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| d0ugal | o/ | 14:00 |
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| shardy | o/ | 14:00 |
| trown | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | \o | 14:00 |
| regebro | \o/ | 14:00 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:00 |
| bedis | ~o~ | 14:00 |
| tzumainn | hiya | 14:00 |
| akrivoka | o/ | 14:01 |
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| dtantsur | o/ | 14:01 |
| slagle | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 14:02:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slagle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:02 |
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| derekh | yo | 14:02 |
| akrivoka | hi | 14:02 |
| slagle | hi everyone | 14:02 |
| marios | \o | 14:02 |
| dprince | hello | 14:03 |
| * dprince loves the new meeting time already | 14:03 | |
| slagle | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
| slagle | * bugs | 14:03 |
| slagle | * reviews | 14:03 |
| slagle | * Projects needing releases | 14:03 |
| slagle | * CI | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| slagle | * Specs | 14:03 |
| slagle | * one off agenda items | 14:03 |
| slagle | * open discussion | 14:03 |
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| slagle | you will notice i added a standing item for one off agenda items before open discussion | 14:04 |
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| slagle | #info add one off agenda items to the wiki before each meeting if you have them | 14:04 |
| slagle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO meeting wiki page | 14:04 |
| slagle | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:05 | |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-net-config | 14:05 |
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| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 14:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 14:05 |
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| slagle | we had a lot of untriaged bugs last week, i believe i went through and hit them all | 14:06 |
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| dprince | A general question about bugs I have is if something is added to the #tripleo trello do we also want to create LP bugs? | 14:06 |
| dprince | sometimes I just look at LP bugs when there is an issue | 14:06 |
| slagle | probably if it's a bug, then yes | 14:07 |
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| slagle | if it's added to the trello board as a task that someone is doing, then i dont feel those need bugs as well | 14:07 |
| slagle | does that make sense? | 14:08 |
| shardy | that list of bug urls needs a refresh in the wiki ;) | 14:08 |
| marios | yeah i was going to ask about removing the last two shardy | 14:08 |
| dprince | sure | 14:08 |
| derekh | ok so this was me, I tend usually to wait until I have enough info befor I open a bug, since I started using trello I havn't been creating a bug /me will do better | 14:08 |
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| slagle | shardy: is there something missing? | 14:09 |
| dprince | derekh: yeah, and I haven't started using the trello yet ;) | 14:09 |
| marios | dprince: i'd say, nice to have, since the trello boards may not have that great visibility outside tripleo (people would expect lp is what i'm saying i guess) | 14:09 |
| dprince | derekh: so I've duplicated some work... | 14:09 |
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| shardy | slagle: the new repos we recently added aren't there | 14:09 |
| derekh | dprince: your not the only one, maybe it was a stupid idea | 14:09 |
| shardy | slagle: or are they all tracked via the tripleo LP org? | 14:10 |
| dprince | derekh: not stupid, I'm willing to try it. Just not part of my daily checks with regards to project visibility yet | 14:10 |
| slagle | shardy: i dont think we have launchpad projects for those, but we should decide if we want them | 14:10 |
| shardy | slagle: aha, Ok, my mistake | 14:10 |
| d0ugal | We should probably explicitly state that in the wiki | 14:10 |
| derekh | dprince: ok | 14:10 |
| d0ugal | Use triple for all projects other than ... | 14:10 |
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| slagle | #action d0ugal to update wiki about using the tripleo project | 14:11 |
| slagle | you see how that works? :) | 14:11 |
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| slagle | if we want to add new projects too, we can | 14:11 |
| d0ugal | slagle: damn :) | 14:11 |
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| slagle | afaics, all the critical bugs are assigned and being worked on | 14:13 |
| slagle | is there any to draw attention to? | 14:14 |
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| slagle | ok, moving on | 14:14 |
| slagle | #topic reviews | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:14 | |
| slagle | #info There's a dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 14:15 |
| bnemec | That should include all of the new projects now. | 14:15 |
| slagle | i was going to point that out :) | 14:16 |
| slagle | #info bnemec updated the review dashboard for all the new projects | 14:16 |
| bnemec | I have a review up to add them to the dashboard configuration too. | 14:16 |
| bnemec | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223861/ | 14:16 |
| bnemec | in case anyone wants to generate a custom dashboard. | 14:16 |
| slagle | #info if you're using custom queries or your own searches, be sure they include all the new repos | 14:16 |
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| slagle | i also want to point out that we are in despearate need of people to review more, across the board | 14:17 |
| * dtantsur tries to review moar of tripleo stuff nowadays | 14:18 | |
| slagle | there are a couple of new specs proposed, the common library, stable branches, container support | 14:18 |
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| trown | ya lots of new code in tripleo, so lots more to review | 14:18 |
| slagle | i don't realistically see us able to push forward on any of those without a serious step up in reviews | 14:18 |
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| slagle | i don't think a "required minimum" number of reviews per day really works or is an incentive, but we should be open to whatever ideas people have on how to increase review bandwidth | 14:19 |
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| shardy | slagle: I guess improving CI stability is the main one | 14:20 |
| slagle | i guess i'll just say (hopefully without sounding too snarkish), if you have code you want to land, you better be reviewing other peoples code | 14:20 |
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| shardy | slagle: I'm sure I'm not the only one who tends to wait for passing CI before devoting review bandwidth, I know it's been a bad few weeks on that front | 14:20 |
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| shardy | is there anything collectively we can be doing to help with that? | 14:20 |
| trown | I think we are pretty close to stable CI | 14:20 |
| slagle | shardy: we shouldn't do that imo (wait for ci) | 14:21 |
| dprince | trown: don't jinx us man | 14:21 |
| trown | there will always be stuff like the puppet change today | 14:21 |
| d0ugal | lol | 14:21 |
| trown | lol | 14:21 |
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| slagle | shardy: people miss out on getting early feedback if they're cahnge sits unreviewed for a couple of days due to failing ci | 14:21 |
| shardy | slagle: it's tough though, when there's 200 pending reviews in your inbox, you're drawn to those you can most likely land (so they're not in your inbox anymore! :) | 14:21 |
| slagle | oh yea, for sure :) | 14:22 |
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| slagle | i try to look for stuff that is ready to land | 14:22 |
| slagle | but i try to balance it out too | 14:22 |
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| dprince | clearing out the way old stuff would help too here | 14:23 |
| derekh | +1 to clearing out old stuff (and bugs) | 14:23 |
| bnemec | I actually did some of that yesterday. | 14:23 |
| slagle | shardy: as far as collectively helping with CI, let's discuss about that when we get to that topic in just a bit :) want to make sure we draw attention to it | 14:23 |
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| shardy | slagle: sure :) | 14:24 |
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| shardy | Yeah, I never understood why OpenStack stopped the auto-abandon thing | 14:24 |
| regebro | I'll try to do more reviews. The moving in is all done now, I should be able to get more sleep and do more reviews. ;-) | 14:24 |
| bnemec | Because people's feelings got hurt. Apparently. | 14:24 |
| shardy | all projects are clogged with a bazillion ancient patches which is pretty distracting at times | 14:24 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 14:25 |
| slagle | well, i say we abandon. we can have our own policy | 14:25 |
| bnemec | We could resurrect the bot for TripleO. I thought some other projects had done that already. | 14:25 |
| marios | i think neutron has an 'autocull' feature where old .. yeah what slagle said | 14:25 |
| trown | I am +1 to an auto-abandon ... it is not like it is any harder to un-abandon than it will be to rebase the ancient patch anyways | 14:25 |
| dtantsur | for ironic we decided to do it manually | 14:25 |
| shardy | bnemec: Yeah, I remember arguing about it on the ML, personally I didn't find clicking "restore change" occasionally all that offensive :) | 14:25 |
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| bnemec | shardy: Nor did I. | 14:25 |
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| slagle | bnemec: would you like to lead this effort? :) | 14:26 |
| bnemec | And I continue to say that wasting core reviewer time abandoning old patches is stupid. | 14:26 |
| bnemec | slagle: Sure | 14:26 |
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| regebro | I don't know what the old rules are, but auto-abandoning if the poster doesn't respond is a good idea IMO. | 14:26 |
| derekh | lets bring it back, I forget how many people were against it when we last brough it up | 14:26 |
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| slagle | #action bnemec to look into auto-abandon policy for TripleO. | 14:26 |
| derekh | Auto abandon anything that has negative feedback and hasn't been dealt with in over 2 weeks | 14:26 |
| bnemec | I'm not arguing it on the ML again. | 14:27 |
| slagle | yea, use the list at your discrtion :) | 14:27 |
| slagle | discretion | 14:27 |
| dprince | bnemec: ++ | 14:27 |
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| bnemec | I believe it was generally agreed that projects could do it if they wanted to, but it wasn't going to be re-enabled globally. | 14:27 |
| shardy | I think a project specific policy is fine, maybe communicate it via a tripleo tagged ML message | 14:27 |
| bnemec | shardy: Agreed. | 14:27 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 14:28 |
| slagle | cool, any other review business? | 14:28 |
| slagle | #topic releases | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:28 | |
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| slagle | i did a few releases last week, but didnt get to all of them | 14:28 |
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| slagle | i'm happy to go through them again this week | 14:28 |
| slagle | #action slagle to do releases | 14:29 |
| slagle | as always, please ping folks if you need a release sooner and don't feel like waiting | 14:29 |
| slagle | #topic CI | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:29 | |
| derekh | We've been hurting hard since the move to instack based ci (some of it not unexpected I think its a completly new job) | 14:29 |
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| derekh | Over the last week, we out several outright breakages for various reasons and unreliability due to usually bad mirrors. | 14:30 |
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| derekh | We are now pinned to specific mirrors for F21, Centos and EPEL, in jenkins nodes, delorean containers and on undercloud | 14:30 |
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| derekh | This I think has helped a lot but people havn't noticed due to the breakages | 14:30 |
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| slagle | dprince: i'm curious about your thoughts about this latest puppet-nova breakage | 14:31 |
| slagle | was that revert worthy? | 14:31 |
| derekh | A fix for the most recent job breakage merged a few hours ago in t-h-t but we had to wait for a new package to hit delorean/current | 14:31 |
| dprince | slagle: I think Depends-On is the best solution for these | 14:31 |
| slagle | it seems changes like that in the puppet modules is disastrous for people using master | 14:31 |
| dprince | slagle: we could also easily pin to an older puppet-nova in our CI while we get proper review time to think about it | 14:32 |
| slagle | derekh: good update. i think the pins will help as well | 14:32 |
| slagle | derekh: are there things you can think of where people can contribute to help out CI? | 14:32 |
| derekh | slagle: I've been adding taks to the trello boards as they pop into my head If anybody has time to help out see here https://trello.com/b/dFPVlpFZ/tripleo-short-term-tasks | 14:33 |
| derekh | *tasks | 14:33 |
| slagle | #link https://trello.com/b/dFPVlpFZ/tripleo-short-term-tasks ways to help out ci | 14:33 |
| derekh | Maybe I should just change that trello board to ci-tasks or something, then others can have other boards if they want | 14:33 |
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| derekh | I've been working on these but outages have been taking priority when they happen so its been slow progress | 14:33 |
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| slagle | i like the use of the [toci] tag myself | 14:34 |
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| derekh | slagle: ack | 14:34 |
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| derekh | FYI: the jobs overcloud-f21-nonha and overcloud-f21puppet-nonha are identical | 14:35 |
| slagle | i also wanted to point i'm trying to come up with a script that will work for ci and local environments, https://review.openstack.org/225096 | 14:35 |
| slagle | so we can have some consistency there | 14:36 |
| dprince | slagle: ++ | 14:36 |
| slagle | we also have a symlink for the ci delorean repo ow | 14:36 |
| slagle | now | 14:36 |
| derekh | slagle: yup, switching over to that script is a must | 14:36 |
| slagle | #link http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7/current-tripleo/ delorean repo that toci is using | 14:36 |
| slagle | #info FYI: the jobs overcloud-f21-nonha and overcloud-f21puppet-nonha are identical | 14:37 |
| trown | we still need a mechanism to automate that link | 14:37 |
| slagle | sounds like we got a volunteer! | 14:37 |
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| trown | I can take that | 14:37 |
| slagle | :) | 14:37 |
| derekh | trown: https://trello.com/c/RXaUOfPf/14-toci-bump-delorean-repo-url | 14:37 |
| dprince | I had an idea about delorean feature, or maybe it is a new (small) project called delorean-mirror | 14:37 |
| slagle | #action trown to look into automation around updating the delorean repo symlink | 14:37 |
| dprince | essentially, it would mirror the latest current Delorean link either locally, or to another cloud for use by our CI. | 14:38 |
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| dprince | this would avoid the downtime associated w/ trunk.rdoproject.org | 14:38 |
| dprince | thoughts? worth putting effort into this | 14:39 |
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| trown | I think we should be putting effort into not having downtime w/ trunk.rdoproject.org | 14:39 |
| bnemec | +1 to mirror all the things. That's basically infra's policy on it too. | 14:39 |
| trown | but mirroring is also good | 14:39 |
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| dprince | we could probably script it such that if we bump our DELOREAN_REPO_URL in tripleo-ci we automitically refresh the repo | 14:39 |
| slagle | i'm not 100% convinced it's needed. the last downtime was painful, but other than that, how much downtime has there been? | 14:40 |
| dprince | trown: better uptime for trunk.rdoproject.org is good but the maintenance there is beyond the scope of upstream tripleo | 14:40 |
| derekh | dprince: +.5, I'm not sure the recent outages are a fair representation to what we can expect | 14:40 |
| slagle | i guess it depends on the effort | 14:40 |
| dprince | slagle: this isn't new, mirrors are always a good idea IMO | 14:40 |
| trown | dprince: ya, but upstream tripleo is relying on it, so it is a bit of a strange relationship | 14:41 |
| dprince | derekh: ^^ | 14:41 |
| dprince | derekh: lets not focus on trunk.rdoproject.org then | 14:41 |
| dprince | derekh: we just need mirrors for all the things I think | 14:41 |
| slagle | dprince: ok | 14:41 |
| slagle | i agree mirrors are a good idea | 14:41 |
| dprince | otherwise our downtime is just going to be always bad | 14:41 |
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| dprince | CI downtime | 14:41 |
| trown | ya I am +1 to mirrors in general | 14:41 |
| slagle | just depends on the effort to setup i guess | 14:41 |
| derekh | Yup, I think we could just have a "mirror" server to replace out old bandersnatch mirror | 14:42 |
| dprince | the idea w/ delorean-mirror would be that it is special, and requires a bit of extra work to mirror properly (perhaps in a lightweight fashion that is also useful to local devs) | 14:42 |
| derekh | then aim to get as much as possible on it, no need to single anything out | 14:42 |
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| slagle | #agreed mirror as much as possible | 14:43 |
| derekh | delorean-mirror -> [fedora@bandersnatch ~]$ sudo wget --no-parent -r http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7/df/03/df0377d64e1ef0b53c4e78a8ff6a50159de5131a_733f1417/ | 14:43 |
| dprince | right, nothing is single out. I for example already have local mirrors for Centos and Fedora I use | 14:43 |
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| slagle | any other ci business? | 14:44 |
| * bnemec should do that | 14:44 | |
| dprince | There was a big discussion about not "forking" delorean... i.e. running your own locally. And that is what I do. The delorean-mirror thing was an idea that might be more paletable for some as it provides the same redundency... but is just a mirror | 14:44 |
| trown | I would like to get inspection back running in CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210436/ | 14:44 |
| trown | and dependent patches | 14:44 |
| trown | we removed it to get past the outage at the end of last week | 14:45 |
| dprince | trown: I'd like introspection on for just a single job if possible | 14:45 |
| slagle | trown: +1 | 14:45 |
| trown | dprince: it takes almost no time now, and I put in line to change the timeout to 10m | 14:45 |
| dprince | trown: the extra CI time isn't strictly required for all jobs right? Perhaps combining it with another job to minimize the # of jobs too | 14:46 |
| dprince | trown: if it takes more than 5 minutes it is worth it IMO | 14:46 |
| trown | it will only take more than 5 minutes on failure | 14:46 |
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| slagle | dprince: are you ok with turning it back on in the job we have now? | 14:46 |
| slagle | and add the other job later? | 14:46 |
| dprince | slagle: yep, just thinking ahea | 14:47 |
| trown | but I am ok just putting it on the nonha job as derekh suggested | 14:47 |
| dprince | slagle: I don't think it should be required | 14:47 |
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| slagle | ok | 14:47 |
| trown | in reality, even with it turned on we are not actually using it | 14:47 |
| trown | as in we do not use the data it collects | 14:47 |
| dtantsur | it's 2 minutes for dsvm, might be slightly more for IPA | 14:47 |
| shardy | trown: the test could make some basic assertions about what's in the swift data tho? | 14:47 |
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| slagle | #info turn introspection back on in ci, setup a separate job in the future | 14:48 |
| dprince | it is actually more than we think though because if we skip it we could skip building the extra ramdisk too right? | 14:48 |
| dtantsur | nope | 14:48 |
| dtantsur | dprince, we're switching to IPA, which will be one ramdisk | 14:48 |
| trown | ya we could skip building it today...but it would not help once deploy also uses IPA | 14:49 |
| dprince | dtantsur: ah, good point. But until then it would save a bit... | 14:49 |
| slagle | #info switch to IPA will mean consolidated deploy and introspecton ramdisk | 14:49 |
| dtantsur | I hope that complete switch to IPA will happen in 1-2 weeks, not more | 14:49 |
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| dprince | dtantsur: all the more reason to switch to IP sooner then :) | 14:49 |
| d0ugal | What is IPA? | 14:49 |
| dtantsur | old deploy ramdisk is deprecated | 14:49 |
| * d0ugal is here to ask the silly questions | 14:49 | |
| dtantsur | d0ugal, ironic-python-agent, our new ramdisk | 14:49 |
| dtantsur | not beer unfortunately :) | 14:49 |
| d0ugal | dtantsur: aha, shame. | 14:50 |
| derekh | d0ugal: its a beer that does discovery | 14:50 |
| dtantsur | lol | 14:50 |
| bnemec | It's not bash. | 14:50 |
| bnemec | That's all I care about. :-) | 14:50 |
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| d0ugal | lol | 14:50 |
| d0ugal | A step closer to beer then | 14:50 |
| trown | upstream deprecated the bash ramdisk in liberty, so that is all that really matters :) | 14:51 |
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| slagle | ok, are we all good to move on to specs? (9 mins left) | 14:51 |
| slagle | #topic specs | 14:51 |
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| shardy | So I'm interested to get more feedback on the release branch spec | 14:51 |
| shardy | particularly if folks think we could implement it from Liberty | 14:51 |
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| dtantsur | I had a question on the release branches that IIRC is not covered | 14:52 |
| dtantsur | what do we do with requirements? | 14:52 |
| slagle | i think we could, but we gotta get the ci setup | 14:52 |
| shardy | e.g it'd be great to do an announcement around the liberty release pointing to "stable tripleo" install docs | 14:52 |
| slagle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221811/ stable release branch policy | 14:52 |
| slagle | shardy: i'll review your latest ps today | 14:53 |
| shardy | dtantsur: the release branches have their own requirements, so I guess we'd need to get syncs from openstack/requirements stable branch | 14:53 |
| dtantsur | shardy, then we'll have hard time backporting features | 14:53 |
| dtantsur | (and least might have) | 14:53 |
| shardy | dtantsur: That is a good point, and is probably a constraint we'll have to consider wrt features that are feasable | 14:53 |
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| bnemec | That's how all of the other projects are doing it now though, so we won't have any unique problems around that. | 14:54 |
| shardy | dtantsur: impossible requirements is probably a valid No-Backport justification | 14:54 |
| slagle | this would be good to add to the spec | 14:54 |
| dtantsur | bnemec, other porjects don't backport features... | 14:54 |
| shardy | slagle: yup, will do | 14:54 |
| bnemec | dtantsur: There's probably a reason for that. ;-) | 14:55 |
| dtantsur | I know, but we plan on backporting features, right? | 14:55 |
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| dtantsur | and we're the only project that will do it | 14:55 |
| bnemec | Why would we backport features? | 14:55 |
| slagle | #topic specs / open discussion | 14:55 |
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| trown | I think trying to backport features is really ambitious...probably too much so for liberty | 14:55 |
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| tzumainn | er, can I also ask for additional eyes on the overcloud deployment library spec? | 14:56 |
| bnemec | Especially if it puts us in an impossible situation wrt requirements. | 14:56 |
| dtantsur | bnemec, that's what is written on the spec :) please vote there | 14:56 |
| bnemec | Ah | 14:56 |
| * bnemec hasn't read that spec yet :-( | 14:56 | |
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| shardy | bnemec: the idea is that if, say, nova adds a new feature, we don't prohibit e.g backporting the t-h-t patches which add support for it | 14:56 |
| slagle | yea the reasoning is laid out in the spec | 14:56 |
| marios | tzumainn: link would be good thing to have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219754 | 14:57 |
| shardy | obviously it has to be supported in stable/liberty puppet-tripleo tho | 14:57 |
| tzumainn | whoops, thank you marios! | 14:57 |
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| shardy | we just don't block things which would otherwise work, just because they're adding functionality vs bugfixes | 14:57 |
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| shardy | the other option of course is just do a normal stable branc | 14:57 |
| shardy | branch | 14:57 |
| bnemec | That sounds like a gigantic headache and diverges from the rest of OpenStack's stable policy. | 14:57 |
| marios | #info reviews please on Mainn's library/api spec @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219754 | 14:57 |
| shardy | which might be easier, but risks making folks wait longer when we're playing catch-up with new features added to projects | 14:58 |
| trown | it also calls for much tougher reviews of feature backports, and we are not reviewing new stuff enough | 14:58 |
| shardy | bnemec, trown: feedback on the spec would be great, let's discuss it there :) | 14:58 |
| slagle | yea, i have that concern as well. | 14:58 |
| bnemec | I'll look at the review today. We should discuss this there anyway. | 14:58 |
| bnemec | +1 :-) | 14:59 |
| trown | shardy: ya I will look at the spec today | 14:59 |
| shardy | I'm quite willing to just do the normal stable thing if that's the consensus | 14:59 |
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| shardy | but I really really want *a* way to deploy stable openstack w/upstream tripleo | 14:59 |
| dtantsur | ++ for that | 14:59 |
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| trown | ya that seems required really | 14:59 |
| marios | derekh: (waiting for appropriate moment but almost out of time...) hey how do we join that board? (or the group more generally https://trello.com/tripleo/members ) | 14:59 |
| slagle | thanks for the participation today folks! | 15:00 |
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| slagle | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| derekh | marios: you have to be added, whats your trello name | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 15:00:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-09-22-14.02.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-09-22-14.02.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-09-22-14.02.log.html | 15:00 |
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| marios | derekh: lets got o tripleo | 15:00 |
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| matrohon | tmorin, pcarver , janscheurich , doude : hi | 15:01 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:01 |
| matrohon | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 15:01:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matrohon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| doude | hi | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:01 |
| janscheurich | hi | 15:02 |
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| matrohon | #topic announcement | 15:02 |
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| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:03 |
| matrohon | thanks to pcarver We now have a doc page | 15:03 |
| tmorin | +1 this help is very appreciated | 15:03 |
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| pcarver | I'm going to update the meeting page too. I've been doing some housekeeping. | 15:04 |
| tmorin | this is really good, this was lacking | 15:04 |
| pcarver | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Networking_BGPVPN_meeting to include link to meeting logs and an agenda wiki page | 15:04 |
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| matrohon | pcarver : +1 | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | yes, I guess we shouldn't put the agenda on the wiki, unless we regularly update it the IRC minutes are more useful | 15:05 |
| janscheurich | Where can I find the doc page? | 15:05 |
| pcarver | Well, we don't have to keep an agenda, but I think it would be helpful | 15:05 |
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| pcarver | janscheurich: it's linked from http://docs.openstack.org/developer | 15:06 |
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| pcarver | Under networking sub projects you'll see a new link to BGPVPN | 15:06 |
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| matrohon | pcarver : did your change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226083/ affected the pypi package? your mentioned something about package managment in your mail | 15:06 |
| janscheurich | pcarver: thanks | 15:07 |
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| pcarver | matrohon: Yes, one of the items in the sub-project creators guide was publishing to PyPI | 15:07 |
| pcarver | I'm not completely sure exactly how it works, but I followed the instructions in the manual | 15:07 |
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| pcarver | I created an entry on PyPI called networking-bgpvpn and added the Jenkins/Zuul config provided in the OpenStack guide | 15:08 |
| matrohon | this change did the work : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225694/ | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | is it documented somewhere, but I think I read that we may need Neutron main project core devs to "push the button" for us to do release | 15:09 |
| pcarver | This: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#pypi and this http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#give-openstack-permission-to-publish-releases | 15:09 |
| matrohon | pcarver : ok | 15:10 |
| pcarver | tmorin: I think you're right. One of the steps was to make openstackci the owner of the PyPI | 15:10 |
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| matrohon | any other announcement anyone? | 15:10 |
| tmorin | on bagpipe driver, yes, but this will wait for the driver-dedicated topic I guess | 15:11 |
| matrohon | let's move on | 15:11 |
| matrohon | #topic bgpvpn driver status | 15:11 |
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| matrohon | :) | 15:11 |
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| matrohon | so let's start with bagpipe | 15:12 |
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| matrohon | we merged the change that adapts the bagpipe driver to the association API | 15:13 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224154/ | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | yes, so now the bagpipe driver is useable again | 15:13 |
| matrohon | tmorin and I tested it | 15:13 |
| tmorin | it works fine with a vanilla OVS 2.4 | 15:13 |
| janscheurich | +1 | 15:14 |
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| matrohon | I also updated my script to run the bagpipe driver with tha bgpvpn API and devstack : | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | anyone wanting to play with it can try and eventually ask for help if the info in the README s is not enough | 15:14 |
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| matrohon | https://github.com/mathieu-rohon/devstack-conf/tree/master/test_bgpvpn_bagpipe | 15:15 |
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| matrohon | any update for other drivers? ODL? Contrail? | 15:16 |
| tmorin | an easy and light test consist in building two networks, with one VM on each, each network being associated to a distinct BGPVPN, and these BGPVPNs defined with the same RTs ; then you can ping between the two VMs and see MPLS packets on the wire | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | on ODL: we had a few short discussions with vishal last week | 15:17 |
| tmorin | short clarifications easily resolved | 15:17 |
| matrohon | tmorin : this is moreorless what my scripts are doing :) | 15:17 |
| tmorin | matrohon : yes :) | 15:17 |
| tmorin | the ODL change is being reviewed, I did not check the status recently | 15:17 |
| janscheurich | I don't have an update either | 15:18 |
| tmorin | note that the ODL change essentially has the API and internals code, but not the quagga glue for the backend | 15:18 |
| matrohon | tmorin : do you mean vthapar instead of vishal? | 15:18 |
| matrohon | or vthapar is the irc name of vishar? | 15:19 |
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| janscheurich | matrohon: yes | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: yes, same person | 15:20 |
| matrohon | doude : any update for the opencontrail driver? | 15:20 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202806/ | 15:21 |
| doude | matrohon: no nothing musch too add. I did not work a lot on it last week | 15:21 |
| matrohon | doude : do you think it is testable? what is missing? | 15:22 |
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| doude | matrohon: that review contains a PoC version that use a generic key/value store to store the bgpvpn resource | 15:24 |
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| doude | it works but it's not efficient | 15:24 |
| matrohon | doude : ok | 15:24 |
| doude | I'm working to add the resource into the contrail data model | 15:24 |
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| tmorin | do you want to do wait for that being done before merging ? | 15:25 |
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| tmorin | or do we want something that will work even with version of contrail not supporting the datamodel extension mirroring the BGPVPN and BGPVPN associations ? | 15:26 |
| tmorin | we /might/ even want a driver that would support both... | 15:26 |
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| matrohon | doude : ^ | 15:27 |
| matrohon | tmorin, doude : personnaly, I'm not sure we should wait for a bgpvpn object in the contrail API | 15:28 |
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| tmorin | matrohon, doude: +1 | 15:28 |
| doude | I prefer to wait to implement the bgpvpn resource onto contrail side | 15:28 |
| matrohon | tmorin, doude : I would go for a first release of bgpvpn with a OC driver that manages bgpvpns with key/value pair | 15:29 |
| tmorin | doude: I think it would be nice to merge that and later extend the driver to use the specific datamodel extension if supported by the contrail API | 15:29 |
| doude | no I prefer to wait | 15:29 |
| tmorin | doude: when would the new datamodel appear, in which contrail release ? | 15:29 |
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| doude | no because we will support that PoC version which is very unefficient | 15:29 |
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| doude | tmorin: I'll propose that on master | 15:30 |
| doude | so the release after the merge | 15:30 |
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| tmorin | doude: which is ? (roughly ?) | 15:30 |
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| doude | I don't know. Contrail does not have a precise release roadmap | 15:31 |
| tmorin | tmorin: it's true that supporting both transparently is complex (unless you migrate data from the k/v store to the new model, you have to read in both, which is not nice at all) | 15:31 |
| tmorin | doude: ok | 15:31 |
| matrohon | we can still deprecate the first version, and mention its caveats and drawback in the README | 15:32 |
| tmorin | doude: while I would rule out doing and supporting a driver that would be able to do both, I think we may publish an experimental driver using the K/v store, explicitly marked as soon-to-be-obsoleted | 15:32 |
| tmorin | matrohon: +1 yes, exactly | 15:32 |
| doude | if you want | 15:33 |
| tmorin | making it explict that it won't be supported and that no means will be provided to migrate to the new mechanism | 15:33 |
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| matrohon | #agreed : we'll have a first release of the contrail driver based on Key/value pair | 15:35 |
| matrohon | let's move forward | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | by the way, it would be nice to augment the doc with a brief status of each driver and proper pointers to the doc of each driver | 15:36 |
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| tmorin | currently the different READMEs are not in the best places | 15:36 |
| matrohon | tmorin, janscheurich can you provide us a status of the static route discussion | 15:36 |
| tmorin | README-bagpipe.rst is at the root, should probably be under doc | 15:36 |
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| matrohon | tmorin : +1 | 15:36 |
| tmorin | Contrail's is in the source in the directory for the driver, should probably be under doc as well | 15:36 |
| tmorin | anyone willing to sort this out is welcome | 15:37 |
| tmorin | we also need to move the spec definition under the doc directory as well | 15:37 |
| tmorin | even if we keep the current gerrit change open as a useful place for discussion | 15:37 |
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| matrohon | janscheurich, tmorin : static-routes? | 15:39 |
| janscheurich | matrohon: sure | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | janscheurich: go ahead if you want | 15:40 |
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| janscheurich | Discussion between tmorin and myself homing in on alternative to add static routes to the port association | 15:40 |
| matrohon | #topic static routes | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | yes, we converge on the idea that it is a clean approach to define a static route | 15:41 |
| janscheurich | coupling the blueprints for port association and static routes | 15:41 |
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| tmorin | a static route for prefix a.b.c.d/f in BGPVPN Z with Port X as the nexthop, would be defined as an attribute of an association of Port X with BGPVPN Z | 15:41 |
| tmorin | that will require to define Port associations slightly differently to how Network associations currently are defind | 15:42 |
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| janscheurich | appears to be the simplest and most flexible alternative, not overloading any exiting Neutron feature | 15:42 |
| tmorin | Network associations do not have their own uuid, and can't have their own attributes | 15:42 |
| janscheurich | Can you remind me why not? | 15:43 |
| tmorin | Port associations will need to have a uuid and be defined as "full" sub-resources of a BGPVPN resource | 15:43 |
| matrohon | janscheurich, theres is no network-association object | 15:43 |
| tmorin | janscheurish: not created with a POST, but just with action on another resource | 15:43 |
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| matrohon | janscheurich, only a associate-network verb/action | 15:44 |
| janscheurich | yes, but there is a dedicated table for network association objects anyhow, or? | 15:44 |
| matrohon | so for port-association we would nedd an object? | 15:44 |
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| matrohon | janscheurich, yep and so it would not be so hard to have a dedicated object, I agree... | 15:45 |
| tmorin | we also discussed and converged on the idea that for Router association, we should have a flag to say that extra_routes of the Router should be advertized in the BGPVPN, and that this would be better done as an attribute of the Router association | 15:45 |
| tmorin | leading us to think that we should change the spec and make a Router association a sub resource of a BGPVPN (POST, its own uuid, etc.) | 15:46 |
| matrohon | humm, so we need a port-association object, a router association object... | 15:46 |
| tmorin | matrohon: yes | 15:46 |
| matrohon | we should move to a network association object to be consistent... | 15:46 |
| janscheurich | if we can avoid to have a dedicated object for port/router association, I would be in favor of that. I still don't fully understand why its necessary | 15:46 |
| tmorin | matrohon: this is also my thinking | 15:46 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: we are early enough to do this change, will be much harder later when/if we discover we want an attribute on a Network association | 15:47 |
| matrohon | janscheurich, it's usefull to manage attribute of those association exposed by the API | 15:47 |
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| matrohon | tmorin, +1 | 15:47 |
| tmorin | janscheurich: this is strongly related to the tool available inside Neutron to model API objects, we can't "cleanly" update attributes of an object which does not have its own uuid | 15:48 |
| janscheurich | Using UPDATE methods? | 15:48 |
| tmorin | janscheurich: yes (well PUT, that is) | 15:49 |
| janscheurich | tmorin: ok | 15:49 |
| matrohon | janscheurich, UPDATE methods are already used for those actions | 15:49 |
| tmorin | janscheurich: and to do that we need to expose the resource as a sub resource | 15:49 |
| tmorin | matrohon: yes, but this is an update of a BGPVPN resource, Neutron internals know nothing about association objects | 15:50 |
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| matrohon | having sub-resource is much more flexible. As we can see, we easily find some use cases were attributes for associations are useful | 15:50 |
| matrohon | so we will have CRUD operation for associations... | 15:52 |
| matrohon | let's think about it for a week, and see if there is no caveat about this wrokflow | 15:52 |
| tmorin | the good news is that we can change that without having to change the drivers | 15:52 |
| tmorin | matrohon: agreed | 15:52 |
| matrohon | tmorin +1 | 15:53 |
| matrohon | even the db, has it already exist | 15:53 |
| janscheurich | The change would not impact the drivers? | 15:53 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: we'll need the association uuids in the db I think | 15:54 |
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| tmorin | #agreed: make all association sub-resources of a BGPVPN resource with their own UUID (sleep on it for a week then act) | 15:54 |
| matrohon | janscheurich, not so much, we will propably just update the netassociate_postcommit with the bgpvpn entire object in place of its id | 15:54 |
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| matrohon | janscheurich, not so sure... we will probably have associationupdate/del/add_postcommit methods | 15:56 |
| janscheurich | matrohon: I was afraid of that.... | 15:56 |
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| tmorin | let's think about it, we can easily "transparently" map add/del to the current associate/disassociate | 15:57 |
| matrohon | janscheurich, I'm not sure it is useful for the netassociation since it doesn't have any attribute so far | 15:57 |
| tmorin | update is different, but until we have an actual driver implementing an association that has an attribute that can be updated, we don't have any migration to support | 15:58 |
| matrohon | I'll work on that this week, and hope to ahave a patch up for review before next meeting | 15:58 |
| tmorin | nothing unmanageable I think | 15:58 |
| janscheurich | sounds good! | 15:58 |
| tmorin | matrohon: good :) | 15:58 |
| matrohon | 2 min left | 15:58 |
| matrohon | #topic open discussions | 15:58 |
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| matrohon | anyone? | 15:59 |
| tmorin | one thing to mention: OPNFV | 15:59 |
| tmorin | Tim (and others) have kicked off an SDNVPN project inside OPNFV, that can be seen as the OPNFV counterpart of what we do here | 15:59 |
| tmorin | everyone encouraged to have a look of what happens there | 16:00 |
| matrohon | tmorin : great | 16:00 |
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| tmorin | #link http://meetbot.opnfv.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2015/opnfv-meeting.2015-09-01-13.59.html | 16:00 |
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| matrohon | we''re out of time | 16:00 |
| matrohon | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| janscheurich | I'm trying to keep in sync with Tim here | 16:00 |
| matrohon | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 16:00:37 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-09-22-15.01.html | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-09-22-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| janscheurich | Bye | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-09-22-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| tmorin | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| tmorin | bye! | 16:00 |
| matrohon | bye | 16:00 |
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| sergmelikyan | Hi folks, welcome to our weekly meeting :) | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:00 |
| freerunner | Start it =) | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 17:00:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| katyafervent | 0/ | 17:00 |
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| freerunner | Hi folks! ;) | 17:00 |
| tlashchova | o/ | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | \o | 17:01 |
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| _ddovbii | Hi! | 17:03 |
| sergmelikyan | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda <- our agenda for today | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | First of all, I would like to apologize for missing deadline for sending my candidacy as PTL for the next cycle :( | 17:04 |
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| sergmelikyan | Sorry guys, I miscalculated timezones :( | 17:05 |
| sergmelikyan | According to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst now it's up to TC to assign PTL for Murano | 17:05 |
| sergmelikyan | but I hope that I will be assigned given that I sent e-mail, but was not able to send commit with my candidacy to Gerrit | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | It's going to be decided tonight in 3 hours on the TC meeting | 17:07 |
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| katyafervent | don't worry, you'll be selected :) | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | next topic that I would like to discuss is readiness to the Liberty RC1 | 17:08 |
| sergmelikyan | katyafervent: thx for support :) | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | according to the https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/liberty-rc1 we have only 1 high bug left | 17:09 |
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| sergmelikyan | StanLagun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1476687 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476687 in murano "murano-agent hangs after processing the first request on RHEL6-based distro" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:11 |
| sergmelikyan | it's assigned to you, any ETA? | 17:11 |
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| StanLagun | sergmelikyan, haven't had a change to debug it yet | 17:11 |
| sergmelikyan | we need to finish it before end of tomorrow :( | 17:12 |
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| sergmelikyan | StanLagun: how we can help you with this task? | 17:13 |
| katyafervent | we also have couple of high bugs in murano-apps | 17:13 |
| StanLagun | someone need to try run agent on RHEL and see if it hangs. And if it does you need to debug it | 17:13 |
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| StanLagun | and don't know how it can be distributed between several developers | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | so essentially no... | 17:14 |
| StanLagun | I even don't know if it really hangs | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so we're going to release tommorrow, right? | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | StanLagun: please take a look at this ASAP - according to the bug description it prevents using agent on any rhel6 based OS which many people do | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: thursday | 17:15 |
| StanLagun | And if it is it may take a long time to discover why because it will mean something wrong with kombu/eventlet | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I see | 17:16 |
| StanLagun | sergmelikyan, is it of a higher priority than k8s? | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | StanLagun: I would say yes for the next week | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | *for this and the next week | 17:16 |
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| katyafervent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano-apps/+bug/1490586 | 17:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1490586 in murano-apps mitaka "unable to deploy Rally application" [High,In progress] | 17:18 |
| katyafervent | bug in murano-apps. regarding comments from assigner it will not be fixed in liberty :( | 17:18 |
| katyafervent | but we need to track it to backport later | 17:19 |
| sergmelikyan | #action StanLagun is going to switch working to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1476687 | 17:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476687 in murano "murano-agent hangs after processing the first request on RHEL6-based distro" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:19 |
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| sergmelikyan | katyafervent: any individual bug in individual applications is not going to prevent releasing murano-apps, though we need to have this in release nots | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | https://launchpad.net/murano-apps/+milestone/liberty-rc1 - we have 5 bugs here | 17:21 |
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| sergmelikyan | I propose to go through them and see what we can safely move to the next milestone | 17:22 |
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| katyafervent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano-apps/+bug/1466068 | 17:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466068 in murano-apps "Deployment failed, but the status is 'Ready'" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dmytro Dovbii (ddovbii) | 17:22 |
| katyafervent | This one is important, Dmitro will try to fix it together with Stan | 17:23 |
| sergmelikyan | _ddovbii: ^ | 17:23 |
| sergmelikyan | ? | 17:23 |
| sergmelikyan | How it is going with this bug? | 17:23 |
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| _ddovbii | I've already tried to investigate it, but looks like I dont have any ideas. Maybe I need Stan's help | 17:24 |
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| katyafervent | So we hoped this bug will be fixed in rc1, please let us know if you need help | 17:25 |
| katyafervent | Another bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano-apps/+bug/1495548 | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495548 in murano-apps "Update UI definitions to the latest supported version" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ekaterina Chernova (efedorova) | 17:25 |
| _ddovbii | will try to fix it before tomorrow evening | 17:25 |
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| sergmelikyan | StanLagun: ^ can you also get together with _ddovbii? | 17:26 |
| StanLagun | sure | 17:26 |
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| katyafervent | ok, so regarding application update - the patch is waiting for a review | 17:27 |
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| sergmelikyan | katyafervent: link? | 17:27 |
| katyafervent | 1495548 5 messages above | 17:28 |
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| katyafervent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223555/ | 17:29 |
| katyafervent | here is a patch | 17:29 |
| sergmelikyan | katyafervent: I see two open questions in this patch | 17:30 |
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| sergmelikyan | katyafervent: can you address them? | 17:30 |
| katyafervent | where? | 17:30 |
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| sergmelikyan | in this patch | 17:31 |
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| katyafervent | I answered xiangxinyongin the bug like he asked | 17:31 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm ok with releasing 2.2 in s/liberty FYI | 17:32 |
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| katyafervent | StanLagun, should change his opinion after we discussed app versioning | 17:32 |
| katyafervent | So anybody welcome to review | 17:32 |
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| sergmelikyan | I am +1 for that | 17:34 |
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| katyafervent | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano-apps/+bug/1491383 | 17:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491383 in murano-apps "Deployment of few ADs in one env in some configuration fails with error" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alexey Khivin (akhivin) | 17:36 |
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| katyafervent | StanLagun, can you comment on that? | 17:36 |
| katyafervent | is it high at all? | 17:36 |
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| StanLagun | why do you ask me? | 17:38 |
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| katyafervent | I'm asking your opinion | 17:39 |
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| StanLagun | Probably it is high if AD is important for us | 17:40 |
| StanLagun | But know nothing about why it happens | 17:40 |
| sergmelikyan | I would say that it's more Medium | 17:40 |
| katyafervent | ok, so we hoped akhivin is working on it | 17:41 |
| katyafervent | Thats all for murano-apps bugs | 17:41 |
| sergmelikyan | thx... we don't have critical bugs preventing release of RC, but it would be nice to not have high bugs too :) | 17:43 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:44 |
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| enthurohini | hello sergmelikyan, katyafervent and kzaitsev_mb: as you provided me the blueprints, i am interested in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/tag-murano-heat-stacks and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-muranoclient/+spec/openstack-client-plugin-support | 17:45 |
| enthurohini | I have some doubts so should i clear them here? | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | sure, and we can discuss it anytime in #murano too | 17:47 |
| enthurohini | sergmelkiyan, Thanks for the freedom. Can you provide mentor for this both BP? | 17:48 |
| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: what kind of mentorship do you want? =) | 17:49 |
| katyafervent | I can help you | 17:49 |
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| katyafervent | You can send messages directly to me ^) | 17:49 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we're usually pretty open and you can easily find katyafervent or me or someone else in #murano =) | 17:50 |
| enthurohini | kzitsev_mb, as i am new to this, i will need guidance of mentor who will guide me in right direction | 17:50 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok katyafervent volunteered, so feel free to ping her =P | 17:50 |
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| enthurohini | katyafervet thanks | 17:51 |
| katyafervent | welcome | 17:52 |
| enthurohini | katyafervent, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/tag-murano-heat-stacks in this bp it is mentioned that some tags will be hidde bydefault. so there will be a list of tags in advance? | 17:52 |
| enthurohini | _hiiden | 17:52 |
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| enthurohini | or operator will provide tags to stacks? | 17:53 |
| katyafervent | no, stacks should not be hidden | 17:53 |
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| enthurohini | then? | 17:53 |
| katyafervent | you will mark stacks created by murano with tags | 17:54 |
| enthurohini | katyafervent, see when stack will generate, it will not have any tag. right? | 17:54 |
| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: stack-tagging was added in L | 17:55 |
| katyafervent | it should be regarding to the parameter of config | 17:55 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so currently we do not tag heat stack | 17:55 |
| kzaitsev_mb | created during deployment | 17:55 |
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| katyafervent | that what this blueprint should do | 17:55 |
| katyafervent | How this tags will be used is out of scope of this BP | 17:56 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | yep, if cloud operator decides to hide some tags — that's up to him | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | moreover, that's not connected to murano anyway | 17:56 |
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| enthurohini | First clear me, tagging will be done on what heat created stacks or murano ceated? | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it would be a heat setting | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | murano creates heat stacks. murano should tag them during creation. does that answer your question? | 17:57 |
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| enthurohini | tagging will be done according to config parameter? | 17:59 |
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| enthurohini | kzaitsev_mb, yes. | 17:59 |
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| sergmelikyan | folks, let's continue in #murano | 18:00 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 18:00:04 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-09-22-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-09-22-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-09-22-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| sergmelikyan | thank you for participation, folks | 18:00 |
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| enthurohini | sergmelikyan, ok | 18:01 |
| sputnik13 | #startmeeting cue | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 18:01:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sputnik13. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cue' | 18:01 |
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| sputnik13 | role call | 18:02 |
| sputnik13 | o/ | 18:02 |
| dkalleg | o/ | 18:02 |
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| abitha | o/ | 18:02 |
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| vipul | o/ | 18:02 |
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| vipul | s/role/roll | 18:02 |
| vipul | ;) | 18:02 |
| sputnik13 | pfff, nitpicker :-P | 18:02 |
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| sputnik13 | where's esmute | 18:03 |
| davideagnello | o/ | 18:03 |
| sputnik13 | ok, action items | 18:04 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Action Items | 18:04 |
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| sputnik13 | #note AI #1 davideag_ to continue developing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/multi-broker-support | 18:04 |
| sputnik13 | see no update on the BP since the last meeting, is there a goal for what we want to have done in the BP prior to the summit? | 18:05 |
| davideagnello | yes, not much progress on this since last week. I have started breaking down the different areas that require more background information. | 18:05 |
| davideagnello | sputnik13: we want a design proposal for the summit | 18:06 |
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| vipul | Yea we should nail this down by the summit and present there | 18:06 |
| sputnik13 | ok, thinking it would be good to have concrete things we need decisions or discussions on at the summit rather than it being open ended | 18:06 |
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| sputnik13 | ok, so given that we have about a month to nail things down | 18:06 |
| davideagnello | sputnik13: that's right | 18:06 |
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| davideagnello | will put aside more time near the end of this week | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | saying just so we keep it in perspective :) | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | ok, sounds good | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | #action davideag_ to continue developing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/multi-broker-support | 18:07 |
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| sputnik13 | next action... | 18:07 |
| esmute | o/ | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | #note AI #2 sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | welcome esmute :) | 18:08 |
| esmute | Sorry for the tardiness :( | 18:08 |
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| sputnik13 | no work on the kafka front once again... kicking that can down the road... I also need to step that up since it will probably provide useful information for the multi broker support | 18:08 |
| sputnik13 | #action sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka | 18:08 |
| davideagnello | sputnik13: yes, will be asking you very shortly :) | 18:09 |
| sputnik13 | esmute no worries, don't do it again!! ;) | 18:09 |
| sputnik13 | #note AI #3 vipul sputnik13 to file cross-project summit discussion on service VMs | 18:09 |
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| sputnik13 | vipul you already did this yes? | 18:09 |
| vipul | one sec.. have an update | 18:10 |
| esmute | its sad we didnt get the talk accepted.. otherwise, we would have more urgency in getting this done | 18:10 |
| vipul | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203880/ | 18:10 |
| sputnik13 | esmute: yes, so sad... especially given how much free time we have ;) | 18:10 |
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| vipul | so Bruno submitted a nova-spec about this | 18:10 |
| sputnik13 | who is bruno | 18:11 |
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| vipul | catalyst | 18:11 |
| sputnik13 | oh that bruno | 18:11 |
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| sputnik13 | the one we met | 18:11 |
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| sputnik13 | ? | 18:11 |
| vipul | yes.. | 18:11 |
| vipul | added a bunch of people as reviewers | 18:12 |
| sputnik13 | cool | 18:12 |
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| vipul | so we need to follow this one istead of filing yet another session | 18:12 |
| sputnik13 | we just need a room for the discussion then, is that something we need to push or is there someone organizing things like these? | 18:12 |
| vipul | this will probably be a nova session | 18:12 |
| sputnik13 | ok, makes more sense anyway since they're the ones that need to get it done right | 18:13 |
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| esmute | vi oscon | 18:14 |
| sputnik13 | next action... | 18:14 |
| esmute | oops | 18:14 |
| sputnik13 | esmute: wrong window :-P | 18:14 |
| vipul | opening oscon? | 18:15 |
| vipul | nice.. i need to have files like that | 18:15 |
| sputnik13 | #note AI #4 dkalleg to provide details in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status regarding more accurate rabbitmq status check | 18:15 |
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| esmute | yeah.. we need to change the host... Its been too long in portland :p | 18:15 |
| dkalleg | I still need to do some research here. Will work on prioritizing this. | 18:15 |
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| sputnik13 | ok | 18:16 |
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| sputnik13 | I think we're pushing that out post 1.0, is that correct vipul ? | 18:16 |
| sputnik13 | we were targeting a 1.0 release for Mitaka iirc | 18:17 |
| vipul | We shoudl prioritize it for M.. won't get into L | 18:17 |
| vipul | too late for L | 18:17 |
| sputnik13 | isn't L out? | 18:17 |
| vipul | nope | 18:17 |
| vipul | Liberty 3 is | 18:17 |
| vipul | liberty final should happen next month | 18:17 |
| sputnik13 | is there a L4? | 18:17 |
| sputnik13 | ok | 18:17 |
| sputnik13 | so we're trying to get a 1.0 for L4 | 18:18 |
| vipul | Yea probably won't make it into that then | 18:18 |
| sputnik13 | but ongoing status should be post 1.0 | 18:18 |
| vipul | We should do a release.. and call that 1.0 since it's production ready.. | 18:18 |
| vipul | and it's unlikely that we can get more things in at this point | 18:19 |
| sputnik13 | so... I think the point is the priority for ongoing status is lower than we thought it was last week | 18:19 |
| vipul | Yea .. should figure out how we want to solve it though.. | 18:19 |
| sputnik13 | agreed, but priority is still less | 18:20 |
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| sputnik13 | so... no need to rush it this month | 18:20 |
| vipul | that's fine | 18:21 |
| sputnik13 | ok, that's it for past actions | 18:21 |
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| sputnik13 | #action dkalleg to provide details in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/status regarding more accurate rabbitmq status check | 18:21 |
| sputnik13 | any discussion topics? | 18:22 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Open Discussion | 18:22 |
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| davideagnello | security groups for broker VM ports | 18:22 |
| sputnik13 | link? | 18:23 |
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| davideagnello | new BP #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/broker-security-groups | 18:23 |
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| sputnik13 | makes sense to me | 18:24 |
| davideagnello | post beta feature? | 18:24 |
| sputnik13 | post 1.0 | 18:24 |
| sputnik13 | what beta | 18:24 |
| sputnik13 | :) | 18:24 |
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| sputnik13 | technically we're supposed to approve a BP aren't we | 18:25 |
| sputnik13 | does this BP need more or is it good to approve? | 18:26 |
| vipul | I think this is straight forward.. we can target for M | 18:26 |
| sputnik13 | it's not an API change, it's a backend change, so just code and configuration | 18:26 |
| davideagnello | whoops, yes post 1.0 | 18:26 |
| sputnik13 | cool | 18:26 |
| sputnik13 | I mean, agreed, target M | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | we need to define series so we can target things to series | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | #action sputnik13 or vipul to define series in launchpad | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | #note https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/broker-security-groups approved for M series | 18:28 |
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| sputnik13 | anything else on this? other topics? | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | if there's nothing else we should move on to bugs | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | the silence is deafening | 18:29 |
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| davideagnello | post 1.0 are we looking to target additional broker support first? | 18:29 |
| sputnik13 | yes, post 1.0, but I think we need a fleshed out design before we can say what release we would target | 18:30 |
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| sputnik13 | so "post 1.0" could be 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, x.x | 18:30 |
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| sputnik13 | hello? | 18:32 |
| sputnik13 | is this thing on? | 18:32 |
| davideagnello | ok | 18:32 |
| dkalleg | o/ | 18:32 |
| vipul | nothing else from me | 18:32 |
| sputnik13 | ok, bugs | 18:32 |
| davideagnello | yes | 18:32 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Bugs | 18:33 |
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| sputnik13 | no new bugs since last week | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | #note No new bugs | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | 2 open bugs | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1466609 | 18:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466609 in Cue "user supplied network is not validated before attaching" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Min Pae (sputnik13) | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | fix has been submitted, just needs unit tests before it's ready to review | 18:34 |
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| sputnik13 | still in progress, will be done asap | 18:35 |
| sputnik13 | oops | 18:35 |
| sputnik13 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1466609 | 18:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466609 in Cue "user supplied network is not validated before attaching" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Min Pae (sputnik13) | 18:35 |
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| sputnik13 | ok, next open bug | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | ? | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1426103 | 18:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1426103 in Cue "Validate UUID API parameter's at API layer instead of DB interface" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Abitha Palaniappan (abitha-palaniappan) | 18:36 |
| abitha | havent started on it yet. | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | ok | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | would be great if we can get it in to 1.0, but not high priority | 18:37 |
| abitha | ok will start on it soon | 18:37 |
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| sputnik13 | cool | 18:37 |
| sputnik13 | that's it for bugs | 18:38 |
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| sputnik13 | should we call it? | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | end it early for a change? :) | 18:38 |
| vipul | yep i'm good | 18:38 |
| dkalleg | ha | 18:38 |
| dkalleg | Nothing more from me. | 18:39 |
| sputnik13 | k, meeting adjourned | 18:39 |
| sputnik13 | #endmeeting | 18:39 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-09-22-18.01.html | 18:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-09-22-18.01.txt | 18:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-09-22-18.01.log.html | 18:39 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 21:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 21:00 |
| james_li | james li | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| muralia | o/ | 21:00 |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | our agenda for today: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-09-22_2100_UTC | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | hi james_li, muralia, datsun180b | 21:00 |
| james_li | Hi devkulkarni | 21:01 |
| muralia | hey | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi adrian_otto | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | good to see you all :) | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:01 | |
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| devkulkarni | I don't have any prepared announcement | 21:01 |
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| devkulkarni | Anyone from the team would like to has anything to share? | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | I will be working to transition PTL duties to Devdatta for the M release cycle. | 21:02 |
| muralia | nice | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | I asked him to chair this meeting as part of that effort. He has already been setting the agendas, so this makes sense to start now. | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: I will reach out to you to understand what all things need to be addressed | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: cool | 21:03 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: the setup that we have in place is great | 21:03 |
| devkulkarni | I will mostly follow the template that we have | 21:03 |
| devkulkarni | ok, moving on to the next topic | 21:04 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Items | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:04 | |
| devkulkarni | we did not have any action items from last time (or a few meetings before that) | 21:04 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:04 | |
| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni): Porting trigger resource to apps | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | so an update on this.. | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | I have now started porting/migrating our trigger functionality to apps | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | looking for reviews on: | 21:05 |
| james_li | that makes sense | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224918/ | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226081/1 | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | first one is the api patch (actually a series of patches) | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | second one is the cli patch | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | whenever you get a chance, please take a look at both | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | if possible, I am looking to getting these merged in next couple of days | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | what is this? | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224918/3/functionaltests/api/common/__init__.py | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | oh | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | I removed it | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | in the following patch | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | check patch set 3 | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | oh may be not | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | that is in patchset 3 | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | I will remove it | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | it got created by Pycharm | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | sorry, I have to leave early (call from school nurse's office. I have to take one of my children home) | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good adrian_otto | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | will see you later | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | the second one for review/discussion is this: | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni): Moving logs resource from assembly to workflow | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1498147 | 21:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498147 in Solum "add-logs-to-workflow-resource" [High,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla) | 21:09 |
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| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1498181 | 21:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498181 in python-solumclient "connect-app-logs-to-use-workflow-instead-of-assembly" [High,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla) | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b, james_li: could you take a moment to look at those bug descriptions | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: ping | 21:10 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni: I am going to start working on that | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar has volunteered to take those bugs | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | that will be awesome vijendar | 21:10 |
| datsun180b | Likely due to the the more strict cli parsing I imagie | 21:10 |
| datsun180b | oh wrong bug | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: oh yeah | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | I will come to those in a bit | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | right now discussing logs related bugs | 21:11 |
| datsun180b | sorry, still getting used to different copypaste shortcuts | 21:12 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: not a mac? | 21:12 |
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| datsun180b | not anymore, no | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: does the bug description for the logs api make sense? | 21:13 |
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| datsun180b | sure, makes sense | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | cool.. datsun180b one of the things that we need to keep in mind is the id vs uuid change | 21:15 |
| datsun180b | the userlog table is weakly bound to assemblies anyway, changing the column name should be the hardest part of that change | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | the loggers are written with the assumption that the 'resource' has a uuid | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: sure | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | james_li, muralia: what do you guys think? does the bug description captures enough details for vijendar to tackle it? | 21:17 |
| james_li | link? | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1498147 | 21:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498147 in Solum "add-logs-to-workflow-resource" [High,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla) | 21:17 |
| muralia | yes, i think there enough detail | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: cool | 21:18 |
| james_li | looks ok | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | awesome | 21:18 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni muralia james_li will ping you guys if I need any help | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: +1 | 21:19 |
| muralia | sure | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | ok, moving on to the next one | 21:19 |
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| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni): Looking for volunteers for some bugs | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | in last couple of days I was doing bugs cleanup | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | in our launchpad | 21:20 |
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| devkulkarni | I have also added few new bugs which I encountered recently | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | I am thinking that going forward | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | I will make it a point to bring these bugs in our meetings | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | to discuss and design solutions for | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | today I have these three: | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1498209 | 21:21 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498209 in python-solumclient "created-at-in-solum-app-list" [Medium,New] | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1424836 | 21:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1424836 in python-solumclient "Typo in language pack creation" [Undecided,New] | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1498056 | 21:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498056 in Solum "Fix oslo imports in solum-infra-guest-agent" [Low,New] | 21:21 |
| james_li | we don't need solum-infra-guest-agent repo do we? | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | please check out the bugs | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: good question | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | so numergy folks had added it | 21:22 |
| james_li | yeah and it is not complete | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | when we were thinking of creating a infra nodes for building dus | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | yes | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | the problem is, there is one patch on it which is failing | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | it was brought to our attention by someone from the infra team | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | i think in the context of creating liberty release | 21:23 |
| devkulkarni | so the bug is just to fix the failing gate issue | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | I think datsun180b has identified it already on that patch | 21:24 |
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| james_li | if we fix it this time, will we see other failures later on? | 21:24 |
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| devkulkarni | james_li: most likely not | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | as this one time is for the oslo change | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | if nothing gets added to that repo then ideally it should not fail | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | but we never know | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | I understand your concern about maintaining it | 21:25 |
| james_li | just don't want it to distract people | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: good point | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | I thought about it when we were migrating the repos from stackforge to openstack | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | at that time my thinking was, if in the future if we do decide to implement a build farm, then having this around might be good starting point | 21:26 |
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| devkulkarni | so this bug is not blocker for us | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | I don't think it was a blocker for the infra team either | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | it was just that | 21:27 |
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| james_li | if we find a good isolation approach we can just build on worker hosts just fine | 21:27 |
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| devkulkarni | james_li: agreed. we need to land your patches which will give us that isolation | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | james_li, datsun180b, muralia, vijendar: thoughts on other two bugs? | 21:28 |
| james_li | think the solum client bugs make sense | 21:29 |
| muralia | both seem straight forward | 21:30 |
| devkulkarni | ok, if anyone of you have some b/w (which probably you don't), it would be awesome if you can take one of those | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | i don't at present have an environment to work even straightforward client bugs | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: oh! | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: vagrant setup not working for you? | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | it's a matter of having hardware on hand | 21:32 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: hmm.. not enough memory I suppose on your machine | 21:32 |
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| * adrian_otto back | 21:33 | |
| james_li | datsun180b: your cell phone is a hardware | 21:33 |
| datsun180b | the only machine i have that could do it has 2 gigs of ram | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: nice to see you back | 21:33 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: I see. Yeah, that is not sufficient for our vagrant setup. although I have never tried it with less than 4 G | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: :D | 21:34 |
| datsun180b | i used to give it 10 gigs | 21:34 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: yes, that's what I do | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: no worries. if you get around to taking up one of those cli bugs that would be nice. | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | but I understand that you all are pretty busy | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | just want to see you all involved :) | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | ok, moving on to next topic | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Open Discussion | 21:36 |
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| devkulkarni | I have two for this. I am going to take the second one first. | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni): Changing meeting time to Tuesday mornings | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | So let me give some background on this | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | Our meeting time conflicts with the cross-project meeting | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | which is happening right now in openstack-meeting channel | 21:37 |
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| devkulkarni | I would like to ocassionally attend that meeting to keep up with any cross-project discussions/decisions etc. | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | second is that, recently noorul seems to be back | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | he has been reviewing some of our recent patches | 21:38 |
| james_li | he will sign on for those two client bugs :) | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: ha ha. yes. good point | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | I can check with him | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | so, going back | 21:39 |
| james_li | I am +1 on changing our time | 21:39 |
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| muralia | im good with that too | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b, adrian_otto, vijendar: what do you guys think? | 21:39 |
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| datsun180b | I'm not categorically opposed, but I'm not certain what the new proposed time is | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: I don't know what are the open slots. | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | in fact, I need to figure out how to find open slots | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: I was hoping that we switch to morning times | 21:40 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: I am OK with morning time | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | to give folks in India, like noorul, an opportunity to participate | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | right now, its 2.30am in India | 21:41 |
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| devkulkarni | our earlier time of 11.00am would be 9.30pm in India | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | so some time on or before 11.00am should work for both sides | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: cool | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | I have no objections as long as we don't select the same time as the Magnum team meeting | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yes, makes sense | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | avoid 1600 UTC | 21:42 |
| datsun180b | tuesday mornings should be fine | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | I believe magnum meetings are at 11.00 | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | on every alternate tuesdays, right? | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: cool | 21:43 |
| muralia | yes | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | yes, and we are currently discussing doing all of them at 1600 UTC instead of alternating | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: oh okay. good to know | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | so 11.00am is not an option | 21:43 |
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| devkulkarni | may be 10.00am or noon | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | noon is better for me | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | which one will work for all of you? | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: ok | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | sorry, I am referring to central times | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | so yeah, 10.00am is too early for you adrian_otto | 21:44 |
| james_li | noon is fine with me | 21:44 |
| muralia | why dont u start a doodle pool. we can vote | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: sure, I can do that | 21:45 |
| muralia | noon austin time is good for me too | 21:45 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: ok | 21:45 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar, datsun180b: how does Tuesday noon sound to you? | 21:45 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: how to check if a particular time slot is available or not? | 21:46 |
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| datsun180b | keep in mind that Austin is in CDT (UTC-5), and will shift to CST (UCT-6) on the first of November | 21:46 |
| devkulkarni | in a channel? | 21:46 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: yes | 21:46 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: so right now, our majority of contributors are in US time zones | 21:47 |
| datsun180b | so it'll be noon tuesday for a few months, and then it'll move over an hour | 21:47 |
| datsun180b | devkulkarni: but openstack works off zulu time | 21:47 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: good point | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | that means the chosen time will appear to be one hour sooner | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | so 1600 UTC now is 11:00 am CDT, and will be 9:00 am CST after DST ends. | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: so after November 1st, it will be 11.00am. (And magnum will be at 10.00am), right? | 21:48 |
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| adrian_otto | yes | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | ok. (always hard to keep those things straight in my head) | 21:48 |
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| adrian_otto | wait, What I wrote was not right | 21:48 |
| datsun180b | yeah that's a two hour swing | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | try that again: | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | so 1600 UTC now is 11:00 am CDT, and will be 10:00 am CST after DST ends. | 21:48 |
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| devkulkarni | ok, that makes sense | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | so then I am proposing 1700 UTC for our meeting | 21:49 |
| datsun180b | so noon or 11am central time | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | which will be noon CDT, and 11.00am CDT after DST ends | 21:49 |
| datsun180b | that sounds dandy | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | +1 datsun180b | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | so in fact, noon will be only for few more meetings (if we do change it before DST ends) | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 21:50 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: works for me | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | but all of this will depend on whether the channel is available at that time | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: cool | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: how to check if this channel is available at above times? | 21:51 |
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| datsun180b | alternately, we can create and petition for the annexation of #openstack-meeting-double-secret-clubhouse | 21:52 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: :D | 21:52 |
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| adrian_otto | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings | 21:53 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: thanks | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | looking | 21:53 |
| adrian_otto | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings | 21:53 |
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| devkulkarni | murano is at 1700 UTC | 21:54 |
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| devkulkarni | we could use different channel, or look for other time | 21:55 |
| devkulkarni | let me do some research on what is available | 21:55 |
| devkulkarni | will come back with a suggestion for our next meeting | 21:55 |
| devkulkarni | we are just about at the end | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | I have one more topic for open discussion | 21:56 |
| adrian_otto | and http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/solum-team-meeting.yaml needs the description to be updated to remove the mention of alternating meetings. | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: oh okay | 21:57 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: I guess need to submit a patch. will do that | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | (devkulkarni): Figuring out details of the Solum Fishbowl session at Tokyo (when, where, what) | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | I don't have details of this yet | 21:57 |
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| devkulkarni | was hoping to join the cross-project meeting today to find this out | 21:58 |
| devkulkarni | but could not do so | 21:58 |
| devkulkarni | will try to find details about this by our next meeting | 21:58 |
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| devkulkarni | ok, we are in the last minute for today | 21:59 |
| devkulkarni | thanks datsun180b, vijendar, muralia, james_li, adrian_otto for joining today | 21:59 |
| muralia | o/ | 21:59 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 21:59:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-09-22-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-09-22-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-09-22-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 22:00:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-09-22_2200_UTC Our Agneda | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:00 |
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| mfalatic | o/ | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:00 |
| daneyon_ | o/ | 22:00 |
| sew1 | Steven Wilson | 22:00 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:00 |
| Tango | Ton Ngo | 22:00 |
| muralia | o/ | 22:00 |
| juggler | Perry Rivera o/ | 22:00 |
| eghobo | o/ | 22:00 |
| wanghua | Wanghua | 22:00 |
| rods | o/ | 22:00 |
| hongbin | o/ | 22:01 |
| bradjones | o/ | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | hello mfalatic, daneyon_, Tango, muralia, juggler, eghobo, wanghua, rods, hongbin, bradjones | 22:01 |
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| Drago | o/ | 22:01 |
| juggler | hello! | 22:01 |
| muralia | hi | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello Drago | 22:01 |
| vilobhmm11 | o/ | 22:02 |
| Drago | :) hi all | 22:02 |
| daneyon_ | hello | 22:02 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:03 |
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| wznoinsk | o/ | 22:03 |
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| adrian_otto | due to a compounded sequence of events, there was no candidate submitted for Magnum PTL prior to the deadline for candidacy submission. | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | Both Hongbin and I submitted entries after the deadline, so the TC has decided to hold a separate election to decide who the PTL will be going forard. | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | the electorate is Magnum contributors. | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | when the dates for that election is known, we will relay them to you | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | any questions? | 22:05 |
| juggler | none here | 22:05 |
| daneyon_ | nope | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 22:05 |
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| adrian_otto | hello wznoinsk | 22:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Container Networking Subteam Update (daneyon_) | 22:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015 Previous Meetings | 22:06 |
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| daneyon_ | thx | 22:06 |
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| thomasem | \o | 22:06 |
| daneyon_ | we had our weekly meeting as usual last Thurs | 22:07 |
| suro-patz | o/ | 22:07 |
| daneyon_ | We reviewed the kuryr design spec | 22:07 |
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| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213490/ | 22:07 |
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| daneyon_ | the spec has +1's from the magnum community | 22:07 |
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| daneyon_ | now it's a metter of getting the CR's to vote and merge | 22:07 |
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| daneyon_ | I created a bp for the kuryr/magnum integration work | 22:08 |
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| daneyon_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/containers-in-instances | 22:08 |
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| daneyon_ | the bp will be the reference point for both communities | 22:08 |
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| daneyon_ | last but not least.... | 22:08 |
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| daneyon_ | I have the magnum container networking model working for swarm bays | 22:09 |
| daneyon_ | as of 1 hour ago | 22:09 |
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| apmelton | awesome news! | 22:09 |
| juggler | yeah! | 22:09 |
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| hongbin_ | daneyon_: use flannel? | 22:09 |
| daneyon_ | i can instantiate a swarm bay with multiple nodes, pass the network-driver, labels to modify flannel config attributes. I can deploy multiple containers using swarm across multiple nodes and containers can communicate with one aother over the flannel overlay network | 22:10 |
| daneyon_ | yes, using flennel | 22:10 |
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| adrian_otto | fennel ;-) mmmmm, yummy | 22:10 |
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| daneyon_ | as part of this effort, I changed swarm discovery to use etcd instead of public discovery. | 22:10 |
| wanghua | ectd need discovery, too | 22:11 |
| daneyon_ | the key issue, we can not support multiple disocvery processes in a single bay | 22:11 |
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| daneyon_ | since flannel is required (it's our only support network-driver), swarm needs to implement etcd | 22:11 |
| daneyon_ | lol | 22:12 |
| daneyon_ | wanghua correct, etcd still uses the public discovery mechanism. | 22:12 |
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| daneyon_ | we just can;t have swarm and etcd both using public discovery. | 22:12 |
| eghobo | daneyon_: but we have one etcd at master | 22:12 |
| eghobo | we have zookeper for mesos | 22:13 |
| hongbin_ | eghobo: I don't think zookeeper is good for service discovery | 22:13 |
| wanghua | We can let swarm use the etcd in bay | 22:13 |
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| daneyon_ | it's possible to have multiple discovery processes in a bay, it would require larger code changes though | 22:14 |
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| eghobo | hongbin_: zookepeer was just example | 22:14 |
| hongbin_ | eghobo: k | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok, lets wrap up the Network subteam update if we can | 22:14 |
| daneyon_ | eghobo swarm did not use etcd | 22:14 |
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| daneyon_ | hongbin_ i have yet to look at the mesos stuff | 22:14 |
| hongbin_ | daneyon_: let me know if you need help for mesos bay | 22:15 |
| daneyon_ | if we need to support multiple public discovery mechanisms in a bay, then we will need to make bigger changes to how the public_url is implemented. | 22:15 |
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| daneyon_ | If i have a bay with zk and etcd, they each need their own public_url for public discovery | 22:15 |
| wanghua | daneyon_:Swarm can use etcd in the bay to discover like in k8s | 22:15 |
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| daneyon_ | wanghua that's what i implemented. swarm uses etcd and etcd uses the public-url for it's public discovery mechanism. | 22:16 |
| wanghua | daneyon_: swarm support etcd already. | 22:17 |
| daneyon_ | here is the current work | 22:17 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224367/ | 22:17 |
| daneyon_ | it's funcational, so give it a spin | 22:17 |
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| adrian_otto | daneyon: Thanks for all the awesome work. This is super exciting to see!! Does this conclude your update? | 22:18 |
| daneyon_ | wanghua correct. However, magnum was not using etcd to back swarm, it was using swarm's public discovery | 22:18 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto yes | 22:18 |
| daneyon_ | any other questions we can take off line | 22:18 |
| wanghua | daneyon_: We can make a little adjustment | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | thanks daneyon_ | 22:18 |
| daneyon_ | yw | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update | 22:18 |
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| adrian_otto | bradjones: any update to share? | 22:19 |
| bradjones | sure | 22:19 |
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| bradjones | not a huge update (was on vacation last week) | 22:19 |
| bradjones | we managed to merge some of the API work | 22:19 |
| bradjones | big thanks to those that have been active reviewing | 22:19 |
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| bradjones | going to rebase my WIP patches that have the views for Bay and BayModel tomorrow | 22:20 |
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| bradjones | onto that code | 22:20 |
| bradjones | then hopefully will be on track to merge those views in by the end of the week | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | sweet! Any questions for Brad? | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | thanks bradjones | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:21 |
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| adrian_otto | adrian_otto to follow up with project-config cores to ask if we can arrange to merge https://review.openstack.org/216933 | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | the code is merged | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | ^^ 1) | 22:22 |
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| adrian_otto | 2) Tango and manjeets_ to work together to complete https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | I have seen a series of advancements on that BP | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | is this action complete? | 22:22 |
| Tango | The latest patch works end to end | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | WHOOT | 22:22 |
| Tango | There is the issue about handling the password | 22:22 |
| Tango | after some discussion and feedback from the team, I decided to take the manual approach to avoid any potential security issue | 22:23 |
| wanghua | Handling the password is a common issue in several bps | 22:23 |
| Tango | later we can investigate and evaluate the several approaches | 22:23 |
| Tango | very helpful suggestions from the team | 22:24 |
| eghobo | Tango: I think DNS is issue | 22:24 |
| eghobo | not everyone run Designate | 22:24 |
| Tango | ok, I can follow up with you to better understand | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's revisit this in just a moment when we get to this in BP/Bug Review | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | Tango: should I carry this action item forward, or should we consider it done? | 22:25 |
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| Tango | I think it's done | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | I think it's done, but want to be sure you see it that way | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprint Updates | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay Obtain the objects from the bay endpoint (vilobhmm) | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | vilobhmm11: update on this? | 22:26 |
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| vilobhmm11 | working on making changes since v1 patch merged yest | 22:26 |
| vilobhmm11 | so some test are breaking | 22:26 |
| vilobhmm11 | fixing them | 22:26 |
| vilobhmm11 | adrian_otto : ^^ | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | ok. IS there any help you need from the team to keep moving on this? | 22:27 |
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| vilobhmm11 | need help esp with the unit tests | 22:27 |
| vilobhmm11 | our unit test framework is closely tied to DB | 22:27 |
| vilobhmm11 | with objects from bay | 22:28 |
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| vilobhmm11 | we are removing this tight coupleing | 22:28 |
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| vilobhmm11 | mostly help with unit test would be handy | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | right, so many unit tests will need to be refactored, right? | 22:28 |
| vilobhmm11 | adrian_otto : yes | 22:28 |
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| vilobhmm11 | almost every unit test in read/write path for service/rc/pod needs to be modified | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | ok, if we have a way to identify all the tests that need to be refactored, and make somme sort of a list that references them we can point contributors to that and ask for help adjusting them all | 22:29 |
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| adrian_otto | it might be nice if we could show an example of how to fix them | 22:29 |
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| vilobhmm11 | adrian_otto : will do so..have an etherpad link up by tommorow | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | and how to do them as patches that depend on the refactor review | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | is there one particular commit that needs to merge before all the unit tests are adjusted? | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | or does this need to be done all as one big patch? | 22:30 |
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| vilobhmm11 | I have separtaed out patches for each object seperately | 22:30 |
| vilobhmm11 | seperate patch for rc/service/pod | 22:31 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any questions on this from the team? | 22:31 |
| vilobhmm11 | adrian_otto : does the above info answer your question ? | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | yes, thanks | 22:32 |
| vilobhmm11 | ok np | 22:32 |
| vilobhmm11 | thats it from objects-from-bay | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | thanks vilobhmm11 | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-kubernetes Secure the client/server communication between ReST client and ReST server (madhuri) | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | madhuri is not present | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | most of this has been merged. | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: any comments on this one? | 22:33 |
| apmelton | not for k8s specifically | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb Support the kubernetes service external-load-balancer feature (Tango) | 22:33 |
| Tango | One good news is that the Kubernetes-V1 patch merged | 22:34 |
| Tango | that makes things a lot easier | 22:34 |
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| adrian_otto | yay! | 22:34 |
| Tango | As mentioned earlier, the patch for LB should be good now, but it needs review | 22:34 |
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| juggler | excellent Tango | 22:34 |
| juggler | (and team) | 22:35 |
| Tango | I am writing a guide to explain how to use the feature | 22:35 |
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| adrian_otto | want to post links to work needing review? | 22:35 |
| wanghua | Tango, is the feature optional? | 22:35 |
| Tango | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191878/ | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | maybe these? | 22:35 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/magnum+branch:master+topic:bp/external-lb,n,z external-lb reviews | 22:36 |
| Tango | wanghua: Yes with the manual step for editing the password, the feature is disabled by default | 22:36 |
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| Tango | the user needs to log into the master node to enter the password in a config file, then restart kube-apiserver and kube-controller-manager | 22:36 |
| Tango | So you have the option of not using the feature | 22:37 |
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| adrian_otto | user = administrator | 22:37 |
| Tango | Right | 22:38 |
| Tango | I am adding a functional test using nginx | 22:38 |
| hongbin_ | Tango: adrian_otto Don't think so, anyone who create the bay can be a user, not necessary an admn | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | ok, sounds like some automation there might be a nice future enhancement. We should file bugs or BP's for that when these are finished. | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin_: right. I can't remember the official name of the persona who owns the bay. | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | I suppose "cloud user" is right then | 22:39 |
| hongbin_ | k | 22:39 |
| Tango | Right, we need to evaluate best support to implement the additional automation to handle the password | 22:39 |
| Tango | there are several approaches | 22:40 |
| wanghua | As handling user credentials in the bays is a common issue in several bps, we need to decide a way | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | yes | 22:40 |
| wanghua | Can we use trust? | 22:40 |
| apmelton | if we can wanghua, I'd much prefer it | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | we also have this concern for the Docker Distribution (registry-v2) component | 22:41 |
| Tango | I think trust requires token? | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | Tango: rather than a password, did you mean an auth token? | 22:41 |
| apmelton | I seem to remember seeing a 'trust-id' config param for Docker Distribution | 22:41 |
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| wanghua | auth token will expire | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | because if you support an auth token, then it can take a trust token too. | 22:41 |
| Tango | adrian_otto: That would be the ideal solution, but will require change in kus | 22:42 |
| Tango | k8s | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | and the trust token can be scoped to have a far future expiry | 22:42 |
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| adrian_otto | I see. First things first. Let's make it work, and then iterate on it to make it better. | 22:42 |
| wanghua | If we don't give expire time when we create trust, then the trust will never expire. | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | wanghua: exactly | 22:43 |
| Tango | if there is a common set of requirement for several BPs, we should pull together and see if this can be solved in a common way. | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | this might also fold into the instance user discussion that's ongoing in nova currently | 22:43 |
| wanghua | adrian_otto, any reference? | 22:44 |
| wanghua | for nova discussion | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222293/1/specs/instance-users.rst,cm Instance Users Spec | 22:44 |
| Tango | More homework to be done | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/222293 Instance Users for Cloud Interaction | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks Tango. Lots of good progress this past week, thanks! | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-docker Secure client/server communication using TLS (apmelton) | 22:46 |
| apmelton | I've got a review up on this | 22:46 |
| apmelton | with some good input | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | https://review.openstack.org/212598 | 22:46 |
| apmelton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212598/ | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/212598 Add TLS to Docker-Swarm Template (WIP) | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | what's remaining to promote this from WIP to normal status? | 22:47 |
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| apmelton | I need to add an 'insecure' flag so tls can be disabled | 22:47 |
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| adrian_otto | can we do that as a follow-up review that is WIP that depends on this one? | 22:48 |
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| adrian_otto | or do you see that as a minor addition (not making any assumptions here) | 22:48 |
| apmelton | actually, if this patch lands, and you can't disable TLS the container conductor will be broken | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | yes, I remember that now rom the midcycle… catching up on the comment stream | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:49 |
| apmelton | my next step after adding the insecure flag is going to be working through what's necessarily to get the conductors talking TLS | 22:49 |
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| apmelton | I'll be breaking that suffiently so it can be shared between conductors for k8s/swarm/mesos/etc | 22:50 |
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| adrian_otto | Sweet! Any more before we advance to Open Discussion? | 22:50 |
| apmelton | not from me | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:50 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks apmelton | 22:50 |
| juggler | any status highlights for the Japan Summit? | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | you mean in term of highlighting new features we added in this release? | 22:51 |
| juggler | sure and general status of prep work towards the the summit, etc. | 22:52 |
| devkulkarni | I have a question | 22:52 |
| devkulkarni | about container-create cli command | 22:53 |
| suro-patz | Would request core-reviewers to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226491/ - this will fix functional test failure and help others proceed | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | juggler: that's something we will pick up as soon as the PTL election concludes | 22:53 |
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| juggler | adrian_otto: excellent | 22:54 |
| wanghua | Does magnum support ironic now? | 22:54 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, there are heat templates for ironic | 22:54 |
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| adrian_otto | but ironic does not completely support neutron | 22:54 |
| wanghua | Then it can not work? | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | so depending on how your network is laid out, you may have some tweaking to do in order to make it work right with your network setup | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | it's not universally compatible with all network drivers. | 22:55 |
| devkulkarni | is there plan to add glance integration for container-create command? i.e. provide ability to access/use containers which are in glance as part of container-create | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: not that I'm aware of. I'd suggest using Heat for that. | 22:56 |
| wanghua | Why we need to do this | 22:56 |
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| adrian_otto | Heat in combination with this: https://review.openstack.org/193174 | 22:56 |
| wanghua | I think you can do it by nova-docker | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | wanghua: nobody is really maintaining nova-docker | 22:57 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: but heat won't do the scheduling of containers on the bay nodes, right? so I was thinking of using the container-create within solum to run application containers on the bay nodes. | 22:57 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: if you are using the code I referenced, heat uses a Magnum Bay | 22:58 |
| devkulkarni | solum has ability to store application containers in glance and swift | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | and the Bay includes the scheduling capability | 22:58 |
| wanghua | I think you can use swarm to do it | 22:58 |
| wanghua | and put the image in docker registry | 22:59 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: ok, will take a closer look at it. I haven't yet started on the integration yet | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | for that integration, you'd want to place the images in the private repo we put in swift with Docker Distribution | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | then pull from that | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | we are coming to the scheduled end of our meeting time now | 22:59 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yes, that is one option | 22:59 |
| devkulkarni | wanghua: yes, that is an option | 23:00 |
| adrian_otto | Our next team meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 2015-09-29 at 1600 UTC. | 23:00 |
| adrian_otto | see you then. Thanks everyone! | 23:00 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 23:00:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-09-22-22.00.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-09-22-22.00.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-09-22-22.00.log.html | 23:00 |
| juggler | thanks all | 23:00 |
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