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rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
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yamamoto_ | hi | 16:00 |
Sukhdev_ | hello | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev_ | manishg: are you here? | 16:01 |
rkukura | good to see everyone! | 16:01 |
Sukhdev_ | shivharis: are you here? | 16:01 |
scheuran | hi | 16:01 |
shivharis | hi | 16:02 |
rkukura | lets get going… | 16:02 |
rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 16:02:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:02 |
yamahata | hello | 16:02 |
rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev_ | kevinbenton: we are going to need you today in this meeting - to cover ML2 sprint next week | 16:03 |
rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_30.2C_2015 | 16:03 |
rkukura | Would anyone like to add/remove anything to/from today’s agenda? | 16:03 |
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rkukura | Some of these items have been queued up for a while, so I’m glad to see shivharis, scheuran, and others here today for some updates | 16:05 |
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rkukura | OK, lets move on | 16:05 |
rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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rkukura | Congrats to armax, our new neutron PTL! | 16:05 |
rkukura | He’s not here, but sometimes lurks in these meetings | 16:05 |
shivharis | armax: congrats! | 16:06 |
rkukura | And many thanks to mestery! | 16:06 |
Sukhdev_ | and a huge thank you to mestery | 16:06 |
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rkukura | Hopefully everyone (especially those attending) is aware our ML2 pre-cycle sprint is next week at Yahoo! | 16:06 |
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rkukura | Because of that, I’m thinking we should skip next weeks regular ML2 IRC meeting. | 16:07 |
rkukura | Any objections to that? | 16:07 |
rkukura | #action rkukura to update agenda skipping next week’s meeting | 16:08 |
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rkukura | Any other annoucements? | 16:08 |
* rkukura needs to learn to type | 16:09 | |
Sukhdev_ | Liberty-RC1 is out and RC2 in the oven | 16:09 |
rkukura | #topic ML2 pre-cycle sprint | 16:09 |
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rkukura | #undo | 16:09 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x9afcf90> | 16:09 |
rkukura | Sukhdev: thanks | 16:09 |
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rkukura | #topic ML2 pre-cycle sprint | 16:10 |
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rkukura | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint | 16:10 |
rkukura | The above link has the most up-to-date info, and any updates will be made there | 16:11 |
rkukura | Looks like we are expecting /me, manishg, harlowja, Sukhdev_, kevinbenton, shivharis, and yamahata to attend in person | 16:12 |
shivharis | rkukura: just curious, what would be the success criteria of the sprint? | 16:12 |
rkukura | Are any others planning to attend either in person or remotely? | 16:12 |
shivharis | rkukura: what are must do's | 16:12 |
yamahata | Yalei and Rui are planning to attend it remotely | 16:13 |
yamahata | I'm not sure what time they can attend due to timezone, though. | 16:13 |
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rkukura | shivharis: My take on that is to come out with a concrete plan for asnyc backend synchronization for ML2 in Mitaka | 16:13 |
shivharis | rkukura: +2 | 16:13 |
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rkukura | yamahata: Lets followup on the remote attendance via email and see if we need to set anything up | 16:14 |
yamahata | networking-odl has several requirement for backend sync. | 16:14 |
yamahata | rkukura: sure. | 16:14 |
shivharis | any new doc on async that we should have read thoroughly | 16:15 |
rkukura | So we need to get a clear statement of the agreed requirements, evaluate various design options, and hopefully get some prototype code started | 16:15 |
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rkukura | shivharis: I’m not aware of anything new, but would encourage everyone attending to refresh their memory on the existing docs and PoC patch linked from the etherpad. | 16:16 |
shivharis | ok | 16:16 |
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rkukura | I’d also encourage putting some thought into the requirements and the design options beyond what has already been documents. | 16:17 |
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rkukura | Any other questions, comments, concerns, etc., regarding the sprint next week? | 16:18 |
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rkukura | Feel free to put thoughts into writing (etherpads, google slides or docs, whatever) or be prepared to whiteboard ideas | 16:19 |
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* rkukura looks forward to seeing everyone next week! | 16:19 | |
rkukura | Anything else on the sprint? | 16:19 |
rkukura | if not, … | 16:19 |
rkukura | #topic Mitaka Design Summit proposals for ML2 | 16:20 |
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rkukura | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 16:20 |
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rkukura | Lets make sure anything anyone feels should get into ML2 during Mitaka is covered on the list I linked above | 16:21 |
rkukura | Does anyone know when/how armax plans to pair this down to a set of sessions? | 16:21 |
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armax | rkukura: I’ll be working on those this week and post notes shortly after | 16:22 |
armax | rkukura: bear with me | 16:22 |
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rkukura | armax: Thanks | 16:22 |
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rkukura | armax: I think the main ML2 items are async, drivers+SGs, and modular L2, so please let us know if you are on the fence about including any of these. | 16:24 |
rkukura | I meant modular L2 agent | 16:24 |
armax | rkukura: ok, as usual the balance to what goes in the summit and doesn’t is always tricky due to shortage of time | 16:24 |
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rkukura | armax: Of course many of the other suggested topics impact ML2 as well. | 16:25 |
armax | rkukura: if not all | 16:25 |
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armax | one way or another | 16:25 |
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rkukura | armax: Feel free to check in on progress at the sprint next week, and see if these topics (async mainly) will need discussion at the summit | 16:27 |
rkukura | Anything else on the summit topics? | 16:27 |
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rkukura | #topic Driver API for SGs | 16:28 |
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armax | rkukura: ok, thanks for the heads-up | 16:28 |
rkukura | yamamoto_: Do you have any update on this? | 16:28 |
yamamoto_ | no progress or updates, sorry | 16:29 |
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rkukura | I’m sure there will be some discussion of this at the sprint next week, so maybe we can followup on that at the next IRC meeting | 16:30 |
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rkukura | #topic Modular L2 Agent and macvtap | 16:31 |
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rkukura | scheuran: Do you have an update on this? | 16:31 |
scheuran | not much | 16:31 |
scheuran | we were producing a number of patchsets to figure out which way to go | 16:31 |
rkukura | or sc68cal | 16:31 |
scheuran | but we still need to sort it out and structure it a bit | 16:31 |
scheuran | I'll try to meet with sc68cal this week to come to first proposal | 16:32 |
rkukura | OK, great | 16:32 |
scheuran | and figure out which refactorings make sense and which not | 16:32 |
rkukura | scheuran: Thanks | 16:33 |
rkukura | Anything else on this? | 16:33 |
scheuran | yeah, maybe one question | 16:33 |
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rkukura | sure | 16:33 |
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scheuran | was the modular agent planned as an agent with a single plugin (like neutron) | 16:34 |
scheuran | or more something like the ml2 plugin where you can plugin multiple drivers in parallel? | 16:34 |
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shivharis | are you going to support multiple hypervisors at the same time? | 16:35 |
rkukura | scheuran: Are there use cases for multiple drivers to work together? Or maybe different kinds of drivers for different purposes? | 16:35 |
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scheuran | shivharis, what do you mean by multiple hypervisors? | 16:36 |
scheuran | rkukura, not for macvtap and linuxbridge | 16:36 |
scheuran | but maybe sriov and linuxbridge or sriov and macvtap | 16:36 |
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scheuran | not sure if anyone does this, but theoretically it's possible | 16:37 |
shivharis | maybe i misunderstood the point of multiple driver - never mind | 16:37 |
scheuran | as sriov ports are requested with a vnic type =! normal, linuxbridge and macvtap port with vnictype normal | 16:37 |
rkukura | It probably makes sense to support multiple drivers, unless that makes things much more difficult | 16:37 |
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scheuran | rkukura, I think it will make things more complex, but I need to have a look what it means | 16:38 |
rkukura | scheuran: OK | 16:38 |
scheuran | ok thanks | 16:38 |
rkukura | Anything else on this? | 16:38 |
scheuran | no | 16:38 |
rkukura | #topic Physical Topology | 16:39 |
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rkukura | shivharis: Do you have an update? | 16:39 |
shivharis | sure | 16:39 |
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shivharis | Since prior proposals for toplogy discovery seem to have issues | 16:40 |
shivharis | I started to leading the push for a fresh start on this, the flaws that i saw in proposals was related to very close dependecy on neutron | 16:41 |
shivharis | so this new proposal removes that from the equation | 16:41 |
shivharis | asomya and gkotton have been discussing this and have a proposal in place (and some code) | 16:42 |
shivharis | I will share the document to the folks prior to the sprint and we can have a go at it | 16:42 |
shivharis | in short we use a modular approach - with possible driver for | 16:43 |
shivharis | lldp, cdp, bgp and arp | 16:43 |
rkukura | shivharis: Are there competing proposal at this point or are you, asomya, and gkotton on the same page? | 16:43 |
shivharis | no this is one proposal from the 3 of us. | 16:44 |
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Sukhdev_ | shivharis: are you presenting this at the summit? | 16:44 |
rkukura | shivharis: Is it for a service plugin within neutron or a new standalone service? | 16:44 |
Sukhdev_ | shivharis: in design session or regular session? | 16:44 |
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shivharis | we have put this on agenda for neutron design session and gary is planning this for nova | 16:45 |
shivharis | this is essentially a standalone service | 16:45 |
shivharis | but we need to start somewhere and begin to socialize it | 16:45 |
shivharis | i will discuss this in the sprint as well | 16:46 |
Sukhdev_ | yes, this will be very useful for both nova and neutron | 16:46 |
Sukhdev_ | and Ironic as well | 16:46 |
shivharis | right Sukhdev, there are many consumers as you described - also add to it heat | 16:47 |
shivharis | that is all i have for now, will discuss more in the sprint | 16:47 |
rkukura | shivharis: thanks! | 16:47 |
rkukura | Any quesitons or comments on this? | 16:48 |
rkukura | If not… | 16:48 |
Sukhdev_ | looking forward to the details - | 16:48 |
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rkukura | Sukhdev_: +1 | 16:48 |
shivharis | ok | 16:48 |
rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:48 |
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Sukhdev_ | manishg is here to discuss the logistics for the sprint | 16:48 |
Sukhdev_ | manishg: please go ahead | 16:49 |
manishg | Sukhdev_: sorry missed your ping earlier. | 16:49 |
rkukura | manishg: please, go ahead | 16:49 |
Sukhdev_ | kevinbenton: are you here? | 16:49 |
manishg | The address etc. are on the etherpad. Once you show up please call me. My phone number on etherpad too | 16:49 |
manishg | or the receptionist will do. | 16:49 |
manishg | Are there specifics about the venue, etc. that folks have questions about? | 16:50 |
shivharis | for the task flow - i still feel as before - we need to get a state transition diagram to make this design stick | 16:50 |
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manishg | shivharis: are you planning to attend? | 16:50 |
shivharis | manishg: you bet | 16:50 |
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manishg | I think if we go with states, we'll need some state table. | 16:50 |
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manishg | depending on the complexity, a diagram may also be needed | 16:51 |
rkukura | manishg: Can we assume plenty of whiteboard space? | 16:51 |
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manishg | rkukura, yes. plenty of white board space | 16:51 |
manishg | I'll order more (portable ones) today! | 16:52 |
manishg | just in case we need more... | 16:52 |
Sukhdev_ | manishg: if we can have some prep work done, it will make the discussions more productive | 16:52 |
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manishg | Sukhdev_ : who are the key folks leading? | 16:53 |
manishg | I thought asoumya was interested in last summit, is he able to join? | 16:53 |
Sukhdev_ | manishg: I am looking at you and Josh to lead the task flow discussion | 16:53 |
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rkukura | manishg: asomya is interested but not able to attend | 16:53 |
manishg | Taskflow part will be fine I think. But there are decisions need to be made from ML2 side. | 16:53 |
Sukhdev_ | manishg: Hence, a bit of prep work go long ways | 16:54 |
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rkukura | I’ve been encouraging everyone to think about the requirements and the design options | 16:54 |
manishg | I think a lot of prep work was done and still out there. Is there any more update on it? | 16:54 |
rkukura | And to re-read what’s already been written. | 16:54 |
manishg | I think some good discussions happened. and options documented. | 16:54 |
manishg | rkukura: +1 | 16:55 |
Sukhdev_ | Our goal for the sprint should be to achive concensus on ML2 sync using task flow | 16:55 |
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manishg | it's been a while. So I think to make it more productive we should be well aware of previous discussions. | 16:55 |
rkukura | manishg, others: Would be good to know who is committed to working on the implementation during Mitaka | 16:55 |
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manishg | rkukura: I think once we finalize the design, etc. the effort will be clear and folks can commit then. | 16:56 |
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manishg | as the amount of work may depend on the final decisions. | 16:56 |
rkukura | manishg: agreed | 16:56 |
Sukhdev_ | everybody - please read this as well - https://docs.google.com/document/d/17fATwZkJEonH0pIb1-mPD0UB5RKnJzcHYqkBesJhirE/edit#bookmark=id.5axbk82zh7nb | 16:56 |
manishg | So I think it would be good to document the main problem, possible solutions and discussion around the selected solutin. | 16:57 |
Sukhdev_ | this articulates the ML2 sync requirements | 16:57 |
rkukura | Sukhdev_: that doc is linked on the etherpad | 16:57 |
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manishg | Sukhdev_ : thanks. | 16:57 |
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rkukura | Lets start with a brainstorming a list of the requrement on the whiteboard, and then trying to identity the must-haves, nice-to-haves, etc. | 16:57 |
manishg | all the attendees should please read this, the patch, and also think about other potential issues. | 16:58 |
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manishg | Sukhdev_ : did you have any other prep work in mind? | 16:58 |
manishg | I think this will be a good start. | 16:58 |
rkukura | We’ve got 2 minutes left | 16:58 |
rkukura | Any other questions regarding the logistics for next week? | 16:59 |
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Sukhdev_ | manishg: essentially a refresher or any diagram what shivharis was elluding to - basically, anything that will help people converge quicky | 16:59 |
rkukura | manishg: Please add your phone # to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Mid-Cycle_Sprint if that’s the best way to contact you when we arrive. | 16:59 |
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manishg | rkukura: done | 17:00 |
rkukura | We are out of time | 17:00 |
rkukura | Thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
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Sukhdev_ | Thanks everybody | 17:00 |
manishg | thanks! | 17:00 |
rkukura | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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yamahata | thanks | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 17:00:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-30-16.02.html | 17:00 |
rkukura | bye | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-30-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-30-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
scheuran | bye | 17:00 |
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timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 17:02:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
timsim | Hey, who's here? | 17:02 |
jmcbride | o/ | 17:02 |
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mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
elarson | o/ | 17:02 |
pglass | o/ | 17:02 |
ram_att | o/ | 17:02 |
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james_li | james li | 17:03 |
timsim | #chairs mugsie | 17:03 |
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* timsim doesn't know if that worked | 17:03 | |
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timsim | #topic Annoucements | 17:03 |
mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
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mugsie | nope | 17:03 |
timsim | #chair mugsie | 17:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: mugsie timsim | 17:03 |
mugsie | go for it timsim | 17:03 |
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timsim | aha | 17:03 |
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timsim | Anyone have any annoucements? | 17:03 |
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Kiall | o/ | 17:04 |
mpbnka | o/ | 17:04 |
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timsim | Silence means no :P | 17:04 |
Kiall | Yep :) | 17:04 |
timsim | #topic action items from last week | 17:04 |
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timsim | kiall / mugsie ... actions from 2 weeks back! | 17:04 |
mugsie | push from me | 17:05 |
Kiall | Still not yet :( Sorry, been literally mad here | 17:05 |
timsim | yeah I think those are the bug validations | 17:05 |
mugsie | they are | 17:05 |
timsim | #action Kiall / mugsie to do actions from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-09-16.59.log.html | 17:06 |
mugsie | kiall to validate 1487934 | 17:06 |
mugsie | mugsie to validate 1491248 and 1491348 | 17:06 |
mugsie | mugsie to validate 1493035 | 17:06 |
mugsie | kiall to file High+RC1 bugs for1) Fix multiple central + TLD caching issues...(need to file a bug for this) and 2) Fix zone-manager enabled tasks + sharding combination (need to file a bug..) | 17:06 |
timsim | federico3 to backport b153f66 / 21cec74 / 1594913 / 8277e96 / eea5c1e | 17:06 |
timsim | federico3: about? | 17:06 |
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timsim | kiall to backport 9c37d55 / 4a68605 / 0c034d1 (if possible) / ad180b4 | 17:06 |
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timsim | mugsie to backport 476980e | 17:06 |
Kiall | he's probably just off the last call and not on IRC | 17:06 |
mugsie | mine is done | 17:06 |
Kiall | I totally forgot :( | 17:07 |
timsim | Just saw him in the other room | 17:07 |
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mugsie | i think federico3 did ^^ | 17:07 |
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timsim | alright | 17:08 |
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federico3 | timsim: yep, the CRs are out | 17:08 |
timsim | #action kiall to backport 9c37d55 / 4a68605 / 0c034d1 (if possible) / ad180b4 | 17:08 |
timsim | Ok. so mugsie and federico3 did those. | 17:08 |
mugsie | #action cores to review backports | 17:08 |
timsim | moving on | 17:08 |
timsim | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:08 |
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timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1500867 | 17:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1500867 in Designate "Designate installation in Devstack results in Error" [Undecided,New] | 17:08 |
mugsie | that looks weird | 17:09 |
Kiall | A quick suggests user error? | 17:09 |
mugsie | yeah | 17:09 |
Kiall | (We do this many times a day in CI etc, it certainly works on master..) | 17:09 |
timsim | Looks like it | 17:09 |
mugsie | incomplete at the very least - need more info | 17:09 |
Kiall | Incomplete / need .. | 17:09 |
Kiall | beat me to it ;') | 17:09 |
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timsim | Yeah, I''ll do that and ask him to give it another go | 17:10 |
mugsie | OS / how devstack is running / etc | 17:10 |
timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1501221 | 17:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1501221 in Designate "using TokenEndpoint with the V1 client is broken" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Endre Karlson (endre-karlson) | 17:10 |
mugsie | H | 17:10 |
mugsie | (no milestone) | 17:11 |
timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1501392 | 17:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1501392 in Designate "Not able to add dns name when a new port is attached to existing Instance" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
timsim | This is the start of some interesting ones that seem to reference incomplete neutron work | 17:11 |
mpbnka | hi I added this bug | 17:11 |
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mugsie | mpbnka: is this from sink? | 17:12 |
mpbnka | yes | 17:12 |
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mugsie | ok, we will need the sink handlers you are using. | 17:12 |
ram_att | I looked into the code with mpbnka | 17:12 |
ram_att | this is nova.py | 17:12 |
mugsie | ah | 17:12 |
mugsie | yeah | 17:12 |
ram_att | we have to add another event to this | 17:13 |
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ram_att | port.update.end | 17:13 |
ram_att | and handle it | 17:13 |
Kiall | ram_att: ah - makes sense, is that something you guys are going to add? | 17:13 |
mugsie | can you update the ticket with details of what you found? | 17:13 |
ram_att | yes | 17:13 |
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mpbnka | ok | 17:13 |
ram_att | yeah sure | 17:13 |
mugsie | and if you are going to add the code, we can assign it to you | 17:13 |
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ram_att | I am going to add the code for this | 17:14 |
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ram_att | please assign this to me | 17:14 |
mugsie | ram_att: what is your launchpad name? | 17:14 |
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ram_att | ramsateesh-talari | 17:14 |
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timsim | Cool. ram_att: Would you like similar treatment for the other two bugs filed? | 17:14 |
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ram_att | yes | 17:14 |
ram_att | for detach bug I am still debugging it | 17:15 |
ram_att | neutron doesn't post port.update events | 17:15 |
ram_att | it directly goes for delete | 17:15 |
ram_att | we probably have to look fro something in nova | 17:15 |
timsim | Cool, I'll mark those as needing more info pending your updates, and we can revisit. | 17:15 |
ram_att | ok | 17:15 |
mugsie | ++ | 17:15 |
ram_att | I'll keep adding the comments as I find something useful on the bugs | 17:16 |
timsim | Moving on to the client | 17:16 |
timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1499539 | 17:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1499539 in python-designateclient "No output on certain v2 commands" [Undecided,New] | 17:16 |
mugsie | H | 17:16 |
mugsie | triaged | 17:16 |
timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1499541 | 17:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1499541 in python-designateclient "The v2 zone transfer request create command should not require the target project id" [Undecided,New] | 17:16 |
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mugsie | same | 17:16 |
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timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1499867 | 17:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1499867 in python-designateclient "Remove the name argument for recordset updates" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
mugsie | same | 17:17 |
mugsie | :) | 17:17 |
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mugsie | pglass is good at finding little annoying things | 17:17 |
timsim | andd https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1500604 | 17:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1500604 in python-designateclient "Pattern argument is required on updating a blacklist" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
mugsie | as above | 17:17 |
Kiall | Side Bar - I should have mentioned this earlier. Use the "liberty-rc-potential" label on bugs we want to fix in L! https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential | 17:18 |
timsim | done :) | 17:18 |
mugsie | :) | 17:18 |
timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:18 |
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Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/474896/ | 17:18 |
Kiall | Slight twist this time and from now on | 17:19 |
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Kiall | we have Kilo and Liberty backports ;) | 17:19 |
Kiall | Anyway - Take a few, nominate anything in need of a backport - including to what releases | 17:19 |
Kiall | 6e45b7c Ensure recordset name checking accounts for child domains | 17:19 |
Kiall | 9c37d55 Ensure blacklists complete in a reasonable time | 17:19 |
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Kiall | ^ both of those to KIlo | 17:20 |
mugsie | abfc3c0 Merge "Fix #1494799 handle limit=max on v2 and Admin APIs" | 17:20 |
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Kiall | I *think* federico3 already BP'd that... I think | 17:20 |
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federico3 | checking | 17:20 |
Kiall | thanks | 17:20 |
Kiall | Okay - Any others? | 17:21 |
mugsie | dont think so | 17:21 |
Kiall | Any takers to BP ^ 2 (or 3)? | 17:21 |
federico3 | (yes it is) | 17:21 |
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federico3 | o/ | 17:22 |
Kiall | mugsie: how about you? I already have a list from last week to do ;) | 17:22 |
mugsie | K - federico3 it is | 17:22 |
mugsie | :) | 17:22 |
federico3 | 6e45b7c, 9c37d55, abfc3c0 to Kilo | 17:22 |
timsim | #action federico3 one to backport 6e45b7c 9c37d55 abfc3c0 to Kilo | 17:22 |
timsim | don't know how "one" snuck in there | 17:22 |
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mugsie | whats a federico3 one ? | 17:22 |
mugsie | :D | 17:22 |
Kiall | lol | 17:22 |
Kiall | thanks federico3 | 17:23 |
timsim | #action mugsie to suck it | 17:23 |
timsim | #topic assert:follows-standard-deprication | 17:23 |
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timsim | over to mugsie :) | 17:23 |
Kiall | timsim: you don't get "power" much, do you? ;) | 17:23 |
mugsie | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html | 17:23 |
timsim | :P | 17:23 |
mugsie | basically - do we want to sign up as doing this | 17:23 |
mugsie | and have it recorded | 17:23 |
mugsie | it is very close to what we do now to be honest | 17:24 |
Kiall | "It uses an automated test to verify that configuration files are forward-compatible from release to release and that this policy is not accidentally broken (for example, a gating grenade test)." | 17:24 |
Kiall | That's one we don't, but probably should do.. | 17:24 |
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mugsie | yeah | 17:24 |
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Kiall | And, will take us a while to do + get right.. | 17:24 |
timsim | Esp with pool -> db stuff | 17:25 |
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mugsie | I think if we are bound by ^ it will not allow us to let things fall through the cracks | 17:25 |
mugsie | we dont have to decide right now | 17:25 |
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mugsie | I just wanted it on peoples radar | 17:25 |
Kiall | makes sense | 17:26 |
mugsie | so, if everyone can have a read, we can come back to it in a few weeks | 17:26 |
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timsim | Cool. | 17:26 |
mugsie | I will send a ML email as well | 17:26 |
timsim | #action Everyone read/understand http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html | 17:26 |
Kiall | folks, I've got to run to another call - will be multitasking the rest of the meet | 17:26 |
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timsim | #action mugsie to add assert:follows-standard-deprication to a future agenda | 17:27 |
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timsim | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update | 17:27 |
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timsim | I believe mugsie has this update | 17:27 |
mugsie | yup | 17:27 |
mugsie | no patch was pushed last night, with reverse IPs in the correct tenant | 17:28 |
mugsie | new patch* | 17:28 |
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mugsie | the requirements for the Tokyo demo are in place. there is a new patch coming that will add the ablity to turn the FIP stuff on and off | 17:28 |
mugsie | FIP reverse IPs even | 17:29 |
mugsie | that is the update :) | 17:29 |
timsim | Sounds pretty good | 17:29 |
timsim | #topic Liberty Release | 17:29 |
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mugsie | eh - Kiall ? | 17:29 |
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mugsie | OK | 17:30 |
mugsie | he is not multitasking :) | 17:30 |
mugsie | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 17:30 |
mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential | 17:31 |
mugsie | any one know of any other bugs that should be added to that list ? | 17:31 |
mugsie | .... | 17:32 |
mugsie | ? | 17:32 |
ram_att | please add 1501392 | 17:32 |
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ram_att | 1501394 and 1501396 | 17:32 |
mugsie | ram_att: I am not sure that is not an RC worthy bug | 17:32 |
mugsie | Kiall: ^ | 17:32 |
ram_att | ok | 17:33 |
mugsie | seen as this is still under your PTL ship :) | 17:33 |
timsim | We can probably decide RC-worthiness when it's confirmed | 17:33 |
mugsie | yeah | 17:33 |
timsim | I don't think there are any others to add to rc-potential right now | 17:33 |
mugsie | I don't know of any personally | 17:34 |
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mugsie | I think we are done with Liberty (and that old lame duck PTL :P ) | 17:34 |
timsim | But we should be testing the RC when we can to see if there's anything else :) | 17:34 |
mugsie | yeah | 17:34 |
timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:35 |
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mugsie | can everyone test the current RC1 build? | 17:35 |
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mugsie | Tokyo - can everyone update the etherpad? | 17:35 |
Kiall | I'm useless at multitasking - still need an answer? ;) | 17:35 |
timsim | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-design-summit-tokyo | 17:35 |
mugsie | Kiall: no | 17:35 |
mugsie | :D | 17:35 |
timsim | Nah we moved on without you Kiall | 17:35 |
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Kiall | Good! | 17:36 |
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mugsie | cool - I think we should review the list this meeting next week? | 17:36 |
mugsie | so you have 7 days | 17:36 |
mugsie | :D | 17:36 |
timsim | Cool :) | 17:36 |
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mugsie | and talk + workshop - timsim elarson we should sync up | 17:36 |
mugsie | thats all I have | 17:37 |
elarson | indeed! | 17:37 |
timsim | We should have some time next week, hopefully :) | 17:37 |
mugsie | cool | 17:37 |
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mugsie | I will shoot an email | 17:37 |
timsim | Does anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss? | 17:37 |
mugsie | 3 | 17:38 |
mugsie | 2 | 17:38 |
mugsie | 1 | 17:38 |
federico3 | .5 | 17:38 |
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mugsie | 0 | 17:38 |
timsim | #endmeeting | 17:38 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:38 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 17:38:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:38 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-30-17.02.html | 17:38 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-30-17.02.txt | 17:38 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-30-17.02.log.html | 17:38 |
timsim | bye guise | 17:38 |
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mugsie | o/ | 17:38 |
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federico3 | o/ | 17:39 |
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mpbnka | o/ | 17:40 |
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ram_att | I am new here, how do I update etherpad and what do I update? | 17:46 |
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cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 18:00:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
amrith | ./ | 18:00 |
cp16net | howdy everyone | 18:00 |
amrith | howdy cp16net ... | 18:00 |
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amrith | just you and me for now | 18:00 |
SlickNik | hey — 'sup people! | 18:01 |
amrith | quick, let's make some decisions | 18:01 |
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cp16net | i'll give a little time for people to trickle in | 18:01 |
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amrith | we should start charging for tardiness | 18:02 |
cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
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peterstac | o/ | 18:03 |
edmondk | o/ | 18:03 |
dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:03 |
dloi | o/ | 18:03 |
schang | o/ | 18:03 |
danritchie | \o/ | 18:03 |
vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
cp16net | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:04 |
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cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:04 |
cp16net | reviews are pretty steady for the last 3 weeks between 70-80 | 18:05 |
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vkmc | o/ | 18:05 |
atomic77 | o/ | 18:05 |
cp16net | any other comments around this? | 18:06 |
peterstac | I'm still working on the graph - should have something by the end of the meeting ;) | 18:06 |
cp16net | peterstac: awesome that leads to the next topic i have | 18:07 |
cp16net | #Action items | 18:07 |
cp16net | #topic Action items | 18:07 |
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cp16net | - cp16net look into troveclient tempest gate failures | 18:07 |
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cp16net | i got the gate working again for troveclient | 18:07 |
peterstac | ah, cool | 18:08 |
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cp16net | it wasnt hard but it was similar to the saharaclient issues | 18:08 |
cp16net | so it was pretty easy to resolve | 18:08 |
cp16net | - peterstac put together a graph for week over week | 18:08 |
cp16net | sounds like peterstac may have something to show off by the end of the meeting:-D | 18:09 |
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cp16net | moving along... | 18:09 |
cp16net | #topic Bugs that could be back ported for Liberty | 18:09 |
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cp16net | so i've identified a few bugs that could be backported to liberty | 18:10 |
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cp16net | - [trove] Fix promote for Redis datastore | 18:10 |
cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226075/ | 18:11 |
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cp16net | so this is a fix redis | 18:11 |
peterstac | Yeah, I dropped the ball on that one - I should have mentioned it last week when SlickNik asked about potential candidates ... | 18:11 |
cp16net | is there any concerns around proposing this one to liberty? | 18:11 |
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peterstac | It involves promote leaving the slaves in a detached state, because the redis python client doesn't interpret None as none | 18:12 |
peterstac | (you need to set it to '') | 18:12 |
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dougshelley66 | looks like no concerns | 18:12 |
peterstac | I think it should go in liberty :D | 18:12 |
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cp16net | ok with overwhelming majority we'll get that one in | 18:13 |
cp16net | - [trove] Fix publish_exists_event authentication exception | 18:13 |
cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228696/ | 18:13 |
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cp16net | i thought about this one as well after dougshelley66 was working on it | 18:13 |
dougshelley66 | i'm fine with that - no one has posted a review on it | 18:14 |
cp16net | (i'm still working on testing it) | 18:14 |
dougshelley66 | in the end, it turned out to be a pretty simple fix | 18:14 |
amrith | looks good to me | 18:14 |
dougshelley66 | in novaclient - project_id is for the tenant_name | 18:14 |
dougshelley66 | so we shouldn't use that | 18:14 |
cp16net | yeah this will allow deployers to get the events we send out | 18:14 |
cp16net | so i think this should be a high priority | 18:15 |
peterstac | looks good to me too | 18:15 |
edmondk | yeah I think it's fine as well | 18:15 |
cp16net | next one... | 18:15 |
cp16net | - [troveclient] Accepting network and availability zone for instances in cluster | 18:15 |
cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184349/ | 18:15 |
cp16net | this isnt a trove fix but to the troveclient | 18:15 |
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SlickNik | cp16net: The client release schedule is not tied to the openstack release schedule. | 18:17 |
cp16net | i believe that we can make a new version of the client to get this out that shouldnt nessearily require a backport to the stable/liberty branch | 18:17 |
cp16net | SlickNik: right i thought that was the case | 18:17 |
SlickNik | So perhaps we just cut a new client release after that bug is fixed. | 18:17 |
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cp16net | alright so are there any other bugs found that should be added to this list? | 18:18 |
SlickNik | yup — I don't think we'll need a backport for this. | 18:18 |
peterstac | SlickNik +1 | 18:18 |
cp16net | dougshelley66: i noticed there were a few other ones that you mentioned that maybe related to the notifications. | 18:19 |
SlickNik | cp16net: we usually do an updated release of translations as well if we are going to cut a new RC> | 18:19 |
SlickNik | So we might want to do that. | 18:19 |
SlickNik | Other than think — that set of bugs looks reasonable. | 18:19 |
cp16net | SlickNik: ok | 18:19 |
dougshelley66 | cp16net yes there are two other but i don't think we should push back to liberty. One has a workaround | 18:20 |
cp16net | dougshelley66: ok great | 18:20 |
cp16net | if there are any other bugs found that affect liberty let me know | 18:21 |
cp16net | alright next.... | 18:21 |
cp16net | #topic Mitaka Summit Design Sessions | 18:21 |
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cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-summit | 18:21 |
cp16net | we have some topic proposed here | 18:22 |
cp16net | awesome! | 18:22 |
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cp16net | i'm not sure if there is a deadline to have these published at least for the fishbowl sessions | 18:23 |
vkmc | :D | 18:23 |
cp16net | i need to find that out | 18:23 |
dougshelley66 | so on Mitaka summit - who is going? | 18:23 |
cp16net | o/ | 18:23 |
dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:23 |
amrith | ./ | 18:24 |
dougshelley66 | ah good we need someone to buy beer | 18:24 |
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vkmc | o/ | 18:24 |
imandhan | o/ | 18:24 |
atomic77 | o/ | 18:24 |
peterstac | o/ | 18:24 |
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schang | o/ | 18:25 |
cp16net | edmondk: and SlickNik will be there | 18:25 |
edmondk | o/ | 18:25 |
edmondk | will be there | 18:25 |
amrith | vipul said he'd be there. he offered to buy beers. | 18:25 |
dougshelley66 | it's about time.... | 18:26 |
SlickNik | cp16net: There is a deadline, but we have another 1-2 weeks I think. | 18:26 |
cp16net | #action cp16net find out if there is a deadline for fishbowl sessions | 18:26 |
SlickNik | I'll totally be there. | 18:26 |
cp16net | :) | 18:26 |
cp16net | alright excited to see all your faces again | 18:27 |
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cp16net | moving along... | 18:27 |
cp16net | #topic Assert follows standard deprication | 18:27 |
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dougshelley66 | s/deprication/deprecation/ | 18:27 |
* amrith doesn't understand what that means. | 18:28 | |
cp16net | so there is a new tag that we can decide to follow or not | 18:28 |
cp16net | this will verify that config parameters are depricated in a standard fashion | 18:28 |
amrith | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html | 18:28 |
amrith | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html | 18:28 |
cp16net | forgive my speeling | 18:28 |
cp16net | amrith: thanks for the link | 18:29 |
amrith | for-given | 18:29 |
dougshelley66 | so are we following these requirements now? | 18:29 |
cp16net | i think we've done a great job so far following this | 18:29 |
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cp16net | mainly beacuse we only add and dont change the meaning of the configs | 18:29 |
amrith | have we ever actually deprecated anything? | 18:30 |
cp16net | amrith: maybe one config a long time ago in a galaxy far far away | 18:30 |
cp16net | :-P | 18:30 |
dougshelley66 | what about having an automated test to for fwd compat of config files? | 18:30 |
amrith | cp16net, I have seen us move things in a config file from [DEFAULT] to a better place but we've never actually (that I know of) deprecated the old one. | 18:31 |
cp16net | applying this tag would gate on this from happening | 18:31 |
SlickNik | amrith: We've removed some internal APIs that were deprecated more than a couple of releases, I think. | 18:31 |
amrith | SlickNik, thanks, wasn't aware of that. | 18:31 |
cp16net | thats a good point moving the configs around may be a violation of this | 18:31 |
amrith | if we're compliant with this, is there a downside in asserting the tag? | 18:31 |
SlickNik | cp16net: I think we have some work to be done here if we want to apply this tag | 18:31 |
SlickNik | specifically reading - | 18:32 |
SlickNik | 'It uses an automated test to verify that configuration files are forward-compatible from release to release and that this policy is not accidentally broken (for example, a gating grenade test)." | 18:32 |
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SlickNik | I don't think we have anything like this yet. | 18:32 |
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cp16net | yeah i agree its something to think about | 18:32 |
cp16net | this is meant help with deployers during an upgrade | 18:33 |
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SlickNik | We've been following this tag in spirit, but we would need to author upgrade test jobs to actually verify this. | 18:33 |
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SlickNik | How new is this tag? | 18:34 |
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cp16net | i saw it this past week | 18:34 |
cp16net | Note: No projects are using assert:follows-standard-deprecation, yet. | 18:34 |
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cp16net | something we could talk/think about for the future | 18:34 |
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cp16net | ok thats all i had on that topic | 18:35 |
cp16net | more for info | 18:35 |
amrith | what are the next steps on this? | 18:35 |
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cp16net | we need to look more into this | 18:36 |
amrith | I'm proposing a session at mid-cycle as we speak | 18:36 |
cp16net | and determine what the steps are | 18:36 |
amrith | my speeling isn't all that good | 18:36 |
vkmc | is there a place with a listing of the new tags? | 18:36 |
cp16net | vkmc: i just saw this on the mailing list | 18:36 |
vkmc | cp16net, fair enough | 18:37 |
cp16net | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/ | 18:37 |
amrith | vkmc: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/index.html | 18:37 |
cp16net | that looks like more | 18:37 |
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cp16net | i have not personally looked into them yet just sharing | 18:38 |
cp16net | alright moving on.... | 18:38 |
amrith | we should at least assert http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/release_has-stable-branches.html | 18:38 |
vkmc | amrith, thx! | 18:38 |
amrith | has-stable-branches ;) | 18:38 |
amrith | oh, sorry, we do | 18:38 |
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amrith | not an alphabetical list ;( | 18:39 |
cp16net | hah yeap | 18:39 |
cp16net | #topic Open Discussion | 18:39 |
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cp16net | anyone have anything else to add? | 18:39 |
amrith | cp16net, I'd like to know whether it is ok to put in a shameless plug for my candidacy for election to the TC [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229073/] here? Yes/No? | 18:39 |
cp16net | to late. | 18:39 |
cp16net | :-P | 18:39 |
amrith | is that a yes? | 18:40 |
cp16net | sure | 18:40 |
amrith | OK thanks, here's a shameless plug for my candidacy for election to the TC [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229073/]. Election is Oct 2 to Oct 9th. | 18:40 |
amrith | ;) | 18:40 |
SlickNik | ++ | 18:40 |
edmondk | ^ thats a broken link | 18:40 |
amrith | I think the TC could do with some more representation from the non-core projects | 18:40 |
cp16net | remove the ] at the end | 18:40 |
edmondk | or nm I dont have permissino to view this page | 18:40 |
SlickNik | works for me | 18:40 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229073/ | 18:41 |
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amrith | "As OpenStack evolves, so too should the Technical Committee. I believe | 18:41 |
amrith | that the Technical Committee has a very high representation from the | 18:41 |
amrith | core (nova, cinder, swift, glance, neutron, ...) projects, and there | 18:41 |
amrith | needs to be more representation of the other projects in OpenStack | 18:41 |
amrith | that are not part of this core (trove, sahara, ...). I believe that | 18:41 |
amrith | the future success of OpenStack depends heavily on the successful | 18:41 |
amrith | integration of these non-core projects, and the ease with which people | 18:41 |
amrith | can deploy the core and non-core components of OpenStack." | 18:41 |
amrith | </shameless-plug> | 18:41 |
cp16net | awesome amrith | 18:42 |
amrith | Thanks cp16net | 18:42 |
cp16net | anyone have anything else? | 18:42 |
cp16net | peterstac: have something to show off? :-? | 18:42 |
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peterstac | I have some graphs - where should I put them? | 18:43 |
cp16net | whats easiest for you for now | 18:43 |
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* cp16net imagines peterstac is running around like a crazy person right now :-P | 18:44 | |
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pmalik | cp16net, he is actually sitting... | 18:45 |
cp16net | lol but in my head hes running around his chair in circles getting dizzy | 18:45 |
cp16net | :) | 18:45 |
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cp16net | i guess if there is nothing else we can call this meeting | 18:46 |
pmalik | Was just wondering if it would be possible to get few more eyes on the last three remaining int-test patch sets? | 18:46 |
pmalik | It would be great if ppl could actually start using them. :-) | 18:46 |
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cp16net | peterstac: can show us in the the trove channel. | 18:46 |
amrith | can we share images in IRC? | 18:47 |
peterstac | Well, I have some .jpg files - if there's nowhere to put them ... | 18:47 |
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cp16net | you can link them | 18:47 |
vkmc | you can upload them to imgur? | 18:47 |
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cp16net | some clients show them and others can click them | 18:47 |
peterstac | to my hard drive ? ;) | 18:47 |
SlickNik | amrith: not easily | 18:48 |
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SlickNik | many clients support sending images to specific people via DCC | 18:48 |
SlickNik | I guess you could imgur it and post a link. | 18:48 |
peterstac | #link http://imgur.com/a/YS2m7 | 18:49 |
amrith | ok, peterstac what about just putting them on the agenda page for this meeting? | 18:49 |
amrith | or that ;) | 18:49 |
cp16net | cool | 18:49 |
cp16net | thanks peterstac | 18:49 |
peterstac | amrith, I tried that, couldn't figure it out quickly | 18:49 |
vkmc | nice graphics | 18:49 |
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cp16net | thanks everyone | 18:49 |
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cp16net | #endmeeting | 18:49 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 18:49:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-30-18.00.html | 18:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-30-18.00.txt | 18:49 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-30-18.00.log.html | 18:49 |
peterstac | The only thing that jumps out is that the open changesets keep growing | 18:49 |
vkmc | thanks all, thanks cp16net | 18:49 |
amrith | thx! | 18:50 |
vkmc | peterstac, yeah :o | 18:50 |
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Rockyg | folks, I need some quick gerrit help. git review -s returns "we don't know where your gerrit is. Please manually create a remote named "gerrit" and try again." | 19:08 |
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Rockyg | Oops. Wrong channel... | 19:09 |
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blogan | \\o// | 20:00 |
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madhu_ak | o/ | 20:00 |
blogan | i have 4 arms | 20:00 |
rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 20:00:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
rm_work | that is a lot of arms | 20:00 |
blallau | Hi | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:01 |
sbalukoff | Howdy, folks! | 20:01 |
minwang2 | o/ | 20:01 |
bharathm | o/ | 20:01 |
johnsom | Someone ate their wheaties this morning | 20:01 |
xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
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crc32 | o=/ | 20:01 |
ajmiller | hi | 20:01 |
blogan | chemically infused wheaties | 20:01 |
crc32 | hello | 20:01 |
xgerman | Mitaka design summit topics #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 20:01 |
xgerman | please add, +1, etc. if something is interesting to you | 20:02 |
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sbalukoff | Sweet. | 20:02 |
bana_k | hi | 20:02 |
xgerman | oh, and for those under a rock: amax is the new Neutron PTL | 20:02 |
xgerman | armax | 20:02 |
blogan | all hail our new overlord | 20:03 |
armax | aye | 20:03 |
rm_work | heh | 20:03 |
xgerman | not sure if dougwig can cling on to be a lt in the new regime | 20:03 |
sbalukoff | Haha! Welcome! | 20:03 |
TrevorV | Thanks... us rock people have trouble getting those updates | 20:03 |
rm_work | I did miss the official results, but cool | 20:03 |
dougwig | xgerman is my biggest fan. | 20:03 |
xgerman | if that’s all it took a lot of people would be lt. | 20:03 |
johnsom | He is already helping us out with the Octavia release | 20:04 |
armax | I am dougwig’s proxy | 20:04 |
armax | he’s the one really pulling the strings | 20:04 |
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xgerman | welcome - all bow | 20:04 |
xgerman | \me bows | 20:04 |
johnsom | armax I am so sorry. He really does like to make people dance.... | 20:04 |
* TrevorV laughs at xgerman and his failed bowings | 20:04 | |
sbalukoff | You're Bush to dougwig's Cheney? ;) | 20:05 |
armax | johnsom: no need, that was the plan all along :) | 20:05 |
xgerman | sbalukoff lol | 20:05 |
TrevorV | We've fallen right into their trap! | 20:05 |
* dougwig cries in the corner. | 20:05 | |
* blogan watches | 20:05 | |
sbalukoff | Seriously though-- great to have you on board, and thanks for attending this meeting today, eh! | 20:05 |
johnsom | +1 | 20:05 |
sballe | o/ | 20:05 |
xgerman | +! | 20:06 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:06 |
crc32 | o/= | 20:06 |
blogan | yes thanks for attending this meeting and the countless others | 20:06 |
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xgerman | #topic Tagging our release + packaging | 20:06 |
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johnsom | So we ran into some trouble getting the octavia release up on pypi | 20:07 |
xgerman | johnsom was working with mestery on getting us into pypi | 20:07 |
xgerman | trouble? | 20:07 |
johnsom | Evidently the octavia repository wasn't quite setup right (no stares in any direction) | 20:07 |
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* rm_work has no idea how pypi really works internally | 20:08 | |
johnsom | But, we got some help from infra this morning and I have patches up to fix those. | 20:08 |
* TrevorV shares rm_work 's lack of knowledge here | 20:08 | |
xgerman | rm_work magic? | 20:08 |
blogan | johnsom: patches in infra? | 20:08 |
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johnsom | We are just waiting on the infra patch to go in | 20:08 |
johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229518/ | 20:08 |
sbalukoff | Cool. | 20:08 |
xgerman | link? so we can all +1 to show our support and gartitude | 20:08 |
xgerman | gratitude | 20:08 |
johnsom | Octavia is up on pypi now, but it is just the initial push I did when setting it up. | 20:09 |
xgerman | well, does this mean we are still sort in a code freeze? | 20:09 |
johnsom | In theory yes, as I expect there will need to be another tag added to the repo to get it through the OpenStack release process | 20:10 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: Can you broadcast loudly in channel when that tag happens? | 20:10 |
johnsom | Sure can. | 20:10 |
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sbalukoff | Danke! | 20:11 |
xgerman | also once we have Octavia in pypi who will test that it actually works? | 20:11 |
xgerman | fnaval? | 20:11 |
johnsom | mestery or armax will actually push the button, but I am trying to follow along | 20:11 |
* xgerman thinks johnsom would make a great release manager | 20:11 | |
johnsom | Oye | 20:11 |
sbalukoff | Let's vote on it! ;) | 20:11 |
sballe | +1 | 20:11 |
blogan | the customary vote | 20:12 |
sbalukoff | +1 | 20:12 |
minwang2 | +1 | 20:12 |
johnsom | Just for dougwig | 20:12 |
sbalukoff | That's 4 of us. Congratulations, johnsom. | 20:12 |
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johnsom | Is that even a role? | 20:12 |
TrevorV | Is now | 20:13 |
blogan | sounds official | 20:13 |
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xgerman | doesn’t neutron has a release team? | 20:13 |
crc32 | yea its called blogan upstream | 20:13 |
sbalukoff | Haha | 20:13 |
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dougwig | this meeting is a tad wandering. | 20:14 |
xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:14 |
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blogan | yes it has | 20:14 |
johnsom | So, as release manager, what is going to be in next weeks release? hmmm??? | 20:14 |
blogan | has rc2 been cut? | 20:14 |
blogan | or deadline past for that? | 20:15 |
johnsom | Release stuff above and any little bug fixes we have needed for liberty. I also put up google docs to get us started on our Tokyo presentations. | 20:15 |
sbalukoff | I have a first draft of the blueprint the IBM research team wants to use to add active+active and auto-scale to Octavia, hopefully in Mitaka. I want to do a small revision of it before putting it in front of the group, and that team is on vacation right now anyway... so expect to see it around mid next-week. | 20:15 |
blogan | i think this one is worth getting into liberty | 20:15 |
blogan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210968 | 20:15 |
xgerman | yeah!! we have an extra Tokyo topic | 20:15 |
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blogan | ajmiller: i added tests for it ^ hope you dont mind | 20:16 |
sbalukoff | And yes, I'll add that to the list for the design session. | 20:16 |
ajmiller | blogan: not at all! | 20:16 |
bana_k | heat hooks BP is up but still wip, needs to cross check some parameter with the api doc. | 20:16 |
xgerman | great bana_k | 20:16 |
johnsom | blogan I tagged that as an RC candidate. I agree it would be good to get in | 20:16 |
sbalukoff | bana_k: Awesome! | 20:16 |
blogan | johnsom: oh great | 20:16 |
bana_k | api doc is not entirely correct so reviewing it n raising bugs. | 20:17 |
xgerman | thanks | 20:17 |
bana_k | thanks :) | 20:17 |
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sbalukoff | Apologies it's taking me so long to get the stupid docs updated. And yes, johnsom, if it's not in gerrit it doesn't exist. I'll try to correct that this week. | 20:17 |
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johnsom | Grin | 20:18 |
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xgerman | I need to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227912/ — maybe paying some voodoo master | 20:18 |
sbalukoff | Otherwise, I'm just waiting for the go-ahead on release tagging to start guilting you into reviewing the Neutron-LBaaS shared pool code and L7 stuff that Evgeny has been working on. ;) | 20:19 |
xgerman | yeah, we want L7 in Mitaka | 20:19 |
xgerman | I think blogan and I need to do some work in LP for milestones, etc. | 20:19 |
blogan | xgerman: sure | 20:19 |
sbalukoff | Cool beans! | 20:19 |
johnsom | Also, I put a global requirements change in to exclude coverage 4.0 as it breaks our unit tests in bad/strange ways. | 20:20 |
johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228581/ | 20:20 |
blogan | also noop driver fixes that we might use for some tests, but even if we dont at least this allow them to work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229262/ | 20:20 |
xgerman | NICE | 20:20 |
xgerman | should we aim to get that in Octavia RC2 (are we doing an RC?) | 20:21 |
johnsom | Upstream bug against coverage is here: | 20:21 |
johnsom | #link https://bitbucket.org/ned/coveragepy/issues/416/coverage-40-is-causing-existing-unit-tests | 20:21 |
minwang2 | i still have one unit test for cert rotation #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215359/ | 20:22 |
blogan | xgerman: that one's isn't too important, so i wouldn't fight for it | 20:22 |
blogan | if its easy enough, then sure | 20:22 |
xgerman | well, we are still cutting so... | 20:22 |
xgerman | any other progress? | 20:23 |
minwang2 | also need to address some update for octavia doc patches #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/ #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/ | 20:23 |
xgerman | yes, docs are real important — please review | 20:23 |
sbalukoff | +1 | 20:23 |
xgerman | #action review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/ | 20:24 |
TrevorV | minwang2, links need to be on separate lines for the bot to pick them up | 20:24 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/ | 20:24 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/ | 20:24 |
TrevorV | I gotchu though :) | 20:24 |
minwang2 | Trevor thanks! | 20:24 |
xgerman | dougwig wonder if there is some more step—by-step guide w need to write | 20:24 |
xgerman | also sbalukoff you said you were working on that | 20:25 |
crc32 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218735/ | 20:25 |
crc32 | ^^ can I get a review too? | 20:25 |
xgerman | sure | 20:25 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: If I need to, I'll make my patch dependent on Min's. | 20:25 |
xgerman | #action review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218735/ | 20:25 |
xgerman | sbalukoff I saw Min’s docs but I also got asked in IRC for a more like deployment guide | 20:25 |
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sbalukoff | xgerman: Yep, that's what I'm working on. | 20:26 |
xgerman | awesome | 20:26 |
xgerman | ok, any other progress? | 20:27 |
sbalukoff | Sounds like a "nope" to me. :) | 20:27 |
xgerman | #topic Octavia talk | 20:27 |
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TrevorV | I can't add here, honestly... Been doing internal stuffs :( | 20:27 |
sbalukoff | TrevorV: I hear you. | 20:27 |
xgerman | so we are still looking for a sponsor for the USB drive ... | 20:27 |
TrevorV | Also I won't be able to go to Tokyo... so enjoy it without me guys :'( | 20:28 |
xgerman | too bad… they should have just chartered a plane | 20:28 |
sbalukoff | Oh! I suppose it's worth mentioning that I'm in the stages of making sure the legal paperwork is right with the OpenStack Foundation to assign the 'Octavia' trademark to them. So... yay! | 20:28 |
blogan | sbalukoff: thats great news! | 20:28 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:28 |
sbalukoff | So, sometime in 2017, the USPTO will likely have finished reviewing that same paperwork and the trademark will officially transfer! ;) | 20:28 |
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xgerman | you used the IBM lawyers? | 20:29 |
TrevorV | ha ha ha ha | 20:29 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: Yep. | 20:29 |
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xgerman | Nice | 20:29 |
rm_work | heh | 20:29 |
johnsom | Doc for the hands on lab: | 20:29 |
johnsom | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/12x6Xc6ktopg9mhxz7yqp_VsFTTqVRxJ_PtZlvzb0xPU/edit?usp=sharing | 20:29 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: Didn't have a choice. This would have been easier had the USPTO moved faster than IBM's acquisition team (ie. if this were still only under Blue Box), but... such is life. | 20:29 |
xgerman | yeah, but glad it’;s happening... | 20:30 |
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sbalukoff | Yep, me too! | 20:30 |
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johnsom | Slides for the presentation: | 20:30 |
johnsom | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PYBLtNrkyg__FjyZ2ywynNv-22FW88hDz5j9q8W1ZOQ/edit?usp=sharing | 20:30 |
xgerman | so USB sticks? We can also put up a donation box at the session... | 20:30 |
johnsom | Not much progress on either yet. | 20:30 |
crc32 | sbalukoff: Or the project gets renamed. | 20:30 |
xgerman | hah | 20:30 |
rm_work | heh how much do those cost | 20:31 |
rm_work | for however many we need | 20:31 |
rm_work | did we figure out what size we'd need minimum? | 20:31 |
crc32 | and how big do they need to be? | 20:31 |
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sbalukoff | crc32: That's what I had to demonstrate to the IBM lawyers in exquisite detail and my usual... er... coloful language. | 20:31 |
sbalukoff | ;) | 20:31 |
johnsom | I think we can fit in 8GB | 20:31 |
rm_work | johnsom: we need a new road image | 20:31 |
crc32 | cool. Ho many usb sticks? | 20:31 |
xgerman | 8GB are $7 at staples | 20:31 |
johnsom | Let me know if you want edit rights. | 20:31 |
johnsom | rm_work accepting suggestions | 20:32 |
rm_work | xgerman: yeah but I assume we can get a bulk discount :P | 20:32 |
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rm_work | johnsom: something with less clouds | 20:32 |
rm_work | johnsom: it looks like a stormy road ahead | 20:32 |
rm_work | that sends a scary message :P | 20:32 |
xgerman | I was hoping some corporate marketing department would see that as a good use for their money | 20:32 |
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johnsom | rm_work hahahaha, I was thinking links.... | 20:32 |
rm_work | xgerman: how many do we need tho? | 20:33 |
johnsom | These images pre-date me | 20:33 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: I checked with my team. I think they're willing, but worried about the timeline to get it through red tape. | 20:33 |
crc32 | 28 dollars for 10 Gigs | 20:33 |
sbalukoff | Nobody here has any idea how many we need, right? :P | 20:33 |
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crc32 | 28 dollars for 10 8Gig sticks | 20:33 |
xgerman | I think the web page knows | 20:34 |
rm_work | johnsom: http://www.ewallpapers.eu/w_show/open-road-1920-1080-5092.jpg | 20:34 |
johnsom | I don't know how many we need. I can look and see how many people have already signed up, but that doesn't tell us the limit | 20:34 |
sbalukoff | Do we know how many seats the room will have? | 20:34 |
rm_work | right | 20:34 |
sbalukoff | I mean, maybe we'll pack the place, maybe we won't. | 20:34 |
minwang2 | rm_work nice pic | 20:34 |
rm_work | like how many could it possibly be | 20:34 |
sbalukoff | But it seems silly to bring more than that. | 20:34 |
rm_work | 100? | 20:34 |
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rm_work | johnsom: that seems more "laxidaisical" to me | 20:35 |
xgerman | it says limited | 20:35 |
rm_work | or however you spell that | 20:35 |
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xgerman | so far we have 10 signed up | 20:35 |
rm_work | johnsom: maybe http://alphatravelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/French-Roadtrip-Open-Road.jpg | 20:35 |
johnsom | We have 11 signed up right now | 20:35 |
sbalukoff | Well... as long as we have the image available for download someplace, I don't feel guilty about not having enough USB sticks. If you really want to check out Octavia you can download a friggen image. | 20:36 |
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blogan | yeah that sounds like the default solution, and usb stick is a backp | 20:36 |
rm_work | johnsom: did we get the actual rights to the last one or was it just google-image-search? | 20:36 |
blogan | backup | 20:36 |
rm_work | well, the internet AT the conference will not be great, it never is | 20:36 |
johnsom | rm_work again, pre-dates me | 20:36 |
rm_work | but just a couple to pass around would be fine for that | 20:36 |
blogan | just post the link to the image on a keynote slide, let everyone at the summit download it all at once | 20:37 |
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johnsom | Yeah, that is my worry. I don't want to count on good internet. | 20:37 |
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rm_work | actually, maybe it Tokyo it won't be too bad | 20:37 |
rm_work | like everyone there has gigabit i think | 20:37 |
sbalukoff | Right, so $28 for 10 of these sticks... and we're covered, eh? (Also, who doesn't have the ability to download this stuff? Are we expecting to hand a bunch of these out to Chinese citizens?) | 20:37 |
xgerman | as long as we put ti in a JP data center | 20:37 |
rm_work | closest we can get is like... Hong Kong | 20:38 |
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crc32 | I'm ordering 3 sets of 10. 22$ each | 20:38 |
blogan | alright plan needs some work it sounds like, but a direction in place | 20:38 |
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johnsom | Our CDN has a pop in Japan. I will load the image there | 20:38 |
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xgerman | awesome — so we have it all covered | 20:39 |
sbalukoff | crc32: Thanks, eh! | 20:39 |
rm_work | crc32: erk, k -- hopefully they reimburse you | 20:39 |
sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:39 |
xgerman | I can’t really see how we can’t expense that... | 20:39 |
crc32 | is 30 enough? | 20:39 |
crc32 | cause thats all I can afford now. | 20:39 |
rm_work | and/or I wonder if RAX has a vendor where we could get them cheaper and with RAX logo on them :P | 20:39 |
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sbalukoff | crc32: It sounds like it probably will be, yes. | 20:39 |
xgerman | yeah, let’s work the corporations again | 20:40 |
rm_work | crc32: i might wait just a moment at least and ask someone at RAX | 20:40 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:40 |
sbalukoff | +1 | 20:40 |
crc32 | When they arrive I'll hand them to rm_work since I lose things. :( | 20:40 |
rm_work | lol | 20:40 |
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sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:40 |
crc32 | you ask rm_work. its only 68$ | 20:40 |
johnsom | We need to get the image on them too | 20:40 |
rm_work | hopefully data rate from HK to JP is not far :P | 20:40 |
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crc32 | yea but you said you would load them in Tokyo. | 20:40 |
rm_work | err, hopefully data rate is good | 20:40 |
crc32 | I thought | 20:41 |
crc32 | or we can load them here. | 20:41 |
rm_work | yeah we'd want to pre-image them | 20:41 |
crc32 | I'm guessing were going to load them at the last second though. | 20:41 |
rm_work | pretty easy to do en-mass | 20:41 |
johnsom | It's a long plane flight, so whoever has them could image on the way.... grin | 20:41 |
sbalukoff | crc32: +1 | 20:41 |
TrevorV | I think rm_work would do that. | 20:41 |
crc32 | incase some last second patches make it in. | 20:41 |
TrevorV | He can't sleep regularly anyway | 20:41 |
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rm_work | I am so going to be taking ambien on the plane >_> | 20:41 |
xgerman | ok, I think we are all set | 20:42 |
xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:42 |
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dougwig | what part of this meeting hasn't been open discussion? :) | 20:42 |
xgerman | lol | 20:42 |
johnsom | Two or three minutes... | 20:43 |
xgerman | so moving the meeting time didn’t garner much support on the ML... | 20:43 |
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sbalukoff | dougwig: We are always on topic. The topic just likes to shift without a general notice to everyone. No our fault, eh. | 20:43 |
johnsom | If anyone knows Matt Riedemann at IBM you can ping him to remove his -1 from the global requirements update. He didn't ready the commit message. | 20:44 |
crc32 | rm_work are you gonna ask rax or do I just order them. I'm like ready to click shit to address. | 20:44 |
TrevorV | dougwig, you just upset that we young peeps keep up with the conversational flow and you have trouble with it :P | 20:44 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: I've no idea who that is... :/ | 20:44 |
xgerman | TrevorV dougwig - that’s how we roll | 20:44 |
blogan | doesn't this seem like an important patch to get into rc2? | 20:45 |
blogan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220654 | 20:45 |
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xgerman | yep | 20:45 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220654 | 20:45 |
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sbalukoff | Yeah. | 20:45 |
blogan | does it need a bug report in lp to get into rc2? | 20:45 |
johnsom | Could be. Do you all want me to tag it? That means we have to get on the reviews and get it merged..... | 20:46 |
johnsom | Yes | 20:46 |
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dougwig | TrevorV: get off my lawn. | 20:46 |
crc32 | forget this order then. Deliver estimate Oct 27 - Nov 13 | 20:46 |
xgerman | yeah, it might be the JP CDN | 20:47 |
TrevorV | dougwig, I found a snipe, and I followed it under your porch, but this snipe had a long tail, and looked more like a large mouse. | 20:47 |
rm_work | crc32: ah lol such slow | 20:48 |
blogan | back to octavia stuff, some of us discussed having a lot of the long running tests run the noop drivers so the tests run faster | 20:48 |
xgerman | yeah, we said API tests | 20:48 |
blogan | since they sometimes hit the timeout | 20:49 |
johnsom | Ah yes.... | 20:49 |
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johnsom | The new lower and variable timeout no less | 20:49 |
blogan | so is there an easy way to change what drivers the gate tests use? | 20:49 |
blogan | indeed | 20:49 |
blogan | easy = i can do it in octavia | 20:49 |
blogan | or does it require a change in infra | 20:49 |
johnsom | It goes in neutron-lbaas | 20:50 |
blogan | yeah tahts what i mean | 20:50 |
blogan | sorry | 20:50 |
xgerman | well, can’t we change the octavia.con easily? | 20:50 |
rm_work | it's possible to do with iniset in the gate-hook script | 20:50 |
xgerman | octavia.conf | 20:50 |
blogan | in gate_hook? | 20:50 |
blogan | yeah tahts what i thought | 20:50 |
xgerman | rm_work +1 | 20:50 |
johnsom | yep | 20:50 |
blogan | so that'll be ab it more involved that i hoped but i'll start on it | 20:50 |
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johnsom | It's really not that bad. | 20:50 |
blogan | me + bash = bad | 20:50 |
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blogan | but i gotta get better at it | 20:51 |
xgerman | ask rm_work to mentor you :-) | 20:51 |
johnsom | I can do it if you would prefer | 20:51 |
blogan | no, ill do it, im just complaining :) | 20:51 |
xgerman | ok, settled | 20:51 |
xgerman | meeting time? | 20:51 |
blogan | ending time? | 20:51 |
xgerman | I think we keep the slot... | 20:51 |
blogan | ohhh | 20:51 |
blogan | well i guess i dont see a lot of people wanting the change in time | 20:52 |
blogan | which is why i asked | 20:52 |
blogan | in the thread | 20:52 |
xgerman | yep | 20:52 |
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xgerman | but it’s probably good to check once in a while... | 20:52 |
blogan | what originally brought it up? | 20:52 |
xgerman | sbalukoff and his EMEA IBM people + Evgeny wanted it earlier | 20:52 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: Yep, keep the slot for now. | 20:53 |
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sbalukoff | xgerman: I will poke the IBM research team again on this, and I can get them motivated to start attending these meetings (as they should), we can revisit the meeting time again then. | 20:53 |
blogan | ah okay well if we hit a larger amount of contributors we can do the split one that neutron does | 20:53 |
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xgerman | or we do an ASCTIVE-ACTIVE spin-off | 20:54 |
rm_work | yeah though discussing meeting time during a meeting that people can't attend due to the time... is lulz | 20:54 |
sbalukoff | blogan: I'm hoping we can find a time in the morning that works well for most... and doesn't make me want to gouge out my eyes. ;) | 20:54 |
rm_work | but i guess if no one responded on the ML <_< | 20:54 |
blogan | sbalukoff: 7am est | 20:54 |
sbalukoff | rm_work: Yep, but nobody much has said much on the ML abou tit. | 20:54 |
sbalukoff | blogan: I will destroy you. | 20:54 |
rm_work | sbalukoff: +2 | 20:54 |
johnsom | blogan Enjoy talking to yourself.... | 20:54 |
blogan | sbalukoff: no need, that time will do that for you | 20:54 |
rm_work | I am core on "destroying blogan" | 20:54 |
sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:54 |
xgerman | anything else (serious)? | 20:55 |
blogan | nope | 20:55 |
xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:55 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:55 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 20:55:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:55 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-30-20.00.html | 20:55 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-30-20.00.txt | 20:55 |
sbalukoff | Danke schoen folks! | 20:55 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-30-20.00.log.html | 20:55 |
xgerman | o/ | 20:55 |
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