |
| xgerman | butbyes | 20:39 |
| xgerman | and we have the cue PTL who has a similar problem | 20:39 |
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| blogan | well i really do think we can have a namespace compute driver in octavia | 20:40 |
| blogan | but obviously not for L | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Again, if you aren't running the amps inside nova inside a VM you are fine. It's just the vm inside vm thing that qemu drops to tcg and no performance | 20:40 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think we can document that and should be fine | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:41 |
| blogan | dougwig: does that suit your concerns? | 20:41 |
| dougwig | right, i'm not worried about production. i'm a bit worried about first impressions. | 20:41 |
| blogan | yeah | 20:41 |
| xgerman | so we should check for VT-X and not install... | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: So am I, but I'm more concerned that our 'getting started' documentation sucks, so I'll work on fixing that. In a week or two. | 20:41 |
| blogan | wouldn't that prevent devstack? | 20:41 |
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| xgerman | well, we can have a —force parameter for our tests | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:42 |
| dougwig | i don't think this is germane to the L deliverable, but I wonder if we can do a mini-amp with cirros+haproxy that can run with 128 or 256MB. | 20:43 |
| johnsom | devstack on a vt-x enabled system (vmware for exmaple) works fine | 20:43 |
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| sbalukoff | Or we could just write a FAQ answering the question, "Why does my Octavia load balancing performance suck?" | 20:43 |
| xgerman | yeah, johnsom has been looking into smaller amps but no luck so far | 20:43 |
| johnsom | Right now the current amp sits at about 700MB on ubuntu | 20:43 |
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| sbalukoff | Holy moly! | 20:43 |
| dougwig | right, cirros is tiny in comparison. | 20:43 |
| blogan | johnsom: thats ubuntu overhead though now? | 20:43 |
| blogan | no? | 20:43 |
| johnsom | It is ubuntu overhead | 20:44 |
| xgerman | yep, and cirrus doesn't have packaging | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Right, we used triple-o which has limited base image support. | 20:44 |
| dougwig | i'm not suggesting it bet he main amp. but cirros + static binary would make a nice devstack experience. | 20:44 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:44 |
| xgerman | yeah, would love that as well | 20:44 |
| johnsom | I think we need to switch to something else overall, but is it worth it vs. containers? | 20:45 |
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| xgerman | containers should work, too | 20:45 |
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| xgerman | so we agree we need to fix that | 20:45 |
| xgerman | now | 20:45 |
| xgerman | 1) Should that stop the release? | 20:46 |
| johnsom | It's definitely a wish list it. I looked at what triple-o has and was disappointed. | 20:46 |
| xgerman | 2) Can it be done in M? | 20:46 |
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| johnsom | I think we should just build a custom image at some point | 20:46 |
| blogan | i think its q uestion of whether it should stop octavia becoming ref impl | 20:46 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:46 |
| xgerman | and if so how long do we have to create that image? | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | I don't think this should stop Octavia from becoming the reference implementation. | 20:47 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:47 |
| dougwig | no, don't stop L. people devstack master. | 20:47 |
| dougwig | IMO. | 20:47 |
| xgerman | ok, cool. So we do L and then work on that image. Deal? | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 20:47 |
| johnsom | xgerman +1 | 20:47 |
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| blogan | if i get the time i may attempt to do a namespace compute driver | 20:48 |
| blogan | bc i like punishment | 20:48 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:48 |
| crc32 | I'll help with that blogan. | 20:48 |
| xgerman | I think we have 12 minutes for two more topics | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | I think we have reviews to focus on for L | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Let's move on then. | 20:48 |
| xgerman | #topic Discuss Flavor-Framework and Service providers | 20:48 |
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| xgerman | dougwig you have any inout on how you see those two co-exist? | 20:49 |
| xgerman | since we are pushing hard to have flavor in for LBaaS | 20:49 |
| dougwig | i see them as co-existing, but i'm open. | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Co-existing in L? | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | And moving to flavor-framework only in M? | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | I've not looked closely into it, but it sounds reasonable to me, especially given that flavor-framework is so new. | 20:50 |
| xgerman | well, flavor is sort of on the edge for M | 20:50 |
| dougwig | do sp's provide enough overhead that it's even worth killing them? the upgrade migration seems unpleasant to deal with. | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | So is the question we're really discussing, "Do we do flavor-framework in L?" | 20:51 |
| xgerman | well, I have a guy who says he is close... | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | Cool | 20:51 |
| xgerman | and i like labs-loadbalancer-create —flavor gold better than —provider <some hardcoded string> | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | Put another way, I don't see us *not* doing the flavor-framework at some point. If we can get it in L, that's great. But since it's so new, let's leave SPs in there and decide later whether to kill it. (ie. we can / should probably kick that can down the road) | 20:52 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: +1 | 20:52 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:52 |
| xgerman | just was confused what the plans were and needed clarification | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, cool! | 20:53 |
| xgerman | #topic Come to consensus on pool sharing: At loadbalancer or listener level? | 20:53 |
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| xgerman | sbalukoff you have the floor | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, I think evgeny and I are now in agreement that pool sharing should happen at the loadbalancer level. Right, evgeny? | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | If so, then there's not much to discuss. :) | 20:53 |
| xgerman | nice | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | It's mostly: Do I need to beat any more of y'all into submission over this design decision. ;) | 20:54 |
| evgenyf | sbalukoff: right | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Especially since we have working code that does the pool sharing at the loadbalancer level. | 20:54 |
| xgerman | we never questioned that. Just the API design frightened us | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, then... we're good? Anything else to discuss on this topic? | 20:54 |
| xgerman | well, API design. We can specify listener-id or l7-policy-id on the pool? | 20:55 |
| xgerman | or is ti load balancer id? | 20:55 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Either or. | 20:55 |
| xgerman | all three? | 20:55 |
| * rm_work is on an even weirder sleep schedule right now than normal | 20:55 | |
| crc32 | hey rm_work the meetings just getting started. | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | Or you can specify both so long as the listener is on the loadbalancer specified. | 20:56 |
| rm_work | lol crc32 | 20:56 |
| xgerman | brogan likes that? | 20:56 |
| evgenyf | l7 policy is specified to a listener | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | evgenyf: Right. As it should be, IMO. :D | 20:56 |
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| xgerman | evgenyf that’s finr | 20:56 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: So to answer your question: Yes. It allows for any combination of the above and figures out how to "do the right thing." | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Ultimately, the pool you create is going to be associated with a loadbalancer one way or another. | 20:57 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: This should prevent breaking backward-compatilibity with previous Neutron LBaaS v2 API. | 20:58 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | (Even though that API is technically experimental. ;) ) | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | In other words, the API changes in my proposed patch are additive. | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, anything else to discuss? We're almost out of time. | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | I wanted to make one last announcement: | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | On a different topic. | 20:59 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think we are done | 20:59 |
| xgerman | everybody save your Open Discussion until next time | 20:59 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | I got the official "Octavia" trademark registration paperwork. Complete with fancy seal from the USPTO. | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 20:59:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-02-20.00.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-02-20.00.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-02-20.00.log.html | 20:59 |
| xgerman | made it in time | 21:00 |
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| jwarendt_ | sbalukoff: cool parting info | 21:00 |
| sbalukoff | So my next step is to check with IBM's lawyers to smooth over the process of getting this transferred to the Openstack Foundation, then get the ball rolling on that. | 21:00 |
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| sbalukoff | Haha! | 21:00 |
| jwarendt_ | sbalukoff: good luck! | 21:01 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks! | 21:01 |
| jwarendt_ | bye | 21:01 |
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| xgerman | bye | 21:01 |
| sbalukoff | Seeya! | 21:01 |
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