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sgordon#startmeeting telcowg14:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  3 14:03:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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sgordon#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda14:03
sgordon#topic roll call14:04
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sgordonapologies got held up on another meeting14:04
cloudonhi there14:04
sgordonanyone about for telcowg \o>14:04
serverascodeo/14:04
gjayaveluhi14:04
sgordon#topic updates on product wg integration14:04
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sgordon#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269874/14:05
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sgordon#info security segregation user story merged to product wg14:05
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sgordoncloudon, any luck with SBC?14:05
cloudonwell, I think I've done it...14:05
cloudon...but it doesn't seem to be shoeing up, which is a tad worrying14:05
cloudonshowing14:05
cloudonDone a git add, git comit and git review - am I missing something?14:06
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sgordongit push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master14:06
sgordonprobably14:06
sgordonalthough i dont use the git review workflow14:06
sgordonso lemme check14:06
cloudonok, ta14:07
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cloudonI checked out a branch as the docn suggested - might that be an issue?14:07
sgordonshouldn't be14:08
sgordonbut if it's not giving you a link to a review then it hasn't pushed14:08
sgordoni would try what i suggested above and see what happens14:08
sgordongit push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master14:08
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sgordonlook for any messages about it missing a Change-Id or something as well, that can cause it not to push14:09
cloudonOK, more promising...14:09
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sgordonbingo14:09
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cloudonhttps://review.openstack.org/27571214:09
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sgordon#link https://review.openstack.org/27571214:09
sgordon#info SBC user story submitted to product wg14:09
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sgordonif only everything was that easy ;)14:09
cloudonI changed a bit of the text to fit the user story format and udated some of the links to remove bps that have already been done14:10
sgordonok, there are a few folks in product wg that are pretty proactive on reviews so will likely get some feedback in the next day or so14:10
sgordon#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-user-stories+status:open14:10
cloudonCool.  Is there a review meeting I should go to?14:10
sgordonnot as such14:10
sgordonthe product wg meetings are on monday afternoon est, let me grab that link14:11
sgordon#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Product_WG14:11
sgordonbut most of the specific commentary will go in the review14:11
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cloudonSo mainly  monitor and respond to feedback in gerrit?14:11
sgordonwe just provide a quick status in the meeting which i can cover since the time may not work for you14:11
sgordonyup14:11
cloudonThanks - I'm in the air next Monday @ 914:12
sgordonok, i think that gives us 3 in their repo14:13
sgordonthat is probably enough for now and we start trying to work out the next part of their process14:13
cloudonmakes sense14:13
sgordonwhich is getting it in front of the cross project teams for review14:13
sgordoni will ask about that in the meeting as well14:14
sgordonthere is some fun discussion about how that review should actually happen given the current product wg process results in the thing already being merged by then14:14
sgordonbut i digress :P14:14
sgordon#topic other business14:14
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sgordonanything else to raise this week?14:15
sgordoni can't recall - are any of you going to the ops mid-cycle?14:15
serverascodeI am14:15
cloudonNot me14:15
sgordonim not either this time14:15
sgordonhad a conflict14:16
sgordonserverascode, i didn't get any responses on the M/L about a BOF there but i am sure you will encounter some likeminded folks in the hallway track14:16
serverascodeyeah for sure, thanks :)14:17
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sgordonalright14:18
sgordonthanks all for your time and persistence!14:18
sgordon#endmeeting14:18
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb  3 14:18:50 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:18
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haleybhi14:59
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Swamihi15:00
haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  3 15:00:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
haleyb#chair Swami15:00
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openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:00
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haleyblet's get started, hopefully we didn't step on each other's wiki edits Swami15:01
Swamihaleyb: just made a small change15:01
haleyb#topic Announcements15:01
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haleybNeutron midcycle is coming up15:02
haleybhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-midcycle15:02
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haleybobondarev, Swami - were you two still planning on attending?  I know we had added a DVR topic for discussion15:03
obondarevo/15:03
Swamihaleyb: I need to get approval, I am waiting.15:03
obondarevsorry for being late15:03
obondarevI'm waiting for approval too15:03
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haleybok, we can talk later then15:04
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haleybi do have approval, but it's *cold* up there :)15:04
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Swamihaleyb: in the worst case we can still work remotely15:05
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haleybSwami: right, we can have a remote midcycle for DVR15:05
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haleyb#topic Live Migration15:06
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Swamihaleyb: the good news is that the live migration patch seems to fix the floatingip ssh issue15:06
haleybthe tempest failure?15:06
Swamihaleyb: not the tempest failure, I have not tested all test cases.15:07
haleybSwami: which issue, since there are a few seemingly15:07
Swamihaleyb: But it seems to fix the critical bug that we have. - Block migration with floatingip ssh fails.15:07
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obondarevSwami: oh, so it helps?15:08
SwamiI need to do more testing on all use cases.15:08
Swamiobondarev: yes.15:08
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obondarevSwami: great!15:08
Swamiobondarev: haleyb: still the patches are WIP. But it would be great if I can get some early feedback.15:09
obondarevSwami: so what is the channel of nova telling neutron to configure fip namespace on dest host?15:09
haleybSwami: so this passed in jenkins?  or your testing?15:09
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Swamiobondarev: Nova does not mandate that. But all nova mentioned was to call the "setup_networks_on_host"15:09
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obondarevSwami: ok, I need to look at the patches15:10
SwamiSince we internally use the 'host' on floatingip, we can now use 'dest_host' along with the existing host.15:10
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Swamiobondarev: This patch is based on your input, were to add the new destination as part of the 'portbinding:profile'15:10
obondarevSwami: ah, good to hear it works15:10
Swamiobondarev: I am not using the portbinding table extensions for this patch.15:11
Swamiobondarev: I have also discussed with kevinbenton and this and he is also ok with our approach.15:11
SwamiThis approach will reduce the work on the api. If we introduce the extension, then we might have to change the api to add the new destination host.15:11
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haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/275420/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260738/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073/ - any reviews in addition to those ?15:12
haleybthat's nova/server/agent15:12
Swamihaleyb: at this time, these are the only three patches.15:12
Swamihaleyb: thanks for your early review comment and refactor on the nova patch. That looked good.15:13
haleybgreat, good job on getting those started15:13
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haleybi'm sure there's some more cleanups there, but it looks good15:14
SwamiI only had one concern, in the nova for a particular case, it is calling 'setup_networks_on_host" and then immediately it calls "portbinding".15:15
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SwamiSo there is not enough time delay between a pre-migration phase and portbinding phase there, but let us evaluate all the test cases and see how it goes.15:16
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haleybSwami: would be good to get some nova core's on that to get feedback, as well as kevin15:17
Swamihaleyb: as that's what I am hopping.15:17
Swamihaleyb: also I found a note in the nova midcycle etherpad to fix the "migration_instance_start".15:18
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SwamiBut when I looked into the code, it seemed that "setup_networks_on_host" is more reasonable since it is ahead in the call.15:18
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Swamicarl_baldwin: did you have any update from the nova midcylce on this particular issue.15:19
Swamis/midcylce/midcycle15:20
carl_baldwinSwami: I didn't follow it closely enough.  armax might have an update to give.  Sorry.15:20
Swamicarl_baldwin: thanks15:20
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Swamithat's all for the live migration.15:21
haleyb#topic Bugs15:21
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SwamiWe had three new bugs that was filed this week.15:22
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154025915:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1540259 in neutron "uselist should be True to DVRPortBinding orm.relationship" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to ZongKai LI (lzklibj)15:22
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SwamiThis bug is a straight forward one and also has a patch for it.15:22
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/27455015:23
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SwamiAll ready review is in progress for this patch.15:23
SwamiSo nothing more to discuss here.15:23
Swamilet us move on.15:23
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154140615:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1541406 in neutron "IPv6 prefix delegation does not work with DVR" [Undecided,New]15:23
SwamiThis is a new bug that was filed yesterday.15:24
haleybritesh found this, i reproduced it yesterday15:24
Swamihaleyb: yes15:24
Swamihaleyb: is it confirmed then15:24
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haleybyes, l3-agent is using wrong namespace in the PD case15:25
Swamihaleyb: is it using the snat namespace or the router namespace.15:25
haleybrouter, should be using snat15:25
Swamiok,15:26
haleybor it needs more work too...15:26
Swamigot it.15:26
SwamiThe next one in the list is15:26
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/153836915:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1538369 in neutron "re factor add_router_interface in l3_dvr_db.py" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia)15:27
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SwamiThis is not a bug, but a refactor request.15:27
SwamiSo nothing more on this bug.15:27
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SwamiThe next one is the DVR+HA15:28
SwamiThis patch needs review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/15:28
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obondarevIt had some issues with scheduling staff, need to look through it again15:28
Swamiobondarev: thanks.15:29
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SwamiThe next high one in the list is15:29
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146215415:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to ZongKai LI (lzklibj)15:29
SwamiThis is also under review for a while and having slow progress.15:30
carl_baldwinI need to look again at this.  Last time I looked, I was very confused about how routes were added.15:30
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Swamicarl_baldwin: thanks, yes I agree that this patch is not very clear.15:31
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haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/246855/ is patch15:31
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:31
SwamiThe next one is the15:32
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/152282415:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522824 in neutron "DVR multinode job: test_shelve_instance failure due to SSHTimeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang)15:32
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haleybThat bug and a number of others all fall under https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21546715:33
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Swami_haleyb: yes.15:33
Swami_It needs one more core blessings.15:33
haleybneeds another recheck now that nodepool is happy15:34
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Swami_haleyb: ok.15:35
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haleybjust triggerd  recheck15:35
Swami_haleyb: thanks15:35
Swami_The next one on the list is15:35
Swami_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/144525515:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445255 in neutron "DVR FloatingIP to unbound allowed_address_pairs does not work" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:35
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* haleyb re-assigns :)15:36
Swami_This patch needs review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254439/15:36
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haleybSwami: ot15:36
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haleybit's in merge conflict, i'll take a look15:36
Swami_haleyb: yes, I will push it after addressing the issue.15:37
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haleybsounds good15:37
Swami_That's all I had for bugs this week.15:37
haleyb#topic Gate failures15:38
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haleybhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153838715:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1538387 in neutron "fdb_chg_ip_tun throwing exception because fdb_entries not in correct format" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)15:38
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/272986 is out for review, been some comments15:39
Swami_haleyb: will take a look at it.15:39
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haleybthere was also a follow-on by kevin regarding "marshalling" of fdb entries, carl_baldwin had a good comment so it needs an update15:40
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/27460515:40
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haleybhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1454921 is another causing exceptions15:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1454921 in neutron "OVS DVR: KeyError: 'gateway_mac'" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui)15:41
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haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/272025/ out for review15:41
Swami_haleyb: This bug seem to have been created a while back.15:42
haleybobondarev: can you take another look at that review ^^15:42
Swami_I remember that I fixed a bug similar to this one a while back.15:42
Swami_I will take a look at it again.15:42
obondarevhaleyb: sure15:42
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haleybSwami_: yes, i think we just never noticed, but the exception has been in the logs for a while, agent just kept on running15:43
Swami_haleyb: ok, thanks15:43
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haleybThe single-node DVR job has been tracking the CVR one pretty closely, so nothing there.  Once the migration issues are fixed we can look at the multinode jobs further15:44
Swami_haleyb: obondarev: on migrate volume error, do we have more details on what does that test really do.15:44
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Swami_haleyb: Sometimes the graph kind of does not give you the right picture.15:45
obondarevSwami_: I'm afraid I don't15:45
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Swami_need to understand more on those failing tests.15:46
haleyb#topic Performance/Scalability15:48
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haleybobondarev: all changes are merged :)15:49
obondarevhaleyb: right :)15:49
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haleybwhat will you do with all the spare time?15:49
obondarevI think I will go with a couple of follow ups15:49
Swami_obondarev: nice work15:49
obondarevminot however15:49
obondarevminor*15:49
obondarevSwami_: thanks15:49
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haleyb#topic Open Discussion15:50
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Swami_since we have almost reduced most of the single node failures we have to target on the multinode failures. May be the live migration patch can help, but we should see if there are any other test cases that are not aligned with live migration and still fails in upstream.15:51
carl_baldwinobondarev: Great work on that one.15:53
Swami_I don't have any other topic for today.15:53
obondarevcarl_baldwin: thanks. And thanks for your reviews folks15:53
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haleybSwami_:  yes, agreed, let's just file bugs as we find issues15:54
Swami_haleyb: will do15:55
Swami_haleyb: obondarev: did you receive the emails from the openstack summit on the dvr talks submission15:55
obondarevSwami_: yeah, I did15:55
haleybI did forget to mention earlier that I will miss the next two meetings, school break week and heading on vacation - I'll coordinate with Swami_  to chair alone in my absence15:56
Swami_obondarev: thanks15:56
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Swami_haleyb: no problem.15:56
obondarevSwami_: thank you15:56
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haleybanything else?15:57
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Swami_no15:58
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haleybwell, good work everyone on getting things into much better shape15:58
haleyb#endmeeting15:58
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Swami_bye15:58
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SukhdevFolks, time for ML2 meeting16:00
yamamotohi16:01
scheuran__o/16:01
rkukurahi16:01
Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_ml216:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  3 16:01:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:02
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_February_3.2C_201616:02
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Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:02
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SukhdevAnybody has any announcement to make?16:02
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rkukuraSummit CFP deadline was a few hours ago - anyone know when voting starts?16:03
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SukhdevI do not know when the voting starts -16:04
Sukhdevprobably in a week or so16:04
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SukhdevIf you have submission where you like us to vote, lets know16:05
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SukhdevLets dive into the agenda16:05
rkukuraI submitted one called “Understanding ML2 Port Binding” that may be of interest to this group, so keep an eye out for it!16:05
Sukhdevrkukura : very appropriate topic -16:06
scheuran__rkukura, sure - this is also something I'm interested in :)16:06
Sukhdevactually many people do not understand it16:07
Sukhdevso, it will be a good topic to cover16:07
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rkukurait also needs to be documented, so I’m hoping the material for the talk can be turned into a start of a document on it16:07
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SukhdevI think you should prepare the material anyway - regardless of the talk being approved or not - it will be a great service :-):-)16:08
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Sukhdev#topic: limited-portsec implementation16:09
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Sukhdevhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/250036/16:09
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SukhdevI see this is getting good attention16:09
Sukhdevdo we need to discuss anything here?16:10
Sukhdevyalei is not here16:11
Sukhdevbased upon the number of comments on the patch, it seems to be in good shape =16:12
Sukhdevif anybody has anything else it is better to put it in the review itself16:12
Sukhdev#topic: Modular L2 Agent update16:13
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Sukhdevscheuran__ : want to chime in?16:13
scheuran__sure16:13
scheuran__the major patchset merged last week16:13
Sukhdevcongratulations!!!16:13
scheuran__now there is the one missing that moves the code into a separate file...16:13
scheuran__regarding macvtap integration I pushed the first patchsets16:14
Sukhdevcan you post the link?16:14
scheuran__but currently there is a discussion on the rfe going on regarding anti spoofing support in macvtap16:14
scheuran__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:macvtap_agent16:15
scheuran__seems like this support is very restricted - so we need to understand the details first...16:15
Sukhdevmakes sense16:16
scheuran__#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/148097916:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1480979 in neutron "[RFE] Adding macvtap ml2 driver and agent" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Andreas Scheuring (andreas-scheuring)16:16
scheuran__that's it :)16:16
Sukhdevscheuran__ : hats off to you - that is some good work16:17
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scheuran__thanks! I hope it will continue ;)16:18
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Sukhdevanybody has any questions/comments for scheuran__ ?16:18
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Sukhdev#topic: Routed networks16:20
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Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/16:20
neiljerramhi16:20
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Sukhdevneiljerram: hi16:21
SukhdevSo, I reviewed this patch and posted some comments on this16:21
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rkukuraI still owe a review on this16:22
Sukhdevthis patch addresses use case for larger deployments -16:22
Sukhdevrkukura : you should - this will tie into HPB16:23
neiljerramI'm afraid I'm still behind on detailed review of the latest draft.  Sorry for that.  It means I haven't seen your comments yet.16:23
neiljerramHPB?16:23
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neiljerramOh, just worked it out.16:24
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neiljerram(Hierarchical port binding)16:24
rkukuraright16:24
Sukhdevyup16:24
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neiljerramWell it sounds like we should continue in Gerrit. Your input is very much appreciated.16:25
rkukuraneiljerram: Is this still targetted at Mitaka?16:25
SukhdevIn a nut shell it provides similar functionality as HPB, but, by using L3 underlay instead of overlay (e.g. VxLAN) networks16:25
neiljerramrkukura, formally I'm not sure what the current metadata says. But realistically I think that unfeasible16:26
rkukuraSukhdev: They are different ways to scale, but I’m not sure its really similar to HPB. We do need to make sure they don’t interfere with each other16:27
Sukhdevrkukura : correct - my comments are related to that - to make sure they do not break HPB16:28
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neiljerramrkukura, On the other hand, I think Carl might say that he'd really like the _spec_ to be agreed by Mitaka.  Otherwise the discussion might continue for ever.16:28
neiljerramrkukura, But I very much doubt that the code will be in place by Mitaka.16:29
rkukuraI will try to review this ASAP. Agree getting the spec approved now makes sense, even if the implementation won’t make M16:29
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SukhdevThis concept was discussed in one of the neutron mid-cycles - we did extensive white-board discussion on this topic16:30
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Sukhdevfew vendors who want this implemented were present in the room to describe the problem/use-case16:31
Sukhdevthis is essentially to address the scale16:31
Sukhdevworks very much like HPB -16:31
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SukhdevIn fact, I presented HPB in the same meeting -16:31
Sukhdevthey want to be able to dynamically build L2 segments and inter-connect them via L3 routers16:32
Sukhdevas oppose to HPB where one would inter-connect them by using overlay network16:33
Sukhdevinstead of using L2 overlay on top of L3, they directly want to use L316:33
Sukhdevthis allows them flexibility in IP address assignments16:34
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Sukhdevsimilar to HPB, when nova schedules a VM on a hypervisor, it will assign the host_id and will ignore the IP address for the port16:35
Sukhdevlater neutron will bind the L2 segment to the host and assign a segment and IP address16:36
rkukuraSukhdev: Does the spec describe how this deferred IP assignment will be implemented?16:37
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SukhdevI think some of the information is there - but, this part still needs to be worked out16:37
Sukhdevthere is lots of TODO16:37
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Sukhdevthe idea is they want to be able to assign the IP address to the segments as they are build (based upon the placements) as oppose to statically at the time of subnet creation16:39
Sukhdevthis does change some of basic constructs of neutron16:40
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Sukhdevrkukura : In one of my comments, I even mentioned your name - i.e. check with rkurura :-):-)16:41
Sukhdevso, hopefully, they will pull you in :-)16:41
rkukuraThe most significant is that networks are no longer L2 broadcast domains, right?16:41
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Sukhdevcorrect16:41
SukhdevI think we can have more productive discussion about it once everybody has reviewed the spec16:42
rkukuraSukhdev: agreed16:42
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Sukhdevneiljerram : would you like to add anything?16:42
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rkukuraSo HPB is a way to scale while preserving L2 adjacency for networks, while routed networks is a way to scale while giving that up16:43
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Sukhdevrkukura : yes16:43
neiljerramnothing at this time, thanks.  I will look at your comments on the review.16:43
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Sukhdevin fact, there is a new knob being added called l2_adjacency which will be set to true/false to support old/new model16:44
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Sukhdevsounds good16:45
Sukhdevanything else on this?16:46
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Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:46
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Sukhdevany body wants to discuss anything?16:47
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Sukhdevsilence means we are done :-):-)16:48
SukhdevThanks folks - it was a good discussion16:49
Sukhdevwill see you same place next week16:49
Sukhdevhave a great rest of the week16:49
Sukhdevbye16:49
rkukurathanks Sukhdev!16:49
scheuran__bye16:49
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:49
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate16:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  3 16:59:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:59
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mugsie#topic Roll Call16:59
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rsyedo/16:59
sonuko/16:59
timsimo/16:59
pglasso/16:59
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mugsiefederico3: ekarlso Kiall courtesy ping17:00
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mugsie#topic Action Items from last week17:01
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mugsieonly one out standing17:01
mugsiemugsie arrange sync re workshop17:01
mlavalleo/17:01
mugsie#action mugsie arrange sync re workshop17:01
mugsie#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:01
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timsimNothing new?17:02
timsimReally?17:02
timsimWE HAVE ACHIEVED STABILITY17:02
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mlavallewow!17:02
mugsie\o/17:02
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mugsie#topic Backports17:03
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mugsie#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/485874/17:03
mugsieso, please review and nominate patches17:03
federico3o/17:03
timsim(There are no new bugs)17:03
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mugsiefe3f7df Fix wildcard NS record17:04
mugsiethats all I can see17:04
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mugsieanyone else see anything that should be back ported17:04
mugsie?17:04
sonukc3dec4e Merge "Add docs for PATCH and DELETE call of Zone transfer request"17:04
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mugsieyeah17:05
mugsiecaa9cc6 Merge "Add validation for MX, TXT, and SSHFP records"17:05
mugsieas well17:05
timsimlol thanks for catching up irc. I'm back now17:05
mugsienice17:05
mugsie#useARealIRCClient17:05
mugsie:P17:05
timsim#useslack17:05
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* timsim is kidding, don't open that can of worms17:05
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mugsieOK, anyone want to do these backports?17:06
mugsiedont all jump at once17:06
mugsie:D17:06
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federico3<--17:06
mugsie#action federico3 to backport caa9cc6 c3dec4e fe3f7df17:07
mugsie#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247588/17:07
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mugsie#link17:07
mugsie#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247588/17:07
mugsiebasically - me and federico3 wanted to see if there is anything else we need from this17:08
mugsieor if there is an alternate direction17:08
timsimI'm not a fan.17:08
mugsieif not - we should test the hell out of it before merging, as it could be risky17:08
mugsiei got that from the comment :)17:08
federico3timsim: ...because it will require more work in future to extend it to other use cases?17:09
federico3or you want to propose a different implementation?17:09
timsimI think, as heavy handed as it is, it's not really solving the problems that it could be.17:09
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timsimI think I could propose an alternate implementation, but definitely not in the next 2-5 minutes17:10
timsimhint: worker model17:10
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mugsietimsim: worker model could cover some of it17:10
timsimyou can do anything with worker model (also zombo.com)17:10
mugsiebut not a global ratelimit17:10
timsimSome intelligent caching could get you a global rate limit17:11
mugsietrue17:12
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timsimRate limiting notifies basically solves that problem.17:12
mugsiebut this as a shorter term fix for the NS problem - should we merge this17:12
timsimRate limit + queue17:12
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mugsiethe worker model is ... unlikely to merge pre M17:13
timsimI think it's too much technical debt for something we'll "fix later" ;)17:13
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timsim+ performance overhead17:14
timsimBut that's just me17:14
federico3certainly the worker model would require some major rework of this code17:14
timsimYou basically wouldn't need it.17:14
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timsimYou'd probably solve the problem a different way.17:14
federico3yet, afaict we are talking about different timelines17:14
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federico3yep17:14
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mugsiemy issue is we may release something that currently causes all zones to go to pending17:15
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timsimWe already have, haven't we?17:15
mugsieand when a periodic timer hits will flood the Downstream servers17:16
mugsiewe have, and I would like to avoid doing it again :)17:16
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mugsiewhat can we do in the short term to alivate this without causing issues when we come to the worker model17:16
timsimDocument that you can shoot yourself in the foot if you create a bunch of resources and than change the NS records?17:17
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timsimIt seems like a thing that would give pretty much any operator pause.17:17
timsimIf you've only got a few hundred zones (probably everyone running Designate) it wouldn't even be a huge issue.17:18
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mugsiewell, apart from all your zones being in PENDING17:18
timsimWell yeah, but you're doing a migration at that point.17:18
timsimand they should fix themselves over time17:18
timsimand it's not like you can't continue to update them during that time.17:18
mugsieOK.17:19
mugsiecan we at least give this a good dose of testing?17:19
timsimProbably not before the mid-cycle (from us)17:20
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mugsieOK - well that is very close anyway17:20
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mugsiewe can stick an hour down to talk it through there if needs be17:20
mugsie#action mugsie circle back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247588/ next week17:21
mugsiefederico3: anything else to add ?17:21
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federico3no, we can discuss this more extensively next week17:22
mugsiekk17:22
mugsie#topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring)17:22
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mlavallehi17:22
mugsiemlavalle: over to you :)17:22
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mlavalleI submitted follow up patches to Nova https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271578/417:22
mlavalleI added unit tests that I think are complete now17:23
mlavalleone of the jobs failed yesterday with 1 test17:23
mlavalleTook a look at the logs and it's unrelated to my patch17:23
mlavalleso I rechecked it an 1 hour ago. It should pass17:23
mugsieOK, cool17:23
mlavalleI also continue working on the new chapter for the Networking Guide17:24
mugsiegreat17:24
mlavalleI should push patchset at the end of the week17:24
mlavalleand I saw we have a talk proposed for Austin.... Looking forward to it!17:24
mlavalleand that's it from me this week17:25
mlavallequestions?17:25
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mugsiedo we need to push nova for buy in?17:25
mugsieor is it likely to get reviewed by in time?17:25
mlavalleI would apreciatte if you ping John, the PTL:17:25
mugsiewill do17:26
mugsie#action mugsie ping johnthetubaguy about the DNS name patch17:26
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mugsieanyone else?17:26
mugsieOK - thanks fopr the work mlavalle17:27
mugsie#topic sonuk: tempest plugin implementation17:27
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mugsiesonuk: you around?17:27
sonuki am finding lots of issue in existing tempest in designate as it is outdated causing import and other issue. I am fixing the issues. I will submit the patch regarding tempest plugin soon.17:27
mugsieOK, cool17:27
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mugsieif you need help, just shout17:27
mugsieany questions for sonuk ?17:28
sonukmusie:ok sure.17:28
sonukmugsie:ok sure.17:28
mugsieI know pglass and ekarlso did most of the work on those tests, so they are good people to ping as well17:28
mugsieok17:28
mugsie#topic Open Discussion17:29
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mugsieanyone have off agenda items?17:29
pglasssonuk: fyi, the functional tests don't actually use tempest. they use tempest-lib.17:29
sonukyep i saw that17:29
sonukmugsie: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/zone-transfer-accept-list-delete17:30
* mugsie reads17:30
mugsiewe actually ahve a way to list all accepted zone transfer requests17:31
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sonukmugsie: but we cant do it through rest apiu right17:31
mugsiewe can17:31
sonukmugsie: i am not able to execute.17:32
mugsieGET /zones/tasks/transfer_requests?status=COMPLETE17:32
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mugsiewil show all your requests that have been completed17:32
mugsieyou cannot delete an accepted request, as it is part of the history of another object17:33
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sonukmugsie: ok  thanks.  but i think we should have a "accepted zone transfer request list" cli17:34
mugsieah, in the CLI that could bu useful17:34
mugsiebe*17:34
sonukmugsie: yep17:35
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mugsiecool - that sounds good to me17:35
mugsieanything else?17:36
MPBNKAhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/tenant-domainid-for-designate-sink17:36
mugsieMPBNKA: did the spec get updated for this?17:36
MPBNKAno I am not sure how to proceed from here17:36
mugsieOK - last week we said it should be aimed at the v2 api17:38
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mugsieand that it should not be part of the zones api itself - it needs to be separate17:38
mugsiethere is an example of a generic one -that should be made for just a domain per tenant17:39
mugsie#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89689/17:39
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MPBNKAok17:40
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mugsieso, there should be a new API endpoint (like /project/default-domain ) that people can POST a zone ID to17:40
MPBNKAbut they still wont be able to change the fqdn assigned by default by sink17:40
MPBNKAthey would need admin creds17:40
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mugsieno - that would be stored on a per tenant basis17:41
MPBNKAok will check this17:41
mugsieit would be a new table in the DB, with project_id, default_zone_id as the columns17:41
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mugsieif you have any trouble ping me in IRC17:42
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mugsieanything else?17:42
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mugsietimsim: ready for a long flight?17:43
timsimAlways17:43
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mugsiewelcome to how the rest of the world feels :)17:43
mugsietimsim: will ping on that after17:43
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mugsieOK - if that is it - see ya'll in IRC / inperson next week for some17:43
mugsie#endmeeting17:43
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cp16net#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  3 18:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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pmackinno/18:00
cp16nethello everyone18:00
nshaho/18:01
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cp16nethi and welcome nshah18:01
dougshelley66o/18:01
pbelamgeo/18:02
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pmaliksudo rm -rf /18:02
peterstac-mo/18:03
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pmackinnoh my18:03
atomic77_o/18:03
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cp16netsomeone gives up... :-P18:03
pmackinnlol18:03
cp16net#topic  Trove pulse update18:04
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cp16net#link http://bit.ly/1VQyg0018:04
cp16netwe've kept up the momentum18:04
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cp16neti'm happy with the results18:05
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cp16netnot much else from me on that18:06
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cp16net#topic Announcements18:06
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cp16net#info Trove Mid Cycle Meetup (Feb 9-11) Next week!18:06
cp16net#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveMitakaSprint18:07
pmackinnyes indeed18:07
cp16netfrom the looks it sounds like there will be a decent turn out18:07
pmackinncp16net, would like contact emails for attendees so i can request meal preferences etc.18:07
cp16netlast count i had was 1118:07
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cp16net#action cp16net get list together for attendees18:08
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cp16netpmackinn: ok i'll do that today18:08
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pmackinnanyone heartbroken if no t-shirts?18:08
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dougshelley66certianly18:08
dougshelley66red hat can't afford t-shirts?18:08
vgnbkro/18:08
* pmackinn can't outdo the la laker uniforms of last meetup 18:08
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vkmco/18:09
cp16netsad panda :-P18:09
cp16net#info put ideas to talk about on the etherpad at the midcycle18:09
cp16net#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-trove-midcycle18:10
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dougshelley66cp16net i think vkmc put up a link that was for mitaka18:10
dougshelley66given this isn't the liberty midcycle18:10
vkmc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-midcycle18:10
vkmcsame content18:11
dougshelley66we should probably use that one18:11
cp16netoh crap i'm terrible18:11
cp16netyeah18:11
cp16netgood call18:11
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cp16netthanks vkmc18:11
vkmcnp18:11
cp16net#info use the mitaka url for the etherpad18:12
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cp16net#info we will cancel next weeks meeting since everyone will be at the midcycle18:12
cp16net#info reminder that m-3 is March 1-318:13
cp16netthe bp are more important than the bugs to review18:13
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cp16netso please help out with those18:13
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cp16netalright thats all the announcements i have18:14
amrith./18:14
amrithsorry, am late18:14
amrith(fashionably)18:14
cp16net#topic open discussion18:14
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pmackinnconfig groups...is the long term goal to have that for all datastores?18:15
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cp16netpmackinn: if the datastore can be configured i think it makes sense18:16
pmackinnany reason it wouldn't make sense for say mysql or mariadb?18:16
cp16netthis allows for a bit more flexibility for the user18:16
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cp16netpmackinn: no because some configuration requires root and or restart of the service18:17
dougshelley66pmackinn config groups are already implemented for mysql and maria18:18
cp16netyeah its there18:18
cp16neti wrote it originally for mysql18:18
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dougshelley66i believe we also have it for mongo/redis18:19
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dougshelley66and cassandra is en route18:19
cp16netyup18:19
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amrithpmackinn, what were you getting at?18:19
pmackinnamrith, postgresql templates got reworked as part of config groups so problematic paths *seemed* to go away18:20
pmackinntrying to understand the bigger scope18:20
cp16netok18:21
dougshelley66pmackinn you should talk to atomic77_18:21
pmackinnk18:21
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dougshelley66and/or pmackinn18:22
dougshelley66sorry18:22
dougshelley66pmalik18:22
cp16netwe have a few specs that need to be reviewed if they are planning to be in Mitaka18:24
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cp16netalso for those that are here can we get a sense of how comfortable you are with the specs you have to be code complete and merged by the end of Feb?18:25
cp16net#info pxc-grow-shrink and pxc-root-enable are waiting review18:26
peterstac-mI should be good18:26
pmalikWell config groups are not enabled for Maria...18:26
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pmalikhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/153225618:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1532256 in Trove "Configuration groups not supported on Mariadb" [Medium,Confirmed]18:27
imandhanI have a couchdb user and db operations spec in review and I'm working on the code but I will be fine on the timeline18:27
atomic77_ all is good on my side18:27
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johnmaI have one for couchdb backup & restore thats waiting for reviews18:27
cp16netpeterstac-m: thanks18:27
cp16netimandhan: thanks18:27
cp16netatomic77_: great18:28
cp16netjohnma: thanks18:28
johnmaand I have another one for couchdb replication. I have the code ready, can push it up for review today/tomorrow but the spec also needs reviews18:28
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johnmaits master-master replication18:28
vgnbkrI'm comfortable my stuff will be pushed up.18:29
cp16netvgnbkr: sounds good18:29
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cp16netthanks for everyones status its helpful to know everything is going well18:30
cp16netdoes anyone have any blockers that i can help with?18:30
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imandhanhas anyone run redstack install lately? wondering if things are buggy or not at the moment18:31
cp16netimandhan: i've run it last night18:31
cp16netno problems that i saw18:32
cp16netwhen i was testing the cassandra patches18:32
imandhanokay, great! thanks cp16net :)18:32
cp16netnp18:32
cp16netimandhan: if you have issues let me know and we can get them worked out18:32
imandhanokay, I'll be trying it out in a bit today18:33
cp16netok18:33
cp16netthats all i have for today18:33
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cp16netanyone have anything else they'd like to bring up18:33
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cp16netalright if nothing else.. have a great week18:34
johnmaThanks cp16net18:34
cp16netsafe travels18:34
cp16net#endmeeting18:35
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bloganooooooooooooo/////////////////20:00
fnavalo/20:00
johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  3 20:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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sbalukoffHowdy, howdy!20:00
bharathmo/20:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
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blogan#startvote do a vote?20:00
openstackOnly the meeting chair may start a vote.20:00
fnaval#help20:00
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johnsomHi folks20:00
sbalukoffHeh!20:00
dougwigo/20:00
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bana_khi20:00
johnsom#topic Announcements20:00
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ptoohill0/20:01
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johnsomSo we have a bunch of patches on the high priority list this week.20:01
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sbalukoffIndeed!20:01
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johnsomIf you add a patch, please put a working link in (makes my life easier)20:01
johnsomSo, let me start....20:01
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johnsomUpdates the failover flow for active/standby20:01
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/25372420:01
johnsomThis is still sitting out there with one +220:02
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johnsomI know sbalukoff tried to test this out, but couldn't get the base act/stby going.20:02
johnsomThanks for giving it a go20:02
sbalukoffYep-- I should have time later this week to look into it more closely.20:02
johnsomOn to our L7 work!20:02
johnsomShared pools support20:03
rm_worko/20:03
sbalukoffYay!20:03
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/25636920:03
sbalukoffHere's the etherpad:20:03
sbalukoff#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-l7-todo-list20:03
johnsomI am in the middle of re-reviewing this one.  Will finish today.20:03
sbalukoffThe most important one is the patch johnsom linked.20:03
sbalukoffNice!20:03
johnsomL7 support20:03
sbalukoffAgain, I hope we can merge it soon--20:03
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/148232/20:03
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johnsomYeah, shared pools looking pretty good so far20:03
sbalukoffI expect to be mostly done with the L7 code by mid-month, and it would be really nice not to have to rework everything, since it all depends on that shared pools patch.20:04
evgenyfMade l7 a separate extension20:04
johnsomSo, L7 is the next layer on this.20:04
sbalukoffevgenyf: Awesome!20:04
xgermanevgenyf this is good had a q regarding that in neutron meeting20:04
sbalukoffYep, I think the Octavia schema-addition and repo patches are mostly stable.20:04
evgenyfThere are issues on gate I need to fix20:04
johnsomSomeone added - L7 CLI20:04
sbalukoffExpect an update to the repo patch for l7rules sanity checking today or tomorrow.20:04
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/21727620:05
evgenyfI added l7 CLI20:05
eranraHi Guys20:05
sbalukoffHowdy, eranra!20:05
blogancan we talk about pools being direct children of load balancers?20:05
blogani kid!20:05
bloganim kidding20:05
johnsomSo CLI is up for review.  Is the L7 API in neutron-lbaas ready such that this could be tested?20:05
ptoohillhes really not20:05
johnsomWelcome eranra20:05
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evgenyfI will push another commit for L7 CLI tomorrow20:06
evgenyfis reedip here?20:06
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blogangrr scenario tests failing20:06
johnsomOk, moving on20:07
johnsomAdd spec for active-active20:07
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/23463920:07
sbalukoffblogan: Seriously? Or are you trolling?20:07
sbalukoff(Wow, I lagged out there... though blogan was serious for a moment...)20:07
blogansbalukoff: on that sahred pools patch20:07
johnsomAgain, I have gone through about half of that one.  Will finish soon20:07
blogansbalukoff: depends what comment you lagged out on20:08
sbalukoffblogan: That one fails on other patches all the time as well. It's the session persistence test, right? I can't get the damned thing to happen locall.20:08
sbalukofflocally.20:08
sbalukoffjohnsom: Thanks for that! I know eranra and dean will appreciate that. :)20:08
blogansbalukoff: yeah, not sure what to do with it20:08
blogansbalukoff: active active spec?20:08
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johnsomYeah, that last link was active/active.20:09
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sbalukoffblogan: Er... I think I might have lagged again. I was talking about the shared pools patch. Except for my last comment to johnsom which is about the active-active spec.20:09
johnsomI guess IRC is lagging bad today20:09
bloganjohnsom: yeah i was trying to get us back on course since i got us off course :)20:09
TrevorVSorry, am here.20:09
sbalukoffNo worries. :)20:09
blogani think its just sbalukoff lagging20:09
sbalukoffThat wouldn't be new, eh. ;)20:09
blogansbalukoff: lagging not slacking bwahaha20:10
johnsomOk.  It's a long list, so if I don't see chatter on items, I am moving on..  Maybe too fast, let me know20:10
* sbalukoff winces.20:10
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sbalukoffjohnsom: +120:10
johnsomHorizon panels20:10
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard+status:open20:10
johnsomJust a few more panels up for review.  Really good progress here.  Thanks!20:11
xgermanajmiller says they are being in good shape20:11
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sbalukoffDang, I meant to review those last week. Ok. I'll add them to my list and see if I can do that this weekend, if they don't merge before then.20:11
ajmillerYes, several merged last week, and there are others that are now close.20:11
bloganjohnsom: when is M-3?20:12
sbalukoffExcellent!20:12
johnsomFeb 29ish20:12
sbalukoff#link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html20:12
johnsomIs feature complete20:12
bloganok i need to get the single create call completed this weekend20:12
xgermannot sure if the panels follow the drum though20:12
johnsom#link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/mitaka/schedule.html20:12
johnsomActually it's that link now...20:12
bloganwe're going to have a mad rush of new features getting in that will probably cause breakages20:12
sbalukoffOh, ok.20:13
sbalukoffWell... we have a couple weeks of bug-fix after that right?20:13
johnsomYeah, there is an RC planned20:13
johnsomThere are a few smaller patches that someone added to the please review list:20:14
johnsomEndpoint filtering20:14
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/271476/20:14
johnsomCSR openssl fix20:14
sbalukoffblogan: Note, also: I think you'll make all our lives easier if you make the get-me-a-load-balancer dependent on the shared pools patch. ;)20:14
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/272708/20:14
johnsomNova interface instead of Nova network20:14
blogansbalukoff: or just yours :)20:14
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/27373320:14
johnsomI know there has been some discussion on those this week.20:14
blogansbalukoff: will make my life easier if you put the shared pools patch dependent on the get me a load balancer review :)20:14
sbalukoffblogan: Except mine's basically ready for merge now.. ;)20:15
blogansbalukoff: insignificant details20:15
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275337/20:15
rm_workyeah i just looked at blogan and asked him how long it had been since he updated his >_>20:15
sbalukoffHaha!20:15
johnsomJust a few minor comments so far on shared pools from me20:15
rm_work(but he couldn't hear me)20:15
TrevorVThis review is being tested by me right now, but if people could look it over, that'd be great20:15
sbalukoffjohnsom: Sweet!20:15
bloganjohnsom: yeah the nova interface thing20:15
sbalukoffI will act quickly on them. Count on that!20:15
minwang2anti-affinity20:16
minwang2#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272344/20:16
bloganonly reason i'm pushign back on going only the os-interfaces is because our public cloud does not support it, and i know its a sucky reason but it is our reason20:16
johnsomYeah, I think anti-affinity is close.20:16
sbalukoffblogan: Valid enough. If you can't use it, it's useless to you.20:16
xgermanyeah, I changed the patch20:16
xgermanblogan20:16
johnsomWe need an enable/disable20:16
sbalukoffminwang2: Oh, good!20:16
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports20:17
bloganjohnsom: enable disable for?20:17
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johnsomblogan enable/disable for anti-affinity20:17
bloganjohnsom: ah okay20:17
johnsomblogan Otherwise active/standby will fail on single compute devstack20:18
xgermanblogan it breaks single node clouds20:18
sbalukoffStill going, full steam ahead. L7 is coming together nicely.20:18
xgermanNICE!20:18
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johnsomsbalukoff Good to hear!20:18
bloganjohnsom: makes sense, i wasn't sure if you were talking about the nova networks thing or the anti-affinity one20:18
evgenyftempest for L7 is not there yet20:18
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johnsomI have been playing whack-a-mole on gate issues, trying to do reviews, and some internal activities.20:18
blogani've been doing mostly internal stuff so i've been largely useless for upstream work, sorry :(20:19
sbalukoffevgenyf: I'll try to respond to your latest L7 patch within the next couple of days. A couple other things have occurred to me since doing the L7Rule sanity checks. :P20:19
xgermanwe have lot’s of internal stuff going on20:19
xgermanso I am also of limited use those days20:19
sbalukoffjohnsom: Thank you very much for (repeatedly) keeping the gate going.20:19
evgenyfsbalukoff: good20:19
rm_worksame, mostly stuck on internal, but got a breath of air yesterday to get a bunch of reviewing done20:19
rm_workstill trying to get to the larger ones (sorry sbalukoff)20:20
bloganxgerman: so like a normal day for you?20:20
bloganxgerman: ZING!!!20:20
johnsomShout out to TrevorV for squashing two bug with one patch this week!20:20
xgermanlol20:20
fnavalstill working on octavia tempest setup20:20
TrevorVAWWWW YISSSS20:20
sbalukoffrm_work: No worries. But hopefully I'm not pissing you off too badly with my comments on your smaller patches. :)20:20
fnaval#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182554/20:20
rm_workmeh :P20:20
TrevorVhttps://media3.giphy.com/media/9PsgUfyrNiKK4/200_s.gif20:20
* blogan golf claps for TrevorV20:20
rm_workI'm trying to figure out what's up with that config value for signing digest hash20:20
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sbalukoffrm_work: It'd be easy enough just to add it to that config.py file. I wouldn't block that, eh!20:21
rm_workyeah but it's already used T_T20:21
johnsomrm_work Thanks.  I didn't see it with a quick review of the config code, so that's why I asked20:21
rm_workso ... wat20:21
sbalukoffrm_work: Yeah, kinda my thoughts too...20:22
rm_workyeah i need to scan again, it might be in a specific file, in which case, good catch20:22
rm_workit'd have to be loaded more globally20:22
johnsom#topic Shared pools & L7: Should integrity validations be made on CLI level? It's validated in API20:22
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johnsomOk, someone added this topic....20:23
evgenyfI did20:23
sbalukoffOh, interesting!20:23
evgenyfNeed your opinion20:23
johnsomevgenyf the floor is yours20:23
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sbalukoffSo... my thought is that we want that to happen deeper. I've been coding so it happens at the repo level.20:23
evgenyfShould we or not do integrity tests on CLI level, I mean, redirect_to_pool pool of a policy and it's listener belong to the same LB? We check it on API20:23
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xgermanI am fine with API only validation20:23
sbalukoffThis makes us less dependent on the api framework.20:23
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xgermanless stuff to keep in sync20:23
sbalukoffIt also means that potentially we have to do less DB calls from the API itself.20:24
sbalukoff(I'm not sure that buys us anything)20:24
sbalukoffNote also:20:24
rm_workjohnsom: yeah found it, https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/octavia/certificates/common/local.py#L5020:24
xgermanyou always need to validate on the API20:24
evgenyfEspecially, unit testing it raises some issues in CLI UT framework20:24
sbalukoffSome validation is happening at the API level already through the wsgi types stuff.20:24
xgermanCLI is not the only client20:24
bharathmrm_work: johnsom: I commented the same url on the patch :-)20:24
sbalukoffOh right-- we're asking about CLI, not API.20:24
rm_workah :P20:25
johnsomYeah, I agree, it makes sense to do validation in the API to catch both CLI and direct REST requests.20:25
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evgenyfUsualy, on CLI we do elementary validations, like if mentioned entities exist, etc..20:25
rm_workbharathm: i don't see that?20:25
nmagnezihello everyone, sorry for being late20:25
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sbalukoffevgenyf: But, basically, if someone tries to do something wrong at the CLI, it'll hit the API, and then the API will return an error, right?20:26
sbalukoffSo, I don't see a problem with that.20:26
bharathmrm_work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272708/520:26
rm_workbharathm: oh, on that one20:26
bharathmYeah stable/liberty20:26
evgenyfsbalukoff: yes, So, I will remove those validations from L7 CLI, Stephen, on shared pool also20:26
sbalukoffSo in any case, the API needs to do integrity checks. But the CLI doesn't have to-- it just needs to respond appropriately to errors from the API.,20:27
xgerman+120:27
evgenyfsbalukoff: right20:27
johnsom+120:27
sbalukoffevgenyf: Oh, did I add those into the shared pools CLI?20:27
johnsomCool.  I'm glad we are really thinking about validation.20:27
xgerman+120:27
evgenyfsbalukoff: I thing yes, but it's not covered with UT yet20:27
bloganI don't think the CLI should do that20:27
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sbalukoffevgenyf: Ok. I can revisit that. Or you can if you want. Doesn't matter that much who does the work, to me. :)20:28
johnsomblogan So you agree with us that we should focus that in the API?20:28
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bloganjohnsom: indeed20:28
sbalukoffNote, we're talking about the Neutron-LBaaS CLI, since an Octavia native CLI doesn't exist.20:28
johnsomExcellent20:28
sbalukoffSo please! Carry on with the shared pools patch!20:28
sbalukoffThat is unaffected by this discussion.20:28
sbalukoff(And its API already does validations.)20:29
rm_workevgenyf: when my barbican-update patch merged, did it break anything of yours that we need to revisit? I know you had some objections to something I was doing, but I never managed to sync up with you before people merged my patch20:29
evgenyfAnother question: Do we really need ">" and "<" comare types for L7 rules?20:29
johnsomsbalukoff No worries, I need to finish that review today20:29
rm_worksorry, I am really bad at staying on-topic T_T20:29
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:29
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johnsomI will solve that issue20:29
sbalukoffrm_work: No worries.20:29
bloganevgenyf: in what context are teh "<" and ">" being used?20:30
sbalukoffHey folks: What do y'all think of making me an Octavia core dev? :D20:30
rm_workthat might be a question for sbalukoff?20:30
evgenyfrm_work: yes I have patch for TLS which is on hold, will resurect it soon20:30
rm_workevgenyf: ok, I was concerned that we didn't get to talk over your objections on my patch though20:30
xgermannmagnezi?20:30
nmagnezixgerman, hi20:30
sbalukoffrm_work: I don't think it broke anything I was directly working on.20:30
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nmagnezixgerman, open discussion part? :)20:30
rm_worksbalukoff: i meant about < and > context for L720:30
xgermanI think you have the floor20:30
xgermanyep20:31
nmagneziaye20:31
nmagneziI wanted to bring this bug your attention https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/154136220:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1541362 in octavia "The diskimage-create script fails to run on Fedora23" [Undecided,New]20:31
nmagnezithis used to work before, not sure why it got broken20:31
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evgenyfblogan: We have < and > on rules next to =, contains, starts_with and ends_with, looks like nobody will use < and > on headers, files or others20:32
sbalukoffnmagnezi: When I tried a fedora image in my test environment, it didn't want to launch in 1GB of RAM.20:32
nmagnezinote: please don't mix it with https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1531092 which is in the works and I actully cherry picked the patch and it seemed to work20:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1531092 in octavia "The diskimage-create script fails to build an amphora image for centos and fedora" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Phillip Toohill (phillip-toohill)20:32
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sbalukoffnmagnezi: However, I didn't see that as *our* problem to solve per se: And the patch did at least fix building the image.20:32
xgermanjohnsom our dib guru?20:33
nmagnezisbalukoff, i'm not sure i'm following20:33
ptoohillsbalukoff: nmagnezi It may be failing because its expecting a config option to be set to true20:33
ptoohillor false20:33
bloganevgenyf: my opinion is always if its not going to be useful don't put it in, if someone wants it, then the need will eventually be known20:33
johnsomnmagnezi Yeah, looking at the log.  I suspect that is an upstream DIB issue with the fedora element.20:33
sbalukoffevgenyf: Technically, you can check a header or cookie against an integer value, and do a > or <20:33
nmagneziptoohill, I was using the script implicitly, by using devstack20:33
sbalukoffBut I have never seen any of our clients actually do that.20:34
sbalukoffSo I'd be OK with dropping those comparison types until someone cries for them.20:34
ptoohillnmagnezi: Im talking about with my patch20:34
ptoohillbuilding the image works with it20:34
blogansbalukoff: +120:34
evgenyfblogan: It's on spec but looks like it's unnecessary, will remove it, when massive reviews will come we can close this dilema finally20:34
ptoohillbuilding lbs may not20:34
bloganevgenyf: sounds good to me20:34
johnsomnmagnezi Did you check in the openstack/diskimage-builder launchpad bugs?20:34
nmagneziptoohill, oh, that one looks like it's in a good direction (worked for me when I cherry-picked)20:34
sbalukoffevgenyf: Ok! I'll update my Octavia patches to remove those comparison types, too.20:34
ptoohillnmagnezi: Ah, good deal, was there another issue?20:35
nmagnezijohnsom, honestly no :(20:35
ptoohilljohnsom: The bug initially wasnt upstream, we needed to update a few things20:35
evgenyfsbalukoff: If someone needs it, we can add them20:35
nmagnezijohnsom, is it a duplicate?20:35
ptoohillhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/272905/20:35
sbalukoffevgenyf: Exactly.20:35
ptoohillI need to fix conflicts, am i on the wrong page here?20:36
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sbalukoffptoohill: I think I +1'd that, right?20:36
nmagneziptoohill, yes. it fails to create an ubuntu based amphora when the script is used on a fedora node20:36
ptoohillIf thats the case, using this patch requires use_upstart = False20:36
ptoohillI have yet to test it, and will get to it, but its documented in the element (should be documented elsewhere?)20:36
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johnsomI'm not sure.  It seems like it is past most of the config stuff and just wrapping up the image file, so that makes me think either our disk size is too small or it's a DIB issue.20:37
ptoohillsbalukoff: You did but it has conflicts now20:37
johnsomptoohill Usually element stuff is documented in the element readme20:38
sbalukoffptoohill: Aah, ok.20:38
sbalukoffjohnsom: +120:38
ptoohilljohnsom: The issue is that it uses upstart by default when we should have used systemd by default(more work i guesS)20:38
ptoohillbut i added patch thats already merged allowing for this configuration20:38
ptoohillim 99% sure that's the issue were discussing20:38
ptoohiller.. sysvinit, whatever20:39
ptoohill:)20:39
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ptoohilljohnsom: Then I should have the proper documentation ;)20:39
nmagneziptoohill, is that about https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1541362 ?20:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1541362 in octavia "The diskimage-create script fails to run on Fedora23" [Undecided,New]20:39
johnsomOk, nmagnezi give it a try and let us know20:39
ptoohillAh, i didnt see this one, ill have to look a little further into it and actually test it out20:40
ptoohilland merge conflicts nmagnezi20:40
nmagnezijohnsom, I managed to cherry-pick and use ptoohill's patch before It got to the merge-conflict state20:41
johnsomevgenyf Did we get your question about > and < answered?20:41
sbalukoffjohnsom, evgenyf: Yes.20:41
nmagnezianother question for you quys, in regards to documentation20:41
evgenyfjohnsom: sure, will remove them for now20:41
sbalukoffjohnsom: We are going to eliminate those comparison types until someone cries for them.20:41
nmagneziIs there a document with best practices for Octavia services installation? allow me to elaborate: I wish to understand how Octavia services can be distributed between nodes (for example: worker node A, healthmonitor in node B etc)20:42
johnsomOk20:42
ptoohillnmagnezi: Ill fix that and update bug reports with my findings here a little later this afternoon20:42
* nmagnezi sending good karma at ptoohill's direction20:42
sbalukoffnmagnezi: I had something in the works for that prior to Liberty, but I'm afraid I didn't get that far20:42
nmagnezithank you :)20:42
sbalukoffIf anyone wants to tackle that, feel free.20:42
sbalukoffOtherwise, I'll try to do it again, after the feature freeze.20:42
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232173/20:43
johnsomThat is the doc sbalukoff was talking about20:43
sbalukoffOh, man, how embarrassing...20:43
sbalukoff;)20:43
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sbalukoffOk, on another note... since this got buried:20:44
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sbalukoffOther than risking the death of the universe and all we hold dear, what do y'all think of the prospect of making me an Octavia core dev?20:45
johnsomnmagnezi In general they don't need to be co-located.  The only pointer is the health manager IPs need to be set in the Octavia.conf so health messages can go to the right nodes20:45
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dougwigsbalukoff: the numbers support it.  http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/octavia/9020:46
xgerman#6 - let’s give him a challenge to get into the top 5 :-)20:47
sbalukoffOh hey! Nifty!20:47
johnsomThanks dougwig, quicker on the draw20:47
dougwig+1 from me, fwiw.20:47
nmagnezijohnsom, but I just gave it as an example, I'm interested to know how to deploy ideally. starting at my multi-node devstack :)20:47
xgermanbut I am cool with adding him back +1 from me20:47
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sbalukoffThanks, y'all!20:48
fnaval+1 also20:48
xgermanon another note how did I become #1 — totally unexpected :-)20:48
xgermanblogan, rm_work?20:48
johnsomnmagnezi Yeah, I don't know what we have that documented right now.  In fact, multi-controller is lightly tested in my opinion.20:48
xgermanalso we probably should run that on the ML20:48
sbalukoffxgerman: +120:48
dougwigtypically you ask in private, so the ptl can quietly poll the cores and not make a public hash of things if there are objections, btw.  :)20:49
ptoohillthat 1% got me ><, this bug is something else. My apologies nmagnezi johnsom20:49
xgermandougwig +120:49
sbalukoffdougwig: Haha! Well, you know me, eh. ;)20:49
johnsomCorrect.  Solicitation is a bit, odd20:49
dougwigsbalukoff: haha, indeed.20:49
sbalukoffWhen have I ever done anything quietly>?20:49
bloganxgerman: i've been admittedly bad at reviewing lately20:49
nmagnezijohnsom, should that even work? If I deploy two workers with a highly available db?20:49
nmagnezijohnsom, (worker is stateless, right?)20:50
dougwigi suggest we let folks think about it, and not put everyone on the spot here.  johnsom can follow-up?20:50
blogandougwig: just bc someone is above you doesn't mean thats good20:50
johnsomnmagnezi In theory yes.  We really want to get to HA-controllers.  We need to do testing20:50
johnsomdougwig +1 will follow up20:50
sbalukoffdougwig: +120:50
dougwigblogan: are you saying that because you tower over everyone?  literally.20:50
sbalukoffThanks guys!20:51
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johnsomnmagnezi Since we pull from the queue, it should all be ok.  We tried to keep an eye out for that deployment scenario.  I just can't say that we have done a lot of testing yet.20:52
johnsomLet us know how it goes if you give it a shot20:53
nmagneziI'll do my best to provide an informative feedback20:53
johnsomAny other topics for open discussion?20:53
sbalukoffnmagnezi: I think we all want HA controllers-- so yes, please let us know how it goes, eh!20:53
nmagnezisadly i'm a bit blocked by the fedora issue with creating the amp20:53
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nmagnezisbalukoff, will do :)20:54
johnsomThe next phase beyond that would be enabling job board, so flows can resume on alternate controllers.20:54
sbalukoffnmagnezi: Out of curiosity, why the need for the fedora amp? Do you work for RedHat, or have a mandate to produce one?20:54
sbalukoff(It's really just out of curiosity that I'm asking.)20:54
nmagnezisbalukoff, yes, I'm with Redhat :)20:55
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sbalukoffOk, cool!20:55
sbalukoffYay for vendor representation, eh!20:55
rm_workah yeah, ML prolly but I would +1 sbalukoff20:55
rm_work(was afk a sec)20:55
nmagnezilol20:55
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johnsomDon't be shy with putting up patches...  grin20:56
sbalukoffIndeed!20:56
johnsomOk, I think we are slowing down.20:56
sbalukoffI'd love to eventually see an amphora image that can run in like 128MB of RAM.20:56
johnsomLast call for topics....20:56
xgermansbalukoff alpine linux20:56
sbalukoffxgerman: I hear you. Other things on the table right now, though. ;)20:57
xgermanwhen i have time I will totally try that ;-)20:57
johnsomWe all have hopes for containers too....20:57
sbalukoffSweet!20:57
sbalukoffYes!20:57
sbalukoffBut even containers will benefit from a smaller RAM footprint.20:57
xgermanjohnsom we will have containers soon20:57
xgerman:-)20:57
johnsomAlright thanks folks!20:57
johnsom#endmeeting20:57
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sbalukoffThanks!20:58
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xgermano/23:58
annpHi all,23:58
SridarKHi All23:58
mickeysHi23:59
hoangcxhi23:59
xgermansc68cal ping23:59

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