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| dprince | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 14:01:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dprince. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| jdob | o/ | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:01 |
| derekh | hi | 14:01 |
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| tzumainn | hiya | 14:02 |
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| dprince | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
| dprince | * bugs | 14:03 |
| dprince | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:03 |
| dprince | * CI | 14:03 |
| dprince | * Specs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| dprince | * one off agenda items | 14:03 |
| trown | o/ | 14:03 |
| dprince | * open discussion | 14:03 |
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| dprince | no on-off agenda items this week I think | 14:03 |
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| dprince | lets get started | 14:04 |
| dprince | #topic bugs | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:04 | |
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| dprince | any bugs to highlight this week? | 14:06 |
| trown | It looks like bnemec has solved the neutron-nova bug | 14:06 |
| * derekh is testing it at the moment | 14:06 | |
| trown | still waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269370/ to pass HA CI | 14:06 |
| * trown too | 14:06 | |
| trown | if that works it will make my proposal in the CI topic much less controversial | 14:07 |
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| dprince | trown: cool, thanks for the update | 14:07 |
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| trown | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519525 | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1519525 in tripleo "Cannot boot instance due to Neutron-Nova notifications" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Nemec (bnemec) | 14:07 |
| trown | for posterity sake | 14:07 |
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| dprince | okay, I saw a few IPv6 releated bugs coming in too. I will try and look over some of those reviews today | 14:10 |
| dprince | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects releases or stable backports (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:11 | |
| dprince | I have a note from Dmitry that we need to release DIB to fix an ironic bug | 14:13 |
| trown | dprince: I think marios did that | 14:13 |
| dprince | trown: ah, cool. :) | 14:13 |
| dprince | okay, so in general where do we stand as far as stable backports go | 14:14 |
| trown | I think we are in the same place for stable backports as we are with master | 14:14 |
| trown | that being, that without overcloud validation our CI is essentially nonsense | 14:14 |
| slagle | we had most everything backported, ergo ipv6 and ssl | 14:14 |
| slagle | not sure why i said "had" | 14:15 |
| slagle | we still do | 14:15 |
| trown | slagle: maybe the couple of reverts where we 'had' them for a few weeks | 14:15 |
| slagle | there have been some recent ipv6 and ssl fixes that need to get backported still | 14:15 |
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| dprince | okay, cool | 14:15 |
| slagle | and maybe a handful of bugfixes | 14:15 |
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| d0ugal | o/ | 14:17 |
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| dprince | #topic CI | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:18 | |
| dprince | trown: you wanted to say something here? | 14:18 |
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| trown | dprince: yes, I would like to propose that we do not merge anything to either master or stable/liberty until we have the ping test merged (with the obvious exeption of things needed to make the ping test pass) | 14:19 |
| dprince | trown: fine with me | 14:19 |
| trown | without that, we will continue to merge broken things | 14:19 |
| bnemec | +1 | 14:19 |
| slagle | +1 | 14:19 |
| dprince | trown: I would have agree to this long ago FWIW :) | 14:19 |
| bnemec | Long ago we were still broken. ;-) | 14:20 |
| dprince | trown: like before we switched to instack ;) | 14:20 |
| bnemec | It's been almost two months. | 14:20 |
| trown | dprince: well I would use my time machine for better purposes :) | 14:20 |
| trown | but we can do something now | 14:20 |
| trown | thanks to bnemec, it should not be too painful | 14:21 |
| * slagle pockets that quip for future reuse | 14:21 | |
| dprince | trown: is the etherpad updated? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/delorean_master_current_issues | 14:21 |
| trown | dprince: ya, and the sahara package one I do not think affects tripleoci | 14:22 |
| trown | dprince: so I think we should just have the neutron-nova thing to get back on master/current | 14:22 |
| derekh | +1, when we switched to instack I opened cards for a bunch of things that needed to be done including the pingtest, hardly anybody has picked un on any of the card since then, | 14:22 |
| bnemec | We have the ping test proposed now. It just hasn't been able to merge because we had no way of knowing if it worked. | 14:23 |
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| derekh | yup | 14:23 |
| dprince | so if we land the neutron-nova fix and then the ping test passes we merge both we are good right? | 14:24 |
| bnemec | It is also super important that we get our current-tripleo symlink updated. I believe it's still pointing at a version of Ironic that is broken on CentOS 7 hosts. | 14:24 |
| dprince | I mean until the next breakage... | 14:24 |
| bnemec | dprince: Sounds like it. | 14:24 |
| derekh | bnemec: you patch gets me further, I still can't ping my instances though still trying to find the porblem (it could be local) | 14:24 |
| derekh | bnemec: yup, it has a inc command not found problem | 14:25 |
| dprince | derekh: appoligies if my comment about "since instack" seemed overly harsh. I just meant to say the idea of a ping test before landing code is something we've done before... | 14:25 |
| trown | derekh: bnemec, tempest smoke is passing with that patch in RDO, so I think we are good | 14:25 |
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| dprince | so agreeing not to land code if it breaks is I think reasonable again | 14:26 |
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| derekh | dprince: no prob, just wanted to make sure eveybody wasn't looking at me, I never wanted use to go 4 months without testing the overcloud, we just havn't done it | 14:27 |
| derekh | trown: ack, thanks | 14:27 |
| dprince | derekh: wasn't even looking in your direction :) | 14:27 |
| bnemec | derekh: I blame downstream, not you. :-) | 14:27 |
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| * derekh goes back to his happy place | 14:28 | |
| derekh | btw, I rebuilt the TE hosts for CI on sunday | 14:28 |
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| derekh | our underclouds now have 2xvCPU and 5G RAM | 14:28 |
| bnemec | \o/ memory | 14:28 |
| derekh | in ci | 14:28 |
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| dprince | are we noticing that this helped the HA jobs pass more often? | 14:29 |
| bnemec | Looks like it's passing about 50%, which is way better than before. | 14:29 |
| bnemec | I've seen a lot of db issues in the bogus failures lately, so I think we may have an actual bug there. | 14:30 |
| derekh | dprince: things appear to be running faster at least when CI isn't under load, but were now more overcommited so not sure what will happen when CI is busy | 14:30 |
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| dprince | derekh: I guess we cross our fingers and see | 14:30 |
| derekh | as for failure rate, Its probably a little to early to tell but it looks better | 14:30 |
| derekh | dprince: yup | 14:30 |
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| dprince | okay, lets move on | 14:33 |
| dprince | #topic Specs | 14:33 |
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| dprince | Oh, before I forget. I think we had 100% agreement on the ping test passing. So probably worth sending this out on the list too right? | 14:35 |
| dprince | just so everyone knows | 14:35 |
| dprince | not to merge code unless it passes | 14:35 |
| trown | dprince: +1 | 14:35 |
| slagle | yes, i'd say no concensus needed on the list | 14:35 |
| dprince | slagle: just a notification | 14:36 |
| slagle | just send it out as "the way" | 14:36 |
| dprince | okay I can do that | 14:36 |
| dprince | back to specs | 14:36 |
| dprince | anything new this week? | 14:36 |
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| dprince | okay, so no specs updates for this week I think | 14:40 |
| dprince | #topic open discussion | 14:40 |
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| trown | hmm... maybe we can just close early | 14:45 |
| * bnemec has nothing and has another meeting starting right now | 14:45 | |
| dprince | sounds like everyone is either tired or busy | 14:45 |
| bnemec | Last week was kind of brutal for a lot of us. | 14:45 |
| dprince | okay, we can end early then | 14:45 |
| dprince | thanks everyone | 14:46 |
| trown | thanks for chairing dprince | 14:46 |
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| dprince | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 14:46:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-01-19-14.01.html | 14:46 |
| derekh | ttyl | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-01-19-14.01.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-01-19-14.01.log.html | 14:46 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 15:02:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| matrohon | hi | 15:02 |
| tmorin | hi doude, matrohon, pcarver, timirnich | 15:02 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:02 |
| doude | hi | 15:02 |
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| tmorin | let's wait to see if more people join | 15:03 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | ok, let's go | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | starting may make people arrive, as the sayingn goes... :) | 15:14 |
| tmorin | matrohon,doude, pcarver: any announcement to make ? | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | I personally haven't any | 15:15 |
| tmorin | was travelling last week | 15:15 |
| pcarver | I don't have anything | 15:15 |
| matrohon | nothing :( | 15:15 |
| doude | me Neither do I | 15:15 |
| tmorin | I plan to work for next week to have a base to discuss on the next steps for net-bgpvpn | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | enickher mentioned OPNFV work last week (I saw that in the logs) | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | not much detail was discussed | 15:16 |
| tmorin | bgpvpn was succesfully deployed in a CI run of OPNFV a few days ago | 15:17 |
| tmorin | that's what, I assume, he was talking about | 15:17 |
| tmorin | #link https://build.opnfv.org/ci/job/fuel-deploy-virtual-daily-brahmaputra/8/console | 15:17 |
| matrohon | tmorin | 15:17 |
| matrohon | tmorin can you give us a status | 15:18 |
| matrohon | great | 15:18 |
| tmorin | matrohon: ??? | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | the other pending things which are worth mentioning: static routes, bagpipe and L2 agent extensions | 15:19 |
| matrohon | tmorin : you just answered my question | 15:19 |
| tmorin | ok :) | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | on static routes: I still have to review Jan proposal, hopefully this week | 15:19 |
| tmorin | on bagpipe and l2 agent extension: I'm following the work on agent API, that will be a starting point for having the bgpvpn RPCs processing be added to the OVS agent cleanly | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1517903 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517903 in neutron "[RFE] Add agent specific API for l2 agent extensions" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 15:20 |
| tmorin | the blueprint is, it seems, stable | 15:21 |
| tmorin | and code has been submitted for the base framework | 15:21 |
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| tmorin | additional changes will be needed to add the hooks we want for bagpipe bgpvpn driver | 15:21 |
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| matrohon | there has been some interesting dicussions about ovs table restructuration too | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | yes | 15:25 |
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| tmorin | I don't know what can be achieved in the mitaka timeframe, but this makes a lot of sense | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | at some point we will care about different extensions playing well together when enabled at the same time | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | anything else to discuss ? | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | doude, pcarver, matrohon: are we done ? | 15:30 |
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| pcarver | tmorin: I'm afraid I'm badly overbooked and don't have anything to offer at this time | 15:31 |
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| doude | no | 15:31 |
| doude | yes sorry | 15:31 |
| tmorin | ok, we're done | 15:31 |
| tmorin | don't be sorry :) | 15:31 |
| tmorin | bye everyone | 15:32 |
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| tmorin | #endmeeeting | 15:32 |
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| matrohon | thanks | 15:33 |
| anteaya | tmorin: try again without the extra e in meeting | 15:34 |
| tmorin | anteaya: I was wondering why the bot wasn't reacting :D | 15:34 |
| tmorin | anteaya: thanks :) | 15:34 |
| anteaya | welcome | 15:34 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 15:34:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-01-19-15.02.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-01-19-15.02.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-01-19-15.02.log.html | 15:34 |
| anteaya | tmorin: I too was wondering | 15:34 |
| tmorin | anteaya: brains trained to glance through words... | 15:35 |
| anteaya | yup | 15:35 |
| anteaya | extra eyes are so helpful | 15:35 |
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| adrian_otto | we will begin the containers team meeting in just a moment. | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 16:03:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #lin https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-01-19_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:03 |
| madhuri | o/ | 16:03 |
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| rods | o/ | 16:03 |
| wanghua | o/ | 16:03 |
| Tango | Ton Ngo | 16:03 |
| houming | o/ | 16:03 |
| Kennan_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| rpothier | o/ | 16:03 |
| bunting | o/ | 16:03 |
| HimanshuGarg | o/ | 16:03 |
| muralia | o/ | 16:03 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:03 |
| sew1 | o/ | 16:03 |
| wangqun | o/ | 16:03 |
| coreyob | o/ | 16:03 |
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| eghobo | o/ | 16:03 |
| bradjones | o/ | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | hello madhuri, rods, wanghua, Tango, houming, Kennan_, rpothier, bunting, HimanshuGarg, muralia, hongbin, sew1, wangqun, coreyob, eghobo, and bradjones | 16:04 |
| juggler | o/ | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | hello juggler | 16:04 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:04 |
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| tcammann | hello | 16:04 |
| juggler | hello all | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | hello thomasem and tcammann. Glad to have you all here. Let's begin. | 16:05 |
| levi_b | o/ | 16:05 |
| thomasem | hihi | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Midcycle | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | we have selected dates. Feb 18-19, hosted by HP | 16:05 |
| tcammann | HPE! | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | HPE | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | my apaologies for the abbreviation | 16:05 |
| Kennan_ | what's HPE? | 16:06 |
| eghobo | is it in Sunnyvale? | 16:06 |
| tcammann | :D We renamed to HPE, we split HP | 16:06 |
| tcammann | Sunnyvale is the plan, I'm trying to book a room at the moment | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | tcammann and I will be working on the exact logistics, but please save the date. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | I will email a reply to the date coordination thread indicating the selection | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | we will revisit topic selection soon | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | if you have a topic, keep it handy | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | any announcements from team members? | 16:08 |
| ttx | adrian_otto: I had a request to align the release model to cycle-with-intermediary (since you want to do a "mitaka" release afaik) | 16:08 |
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| ttx | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083726.html | 16:08 |
| ttx | must be proposed this week at the latest | 16:08 |
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| ttx | so I figured I would give you a heads-up | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | ttx, yes, thanks. I need to get the review in to toggle that over, or if someone has already done it, I'm happy to cast a vote on it. | 16:08 |
| ttx | nobody did it yet | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | we agreed as a team to proceed. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll plan to wrap that up today. | 16:09 |
| ttx | thx! | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | np! | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's advance topics | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268852/ spec for trust (wanghua) | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | wanghua: status on this item? | 16:10 |
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| wanghua | I think we need a discussion about this bp | 16:10 |
| wanghua | It is a feature needed by many bps | 16:11 |
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| wanghua | We need to make a decision | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | ok, that might require a bit more time than we have today. Our options are to begin my ML, and then follow up by IRC, or schedule a meeting dedicated to this topic. What are your thoughts on this? | 16:12 |
| muralia | we should do a ML discussion. that gives me time to think about it and reply | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | seems there is already thoughtful discussion on that spec review | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | wanghua: what question would you like the team to answer? | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | is this a matter of how to implement? | 16:14 |
| wanghua | yes | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | I don't see a controversy over whether this should be done or not | 16:14 |
| coreyob | I do o/ | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's focus energy on the review comments, and get our respective POV's there for consideration | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | and I'm happy to put a follow-up into next week's agenda if we feel we need a discussion as well | 16:15 |
| Kennan_ | wanghua do you want to replace access info (for example load balancer) to something else? | 16:15 |
| Kennan_ | I did not check that details, maybe need some time to review it | 16:15 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so let's table this for today, and continue in the review comments, and in #openstack-containers | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | we'll get a good plan together. | 16:16 |
| wanghua | ok | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | we are still in action item review. Next one is: | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | 2) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265057/ spec for volume integration (Kennan) | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | Kennan_: remarks on this one? | 16:16 |
| Kennan_ | yes adrian_otto | 16:16 |
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| Kennan_ | I have replied manye comments, but no new comments input, and no review progress yet | 16:17 |
| Kennan_ | s/manye/many | 16:17 |
| Kennan_ | I want to collect more inputs, and make sure we move that | 16:17 |
| Kennan_ | adrian_otto :) | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | I remember seeing a remark on this last night | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | about not needing a volume on the master node because it's not running a docker daemon | 16:18 |
| Kennan_ | no adrian_otto: | 16:18 |
| Kennan_ | it not same review items | 16:18 |
| Kennan_ | it seems another item | 16:18 |
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| Kennan_ | it seems docker storage configruation | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so reviewers, please take a moment to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265057/ (myself included) at your earliest convenience | 16:18 |
| Kennan_ | not related with this one | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | ok, got it Kennan_, thanks. | 16:19 |
| Kennan_ | Thanks adrian_otto | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so the action items here are actually complete, and the reeust for both is for our reviewers to offer additional input on those reviews. | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | that concludes action item review. | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | the networking subteam is merging back into the main group again, so I will be dropping the subteam updates from the regular agenda going forward. | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones) | 16:21 |
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| bradjones | hi all | 16:21 |
| bradjones | there is one last important bp which is still yet to merge | 16:21 |
| bradjones | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235620/ | 16:21 |
| juggler | hey bradjones | 16:21 |
| bradjones | which is bay model create | 16:21 |
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| bradjones | there is a comment on current patch which between Shu & myself will be addressed shortly | 16:21 |
| bradjones | will be great to get that merged as soon as new patch is out though | 16:22 |
| bradjones | I'm going to spend a bit of time doing some bug management today too | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | that one ended up being a pretty big patch | 16:22 |
| Tango | Looks great | 16:22 |
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| Kennan_ | bradjones I would like to try that tomorrow if time is OK, good feature I think | 16:22 |
| bradjones | as there are a few issues which have no movement on and look like they need fixing | 16:22 |
| bradjones | Kennan_: great will try to get something out before then | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | thanks bradjones for all that work | 16:22 |
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| bradjones | adrian_otto: no worries, that's all from me | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | thanks bradjones | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Essential Blueprint Updates | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/mitaka Our Mitaka Blueprints | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-tempest (dimtruck) | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | dimtruck: how are we doing on this one? | 16:25 |
| dimtruck | just documentation left | 16:25 |
| dimtruck | there's one patch that's on hold due to the api tests now taking close to 2 hours | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | excellent. | 16:25 |
| dimtruck | so ican't spin up another bay :( | 16:25 |
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| dimtruck | i'll have documentation done this week | 16:26 |
| dimtruck | eghobo and thomasem helped me out with that already | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | I did notice that the Magnum API is really slow recently | 16:26 |
| dimtruck | yup, that's b ecause bay tests are spinning up a bay...and that takes an extra 30 minutes | 16:26 |
| dimtruck | we may potentially want to increate the test timeout for these from 2 hours to something longer | 16:27 |
| dimtruck | like 150 or 180m | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | the bay create operation is taking much longer than I expect it to.. in the range of 20 seconds for what I expect should be subsecond time | 16:27 |
| dimtruck | up to the team.. | 16:27 |
| dimtruck | do you mean bay model create? | 16:28 |
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| dimtruck | bay create takes ~18 minutes alone in spinning up swarm nodes and swarm manager | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | no, a bay create from an existing baymodel should return a 201 created right away, and it blocks for almost 20 seconds | 16:28 |
| dimtruck | ahh | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | I thought it was my sest env, so I chucked it and set up a new one, and the same thing happened again | 16:28 |
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| dimtruck | i'll take a look...i've been more concentrating on getting the bay create time down and haven't looked at the actual api responses :( | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | maybe someone with performance profiling experience could have a look | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | or maybe there are some profiling tools for python that I could learn to use | 16:29 |
| dimtruck | full bay create i meant | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks dimtruck | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | I don't think we want to extend the time allowed to run the func tests, but see about ways to make them execute more quickly instead | 16:30 |
| dimtruck | sounds good! | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | ok, next BP up for checkin is: | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-troubleshooting-guide (Tango) | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | Tango: any update? | 16:31 |
| Tango | We have 2 sections being added. Thanks dimtruck and Tom | 16:31 |
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| Tango | 2 other in progress | 16:31 |
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| adrian_otto | de we have enought velocity on this, or should we plan to pull in more help from other team members? | 16:32 |
| Tango | It would be good to get more help from the team | 16:32 |
| Tango | so if anyone has expertise on debugging, please feel free to jump i | 16:33 |
| Tango | in | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I am going to mark the BP as Slow Progress as a signal that we need more assistance on it. | 16:33 |
| Tango | I set up the TODO list in the BP, please put your name on the section you would like to work on | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | we also have a related BP: | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide (Tango) | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | that's one of the others in progress you mentioned? | 16:34 |
| Tango | Similarly, 2 are in progress, TLS and networking | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:34 |
| Tango | Wonder if bradjones can help with Horizon | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | how should I mark the status of the user-guide BP? | 16:34 |
| Tango | We can say Slow Progress also | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, you go t it | 16:36 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/resource-quota (vilobh) | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | vilobh is not in attendance today | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | A couple of days ago there was a revision to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266662/ | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | I'll plan to review that one as well, hopefully today. | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | next is: | 16:39 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-functional-testing (eliqiao) | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | eliqiao: remarks on this one? | 16:39 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: I have followed up with eliqiao last week | 16:40 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: He mentioned that one is complete | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | oh, sweet! | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | I will mark it | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | oh, it already is. My mistake! | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | ok, that brings us to open discussion | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | maybe we have time to revisit the specs | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | or, I have a question | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | I have an opinion I'll be giving in an upcoming talk at the SCALE conference about why you might select one COE over another for a particular workload | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | if you were to give me your ideas on the top one or two reasons for picking Docker Swarm, Kubernetes, or Apache Mesos as your COE type, what are they? | 16:45 |
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| adrian_otto | I'm thinking Swarm for the freedom to really customize the app setup and deployment process, because you can use an imperative style. | 16:46 |
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| Tango | Another option is to run Kube and/or Swarm on top of Mesos | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | or that you are already familiar with the docker tools, and want to continue using those, plus the benefits of OpenStack | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | Tango: good point. In what circumstances would you prefer to do that? | 16:47 |
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| eghobo | adrian_otto: maybe we should talk about this topic during mid-cycle, i cannot type quick enough ;) | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | heh | 16:47 |
| Tango | This allows fine grain resource sharing, so if you have workloads running on both Kube and Swarm, it would be helpful | 16:47 |
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| Kennan_ | Tango: do you mean use mesos to schedule between kube and swarm? | 16:48 |
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| Tango | Right | 16:49 |
| Tango | Kube is now available as a framework on Mesos, so there is interesting capability for managing the kube cluster | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | Tango: are you aware of anyone using that in a production capacity? | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | anyone I can ask about how that's working? | 16:50 |
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| Tango | It's too early for production use | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:50 |
| Kennan_ | It seems interesting. Would be helpful to have link for demo for that | 16:50 |
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| Tango | The kube framework is only a few months old | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | yeah, I'd love to learn more about it | 16:51 |
| Tango | but it's an interesting possibility, we are looking into this | 16:51 |
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| Tango | might be a good topic for mid cycle | 16:51 |
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| Kennan_ | adrian_otto: | 16:52 |
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| Kennan_ | when you talked about this | 16:52 |
| Kennan_ | you can use an imperative style. | 16:52 |
| Tango | For Magnum, we could consider deploying Kube and Swarm as framework on Mesos cluster | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll be sure to get that on the topi list | 16:52 |
| Kennan_ | what's that means ? | 16:52 |
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| adrian_otto | Kennan: as opposed to the declarative style used by Kubernetes in the YAML format kube file | 16:52 |
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| adrian_otto | instead of describing the output of the app setup, in an imerative style you would specify the explicit steps the system should follow during deployment. | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | so if you like declarative and want to use Swarm, you might select a tool like docker-compose | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | or if you prefer imperative you might just write a script that calls the docker client with a bunch of arguments that you orchestrate around yourself. | 16:54 |
| Kennan_ | OK | 16:54 |
| Kennan_ | I got it. so you mean swarm support both ways | 16:55 |
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| Kennan_ | it is very flexible | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | Kubernetes gives a nice rich declarative style experience | 16:55 |
| Kennan_ | right ? adrian_otto | 16:55 |
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| adrian_otto | that's one of the sexy parts of it | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | but the deawback is that it requires a lot of code within the system itself to interpret the model provided by the user, and decide how to accomplish it | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | s/deawback/drawback/ | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | ok, if you have more thoughts on this question, find me. I'd love to get your input. | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | we are coming close to the end of our scheduled time for today | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: thanks so much for helping out last meeting as chair. I really appreciate it. | 16:57 |
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| hongbin | adrian_otto: np | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is scheduled for 2016-01-26 at 1600 UTC. I look forward to seeing you all then! | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for attending today! | 16:58 |
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| juggler | thanks all | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 16:59:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-01-19-16.03.html | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-01-19-16.03.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-01-19-16.03.log.html | 16:59 |
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| Nikolay_St | ho | 16:59 |
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| Nikolay_St | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 17:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Nikolay_St. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| Nikolay_St | hi all | 17:00 |
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| StanLagun | o/ | 17:00 |
| enthurohini | hello | 17:00 |
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| madhuri_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| freerunner | o/ | 17:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | Serg asked me to hold todays meeting | 17:00 |
| Nikolay_St | so | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
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| Nikolay_St | here is an agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda#Agenda | 17:01 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 17:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | \o/ | 17:02 |
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| Nikolay_St | #topic Action Items Review | 17:03 |
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| zhurong | o/ | 17:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | so, we have 2 action items from previous meeting | 17:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | #1. ativelkov * ativelkov to summarize the plugin usage questions in etherpad | 17:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | ativelkov: please proceed :) | 17:03 |
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| ativelkov | sorry, this one is still in progress | 17:06 |
| Nikolay_St | ativelkov: are you here? | 17:06 |
| Nikolay_St | ativelkov: ok | 17:06 |
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| Nikolay_St | #action ativelkov to summarize the plugin usage questions in etherpad | 17:06 |
| Nikolay_St | the second one is: sergmelikyan describe versioning model for murano-apps | 17:07 |
| Nikolay_St | Serg is away. may be somebody else know something? StanLagun kzaitsev_mb ? | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | nope =) | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | this camo out of our discussion about release tags | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | this week is the last to change release tags for OS projects in M | 17:08 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: ok, get it | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so we're probably will only be able to do it during N | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so there is no hurry anyway =)) | 17:08 |
| Nikolay_St | ok | 17:08 |
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| Nikolay_St | well, I think to store this action somewhere, so I'll file it again until we decide something. | 17:09 |
| Nikolay_St | may be we should start discussion in ML? I think it's a good point otherwise we can forget about it | 17:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I don't know tbh =) | 17:13 |
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| zhurong | I am sorry, this is the first time i join the meeting, So i don't quite understand about versioning model for murano-apps, can someone give me some help? | 17:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we've discussed that a couple of times, but still I have problems comprehending how do we want to see our apps being developed and released ) | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | zhurong: that's the point ) | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: let's just add the AI for serg once again shall we? =) | 17:14 |
| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: ok, let's do it | 17:14 |
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| Nikolay_St | #action sergmelikyan describe versioning model for murano-apps (from 12.01.16) | 17:15 |
| Nikolay_St | that's all for action items | 17:16 |
| StanLagun | this is better be called release model because we do have versionning for murano apps and it is something very different | 17:16 |
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| Nikolay_St | StanLagun: good point | 17:16 |
| Nikolay_St | how can I cancel the action? | 17:17 |
| zhurong | add a new action? | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #action sergmelikyan describe versioning model for murano-apps | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | done | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: this tutorial http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot has some usefull commands ;) | 17:18 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: yeah | 17:19 |
| Nikolay_St | probably you can't decline action | 17:19 |
| Nikolay_St | let's move forward | 17:19 |
| freerunner | kzaitsev_mb: Looks like Serg is not here now. We should notify him about action items, I think ;) | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I think we had an item on our agenda added by madhuri_ | 17:19 |
| Nikolay_St | #topic Blueprint | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | freerunner: that's an item from prev meeting. but yep good point | 17:20 |
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| Nikolay_St | #topic Magnum/Murano Rationalization(madhuri) | 17:20 |
| madhuri_ | Hi all | 17:20 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | madhuri_: can you comment? =) | 17:20 |
| madhuri_ | Yes sure | 17:20 |
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| madhuri_ | This bp is to do magnum/murano rationalization | 17:20 |
| madhuri_ | Magnum and Murano both deploys kubernetes cluster | 17:21 |
| Nikolay_St | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/magnum-murano-rationalization | 17:21 |
| madhuri_ | So Intel, Rackspace and Mirantis had meeting about it in Tokyo | 17:21 |
| madhuri_ | And there we came up with this idea | 17:21 |
| madhuri_ | So I am working on it to write Magnum plugin for Murano | 17:21 |
| madhuri_ | I have also submitted a patch for it | 17:22 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | not really sure what you mean by rationalization =) | 17:22 |
| madhuri_ | Ok let me try to explain | 17:22 |
| madhuri_ | Both projects have some advantages over other | 17:23 |
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| madhuri_ | So here we are trying to get advantages of both with removing this duplicate implementation | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | i'm not sure if that's a good name for bp, but well | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok =) | 17:24 |
| StanLagun | madhuri_: Murano doesn't install or use k8s. It is just one of the apps that we have. We may have one more implementation of the same interface (actually we have 2 already) and one more app that installs k8s. We don't need to decide which one is better and leave only one | 17:24 |
| madhuri_ | Yeah we can decide on it | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So as far as I understand you want to use magnum from murano, by utilising murano plugins mechanism, right? | 17:25 |
| madhuri_ | Yes right kzaitsev_mb | 17:25 |
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| madhuri_ | There has been lots of talks about this in previous summit | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and that would enable users to write apps, that rely on their existing magnum installations and take advantage of the catalog of apps and ease of deployment, murano offers, right? | 17:27 |
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| madhuri_ | Exactly kzaitsev_mb | 17:27 |
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| madhuri_ | A white paper has already been released for it | 17:28 |
| madhuri_ | #link https://www.mirantis.com/blog/magnum-vs-murano-openstack-container-strategy/ | 17:28 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | madhuri_: you're not explaining why would you do any of that in the bp | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so it would be great to add some rationale =) | 17:28 |
| madhuri_ | kzaitsev_mb: I will add this points in detail in bp | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | cause it's not really clear at the 1st glance, I think =) | 17:29 |
| madhuri_ | Thanks for the input | 17:29 |
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| madhuri_ | Please let me know if anyone have any question or concern with it | 17:30 |
| StanLagun | So where is the rationalization? | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | We've hadn't had any contributions to contrib and/or plugins before, so you're the first one here =) | 17:30 |
| madhuri_ | Murano will be using Magnum to deploy kubernetes cluster and then usin Murano dashboard users can easily deploy pods, rcs on it | 17:31 |
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| StanLagun | kzaitsev_mb: I forgot about Cloudify plugin | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | since we do not have any policies on what plugins get in and what not — I guess this is going to be a case-by-case thing ) | 17:31 |
| madhuri_ | Does that make sense StanLagun? | 17:31 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I had a chat with Serg earlier today and he was overall supportive of the idea =) | 17:31 |
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| madhuri_ | Magnum offers TLS, loadbalancer feature and Murano offers strong UI to users | 17:31 |
| StanLagun | madhuri_: again, Murano doesn't use Mangnum or anything else. It is your app that does. You are writing another implementation of KubernetesCluster etc which is good and I very appreciate it. However it is just one more app, not Murano improvement or something | 17:32 |
| madhuri_ | Ok one more point using Magnum will help Murano support Swarm and Mesos | 17:33 |
| madhuri_ | As Magnum supports this COEs(Container Orchestration Engine) | 17:34 |
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| madhuri_ | It depends on user which way they want their COEs to be deployed | 17:34 |
| StanLagun | Thats good. My point is since it is one more app and it's not going to replace any of existing app or change anything in Murano there is nothing to decide for us here. One more application is always good. One more plugin is even better | 17:35 |
| madhuri_ | Yes :) | 17:35 |
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| Nikolay_St | so, I guess that's all for this topic? | 17:37 |
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| madhuri_ | Ok so I would need your help to get this through | 17:37 |
| madhuri_ | Yes | 17:37 |
| madhuri_ | And kzaitsev_mb is already doing it. | 17:37 |
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| madhuri_ | Thanks kzaitsev_mb :) | 17:37 |
| Nikolay_St | madhuri_: you're always welcome at #murano :) | 17:37 |
| Nikolay_St | #topic Open Discussion | 17:37 |
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| madhuri_ | Thank you everyone! | 17:37 |
| kzaitsev_mb | madhuri_: feel free to come to #murano and ping us on any problems you encounter =) | 17:37 |
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| madhuri_ | kzaitsev_mb: I always do that :) | 17:38 |
| Nikolay_St | guys, any question for Open Discussion? | 17:39 |
| StanLagun | madhuri_: my only wish is that your app could be used as an implementation of DockerContainerHost. Thus anyone could use it as a drop-in replacement for current KubernetesPod | 17:39 |
| madhuri_ | StanLagun: Ok I don't have idea about it now but I will do that | 17:40 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | StanLagun: madhuri_ that's actually a terrific idea. | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: not me =) | 17:42 |
| madhuri_ | kzaitsev_mb: Thanks | 17:42 |
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| zhurong | Do any guys submit a topic for Austin Topics about murano? | 17:44 |
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| Nikolay_St | zhurong: I start the process today | 17:44 |
| zhurong | Nikolay_St Come on | 17:45 |
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| Nikolay_St | zhurong: I'll notify you if the talk will be elected :D | 17:50 |
| Nikolay_St | team, anything else? | 17:50 |
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| zhurong | And should we rotation meeting time? Consider Chinese developers... | 17:53 |
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| Nikolay_St | zhurong: we can move it even-odd schedule | 17:54 |
| Nikolay_St | zhurong: you can start discussion in ML if you want | 17:55 |
| Nikolay_St | I can't say that murano weekly meeting is this popular in China, but let's try :) | 17:55 |
| zhurong | I get it | 17:56 |
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| StanLagun | Nikolay_St: it's our chance to get millions of contributors :) | 17:57 |
| Nikolay_St | StanLagun: well | 17:57 |
| zhurong | Thanks, StanLagun Nikolay_St | 17:57 |
| zhurong | our time is CST 01:57:46 | 17:58 |
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| Nikolay_St | zhurong: this sucks :( | 17:58 |
| Nikolay_St | it's hard to attend meeting in that time | 17:58 |
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| Nikolay_St | I know it :) | 17:58 |
| StanLagun | 9PM at Moscow | 17:59 |
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| Nikolay_St | it's time | 18:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 18:00:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-01-19-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-01-19-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-01-19-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| Nikolay_St | thanks all) | 18:00 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 20:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 20:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 20:00 |
| rlrossit_ | hey gibi | 20:00 |
| gibi | hello! | 20:00 |
| gibi | what a lovely evening (in UTC+1) :) | 20:01 |
| gibi | #topic open reviews | 20:01 |
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| gibi | let's start | 20:01 |
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| gibi | so as you can see we have John's +2s (ish) and Michael started too look at the patch series | 20:02 |
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| gibi | but the deadline is really close | 20:02 |
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| gibi | I'm planning to ask for exception if we hit the deadline without merge as It feels really close | 20:03 |
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| cdent | Makes sense. It is very close. | 20:03 |
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| rlrossit_ | yeah I want to get my cleanup patch in too that's on your first patch | 20:04 |
| rlrossit_ | but it looks like John hasn't looked at that one :( | 20:04 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: your patch needs a rebase, I pushed the button but it has some merge conflict | 20:04 |
| rlrossit_ | son of a gun | 20:04 |
| rlrossit_ | well I'll handle that right quick then | 20:04 |
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| gibi | rlrossit_: but I think that patch qualifies as a refactor so that might get in after Mitaka-2 | 20:05 |
| * rlrossit_ crosses fingers | 20:05 | |
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| rlrossit_ | I need to put my begging hat on for my other RPC changes anyways, so the less begging I have to do, the better | 20:05 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: agree | 20:05 |
| gibi | anything else on the reviews? | 20:06 |
| rlrossit_ | nope | 20:07 |
| gibi | #topic meeting schedule | 20:07 |
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| gibi | so as we already touched this last week, I think we can decrease the meeting frequency | 20:08 |
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| gibi | I propose to have it every second week. what do you think? | 20:08 |
| rlrossit_ | +1 | 20:08 |
| cdent | that makes sense | 20:08 |
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| gibi | #agreed to hold the meeting every second week | 20:09 |
| gibi | I will drop a mail to the ML about that | 20:09 |
| gibi | and I will update the necessary repo | 20:10 |
| gibi | I'm wondering about the meeting timeslot as well | 20:11 |
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| gibi | honestly it is quite late in EU where I'm sitting. | 20:11 |
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| gibi | originally this timeslot was selected to give a chance to far east and australia to join | 20:11 |
| gibi | which timezones are you located? | 20:12 |
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| cdent | I'm GMT | 20:12 |
| rlrossit_ | I'm UTC-6 | 20:12 |
| cdent | so late afternoon UTC could work? | 20:12 |
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| * rlrossit_ is awful at time conversion | 20:13 | |
| cdent | I'm usually around this timeslot anyway because I like to lurk in the tc meeting | 20:13 |
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| gibi | I would be happy if we can push this a little bit earlier. UTC 18:00 maybe. Or is it lunchtime for you rlrossit_ ? | 20:14 |
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| rlrossit_ | yeah that's lunch for me :( | 20:14 |
| cdent | I'm pretty happy with anything except for later :) | 20:14 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: even earlier? | 20:14 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: UTC 17:00? | 20:15 |
| rlrossit_ | anything after UTC 1400 is fine with me | 20:15 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: cool | 20:15 |
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| rlrossit_ | *1400 or after | 20:15 |
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| rlrossit_ | I'm here by 8AM local time | 20:15 |
| gibi | Then I will send a mail about a proposal for UTC 17:00 ish and if nobody objects then I will do that change as well along with the frequency | 20:16 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: thank you for the flexibility | 20:17 |
| gibi | ok let's move on | 20:18 |
| gibi | #topic open discussion | 20:18 |
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| gibi | anything else? | 20:18 |
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| cdent | is there an etherpad or similar for what's next with the versioned notifications? | 20:18 |
| cdent | or, even better I guess, is the spec covering everything? | 20:19 |
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| gibi | not yet, but in the coming day I will prepare myself for the midcycle so I will make a list of TODOS | 20:19 |
| cdent | awesome, that was pretty much why I was asking | 20:19 |
| gibi | cdent: spec needs to be amended based on the current desing if it gets merged | 20:19 |
| gibi | I will set up an etherpad just to have a common place | 20:21 |
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| gibi | I will be in Bristol next week. Will we have a chance to meet in person there? | 20:22 |
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| rlrossit_ | I will not be at the midcycle | 20:23 |
| cdent | I'll be there | 20:24 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: too bad, you will miss a free beer from me :) | 20:24 |
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| rlrossit_ | brb, buying $1500 plane ticket to get free beer | 20:25 |
| gibi | cdent: great, let's have a chat there than | 20:25 |
| cdent | rlrossit_: you have a great grasp of modern economics | 20:25 |
| cdent | gibi++ | 20:25 |
| gibi | rlrossit_: :) | 20:25 |
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| gibi | anything else to discuss? | 20:26 |
| cdent | not from me | 20:27 |
| rlrossit_ | nothing for me either | 20:27 |
| gibi | thanks for the meeting! | 20:28 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 20:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 20:28:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-01-19-20.00.html | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-01-19-20.00.txt | 20:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2016/nova_notification.2016-01-19-20.00.log.html | 20:28 |
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