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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 16 14:02:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | o/ | 14:02 |
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| cloudon | heh | 14:02 |
| gjayavelu | hi | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | howdy folks | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #topic complex instance placement updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "complex instance placement updates (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:03 | |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251442/ | 14:03 |
| sgordon | so this merged, arguably somewhat faster than i thought it would | 14:03 |
| sgordon | wondering if you think it still needs further tweaks cloudon ? | 14:03 |
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| cloudon | I think after our discussion last week I was happy I understood it | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:04 |
| sgordon | wfm :) | 14:04 |
| sgordon | so i havent gotten any further on drafting up the other two | 14:05 |
| sgordon | other than that i have a tab open with the sec segregation one ready to start, lol | 14:05 |
| sgordon | i had a question about meeting scheduling though | 14:05 |
| cloudon | every journey starts with a single tab... | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #topic meeting schedule | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | #info availability for 23rd Dec, 30th Dec, 6th Jan ? | 14:06 |
| sgordon | the other working groups i am on are pretty much in hiatus until january after this week | 14:06 |
| cloudon | for me - poor to non-existent for Dec, Jan 6 OK | 14:06 |
| sgordon | oddly i am still around/available for the 23rd and 30th if needed but will be MIA 6th Jan | 14:06 |
| sgordon | ok | 14:07 |
| sgordon | my proposal would be we push out to jan 13th and have a checkpoint then | 14:07 |
| sgordon | in the hope that i have used the extra hour in the intervening weeks to draft these submissions | 14:07 |
| sgordon | ;) | 14:07 |
| cloudon | +1 | 14:08 |
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| cloudon | qn on content placement - where does 'merged' take us to in the workflow at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories? The "user story ready for voting" box in bottom left? | 14:08 |
| sgordon | #info Next meeting January 13th | 14:08 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to update wiki and send email highlighting cancellation of intervening meetings | 14:09 |
| sgordon | yeah, great question | 14:09 |
| sgordon | in theory i am the owner | 14:09 |
| sgordon | so it's in drafts and ready for voting! | 14:09 |
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| sgordon | i think i now need to resubmit against the proposed folder | 14:09 |
| sgordon | (as in submit a patch that is a simple move of the RST to the other folder) | 14:09 |
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| cloudon | ok, cool - wasn't sure what the "voting" referred to other than normal gerrit reviews | 14:11 |
| sgordon | i believe there is a concept of prioritization within the product wg which is what it refers to | 14:12 |
| sgordon | and/or the community input phase in the next box | 14:12 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, make sense? | 14:14 |
| sgordon | i suspect i will learn some new things when i submit it | 14:14 |
| sgordon | :) | 14:15 |
| sgordon | there is also an element of testing the process here as i am not sure anything has made it through proposed yet | 14:15 |
| cloudon | yup, makes perfect sense | 14:15 |
| cloudon | yes, was just looking at the links on that workflow page and they seem to be placeholders | 14:15 |
| sgordon | the sub pages ones? | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | yeah | 14:16 |
| sgordon | i know for cap management we had an initial meeting but it was very hard to align our schedules so we have mostly been working via email | 14:17 |
| cloudon | yup, links like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories/Lifecycle_Management | 14:17 |
| sgordon | i wonder if that info about the SMEs involved etc doesnt belong in the submission itself | 14:17 |
| cloudon | Isn't the team stuff on the sub-page about who has picked up the user story for implementation rather than the story itself? | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | no | 14:19 |
| sgordon | all of those are still in definition stages afaik | 14:19 |
| cloudon | ah, ok - in which case having them in the story would make sense | 14:20 |
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| sgordon | yeah | 14:21 |
| sgordon | mmm just looking at it there really isnt a spot in the template | 14:21 |
| sgordon | i'll ask on their m/l | 14:22 |
| sgordon | i think it would make sense to have you and i listed in the complex instance placement one in case anyone has questions | 14:22 |
| * sgordon sgordon to ask on product-wg mailing list about listing SMEs in user story | 14:22 | |
| cloudon | makes sense | 14:23 |
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| sgordon | #action sgordon to ask on product-wg mailing list about listing SMEs in user story | 14:23 |
| sgordon | ^ that works better :) | 14:24 |
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| sgordon | alright | 14:25 |
| sgordon | so my plan is to use the next 30 mins to follow up on my AIs ;) | 14:25 |
| sgordon | anything else you would like to raise? | 14:25 |
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| cloudon | nope - that's all from me other than to wish you a happy Christmas & New Year | 14:25 |
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| sgordon | yes, you too! | 14:26 |
| sgordon | enjoy | 14:26 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 16 14:26:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-12-16-14.02.html | 14:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-12-16-14.02.txt | 14:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-12-16-14.02.log.html | 14:27 |
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| Swami_ | hi | 15:00 |
| regXboi | time | 15:00 |
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| obondarev | o/ | 15:00 |
| Swami_ | let us give a minute more | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 16 15:00:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
| Swami_ | obondarev:hi | 15:00 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi there | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami_ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami Swami_ haleyb | 15:00 |
| * regXboi watches the musical chairs | 15:01 | |
| Swami_ | do we have any announcements today | 15:01 |
| obondarev | :) | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | o/ | 15:02 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin:hi | 15:02 |
| haleyb | So this might be the last meeting this year for me as I'm on vacation, don't know about others | 15:02 |
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| regXboi | ditto for me | 15:02 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: makes sense | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | ++ | 15:03 |
| Swami_ | if we all decide then we can resume the meeting in 2016 | 15:03 |
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| regXboi | I'd ask it the other way | 15:04 |
| haleyb | Right. I might be watching reviews here and there but not much else | 15:04 |
| regXboi | "does anybody see a reason to meet with reduced groups" | 15:04 |
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| Swami_ | I don't see any value with reduced groups. | 15:04 |
| obondarev | we can continue in 2016 I think | 15:04 |
| regXboi | ok, so somebody want to do the #agree? | 15:05 |
| haleyb | #agree with that | 15:05 |
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| Swami_ | +1 | 15:05 |
| regXboi | #agreed DVR meetings will pick up on 1/6/2016 | 15:05 |
| regXboi | whatever - I'll do it :) | 15:05 |
| lizk | +1 | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | I'll update the wiki page after the meeting | 15:06 |
| Swami_ | #action I will send a message out in the channel. | 15:06 |
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| regXboi | Swami_: you want to #undo and s/I/Swami_/ in that? | 15:06 |
| haleyb | Swami_: dev list? | 15:06 |
| regXboi | otherwise the notes have an action item for "I" | 15:06 |
| hichihara | We need ML for info | 15:06 |
| Swami_ | #undo s/I/Swami | 15:06 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0xa684150> | 15:06 |
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| regXboi | (I can't believe I'm asking this) haleyb: hand me a chair, please | 15:07 |
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| haleyb | #chair regXboi | 15:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami Swami_ haleyb regXboi | 15:07 |
| haleyb | hope you can reach the top shelf now | 15:07 |
| regXboi | #action Swami_ to send a message about meetings continuing on 1/6/2016 to both channel and -dev ML | 15:08 |
| * regXboi breathes easier | 15:08 | |
| regXboi | any other announcements? | 15:08 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: did we give you enough breathing problems. | 15:08 |
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| regXboi | Swami_: since I've read minutes from these things in the past, I've become sensitive to the messages making sense to people who weren't here | 15:09 |
| haleyb | i wish the bot would ackowledge all the #'s | 15:09 |
| Swami_ | nothing else I hope let us get going. | 15:09 |
| regXboi | and note: in three days I will be a "person who weren't here" :) | 15:09 |
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| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:09 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: hi | 15:09 |
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| Swami_ | I have created the bug sections in the Wiki page to categorize the bugs. | 15:09 |
| Swami_ | Please let me know if that helps out for the people who review and read the wiki. | 15:10 |
| obondarev | Swami_: nice | 15:10 |
| Swami_ | still minor clean up is required, I will do it in the coming week. | 15:10 |
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| Swami_ | This week we have not seen many bugs but a couple | 15:10 |
| haleyb | Swami_: thanks, it helps, should cut/paste a small info line for each | 15:10 |
| Swami_ | Let us go over it. | 15:11 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes will work on it. | 15:11 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1524908 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524908 in neutron "Router may be removed from dvr_snat agent by accident" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:11 |
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| Swami_ | There is a patch for this bug right now. | 15:11 |
| Swami_ | It should be straight forward, this was found during addressing another patch by oleg, so oleg has pushed in this patch. | 15:12 |
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| Swami_ | Please review it. | 15:12 |
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| Swami_ | Nothing to discuss more about this bug. | 15:12 |
| Swami_ | I think this bug has two patchs one to add the "admin_context" to delete and the other one to handle delete of router_namespaces in snat. | 15:13 |
| Swami_ | review both the patches. | 15:13 |
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| Swami_ | The next one in the list is | 15:13 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1526175 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526175 in neutron "ha router schedule to dvr agent in compute node" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to zhang sheng (langyxxl) | 15:13 |
| regXboi | did we drop a bug reference there? | 15:14 |
| Swami_ | This one was filed recently, the bug states that somehow when ha is configured and dvr agent is running, the ha routers end up in the dvr node. | 15:14 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: which bug reference? | 15:14 |
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| regXboi | Swami_: you said Nothing to discuss more about 1524908 and then said "I think this bug has two patches..." | 15:15 |
| regXboi | and I'm confused if the I think statement still refers to 1524908 | 15:15 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1424096 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1424096 in neutron "DVR routers attached to shared networks aren't being unscheduled from a compute node after deleting the VMs using the shared net" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:15 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: this is the bug associated with the other dependent patch. | 15:16 |
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| regXboi | ah | 15:16 |
| regXboi | ok, now the loop is closed - thanks | 15:16 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: is that clear now. | 15:16 |
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| obondarev | I reopened that one | 15:16 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: thanks | 15:17 |
| obondarev | because faced it while reworking unit tests | 15:17 |
| obondarev | so decided to go with a separate patch | 15:17 |
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| Swami_ | obondarev: thanks for the update | 15:17 |
| Swami_ | next one. | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1522824 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522824 in neutron "DVR multinode job: test_shelve_instance failure due to SSHTimeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | This is old bug and there is a patch out there for review. Please review it if not reviewed. | 15:18 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253569/ - This is the patch. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | obondarev: were you discussing that one with kevin ? | 15:19 |
| obondarev | it had +2 from carl_baldwinoncebut then kevinbenton suggested to use BUILD instead of new PENDING_BUILD | 15:19 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: no the one that i was discussing with kevin is the other one, this is related, but not the same. | 15:19 |
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| obondarev | haleyb: yes, we discussed with kevinbenton | 15:19 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: I did see that you pushed in a new version. | 15:19 |
| obondarev | so the suggestion didn't wokr spo I returned to initial version | 15:20 |
| obondarev | reviews needed | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: ok, thanks will review it. | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1456073 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1456073 in neutron "Connection to an instance with floating IP breaks during block migration when using DVR" [High,Confirmed] | 15:21 |
| obondarev | Swami_: thanks, I think you did already | 15:21 |
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| Swami_ | This bug is related to live migration on DVR and FIP. | 15:21 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: This is the one that I had discussion with kevin yesterday. | 15:22 |
| Swami_ | obondarev has a couple of patches to address the live migration but that is not directly related to this bug | 15:22 |
| obondarev | right | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: I will try to test with obondarev patch the live migration issue with fip and see if there is any improvement on this. | 15:24 |
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| obondarev | Swami_: my patches will hardly resolve the issue, I think more work is needed | 15:24 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: I have also added some comments in your patch on passing some information as "kwargs" to the registerd parties. | 15:24 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: yes I agree. | 15:24 |
| obondarev | Swami_: saw that, prefer a separate patch for this | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: I will work on it and see what is more required. | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: ok will add one. | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246898/ | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | This is the patch that we are discussing. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks for the link | 15:26 |
| Swami_ | The next high priority bug in the list is | 15:26 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1462154 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to ZongKai LI (lzklibj) | 15:26 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246855/ | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | This patch is under review, please review if not reviewed. | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1522824 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522824 in neutron "DVR multinode job: test_shelve_instance failure due to SSHTimeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:28 |
| Swami_ | This is related to the gate test failure. | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | I need to catch up on this. Looks like still a wip | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | ... About the previous bug | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: yes seems like it. | 15:29 |
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| obondarev | 1522824 was already discussed, wasn't it? | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | lizk: are you still here. | 15:29 |
| haleyb | yes, it was first | 15:29 |
| lizk | yes, I'm here | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | lizk: are you still working on 1522824 | 15:30 |
| lizk | it's should be under review now, but failed for gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron test | 15:30 |
| Swami_ | #undo | 15:30 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x9f90d90> | 15:30 |
| lizk | yes, I'm working on that | 15:30 |
| Swami_ | lizk: ok, just ping us in the channel once your are ready for review. | 15:31 |
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| lizk | ok | 15:31 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: yes we have already reviewed the bug 1522824, my mistake. | 15:31 |
| openstack | bug 1522824 in neutron "DVR multinode job: test_shelve_instance failure due to SSHTimeout" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1522824 - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:31 |
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| Swami_ | #topic Gate-Test-Failures | 15:32 |
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| Swami_ | Is there any new failures seen in the gate recently with respect to DVR. | 15:33 |
| haleyb | Swami_: we should discuss the two infra reviews as well | 15:33 |
| regXboi | I've not seen anything new | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: thanks | 15:33 |
| regXboi | and +1 on the infra discussion | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: what are the two infra ones. | 15:34 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: do you have the links | 15:34 |
| haleyb | the dvr job does seem higher than neutron-full fwiw | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255325/ -make dvr job voting again | 15:34 |
| haleyb | which had some good comments from kyle, doug and swami | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: the single voting job was pushed last week based on our agreement. | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | But there were a couple of comments on that patch. | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | if we need to go for voting on single node job or multinode job? | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | What is the reason that we need to go in for single node job? | 15:36 |
| regXboi | well, ideally, we want multinode to be voting and single node to go away | 15:36 |
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| haleyb | The comment on the single-node was to change it to be a check only job | 15:36 |
| regXboi | but multinode (of both types) are rather ill | 15:36 |
| regXboi | and I agree to that idea - single node can be check only | 15:36 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: is but we don't want to wait until the multinode job gets stable, if single node job is stable, then we should vote and then start working on multinode to prevent further regression. | 15:37 |
| regXboi | honestly, having single node vote in the gate isn't really useful, is it? | 15:37 |
| obondarev | both multinode jobs are affected by some block live migration failure | 15:37 |
| regXboi | obondarev: ack | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: regXboi: what is the difference between having it in check versus the other. | 15:37 |
| obondarev | not related to dvr I guess | 15:37 |
| obondarev | and not sure if related to neutron | 15:37 |
| regXboi | so, we *had* single node voting before, remember? | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: why do you think so that voting single node is not useful. | 15:38 |
| regXboi | and it led to regressions because it doesn't really *test* anything | 15:38 |
| regXboi | DVR without multinode isn't really DVR | 15:38 |
| obondarev | +1 | 15:39 |
| regXboi | and dougwig + mestery (and armax I expect) are pointing that out | 15:39 |
| regXboi | and after thinking about it, they are correct | 15:39 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: but do we need to delay the single node voting because of multinode that is my point. | 15:39 |
| Swami_ | once multinode gets voting we can remove the single node job. | 15:40 |
| regXboi | the push back is "making single node voting doesn't mean anything because it isn't really testing DVR" | 15:40 |
| regXboi | and I can't argue with that | 15:40 |
| regXboi | in fact, I'd argue that we might as well just remove singlenode DVR completely | 15:40 |
| haleyb | right, and we want to reduce the number of rechecks in the gate | 15:40 |
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| regXboi | as a non voting job it doesn't do anything | 15:40 |
| Swami_ | obondarev: as you pointed out in multinode the live migration is a blocker right now, until we fix that bug. | 15:40 |
| regXboi | as a voting job it doesn't do anything | 15:40 |
| regXboi | so why is it there? | 15:40 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: were things different when we discussed this last week. | 15:41 |
| regXboi | Swami_: yes, I had forgotten a bit of history that I went and boned up on after the comment stream | 15:41 |
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| Swami_ | regXboi: thanks | 15:41 |
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| Swami_ | regXboi: first I would say that the tempest tests were not specifically written for multinode jobs. | 15:42 |
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| haleyb | Swami_: and as you noticed, the dvr job is already in the check queue, it's just not voting | 15:43 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes I see that. | 15:43 |
| regXboi | Swami_: doesn't that sorta translate into "the tempest tests were not specifically written for DVR?" | 15:43 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: not only DVR any multinode scenario is not well handled for the multinode case. | 15:43 |
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| Swami_ | regXboi: yes we need to fix all the tests before attempting to make the multinode voting, that is my argument. | 15:44 |
| regXboi | Swami_: granted, but I don't see why that's a reason to (a) make the single node dvr job voting or (b) keep the single node job around | 15:44 |
| regXboi | whoa | 15:44 |
| regXboi | I'm not talking about making the multinode job voting now | 15:44 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: haleyb: agreed | 15:44 |
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| regXboi | that's the end goal, yes, but we are nowhere *close* to that one | 15:45 |
| Swami_ | So the agreement here by the team is not to make single node job vote and move forward with voting the multinode job. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | If the single now job isn't testing anything more than the non dvr one, why has it been falling more? | 15:45 |
| Swami_ | #agree | 15:45 |
| regXboi | uh... not exactly | 15:45 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I didn't quite parse that | 15:46 |
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| haleyb | right, has the single-node job caught anything? | 15:46 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: I like your question. | 15:46 |
| regXboi | I'll ask the question this way | 15:46 |
| haleyb | although i guess since it's not voting the net is always empty | 15:46 |
| regXboi | (1) why should the single node DVR job be voting? | 15:46 |
| regXboi | (2) if there is no good answer to #1, why does the singe node DVR job exist? | 15:46 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: I think you have not answered for carl_baldwin question above. | 15:47 |
| regXboi | and I've not heard a reason for #1 that holds up yet | 15:47 |
| regXboi | Swami_: I didn't *parse* carl_baldwin's question above | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, the single now job has caught problems with dvr. | 15:47 |
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| Swami_ | s/now/node | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_ knows this | 15:48 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: recently? | 15:48 |
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| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: I agree, the only one thing that the single node did not catch is the live migration that involves two or more nodes. | 15:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: does it matter when? | 15:49 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: yes actually it does | 15:49 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: if the answer is Yes, then why should we remove the job | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: why? | 15:49 |
| regXboi | if the answer is "yes, recently" than keeping the job makes sense | 15:49 |
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| regXboi | if the answer is "yes, but not recently" then having the multi-node job covers it | 15:50 |
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| regXboi | in other words: "what is the single node job testing that the multi node job isn't" | 15:50 |
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| Swami_ | regXboi: as I mentioned above, the additional tests that the multinode job is testing is the nova live migration that is only turned on when there are more than one nodes. | 15:51 |
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| regXboi | Swami_: that's not the answer I think you want to give me | 15:51 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: what do you expect? | 15:51 |
| regXboi | If the set of tests from multinode is a superset of the tests of single node then why does single node exist | 15:51 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: it is a stepping stone. | 15:52 |
| haleyb | regXboi: well, it is testing the namespace manager code, as that aspect differs | 15:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I haven't seen that the multinode job is anywhere near working well. Why not have the single node, which is close, in the mean time? | 15:52 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I believe these are the arguements that will need to be made to the infra folks | 15:53 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: that is exactly what I am thinking. Until the multinode job is stable and ready let us depend on the single node. | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Someone has said that the single node test doesn't test *anything*. That is bogus. | 15:53 |
| regXboi | I said that | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | What they should be saying is that the single node test doesn't test all that might be testable in a multinode. | 15:54 |
| regXboi | and except for haleyb's statement, I rather stand by it | 15:54 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: fyi, see the discussion in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255325/ from doug and kyle (and swami) if you haven't already | 15:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | But, in its current form, the multi-node test barely tests anything more and it is a lot more broken. | 15:54 |
| haleyb | regXboi: right, packet flow via namespaces and OVS rules is different | 15:54 |
| regXboi | haleyb's namespace manager statement is the first thing I've seen that I think single node can hang its hat on | 15:54 |
| Swami_ | my thoughts. | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | When multi-node is serving its purpose well, there is no need for single node. I agree with you there. But, for now, no one will pay attention to it for anything because it is broken. | 15:55 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I'll give you a +1 on that | 15:56 |
| Swami_ | If we don't make the single node job voting we will be constantly fixing bugs which are due to new updates. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | So, suggesting we remove single now, that it has no purpose, is premature. | 15:56 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ok, that's self consistent reasoning for keeping it | 15:57 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: agreed | 15:57 |
| regXboi | but that's not enough to make it voting | 15:57 |
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| regXboi | or at least, I don't think it is | 15:58 |
| regXboi | yet | 15:58 |
| regXboi | now - haleyb's comments about namespace and packet flow I think *might be* | 15:58 |
| haleyb | regXboi: this gets at "noone will notice" if a non-voting job fails, we don't want to slide backwards | 15:58 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: may be thinks will change next week or by 2016, if you think through. | 15:58 |
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| Swami_ | s/thinks/things | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: That was only arguing to not get rid of the single node job not to be conflated with any arguments to make it voting. | 15:59 |
| haleyb | we are almost out of time | 15:59 |
| hichihara | Can I ask dvr floks in last? | 15:59 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack | 15:59 |
| hichihara | I wonder if DVR floks will review a linuxbridge DVR spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255174/ | 15:59 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: apologies for conflation | 15:59 |
| Swami_ | hichihara: will od | 15:59 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: so you don't think it should vote in the check job? | 15:59 |
| Swami_ | s/od/do | 15:59 |
| hichihara | Swami_: Thanks :) | 15:59 |
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| Swami_ | we are at the top of the hour | 16:00 |
| haleyb | we will have to keep talking in #neutron as out of time | 16:00 |
| Swami_ | we can discuss it in IRC or on the voting job patch. | 16:00 |
| haleyb | have a happy new year everyone, and thanks for the great work | 16:00 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 16 16:00:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: I didn't say that. I'm not sure if it is ready to be voting or not | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2015/neutron_dvr.2015-12-16-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2015/neutron_dvr.2015-12-16-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2015/neutron_dvr.2015-12-16-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| Swami_ | wish you all a happy holidays and new year. | 16:00 |
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| Swami_ | bye | 16:00 |
| hichihara | bye | 16:00 |
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| obondarev | bye | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | Hi Ml2’ers! | 16:00 |
| yalie | hi all | 16:01 |
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| scheuran | hi | 16:01 |
| pc_m | hi | 16:02 |
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| yamahata | hello | 16:02 |
| rkukura | looks like we have quorum | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto, sc68cal, anyone else here for ML2? | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | let’s get started… | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 16 16:03:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/ML2&action=edit§ion=2 | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Anyone want to add anything to the agenda? | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 16:05 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev is is out next two weeks, and I’m out the week after next, so no meeting on 12/30 | 16:05 |
| rkukura | quick poll - do we want to meet next week, 12/23? | 16:05 |
| pc_m | I'm on PTO | 16:06 |
| yamamoto | i'll be absent | 16:06 |
| yamahata | will be absent | 16:06 |
| rkukura | OK, we won’t meet 12/23 or 13/30! | 16:06 |
| rkukura | Any other announcements? | 16:07 |
| scheuran | will be absent as well | 16:07 |
| rkukura | #action rkukura to update agenda indicating no meetings until 2016 | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | #topic Driver API for SecurityGroup | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: Looks like the enforcement part of this was rejected by neutron-drivers, at least for now | 16:08 |
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| yamamoto | yea i saw it | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | yalie, yamamoto: What’s the status on the callbacks part? | 16:10 |
| yalie | rkukura: I think callback work fine | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | OK | 16:10 |
| yamahata | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252755/ | 16:10 |
| yalie | rkukura: it could give the function that similar with precommit in MD | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | On the enforcement part, I plan to folowup in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1518087 to make the case that a general extension semantics enforcement mechanism is needed, but I doubt this will happen in mitaka. | 16:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1518087 in neutron "[RFE] Method to guarantee that at least one mechanism driver implements security groups" [Wishlist,Won't fix] - Assigned to yalei wang (yalei-wang) | 16:11 |
| rkukura | yalie: thanks | 16:11 |
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| rkukura | Anything else on SGs? | 16:12 |
| yalie | rkukura: great, I will continue watch this part | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | #topic Driver status coalescing/visibility | 16:13 |
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| yamahata | no update from me | 16:13 |
| rkukura | yamahata: thanks. I haven’t heard from asomya or John Joyce yet either | 16:14 |
| rkukura | I’d like to see some discussion get started on this, even if its not going to make mitaka | 16:14 |
| rkukura | #topic Trunk port binding for VLAN-awere VMs | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | From the neutron IRC, it sounds like the API for this has been agreed, and it will move forward during mitaka | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | Any update on this? | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | Has anyone given any thought to the ML2 portbinding aspect yet? I have not had a chance, but will. | 16:17 |
| rkukura | OK, lets move on... | 16:17 |
| rkukura | #topic Modular l2 agent & macvtap | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | scheuran: This seems to be coming along - any update? | 16:18 |
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| scheuran | not much progress this week | 16:18 |
| scheuran | still waiting for the extension manager stuff to move in https://review.openstack.org/250542 | 16:18 |
| scheuran | I'm confident that we can land it this week | 16:19 |
| rkukura | scheuran: I’ll re-review | 16:19 |
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| scheuran | it would be helpful if you guys could have a look at the linuxbride split patch | 16:19 |
| scheuran | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246318/ | 16:19 |
| scheuran | especially at the interface between the common part and the linuxbridge impl | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | scheuran: I see that one is still WIP | 16:20 |
| rkukura | and may be having CI issues | 16:20 |
| scheuran | yes, I put it to WIP, as I need to rebase it on top of the extension manager thing after that merged | 16:20 |
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| scheuran | The CI issues are really strange | 16:21 |
| rkukura | scheuran: I’d suggest removing the WIP so that it gets more reviewer attention | 16:21 |
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| scheuran | it's either an ovs test case that's failing or the grenade job... | 16:21 |
| scheuran | rkukura, ok | 16:21 |
| rkukura | scheuran: Are these CI failures related to the agent changes? | 16:21 |
| scheuran | rkukura, no should not! but it makes me thinking, that after 5 rechecks I still have failures... | 16:22 |
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| scheuran | ok, so I will do another recheck, and remove the WIP as soon as I got an ok from jenkins | 16:24 |
| rkukura | scheuran: Sounds good. I’ll re-review. | 16:24 |
| rkukura | Anything else on this? | 16:24 |
| scheuran | rkukura, I think it's sufficient to focus on the interface for now | 16:24 |
| scheuran | rkukura, no, thanks! | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | I don’t see shivharis or asomya, so I think we’ll skip topology service once again | 16:25 |
| rkukura | #topic limited-portsec Discussion | 16:25 |
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| yalie | this feature is pending on the direction | 16:26 |
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| yalie | it's difficult to handle with the dependency btween extension, portsec and limited-portsec | 16:27 |
| rkukura | yalie, ajo: Do you want to discuss this now? | 16:27 |
| yalie | my current work is do all the check in new limited-portsec, but that will also touch the portsec's code | 16:27 |
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| yalie | yes | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | yalie: Is that the code currently under review? | 16:28 |
| yalie | yes | 16:28 |
| yalie | it's a draft code. | 16:29 |
| yalie | and ajo has comments on the direction. | 16:30 |
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| yalie | I think I serach for the wrong name mangelajo. | 16:30 |
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| yalie | we can discuss off line | 16:30 |
| rkukura | yalie: Makes sense, especially since ajo doesn’t seem to be responding now | 16:31 |
| rkukura | This one is on my to-review list as well | 16:31 |
| yalie | rkukura: okay | 16:31 |
| yalie | rkukura: thank you! | 16:31 |
| rkukura | Anything else on limited-portsec? | 16:32 |
| rkukura | moving along quickly today… | 16:32 |
| yalie | rkukura: I have submit searveal patches for it, but because it break compatible I abandone them | 16:32 |
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| yalie | rkukura: any comments would be appreciated | 16:32 |
| rkukura | yalie: OK - I had been loosely following the discussion on the earlier patches, and will review this one in detail | 16:33 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:33 |
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| yalie | rkukura: thanks! | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | I’m sure sukhdev would appreciate a reminder to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255614/, which I have not personally gotten around to yet | 16:35 |
| rkukura | Is Mitchell Jameson here? | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | Anything to discuss today, or are we done? | 16:36 |
| scheuran | nothing from my side | 16:37 |
| rkukura | lets wrap it up then… | 16:37 |
| rkukura | Enjoy the holidays and time off, and see you all next year! | 16:38 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 16 16:38:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-12-16-16.03.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-12-16-16.03.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-12-16-16.03.log.html | 16:38 |
| yalie | thanks rkukura | 16:38 |
| yamahata | bye | 16:38 |
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| scheuran | Enjoy your holidays, bye! | 16:38 |
| yamamoto | bye | 16:38 |
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| yalie | bye | 16:39 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 16 17:02:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic roll Call | 17:02 |
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| rsyed | o/ | 17:03 |
| pglass | o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | sorry - got distracted | 17:03 |
| timsim | o? | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
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| elarson | o/ | 17:03 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082256.html | 17:03 |
| mugsie | The Designate mid cycle has been set for the HPE Offices, in Galway, | 17:04 |
| mugsie | Ireland [0] from the 08th to the 10th of February. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #link https://ti.to/designate/mitaka-mid-cycle | 17:04 |
| mugsie | if you are joining us ^ | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Woo to no travel for me :) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | please fill in that form | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | yay | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | Kiall bp e6adbb9 | 17:05 |
| mugsie | Kiall investiagte 1505605 | 17:05 |
| mugsie | Kiall: ^ | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Humm, not that I know of. Havent looked in ~2 week | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #action Kiall investiagte 1505605 | 17:06 |
| Kiall | 1505605 doine | 17:06 |
| Kiall | done* | 17:06 |
| Kiall | as won't fix | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #action Kiall bp e6adbb9 | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #action mugie bp ed2ba15 Merge "Check TXT record length limit" | 17:06 |
| mugsie | I forgot about ^ | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:06 | |
| Kiall | I also think the BP is done.. need to check to | 17:06 |
| Kiall | tho* | 17:06 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1525019 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525019 in Designate "mdns.get_serial_number retries for no reason" [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
| Kiall | Yea, it was done. | 17:07 |
| timsim | I still need to investigate 1516355 | 17:07 |
| mugsie | 1525019 - not sure | 17:08 |
| mugsie | I am not 100% what that function is supposed to do | 17:08 |
| mugsie | Kiall: you any idea? | 17:08 |
| timsim | My impression was that it was a sync version of the async poll_for_serial number. | 17:08 |
| Kiall | I believe timsim's comments in the ticket are correct, it should be just getting the current number | 17:08 |
| timsim | Which, if that's the case, it shouldn't be retrying waiting for anything, just getting the current value. | 17:09 |
| timsim | That's getting called a lot during `update_status` in the pool manager. | 17:09 |
| mugsie | in that case H - M2 | 17:09 |
| Kiall | retrying, sure, if it fails to get a response.. but retrying because it's an unexpected serial number seems wrong | 17:09 |
| timsim | Basically whenever the first poll_for_serial comes back from mdns, pool manager goes and calls get_serial for every other target. | 17:09 |
| timsim | That isn't in the cache | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | timsim: oo, that also sounds like a bug | 17:09 |
| Kiall | since we'll get those numbers back from the initial calls to poll for serial, we don't want to ask for it twice | 17:10 |
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| timsim | If it didn't do that, and the last of the poll for serials gets lost, then the zone stays PENDING forever. | 17:10 |
| timsim | The way it works now, anyway. | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Yea, I get that.. Still feels wrong! | 17:11 |
| timsim | No arguments here :P | 17:11 |
| timsim | That's a much trickier fix than this one. | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Okay, well.. let's leave that issue for now ;) | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:11 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1525199 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525199 in Designate "designate-dashboard: clear "Create Record" form fields" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
| mugsie | should be in progress | 17:11 |
| mugsie | assigned to federico3 | 17:11 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to file bug re update_status unnecessarily calling out to get_serial (see IRC meeting logs) | 17:11 |
| Kiall | 1525199 should be done, it failed gate due to a tox upgrade, but it otherwise +A'd | 17:12 |
| timsim | Kiall: I go more in detph about that here: https://github.com/TimSimmons/poolmanageroops#update_status | 17:12 |
| Kiall | timsim: I've seen that doc, and mostly like ;) | 17:12 |
| Kiall | 1525199 might be a duplicate | 17:12 |
| Kiall | federico3: about? | 17:13 |
| timsim | Gerrit appears to be down so we can't check the review :P | 17:13 |
| Kiall | Nope, it's not - checked our JIRA and he refs that # | 17:13 |
| timsim | Ah "Gerrit is offline for a software upgrade from 17:00 to 21:00 UTC. " | 17:13 |
| Kiall | It's in-progress, high, m2 | 17:13 |
| timsim | cool | 17:13 |
| timsim | That's it | 17:13 |
| mugsie | sweet | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/1534.gif | 17:14 |
| Kiall | mugsie: can you get the list? I actually don't have anything cloned, wiped PC yesterday. | 17:14 |
| Kiall | nvm - got it | 17:15 |
| Kiall | http://paste.openstack.org/show/482107/ | 17:15 |
| Kiall | (0f5fd24 Fix tox ValueError: No closing quotation <-- hasn't landed yet, but it needs a backport as otherwise the gate is wedged) | 17:15 |
| Kiall | ee5efbf Object model: require "priority" field | 17:16 |
| mugsie | 937e6dd Set zone in ERROR status on periodic sync fail | 17:16 |
| mugsie | ee5efbf Object model: require "priority" field | 17:16 |
| timsim | Yep, all of those. | 17:16 |
| Kiall | any others? | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | actually - that's all bar the setup.cfg one | 17:16 |
| mugsie | anyone want to sign up to do these? | 17:16 |
| Kiall | I'll ask federico3 to do em in the morning | 17:17 |
| * mugsie is on holidays from tomrrow | 17:17 | |
| mugsie | OK, cool | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #action federico3 to do backports | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #topic Unhandled exception during periodic | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | #topic Unhandled exception during periodic sync | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | this was federico3 as well, so we may push this for a week or so | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | / past the holidays | 17:18 |
| mugsie | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | mlavalle seems to be off ... | 17:18 |
| mugsie | we will get an update post holidays | 17:18 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | anything of agenda? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | off* | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | Next week cancelled? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | yeah - everyone OK skipping the meeting next week? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | and the week after? | 17:19 |
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| timsim | Yep, everyone's off here i think. | 17:19 |
| timsim | Same. | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Okay, next meeting is... Jan 6th|? | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | #action mugsie Cancel meetings for 2 weeks | 17:20 |
| mugsie | we will resume on the 6th | 17:20 |
| mugsie | of Jan | 17:20 |
| mugsie | 2016 | 17:20 |
| mugsie | anything else? | 17:20 |
| timsim | I put up a pretty crazy spec here: https://review.openstack.org/258621 (https://gist.github.com/TimSimmons/510ae418de6804f5e5da while gerrit is down). It'd be a big change, but I think it'd be pretty cool. Give it a look and shout at me (and pglass) if you think we're mental. | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/1528.gif | 17:21 |
| timsim | Started from some elarson ideas, although I'm not sure how on board he is with the current state ;) | 17:21 |
| Kiall | timsim: yea, I had a quick read of the doc on GH yesterday.. ++ to most of it :) | 17:21 |
| elarson | timsim: nah, I'm just thinking about the extreme cases of the design. not important | 17:21 |
| elarson | taking a trip to mars on my architect astronaut space ship :P | 17:22 |
| timsim | Well, I'd love to hear people's thoughts on the bits that they don't ++ :) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | elarson: alwayts going to the extreme | 17:22 |
| * Kiall would like to see any "worker" service be TaskFlow based :) | 17:22 | |
| mugsie | which means ZK, basically | 17:22 |
| mugsie | sorry timsim | 17:22 |
| * timsim would not like to see that at all | 17:22 | |
| Kiall | lol - why? | 17:22 |
| Kiall | not like ZK or TF? | 17:22 |
| timsim | Both lol | 17:23 |
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| timsim | What's wrong with RPC casts? | 17:23 |
| timsim | I'm not psyched about using another Openstack "NIH" type project (although I'll admit I don't know a ton about TaskFlow, other than knowing one of the OG people who started it, and has long since left it) | 17:23 |
| * mugsie thinks this will be a hot topic on Galway | 17:23 | |
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| Kiall | TaskFlow enforces a nice structuring, and gives us stuff for "free".. e.g. define a flow for checking the status.. Flow(WaitForSerial(server1, expected=123, retries=10),WaitForSerial(server2, expected=123, retries=10), onfail=RollBackChange(change)) | 17:24 |
| Kiall | etc | 17:24 |
| kobis | anyone able to reach gerrit? | 17:24 |
| * timsim will look into it | 17:24 | |
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| mugsie | kobis: its down | 17:24 |
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| mugsie | they are upgrading it today | 17:24 |
| timsim | kobis: down for maint from 17:00 to 21:00 UTC | 17:24 |
| Kiall | [17:08:32] [openstackstatus] NOTICE: Gerrit is offline for a software upgrade from 17:00 to 21:00 UTC. See: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081037.html | 17:24 |
| elarson | !blame rsyed | 17:24 |
| openstack | elarson: Error: "blame" is not a valid command. | 17:24 |
| rsyed | nice try | 17:24 |
| elarson | :) | 17:24 |
| kobis | thanks | 17:25 |
| mugsie | elarson: http://replygif.net/i/1501.gif | 17:25 |
| mugsie | OK, everyoine look at the outstanging specs (when gerrit is back) | 17:25 |
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| elarson | mugsie is on :fire: with the giffage today | 17:26 |
| Kiall | timsim: anyway, taskflow is nice, even if it's an OS NIH project.. | 17:26 |
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| mugsie | until then, unless there is anything else - lets call it a day? | 17:26 |
| * timsim has PTSD from oslo_* | 17:26 | |
| Kiall | might try convince one of the Cue folks to talk about it at the mid-cycle (via video..) ;) | 17:26 |
| mugsie | timsim looking at olso_* code - http://replygif.net/i/961.gif | 17:27 |
| mugsie | and on that note | 17:27 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 16 17:27:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-12-16-17.02.html | 17:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-12-16-17.02.txt | 17:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-12-16-17.02.log.html | 17:27 |
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| timsim | More like http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEyLzllL1ByaWRlYW5kUHJlLjlmYjg4LmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/f8f9ae1f/624/Pride-and-Prejudice.gif | 17:27 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:27 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:27 |
| elarson | laterz | 17:27 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:27 |
| Kiall | o| | 17:27 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:27 |
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| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 16 18:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| cp16net | howdy everyone | 18:00 |
| amrith | howdy cp16net | 18:00 |
| cp16net | i'll give a few minutes for people to trickle in | 18:01 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:01 |
| cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
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| pmalik | !/ | 18:01 |
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| openstack | pmalik: Error: "/" is not a valid command. | 18:01 |
| imandhan | o/ | 18:01 |
| mvandijk | ./ | 18:02 |
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| atomic77 | ~\\o//~ | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | #topic pulse update | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pulse update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:04 | |
| cp16net | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:04 |
| cp16net | we've dropped down a bit and the queue is growing | 18:04 |
| cp16net | this is probably due to the holidays coming up and working on new features | 18:05 |
| * amrith mumbles that review.openstack.org has been down for a bit | 18:05 | |
| amrith | 503 Service Unavailable | 18:05 |
| cp16net | yeah i saw an announcement that it will be down 1700-2100 today | 18:05 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:06 |
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| amrith | I was going to do all the reviews and make everything good again. but damnit, they are down ;) | 18:06 |
| cp16net | i'd expect the reviews to continue on a low pace as the holidays are coming up over the next couple weeks | 18:07 |
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| dougshelley66 | this is when everyone says they had blocked out the whole afternoon to do reviews | 18:07 |
| cp16net | i'm sure many will be out | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | (i will be) | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | i'll bring up more about that a little later | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | any other comments on the reviews? | 18:08 |
| cp16net | other than they are down atm | 18:08 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | ok | 18:09 |
| cp16net | moving along | 18:09 |
| cp16net | #topic spec approvals | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "spec approvals (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:10 | |
| cp16net | there were a few emails on the ML about specs in the pipe line | 18:10 |
| cp16net | i want to reiterate that these are welcome | 18:11 |
| cp16net | the reason for pushing for the specs to be approved in the last few weeks was so that we dont have them waiting till the last minute to be approved | 18:12 |
| cp16net | i really appreciate everyone stepping up and helping make that happen | 18:12 |
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| cp16net | so there are a few specs still in the queue | 18:13 |
| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/trove-specs,n,z | 18:13 |
| cp16net | if gerrit was working... | 18:13 |
| amrith | ;) | 18:13 |
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| cp16net | one of them is the pxc grow shrink | 18:14 |
| amrith | didn't that merge? | 18:14 |
| cp16net | it did not | 18:14 |
| cp16net | there were comments on it and i updated it | 18:14 |
| cp16net | i recall seeing a few others yesterday in the queue as well | 18:15 |
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| imandhan | my couchdb operations one is in queue. I'll be updating it tonight based on feedback I've gotten. was out for a couple days hence the delay | 18:15 |
| cp16net | wrt the new specs mentioned on the ML | 18:15 |
| cp16net | lets get those written up soon | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | i was hoping that Santa would put them under the tree.... | 18:16 |
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| cp16net | soon ~= before the end of the year | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | well that could be tough | 18:17 |
| cp16net | yeah | 18:17 |
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| cp16net | dougshelley66: is it reasonable to think that they could be done by the end of the first week of jan? | 18:18 |
| dougshelley66 | by "done" i assume you mean in review? | 18:18 |
| dougshelley66 | i have no control over having them merge | 18:18 |
| cp16net | i mean reviewable | 18:18 |
| cp16net | right | 18:19 |
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| dougshelley66 | Jan 8th is probably a reasonable goal | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | ok lets shoot for the new specs to be up by then | 18:19 |
| cp16net | so that leads to some announcements | 18:20 |
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| cp16net | if there are no other comments reguarding the specs | 18:21 |
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| imandhan | and if I remember correctly by M2, the implementation should be delivered for review? | 18:21 |
| cp16net | imandhan: i was getting to that in the announcements :0 | 18:21 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:21 |
| cp16net | #topic announcements | 18:22 |
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| cp16net | #info Last week of February is Feature freeze for M-3 | 18:22 |
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| cp16net | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 18:22 |
| amrith | cp16net, I'm confused | 18:22 |
| amrith | it would be good if you could summarize the timeline you expect. | 18:22 |
| amrith | I thought deliverables were by m3 | 18:22 |
| cp16net | amrith: ok | 18:23 |
| cp16net | so i'll work backwards from the m3 time | 18:23 |
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| cp16net | m-3 Feb29-mar4 | 18:23 |
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| cp16net | this is when the m3 milestone will be cut | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | at that time bp new features will not be allowed to be merged without exceptions | 18:25 |
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| cp16net | so to help combat this issue that we had at the end of the cycle last time i'd like see reviews made by the time m-2 rolls around | 18:26 |
| cp16net | at the latest the beginning of feb | 18:26 |
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| cp16net | so that we dont compete with the gate as much | 18:26 |
| cp16net | these are soft dates that i would like shoot for | 18:27 |
| vgnbkr | What does "reviews made" mean? | 18:27 |
| cp16net | reviews made means code proposed | 18:28 |
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| vgnbkr | I don't think our issue is getting people to put code up, the issue is getting +2's on either the bp or the change. | 18:30 |
| cp16net | vgnbkr: yeah but we should have time to get that resolved as well | 18:30 |
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| cp16net | i'm mentioning this in hopes that this could help and bring up issues earlier | 18:31 |
| cp16net | if this is crazy please call me out on it | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | but i think this time line follows closely with the release schedule | 18:33 |
| dougshelley66 | cp16net I don't think you are crazy. The implication of pulling them deadlines in/enforcing them more is that some stuff will end up out of Mitaka | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | dougshelley66: right and if the features are not complete by m-3 then its very likely to be out of Mitaka | 18:34 |
| dougshelley66 | I assume your goal is to attempt to achieve a higher quality deliverable at the end of teh cycle. This comes with a coset | 18:34 |
| dougshelley66 | s/coset/cost/ | 18:34 |
| dougshelley66 | and in the case of a fixed time release cycle the cost is the # of included fixes/features | 18:35 |
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| cp16net | yeah | 18:35 |
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| cp16net | there has been talk about changing the release cycle | 18:35 |
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| cp16net | if trove didnt follow the release milestones we might not have the same issues | 18:37 |
| cp16net | the release team is working on making this easier for projects if they so choose | 18:37 |
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| cp16net | dougshelley66: we've always had the 3rd milestone deadline feature freeze | 18:38 |
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| cp16net | so this is not new | 18:38 |
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| cp16net | i'm hopeful that we can complete the features proposed and get them merged | 18:39 |
| cp16net | but with the # of them proposed and judging from the past we may need a plan to move them forward | 18:40 |
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| cp16net | ok any other comments on this? | 18:41 |
| cp16net | one other announcements i'd like to remind everyone of if the voting | 18:41 |
| cp16net | #inf find an email sent out yesterday to vote for the N and O release | 18:41 |
| cp16net | #info find an email sent out yesterday to vote for the N and O release | 18:41 |
| cp16net | #topic open discussion | 18:42 |
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| amrith | I have one | 18:43 |
| cp16net | amrith: go ahead | 18:43 |
| amrith | I'd love to share the link to a review but ... | 18:43 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:43 |
| cp16net | which one? | 18:44 |
| amrith | I was fixing a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-troveclient/+bug/1461196 | 18:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461196 in python-troveclient "eliminate some of the last vestiges of 'slave_of'" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Amrith (amrith) | 18:44 |
| amrith | the idea was to remove the use of slave in the API | 18:44 |
| amrith | in favor of replica | 18:44 |
| amrith | as we had agreed when replication came out originally. | 18:44 |
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| amrith | The review is hung up because a couple of people want me to change the name of variables in the code. | 18:44 |
| amrith | it is (a) not within scope of the fix, and (b) I see no point in changing variable names in one file when the same issue is all over the source code. | 18:45 |
| amrith | I guess the question falls kind-of flat given that gerritt is down | 18:45 |
| amrith | but I don't want to waste time on this fix if it is going to languish | 18:45 |
| amrith | so I'd like some guidance. | 18:46 |
| cp16net | worst case is make an action item to bring it up at the next meeting or in the channel once gerrit is back up | 18:46 |
| amrith | sounds good | 18:46 |
| cp16net | maybe not "wosrt" case | 18:46 |
| amrith | but "worst" case ;) | 18:46 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:47 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:47 |
| amrith | ok, next week it is. | 18:47 |
| cp16net | understandable concern tho | 18:47 |
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| cp16net | #action amrith bring up concerns on review https://review.openstack.org/245738 | 18:48 |
| cp16net | anything else? | 18:48 |
| cp16net | thanks everyone | 18:48 |
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| cp16net | #endmeeting | 18:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 16 18:48:45 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-12-16-18.00.html | 18:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-12-16-18.00.txt | 18:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-12-16-18.00.log.html | 18:48 |
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| cp16net | oh crap i ment to add soemthing else | 18:49 |
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| cp16net | i'll ask in #openstack-trove | 18:49 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 16 20:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| johnsom | LBaaS/Octavia/FWaaS mid-cycle Jan 12-15th in San Antonio | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-mitaka-midcycle | 20:01 |
| eranra | hello | 20:01 |
| johnsom | GSLB/Kosmos mid-cycle Jan 20-22 in Seattle | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kosmos_2016_winter_midcycle_meetup | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Hi eranra, welcome | 20:02 |
| kobis | hi | 20:02 |
| johnsom | We will be taking a break for this meeting. We will resume January 6th. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 20:03 |
| ajmiller | Hi | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:03 | |
| johnsom | I have been working on testing/bug fixes for the active/standby fail over flow. Deleting the LB now works correctly. I hope to wrap that up today. I have one more bug to look into. | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | I also found that our health monitoring had a problem. We were failing over deleted amphora. I have a couple of patches in progress for that too. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Any other progress reports? | 20:05 |
| johnsom | #topic Bug review | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:06 | |
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| johnsom | Ok, I wanted to bring some visibility to the bugs we have in launchpad for Octavia. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | We will see how this goes. This week might not be the best week to start as we have a low turnout | 20:06 |
| dougwig | i'm hoping one of them is whatever is making the lbaas gate semi-random. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | I am starting with the open critical bugs. | 20:07 |
| johnsom | dougwig I don't think we have an open bug for the one I have seen related to test order. | 20:07 |
| johnsom | #action johnsom to open bug for test order bug | 20:08 |
| johnsom | First up: #1490033 Devstack scripts need to enable lb-network controller IP | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | This one is about not having an interface on the lb-mgmt-subnet available for the controller when running under devstack | 20:08 |
| johnsom | It needs somebody that knows how to plumb in the interface under devstack. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | #1491560 Deleting a non-existing member deletes the actual member | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Next is a member issue. Has anyone tried this out recently? I haven't had a chance. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | I'll take that as a no. | 20:11 |
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| johnsom | #1509706 Failover fails when instance is deleted | 20:11 |
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| johnsom | This one needs some discussion. Again, might need to bring up again when folks are back. | 20:11 |
| dougwig | i think everyone is drunk on egg nog or something. | 20:11 |
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| johnsom | The issue here is the fail over flow expects the amphora to be present in nova to gather information from it. | 20:12 |
| johnsom | If, for whatever reason, the amphora is no longer in nova fail over fails. | 20:12 |
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| johnsom | I think this is a bug, but it could be an RFE type thing. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Any comments? | 20:13 |
| eranra | johnsonm, any specific one, to pick? i need to practice bug fixing | 20:14 |
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| johnsom | eranra Great! I would recommend investigating the 1491560 or the next one 1514510 as starters | 20:14 |
| eranra | will do. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | #1514510 Delete of last member does not remove it from haproxy config | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | Again this is one that probably needs to be re-tested and confirm it is still an issue. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | So, those are the currently open critical bugs. Please feel inspired to take one on! | 20:16 |
| johnsom | #topic Holiday meeting schedule | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Holiday meeting schedule (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:16 | |
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| johnsom | As I mentioned earlier, we will pick up these meetings on January 6th. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:17 | |
| johnsom | Any other topics? | 20:17 |
| dougwig | fastest lbaas meeting ever. | 20:17 |
| dougwig | move to adjourn. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | grin | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Ok, have a great break folks! | 20:18 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 16 20:18:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-12-16-20.00.html | 20:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-12-16-20.00.txt | 20:18 |
| ajmiller | bye! | 20:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-12-16-20.00.log.html | 20:18 |
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