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| ganso | u_glide1: Hello! Could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222638/ ? Thanks in advance | 11:30 |
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| rkukura | Hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 16:00 |
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| yamahata | hello | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Lets see who is here, and start in a moment. | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | I see Sukhdev, yamahata, nlahouti, sadasu, and banix - so lets get started | 16:04 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 16:04:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_16.2C_2015 | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Any questions or additions/deletions regarding the agenda? | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | Liberty RC1 is out I believe | 16:06 |
| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_16.2C_2015 | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | I will be missing next weeks ML2 meeting, but Sukhdev will chair | 16:06 |
| rkukura | Any other announcements? | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | #topic ML2 pre-cycle meetup | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | No changes I’m aware of on this. I’ve booked my travel and plan to be there. I think most others are local. | 16:08 |
| rkukura | I certainly encourage anyone who wants to participate to attend. | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | Any questions/comments on the meetup? | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I think yamamoto is local as well - | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | so, yes, all seem to be local | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | #topic Mitaka Design Summit | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I see ML2 state sync and SG driver topics on the list | 16:11 |
| rkukura | And some others are likely to impact ML2 as well | 16:12 |
| rkukura | Is anyone familiar with “ml2 port cross backends extension”? | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | not me | 16:13 |
| yamahata | I'm not. | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | There is a link to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1487978, but this doesn’t seem related to the topic. | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487978 in neutron "Performance of L2 population" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| rkukura | modular L2 agent is also on the list | 16:15 |
| rkukura | Any other questions or comments regarding the upcoming design summit? | 16:16 |
| rkukura | moving along then... | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | #topic Driver API for SGs | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | I don’t see yamamoto. | 16:18 |
| rkukura | Anyone aware of any progress on this? | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | I am not aware of the progress, but, I have a point to make in this regard and see how others feel | 16:18 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Go ahead | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | ACLs in general are a critical feature which spans for Virtual as well Physical environments | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | more and more people are asking for a comprehensive solution to address them | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | we do not have a good or clean solution to deal with the physical devices | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | So, where yamamoto was heading with his discussion was in the right direction | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | I think we should push for this - | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | I wonder if mestery is going to make the call or the new PTL as to which topics will be picked up | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | but, in general, I think, in neutron, we need a framework that will help physical devices as well virtual | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | any thoughts on this? | 16:23 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Are you thinking about ironic/baremetal deployments? | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Or about using physical devices to enforce the ACLs in the virtual environment? | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: the later | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | that will take care of the baremetal deployments as well. | 16:25 |
| rkukura | My thinking is that ML2 needs to make sure some (one or more) MD is taking responsibility for enforicing the SGs for each port binding. | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | for instance some ACLs make sense only on the TORs or Spines, where as others make sense on the VMs | 16:26 |
| rkukura | So this could be the MD for an agent on the host that uses iptables, or for a ToR switch or fabric or whatever. | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | If the SG API is exposed through ML2, then drivers can act on it - regardless of if they dealing the virtual or physical | 16:27 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Do you see the model/API for these ACLs being something different than the current SG API? | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | not really - the API itself seems OK - we need to build a framework so that drivers can be invoked in a reliable manner to process them | 16:29 |
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| rkukura | I agree we need a way for MDs that need to see the SG API calls to be called, but we also need to make sure at least one of the MDs in each portbinding takes responsibility for enforcing the SGs, whether it process the SG API calls to do this, or uses the existing RPC approach. | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | +1 | 16:31 |
| rkukura | I think we need a somewhat concrete proposal to bring to the design summit. | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | If we can get a spot for this, then we can work through the details during the sprint | 16:32 |
| sadasu | +1 for the generic proposal, so far | 16:33 |
| rkukura | I don’t see yamamoto on the list of sprint attendees. | 16:33 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Did you say he is local to the area? | 16:33 |
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| yamahata | I suppose yamahata is local. yamamot is not. | 16:33 |
| rkukura | yamahata: Thanks | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | OK, lets try to make some progress on this SG proposal at the sprint, and include yamamoto and anyone else interested remotely if possible. | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | my bad - sorry for causing the confusion - yes, yamahata needs to attend sprint not yamamoto - one of these days I will get it right | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | Anything else on the SG driver API topic? | 16:36 |
| rkukura | #topic Modular L2 agent & macvtap | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata is interested in sync solution and yamamoto is interested in SG API improvements | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | I don’t see scheuran | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | banix: Are you involved in modular L2 agent at this point? | 16:37 |
| banix | rkukura: I am fraid not | 16:37 |
| rkukura | banix: OK, thanks | 16:37 |
| rkukura | Similarly, I’d hope we could get a semi-concrete proposal for ML2A to discuss at the summit. Lets see if scheuran is here next week. | 16:38 |
| rkukura | Anything else on this topic today? | 16:39 |
| rkukura | If not, on to the last speciific topic on the agenda… | 16:39 |
| rkukura | #topic Physical Topology | 16:39 |
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| rkukura | As usual, asomya and shivharis couldn’t make this meeting | 16:40 |
| rkukura | Does anyone have any update or comments on this one? | 16:40 |
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| rkukura | If not… | 16:41 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | Anything else to discuss today, or can we wrap up? | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | I think we are done for today | 16:42 |
| rkukura | Thanks everyone! | 16:42 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 16:42:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-16-16.04.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-16-16.04.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-16-16.04.log.html | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | none other than shivharis mentioning that they are trying to get a summit session for this | 16:43 |
| rkukura | bye | 16:43 |
| yamahata | thanks, bye | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: OK | 16:43 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 17:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| Kiall | Hey folks - who's about today? | 17:00 |
| timsim | o? | 17:00 |
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| pglass | o/ | 17:00 |
| james_li | james li | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | mugsie's on his way... | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | ekarlso / federico3 / etc about? :) | 17:01 |
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| mlavalle | ahoy | 17:01 |
| federico3 | yup | 17:01 |
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| ekarlso | Kiall: gonna go out soon but atm here :p | 17:02 |
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| elarson | o/ | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | Okay, let get going :) | 17:03 |
| Kiall | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | It's PTL election season again :) | 17:03 |
| Kiall | So - Some of you already know I don't intend to run for PTL again! It's A) time for a change .. I've been running Designate for over 3 years now! and B) My responsibilities inside HP are keeping me just wayy too busy :( | 17:04 |
| ekarlso | about time for a new dictator anyways :P | 17:04 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | So - I know mugsie intends to run, but it's open for anyone :) | 17:05 |
| Kiall | I believe nominations must be in before tomorrow!" | 17:05 |
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| timsim | Cool :) I trust you'll still be around ;) | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | Oh yes, my core job @ HP is still Designate :) | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | o/ | 17:06 |
| mugsie | sorry - got distracted -_- | 17:07 |
| timsim | unacceptable. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:07 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | /kick timsim | 17:07 |
| timsim | !slap mugsie | 17:07 |
| openstack | timsim: Error: "slap" is not a valid command. | 17:07 |
| Kiall | So - a bunch of actions, I managed to get to 0 of mine :( It's been one of those weeks | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | Will rehash them next week :( | 17:08 |
| Kiall | #action kiall / mugsie - get actions done done for next week! | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | Sorry about that! | 17:08 |
| Kiall | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:08 | |
| Kiall | timsim: over to you :) | 17:08 |
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| timsim | Going to skip the ones that are still assigned to mugsie.... | 17:09 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1493942 | 17:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493942 in Designate "API returns incorrect response when a pool has multiple ns records" [Undecided,New] | 17:09 |
| Kiall | This was pglass's one, right? | 17:09 |
| pglass | yeah | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | pglass: did you manage to find a cause etc? But.. Critical / RC1 - Can't ship that. | 17:10 |
| pglass | no, I just reported it | 17:10 |
| pglass | lol | 17:10 |
| Kiall | no worries :) | 17:10 |
| mugsie | OK, need to get that fixed ASAP then :/ | 17:11 |
| Kiall | We'll get it before rc1 :) | 17:11 |
| timsim | Alright | 17:11 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1494132 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494132 in Designate "designate cli shows the domain was created. BUT, the log show the connection was refused by server" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
| Kiall | I saw this one go past earlier - I'm not really sure I understand what's happening. This is same guy mugsie thinks just has this misconfigured? | 17:12 |
| timsim | I think his issue is that the client says it's created, even though it'd go to ERROR? | 17:12 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | its the old no status in V1 API issue | 17:13 |
| Kiall | That's a "feature" (well - mistake) of the V1 API sadly, V2 API/client fixes itr :( | 17:13 |
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| timsim | Yeah. | 17:13 |
| mugsie | yeah. we can close | 17:13 |
| timsim | agreed | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | Yea, with a explanatory comment ofc ;) | 17:13 |
| timsim | I'll close with a message saying the v2 oscli plugin would show that it's error'd? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:13 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1494277 | 17:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494277 in Designate "Auto record creation with sink- Needed user friendly activation " [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Yea, and that V1 has no method to return backend fails | 17:14 |
| Kiall | That feels like mlavalle's work | 17:14 |
| Kiall | (neutron integration) | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:14 |
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| timsim | Close with "we're trying to make this happen in Neutron/Nova?" | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | Yea - I just left the comment tho :) | 17:15 |
| timsim | :) | 17:15 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1494388 | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494388 in Designate "Designate pdns db upgrade needs to set up masters" [Undecided,New] | 17:15 |
| mugsie | H RC1 ? it can just be docs, but we need somethign | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | poor wikimedia got caught by this | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Yea, I think we edit the migration to log a "MANUAL STEP REQUIRED" message for it | 17:16 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:16 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1494799 | 17:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494799 in Designate "500 on listing zones/recordsets with limit=MAX" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | -_- | 17:17 |
| timsim | High RC1? Should be relatively simple | 17:17 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Yea, trivial to fix now that Paul's found it | 17:18 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1495635 | 17:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495635 in Designate "Designate-dashboard package version not parsed correctly from brief_string()" [Undecided,New] | 17:18 |
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| timsim | I wonder if there just need to be more docs around getting that installed/where it can be installed/versions/etc | 17:19 |
| mugsie | i think so | 17:19 |
| mugsie | I know ducttape_ was helping as well | 17:19 |
| mugsie | did you find the root of this issue ? | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Leave as new + rc1 so it's on the list, but I suspect even the simple pep8/py27 gates would be exploding if this was a code issue rather than a mis-matched lib or user error | 17:20 |
| timsim | Alright, that's all of them. We have another one that we still need to report. | 17:21 |
| Kiall | K | 17:21 |
| ducttape_ | ah sorry, waking up | 17:21 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:21 |
| timsim | Basically, you can create a certain blacklist that recurses and crash Designate real hard on a create domain. | 17:21 |
| ducttape_ | yeah, it is a pbr version mismatch between horizon and what the dns-dash needs | 17:21 |
| mugsie | timsim: ouch | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | ducttape_: was it the same release of designate-dash + horizon? | 17:22 |
| ducttape_ | I don't think so | 17:22 |
| ducttape_ | and there was a question of having a stable / backport branch too | 17:22 |
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| timsim | Me or pglass will report that asap. | 17:22 |
| Kiall | timsim: K thanks | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | ducttape_: yea, mugsie mentioned that.. we do kinda have a stable branch already for it tho - https://github.com/openstack/designate/tree/stable/kilo/contrib/designate-dashboard | 17:23 |
| ducttape_ | ah ok. cool. | 17:23 |
| Kiall | Okay, moving on anyway :) | 17:24 |
| Kiall | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/464962/ | 17:24 |
| Kiall | as usual, please take a few mins to eyeball em and nominate anything in need of backporting | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | Yea, it's got real slow these days | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | it's almost etherpad @ the summit speeds ;) | 17:25 |
| timsim | lol | 17:25 |
| Kiall | 746fa57 Merge "Replace request.request_mac with request.mac" <-- If the same bug exists there.. Though, I don't think it does. | 17:25 |
| timsim | eb34b4d Merge "Handling Forbidden Exception" ? | 17:25 |
| Kiall | eb34b4d Merge "Handling Forbidden Exception" | 17:25 |
| Kiall | heh | 17:25 |
| Kiall | yep ;) | 17:26 |
| Kiall | timsim: your agent ones, do they need BPing? | 17:26 |
| timsim | Naw. The one was a tiny enhancement. Unless the patch that broke the other was BP'd but I don't think it was... | 17:26 |
| Kiall | K | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Anyone want to take the action of backporting those 2 then? | 17:27 |
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| timsim | Sure | 17:27 |
| Kiall | k | 17:27 |
| Kiall | #action timsim to backport 746fa57 and eb34b4d | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Moving swiftly on | 17:28 |
| Kiall | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:28 |
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| Kiall | mlavalle: about? | 17:28 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: ahoy | 17:28 |
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| mlavalle | so this week I took a long weekend vacation (daughter got enaged in Washington DC), so progress was slower | 17:28 |
| Kiall | :) | 17:29 |
| mlavalle | still managed to work in the airplanes | 17:29 |
| mlavalle | while wife was sleeping | 17:29 |
| Kiall | hah - I've managed that once, and had the delete all the code after. | 17:29 |
| Kiall | mugsie mentiond something yesterday about Kyle asking about the external DNS stuff landing in Neutron L? | 17:29 |
| mlavalle | yeah, mestery wants to merger https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ asap | 17:29 |
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| mestery | mlavalle: ++ | 17:30 |
| mlavalle | we have the issue of neutron + designate in the gate | 17:30 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: did you have a chance to send email to sdague? | 17:30 |
| Kiall | So, getting a new gate added this late in the cycle seems somewhat unlikely - it adds lots of risk of CI failures to Neutron.. | 17:30 |
| mestery | Kiall: +1, and I'd also like to make sure if we try that we include dougwig and armax in those discussions very early | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Can it land with experimental, and we add the gate once the M cycle opens? | 17:31 |
| mestery | Kiall: +1 | 17:31 |
| Kiall | s/with/as/ | 17:31 |
| armax | mestery: hi | 17:31 |
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| mestery | armax: Sorry, just mentioning a gate for neutron+designate | 17:31 |
| armax | hi | 17:31 |
| armax | :) | 17:31 |
| armax | no worries | 17:31 |
| * armax catches up | 17:31 | |
| armax | for anything infra related I’d be happy to be enslaved | 17:32 |
| mlavalle | Kiall, mestery: i'd bee happy with that plan....... let's start the neutron + designate cpnversation now, so we can merge this early in M | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | mlavalle: well, I think we are talking about doing a experimental gate for L, and still merging this in L | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Yep, I think that's probably for the best given the gate + the patch still needing work | 17:33 |
| Kiall | (and RC in couple of days..) | 17:33 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: cool | 17:33 |
| Kiall | anyone think that's a terrible plan? ;) | 17:33 |
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| mlavalle | as far as the patch itself, I added in the airplane the allembic code to migrate the database + code to the designate driver to add PTR records for the floating ip's we publish | 17:34 |
| mlavalle | thanks to mugsie for the guidance he gave me yesterday | 17:34 |
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| mugsie | i think its great to finally see it so close :) | 17:34 |
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| mlavalle | I will be pushing this update to the patchset in a couple of hours and debug it in my devstack this afternoon / evening | 17:35 |
| mugsie | sweet | 17:35 |
| Kiall | ++ Okay, anything else / or questions before we move on? | 17:36 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have today | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Okay :) | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Moving on | 17:37 |
| Kiall | #topic Liberty RC1 Release | 17:37 |
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| Kiall | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 17:37 |
| Kiall | RC1 is Sept 21-25th | 17:37 |
| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Anything that wasn't up for review, sadly just isn't going to make it :( I pushed them out earlier today. | 17:37 |
| Kiall | So - Similar to last week - quick review of that second link, anything missing? anything not really needed? anything priortized wrong? | 17:38 |
| timsim | Pools-> DB :( | 17:39 |
| Kiall | Yea :( I know :( | 17:39 |
| Kiall | https://review.hpcloud.net/#/c/84650/ | 17:39 |
| Kiall | eh | 17:39 |
| Kiall | wrong link | 17:39 |
| federico3 | shall we assign the critical triaged bugs? | 17:40 |
| Kiall | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213728/ - is +A'd, which is the last open BP on the page there | 17:40 |
| Kiall | federico3: Possibly, but I suspect it's best to get everyone to just people to grab an open one they think they can sort! | 17:41 |
| federico3 | ok! | 17:41 |
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| Kiall | So - Nothing missing? To be removed? The list is still list? (bar BP's - but it's just too late to land code that doesn't exist yet) | 17:42 |
| mugsie | i think we should aim to get them in | 17:42 |
| Kiall | Yea - So nothing to remove is your answer then ;) | 17:42 |
| mugsie | basicallyt | 17:43 |
| Kiall | Okay, I'll just leave this section with a call - nay - pleed - to have everyone dig into these over the next few days ;) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | Moving on :) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:43 |
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| Kiall | Anything else from anyone else? :) | 17:44 |
| elarson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1491981 | 17:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491981 in Designate "Using workers > 1 in mdns and the agent breaks the service " [Critical,Triaged] | 17:44 |
| elarson | looks like using evenlet.listen isn't going to work. I'm going to look into a better solution for reusing the socket | 17:44 |
| mugsie | :/ | 17:45 |
| Kiall | elarson: cool - sounds like a PITA to debug | 17:45 |
| Kiall | Failing a fix, thoughts on leaving it be or choosing to disable workers in K? | 17:45 |
| elarson | not *too* bad :) | 17:45 |
| Kiall | ehh | 17:45 |
| Kiall | in L | 17:45 |
| elarson | I'd disable workers for the time being since it really doens't work | 17:46 |
| mugsie | if it is that broken | 17:46 |
| mugsie | disable | 17:46 |
| elarson | others might want to verify | 17:46 |
| mugsie | or atleast log a big *****DANGER***** | 17:46 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: Yea, ^ makes sense. | 17:46 |
| elarson | just bump workers > 1 in the agent or mdns and you'll start seeing stalls | 17:46 |
| timsim | It was the same type of behavior in mdns right elarson? Not through the proxy? | 17:47 |
| Kiall | Well workers >1 works - at least the last time I tried it! But I never checked for leftover connections in netstat ;) | 17:47 |
| elarson | timsim: yeah | 17:47 |
| timsim | Yeah I thought it worked ok in mdns | 17:47 |
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| timsim | Maybe not | 17:48 |
| elarson | timsim: it was doing the same thing at the agent in our staging env | 17:48 |
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| james_li | but glance binds to a single port 9292 right? | 17:48 |
| james_li | glance-api | 17:48 |
| james_li | it seems to be reusing that port well | 17:48 |
| elarson | james_li: yes, but they aren't using the SO_REUSEPORT | 17:48 |
| elarson | I suspect it reuses the fd | 17:49 |
| james_li | elarson: what they are doing for reuse port? | 17:49 |
| elarson | which is what I'd consider changing to | 17:49 |
| elarson | it isn't as good of load balancing (based on cursory tests) but it still is better than nothign | 17:49 |
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| Kiall | Well, if dropping the SO_REUSEPORT option and opening the socket before we fork the workers solves the issue.. yea, that seems like a reasonable fix. | 17:50 |
| james_li | I agree | 17:50 |
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| elarson | I'll update that ticket though with any findings. haven't had as much time to mess with it as I've been working on an ALIAS impl | 17:50 |
| Kiall | SO_REUSEPORT isn't great at balancing either - it actually tends to skew heavily towards 1 under load anyway! | 17:50 |
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| elarson | Kiall: yeah I wouldn't expect it to be *that* much better | 17:50 |
| Kiall | Yea,.. Okay - a few mins left.. Anything else before we call it a day? | 17:52 |
| mugsie | Well, as Kiall said before - I am plannign to run for PTL next cycle | 17:52 |
| james_li | Kiall: do we freeze merging on designateclient? | 17:52 |
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| james_li | for this cycle | 17:52 |
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| mugsie | but - if you are interested in runing please do :) | 17:52 |
| Kiall | james_li: the clients tend to be a bit more open than the "server" components for late merges... But we shouldn't land massive changes ;) | 17:53 |
| mugsie | we don;t freeze clients on the same scheduale - or do we now | 17:53 |
| Kiall | mugsie: ++ | 17:53 |
| * elarson hopes mugsie made some "Vote for Mugsie" bumper stickers | 17:53 | |
| mugsie | didnt that change again? | 17:53 |
| Kiall | hah | 17:53 |
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| Kiall | So - Anyone else considering running | 17:53 |
| Kiall | Is anyone* | 17:54 |
| james_li | Kiall: ok makes sense, and usually how often do we publish client code to pypi? | 17:54 |
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| timsim | I don't think anyone else is considering running :) | 17:54 |
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| Kiall | james_li: Historically, whenever we've had enough / interesting changes to warrant it | 17:54 |
| Kiall | We're def due one with the L release though | 17:55 |
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| james_li | got it thx! | 17:55 |
| Kiall | Okay - Any final takers on off-agenda topics before we call it a day? ;) | 17:56 |
| Kiall | According to the time in my IRC client we have 2 mins ;) | 17:56 |
| * elarson thinks pglass should run, declare martial law and make mugsie Project Dictator | 17:56 | |
| mugsie | :) | 17:57 |
| Kiall | HAH | 17:57 |
| Kiall | ++ | 17:57 |
| federico3 | :D | 17:57 |
| timsim | ++pglass for PTL | 17:57 |
| elarson | #moredramainopenstack | 17:57 |
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| * elarson is done now | 17:57 | |
| timsim | pglbuttstack | 17:58 |
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| Kiall | I'm guessing this never ends ;) | 17:58 |
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| Kiall | I know how to end it! | 17:58 |
| timsim | Pretty much. | 17:58 |
| elarson | https://s.yimg.com/cd/diminuendo/1.0/original/63e702122d9810bf2c82b9b54098235ec2809b52.gif | 17:58 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 17:58:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-16-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-16-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-16-17.00.log.html | 17:58 |
| Kiall | See - that worked ;) | 17:58 |
| timsim | lol. o/ | 17:58 |
| Kiall | Okay, thanks folks :) RC1 will likely be before the next meet, assuming we can knock everything out :) Cya then! | 17:58 |
| elarson | later all | 17:58 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks Kiall | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 18:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:01 |
| ashleigh | o/ | 18:01 |
| edmondk | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | Hi Trove folks! | 18:01 |
| atomic77 | O//~-~ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | meeting agenda at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Trove_Meeting.2C_Sept_16.2C_2015 | 18:01 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik wanted to say thanks for your last 3 cycles of leadership and PTLness :) | 18:01 |
| cp16net | heyo | 18:01 |
| mvandijk | ./ | 18:02 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | dougshelley66: No worries, and I'll be sticking around — just want to make sure we increase our PTL bus factor to something other than 1 :) | 18:03 |
| amrith | PTLAwesomeness is a word I'll have y'all know. | 18:03 |
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| cp16net | ++ | 18:03 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:03 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:03 |
| pmalik | ./ | 18:03 |
| schang | o/ | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | So let's take a look at reviewstats as we give folks a few more minutes to trickle in. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:05 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | Fewer reviews last week — I think most folks are still recovering from the Liberty-3 craze. | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | We'll have to step up our review game to get the RC1 bugs through this week and next, though. | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | According to the release schedule, our first RC1 will be cut next week. | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | Incidentally this will be the time that the Mitaka branch will open for submissions — I know we have at least a couple of BPs on hold for that which we can get through once the branch opens. | 18:08 |
| cp16net | yeah i think we do | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | So let's make one more last push to get most of the RC1 bugs in flight reviewed for Liberty-RC1. | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | Almost across the finish line here :) | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | Speaking of the Liberty release — this is a good transition to the next topic. | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Trove client 1.3.0 released | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | We just cut a release for a new version of python-troveclient | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | #link https://github.com/openstack/python-troveclient/tree/1.3.0 | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | Basically it's the current master of the python-troveclient repo. | 18:12 |
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| cp16net | nice looks good | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | Was working with the release-management team to cut the stable/liberty branch of the client based on this release. | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | Any objections to that? I didn't see anything else in the pipeline for the client that seemed essential for the liberty release. | 18:13 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: "cut" means create a stable/liberty branch on the repo? | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: yes — the current master will become stable/liberty of python-troveclient. | 18:13 |
| cp16net | sounds gravy to me | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | Sounds good. | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | Will make it so. | 18:15 |
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| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to follow up with release-mgmt team to cut the 1.3.0 release of the troveclient as the stable/liberty release | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | #topic Liberty RC1 release | 18:16 |
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| amrith | this may be a mea-culpa | 18:16 |
| amrith | cut and paste legacy | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | Just want to go over this one nevertheless. | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | We currently have a list of bugs targeted for liberty-rc1, some of which are not super-critical and others which aren't started yet. | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | I was going to make a triage pass over the list, bumping any non-critical bugs that haven't been started out of liberty-rc1 into the mitaka relase. | 18:18 |
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| cp16net | looks like there are some bugs there that we need to work on for the rc1 | 18:19 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net: Yes, there are a few that are still not "In Progress" so I suspect that they probably will not land next week for Liberty-1. | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | Looking at that list, I see quite a few that aren't critical or high priority for rc1, so we should be okay moving them out to Mitaka. | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | I'll be reaching out to folks who the bugs are assigned to, to figure out if they're on track or need to be moved out. | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | Also if there are any bugs that folks are working on that they feel are critical enough to be in Liberty-RC1 but are not part of that list, please reach out to me and let me know so that we can add it to the RC1 bug list. | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | Any other questions or clarifications regarding any of this? | 18:25 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | #topic Is there anything we want from the OSLO team? | 18:26 |
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| amrith | that's me | 18:26 |
| amrith | the question was from the oslo team | 18:26 |
| amrith | is there something we want from them for the next release | 18:26 |
| amrith | if anyone has ideas, please let me know or come to the next oslo meeting, monday at noon (eastern). | 18:26 |
| amrith | thanks! | 18:26 |
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| cp16net | amrith: the only thing i can think of is using the rcp version stuff i think that they already have but we just need to look into | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: I can't think of anything specific at the moment. | 18:27 |
| cp16net | but yeah nothing *new* from them | 18:28 |
| amrith | cp16net, what's rcp version stuff? | 18:28 |
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| amrith | oh | 18:28 |
| amrith | rpc | 18:28 |
| amrith | never mind | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Also one thing that's on my list for the next cycle(oslo-related) is to try and switch trove over to using oslo config generator for the trove configs. | 18:28 |
| amrith | yes, they have it. | 18:28 |
| amrith | SlickNik, yes that's a trove thing. Is there something we need from oslo for that? | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | But I believe all of that's already in place, we just have some dev work to go ahead and switch over to using that. | 18:29 |
| amrith | I think that's more like a work item for us, yes? | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | Nope, purely trove related work, yes. | 18:29 |
| amrith | ok | 18:29 |
| cp16net | yeah i think most of them are work for us to do :-P | 18:29 |
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| SlickNik | Okay, anything more related to this topic? | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | . | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:30 |
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| amrith | I have two | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | Any topics for Open Discussion? | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | go for it amrith | 18:31 |
| amrith | topic 1, email from Bruno, nova (and other project) protected resources | 18:31 |
| amrith | topic 2, getting SlickNik's change for remote.py merged | 18:31 |
| amrith | so, on #1 ... for those of you who were in Vancouver, we had a conversation about how we could protect resources launched by Trove. | 18:32 |
| amrith | I'd proposed a bp which went nowhere in a real hurry. | 18:32 |
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| amrith | Bruno proposed one that (it appears from his email) that the Nova team is smiling on. | 18:32 |
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| * amrith looks for a number | 18:32 | |
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| SlickNik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203880/ | 18:33 |
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| amrith | thanks SlickNik | 18:33 |
| dougshelley66 | 42 | 18:33 |
| amrith | I'd like all of us to take a look at this spec | 18:33 |
| amrith | that's where the number went, Doug took it ... | 18:33 |
| amrith | OK, so please take a gander at that spec. | 18:33 |
| cp16net | uy/me stared it | 18:33 |
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| amrith | hope we get this implemented in the M release, but the targets and priority are unspecified at this time. | 18:34 |
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| amrith | That's all I had for topic #1 | 18:34 |
| amrith | anyone have thoughts, comments ... | 18:34 |
| amrith | . | 18:34 |
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| amrith | moving on | 18:34 |
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| amrith | topic #2. SlickNik ... how're we doing on this one? | 18:34 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193010/ | 18:35 |
| amrith | not 42 | 18:35 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: I plan on fixing that review up in time to merge for the Liberty-rc period. | 18:35 |
| amrith | sold! | 18:36 |
| amrith | will look out for the review | 18:36 |
| amrith | I'm all set | 18:36 |
| * amrith wonders whether anyone can help me understand why my laptop is so noisy today | 18:36 | |
| SlickNik | Will drop folks a line in #openstack-trove once I have the tests cleaned up and review comments addressed for that review. | 18:37 |
| cp16net | changes in that remote.py will help resolve the periodic exist events | 18:37 |
| cp16net | at least last time i ran into an issue testing that | 18:37 |
| cp16net | some of those changes helped | 18:37 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: Plus there was discussion in an earlier ML thread about folks who were interested to know how to use trove to deploy instances all in a single hidden "admin" tenant. | 18:38 |
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| SlickNik | And this follows up with showing them how do to that. | 18:39 |
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| cp16net | yeah i was just mentioning that on a side note this also helps other things in our project :) | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | I suspect we'll need a bit more documentation / explanation, but that's not subject to the liberty release date and can come in the subsequent days. :) | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | yup, agreed. | 18:39 |
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| SlickNik | Any other items for Open Discussion? | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | In that case, let's call it a wrap. | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:43 |
| dougshelley66 | thanks | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 18:43:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-16-18.01.html | 18:43 |
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| cp16net | thx! :) | 18:43 |
| amrith | thanks! | 18:43 |
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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 19:01:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 19:01 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 19:01 |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 19:02 |
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| sgordon | \o/ | 19:02 |
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| sgordon | anyone around for the telco working group | 19:02 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-16-19.01.html | 19:05 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 20:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:00 |
| sballe | o/ | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
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| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| blallau | hi | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy, folks! | 20:00 |
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| blogan | hello | 20:01 |
| xgerman | blallau hi | 20:01 |
| sballe | I have one quick annoucement | 20:01 |
| xgerman | glad you could make it | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, good to see you, sballe. | 20:01 |
| sballe | I just wanted to let you know that I won’t be able to participle in LBaaS/Octavia moving forward. My new job doesn’t include LBaaS and Octavia . I have been gone for a while: first 4 weeks of vacation and then transitioning into my new job at Intel so I don’t blame you if you don’t remember me ;-) I talked to xgerman and told him I would like to | 20:01 |
| sballe | help with the hands on lab on Octavia in Tokyo and he told me I am still welcome to do that even though I am moving on. I hope you guys agree… | 20:01 |
| sballe | I hope you can read all this | 20:01 |
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| dougwig | sballe: congrats on your new job, hope to see you around. of course you're welcome. :) | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | That's too bad, Susanne. And yes, for what it's worth, I think it's worthwile to have you help with the hands-on lab (though of course I don't determine that myself) | 20:02 |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:02 |
| sballe | dougwig: cool! thx. | 20:02 |
| ptoohill | 0/ | 20:02 |
| blogan | sballe: congrats, we'll miss you. thanks for all your work | 20:02 |
| crc32 | hello. | 20:02 |
| minwang2 | congrats sballe | 20:02 |
| sballe | :-) | 20:02 |
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| crc32 | Good luck with intel | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Well in any case, I hope the new job is a worthwhile promotion (and congrats, eh!) | 20:02 |
| sballe | thx | 20:02 |
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| crc32 | so uh. Your coming to rack space. | 20:02 |
| crc32 | we got flooded by intel people recently | 20:03 |
| sballe | nice | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:03 |
| blogan | intel is a small company | 20:03 |
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| dougwig | very small | 20:03 |
| ptoohill | tiny | 20:03 |
| sballe | yeah I haven't been asked to go and visit rax yet | 20:03 |
| xgerman | yep + all roads lead to St Anton | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | They have like 3 employees, right? | 20:03 |
| crc32 | supposedly a big team is gonna sit adjacent to our block. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Hahaha, just 16,000+ in Oregon | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | 4 now, with Susanne. | 20:03 |
| sballe | I am sure our path will corss again | 20:03 |
| blogan | its anice little startup | 20:03 |
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| sballe | lol | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:04 |
| dougwig | they do have issues with product adoption. | 20:04 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: In that they aren't quite 100% of the CPU market yet. | 20:04 |
| sballe | lol | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | I'm sure Susanne will fix that for them. | 20:05 |
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| crc32 | wow I'm on all intel hardware apparently. At home and work. | 20:05 |
| xgerman | I have faith in her | 20:05 |
| crc32 | model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690 CPU @ 3.50GHz | 20:05 |
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| sballe | I will miss oyu all but I will be in Tokyo working on the Octvia all hands and so we;ll see each othe than. I''l continue to attend the Octavia weekly meetings until then | 20:05 |
| crc32 | except for my PS4. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:06 |
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| sballe | yeah I have a PS$ too | 20:06 |
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| sballe | PS4 | 20:06 |
| crc32 | we have 4 of us going to tokyo too. | 20:06 |
| sballe | the rest of my stuff is Intel too | 20:06 |
| xgerman | moving on... | 20:06 |
| sballe | crc32: cool! | 20:06 |
| xgerman | Mitaka design summit doc: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 20:06 |
| xgerman | if you have ideas for topics please add | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | We need to get LBaaS and Octavia on there. | 20:07 |
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| sbalukoff | I don't see them mentioned at all yet. | 20:07 |
| sballe | +1 | 20:07 |
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| dougwig | we need to get them on there if we have things that need face time to discuss. let's not add just to add. just my personal IMO. | 20:07 |
| xgerman | do we have stuff to discuss (e.g. Pool sharing) | 20:07 |
| xgerman | ? | 20:07 |
| blogan | im not sure we have to discuss that face to face | 20:08 |
| johnsom | active-active aproaches? | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | pool sharing, active-active topology discussion, operator API discussion, | 20:08 |
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| sbalukoff | heat integration | 20:08 |
| blogan | i think next steps for octavia woudl be great to discuss | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | There's a lot to discuss (again, there are IBM people already working on some of that) | 20:08 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff: working on the active active? | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | yes. And heat integration. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Great, so you guys can share | 20:09 |
| xgerman | awesome | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | patches? | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | they jumped into it and then promptly went on vacation. I have a call with them tomorrow morning. | 20:09 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:09 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: you putting that stuff onto the mitaka etherpad? | 20:09 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: well i do worry about just moving forward with feature after feature, especially more complex features with stability and bug fixes languishing | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | And they've already promised to send designs my direction so that I can give them feedback before they go to the larger group. | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Agreed. | 20:10 |
| xgerman | nice | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | I'm trying to channel their enthusiasm in directions useful to the project. | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: I will put it on the mitaka etherpad. | 20:10 |
| xgerman | thanks sbalukoff | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | (Feel free to action-item me on that.) | 20:10 |
| johnsom | blogan I agree, we have some cleanup to do | 20:10 |
| blogan | i kinda feel we should keep the features limited this next cycle, and focus on technical debt, stability, and bug fixes | 20:10 |
| xgerman | #action sbalukoff to put next steps Octavia on etherpad | 20:10 |
| xgerman | blogan +1000 | 20:11 |
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| johnsom | I would propose we get VRRP and multi-controller working in M | 20:11 |
| dougwig | put the ideas on the etherpad. hopefully we can have fewer sessions this time about how much neutron sucks, and more on useful topics. i'd still like to chat about separate rest vs neutron extension, but i don't think we need 40 minutes. | 20:11 |
| blogan | johnsom: agreed | 20:11 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: I'm with you on that. I'm hoping to convince the IBM folks to attack both stability and feature improvements by throwing more engineers at the problem. | 20:11 |
| xgerman | I am still hoping for VRRP in L… but... | 20:11 |
| blogan | dougwig: we can probably fit everythign into a general "next steps for octavia" designs ession | 20:11 |
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| sbalukoff | Because I know they are probably making assumptions about project stability that aren't true yet. :) | 20:11 |
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| dougwig | blogan: i'm thinking fwaas and vpnaas as well on that prior topic. | 20:12 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: if they assume stability they are making the wrong assumption :) | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Haha! | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | True enough. | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I haven't given up on VRRP in L | 20:12 |
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| blogan | dougwig: in the same design session? | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:12 |
| dougwig | i'm beginning to notice how every summit we have a new corporate overlord. mirantis, then hp, now ibm. | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | I want to see that, too! | 20:12 |
| xgerman | no, that should get their won | 20:12 |
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| xgerman | also we at HP have a huge interest in stability | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Oh, IBM isn't nearly overlord status yet. | 20:13 |
| blogan | johnsom: the gate problems havent helped it | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | HP and RAX are the biggest contributors by far right now, eh. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | blogan yes, it is distracting me | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | ok, let’s keep mobing | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | I figure if I can convince the IBM people that y'all are a threat (haha!), they might throw more engineers at this. And then we get better product faster! XD | 20:13 |
| xgerman | Horizon work is going strong. TWC signed up; new exciting mocks in https://openstack.invisionapp.com/d/main#/projects/4716314 | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Just kidding on the threat thing, actually. But I am letting them know if they want influence, they have to commit more resources. | 20:14 |
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| xgerman | so there has been some movement and TimewarnerCable donated some respurces | 20:14 |
| blogan | awesome | 20:14 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: IBM needs to compete with HP for summit party quality. | 20:14 |
| johnsom | xgerman +1 | 20:14 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:14 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: I'm working hard on that, too! | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:14 |
| blogan | rackspace will compete with me and the party i dont plan to throw, my part will still win | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Yeah, maybe horzion panels also a target for M | 20:14 |
| blogan | party | 20:14 |
| xgerman | johnsom looks like that | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Anyway... er... what were we talking about again? ;) | 20:15 |
| xgerman | anyhow, we have some nice new mocks which look like fun | 20:15 |
| xgerman | rm_work is barbican getting a UI? | 20:15 |
| xgerman | since we need to figure out the UX of the SSL cert | 20:15 |
| dougwig | xgerman: how can i get an account on invisionapp ? | 20:15 |
| rm_work | eventually | 20:15 |
| redrobot | xgerman we hope to be in horizon eventually, but nobody is working on that currenlty. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:16 |
| xgerman | dougwig ask in the ux project channel? | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | I don't have an account there either. | 20:16 |
| rm_work | I don't know how soon though, it is not in their immediate plans | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! Which channel is that? | 20:16 |
| rm_work | ah redrobot is here to answer cool :P | 20:16 |
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| sbalukoff | Yay, redrobot! | 20:16 |
| xgerman | ok, since we can’t really put in our UI “now go to the CLI and run" | 20:16 |
| sballe | lol | 20:17 |
| blogan | xgerman: we can emulate a terminal in the UI | 20:17 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:17 |
| xgerman | #topic Liberty deadline stuff | 20:17 |
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| blogan | major thing is the gate and tempest tests | 20:18 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 20:18 |
| xgerman | dougwig do we need the gate? | 20:18 |
| blogan | i failed to even consider the scenario tests in my fixes because im a dumb shit | 20:18 |
| dougwig | xgerman: yep | 20:18 |
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| dougwig | i'd be fine with just api tests. | 20:18 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Yeah. So question for dougwig, is there a way we can get bare metal for the tests? | 20:18 |
| xgerman | can we use 3rd party CI for that? | 20:18 |
| rm_work | or at least a different type of node that has vt-x | 20:19 |
| dougwig | johnsom: i highly highly doubt it, since all of those tests run on donated instances. but... they are donated from rax and hp, so... can you donate bare metal? | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Yeah, or nested virtualization turned on | 20:19 |
| blogan | or run a small subset of tests for the gate, temporarily | 20:19 |
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| rm_work | yeah | 20:19 |
| dougwig | how does trove handle this? | 20:19 |
| rm_work | maybe we can figure out a better way to share some of the created LBs? | 20:19 |
| rm_work | like merge some of the tests onto the same base? | 20:19 |
| xgerman | they only spin up three instances for all their tests | 20:19 |
| johnsom | dougwig Trove boots just one or two VMS | 20:20 |
| johnsom | We could make dsvm-1 dsvm-2 dsvm-3 that covers all of the tests..... | 20:20 |
| johnsom | I guess | 20:20 |
| dougwig | can we reuse amp's for test purposes? and maybe use a periodic job that does it clean? | 20:20 |
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| xgerman | probably but fresh tests are better | 20:21 |
| johnsom | The main issue is without the vt-x, we hit the two hour limit on the tests | 20:21 |
| xgerman | if we reuse we need to troubleshoot crazy side effects | 20:21 |
| blogan | i dont think we could do that, at least not in a way that would be quick and taht the tests control | 20:21 |
| cp16net | fwiw trove uses a devstack instance and spins up a few instances on the node but only a max of 2 at a time. | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom has code to eliminate the generation of the amp image if it's already there... once we figure out the logic there (ie. so we don't skip that step if it's needed), that might help somewhat. | 20:21 |
| cp16net | (i think this is what you guys are talking about) | 20:21 |
| xgerman | cp16met you are right | 20:22 |
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| johnsom | sbalukoff yeah, we have been testing that today. It buys us just ten minutes | 20:22 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: i dont think it'll help enough | 20:22 |
| dougwig | we can increase the timeout, but honestly anything >60mins is a big pain anyway. | 20:22 |
| blogan | dougwig: agreed | 20:22 |
| cp16net | xgerman: :) | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, so reworking the tests to use fewer instances is going to be key. | 20:22 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:22 |
| xgerman | or containers? | 20:22 |
| johnsom | So what about breaking the tests down across multiple jobs? | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: And then leave VM testing to 3rd party CI? | 20:22 |
| xgerman | that’s just dirty? | 20:23 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff +1 | 20:23 |
| xgerman | or say the future are containers :-) | 20:23 |
| blogan | containers is the solution, but not in the RC1 timeframe | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! Indeed. | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Dammit. | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | We | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | We're so close! | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, the same with nested virt enablement | 20:23 |
| xgerman | yeah | 20:23 |
| xgerman | so, douigwig | 20:23 |
| xgerman | 1) timing — when do we need to have something | 20:23 |
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| rm_work | oh actually, i don't honestly thing that's TOO bad | 20:24 |
| dougwig | i just asked in -infra, fyi. | 20:24 |
| rm_work | *think | 20:24 |
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| blogan | dougwig: what if we did a limited # of tests temporarily until containers or some other solution is completed? | 20:24 |
| dougwig | johnsom: if you can get them all <60, that'd work for now. | 20:24 |
| rm_work | if we broke the tests up into "apiv2-part1" "apiv2-part2" and they could run in parallel | 20:24 |
| xgerman | or increase timeout... | 20:24 |
| rm_work | different gate jobs | 20:24 |
| xgerman | or do rm_works things | 20:24 |
| xgerman | what would be acceptable? | 20:24 |
| rm_work | was johnsom's proposal | 20:24 |
| johnsom | dougwig half the problem is just getting the system setup is 30 minutes before the tests start | 20:25 |
| rm_work | i just happen to agree that might work | 20:25 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: i think buying 10m with the downloaded image is a good start, and we shouldn't ignore that even if it doesn't solve the whole problem | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Agreed | 20:25 |
| rm_work | then splitting into multiple gate jobs might actually be ok | 20:25 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:25 |
| rm_work | how hard would that actually be? | 20:25 |
| xgerman | well, would infra let us do that and would that make neutron happy | 20:26 |
| dougwig | johnsom: those timeouts are configurable in the job definition. | 20:26 |
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| blogan | break it up by load balancer, listener, pool, member, and health monitor tests? | 20:26 |
| rm_work | i don't know if infra would take objection to that | 20:26 |
| dougwig | johnsom: but eek | 20:26 |
| rm_work | blogan: yeah that seems good | 20:26 |
| blogan | health monitor runs first, let me see how long that took | 20:26 |
| rm_work | separately, they aren't that bad | 20:27 |
| dougwig | given the operators in the room here, is there any chance of a 3rd party CI setup with faster nodes? | 20:27 |
| rm_work | like 30-40m i think | 20:27 |
| rm_work | dougwig: can 3rd party CI be voting? | 20:27 |
| dougwig | or donate such to infra, if they can use them? | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I think the tests are fairly self contained. It's just a gate wizard to get the jobs setup | 20:27 |
| rm_work | and is that a good idea? | 20:27 |
| dougwig | rm_work: aye | 20:27 |
| rm_work | I like the "splitting by test type" approach | 20:27 |
| blogan | looks like it'd clock in at an hour | 20:27 |
| rm_work | apiv2-hm | 20:27 |
| rm_work | apiv2-listener | 20:27 |
| rm_work | etc | 20:27 |
| rm_work | an hour is acceptable for dsvm, and they'd run in parallel | 20:28 |
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| johnsom | dougwig I'm working on an internal discussion to get the nested virt turned on, but I have no idea when it would happen | 20:28 |
| rm_work | we'd just be claiming like 5 extra jenkins nodes | 20:28 |
| blogan | looks like there are some random failures in the tests too | 20:28 |
| xgerman | well, we have hardware so in theory we can set up a 3rd party CI with VT-X | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:29 |
| xgerman | but then we also need to maintain it so I like splitting tests better | 20:29 |
| xgerman | (and our network hasn’t been happy the last few weeks) | 20:29 |
| johnsom | My vote is to split the tests | 20:29 |
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| blogan | we can look at doing a bare metal instance here | 20:30 |
| ptoohill | abiggun | 20:30 |
| xgerman | I think we all have hardware ;-) | 20:30 |
| crc32 | so how much hardware do you guys want? | 20:30 |
| rm_work | yeah i vote split tests first | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | Spitting the tests makes sense even with the bare metal. | 20:30 |
| rm_work | and if that gets pushback or doesn't work, then we can continue investigating baremetal | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | It also feels like a lower-hanging fruit in this case. | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | So yes, let's split the tests. | 20:31 |
| blogan | dougwig: thoughts? | 20:31 |
| xgerman | agreed. that abs my vote as well — | 20:31 |
| blogan | on splitting the tests | 20:31 |
| xgerman | it’s not like our solar is rock solid | 20:31 |
| xgerman | solar=sonar | 20:31 |
| dougwig | i agree on starting there, and then we can run one of them (pick a good subset) in the neutron check queue, all in ours. | 20:31 |
| xgerman | oh, we just run all and pig out... | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:32 |
| rm_work | ah yeah good point | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | We're important enough! I'm sure other projects will understand. XD | 20:32 |
| rm_work | there is a neutron check for octavia as well | 20:32 |
| rm_work | i agree with dougwig'd assessment | 20:33 |
| xgerman | yeah, once they donate hardware they can have a seat at the table :-) | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:33 |
| dougwig | clarkb pointed me at this interesting thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-September/003138.html | 20:33 |
| xgerman | mmh... | 20:34 |
| dougwig | if we do want to look at finding donated hardware, a) it'd take time to sort out, and b) we'd need it from multiple providers, if we wanted a shot at getting it into infra's setup. 3rd party we could do today. it can vote (non-binding) in the check queue. | 20:34 |
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| johnsom | Cool, let's find their tag and use it...<grin> | 20:35 |
| crc32 | we have an account that is a botemless pit for vms but I don't see any baremetal on it. | 20:35 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: ha, no. | 20:36 |
| dougwig | :) | 20:36 |
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| crc32 | oh wow we do have baremetal | 20:36 |
| crc32 | suckers | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | I'll start poking my superiors about the possibility of donating hardware for this. I have no idea what that looks like at IBM, but I guess I'll find out. XD | 20:36 |
| sballe | +1 | 20:36 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: it looks like you crying | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | that doesn't get us out of the immediate crisis yet, of course. | 20:36 |
| rm_work | yeah, i'm prodding people internally about enabling vt-x | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | And neither does me crying. | 20:36 |
| johnsom | In reality, we don't even need bare metal, just a host booted with the vt-x enabled | 20:36 |
| rm_work | but yes, for now, splitting up the tests | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | So.... let's split tests and hope for the best for now? | 20:37 |
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| blogan | yeah | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Split the tests! | 20:37 |
| xgerman | that’s the plan | 20:37 |
| xgerman | and then get one of those mainframes sbalukoff sells | 20:37 |
| rm_work | split the tests! split the tests! </chant> | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | We need a fight song. | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I'll bet I can get my hands on a few AS/400's, eh. ;) | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Who knows best how to get those setup? | 20:38 |
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| blogan | who set this job up? | 20:38 |
| crc32 | Yea sure along with a PDP-11 | 20:38 |
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| xgerman | ok, up next: Active-Passive | 20:39 |
| blogan | each job would just do tox -e apiv2 neutron_lbaas.tests.tempest.api.v2.test_load_balancers | 20:39 |
| blogan | or something like that | 20:39 |
| blogan | and test_lsiteners | 20:39 |
| blogan | etc | 20:39 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:39 |
| blogan | i cant typ | 20:39 |
| dougwig | look at [testenv:apiv2] in tox.ini. we just need more of those, that run subsets. | 20:39 |
| xgerman | neither can I | 20:39 |
| dougwig | then we can add jobs. | 20:39 |
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| blogan | dougwig: couldnt we just change the tox execution line | 20:39 |
| blogan | instead of adding more tox sections | 20:39 |
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| xgerman | yeah, what’s the difference between the two? | 20:40 |
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| rm_work | not much | 20:40 |
| xgerman | so let’s do what’s easier | 20:40 |
| rm_work | more sections in tox.ini makes it easier to remember how to do it? i guess | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 20:40 |
| dougwig | yeah, we could do it with a var. | 20:40 |
| dougwig | the subsets will be defined somewhere... either in tox.ini or the gate hook script. | 20:41 |
| rm_work | well, one lets us control it with changes to openstack/octavia, the other would require us to make changes to openstack-infra/project-config if we needed to update it | 20:41 |
| dougwig | no, it's tox.ini or gate hook in neutron-lbaas | 20:41 |
| rm_work | ah, we'd do it in gate_hook? | 20:41 |
| dougwig | i think post_test_hook, actually. | 20:42 |
| dougwig | which is actually a "run this test" hook for us. | 20:42 |
| rm_work | so the gate definition would pass "LISTENER" or "HEALTH_MANAGER" to the post_test_hook.sh | 20:42 |
| blogan | sounds like we have the people who are going to do this sorted :) | 20:42 |
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| dougwig | but we're in the weeds. | 20:42 |
| rm_work | and then we'd interpret that | 20:42 |
| rm_work | lol yeah kk :P | 20:42 |
| xgerman | ok, so ACTIVE-PASSIVE | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Agreed. | 20:42 |
| xgerman | johnsom | 20:42 |
| dougwig | rm_work: yeah, in the job template we put a var with the subset, then the hooks pick up on that, then they invoke tox with a specific env or specific args. | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | Yes, active-passive! | 20:43 |
| rm_work | dougwig: kk | 20:43 |
| johnsom | So VRRP is in pretty good shape. I have a race condition I'm fixing right now (when not watching gates timeout) | 20:43 |
| xgerman | gates really got in the way | 20:43 |
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| johnsom | Yes, would have been done yesterday. | 20:43 |
| crc32 | so are we going to use ubuntu debian redhat or what on this Metal Trash can? | 20:44 |
| xgerman | so given our deadlines — when do we need that dougwig? | 20:44 |
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| xgerman | aka when is the RC1 code freeze? | 20:44 |
| blogan | id like to get teh scenario tests passing with octavia as well, but, looks like there is also some random failures in the api tests with octavia | 20:44 |
| blogan | xgerman: 23rd no? | 20:44 |
| rm_work | blogan: random as in "intermittent"? | 20:44 |
| blogan | rm_work: yes | 20:44 |
| rm_work | blegh | 20:44 |
| dougwig | asap | 20:44 |
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| blogan | rm_work: the best kind | 20:44 |
| xgerman | what is it? 23rd or asap? | 20:45 |
| xgerman | ok, ASAP it is | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Ok, so I am going to stop messing with the gate stuff and focus on VRRP | 20:45 |
| rm_work | johnsom: well, i still think we need to finish up the pre-built image thing | 20:46 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think it’s in rm_works and dougwigs capable hands | 20:46 |
| blogan | well do we have it settled on who will split the tests up? | 20:46 |
| xgerman | rm_work? | 20:46 |
| blogan | how important is it to get vrrp in? | 20:46 |
| blogan | im still uncertain about that | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Folks can review it now, even run it. I am just fixing a situation where it checks for spares incorrectly | 20:46 |
| dougwig | we're technically in the bugfix period of things, and these gate changes are a "bug fix", so we're in danger with that not being present. i'm not sure there's a hard date, but whichever RC looks to be the final release, will be the deadline. | 20:46 |
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| xgerman | mmh, so time for hard choices? | 20:47 |
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| rm_work | dougwig: you want to do it? I am not sure what you had in mind exactly for the handling, but I can do it if you don't care how it is done :P | 20:47 |
| crc32 | One trash metal box spinning up | 20:48 |
| xgerman | well, 12 minutes left | 20:48 |
| dougwig | rm_work: take a crack at it. | 20:48 |
| blogan | if vrrp getting in after L isn't too big of an issue, I'd feel much better not trying to rush review it while this gate stuff is giong on | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: +1 | 20:49 |
| blogan | i feel the same way about the containers patches we have that we at rackspace need, but ive been holding that one off as well | 20:49 |
| dougwig | blogan: +1 | 20:49 |
| dougwig | if it's not *solid* and in, i don't think we should be trying to get it in at this point. we're well past FF. | 20:50 |
| xgerman | well, FF is that the patch is committed | 20:50 |
| xgerman | but I agree we need to review it and if we don’t have the time we don't | 20:50 |
| xgerman | ok, let’s move it out then | 20:52 |
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| sbalukoff | Bummer. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | #decision to delay ACTIBVE-PASSIVE to M | 20:53 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff +1 | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Sad, but a good call | 20:53 |
| blogan | it is sad, but we still have a lot done for L | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | By the way: We totally intend to use it once it's merged into master. So... when does L get tagged so we can merge it? ;) | 20:53 |
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| xgerman | I am still planning to demo it in Tokyo ;-) | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:54 |
| minwang2 | +1 | 20:54 |
| johnsom | Hahaha Sounds like sbalukoff is volunteering to do a review | 20:54 |
| xgerman | #topic Octavia talk | 20:54 |
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| dougwig | well, octavia is release:independent, so i'd say as soon as we get the ref done, we can go crazy. | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, I've *been* doing reviews. Mostly in the neutron-lbaas and python-neutronclient stuff, though. | 20:54 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: ^^ | 20:54 |
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| sbalukoff | I will redouble my efforts on Octavia. | 20:54 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we can definitely demo in Tokyo | 20:54 |
| xgerman | #info HP is getting 500 Octavia stickers | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:55 |
| rm_work | cool | 20:55 |
| xgerman | but we need somebody who can get usb sticks we can hand out in our lab | 20:55 |
| crc32 | what flag should be present in /proc/cpuinfo? | 20:55 |
| johnsom | crc32 vmx/smx | 20:55 |
| xgerman | RAX did some for other projects... | 20:55 |
| rm_work | not sure who we talk to about that | 20:56 |
| rm_work | how many are we talking about? | 20:56 |
| crc32 | flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts | 20:56 |
| crc32 | dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase smep erms | 20:56 |
| rm_work | and how big? | 20:56 |
| xgerman | how many people can be in the lab? | 20:56 |
| xgerman | no idea but there was a linit | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I would like to be in it, eh! | 20:56 |
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| johnsom | crc32 vmx is there | 20:56 |
| rm_work | crc32: yeah they're in there | 20:56 |
| dougwig | stickers would be doubly cool if you attached them to iphones before handing them out. | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | Er... helping to run it, I mean. | 20:56 |
| blogan | ill be spectating in teh lab | 20:56 |
| rm_work | lol dougwig | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:56 |
| crc32 | ok those flags are there. | 20:57 |
| xgerman | dougwig A10 is sponsoring iPhones? | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:57 |
| blogan | id throw that sticker in the trash immediately | 20:57 |
| xgerman | because with HP you get only iPaqs or Palm | 20:57 |
| dougwig | you guys wanted to spend $1B on cloud. i'm just trying to help. | 20:57 |
| johnsom | I think we want a vm with devstack on it | 20:57 |
| dougwig | what do we need in the usb sticks? size/quantity/etc ? | 20:57 |
| crc32 | who would be managing this box? I need to get more requirments. The box I spun up is only 32GB at 10 cores. | 20:57 |
| xgerman | dougwig a few G just to put a VM with devstack on ot | 20:58 |
| crc32 | wow make that 40. Guess I over shot it. | 20:58 |
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| johnsom | I can take an AI to get an idea of storage size and see what the limit is for the hands on lab head count | 20:58 |
| rm_work | crc32: i think we're good for now with just splitting the tests into multiple jobs, we'll investigate bare-metal later if it is still necessary | 20:58 |
| xgerman | #action johnsom figure out USB stick size + headcount for lab | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet. | 20:59 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:59 | |
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| xgerman | one minute — go!! | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Someone merge this! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208763/ | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | ;) | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | That is all. | 20:59 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 21:00:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-16-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-16-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-16-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| crc32 | rm_work: Ok I'll spin the box down | 21:00 |
| bana_k | bye | 21:00 |
| xgerman | bye | 21:00 |
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| hoangcx | Hi sc68cal and all :-) | 23:59 |
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