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| dims | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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| dims | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 19 16:00:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:00 |
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| kgiusti | o/ | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 16:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 16:00 |
| dims | just a few of us :) hopefully quick meeting then! | 16:01 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:01 | |
| bknudson | nothing for keystone | 16:01 |
| dims | so, last week oslo releases stepped on liberty branches, everyone recovered from it? | 16:01 |
| johnsom | We had a missing dependency that the removal of testresource from oslo.db uncovered, but otherwise nothing | 16:01 |
| dims | right thanks johnsom | 16:01 |
| bknudson | keystone isn't entirely recovered but things are working now. | 16:02 |
| dims | bknudson: what can i help with? | 16:02 |
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| amrith | ./ | 16:03 |
| bknudson | I think I just need to recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235923/ now that openstack/requirements is working, then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235923/ needs to get merged -- dims | 16:03 |
| dims | hi amrith, trove recovered from last weeks releases? | 16:03 |
| amrith | dims, not entirely | 16:03 |
| amrith | hello all | 16:03 |
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| bknudson | then we'll nee to merge the requirements update and release ksm | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Hello all. | 16:04 |
| amrith | for context, the trove fire was oslo.utils 2.6.0 causing tox tests to hang | 16:04 |
| amrith | not enturely sure what the cause was | 16:04 |
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| amrith | still looking into it | 16:04 |
| dims | bknudson: k, ping me when you get stuck | 16:04 |
| amrith | there was a change that was proposed | 16:04 |
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| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235149/ | 16:04 |
| amrith | that hasn't had the expected results (in the most recent incarnation) | 16:04 |
| amrith | other than that, we're back in action | 16:05 |
| amrith | I do have an issue (not a red flag) for later in the meeting. | 16:05 |
| amrith | it relates to oslo.messaging. | 16:05 |
| dims | amrith: local test work ok? | 16:05 |
| amrith | local tests don't work either | 16:05 |
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| amrith | i.e. not just gate | 16:06 |
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| amrith | local machine also hangs with that oslo.utils issue | 16:06 |
| amrith | that's how I found it | 16:06 |
| amrith | was that the question? | 16:06 |
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| dims | amrith: with the proposed fix from josh, are you able to pass local tests? | 16:06 |
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| * amrith scrolls back in aging memory | 16:07 | |
| amrith | yes, when this problem was reported | 16:07 |
| amrith | there was a patch proposed to oslo.utils | 16:07 |
| amrith | which I tested | 16:07 |
| amrith | and it worked. | 16:07 |
| dims | amrith: ack, that's good news | 16:07 |
| amrith | so when 2.6.1 comes out (or whatever the numebr is) we'll be good | 16:07 |
| dims | cool | 16:07 |
| amrith | and we can revert our change pinning 2.5.x | 16:07 |
| amrith | what's the ETA on that? | 16:07 |
| dims | which takes us to next topic | 16:07 |
| dims | #topic Releases for Mitaka | 16:07 |
| dims | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236770/ | 16:08 |
| dims | Releases today after verifying tests this morning https://travis-ci.org/dims/ | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Mitaka (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:08 | |
| dims | amrith: waiting for dhellmann's ack on the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236770/ | 16:08 |
| dims | will cut releases after that | 16:08 |
| dims | here's the list of all the changes that will be going in - http://logs.openstack.org/70/236770/1/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes/2a9827b/console.html | 16:09 |
| dims | grep for "Details Contents" and you will see a list for each project | 16:09 |
| amrith | ok, thanks. I will relay to trove team | 16:09 |
| dims | k switching topic | 16:09 |
| dims | #topic openstack spec reviews - oslo.apiclient pika rabbitmq driver | 16:09 |
| dims | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228992/ (pika) | 16:09 |
| dims | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235200/ (apiclient) | 16:09 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack spec reviews - oslo.apiclient pika rabbitmq driver (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:10 | |
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| dims | short summary - apiclient going in as a new library, pika driver will be on a branch per what we talked a week or two ago | 16:10 |
| dims | any objections? | 16:10 |
| abhishekk | hi, I am working on apiclient liabrary | 16:11 |
| bknudson | I really think that we should get jamielennox to look at the apiclient library | 16:11 |
| abhishekk | please let me know if you have any suggestions | 16:11 |
| dims | bknudson: can you please pass on the message? | 16:12 |
| abhishekk | bkundson: I will try to ping jamie on this | 16:12 |
| dims | abhishekk: thanks | 16:12 |
| bknudson | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/apiclient/auth.py#n20 -- this is deprecated, so why put it in a library? | 16:12 |
| dims | bknudson: the idea is to start from oslo-inccubator code, then stabilize the API then make releases | 16:12 |
| abhishekk | dims: ++ | 16:13 |
| dims | so it's quite possible that the code in question will be ripped out | 16:13 |
| dims | ok next topic | 16:14 |
| dims | #topic need drivers for each session | 16:14 |
| dims | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/oslo | 16:14 |
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| dims | please let me know which session you would like to chair :) or i'll assign one to you :) | 16:15 |
| dims | seriously, need help please let me know | 16:15 |
| dims | bknudson: can you make the ossg/log session? | 16:15 |
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| bknudson | dims: that one I can make as of now. | 16:16 |
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| dims | bknudson: cool thanks | 16:16 |
| ozamiatin | dims: I forgot which working session relates to zmq? | 16:16 |
| dims | let me know if that changes | 16:17 |
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| dims | ozamiatin: the 5:20 pm | 16:17 |
| dims | ozamiatin: let me pin you to that session :) | 16:17 |
| ozamiatin | dims: got it, so it would be pika + zmq? | 16:17 |
| dims | ozamiatin: and kafka if anyone from there is around | 16:17 |
| dims | ok last item on agenda | 16:18 |
| dims | #topic Open discussion | 16:18 |
| dims | Any stuck reviews? or specs? | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:18 | |
| amrith | I have one | 16:18 |
| amrith | or three ... | 16:18 |
| dims | amrith: shoot | 16:18 |
| amrith | item #1: We (Trove) keep getting requests from people who would like a different messaging transport. Trove uses oslo.messaging and people have suggested we should use Zaqar. I believe that if that is the case, we need a Zaqar driver for oslo.messaging so trove doesn't need to implement code for different RPC systems. What are the plans for something like this? | 16:19 |
| johnsom | Slightly off topic, but 4.0.1 of coverage is out and fixes the regression for os.path.exists | 16:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok, So I've had a strange idea this weekend, that I'd like to share with you guys | 16:19 |
| amrith | Also related to this, as Trove uses oslo.messaging, it is not nice that we have to then go and configure users and ACL's directly with the transport. So I'd like to propose that oslo.messaging provide basic user and ACL API's. Create user, set exchange access ... | 16:19 |
| amrith | that's my item #1 | 16:20 |
| dims | johnsom: nice, thanks. will check if upper-constraints is updated to match | 16:20 |
| amrith | or 1, 2 and 3 depending on how you count | 16:20 |
| dims | amrith: we have a session for you :) http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/e415aa81e64ec400204e6554b4cbc249 | 16:20 |
| dims | amrith: i'll start doing the etherpads and we an throw these ideas in there | 16:21 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: what's up? | 16:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So my idea came from realization, that no one in OpenStack uses sentry, I mean https://www.getsentry.com/welcome/ | 16:22 |
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| dims | johnsom: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt#n85 yay | 16:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it is a nice python tool for error logging and arror log aggregation, that's capable of showing nice stacktraces and local variables and stuff | 16:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So I imagined that one could install devstack and, say, `enable_plugin sentry` | 16:23 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: central reporting from a customer environment? | 16:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and have a working sentry in the env, and any 500 error (or probably 40x too) would show up there | 16:24 |
| mdbooth | dims: Assume I don't have to ask for additional eyes on my oslo.messaging locking patches? You and harlowja are on it, right? | 16:24 |
| amrith | ok, thanks dims. I'll let the others finish their discussion. I have one last question. | 16:24 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: kind of like logstash usage in our CI | 16:24 |
| dims | mdbooth: ack | 16:25 |
| dims | mdbooth: yes | 16:25 |
| mdbooth | Cool, thanks. | 16:25 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | dims: haven't looked into that one yet. | 16:25 |
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| abhishekk | dims: I have one 0/ | 16:25 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: pretty easy to do a plugin for devstack, what would you like our help with? | 16:25 |
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| dims | abhishekk: shoot | 16:26 |
| abhishekk | graduate.sh script fails to delete openstack folder as it contains _i18.py | 16:26 |
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| abhishekk | * _i18n.py | 16:26 |
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| abhishekk | is it a bug or i missing something?? | 16:26 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: see http://logstash.openstack.org/ | 16:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | dims: yep, I was thinking more of a — should I try adding a oslo-based interface for sentry. That would probably allow other projects to easier adopt it | 16:26 |
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| dims | kzaitsev_mb: commercial vendor? | 16:27 |
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| dims | kzaitsev_mb: don't know what the interest level would be. worth starting an email thread to see who else would be interested | 16:28 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: ok? | 16:28 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | kzaitsev_mb: most operators would probably want to use their own instance of logstash/elasticsearch/kibana rather than relying on sentry | 16:28 |
| dims | abhishekk: possibly, we haven't run that thing in ages | 16:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | dims: nothing commercial there ) | 16:28 |
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| amrith | quetsion #4 ... Can I configure oslo.log so it redirects all messages to syslog on a different host? | 16:29 |
| abhishekk | dims: ok, I will report it as a bug | 16:29 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: looking at https://www.getsentry.com/pricing/ | 16:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | dims: rpodolyaka1: sentry can be self hosted | 16:29 |
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| dims | amrith: i haven't done it! dhellmann may know | 16:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it's an open source python tool. It's just that they sell it as a service | 16:30 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | kzaitsev_mb: I must be missing something, looks like they offer a SaaS there | 16:30 |
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| haypo | quick poll for documenting changes in oslo (see also my thread on openstack-dev ML), please vote: | 16:30 |
| haypo | +2 to document them in reviews and make them mandatory for new changes | 16:30 |
| haypo | +1 to document them in reviews (but keep them optional, we may document changes later) | 16:30 |
| haypo | 0 if you don't care | 16:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | rpodolyaka1: https://github.com/getsentry/sentry here is the source code | 16:30 |
| haypo | -1 if you don't want to document changes in reviews | 16:30 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: ack, sounds like an interesting idea. let's find some folks who are interested in this | 16:30 |
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| haypo | (sorry, i missed the "open discussion" :-)) | 16:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | rpodolyaka1: so you can host the whole thing yourself | 16:31 |
| dims | haypo: got a link to the email? | 16:31 |
| dims | haypo: oh you want the poll right here, right now? | 16:31 |
| haypo | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077103.html | 16:31 |
| haypo | [openstack-dev] [oslo] Require documenting changes with versionadded and versionchanged | 16:31 |
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| haypo | dims: right here, right now :) | 16:32 |
| dims | haypo: we probably don't have quorum :) need dhellmann and harlowja and others | 16:32 |
| kzaitsev_mb | dims: yep, I think I'll write an email, as soon as I get some prototype working =) Just to show some way I imagine it should work ) | 16:32 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: cool | 16:32 |
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| haypo | dims: it's just a way to discuss documentation :) | 16:32 |
| kzaitsev_mb | dims: I was just thinking, that oslo.* is the right place to store common middleware/interfacing code. | 16:32 |
| haypo | i don't expect that we take a decision right now ;) | 16:32 |
| rpodolyaka1 | kzaitsev_mb: ah, ok. well, would be nice to see if there are any advantages over 'classic' ELK then ;) | 16:33 |
| haypo | dhellmann announced that something will come making documenting changes easier | 16:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so wanted to ask around if there are any strong objections or smth ) | 16:33 |
| dims | kzaitsev_mb: ack | 16:33 |
| amrith | thanks dims I will follow up with dhellmann offline | 16:33 |
| haypo | "Stand by for some announcements about release notes management coming next week that will help solve this problem in a different way." where next week = this week :) | 16:34 |
| kzaitsev_mb | rpodolyaka1: what's 'classic' ELK? =) sorry for dumb questions =) | 16:34 |
| dims | haypo: we have a session for you at Tokyo :) i'll add you as the chair | 16:34 |
| rpodolyaka1 | kzaitsev_mb: elasticsearch, logstash and kibana | 16:34 |
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| haypo | dims: oh, really? | 16:34 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I see ) | 16:34 |
| haypo | dims: "let's document victor?" | 16:34 |
| dims | haypo: http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/7ec1eacb794353e1fac18801b96e7e83 | 16:34 |
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| dims | haypo: let me know if you are free at that time | 16:35 |
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| dims | "what makes haypo tick" :) | 16:35 |
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| haypo | dims: i will attend this session | 16:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | rpodolyaka1: well, it might be, that I'm not familiar with those =) and trying to reimplement the bicycle. but I believe, that it's still worth to try and build a quick prototype to show around, as I had lot's of positive experience with self-hosted sentry before +) | 16:36 |
| dims | haypo: thanks | 16:36 |
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| dims | haypo: we'll need to start building etherpads with ideas | 16:36 |
| rpodolyaka1 | kzaitsev_mb: I agree with dims that ML thread is the better place to ask, you might want to send it to openstack-operators too | 16:36 |
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| dims | rpodolyaka1: ++ | 16:36 |
| * krotscheck has an open discussion topic | 16:36 | |
| dims | krotscheck: go for it | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | I'd like to create a library of common javascript things. | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | I think calling it 'openstack/oslo-jslib' may make sense | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | Is that something y'all would be willing to take on? | 16:37 |
| kzaitsev_mb | rpodolyaka1: nice idea about the operators, will remember that ) | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | it would be seeded with code from here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic-webclient/tree/app/js/modules/openstack | 16:38 |
| dims | krotscheck: i am willing to experiment if you can round up folks who can contribute as library cores | 16:38 |
| haypo | dims: oh yes, i would help because the current description doesn't help me :-/ | 16:38 |
| dims | :) | 16:38 |
| krotscheck | dims: Alllrightey. | 16:38 |
| dims | thanks krotscheck | 16:38 |
| krotscheck | dims: Is oslo the correct place for that, or would this make more sense as a non-python thing? | 16:38 |
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| dims | krotscheck: the big tent makes it easy to start anything, the os-win library is an example | 16:39 |
| haypo | kozhukalov: cool, there are some unit tests :) | 16:39 |
| dims | krotscheck: so the basic stumbling block is identifying others who are interested in this problem space | 16:39 |
| dims | for reviews, ideas, etc | 16:39 |
| krotscheck | dims: Yes, but what's the _right_ way to do this? [/german_obsessive_compulsive] | 16:40 |
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| dims | krotscheck: follow the pattern of os-win, round up some fellow contributors and there's a infra page on how to get a project started | 16:40 |
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| dims | krotscheck: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 16:41 |
| krotscheck | Gotcha | 16:41 |
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| * dims checking if everyone got what they needed :) | 16:42 | |
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| dims | last question, who will not make it to Tokyo? | 16:42 |
| kgiusti | o/ :( | 16:42 |
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| dims | kgiusti: ow, we'll miss u :) | 16:43 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:43 |
| kgiusti | austin for shure! | 16:43 |
| dims | kgiusti: need your ok on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236168/ | 16:43 |
| dims | kgiusti: ++ | 16:43 |
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| kgiusti | dims: will do. | 16:43 |
| dims | hey jecarey, we were just wrapping up. any thing you want to add? | 16:43 |
| jecarey | not going to Tokyo | 16:44 |
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| dims | jecarey: see you in austin then! :) | 16:44 |
| dims | thanks everyone | 16:44 |
| dims | #endmeeting | 16:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 19 16:44:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-10-19-16.00.html | 16:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-10-19-16.00.txt | 16:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-10-19-16.00.log.html | 16:44 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 19 19:00:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| pvaneck | hi | 19:01 |
| catherineD | roll call | 19:01 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-10-19 | 19:01 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:02 |
| rockyg | o/ | 19:02 |
| catherineD | hello rockyg: pvaneck: let's just wait a couple minutes .. | 19:03 |
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| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:04 |
| catherineD | let's start ... | 19:04 |
| catherineD | #topic Infra hosting | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: could you update us the good news !! | 19:05 |
| pvaneck | sure | 19:05 |
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| pvaneck | we are now fully moved over to https://refstack.openstack.org | 19:06 |
| pvaneck | refstack.net is now setup to redirect to this site | 19:06 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Yeah! Congratz all of us) | 19:07 |
| pvaneck | people trying to upload to refstack.net will also get an error message saying that the site has moved | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | Indeed we all should feel good with this progress ... we work on this since June ... | 19:07 |
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| pvaneck | so we can maybe decommission refstack.net dreamhost server after a while | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | davidlenwell:^^ | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | maybe give it a month or so | 19:09 |
| rockyg | yay! | 19:09 |
| catherineD | I want to especially thank pvaneck: fungi: and krotscheck: for their contributions | 19:09 |
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| catherineD | so now the data is saved at an official place that should encourage more data upload ... | 19:09 |
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| fungi | catherineD: they did all the hard work, i just took credit ;) | 19:10 |
| pvaneck | haha | 19:10 |
| * fungi is a proper leader! | 19:10 | |
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| catherineD | fungi: yea yea ... we won't be here without you !!! And you know it !!! | 19:10 |
| rockyg | ++ | 19:11 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: would you say that with the move this bugs are also fixed ( or handled) | 19:11 |
| catherineD | #link RefStack sign in sometimes slow https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/1499542 | 19:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1499542 in refstack "RefStack sign in sometimes slow" [High,Confirmed] | 19:11 |
| catherineD | #link First login with OpenStackID is wonky https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/1504691 | 19:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504691 in refstack "First login with OpenStackID is wonky" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Catherine Diep (cdiep) | 19:11 |
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| pvaneck | catherineD: the refstack sign in slowness one can be marked resolved | 19:12 |
| catherineD | rockyg: the second link is from you ... | 19:12 |
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| pvaneck | some of the "first login with OpenstackID" is wonky can be considered resolved | 19:13 |
| rockyg | Yay! | 19:13 |
| rockyg | That was caching? | 19:13 |
| pvaneck | however rockyg mentions issues with the logout that has not been resolved | 19:13 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: I know that the session patch fixed some issues | 19:13 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: ic | 19:14 |
| pvaneck | the wonkiness came from server side sessions being stored in memory | 19:14 |
| rockyg | I finally have some time to focus on some of this stuff. | 19:14 |
| rockyg | It' | 19:14 |
| rockyg | s almost relaxing | 19:14 |
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| pvaneck | the logout issue has to do with the persistence of the openstackid_session | 19:14 |
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| pvaneck | which i have a patch almost ready for | 19:14 |
| catherineD | I am so happy that we have the server up before the summit.... | 19:15 |
| catherineD | rockyg: thx for being our tester and submitted the bug .... | 19:15 |
| catherineD | ok let's move on ... | 19:15 |
| rockyg | It would be great if we could get a few more test results that are marked visible in, now. maybe hogepodge? | 19:15 |
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| fungi | i think there was some ipv6 routing issues in/around internap which were causing v6-based connections from refstack.net to openstackid.org to fail and get retried over ipv4 | 19:16 |
| fungi | which were contributing to one of those issues | 19:16 |
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| fungi | but should be no longer since refstack.openstack.org and openstackid.org are in the same network/region now | 19:17 |
| catherineD | rockyg: could you log into the site and see whether there is other areas that we should pay attention to ... | 19:17 |
| rockyg | Interesting. So, the whole interweb could get more wonky until the ipv6<->ipv4 implentation corner cases get fixed. | 19:17 |
| catherineD | fungi: that is great ... we should really move off refstack.net anyway ... | 19:18 |
| rockyg | catherineD, yeah, I'm going out to it and spending fifteen or so minutes minimum just doing exploratory testing. | 19:18 |
| catherineD | rockyg: thank you! | 19:18 |
| rockyg | catherineD,I also filed that bug about somehow highlighting the flagged tests when all tests are displayed | 19:18 |
| catherineD | rockyg: For that bug, I think we already have the flagged icon displayed | 19:19 |
| catherineD | with all tests | 19:19 |
| pvaneck | rockyg: wondering if the flag icon is not showing for you | 19:20 |
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| rockyg | I think I finished the review of the signing doc, but want to verify. | 19:20 |
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| rockyg | pvaneck, Yeah. Nothing. All the tests and segments looked the same. Or maybe I hadn't opened to the right level? Maybe uplevel needs a flag, too. | 19:21 |
| catherineD | rockyg: let's discuss f-2-f next week? | 19:21 |
| pvaneck | what browser do you use rockyg? | 19:21 |
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| rockyg | FF or Chrome. I think Chrome be FF doesn't handle the certs through multiple proxies well. | 19:22 |
| catherineD | rockyg: pvaneck: let's meet to discuss this f-2-f next week? | 19:23 |
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| rockyg | yup | 19:24 |
| catherineD | that would be easier ... | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | sure whenever | 19:24 |
| catherineD | #topic No RefStack IRC meeting on October 26th and November 2nd | 19:24 |
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| catherineD | is that ok with everyone ? | 19:25 |
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| catherineD | The refstack designe session is on Thursday .... | 19:26 |
| rockyg | ++ | 19:26 |
| pvaneck | yea, that is fine. a lot of people travelling | 19:26 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I hope you be able to attend the design session on Thursday? | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko___ | It depends from time) | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko___ | What time it would be? | 19:28 |
| catherineD | it is 4:30 pm Tokyo time ... I think it is 7:00 am UTC? | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko___ | let me check | 19:29 |
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| sslypushenko___ | It looks like, i will be able attend this meeting | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko___: thank you so much!!! | 19:31 |
| catherineD | #topic Tokyo summit agenda | 19:31 |
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| catherineD | #link Please add topics that you think we should discuss. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-tokyo-summit . | 19:31 |
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| catherineD | major discussion would be on data models for vendor to data affiliation ... | 19:32 |
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| rockyg | I think that we should also try to do a crossproject with QA for how tempestlib etc are planned to move forward. | 19:33 |
| catherineD | I think the data model topic is best to discuss f-2-f | 19:33 |
| rockyg | Really need to get on the same page as them, or vice versa for future testing. | 19:33 |
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| catherineD | rockyg: +1 that would be on QA agenda right? | 19:34 |
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| pvaneck | can attend some qa sessions | 19:35 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: definitely ... | 19:35 |
| rockyg | Yes. There is a working session that the refstack devs should attend, if possible. | 19:35 |
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| pvaneck | rockyg: sure will look into that and put it on my summit sched | 19:36 |
| rockyg | I don't think they have a crossproject identified with us yet. I think catherineD should reach out to Matt Treinish to get on QA's schedule | 19:36 |
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| dliu | sorry I am late | 19:37 |
| dliu | hi | 19:37 |
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| pvaneck | hi dliu | 19:38 |
| mtreinish | rockyg: the qa schedule is pretty much locked down at this point | 19:38 |
| dliu | hi paul | 19:38 |
| mtreinish | the time for proposing a session was a few weeks ago | 19:38 |
| rockyg | mtreinish, maybe informal? BoF type? | 19:39 |
| mtreinish | rockyg: maybe, but why not just come to the contib meetup on fri. | 19:39 |
| rockyg | Ah, perfect. pvaneck and catherineD .... you have now been officially informed of where to get on the same page as QA.... | 19:41 |
| rockyg | Thanks, mtreinish! | 19:41 |
| pvaneck | yep noted | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | mtreinish: that would be great.. we will come Friday and many of the QA session as I did in the past summit ... thanks | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | #topic Data model | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | #link started with Mark Voelker's patch ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226902/ ) | 19:43 |
| catherineD | I create this UNL data model for us to discuss | 19:43 |
| catherineD | #link RefStacl Data Model https://goo.gl/zWYnoq | 19:43 |
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| sslypushenko___ | Great! | 19:44 |
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| catherineD | it is just a starting point .... I would like for us to think about it now so we will have productive session at ths summit ... hopefully after the design session we will come up with an agreed models for us to implemented | 19:45 |
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| rockyg | Cool. | 19:45 |
| catherineD | I will work on a few use ases scenario for the summit session ... | 19:45 |
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| dliu | thank you Catherine, great job | 19:46 |
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| catherineD | for now is there any open discussion anyone want to bring up or ... do we want to take the rest of the time to discuss the data model | 19:46 |
| catherineD | dliu: thx | 19:46 |
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| dliu | welcome | 19:47 |
| pvaneck | dliu: you can probably also attend the refstack design sessions at the summit remotely | 19:47 |
| dliu | Yes | 19:47 |
| catherineD | dliu: great .. | 19:48 |
| pvaneck | think only one hour time difference between your location and tokyo? | 19:48 |
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| dliu | corret | 19:48 |
| dliu | correct | 19:48 |
| catherineD | anything else? if not let's discuss the model | 19:48 |
| dliu | tokyo is one hour ahead of beijing | 19:48 |
| catherineD | can we look at page 3 on https://goo.gl/zWYnoq | 19:49 |
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| dliu | yes | 19:49 |
| sslypushenko___ | IMO "product" can be replaced with vendor meta | 19:50 |
| sslypushenko___ | It increases flexibility in future | 19:51 |
| catherineD | what would be the fields ... just like the test meta data? | 19:51 |
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| catherineD | meta-key and value? | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko___ | yeap | 19:52 |
| catherineD | notice that I do not associate user or vendor to data ... | 19:52 |
| catherineD | on page 3 | 19:52 |
| catherineD | data are associated with group .... | 19:52 |
| catherineD | is that OK with everyone? | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko___ | hmmm | 19:53 |
| catherineD | in my mind , at the minimum a user will belong to its own group | 19:54 |
| rockyg | me, too, hmmmm.... gotta think about that some | 19:54 |
| sslypushenko___ | May we should allow to associate results with groups and users? | 19:54 |
| catherineD | say user john belong to john_group | 19:54 |
| catherineD | so when the user first upload data .. the admin_group = john_group ... | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko___ | It will make user's life harder | 19:55 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko___: how so? | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | I am think at some point the data admin group will belong to the product_admin | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | or vendor_admin_group ... | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko___ | user should keep in mind all this stuff related with groups | 19:57 |
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| sslypushenko___ | I need some more time to think | 19:57 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko___: yes please ... as ssaid I just want to throw something out there for us to think about and discuss ... | 19:58 |
| catherineD | so that we have a productive f-2-f later. ... | 19:58 |
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| sslypushenko___ | It is really helps) Thank you | 19:58 |
| catherineD | everyone please think about the models... give as many inputs .. because everyone would have diff perspective ... together we make RefStack ROCK!!! | 19:59 |
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| catherineD | let's end the meeting .... | 19:59 |
| dliu | yes | 19:59 |
| catherineD | thank you all ! | 19:59 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 19 20:00:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-10-19-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-10-19-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| rockyg | Thanks! | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-10-19-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| dave-mccowan | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 19 20:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| dliu | thanks | 20:00 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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| dave-mccowan | We're got a few Barbicaneers today. redrobot is out, i'm your guest host this afternoon. | 20:02 |
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| edtubill | o/ | 20:02 |
| dave-mccowan | as usual the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:02 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic Tokyo Planning | 20:02 |
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| dave-mccowan | The planning etherpad is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-m-design-sessions | 20:03 |
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| dave-mccowan | Please update this etherpad with your ideas, votes, and comments. | 20:03 |
| kfarr | o/ | 20:04 |
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| dave-mccowan | if you haven't already, add your name to confirmed attendees on top if you plan to come. everyone can vote, by adding +1 next to any topic they feel is important. | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | any comments on this? | 20:05 |
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| dave-mccowan | moving on | 20:06 |
| arunkant | dave-mccowan: Are we planning to add barbican etherpad in the Mitaka etherpads ..https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Mitaka/Etherpads | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | #action dave-mccowan will add Barbican link to Mitaka page. | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | thanks arunkant | 20:06 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic Any other topics | 20:07 |
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| dave-mccowan | going once? | 20:09 |
| jkf | Will there be a meeting next week? | 20:10 |
| dave-mccowan | anyone have any leads on the best after-hour meet-ups in Tokyo? | 20:10 |
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| diazjf | dave-mccowan, is anyone meeting up in Tokyo before the summit. Maybe we can setup a whatsup or something. | 20:10 |
| dave-mccowan | Regular IRC time will be 5am in Tokyo, I'm guessing no meeting next week. | 20:11 |
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| dave-mccowan | Thanks everyone for dialing in. We can discuss meetups in #openstack-barbican during the week as folks figure out there plans. | 20:13 |
| dave-mccowan | #endmeeting | 20:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 19 20:13:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-10-19-20.00.html | 20:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-10-19-20.00.txt | 20:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-10-19-20.00.log.html | 20:13 |
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