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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 14:00:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:00 | |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:00 |
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| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:00 | |
| sgordon | hola! | 14:00 |
| aveiga | hello | 14:00 |
| cloudon | hi | 14:00 |
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| DaSchab | hi | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | #topic BGP use case | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP use case (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:01 | |
| sgordon | #info Still need a volunteer to take BGP use case as a "guinea pig" to turn into RFEs/backlog | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | (i have had a crack at the vIMS one, will get to that in a second) | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to contact Mathieu directly | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #topic vIMS usecase | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "vIMS usecase (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:03 | |
| sgordon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-telcowg/+bug/1498922 | 14:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498922 in openstack-telcowg "Tracker: Virtual IMS Core" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Stephen Gordon (sgordon) | 14:03 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224325/ | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | i took the vIMS use case and raised a Nova backlog spec for the affinity gap (N+k pools) - see the review link above | 14:03 |
| sgordon | i know cloudon had already provided a comment on there but more reviews likely welcome | 14:04 |
| cloudon | Steve, did you make a change a short time ago? Couldn't see any delta | 14:04 |
| sgordon | i removed the WIP flag | 14:05 |
| cloudon | ah, ok | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | #topic Open Reviews | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/telcowg-usecases,n,z | 14:07 |
| sgordon | i will put aside those that have had -1s forever | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | i am going to make an attermpt to contact the authors again and then potentially abandon | 14:07 |
| aveiga | sgordon: what's Monty's change for? | 14:07 |
| sgordon | aveiga, great question! | 14:07 |
| sgordon | secret infra stuff | 14:07 |
| aveiga | I figured | 14:08 |
| sgordon | Change ignore-errors to ignore_errors | 14:08 |
| sgordon | Needed for coverage 4.0 | 14:08 |
| sgordon | in .coveragerc | 14:08 |
| sgordon | which tbh i couldnt tell you what it does ;p | 14:08 |
| aveiga | would be nice if he explained t he change... | 14:08 |
| aveiga | I assume it's part of the "migrate stackforge" stuff | 14:08 |
| sgordon | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/coverage/4.0a1 | 14:08 |
| aveiga | ah! that's more useful | 14:09 |
| sgordon | i suspect it's broader than that | 14:09 |
| sgordon | and is just that every project has this rc file | 14:09 |
| sgordon | and thus has been hit with a patch if it uses the old syntax | 14:09 |
| sgordon | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:mordred%2540inaugust.com+status:open,n,z | 14:09 |
| sgordon | seems to contain a lot of them | 14:09 |
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| sgordon | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/coverage/4.0a1 | 14:10 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:mordred%2540inaugust.com+status:open,n,z | 14:10 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225904/ | 14:10 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199654/ | 14:10 |
| sgordon | i can see aveiga just +2'd that template update so that is off the list | 14:11 |
| sgordon | which leaves the outstanding review with no negative feedback.. | 14:11 |
| sgordon | #info SBC review open with no -1/-2 | 14:11 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176301/ | 14:11 |
| sgordon | it has +2 from myself and DaSchab | 14:11 |
| sgordon | so at this point can actually be approved | 14:12 |
| DaSchab | SBC is okay, but maybe needs some +1 | 14:12 |
| sgordon | yeah | 14:12 |
| sgordon | the other part is somebody has to be ready to then pick it apart and try turn into RFEs/backlog specs | 14:12 |
| aveiga | yes, I was hoping to get some internal feedback on that from my voice team before I +w it | 14:12 |
| sgordon | yeah, makes sense | 14:12 |
| sgordon | i would be happy to see some more comments on it | 14:12 |
| cloudon | yup, comments welcome | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | #info wait for some further comments on the SBC use case to confirm it is on the right path | 14:13 |
| sgordon | #topic Meeting schedule | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | so this has been an ongoing issue, but last week the *only* person there for the later meeting time slot was myself | 14:13 |
| sgordon | so at this point im looking to consolidate on this time slot each week | 14:14 |
| DaSchab | makes sense | 14:14 |
| cloudon | +1 | 14:14 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to mail list and update wiki listing early slot as the only meeting time going forward | 14:15 |
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| sgordon | one last thing that i had failed to put in the etherpad but just remembered... | 14:16 |
| sgordon | #topic productwg - Capacity/Quota Management User Stories | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | this actually came up in the product working group but thought might be relevant to some people here | 14:16 |
| sgordon | one of the user stories we have been asked to try and nail down is around capacity and quota management (there is a separate but related task around vm lifecycle management) | 14:17 |
| sgordon | just wondering if anyone here would be interested in contributing to that discussion | 14:17 |
| aveiga | that's pretty vague | 14:18 |
| sgordon | it is indeed | 14:18 |
| sgordon | hence the need to define it ;) | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-stories/draft/capacity_management.rst | 14:19 |
| sgordon | tl;dr sounds a lot like reservations | 14:19 |
| aveiga | ah | 14:19 |
| aveiga | so they're really looking for guaranteed availability of a quota? | 14:20 |
| sgordon | seems that way yeah | 14:20 |
| sgordon | i mention it here because i know this was on the original ETSI NFV gap analysis | 14:20 |
| sgordon | wondering if anyone has concrete use case info | 14:20 |
| aveiga | that's going to be extremely tricky, especially considering that some VMs may have affinity/anti-affinity hints | 14:20 |
| cloudon | seems broader than that.. for example the ref to supporting ephe#meral VMs | 14:20 |
| sgordon | aveiga, yeah - for now we're just focused on the use case, i dont debate that it's non-trivial to solve | 14:21 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:24 |
| sgordon | let's call it there for now | 14:25 |
| margaret__ | In OPNFV we have a project which is trying to also address similar resource management requests. | 14:25 |
| sgordon | i will keep reporting back to this group on the product wg stuff to see if it becomes clearer/more relevant for you | 14:25 |
| sgordon | margaret__, this isn't NFV specific, it's part of the product working group | 14:25 |
| margaret__ | I know - but just to let you know we are thinking of addressing parts of it from an NFV perspective in OPNFV | 14:26 |
| margaret__ | We get into versions of NIC, dpdk, ovs... | 14:26 |
| margaret__ | cpu pinning... | 14:26 |
| sgordon | that seems to be putting the horse ahead of the cart when there is no designed capability for reserving capacity period | 14:27 |
| sgordon | even at the basic levels | 14:27 |
| * sgordon mixes up his metaphor nicely | 14:27 | |
| margaret__ | well we can help shape the blueprint as we talk through the whole perspective.. | 14:27 |
| sgordon | yeah thats really where i am going | 14:28 |
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| sgordon | is that requirements project engaging with the openstack community (e.g. product wg) on this | 14:28 |
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| sgordon | or in a vacuum? | 14:28 |
| margaret__ | I'm not sure. I can ask our tsc on this - chris price | 14:28 |
| margaret__ | Is there going to be a Telco WG meeting in Tokyo? | 14:29 |
| margaret__ | I was suggesting to the OPNFV crowd that we should attend. | 14:29 |
| sgordon | every time i hear "we are thinking of addressing parts of it from an NFV perspective in OPNFV" what I think is "we are making up our own way of doing things irrespective of consulting the relevant community": | 14:29 |
| DaSchab | +1 | 14:30 |
| sgordon | the concern being that if e.g. the product wg comes up with requirements and circulates them in the absence of opnfv engagement then what opnfv requires wont actually be there | 14:30 |
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| sgordon | yes we have been given a 40 min slot | 14:30 |
| margaret__ | More of a set of telcom folks discussing what our real needs are - vs each company coming up with their view of needs and they are all over the place. | 14:30 |
| sgordon | i believe 2pm on the tuesday | 14:30 |
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| sgordon | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/b060647ccd40868b30ef2ab5cab76fda#.VgK3tbOf7lY | 14:31 |
| margaret__ | ok - there is a BOF slot that OPNFV took and I don't know the time - but it is Tuesday. | 14:31 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to email opnfv list highlighting that someone from the promise project probably needs to be engaged in the product wg discussion around capacity management | 14:33 |
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| margaret__ | ok I just sent email to chris on overall the different OPNFV projects need to engage with the product WG on the different topics | 14:34 |
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| sgordon | yeahhh | 14:34 |
| sgordon | i am only highlighting capacity management as that is the one i am most directly engaged with | 14:35 |
| sgordon | there are a couple of others that are likely also of interest | 14:35 |
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| sgordon | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam | 14:35 |
| margaret__ | yes I know. which is why I sent it to chris as chair. | 14:35 |
| sgordon | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d1ZKuZ6gsiG6CXXrfONBwAGGHA8SYINbYC9BSPBKllI/edit#gid=1956934401 | 14:35 |
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| sgordon | margaret__, full list is in that google doc | 14:37 |
| sgordon | there are drafts for some of them here: | 14:37 |
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| sgordon | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/master/user-stories/draft | 14:37 |
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| margaret__ | ok thanks. | 14:38 |
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| sgordon | alright | 14:39 |
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| sgordon | thanks all for your time | 14:39 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 14:39:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| cloudon | thanks | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-23-14.00.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-23-14.00.txt | 14:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-23-14.00.log.html | 14:40 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2 folks | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | It is meeting time | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 16:01:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | would you give me a show of hands if you are here? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_23.2C_2015 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements: | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | rkulkura is off today and will not be joining today | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: are you here? | 16:03 |
| yamahata | Yes. | 16:03 |
| yamahata | I don't see yamamoto, though | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | would you like to add anything to the agenda? | 16:03 |
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| yamahata | nothing from me. | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | yes, I do not see him either - I was hoping he will provide some update on the API discussion | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | PTL election is this week - be sure to vote - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015 | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: ML2 late cycle sprint | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | details are here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | I will ask manish to join us next week so that we can go over the logistics of this sprint | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Mitaka design summit topics | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | the details are here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | we have few ML2 related topics on the list | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: please feel free add as you feel fit | 16:08 |
| yamahata | Sure. | 16:09 |
| yamahata | I'm also wondering to have a meeting between ML2 and networking-odl | 16:09 |
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| yamahata | at tokyo summit | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: do you have a specific topic in mind? | 16:10 |
| yamahata | state sync. | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | right - that would be a good idea | 16:10 |
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| yamahata | Actually odl driver would have similar feature. so where should be the line between ml2 and networking-odl | 16:11 |
| yamahata | There are some overlaps there. | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | by then we would have gone through the sprint and would have a good handle on the sync | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: do you want to propose that? | 16:11 |
| yamahata | Definitively. I suppose Yalei can publish WIP code soon for review. | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | from the ML2 side, we can accomodate | 16:12 |
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| yamahata | Cool. Please accomodate the topic. | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: when he posts the patch, can you add the link to the etherpad for the sprint? | 16:13 |
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| yamahata | Hopefully late this week or next week. | 16:13 |
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| yamahata | Sure will add link. | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | Since yamamoto is not here, I am going to skip the next topic - and keep it on the agenda for next week | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | scheuran: are you here? | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran is not here as well - so, will skip the next topic as well. | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: do you want to discuss anything else? | 16:16 |
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| yamahata | no more from me. | 16:16 |
| * yamahata like short meeting | 16:17 | |
| Sukhdev | Let call it off early today - since most of the people are missing or on PTO | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - sounds good. | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | we done - lets meet next week. | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:17 |
| yamahata | bye | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 16:18:04 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-23-16.01.html | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-23-16.01.txt | 16:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-23-16.01.log.html | 16:18 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 16:59:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
| Kiall | Hey Folks, who's about? | 16:59 |
| mugsie | o/ | 16:59 |
| jmcbride | o/ | 16:59 |
| timsim | o/ | 16:59 |
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| Kiall | (Just wrapping up another meeting so semi distracted ;)) | 16:59 |
| pglbutt | o/ | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | #topic Announcements | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | So - Announcements, two from me.. | 17:00 |
| Kiall | 1) Congrats to the new PTL, mugsie :) | 17:00 |
| Kiall | (It's official now ;)) | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | congrats mugsie ! | 17:00 |
| timsim | !m mugsie | 17:00 |
| openstack | timsim: Error: "m" is not a valid command. | 17:00 |
| Kiall | He offificaly "takes over" once we open the M cycle :) | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | 2) RC1 - Unless we have any blocking issues, we're ready to cut iut | 17:01 |
| Kiall | it* | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | Any other announcements from anyone else? | 17:02 |
| mugsie | nope .. i think | 17:02 |
| Kiall | K - Moving on | 17:02 |
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| timsim | Nothing here | 17:02 |
| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:02 |
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| ekarlso | ... salut | 17:03 |
| Kiall | ehh "kiall / mugsie - get actions done done for next week!".... I'm nearly certain neither of us did :( | 17:03 |
| Kiall | (We've been having a team gathering in Dublin this last week...)( | 17:03 |
| mugsie | ehh ... I had actions? | 17:03 |
| Kiall | and second was timsim to backport 746fa57 and eb34b4d | 17:03 |
| Kiall | mugsie: from the week before.. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | ah | 17:04 |
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| timsim | Kiall: I backported one, and the other didn't need it. | 17:04 |
| Kiall | timsim: excellent! Closed :) | 17:04 |
| Kiall | #action kiall / mugsie ... actions from 2 weeks back! | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Moving on swiftly! | 17:04 |
| Kiall | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:04 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1493035 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493035 in Designate "FloaotingIP entry is not removed after VM delete" [High,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:05 |
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| timsim | I think this was one of those that was for mugsie to validate | 17:05 |
| Kiall | I think we can skip the assigned to mugsie's - near as we can tell, it's user error. Just haven't prooved it yet. | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | yeah | 17:06 |
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| timsim | Cool | 17:06 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1498432 | 17:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498432 in Designate "Duplicate code" [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
| timsim | Was this federico3 's fix for the MAX thing? | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Wishlist, no milestone (as we don't have an M milestone yet) | 17:06 |
| Kiall | timsim: code was dup'd as part of the fix | 17:07 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1498951 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498951 in Designate "Issue with Floating IPv6 " [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | that just came in | 17:07 |
| mugsie | I think it is med: no milestone | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | (i didnt know IPv6 had floating IPs in neutron now) | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | neither did i! | 17:08 |
| timsim | Alright then :) that's all | 17:08 |
| Kiall | anyway, agreed | 17:08 |
| Kiall | Cool | 17:08 |
| Kiall | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | Lots this week | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | as usualy.. take a few mins and nominate | 17:09 |
| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/473785/ | 17:09 |
| Kiall | usual* | 17:09 |
| mugsie | b153f66 Add Kilo upgrade nodes | 17:09 |
| Kiall | 21cec74 Merge "Fix unhandled exceptions in adapters parsing" | 17:09 |
| Kiall | 1594913 Merge "Ensure recordset name checking accounts for child domains" | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | 8277e96 Fix #1494799 handle limit=max on v2 and Admin APIs | 17:09 |
| mugsie | eea5c1e Fix race condition in V1 Records API | 17:09 |
| Kiall | 9c37d55 Ensure blacklists complete in a reasonable time | 17:09 |
| mugsie | 4a68605 Correct a possible DNSService connection leak | 17:10 |
| mugsie | 0c034d1 Ensure API workers > 1 starts correctly | 17:10 |
| timsim | ad180b4 Merge "Correct a possible DNSService connection leak" | 17:10 |
| mugsie | 476980e Ensure CNAME RRSets only have one record | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | 746fa57 Merge "Replace request.request_mac with request.mac" | 17:10 |
| Kiall | eb34b4d Merge "Handling Forbidden Exception" - I'm struggeling to remember what this one was.. but it's probably a candiate | 17:10 |
| timsim | Both of those two were the ones for last week | 17:11 |
| timsim | that I did. | 17:11 |
| Kiall | ah ;) I do 8 days of logs to avoid missing any ;) | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | :D | 17:11 |
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| Kiall | Okay - That everything? Let's dole em out.. federico3 - can you tackle a few of these tomorrow? | 17:11 |
| federico3 | yup | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | #action federico3 to backport b153f66 / 21cec74 / 1594913 / 8277e96 / eea5c1e | 17:13 |
| Kiall | Okay, I'll take a couple.. | 17:13 |
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| federico3 | 9c37d55 as well? | 17:13 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to backport 9c37d55 / 4a68605 / 0c034d1 (if possible) / ad180b4 | 17:13 |
| haleyb | mugsie: there is no floating IPv6 | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | haleyb: thats what I though | 17:13 |
| mugsie | thought* | 17:13 |
| Kiall | Anyone able to take the rest? | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | eh, yeah - I should have a little bit of time | 17:14 |
| Kiall | actually.. only 1 left.. 476980e | 17:14 |
| mugsie | grand | 17:14 |
| Kiall | #action mugsie to backport 476980e | 17:14 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Cool, lots of fixes this week to BP ;) | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Anything else, or shall we move on? | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:15 |
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| mlavalle | Kiall: hi | 17:16 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: hey :) | 17:16 |
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| mlavalle | the past 2 days I fixed a bug whereby the internal dns integration was slowing down the response time of GET /ports | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | the result was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226581/ | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | esentially eliminated all the overhead db accesses | 17:17 |
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| mlavalle | we made Neutron RC1 | 17:17 |
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| mlavalle | today going back to external dns integration. At this point, per our conversation on Monday. floating ips created automatically push their dns information to designate | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | both A and PTR records | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | cool. | 17:18 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: cool :) Moved to an admin creds for PTR stuff? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | is the PTR stuff behind a feature flag? | 17:19 |
| mlavalle | I will change the creation of the PTR records to admin cred between today and tomorrow. So by the end of this week, we will have full functionality for flosting ips | 17:19 |
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| mlavalle | so we will be in good position to do our demo in Tokyo | 17:20 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: awesome, can you drop me an email when you have that piece up? I'll ask some of our folks to test it :) (I'm looking at you ekarlso :D.. ) | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: will do | 17:20 |
| ekarlso | Kiall: ..... gonna throw you under the bus soon :p | 17:20 |
| mugsie | did we not want PTR creation behind an enable flag? | 17:20 |
| Kiall | ekarlso: yep | 17:20 |
| mugsie | as we need to sort out the operation with our own implementation | 17:21 |
| mugsie | i thought that was dicussed on monday | 17:21 |
| Kiall | mugsie: we found a better way.. but a feature flag is probably OK anyway | 17:21 |
| Kiall | probably a good thing anyway* | 17:21 |
| mlavalle | mugsie: I don't know what that is..... but can ping you later to talk about it | 17:21 |
| mlavalle | and that is my report for today | 17:22 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: oh, just a "enable_designate_ptr = True / False" conf option ... Some (possibly lots of) folks won't want it ;) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | cool - thanks | 17:22 |
| Kiall | Anyway - awesome mlavalle :) | 17:22 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | Okay, let's keep this thing moving ;) | 17:23 |
| Kiall | #topic Liberty Release | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 17:23 |
| Kiall | Currently nothing assigned to RC1 + Open. | 17:23 |
| Kiall | Are we happy to cut RC1? | 17:23 |
| Kiall | ... | 17:24 |
| timsim | Hell yeah | 17:24 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:24 |
| mugsie | I cant see anything else that we need | 17:24 |
| Kiall | That's what I wanted to hear ;) | 17:24 |
| Kiall | pglbutt: what about you? Yay or Nay? I think you have found more bugs recently than anyone else.. | 17:25 |
| Kiall | You haven't been holding some in reserve to file moments after we cut RC1, have you? ;) | 17:25 |
| pglbutt | umm | 17:25 |
| pglbutt | I don't have any others right now | 17:25 |
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| pglbutt | just some things I found in the client | 17:25 |
| pglbutt | so | 17:26 |
| Kiall | Cool, client can be realeased as often as we like :) | 17:26 |
| pglbutt | yay | 17:26 |
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| Kiall | Okay +A'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226673/ | 17:26 |
| Kiall | Once it lands, Mitaka is open and RC1 is cut. | 17:27 |
| Kiall | And mugsie is PTL | 17:27 |
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| timsim | Let his reign of terror begin :) | 17:27 |
| ekarlso | everyone ready for the end of the reign of terror from Kiall ? :P | 17:27 |
| mugsie | mwahahahahaha | 17:27 |
| Kiall | timsim: you have no idea what we're in for. | 17:27 |
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| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:28 | |
| Kiall | Okay, thats the end of the agenda for today :) Any other business? | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | http://giphy.com/gifs/7tKEfRjktJ2MM/html5 | 17:29 |
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| mugsie | we need topics for tokyo | 17:29 |
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| mugsie | can people think of what they want to talk about over the next few days>? | 17:30 |
| timsim | You betcha | 17:30 |
| mugsie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-design-summit-tokyo | 17:30 |
| Kiall | Yea, start an etherpad? | 17:30 |
| Kiall | heh | 17:30 |
| mugsie | any and all ideas welcome | 17:31 |
| mugsie | Kiall: we had a few slots didnt we? | 17:31 |
| Kiall | lol "#operationimpeachmugsie" | 17:31 |
| timsim | ;) | 17:31 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: Right now - I've totally forgot. I think they are still being doled out | 17:31 |
| Kiall | But - You'll find out rather than me ;) | 17:31 |
| mugsie | :) I thought we got the allocations | 17:32 |
| mugsie | cool. will look into it | 17:32 |
| mugsie | [18:32] --- | Users on #operationimpeachmugsie: | 17:32 |
| mugsie | [18:32] --- | [@mugsie] | 17:32 |
| mugsie | :( | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Okay - Anything else, or shall we all go for a Beer to celebrate Liberty RC1 and prepare ourselves for mugsie's RoT (Reign of Terror) | 17:33 |
| * timsim needs lunch | 17:33 | |
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| Kiall | Okay - Thanks all :) | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | Cya :) | 17:33 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:34 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 17:34:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-23-16.59.html | 17:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-23-16.59.txt | 17:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-23-16.59.log.html | 17:34 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:34 |
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| cp16net | hello | 18:01 |
| peterstac | hi | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 18:01:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| mvandijk | ./ | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
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| SlickNik | Hi folks. | 18:01 |
| peterstac | hi there | 18:01 |
| schang | o/ | 18:02 |
| cp16net | helo | 18:02 |
| pmalik | ./ | 18:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:02 |
| vkmc | \o) (o/ | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | meeting agenda at: | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:03 |
| ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | Around the same number of reviews as last week — still a little slow. | 18:04 |
| peterstac | I notice that the reviews are still pretty low - do we need to put back the top 10 list? ;) | 18:04 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | peterstac: hah, I thought that that was something that folks at the mid-cycle decided to take out | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | it was talked about removing it | 18:06 |
| * SlickNik still hasn't had a chance to follow up with amrith about the pulse update conversation that happened at the mid-cycle | 18:06 | |
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| peterstac | SlickNik, I agree. Maybe it's a coincidence, but they've dropped off a lot since the list disappeared - just sayin' :D | 18:07 |
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| mvandijk | how are we doing on other metrics though? it may just be that spammed +1/-1s are reduced | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | mvandijk: Changes merged in the last 7 days: 4 (0.6/day) | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | Which is also low. | 18:07 |
| cp16net | you can always peek at the stackalytics if you are curious | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | But it's hard to compare because 1. we're in RC right now and 2. Gate issues. | 18:08 |
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| peterstac | SlickNik, I'd like to maybe graph some of the metrics so we can see trends easier | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | peterstac: ++ | 18:08 |
| peterstac | if we could decide on the important ones, I'd take a stab at it for next week | 18:08 |
| peterstac | just something to think about | 18:09 |
| cp16net | i like it | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | Maybe start with something like "Total Reviews", "New changes", "Changes Merged" and "Queue Growth (New changes - Changes Merged)" for the different weeks. | 18:10 |
| cp16net | open reviews? maybe | 18:12 |
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| peterstac | Ok, I'll put something together for next week - we can always tweak it as we go | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | Open reviews to me isn't super interesting since there can be quite a few crufty patches in the system at any given time. | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | But it is another data point. | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | peterstac: ++ | 18:14 |
| cp16net | #action peterstac put together a graph for week over week | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | That would be ossum | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | Alright, let's move on to the next topic if there aren't any more comments / observations. | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | #topic Liberty RC1 release this week | 18:15 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | 4 bugs remaining | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | Some of them are already in progress. | 18:17 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: could we add https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1494584 | 18:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494584 in Trove "pxc should allow more instances than the cluster_member_count config" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Craig Vyvial (cp16net) | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | s/in progress/in the gate | 18:17 |
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| * SlickNik runs over to take a look at 149484 | 18:18 | |
| peterstac | SlickNik, when (specifically) are you targeting to cut rc1 ? | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | had a conversation with the release team yesterday, and will talk to them again tomorrow morning. | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | The plan was to cut rc1 when I talk to them tomorrow morning. | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: Yeah, that seems like something that we should target to RC1 | 18:19 |
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| SlickNik | If we come across other blocking bugs, we can cut another RC. | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | (for another week or so, if I remember correctly) | 18:20 |
| cp16net | sounds good | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | But the good thing about cutting RC1 is that it opens development for Mitaka. | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | s/But/Also | 18:21 |
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| peterstac | Well, we still shouldn't commit anything until we're sure RC1 is good to go, though, right? | 18:22 |
| cp16net | i striked out the ones on the etherpad that are done | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | peterstac: no once we cut rc1, we will have a proposed/liberty branch. | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | master then becomes mitaka. | 18:23 |
| cp16net | we can continue work but new features wont be merged until after its cut | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | So if we fine a blocking bug we will have to commit to master and then backport to proposed/liberty | 18:23 |
| peterstac | ah, so any extra bug fixes would need to be backported, right | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | yup, exactly | 18:24 |
| peterstac | got it, thx | 18:24 |
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| vkmc | when is the deadline to cut rc1? | 18:24 |
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| peterstac | vkmc ^^^ SlickNik was going to do it tomorrow morning if everything looks good | 18:25 |
| vkmc | k, thx | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | If things are still not looking good, we might be able to wait till tomorrow afternoon or so, but we should definitely do it by tomorrow. | 18:26 |
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| SlickNik | any more RC1 related questions / comments? | 18:26 |
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| SlickNik | Also the etherpad that cp16net is talking about: | 18:27 |
| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveLibertyRC1Reviews | 18:27 |
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| cp16net | some need rebase/updates | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | This one does: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213155/ | 18:29 |
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| SlickNik | vgnbkr: can you rebase when you get a moment? | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 18:30 |
| vgnbkr | I think someone (cp16net?) put a patch in that superceeded that patch, so I didn't go back to it. | 18:31 |
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| SlickNik | Strange, I only see the one patchset — I can attempt a rebase after the meeting as well. Let's discuss next steps on the channel after the meeting. | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | the channel being #openstack-trove | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | #topic Mitaka Summit Design Sessions | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | k | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-summit | 18:33 |
| vgnbkr | Sorry, I meant a different change, not patch. | 18:34 |
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| SlickNik | So for the design summit in Tokyo we've got 2 Fishbowl sessions, 4 working sessions and a collaborators meetup session on Friday. | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | cp16net set up this etherpad so that folks can propose sessions that they'd want to see happen. | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | We can go over the proposals during the next meeting. | 18:37 |
| cp16net | add your ideas and the last mid-cycle and summit sessions are linked there | 18:37 |
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| SlickNik | Just as a reminder — Fish bowl sessions are sessions in a larger room, which will be publicized so that folks from other groups and operators can come be part of the discussion. | 18:38 |
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| vkmc | wouldn't make sense to propose sessions, and then vote which ones should be in the fishbowl format? | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Working sessions are sessions in a smaller room, which aren't publicized as much, which are more conducive to conversation amongst just the contributors. | 18:39 |
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| SlickNik | vkmc: For some sessions it might. Others like sessions that are specifically asking for feedback, or cross project might make more sense as a fishbowl session. | 18:40 |
| vkmc | yeah certainly | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | So if you think your proposal makes more sense as a fishbowl session, please note it in the proposal (maybe along with a short reason as to why you think so) | 18:41 |
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| SlickNik | And we can go over it at the next meeting. | 18:42 |
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| cp16net | that sounds good | 18:42 |
| edmondk | Is there a list of topics for the working group sessions? | 18:42 |
| edmondk | because I have some smaller items to discuss that wouldn't need a fishbowl | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | edmondk: the etherpad is for proposals for both — just denote if the proposal is meant to be for a fishbowl or working session (or either) | 18:43 |
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| SlickNik | I see cp16net just added that info to the template (thanks!) | 18:43 |
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| cp16net | yup | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | I'm seeing proposals already being added to the etherpad page. Awesome! | 18:45 |
| SlickNik | Any further questions regarding this? | 18:45 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:46 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:46 |
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| peterstac | One issue I'm aware of | 18:47 |
| SlickNik | yes peterstac? | 18:48 |
| peterstac | The gate for troveclient seems to be broken | 18:48 |
| peterstac | (along with saharaclient) | 18:48 |
| cp16net | ah yes the tempest test gate | 18:48 |
| peterstac | it has to do with the LIBS_FROM_GIT change, and the fact that troveclient doesn't install the trove plugin | 18:48 |
| SlickNik | peterstac: Yes, it came up on the mailing list this morning (I think Doug Hellmann brought it up) | 18:49 |
| peterstac | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-qa/%23openstack-qa.2015-09-23.log.html#t2015-09-23T15:04:52 | 18:49 |
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| peterstac | yeah, we should probably have someone look into it ;0 | 18:49 |
| peterstac | ;) | 18:49 |
| SlickNik | Is there someone looking into it already? | 18:49 |
| peterstac | I was poking around a bit, but I'm not committed to it :) | 18:49 |
| peterstac | if someone else wants to volunteer ... | 18:50 |
| SlickNik | any takers? | 18:51 |
| cp16net | i can look into it | 18:51 |
| peterstac | It might be as simple as waiting until sahara fixes their issue and piggybacking off of it | 18:51 |
| peterstac | (our plugin mimics theirs very closely, so any change they make should work for us) | 18:51 |
| SlickNik | Yeah, it sounded like sergey was looking at it already. | 18:51 |
| peterstac | cp16net, sold! :D | 18:52 |
| cp16net | #action cp16net look into troveclient tempest gate failures | 18:52 |
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| SlickNik | Any other items for open discussion? | 18:53 |
| pmackinn | SlickNik, +1 single tenant remote.py; more patch sets coming there? | 18:53 |
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| SlickNik | pmackinn: Already updated with a new patchset. | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | pmackinn: current state at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193010/ | 18:54 |
| pmackinn | ack great | 18:56 |
| SlickNik | Anything else? | 18:56 |
| SlickNik | going once | 18:56 |
| SlickNik | going twice | 18:56 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 18:56:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-23-18.01.html | 18:57 |
| vkmc | sold! | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-23-18.01.txt | 18:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-23-18.01.log.html | 18:57 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:57 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 20:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #chair blogan, johnsom | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan johnsom xgerman | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| crc32 | Here | 20:00 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 20:00 |
| blallau | hi | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:00 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| Santoshs | Hi | 20:00 |
| xgerman | oh #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Agenda | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Octavia is the reference driver for neutron-lbaas! | 20:01 |
| minwang2 | yeah!!! | 20:01 |
| johnsom | How is that for an announcement.... | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/liberty | 20:01 |
| madhu_ak | (awesome) | 20:01 |
| xgerman | ^^^ yeah | 20:01 |
| minwang2 | love the green color | 20:01 |
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| xgerman | Mitaka design summit ether pad: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | good stuff… add any topics which you like to see discussed | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I want to congratulate the whole team. We worked together well and pulled off a huge accomplishment in taking Octavia from an empty repository to the reference driver in about a year. | 20:02 |
| xgerman | +100 | 20:02 |
| crc32 | o/= | 20:02 |
| madhu_ak | rightly said | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | yeah, thanks everybody — this is HUGE!! | 20:03 |
| xgerman | also thanks to our lt dougwig and fearless leader mesentery for support | 20:03 |
| xgerman | mestery | 20:03 |
| johnsom | +100 | 20:04 |
| minwang2 | ＋1000 | 20:04 |
| xgerman | dow we get a 10,000? | 20:04 |
| dougwig | mestery: i think he thinks you're like dysentery. | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy! | 20:04 |
| dougwig | huge huge kudos to the team. lbaasv2 + octavia. | 20:05 |
| fnaval | hh | 20:05 |
| fnaval | gg | 20:05 |
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| sbalukoff | And yes, that's friggen awesome, y'all! | 20:05 |
| crc32 | What are people leaving teams? This sounds like a retirement party. | 20:05 |
| xgerman | the namespace server retired; labs v1 retired — thank you for your service you two | 20:06 |
| xgerman | labs=lbaas | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | crc32: Eh... taking a moment to appreciate how far we've come is totally appropriate, eh. But it doesn't mean we're stopping by any stretch of the imagination. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | No, but we should celebrate the achievement. No worries crc32, I'm sure we will be handing out new work by the end of the meeting... grin | 20:06 |
| crc32 | ok. Just making sure. | 20:07 |
| crc32 | It sounded like. "Congradulations this company has come really far. But... Times are getting hard and ... | 20:07 |
| xgerman | nah, things are only tough if you are doing LBaaS v1 (not looking at a certain LB vendor) | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | On that note-- has RC1 officially been cut? Are we now open to getting other patches reviewed / merged that we know weren't going to make it into RC1? (I'm thinking mostly of the pool sharing patch that I keep on having to babysit. ;) ) | 20:08 |
| xgerman | yes mitaka is open | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:08 |
| xgerman | once a certain patch merges | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | I shall start harassing y'all for reviews forthwith! | 20:08 |
| johnsom | We are going to talk about Octavia release a bit later in the meeting | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | D'oh! | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | ok | 20:08 |
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| xgerman | yeah, today I even posted the agenda | 20:08 |
| mestery | dougwig xgerman: o_O | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | ok, Locking servers by service token” - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203880/ | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | from our friends who run their service vms in the tenants project | 20:11 |
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| xgerman | interesting argument that the boundary between tenant spaces is stronger than between vms in a service tenant | 20:12 |
| xgerman | #topic Tagging our release + packaging | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | I think we should tag a release for Octavia. | 20:13 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:14 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 20:14 |
| johnsom | We need to decide on the release number if you all agree we are ready for a release. | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | I feel like we've hit a milestone and therefore should tag it. | 20:14 |
| xgerman | well, we should release an RC | 20:14 |
| xgerman | like Neutron | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Let's call it 0.5 ? | 20:15 |
| johnsom | 0.5.0 and 1.0.0 are on the table | 20:15 |
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| dougwig | i vaguely recall mark saying that openstack services had to be based on >1.0 | 20:15 |
| pc-pothole | Im in agreement with blogans comment earlier and feel its not quite poslished enough to be a 1.0 | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | 0.5.0 corresponds with the roadmap we've had (with minor adjustments) for a very long time. | 20:15 |
| pc-pothole | o | 20:15 |
| pc-pothole | I mean were there | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Aah... so we go with 1.0 for political reasons? | 20:16 |
| johnsom | <blogan_> i guess i slightly prefer 0.5 because 1.0 just sounds more polished and feature rich to me, but its not a hard stance | 20:16 |
| pc-pothole | just a lot of rushing happened past month or so and feel like we may be a bit off in some areas | 20:16 |
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| dougwig | sbalukoff: i don't have a strong opinion. if there's no rule, 0.5 as planned is fine by me. | 20:16 |
| xgerman | well I think we would release x.x-RC1 | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | pc-pothole: So, what... 0.9? | 20:16 |
| pc-pothole | sbalukoff: perfect! | 20:16 |
| xgerman | RC1 indicating the lack of polish | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | If the release number has a lot of meaning outside this group, then I think we go with whatever makes us seem the most "legitimate" | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Since we are, in fact, legitmate. :) | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | legitimate. | 20:17 |
| xgerman | 2015 | 20:17 |
| xgerman | ? | 20:17 |
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| sbalukoff | I don't really have a strong opinion on it. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | The release number will likely end up on the vendor packages | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | but I have a lot of niggling annoyances with how I see others doing release numbers wrong. | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Like naming releases after dates. | 20:18 |
| * sbalukoff stares at xgerman | 20:18 | |
| xgerman | well there is an argument to sue the same as neutron-lbaas to indicate we are compatible | 20:18 |
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| sbalukoff | Yeah, but we're also independent. | 20:18 |
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| sbalukoff | So, I don't really like that either. XD | 20:18 |
| xgerman | ok, dougwig any advice | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Like... I don't think I've ever heard anyone using corosync and pacemaker separately... but these packages are distinct and have separate versioning. | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/226933 | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Independent is changing... | 20:19 |
| dougwig | if it were me, i'd go with 0.5 as planned. mestery, are there any requirements for us to use 1.0 or sync versions? | 20:19 |
| dougwig | once independent changes, we don't get to choose. it's synced, fyi. | 20:20 |
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| mestery | dougwig: I'm fine either way to be honest | 20:20 |
| mestery | dougwig: Right | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Are you saying that we'll be back in the same boat we were in a year ago where only Neutron core devs can approve Octavia patch merges? | 20:20 |
| mestery | dougwig: Once part of the release (in Mitaka), it will become 1.0.0 then | 20:20 |
| xgerman | no | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Because that's really, really not right. | 20:20 |
| mestery | So, 0.5 makes sense now | 20:20 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: no, still a separate core team. this is just release management. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff no | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:21 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: no | 20:21 |
| pc-pothole | ah, this sounds good then | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | So... we *are* independent. Even if we work together closely (as we probably should try to do). :) | 20:21 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: You are independant, but not release independant once the patch merges | 20:21 |
| mestery | you're part of the neutron borg from a release perspective at that point | 20:21 |
| mestery | :D | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:21 |
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| johnsom | Ok, so it sounds like 0.5 is ok. Do we need to vote, or should we just make it so? | 20:21 |
| mestery | johnsom: It is done | 20:22 |
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| mestery | ;) | 20:22 |
| mestery | I just need to know when to release it to pypi | 20:22 |
| xgerman | done + done? | 20:22 |
| dougwig | it's not an octavia meeting without a vote. | 20:22 |
| dougwig | let's vote on whether to vote. | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:22 |
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| johnsom | hahaha, ah dougwig is feeling better.... | 20:22 |
| pc-pothole | #vote you cray | 20:22 |
| xgerman | with belong gone I can use an iron fist :-) | 20:22 |
| xgerman | blogan | 20:23 |
| mestery | lol | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Ok, so let's make it so. 0.5 and cut the release! | 20:23 |
| crc32 | blowgun | 20:23 |
| pc-pothole | woot! | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Yay? | 20:23 |
| xgerman | yep - go, go, gop | 20:23 |
| dougwig | mestery: are you going to put 0.5 on pypi? what's that process? | 20:23 |
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| mestery | dougwig: yes | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | I will update launchpad | 20:23 |
| dougwig | and how do we communicate to packagers that they need this with neutron-lbaas now? | 20:23 |
| mestery | dougwig: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/sub_project_guidelines.html#sub-project-release-process | 20:23 |
| xgerman | also we probably need to branch/tag — so we can back port patches | 20:23 |
| mestery | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/sub_project_guidelines.html#sub-project-release-process | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Cool. | 20:24 |
| mestery | :) | 20:24 |
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| xgerman | sub project owner = blogan? | 20:24 |
| mestery | I did some useful things as PTL after all! | 20:24 |
| mestery | Imagine that! | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | *cough* lameduck *cough* | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | ;) | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Actually, we love you mestery. You've been good to work with, eh! | 20:25 |
| mestery | rofl | 20:25 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: I feel the same way my friend :) | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | I thought what mestery was doing included the tag/branch. No? | 20:25 |
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| mestery | Never say a little smile and some kindness doesn't go a long way, because it does. | 20:25 |
| xgerman | mestery for president!! | 20:25 |
| mestery | johnsom: Yes, I do the release itself johnsom | 20:26 |
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| sbalukoff | Well. This is awesome, folks! | 20:26 |
| xgerman | indeed | 20:27 |
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| mestery | You folks just need to say jump and 0.5 will be on pypi within an hour maybe :) | 20:27 |
| dougwig | jump | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | jump! | 20:27 |
| mestery | lol | 20:27 |
| mestery | :) | 20:27 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: this is CS. "jump!" != "jump". | 20:27 |
| xgerman | #startvote jump? jump | 20:27 |
| johnsom | jump, jump, yeah | 20:27 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: jump? Valid vote options are jump. | 20:27 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 20:27 |
| mestery | OK, I'll start doing that now and ping folks if I hit questions :) | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | #vote jump | 20:27 |
| mestery | #vote jump HA! | 20:28 |
| openstack | mestery: jump HA! is not a valid option. Valid options are jump. | 20:28 |
| dougwig | #vote please not a vote | 20:28 |
| openstack | dougwig: please not a vote is not a valid option. Valid options are jump. | 20:28 |
| mestery | :P | 20:28 |
| xgerman | #endvote | 20:28 |
| mestery | damn openstack bot | 20:28 |
| openstack | Voted on "jump?" Results are | 20:28 |
| openstack | jump (1): sbalukoff | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Cool, I will watch and do the launchpad steps. | 20:28 |
| * dougwig dies inside. | 20:28 | |
| pc-pothole | #vote how high | 20:28 |
| * mestery falls over | 20:28 | |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | Mine was the only vote that counted. | 20:28 |
| mestery | lol | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | As it should be. ;) | 20:28 |
| xgerman | well, the vote was rigged to begin with :- | 20:28 |
| xgerman | ) | 20:28 |
| mestery | lol | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Oh, you're just now catching on about that? ;) | 20:29 |
| dougwig | folks... settle down. :) | 20:29 |
| johnsom | At least no one linked Kris Kross or Van Halen youtube videos... | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! Ok... so... what's next? | 20:29 |
| mestery | hahahahhahaha | 20:29 |
| xgerman | where is rm_work when you need him? | 20:29 |
| crc32 | yea where is he? | 20:30 |
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| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:30 |
| johnsom | Next up on the agenda is either progress reports (kind of covered) or Octavia talk | 20:30 |
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| xgerman | I think mwang2 did some work on docs | 20:31 |
| minwang2 | yep | 20:31 |
| johnsom | I have been focused on the release. I have more work to do on VRRP. | 20:31 |
| bana_k | I started working on the heat | 20:31 |
| xgerman | yeah!! | 20:31 |
| minwang2 | need more review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/2 | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | So, I've compiled a lot of notes about different ways to get Octavia working in devstack for a potential lab situation. I think I like a small variation on rm_work's script best for this. I intend to document this both in tree to get people started, and potentially separately specifically for the lab session if people think we need it. | 20:31 |
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| bana_k | at the same time waiting for inputs from heat guys | 20:32 |
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| sbalukoff | Part of the reason I bring this up is because I'm not sure what we have planned for the lab. | 20:32 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff we will need it | 20:32 |
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| sbalukoff | And writing a good how-to doc here will depend somewhat on what we intend to do in the lab. | 20:32 |
| xgerman | and we haven’t planned anything yet — it’s still like 30 days | 20:32 |
| xgerman | I usually prepare talks the night before :-) | 20:32 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff I was going to start a vm image. | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Oh, good! | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | I heard something about someone distributing USB sticks with said image on it as well? Is that happening? | 20:33 |
| xgerman | well, we still need a sponsor for the usb sticks | 20:33 |
| xgerman | (see #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Agenda) | 20:33 |
| johnsom | It seems previous labs have used vmware images. I assume with player. So that is the direction I am heading | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Also, do you have any specifics on what we might want to do in the lab with that image? | 20:33 |
| xgerman | install it on people’s laptops | 20:34 |
| crc32 | I can contribute a baremetak server from a forgotten test account. | 20:34 |
| xgerman | make them create lbs | 20:34 |
| xgerman | look at logs | 20:34 |
| xgerman | troubleshoot | 20:34 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff I have got as far as "setup Octavia" | 20:34 |
| johnsom | So, we need to hammer that out. | 20:34 |
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| sbalukoff | Heh! Ok, let's touch base outside the meeting then to come up with a plan. I figure a lab is a lot like a live demo-- you want to have a backup presentation in case things go sideways as a fall back in any case. | 20:35 |
| johnsom | I'm going to put the lbaas talk up on google docs. If you want I can setup a document for the lab too | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: that would be great! | 20:35 |
| xgerman | most important for a lab is step by step instructions people can do and then we walk around and help if they bet stuck | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Ok, I'll put some links in the channel later today | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Agreed. | 20:35 |
| xgerman | yeah, I did my fair share of labs in the day ;-) | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: I appreciate it. | 20:36 |
| xgerman | ok, trevorv any progress on containers? | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Beyond that I do want to report that we've got some stuff in the works which is likely to make it onto the Mitaka development cycle. I'm working internally with teams here to refine that before we present it to y'all... but you can probably anticipate hearing about it in the next couple weeks. | 20:37 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff cool!! | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | This is mostly around heat integration and moving forward with an active-active design... and getting more people to help review existing code and work toward greater stability. | 20:38 |
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| xgerman | all good stuff!! | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Yep! | 20:38 |
| xgerman | stability - that is awesome | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | That's it for me for now. | 20:39 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Until we see code, it doesn't exist. Grin, just had to throw that back at ya | 20:39 |
| xgerman | I think we covered the Octavia talk | 20:39 |
| xgerman | so next up | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Oh yes! and I've been throwing that in the face of these IBM devs who have never done anything public OpenStack related before. | 20:39 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:39 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: You know me, I flip shit in all directions. ;) | 20:39 |
| minwang2 | the following patches need to be reviwed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/ #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/HowToRun, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215359/ | 20:39 |
| johnsom | hahaha | 20:39 |
| Santoshs | I have following query : Is L7 capability is targeted for Liberty (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148232/)? If it is targeted for Liberty corresponding changes could be done for Vendor(NetScaler) Driver. | 20:39 |
| xgerman | Santos should be M | 20:40 |
| Santoshs | Seems it is targeted for Mitaka? | 20:40 |
| Santoshs | Thanks | 20:40 |
| xgerman | yep, but early M | 20:40 |
| Santoshs | and will backport to liberty? | 20:41 |
| xgerman | not sure yet | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. Work is close to compete on that for neutron-lbaas. And it shouldn't be hard to replicate in Octavia. (If nobody else tackles that before me, I'll probably get to it once the documentation and stuff for the talk is sorted.) | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | Yes, no decision on a back-port just yet. | 20:41 |
| xgerman | I think we will decide once the code is in | 20:42 |
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| xgerman | dougwig would that be ok? | 20:42 |
| xgerman | or is their a rule we can’t back port since it will affect vendors | 20:42 |
| dougwig | i don't think it'll backport to liberty no matter what (l7, right?) i've never seen a feature backported to stable. | 20:43 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: L7, yes. | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | er... correct | 20:43 |
| xgerman | so that’s settled | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | Santoshs: I think most of the operators here are likely to go with a pre-release of the "M" version of neutron-lbaas and Octavia if they decide they need L7 badly enough. (We do!) | 20:44 |
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| Santoshs | Pre-release of M version?? | 20:45 |
| xgerman | well, master | 20:45 |
| xgerman | or M-1 | 20:45 |
| Santoshs | k | 20:45 |
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| xgerman | the packagers will cut releases at the Milstones | 20:45 |
| xgerman | so if we get it in early it will be in M1 | 20:45 |
| xgerman | M2... | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | And operators may choose to temporarily fork to get certain features. | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Right. I'm hoping to get it in early. :) | 20:46 |
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| Santoshs | It could be assumed as some L + master version | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Santoshs: Right. | 20:46 |
| Santoshs | But not L | 20:47 |
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| sbalukoff | That is almost certainly the case. | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | In any case, the code has to land first. :) | 20:47 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:47 |
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| xgerman | Lastly, sbalukoff / blallau — you said we had more EMEA based people for whom that time is to late | 20:48 |
| xgerman | any input if we need to move the meeting time | 20:48 |
| xgerman | also SantoshS | 20:48 |
| xgerman | trying to gather if there is a need | 20:49 |
| Santoshs | It would be great if it is earlier | 20:49 |
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| sbalukoff | The IBM teams I'm working with have set up an internal meeting on Thursdays at 16:00UTC. So if we were to move the meeting time, going earlier in the day would be better. | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | Though, I have not yet gotten a solid commitment to attend these IRC meetings from that team yet. | 20:49 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | So, I'm not sure what to tell you. | 20:49 |
| xgerman | ok, blallau? | 20:50 |
| Santoshs | I would like to be regular attendee if it is earlier | 20:50 |
| rm_work | sorry, worked 17 hours yesterday, just woke up <_< | 20:50 |
| xgerman | rm_work: no problem | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Don't worry, I voted for you. | 20:51 |
| rm_work | sbalukoff: glad you like my script; xgerman: sorry i couldn't link contextually relevant youtube videos earlier :P | 20:51 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:51 |
| xgerman | no worries | 20:51 |
| blallau | ok | 20:51 |
| xgerman | earlier better for you? | 20:51 |
| blallau | yes thanks | 20:52 |
| xgerman | ok, I will propose some new time to the ML | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | For my own sake: please no earlier than 16:00 UTC! | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | I am the polar opposite of a morning person. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:52 |
| rm_work | ... same | 20:53 |
| rm_work | if that weren't obvious | 20:53 |
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| xgerman | yeah, we need to find a balance + the meeting channels need to be available (need to sync with dougwig how to figure that one out) | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:54 |
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| xgerman | anything else? | 20:55 |
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| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 20:56:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-23-20.00.html | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-23-20.00.txt | 20:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-23-20.00.log.html | 20:56 |
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| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 20:56 |
| xgerman | thanks everybody | 20:56 |
| fnaval | thanks | 20:56 |
| blallau | Thanks | 20:56 |
| crc32 | so what time is the next meeting? | 20:56 |
| blallau | ;) | 20:56 |
| xgerman | I will send on the ML a proposal and then an announcement once it changes | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | crc32: Same time. though we will discuss changing meetings going forward on the ML | 20:56 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:57 |
| blallau | +1 | 20:57 |
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| madhu_ak | bye | 20:58 |
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