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| dims_ | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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| dims_ | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, | 16:00 |
| dims_ | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 21 16:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| dims_ | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| dims_ | Anyone here today? | 16:00 |
| dims_ | :) | 16:00 |
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| rpodolyaka | o/ | 16:00 |
| gcb | hi | 16:00 |
| SpamapS | Oddly enough I'm kind of here... since there's no open schools for me to be taking kids to ;) | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | yoooo | 16:00 |
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| bknudson_ | hi | 16:00 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:00 |
| dims_ | haha SpamapS | 16:00 |
| dims_ | hi bknudson_ jecarey rpodolyaka gcb | 16:01 |
| bogdando | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims_ | hi bogdando | 16:01 |
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| dims_ | hopefully a quick one today | 16:01 |
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| dims_ | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:01 |
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| bknudson_ | nothing for keystone | 16:01 |
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| dims_ | thanks bknudson_ | 16:02 |
| dims_ | #topic Releases for Mitaka | 16:02 |
| dims_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259707/ | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ^ looks ok to me | 16:03 |
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| dims_ | rpodolyaka : can you please eye ball the oslo.db changes? see the list-changes job output | 16:03 |
| bknudson_ | nothing will break this week! | 16:03 |
| rpodolyaka | dims: looking | 16:03 |
| dims_ | bknudson_ :) | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson_, nothing ever breaks, obviously :) | 16:03 |
| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : i deliberatly held back the oslo.utils review for the timeutils stuff | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | good idear | 16:04 |
| rpodolyaka | dims_: oslo.db changes look good to me | 16:04 |
| rbradfor | dims_, sorry for the newbie question, what is list-changes job output? | 16:05 |
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| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : bknudson_ : https://travis-ci.org/dims/ looks green except for a nova py34 break that happens only in travis (need to dig into it) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims_, do u know if there is any ongoing infra change or something to start to highlight depreciation warnings in some manner? | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | did that whole conversation as what to do about depreciation warnings go anywhere? | 16:05 |
| dims_ | rbradfor : look in the review link above look for "gate-releases-tox-list-changes" job | 16:05 |
| dims_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259707/ | 16:05 |
| gcb | rbradfor, http://logs.openstack.org/07/259707/3/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes/f7993cc/console.html | 16:05 |
| rbradfor | dims_, gcb, got it, thanks. | 16:06 |
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| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : not that i heard about. we'll have to kick start something, probably based on the keystone mode | 16:06 |
| dims_ | model | 16:06 |
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| harlowja_at_home | right | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'd even be happy with like a alternate log file that depreciation warnings go to | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | that shows up in CI, and people can go look at... | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | *similar to all the other log files produced from CI runs | 16:07 |
| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : that may be an easy thing to pull off | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ya, might not be so hard | 16:07 |
| dims_ | let's find a pattern we can follow | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | def | 16:07 |
| dims_ | #topic Open discussion | 16:07 |
| dims_ | Any other stuck reviews? | 16:07 |
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| dims_ | rbradfor : if you see the travis link, that shows us running a bunch of py27,py34 tests by inserting oslo.* from master | 16:08 |
| bogdando | the work queue spec? | 16:08 |
| ozamiatin_ | dims_: hi, when we can add mutlinode grenade gate for zmq? | 16:08 |
| ozamiatin_ | dims_: how can I help with that? | 16:08 |
| dims_ | ozamiatin_ : whenever you are ready, need to figure out how to do that :) | 16:09 |
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| rbradfor | dims_, thanks, looking at the output. helps me understand the weekly release process. | 16:09 |
| dims_ | bogdando : so are you happy with what you have there in the spec? | 16:10 |
| ozamiatin_ | dims_: ok, I'll look into it :) | 16:10 |
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| bogdando | yes | 16:10 |
| bogdando | dims_, added example flow for a call | 16:10 |
| dims_ | bogdando : do we need to outline the API in the spec or we can do that later? | 16:10 |
| bogdando | addressed comments | 16:10 |
| bogdando | That depends on how deep we go in specs | 16:10 |
| bogdando | IMO, all API details should be outside | 16:11 |
| bogdando | as you suggested for example https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-messaging-work-queue-api | 16:11 |
| dims_ | bogdando : looks like some traffic in etherpad | 16:11 |
| dims_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-messaging-work-queue-api | 16:11 |
| dims_ | so i'll cast my +2 on the spec | 16:11 |
| bogdando | thank you | 16:11 |
| gcb | dims, harlowja_at_home> what's the right process if our new version of oslo lib breaks other projects ? just block the version in g-r ? | 16:12 |
| dims_ | gcb : we block in g-r, cut a new release with a fix | 16:12 |
| dims_ | sometimes we cut a new release first since g-r takes a while | 16:12 |
| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : gcb : ozamiatin_ : please cast your vote on the work queue spec too | 16:13 |
| gcb | you mean , fix and submit a commit in openstack/release firstly ? | 16:13 |
| dims_ | anyone else who is interested as well | 16:13 |
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| dims_ | gcb : yes, fix in say oslo.messaging, submit a commit in releases/ repo and then submit a commit in requirements/ repo | 16:14 |
| gcb | will look at the spec :-) | 16:14 |
| dims_ | thanks gcb : it has a long history | 16:14 |
| gcb | dims_ , got it ,thanks | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims_ bogdando ya, hmmm that one :-P i'm somewhat biased to say just move the taskflow jobboard concept to tooz and then poof, this whole spec sorta isn't needed (afaik) | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | so i'm refraining from my biased vote :-P | 16:15 |
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| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : let's see how it shakes out...right now i am saying "yes, we want/need it" :) | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, fair enough, idk how it will all shake out yet either | 16:16 |
| dims_ | gcb : do you want to take that timeutils up with the nova folks? | 16:16 |
| gcb | yes, so I need talk with nova guys in IRC and submit new commit , right ? | 16:17 |
| bogdando | harlowja, at least the failure modes and contracts might come in handy | 16:18 |
| dims_ | gcb : yes please, i'd say just submit a new commit first and then talk to them | 16:18 |
| bogdando | harlowja, that is how things should have been designed for RPC | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | bogdando, agreed | 16:18 |
| gcb | dims_ , ok, will do that | 16:18 |
| dims_ | so can we skip next week's meeting? | 16:18 |
| dims_ | meet next on Jan 4th? | 16:19 |
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| gcb | I think most of you are in holiday :-) | 16:19 |
| rpodolyaka | that's the best time to work :P | 16:19 |
| bknudson_ | I'm ok with skipping next meeting | 16:19 |
| dims_ | haha | 16:19 |
| ozamiatin_ | dims_: ok to skip | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | sureee | 16:20 |
| dims_ | rpodolyaka : gcb : +1 and the CI would be all ours too | 16:20 |
| rpodolyaka | :) | 16:20 |
| dims_ | cool. | 16:21 |
| dims_ | any other things we need to talk about? | 16:21 |
| dims_ | harlowja_at_home : you and me can poke on the deprecation stuff on infra | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims_, def | 16:21 |
| rbradfor | dims_, I have a few log/config/service specific questions. I'll bring up in oslo channel. | 16:22 |
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| dims_ | rbradfor : ack | 16:22 |
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| dims_ | so Wish everyone happy holidays and a very happy new year as well. (Russia/Ukraine - we'll wish you again next month :) | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:23 |
| gcb | :) | 16:23 |
| dims_ | thanks everyone | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | np! | 16:23 |
| dims_ | #endmeeting | 16:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 21 16:23:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-12-21-16.00.html | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-12-21-16.00.txt | 16:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-12-21-16.00.log.html | 16:23 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 21 19:00:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherine_d|1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:03 |
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| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: hello | 19:04 |
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| sslypushenko | o/ Hi, all! | 19:04 |
| pvaneck | hello! | 19:04 |
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| alevine | o/ | 19:05 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: Hi ... most of the poeple in the US are taking off starting this week? Is it the same in yoru areas? | 19:06 |
| catherine_d|1 | hi alevine: | 19:06 |
| catherine_d|1 | so we of most of us here .. | 19:06 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-12-21 | 19:06 |
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| sslypushenko | catherine_d|1: Nope | 19:07 |
| catherine_d|1 | #topic Confirm on data model | 19:07 |
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| catherine_d|1 | do we still need sometime to think about this? | 19:07 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: ic | 19:08 |
| sslypushenko | I think we got basic agreement on this | 19:08 |
| alevine | catherine_d: Didn't we agree to start with the object model? | 19:08 |
| sslypushenko | We can put object model in spec and discuss it on review | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko | It will be much more effective | 19:09 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #agreed Catherine start submitting spec including object model for formal discussion | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko | great! | 19:12 |
| catherine_d|1 | that make it easy ... | 19:12 |
| catherine_d|1 | #topic Do we need a meeting on 2015-12-28? | 19:13 |
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| sslypushenko | It will work for me, if needed | 19:14 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: pvaneck: how about you? | 19:14 |
| pvaneck | likely wont be around | 19:15 |
| alevine | catherine_d: I don't know. I can attend if required | 19:15 |
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| catherine_d|1 | alevine: are you on vacation? | 19:15 |
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| alevine | catherine_d: Nope. I'll be on vacation 1-10 in January. But maybe I'll be able to attend then as well. | 19:16 |
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| catherine_d|1 | ic then Let's have a meeting on Dec 28 and skip the meeting on Jan 4 | 19:16 |
| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: I know you are on vacation next week not a pressure for you to attend | 19:17 |
| catherine_d|1 | sounds good for everyone ... meeting on Dec 28 and skip Jan 4? | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko | +1 | 19:18 |
| pvaneck | that's fine | 19:18 |
| alevine | ok | 19:18 |
| catherine_d|1 | #agreed RefStack will have meeting on December 28. | 19:18 |
| pvaneck | in any case, a lot of discussion can be done on the spec review comments. | 19:18 |
| pvaneck | still getting used to the new gerrit | 19:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: ++ | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko | pvaneck: +100500) | 19:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | #agreed No RefStack meeting on Jan 4, 2016 !!! | 19:19 |
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| catherine_d|1 | 2016 already :-) | 19:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | #topic Open discussions | 19:19 |
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| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259221/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258178/ | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko | Will do | 19:21 |
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| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: thx | 19:21 |
| catherine_d|1 | so seems like in Russia and Ukraine... people taking vacation on the New Year rather than Christmas? | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko | catherine_d|1: Yeap | 19:23 |
| alevine | catherine_d: In Russia we have official state holidays 1-10 January | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko | We have Christmas at 7Jan | 19:23 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: ic ... In the US most people will start on Jan 4 .. but I will start on Jan 7 :-) | 19:24 |
| catherine_d|1 | anything else? | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259221/ looks good, after it we need one more thing | 19:24 |
| catherine_d|1 | anything else to discuss? | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko | for refstack-client | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko | we should get rid of keystone-client dependency | 19:25 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: what does it need? pvaneck: is here... | 19:25 |
| sslypushenko | And use tempest approach | 19:25 |
| sslypushenko | Just do raw api call | 19:25 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: agree. Although I think that should be a different patch ... | 19:25 |
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| sslypushenko | and parse the personce | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko | yeap, sure | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko | just a next step | 19:26 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: could you log a bug on that ? | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko | sure | 19:26 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: great thx! | 19:27 |
| pvaneck | Yea, I could try that out | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko | It should be easy | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko | currently we almost do this thing | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko | ok, will create a bug of it | 19:28 |
| catherine_d|1 | we can also get rid of the code to get the credential from the tempest.config file because it wil lbe removed in Mitaka ... credential should be from the accoutns file | 19:28 |
| sslypushenko | lets keep it for a while... | 19:28 |
| sslypushenko | migrations is not going so fast | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: ok | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259221/ should be good to merged? | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko | yeap, just want to discuss one more related thing | 19:30 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: yep absolutely . | 19:30 |
| sslypushenko | maybe, it will make sense to keep both ids? | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko | keystone ID and url hash? | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko | What do you think? | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko | My thought is: both IDs don't fits perfectly as a product ID | 19:32 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: we can discuss about that but I think it would not be necessay once we have the other models (like product or provider ) created ... | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko | yeap | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko | product ID and vendor ID make sence | 19:33 |
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| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: Let revisit this once we decided o nthe data model | 19:34 |
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| sslypushenko | we deferentially do | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko | but maybe anyone have related thought just now | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko | but maybe anyone have related thoughts just now | 19:35 |
| catherine_d|1 | I would like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259221/ merged so that we can offer upload of submit data format ... | 19:35 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: pvaneck: your thoughts on keeping both Keystone and URL for CPID? | 19:36 |
| pvaneck | hmm, well i suppose it would help with the cases where clouds were tested and cpids were retrieved differently | 19:37 |
| pvaneck | how would we store this additional uuid | 19:38 |
| sslypushenko | In metadata, I think | 19:38 |
| alevine | catherine_d: I think as for the format - string is ok for anything. Otherwise we can assess which clouds we'll be dealing with (I see OpenStack, Amazon, Google, Azure, and others like Eucalyptus...) and figure what can serve as a cloudID for them. More important I guess is if we can always automatically determine it. | 19:38 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: If the CPID was created by hasi=hing the cloud URL .. we can always automatically determine it ... | 19:40 |
| alevine | catherine_d: Again, just to make it clear. I think we're talking about cloudID and it's possible content, right? Or I'm confusing the meaning of cpid again? | 19:40 |
| alevine | catherine_d: Which URL? Taken from where? Different tests would have different endpoints and URLs in the same config | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: yup in this sense cloudeID is CPID | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | in tempest config you only on one url for v2 and one for v3 | 19:41 |
| catherine_d|1 | we will use which ever url the cloud tell us to use (by tempest config) as the base url | 19:42 |
| alevine | catherine_d: v2 and v3 keystone I presume. But this is only for OpenStack clouds. We were talking about possibility to test non-OpenStack clouds as well. They do not have keystone. EC2 has different urls | 19:42 |
| alevine | catherine_d: Who defines what url "cloud tells us to use" and when? | 19:42 |
| sslypushenko | alevine: | 19:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: understand that those non-openstack cloud would have no keystone ... that is why we create cpid base on url | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko | alevine: Anyway it should be something like endpoint to auth service | 19:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: they must have one url ... | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko | in any kind of clouds | 19:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: +1 | 19:43 |
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| sslypushenko | so lets assume that we will get a hash from auth endpoint | 19:44 |
| alevine | catherine_d: They do, yes. It is stored in config, yes. Should we teach RefStack to look for EC2_API_endpoint = url in the config? And can we trust it? I mean there is still lots to think of. That's why I guess string is fine for anything. | 19:45 |
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| alevine | catherine_d: Hash is also ok. | 19:45 |
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| sslypushenko | alevine: It will be hash to not keep vulnerable user info on server side | 19:46 |
| catherine_d|1 | alevine: yup that is what https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259221/ does as a last resort that RefStack will always able to create a CPID | 19:46 |
| alevine | yes, hash is perfect | 19:47 |
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| sslypushenko | catherine_d|1 As a result of out discussion, I start thinking that the best solution for now will be use url hash as CPID and store keystone id in test metadata | 19:50 |
| sslypushenko | thoughts? | 19:50 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I am ok with that could we take that as the next step? we should just merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259221/ for now? | 19:52 |
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| sslypushenko | I will put my opinion in review, ok? | 19:52 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: sure | 19:52 |
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| sslypushenko | great | 19:52 |
| catherine_d|1 | and also about not using keystone client | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko | yeap | 19:53 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: great .. | 19:53 |
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| catherine_d|1 | anything else? | 19:54 |
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| sslypushenko | nothing from my side | 19:54 |
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| catherine_d|1 | about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256279/ | 19:54 |
| catherine_d|1 | originally we prefer to use V3 Keystone ID becayse it is a true Keystone service ID | 19:55 |
| catherine_d|1 | this patch suggest that we use whichever define by auth ... | 19:55 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: pvaneck: do we still want to keep the V3 as preference? | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko | We should stick to our solution | 19:56 |
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| sslypushenko | V3 is preferable | 19:56 |
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| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: how about you? | 19:57 |
| pvaneck_ | +1 | 19:57 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: that is my position too | 19:57 |
| catherine_d|1 | #agreed To keep using V3 Keystone ID as the prefer ID for CPID | 19:57 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I think that is all for today ... thank you all.... Happy Holidays ... talked to you on December 28 | 19:58 |
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| sslypushenko | Thx to all! | 19:59 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 21 19:59:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-12-21-19.00.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-12-21-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-12-21-19.00.log.html | 19:59 |
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| redrobot_mobile | o/ | 20:00 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 21 20:02:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:02 |
| elmiko | hi | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:02 |
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| rellerreller | o/ | 20:02 |
| diazjf1 | o/ | 20:02 |
| maxabidi | o/ | 20:02 |
| panatl | 0/ | 20:03 |
| panatl | o/ | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | a few more barbicaneers here than I was expecting | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | as usual the agenda can be found here: | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items from last week | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from last week (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:04 | |
| spotz | o/ - sorta here:) | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-12-14-20.00.html | 20:04 |
| redrobot | The only action item from last week was for me to finish cleaning up the launchpad mitaka-1 page | 20:04 |
| redrobot | which I did | 20:05 |
| redrobot | and you can see here: | 20:05 |
| redrobot | #link https://launchpad.net/barbican/mitaka/mitaka-1 | 20:05 |
| redrobot | that's it for action items | 20:05 |
| redrobot | let's move on to today's agenda | 20:05 |
| redrobot | #topic Questions about steps to integrate Barbican with DevStack | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Questions about steps to integrate Barbican with DevStack (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:05 | |
| redrobot | kfarr hi | 20:06 |
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| kfarr | redrobot, hi sorry was coming back from another meeting | 20:06 |
| redrobot | kfarr no problem. you have the only topic on the agenda for today | 20:06 |
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| kfarr | Ok, so I've been working on trying to integrate Castellan with Nova and Cinder | 20:07 |
| elmiko | nice, kfarr++ | 20:07 |
| kfarr | and the way the old built-in key managers would work in those projects was that they would use a fixed key | 20:07 |
| kfarr | that was the default in DevStack | 20:07 |
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| kfarr | but Castellan doesn't have that option because it's not secure | 20:07 |
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| kfarr | so if those projects start using Castellan, it would be nice to be test with Barbican in the gate | 20:08 |
| kfarr | * would be nice to test with Barbican in the gate | 20:08 |
| kfarr | for cinder and nova | 20:08 |
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| kfarr | since that would be the new default | 20:08 |
| elmiko | kfarr: if you get something setup with barbican at the gate please ping me, i would love to get something setup for our sahara testing too | 20:09 |
| kfarr | elmiko, sure! | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | kfarr with you so far... | 20:09 |
| kfarr | I guess my question was: has anybody already looked at getting barbican integrated with DevStack by default | 20:09 |
| kfarr | or is there anything stopping this from happening that I don't know about? | 20:10 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:10 |
| redrobot | kfarr so Adam Harwell (rm_you) did a ton of work to make it easy to enable Barbican within DevStack | 20:10 |
| kfarr | redrobot, yes the devstack plugin | 20:10 |
| panatl | as far as i know .. if you enable it in localrc barbican will there in devstack | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | kfarr so, to add Barbican to a gate, you just need to enable the plugin. | 20:11 |
| redrobot | kfarr and then make sure the Castellan config is pointing to Barbican on localhost | 20:11 |
| kfarr | Right, but do we want to change the gate to enable Barbican, or do we want to change DevStack so that Barbican is enabled by default always | 20:12 |
| kfarr | Is there a preference | 20:12 |
| redrobot | kfarr I think it's best if people have to opt in to enable Barbican. | 20:12 |
| panatl | agree | 20:12 |
| panatl | ++ redrobot | 20:12 |
| elmiko | yea, +1 to opt-in | 20:13 |
| diazjf1 | +1 on that from here | 20:13 |
| kfarr | Ok, so maybe leave the original gate that has a plain DevStack, then create a second that enables Barbican? | 20:13 |
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| arunkant_ | o/ | 20:14 |
| redrobot | kfarr maybe i'm not understanding the question properly... I thought you were asking if every devstack install should enable Barbican.... which is why I think opt-in is better. | 20:14 |
| redrobot | kfarr but I think maybe you were asking if an existing DevStack gate should be edited to add Barbican, or whether a new gate should be set up ? | 20:15 |
| kfarr | redrobot, sorry I am not explaining well | 20:15 |
| elmiko | yea, i thought the former too. oops | 20:15 |
| kfarr | That was sort of two questions combined into one | 20:15 |
| redrobot | so for the first question, opt-in would be best | 20:16 |
| kfarr | Ok, so we were in agreement that Barbican should not be enabled by default in DevStack | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | for the second question, I think it should be up to the project team to decide whether to change their existing gates or add new ones | 20:16 |
| kfarr | then I took that and jumped to the conclusion that | 20:16 |
| kfarr | right | 20:17 |
| redrobot | I think a new one would probably be better, since you can start by adding it to the "experimental" pipeline | 20:17 |
| kfarr | Yeah that makes sense | 20:17 |
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| elmiko | +1 | 20:18 |
| kfarr | Ok, well part of my goal of bringing it up now was to put it on people's radar that I was going to try doing this. | 20:18 |
| redrobot | kfarr awesome. | 20:18 |
| redrobot | kfarr just for sake of completeness, you'll be adding these to the appropriate projects? | 20:19 |
| kfarr | That's all I've got | 20:19 |
| elmiko | i'm very curious about this one, i would really like to figure out how we can enable a barbican gate for the sahara ci. i think it will take us time thought. | 20:19 |
| elmiko | *though | 20:19 |
| redrobot | kfarr ie, for Nova, you'll add a nova gate that enables Barbican, etc | 20:19 |
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| kfarr | redrobot, yeah I think so | 20:19 |
| rellerreller | elmiko you should be able to copy and paste code after kfarr is done | 20:20 |
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| elmiko | rellerreller: yea, i hope so =) | 20:20 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:21 |
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| rellerreller | The gates and CI infra are not easy. I have been trying to setup a local CI here for testing. It has not gone well :( | 20:21 |
| redrobot | #topic Mitaka Mid-cycle | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | rellerreller :( | 20:21 |
| redrobot | The mid-cycle is going to be coming up soon | 20:22 |
| elmiko | rellerreller: i'd love to talk off-line sometime, i'm trying to do something similar for sahara | 20:22 |
| redrobot | we have an etherpad set up for it already: | 20:22 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-mitaka-midcycle | 20:22 |
| redrobot | Feel free to add mid-cycle topics to it | 20:22 |
| rellerreller | elmiko that sounds good to me. Ping me whenever. | 20:22 |
| elmiko | will do | 20:22 |
| redrobot | I for one will be wanting to review Blueprints | 20:22 |
| redrobot | so we can get a few landed | 20:22 |
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| * rellerreller is sad that I cannot go :( | 20:23 | |
| elmiko | redrobot: do you know if the ossp mid-cycle will be in the same building/campus as the barbican? | 20:23 |
| redrobot | we'll miss you rellerreller | 20:23 |
| redrobot | :( | 20:23 |
| diazjf1 | rellerreller :( | 20:23 |
| redrobot | elmiko yup. we have rooms across the hallway from each other. | 20:23 |
| elmiko | ooh neat | 20:23 |
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| redrobot | sometime before then I'll review the Mitaka Summit notes and add anything that we need to revisit | 20:26 |
| redrobot | that's all I have on the agenda for today | 20:26 |
| redrobot | #topic Open Discussion | 20:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:26 | |
| redrobot | any other topics that we can discuss? | 20:26 |
| diazjf1 | redrobot, just wanted to ket you know I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241068/ the blueprint for getting Castellan in the Swift Keymaster :) | 20:27 |
| lisaclark | o\ | 20:27 |
| redrobot | diazjf1 ok, I'll take a look at it. | 20:28 |
| diazjf1 | redrobot, awesome thanks | 20:28 |
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| redrobot | sounds like we're out of topics for today | 20:30 |
| redrobot | so we can have our 30 minutes back | 20:30 |
| redrobot | thanks everyone for coming | 20:30 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 21 20:31:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-12-21-20.02.html | 20:31 |
| diazjf1 | Happy Holidays everyone | 20:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-12-21-20.02.txt | 20:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-12-21-20.02.log.html | 20:31 |
| elmiko | thanks redrobot | 20:31 |
| redrobot | happy holidays to you too diazjf1 ! | 20:31 |
| redrobot | elmiko :D | 20:31 |
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