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sgordon#startmeeting telcowg14:05
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  2 14:05:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:05
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sgordon#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda14:05
sgordon#topic roll call14:05
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sgordonsorry folks14:05
sgordonrunning a bit behind here today14:05
cloudonhi14:05
dronshawhey there14:06
cloudonknow the feeling...14:06
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sgordon#topic user story updates14:06
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sgordonso i mentioned last week there were some updates out of the product wg midcycle to the template14:07
sgordonbut from this weeks meeting not sure it's been decided how to apply them14:07
sgordoni think everything we had submitted is now merged incl. cloudon's edits after some initial gerrit confusion?14:07
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cloudonyup, think so14:07
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sgordonspecifically im referring to this AI from the notes:14:08
sgordonAR: Adjust workflow and repo folder structure for new process - Proposed14:08
sgordonChange: Remove Draft folder. The User Story discussion/review happens via14:08
sgordonGerrit thru comments and discussion. When there is agreement on the User14:08
sgordonStory, the user story is merged into Proposed.14:08
sgordon#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/product-wg/2016-February/000967.html14:08
sgordonshamail, are you around?14:09
sgordonah here we go14:09
sgordon#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories/commit/?id=9d753e6b6214edc89c1a854db8bd8da296f5a44414:09
sgordonthat last link appears to be the template updates14:10
sgordonunclear what the plan is with regards to already merged items14:10
sgordoni think they need to be re-proposed against proposed folder14:11
sgordoni can probably take that AI14:11
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cloudonI could probably try it and screw up gerrit again if it would help...?14:11
sgordonsure let's divide and conquer again14:12
sgordonit's good to learn anyway14:12
cloudonOK, will do.  Will try to add the vIMS one at the same time.14:12
sgordon#action sgordon to email product work group to confirm process for updating existing proposals with mid-cycle changes14:13
sgordon#action sgordon to follow this process for complex instance placement14:13
sgordon#action cloudon to follow while proposing vIMS14:13
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sgordonand i will take sec segregation as well for this?14:13
sgordonor do you want to try with it?14:13
cloudonhappy for you to take it14:14
sgordonack14:14
sgordon#action sgordon to follow this process for security segregation14:14
sgordoni also want to follow up with the product folks the process for prioritizing feeding things into newton14:15
sgordoni would like to try and break off some of the gaps to try and make some more progress on implementation14:15
sgordon#action sgordon to follow up on product work group prioritization / implementation process and report back14:17
sgordon#topic other discussion14:18
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dronshawsgordon/cloudon: new to the working group, but let me know where I may be able to assist either of you :D14:18
sgordondo folks have anything else they would like to discuss?14:18
sgordondronshaw, for sure14:18
sgordondronshaw, do you have any particular use cases that are of more interest to you?14:18
sgordonthe list currently in the product wg drafts area is here:14:19
sgordon#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/user-stories/draft14:19
dronshawnot necessarily, just trying to get a feel for the group and assist where i can14:19
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sgordonobviously only some of those are telco related as they have a broader focus14:19
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dronshawperhaps it would be best for me to review the drafts and reach out to either of you at a later time :D14:19
sgordonok np :)14:20
sgordonthanks all for your time!14:21
sgordon#endmeeting14:21
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Mar  2 14:21:05 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:21
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dronshawthanks!14:21
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Swami_hi15:00
carl_baldwinHi15:00
Swami_#startmeeting neturon_dvr15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  2 15:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Swami_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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obondarevo/15:00
Swami_carl_baldwin: hi15:00
Swami_obondarev: hi15:00
carl_baldwinSwami_: hi15:00
Swami_haleyb: ping15:00
carl_baldwinSwami_: the meeting name is incorrect15:01
haleybpong, feel asleep15:01
Swami_carl_baldwin: I might have miss stated it15:01
carl_baldwinSwami_: the logs will be lost.15:01
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Swami_do I need to end the meeting and restart it.15:01
carl_baldwinI think so15:02
Swami_#endmeeting15:02
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Mar  2 15:02:25 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:02
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Swami_sorry folks there was typo in the meeting name15:02
Swami_#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  2 15:03:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Swami_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:03
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carl_baldwinBetter.  :)15:03
Swami_we should be good to go now15:03
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obondarev\o/15:03
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Swami_haleyb: are you awake15:03
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haleybi'm awake now :)  should be as i'm a few hours ahead of you15:04
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Swami_haleyb: yep15:04
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Swami_#topic announcements15:04
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Swami_Mitaka milestone3 release this week15:05
Swami_Last week we were in the mid-cycle and made some head way on the live migration patches.15:05
Swami_We got a nova core to review the nova patch for live migration.15:06
Swami_We also addressed some of the multi-node failures with respect to a volume based live migration.15:06
Swami_That test skip substantially reduced the failures for the multinode.15:07
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Swami_Any other announcements this week15:07
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obondarevSwami_: cool15:08
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Swami_If there are no announcements we should proceed.15:08
haleybnone from me, just need to go through the wiki and clean it a bit myself15:08
obondarevSwami_: what are the fixes for volume backed live migration issue?15:09
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obondarevSwami_: was it fixed in nova?15:09
Swami_obondarev: We saw that this test was failing on all neutron, neutron-dvr and for nova as well. So we went and filed a bug and skipped this test.15:09
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Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284450/15:10
obondarevSwami_: I think a saw a couple of bugs on it before15:10
obondarevok, skipping seems a valid path for now15:10
Swami_obondarev: yes pushed that patch and it made it through.15:11
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Swami_Thanks to haleyb for the patch15:11
Swami_#topic Bugs15:12
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Swami_There are no new bugs this week.15:12
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Swami_So we are still working and reviewing the old bugs.15:12
carl_baldwinI saw one last night15:13
carl_baldwin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154931115:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1549311 in neutron "Unexpected SNAT behavior between instances with DVR+floating ip" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui)15:13
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carl_baldwinI didn't get a chance to tag it yet.15:13
Swami_carl_baldwin: yes I think this one was filed around midnight, so I might have missed it.15:14
carl_baldwinIt wasn't tagged15:14
carl_baldwinBut the author showed me it15:14
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Swami_carl_baldwin: ok fine, I will add it to the list.15:15
carl_baldwinThanks15:15
Swami_Also there was another bug that was filed by adolfo, on router interfaces seen on compute nodes even if there are no valid VM on the subnets.15:15
Swami_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/155208515:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1552085 in neutron "Router Interfaces Are Instantiated in Compute Nodes Which do not need them." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte)15:15
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Swami_The server is sending all the interfaces related to the router, even if there are no VMs on those interfaces to the agent and the agent adds it to the ovs-bridge15:16
Swami_I think adolfo has a patch for it.15:17
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Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/28701215:17
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Swami_The next in the list is the live migration bug.15:18
obondarevwait please15:19
obondarevthe bug says "The presence of the other two unused interfaces does not affect functionality"15:19
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obondarevwondering should we add more complexity to the code because of this15:19
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Swami_obondarev: we were just thinking it is simple check that we can do before sending all the interfaces and hopefully it would not be complex.15:20
obondarevok I'll leave a comment on review15:20
Swami_obondarev: thanks.15:20
obondarevyeak but it is additional db call15:20
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Swami_obondarev: agreed.15:21
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obondarevsorry, let's move on15:21
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Swami_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145607315:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1456073 in neutron "Connection to an instance with floating IP breaks during block migration when using DVR" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:21
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Swami_mriedem has included a tempest test and it seems to have some issue to validate the live migration with floatingip, so that is holding up right now.15:22
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Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286855 - here is the tempest patch that introduces the ssh when floatingip is assigned.15:23
Swami_I need to take a look at how the test is created. By looking at the logs I don't see any floatingip created in the first place with this test.15:23
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Swami_Is there any tempest experts here, to solve this problem.15:24
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haleyb<crickets>15:25
Swami_haleyb: same here15:25
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haleybi'll take a look15:26
Swami_haleyb: ok, thanks15:26
Swami_The next one in the list is15:27
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Swami_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154140615:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1541406 in neutron "IPv6 prefix delegation does not work with DVR" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ritesh Anand (ritesh-anand)15:27
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Swami_haleyb: any updates on this bug15:27
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haleybThere are two patches, both need updates, I will look at them15:28
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Swami_haleyb: ok thanks15:29
Swami_do you have those patches handy to post it here.15:29
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/277657/15:29
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haleybi thought there was another, might be mis-remembering15:29
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Swami_haleyb: thanks15:30
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Swami_The next in the list is15:31
Swami_#link  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/141455915:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1414559 in neutron "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration - VM temporarily disconnected" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:31
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obondarevI guess I need to address some comments on nova patch15:31
Swami_obondarev: are these patches seeing any movement.15:31
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Swami_obondarev: thanks15:31
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obondarevneutron patch slowly gets +1s :)15:32
Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246910/ - Nova patch15:32
Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246898/ - Neutron patch15:32
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obondarevSwami_: thanks15:32
Swami_The next one in the list is15:33
Swami_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146215415:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to ZongKai LI (lzklibj)15:33
Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/24685515:34
Swami_This patch is moving a bit slow. I think carl_baldwin and I discussed about this patch during the mid-cycle, we might have to speed up this post mitaka.15:34
carl_baldwinI'm hoping to get stephen-ma to help me with this one.  stephen-ma are you around?15:34
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carl_baldwinstephen-ma: Do you have a DVR setup we could try this patch out on?15:35
stephen-macarl_baldwin: what help do you need15:35
Swami_carl_baldwin: I also suspect that this issue has anything to do with the bug 1549311 - are they inter related.15:35
openstackbug 1549311 in neutron "Unexpected SNAT behavior between instances with DVR+floating ip" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549311 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui)15:35
stephen-macarl_baldwin: I created a two node setup yesterday.15:35
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carl_baldwinSwami_: I think there is some link between the two from what xiaohhui told me.  But, that was late last night and I haven't had time to process.15:36
carl_baldwinstephen-ma: Let's get together later today to play around with the patch.  Will you have some time this afternoon?15:37
Swami_carl_baldwin: yes that's what I suspect as well15:37
stephen-macarl_baldwin: yes I have.15:37
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Swami_The next in the list is15:38
Swami_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/144525515:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445255 in neutron "DVR FloatingIP to unbound allowed_address_pairs does not work" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:38
carl_baldwinstephen-ma: I'll ping you.15:38
Swami_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254439/ - This patch is under review15:38
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Swami_That's all for the bugs list15:39
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Swami_#topic Gate_failures15:40
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Swami_As we announced earlier we have reduced the multi-node failures substantially now.15:41
Swami_Still we have some minor issues in the gate.15:41
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Swami_There is couple of traces seen in the server side, with respect the gateway not found for the subnet.15:42
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Swami_I think we need to add a bug to this, if there is not one already filed15:43
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haleybagreed, as the other bugs have mostly been fixed15:43
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Swami_haleyb: yes.15:43
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obondarevgood news15:43
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Swami_I don't think we have anything more on the gate failures at this point.15:44
Swami_#topic Open-discussion15:44
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Swami_It would be great if we can get the tempest test for live migration get going, so that the live migration patches can land.15:45
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Swami_Also this week let us focus on the FIP and snat related issues.15:45
Swami_Anything else.15:46
haleybSwami_: the server-side patch for live migration was approved yesterday btw15:46
Swami_haleyb: yes I did see it.15:46
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Swami_That is good.15:47
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Swami_haleyb: obondarev: carl_baldwin: I am planning to cleanup the wiki. I just wanted to remove the closed-bugs, the list is becoming too big. What do you think.15:48
obondarevSwami_: ++15:48
haleyb+1 from me, i'll update the gate failure section when you're done15:48
Swami_ok, I will clean it up15:49
Swami_Thanks, that's all I had for today.15:49
Swami_Did I miss anything?15:49
Swami_If we don't have anything to cover, we can end the meeting.15:50
Swami_Thanks everyone for joining the meeting and will meet next week.15:50
Swami_until then bye.15:50
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Swami_#endmeeting15:51
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SukhdevTime for ML2 meeting16:00
rkukurahi16:00
yamahatahello16:00
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JayTsuHello16:01
Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_ml216:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  2 16:01:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:01
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_2.2C_201616:01
SukhdevIt is a very brief agenda today - so, probably be a short meeting16:01
rkukura+116:02
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Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:02
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SukhdevM3 is later this week16:02
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SukhdevAnybody has anything else to announce?16:03
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Sukhdev#topic: Modular L2 agent update16:03
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Sukhdevmost of the code is already in - I reviewed the doc patch16:04
Sukhdevhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/28234916:04
SukhdevAndreas does not seem to be here foter any other upda16:05
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Sukhdevopps hit the wrong key - meant to say he is not here for any other update16:05
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Sukhdevhave a look at his patch and provide any feedback16:06
Sukhdev#topic: Routed networks16:06
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SukhdevLooks like this was discussed during the mid-cycle - which I missed16:07
Sukhdevit has moved into implementation phase16:07
SukhdevI do not have any further update -16:07
rkukuraspec hasn’t merged, so I think feedback is still possible16:08
SukhdevI was watching it to make sure that  there is not much impact on ML216:08
rkukuracarl_baldwin uploaded a new patch on 3/1, I’m reviewing that one now16:08
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Sukhdevrkukura : yes - in fact, there is lot of feedback coming -16:08
rkukuraI’m still kind of uncomfortable changing the semantics of a neutron network to no longer be an L2 broadcast domain16:08
Sukhdevso, feel free to provide your feedback16:08
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rkukuraI can live with it being optionally an L2 broadcast domain, as long as that is clearly visible from the API16:09
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Sukhdevrkukura : you should review the patch and post the comments16:10
rkukuraSukhdev: I am and will16:10
rkukuraCurious if others here have thought about the implications of this16:11
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Sukhdevthere have been a lot of debate about it16:11
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Sukhdevin the previous mid-cycle, when it was introduced, there was quite a bit of dicussion16:12
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SukhdevAnything else on this?16:13
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Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:14
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SukhdevI did not have anything else on the agenda16:14
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SukhdevAny body wants to discuss anything today?16:15
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rkukuraHas anyone else seen any need for ML2 to support extension drivers and maybe mech driver calls on subnet pools and address scopes?16:16
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SukhdevI guess silence means either no or no opinion :-)16:17
rkukuraguess so16:17
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Sukhdevor we do not have critical mass to answer your question :-)16:18
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rkukuramy team is working on a driver that may need to track the association between address scopes and subnets, so we may be looking at adding support for this to ML216:18
Sukhdevwhat do you mean by address scope?16:19
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rkukuraits a neutron core resource, added in liberty, I think16:20
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yamamotorkukura: why do you need to track them?16:20
rkukuraby knowing that subnets are associated with the the same address scope, you know they don’t overlap and are potentially routable16:20
Sukhdevdoes it have to do with carving out of the IP address space across sub-nets?16:21
rkukurayes16:21
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rkukurasubnets can belong to subnet pools which can belong to address scopes16:21
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rkukuraanyone, just wanted to see if anyone else had thought about ML2 support for these16:22
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rkukuras/anyone/anyway/16:23
rkukurathat’s it from me16:23
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Sukhdevrkukura : so, at the time of create of sub-net, you do not specify the cidr, instead specify the address scope?16:23
rkukuraactually, the subnet pool16:24
rkukuraand the pool can be associated with an address scope16:24
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Sukhdevhmm...so these new APIs are already merged and available?16:25
rkukurayes16:25
Sukhdevso, create address scope, then sub-net pools, and then subnet16:25
rkukuraright16:25
rkukurabut the address scope attribute of subnet pool is mutable16:26
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SukhdevI see16:26
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yamamotorkukura: i guess a callback for SUBNETPOOL_ADDRESS_SCOPE is enough for many cases16:26
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rkukuraright, although my preference would be to treat subnet pools and address scopes just like the other resources in ML216:27
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yamamotorkukura: i tend to agree but many folks seem to like callbacks recently.16:29
rkukurathe callbacks are not really usable without significant work16:29
rkukurathere are no callbacks for most resources, and no way to really see what is changed on updates16:29
rkukuraright now, they are just special cased when needed, rather than uniformily implemented16:30
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SukhdevI guess the idea is to get the state of resource by query the DB16:31
Sukhdevhowever, the question is who updates the DB, if multiple entities are trigged on callbak16:32
rkukuralets wrap this up for today16:33
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Sukhdev+116:33
yamamotosure16:33
Sukhdevso, if nothing else on this, I good to call it a day16:33
rkukuraunless there are other topics anyone wants to discuss16:34
yamamotonothing from me.16:34
SukhdevOK - cool - we are done then16:34
SukhdevThanks16:34
yamamotothank you!16:34
rkukurathanks Sukhdev!16:34
Sukhdevbye16:34
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:34
rkukurabye16:34
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timsim#startmeeting Designate17:07
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  2 17:07:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:07
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:07
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timsimHello! Who's here?17:07
rsyedo/17:07
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elarsono/17:08
pglasso/17:08
venkato/17:08
Kiallkinda, stuck on a call.. expect little more than a drive by comment or two from me ;)17:08
timsimping ekarlso- federico317:08
Kiallekarlso is on paternity leave :)17:09
timsimawww17:09
timsimbabies17:09
elarsonah!17:09
elarsoncool17:09
timsim#topic Announcements17:09
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timsimBesides ekarlso-'s fatherhood, any other announcements?17:09
timsimProbably not17:10
timsim#topic Action Items from last week17:10
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timsimkiall to BP 0022fd8 Ensure ZoneManager emits valid objects17:10
timsimmugsie bp 24c957b17:10
timsimmugsie to look at bug/154643717:10
timsim#action mugsie to look at bug/154643717:10
federico3hi17:10
timsimp sure that didn't happen17:11
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elarsontimsim: yeah no backports it seems17:11
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timsimemits objects went to liberty.17:11
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timsimI'll just reaction them for next week :P17:11
elarson:coolio:17:12
timsimfederico3 bp b79cb7b Update Bind 9 backend and other documentation17:12
timsimThat's up right federico3 ?17:12
timsimOr merged17:12
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timsim#action mugsie sent core nominiation to the -ml17:12
timsimI didn't see that come by ^17:12
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KiallI think he forgot17:12
Kiallbut only your vote was missing tim.. so can just wrap it up with your vote right now ;)17:13
federico3that should be out17:13
federico3I'll chase it17:13
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timsimKiall: Alright, I'll hit that on the topic.17:13
timsimAlright.17:13
timsim#action mugsie bp 24c957b17:13
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timsimMoving on17:13
timsim#topic Bug Triage17:14
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/154996017:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1549960 in Designate "Add memcached documentation" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Federico Ceratto (federico-ceratto)17:14
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timsimm3 is pretty much right now17:14
timsimI guess I'll assign it there anyway17:15
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timsimm - m3 unless anyone objects17:15
elarsonseems doable (not knowing the end of m3 or federico3's work load ;) )17:15
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/155183617:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1551836 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "CORS middleware's latent configuration options need to change" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Michael (krotscheck)17:16
federico3m3 should do17:16
timsimI think I'm just going to let that one mellow for a bit17:16
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/155053217:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550532 in python-designateclient "V2 zone import/export are not implemented" [Undecided,New]17:16
krotscheckOkies17:16
timsimThis seems like a pretty big deal ^ Kiall17:17
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Kialltimsim: whoops, we should do that one soon17:17
timsimIt looks like the work was started but not finished, I'm going Critical17:17
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* elarson wonders if rsyed might be able to do it?17:17
Kiallclient can ship on it's own schedule, we should do a full review of APIs to CLIs17:17
rsyedelarson i was wondering the same thing17:17
* rsyed was poking around17:18
timsimCongrats rsyed it's all yours17:18
rsyedyay17:18
elarsonbadoosh!!!!17:18
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timsimThat's it17:19
timsim#topic Stable Backport Triage17:19
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* timsim is trying to get the things17:19
KiallStill on that call, could you gather the list real quick timsim?17:19
Kiallthanks17:19
timsimhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/489014/17:20
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timsimTake a look and nominate any BPs17:20
timsimd5d0706 Improve error handling for TCP connections17:20
timsimobvi17:20
timsimb89a05e Ensure the zone records quota is enforced17:20
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rsyedi believe federico3 took care of d5d0706 Improve error handling for TCP connections17:21
rsyedhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/286555/17:21
* elarson was just goign to mention that one17:21
Kiall++ on both of those, I BP'd the TCP oneto L and K - pending reviews17:21
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rsyedhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/286557/17:21
elarsonthose are the only two that seem necessary IMO17:22
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federico3the CRs are still not merged17:22
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timsimcool. I'm sure we'll get them in very soon.17:22
timsimAnyone want to volunteer for b89a05e Ensure the zone records quota is enforced17:22
elarson+117:22
timsimVolunteer or you'll be voluntold17:22
timsimThanks elarson17:23
timsim#action elarson to bp b89a05e Ensure the zone records quota is enforced17:23
timsim#topic Core Membership17:23
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timsimOk, I was the only one absent last week to vote for elarson's coreness.17:23
timsimObviously I +117:24
elarsonthanks timsim :)17:24
timsimI don't know who actually has the powers to make that happen, but I'm sure we'll get it done soon. It might just be mugsie17:24
timsim#action mugsie / someone to give elarson +2 powers17:24
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timsim# topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring)17:25
timsim#topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring)17:25
mlavalletimsim: hi17:25
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timsimhi mlavalle :)17:25
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mlavalletimsim: last week we merged the dns integration support for the Neutron client: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282588/17:25
mlavalleI have continued working in the DNS integration chapter to the Networking Guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280957/17:26
timsimCool!17:26
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mlavalleI am getting reviews and I think we will merge it soon. so, all in all, in good shape17:27
mlavallethat is where we stand this week17:27
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timsimGood stuff. Thanks mlavalle17:27
mlavalle:-)17:27
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timsimI think the other bits on the agenda have been discussed already...17:27
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:28
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timsimAnyone have anything they'd like to discuss?17:28
elarsonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/283855/ would be helpful17:28
elarsonto review17:28
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elarsonit would make testing ALIAS changes easier to rebase17:28
elarsonfwiw17:28
timsimCool, will do.17:29
federico3also,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/143621017:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1436210 in Designate "Multiple serial update notifications are not buffered " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Federico Ceratto (federico-ceratto)17:29
KiallI'll have a look tomorrow too..17:29
rsyedi haven't looked through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283784/ yet but need to dig into it!17:29
timsimI'd love it if some more folks reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283784/ (WIP Worker Model)17:29
elarsonyeah, timsim and I had a pretty epic thread ;)17:30
timsimSome of the rax folks have gone around on it a bit, would love more eyes.17:30
timsimYep :)17:30
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timsimIt's not as big as it looks, it's really only 500-600 lines.17:30
timsimAnything else?17:31
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timsimGoing once17:32
timsimtwice17:32
timsim#endmeeting17:32
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Mar  2 17:32:42 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:32
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-02-17.07.html17:32
timsimThanks all :)17:32
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-02-17.07.txt17:32
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elarson!m timsim17:32
openstackelarson: Error: "m" is not a valid command.17:32
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amrith#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar  2 18:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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atomic77o18:00
amrith./18:01
amrithlets give folks a couple of minutes to trickle in18:01
johnmaHello18:01
mvandijk./18:01
toskyhi18:01
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amrithhi atomic77 johnma mvandijk tosky18:03
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dougshelley66o/18:04
tellesnobregao/18:04
schango/18:04
amrithhello dougshelley66 tellesnobrega schang18:04
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amrithlet's get going ...18:05
amrith#topic Trove pulse update18:05
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amrith#link      http://bit.ly/1VQyg0018:05
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amriththanks to dougshelley66 for getting this updated18:05
dougshelley66np, i'm an excel hack from way back18:05
amrithwe've seen a couple fewer reviews but also not many new patches as we head towards m-318:06
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amrithon the whole, we have a number of features that we should be trying to get merged in the next couple of days18:06
amrithso let's see if we can hit that target.18:06
amrithotherwise, not much unexpected on this list18:06
vgnbkro/18:07
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pmackinno/18:07
amrithany other thoughts on the review in the past couple of weeks, we didn't have an updated sheet last week.18:07
amrithhi vgnbkr pmackinn18:07
amrith#topic Announcements18:07
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amrith#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html18:08
amrithI should really update the agenda18:08
amrithI keep getting the wrong link18:08
amrithwe are almost at R-518:09
amriththe Mitaka-3 milestone18:09
amriththis is the feature freeze date18:09
amrithall client libraries are to be frozen by March 4th18:09
amrithLooking at our current list of reviews18:10
amrithI see some that are for features18:10
amrithand some that are for libraries that we need to get merged18:10
dougshelley66yes18:11
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amrithDoes anyone have a merge for trove client that MUST get merged for Mitaka?18:11
amrithpeterstac, what about https://review.openstack.org/28328318:11
amriththat's the only client change that I can see a question about18:11
amrithwe have several features that we need to get reviewed18:12
amrithCouchDB B&$18:12
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amrithB&R18:12
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amrithCouchDB Configuration Groups18:12
amrithMariaDB Clustering18:12
amrithDB2 B&R18:12
dougshelley66Cassandra clustering18:12
dougshelley66there are 2 vertica featuers18:13
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johnmado these features need to be merged by the 4th as well?18:13
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amriththat is the preferred route18:13
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dougshelley66otherwise we need feature freeze exceptions18:13
dougshelley66for each18:13
amrithfor those that are not merged by 4th, I need to send out requests for FFE18:13
amrithone for each FFE18:13
amrithso, that's one of the later items on the agenda18:14
amrithbt we may as well get there18:14
amrithwhat is the list of things that we'll need FFE's for.18:14
johnmaok, sounds good.18:14
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amrithI don't know what the formal process is but in years past, SlickNik or hub_cap would have sent out the FFE email.18:14
amrithSo, I'll work with cp16net and make sure that the email goes out18:15
amrithbut the current situation is that we will need FFE's for all of these.18:15
dougshelley66any chance we can get some of them merged to cut down the red-tape?18:15
amrithdougshelley66, did module stuff from peterstac get merged?18:15
amrithYes, I would like to get them done before 4th18:15
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dougshelley66amrith just one of the client pieces18:15
amrithcould everyone please focus review effort on these chnanges.18:15
johnmaSo Amrith, I did one last year and the person working on the feature needs to request for FFE18:15
amrithok johnma thanks18:16
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amrithso johnma ... We need a review for 28452618:16
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/28452618:16
atomic77The two pgsql features as well18:16
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peterstacamrith, no, the module client stuff hasn't merged yet18:16
amrithit is the client side of the module management stuff18:16
amriththe server side has merged18:16
amrithand it would be good to get this merged18:16
amrithsorry18:17
amrithother way around18:17
amriththis is the server side18:17
dougshelley66peterstac one of the module mgmt client patches merged, right?18:17
amriththe client merged.18:17
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peterstacamrith, sorry, that's correct, but there is another part that's still forthcoming18:17
amrithyes, one of the module management patches merged.18:17
amrithpeterstac, please get it up for review18:17
peterstac(by correct I mean that the troveclient stuff has merged)18:17
amrithit'll be hard to make the case for an FFE when the patch isn't in review.18:17
peterstacamrith, yes, I'm hoping to have that today or early tomorrow18:18
amrithjohnma, will you take care of requesting FFE's for your DB2 and CouchDB changes?18:18
johnmaok Amrith, I will look into these. So atomic77 can you send me the links for the ones you want reviewed as well18:18
johnmafor CouchDB Backup & restore, I put out another patch to fix the user backup. So both user and db backup's work now. just need some reviews. I added a new couchdb library for the integration tests and had to add that to the global-requirements. That's why Jenkins is showing -1. I have a +2 on that from dims but waiting for it to be approved.18:18
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johnmafor the remaining ones on our side that needs FFE, I will handle that18:19
atomic77amrith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259167/  - pgsql inc B&R18:19
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johnmaI am hoping the Couchdb backup restore should go in without much problem before the FF date. I will see if I can get the requirements change approved18:19
amriththanks johnma18:20
atomic77but it's stuck in a merge conflict that i haven't been able to figure out (due to the in-flight dependencies i had to commit on top of)18:20
amrithin terms of priority, cassandra, mariaDB and vertica may be ahead of the list than the pgsql18:20
amrithgiven that pgsql is in merge conflict.18:21
amrithso, let's try and get cassandra, mariaDB and vertica merged and get FFE's for the minimal stuff (pgsql)18:21
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amrithand peterstac will push up the last of the module management changes18:22
amrithwhich we can try to merge or FFE if not.18:22
amrithdoes that sound like a plan?18:22
dougshelley66sounds good18:22
vgnbkrMariaDB Clustering is patiently waiting for a second +2...18:22
amrithvgnbkr, I know ...18:22
johnmawill look at it vgnbkr18:22
amrithanyone else have features that must go in before FFE?18:23
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amrithI think I've gone through the list.18:23
amrithbut would like to make sure I haven't missed something18:23
peterstacvgnbkr, johnma: I've tested the MariaDB cluster stuff (worked fine) - just haven't had the time to check the code ...18:23
johnmathats great peterstac, i will go through the code18:24
amrithok, that's all we have on that subject.18:24
johnmaI have been having trouble with my env building images, so if testing is good, I can look at the code18:24
amrithjohnma, we can catch up on #openstack-trove on the issue with images18:24
amrithI had some email exchanges with someone on the ML18:25
johnmasure18:25
amrithand will be updating the doc on making images18:25
amriththat talks about setting a bunch of env variables18:25
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amrithbut doesn't tell you what to set them to18:25
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amrithanyway, on the subject of FFE, mitaka-3 deadline, ... anything else?18:25
amrithgoing once18:25
johnmasound good, thanks Amrith18:26
amrithgoing once more18:26
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amrith#topic Health check on outstanding blueprints and features for Mitaka18:26
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amrith#link  https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/mitaka-318:26
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amrithdougshelley66, and I updated many of the bp's yesterday so they should reflect the current status of the various projects.18:27
amrithif you look below, there is also a list of bugs that are targeted for m-318:27
amrithif you have a bug assigned to you, please take a look at it18:27
amrithif you can get it fixed, that's ideal18:27
amrithif not, we still have time18:28
dougshelley66amrith we can fix bugs after FF, right?18:28
amrithM-3 is NOT the deadline for bug fixes18:28
dougshelley66right18:28
amrithbug fixes can be committeed all the way through18:28
amrithbut these bugs were targeted at M-3 earlier18:28
amrithBut, we don't have a lot more time18:28
amrithlike 10 days18:28
amrithin theory, you should have all bugs done by RC1 date.18:28
amrithin practice, sometime before April 4 (R0)18:29
amrithso something between 10 and 28 days.18:29
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amrithThat's all I have on that topic. anyone have anything else on it ...18:29
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amrith#topic Open Discussion18:30
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amrithanybody have any other topics or subjects they'd like to discuss.18:30
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* pmackinn stumps for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284162/2 it's fedora...what could go wrong?18:30
atomic77amrith sorry can i just get clarification - when you say pgsql minimal stuff18:30
atomic77you don't mean the features i listed right - we're going to push those to n-release?18:31
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johnmaonce the FFE sets in, when is the next deadline to get the features in (assuming they are accepted for FFE)18:31
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amrithatomic77, I was meaning that we should try and get as many things as possible merged before the deadline18:31
peterstacpmackinn, I'll take a look18:31
amrithand ask for FFE's for as few things as possible18:31
amrith"minimal stuff" was not very clear.18:31
pmackinnpeterstac, you're a prince18:31
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amrithI meant "as few FFE's as possible, get them merged before deadline"18:32
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amrithpmackinn, I will take a look18:32
pmackinnamrith, ty18:32
amrithSo I can test this, may I have a fedora (that is a RedHat, right?)18:32
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* pmackinn facepalms18:32
pmackinno/ SlickNik18:33
amrithother topics for open discussion18:33
SlickNiko/ sorry arriving late18:33
* amrith mumbles ... all it takes is pmackinn to say SlickNik and he shows up, what about the times I said SlickNik?18:34
amrithhi SlickNik18:34
vgnbkrYou have to say it 3 times.18:34
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SlickNikhi hi18:35
* amrith rubs the lamp and says SlickNik three times18:35
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pmackinnFFE discussion earlier SlickNik18:35
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amrithother subjects for Open Discussion18:35
amrithwell, since SlickNik is here, ...18:35
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pmackinnamrith, how do you characterize m-3 bugs? High *must* go in?18:37
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amrithpmackinn, I didn't mark those18:37
SlickNikSo the process that teams have followed in the past has been that the person who's requesting the FFE sends a mail out to the -dev mailing list.18:37
amrithIt is a combination of some that I felt should go in, and maybe some triaging that SlickNik and cp16net did18:38
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pmackinnamrith, ack, was wondering generally how those are interpreted18:38
amrithFYI all, I believe that our current list of reviews for m-3 is https://review.openstack.org/#/q/is:watched+is:open+starredby:amrith18:38
SlickNikAnd then the PTL (after discussion with the release team) can grant FFEs as appropriate.18:38
amriththanks SlickNik, johnma indicated that she had sent email in a previous cycle.18:39
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amrithand to that list, add the change set that peterstac will submit18:40
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amriththat's all I had for the meeting18:40
johnmathats a pretty clean list amrith :).18:40
amrithunless someone else has something else to add, I think we can call this a wrap18:40
SlickNikamrith ++ to that list18:40
amrithand if you find something missing on the list, please let me know and I'll star it18:40
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johnmathat list is empty18:41
amrithjohnma, do you mean that the URL I sent is empty?18:41
pmackinnindeed18:41
amrithhuh18:41
johnmayes,18:41
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amrithhow about this18:42
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:amrith18:42
SlickNikjohnma: you may need to sign in18:42
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johnmavery realistic now :)18:42
amrithoh, yes18:42
amrithhave to login18:42
johnmaworks now18:42
amrithok, going once ...18:43
dougshelley66amrith there are 3 other patch sets for module mgmt18:43
dougshelley66in review18:43
amrithdougshelley66, what are they?18:43
dougshelley66or it might be 218:43
dougshelley66one sec18:43
dougshelley66https://review.openstack.org/28452618:43
amrithadded that just now18:44
dougshelley66sorry it is just one ATM18:44
peterstacamrith, you were asking earlier about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283283/18:44
amrithis that m-3 as well peterstac18:44
amrithI've starred it18:45
peterstacthat's a troveclient change that should probably make it in as well (guestlog swift client fix)18:45
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amrithOK, list updated18:45
peterstacyeah, I think it should be18:45
amrithOK all: this is the review focus list https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:amrith18:45
peterstac(I forgot to put in a bug for it, my bad)18:45
amrithas things come up, I'll update this list18:45
amrithso if we can use that list to drive reviews for now18:45
amrithI think we'll make forward progress quickly18:45
amrithok, if you find other shortcomings with the list, please IRC me18:47
amrith#openstack-trove or PM18:47
amrithI'll keep the list up to date18:47
amriththat's all we've got18:47
amrithok to wrap up this meeting?18:47
amrithgoing once ...18:47
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amrithgoing once more18:48
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amriththanks folks18:48
amrith#endmeeting18:48
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
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johnsomHi folks20:00
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sbalukoffGreetings, y'all!20:00
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johnsom#topic Announcements20:00
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johnsomM3 - feature freeze has come and gone20:01
TrevorVo/20:01
johnsomWe got a bunch of stuff in, so good job everyone20:01
johnsomAny other announcements folks have?20:01
xgermanI think it’s still not frozen?20:01
bloganhi20:01
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johnsomIt's frozen.  All feature patches have received -2 already20:02
dougwigplease ping me if you need an FFE, but if it's not in gerrit and in reasonable shape, it's likely newton bound.20:02
potholeWe imposed our own freeze20:02
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johnsom#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html20:02
TrevorVdougwig I should consider single-create in neutron "newton-bound" right?20:02
sbalukoffYeah-- I think we were just sticking to the schedule20:03
TrevorVneutron lbaas***20:03
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johnsomRC1 is targeted for March 14th20:03
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dougwigis it feature complete and just needs final tweaks, or is it a wip?  if the latter, yep, newton.20:03
johnsomWell, neutron-lbaas is on the neutron schedule and since Octavia is the reference implementation we need to follow closely too20:04
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johnsomSo, we really want to get our bugs fixed by RC1 March 14th20:04
johnsom#topic20:05
johnsomMitaka blueprints/rfes/m-3 bugs for neutron-lbaas and octavia20:05
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johnsomSpeaking of bugs:20:05
johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=target-mitaka20:05
sbalukoffHeh!20:05
sbalukoffNice!20:05
dougwigjohnsom: i've got something here today20:06
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johnsomThese are the bugs I think we should have fixed for Mitaka.  This includes bugs opened for minor issues (missing unit tests) in recent patches20:06
sbalukoffI think my two session_persistence bugs last night will go a long way to fixing the intermittent session_persistence scenario test failure....20:06
sbalukoffBut...20:06
sbalukoffI guess those are all broken now after the glace image ID patch merged?20:06
johnsomsbalukoff Excellent20:06
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johnsomsbalukoff Ping me the details on those after the meeting.20:06
sbalukoffI have something to discuss regarding those patches as well, but that can wait until open discussion.20:07
sbalukoffjohnsom: Will do!20:07
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johnsomSo, if you guys have spare cycles, please grab a bug.20:07
johnsomdougwig - Floor is yours20:07
sbalukoffAnd hopefully the critical / major bugs first!20:07
dougwig#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286413/20:07
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dougwigarmax put up that review for status and ffe's, and it has some lbaas items. please update your stuff there, or send me the info.20:08
dougwigi'll hunt folks down that haven't answered later today.  so go post a review on there.  :)20:08
dougwigjohnsom: done20:08
johnsomThanks for the heads up.20:08
johnsomAny other bug related items?20:09
johnsomI have gone through and closed out bugs that were fixed before the "Fix Release" change.  You may have seen updates on old bugs.20:09
johnsom#topic20:10
johnsomDELETION CATHARSIS (dougwig)20:10
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sbalukoffHaha!20:10
dougwiglet's start with v1.20:10
dougwig#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty20:10
johnsomOpps,20:10
sbalukoffBurn it with fire.20:10
dougwigdeprecated here.20:10
johnsom#topic DELETION CATHARSIS20:10
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bloganbyebye20:10
dougwigi think this should merge as soon as newton opens: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286381/20:10
sbalukoff+120:11
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* mhayden likes the idea20:11
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blogandougwig: will the jobs need to be removed first?20:11
dougwigi think this one is fairly straight-forward execution of the deprecation policy.20:11
dougwigblogan: yes.20:11
sbalukoffJust as soooon as Newton opens...20:12
johnsomdougwig Do you want to have a vote?20:12
dougwigxgerman: did hp by any chance make their v1/v2 migration script public?  that's the only real missing piece, though i don't think it stops the removal.20:12
sbalukoffLike, within minutes.20:12
xgermanno20:12
dougwigjohnsom: i don't think this one is controversial.20:12
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blogan#startvote20:13
openstackOnly the meeting chair may start a vote.20:13
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sbalukoffHaha20:13
dougwigok, then let's move on to the v2 agent driver.20:13
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dougwigas you can see here:20:13
dougwig#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286332/20:13
dougwigit's rotted.20:13
dougwiglook at the namespace-nv job20:13
xgermanHP will fix it20:14
bloganfirst, does anyone know of people running lbaas v1 agent?20:14
dougwigso i'm thinking this should also go in as soon as newton opens:20:14
dougwig#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286380/20:14
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dougwigand hp has volunteered to fix the rot for M.20:14
xgermanvolunteered is  a strong word20:14
bloganvoluntold is weaker?20:14
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johnsomYeah, falls under voluntold20:14
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dougwigi'm not hearing any screaming here either.  i expected a little bikeshedding, and y'all are letting me down.  i had popcorn ready and everything.20:15
sbalukoffWoo-hoo!20:15
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sbalukoffdougwig: Reduce that amount of crufty, mostly redundant code we have to maintain? Geez, twist our arms!20:16
johnsomJust to be clear, that would mean octavia and the vendor drivers are the only options for v220:16
johnsomright?20:16
dougwigand the logging-noop driver.20:16
sbalukoffjohnsom: That is my understanding.20:16
xgermanwell, there always was blogan who wanted to retain the agent driver20:16
johnsomYeah, well20:16
bloganso my argument against removing the v2 agent is it makes anyone running the v1 agent's upgrade path a lot harder20:16
bloganv1 agent to v2 agent is much easier than v1 agent to v2 octavia20:17
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sbalukoffblogan: You think we should wait another cycle?20:17
dougwigdon't you have to script an object transfer, which makes which driver irrelevant?20:17
bloganBUT, if no one knows of anyone who is actually using v1 agent in production, i dont care20:17
johnsomThis one seems like a bigger deal for folks, as I suspect anyone with LBaaSv2 is running that driver20:17
xgermanwell, another option is to put it into it’s own repo and make it apply for OpenStack open tent?20:17
blogansbalukoff: i think it would be nice to send out a thread in the ML and wait a bit to see if anyone bites and/or complains20:17
dougwigor another repo and don't apply for the tent.20:17
xgermanlike a vendor driver20:18
blogandougwig: well with octavia you also need to have a bit mroe infrastructure for the VMs it'll spin up, so its still a bit more planning20:18
johnsomI agree, we should advertise this one on the ML20:18
bloganwhereas with v1 you'd just reuse all that20:18
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dougwigok, i'll post this one on the ML (and cross-post on ops)20:18
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johnsomExcellent, thanks dougwig20:19
sbalukoff*shrug* fine by me. But it's not the reference, so in your ML thread make sure that you make it clear that anyone who wants to keep it is signing up to maintain it.20:19
dougwigi'm pretty firmly in the delete or separate-repo camp, myself.  i'm not opposed to it sticking around, but i don't want to maintain it.20:19
johnsomIn the mean time, people can vote on the patch itself20:19
sbalukoffdougwig: +120:19
johnsomdougwig +120:19
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dougwigok, i think we have enough of a plan that we can move on.20:20
johnsomOk, well that was short20:20
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports20:20
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johnsomHow are things going (bug fixes I assume)?20:20
sbalukoffGreat! Need more reviews. :)20:20
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johnsomFeel free to put up some links20:21
sbalukoffI think I have 4 or 5 bugfixes in the queue, most of which should be ready to merge...20:21
sbalukoffOk, hang on...20:21
bana_k#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286365/20:21
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28516020:21
bloganscenario job is still being a jerk20:21
johnsombana_k cool!  Looking forward to that20:21
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sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28519220:21
bana_k:)20:22
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28641020:22
madhu_ak#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284946/20:22
TrevorVSince Rax has a dependency for single-create on neutron lbaas at this point, I'll be mainly focused on that, but the bugs are next on my priority list.  They'll be done before the bug-freeze though20:22
madhu_ak#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284875/20:22
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28578320:22
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28514320:22
dougwiga wall of review links is a little dense to parse.  maybe an etherpad of priority reviews?  (with bugs and FFE's listed first)20:22
madhu_ak#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/20:22
johnsomI guess I should mention, if you have an open bug against an M3 patch, and you don't get it fixed, I will revert your original patch.20:23
sbalukoffThis might need more work following a discussion:20:23
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28711820:23
johnsomWell, that would be a pain, but I will hunt you down20:23
sbalukoffAlso this:20:23
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28700420:23
sbalukoffAnd finally:20:23
sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/28637220:23
johnsomUnless I'm having a bad day, then it is revert20:23
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Mitaka_LBaaS_priority_reviews20:24
johnsomI will fill this in after the meeting20:24
sbalukoffOk.20:24
dougwigcool20:24
johnsomOk then, moving on20:25
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:25
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sbalukoffOk!20:25
sbalukoffso question on the sesssion_persistence update fix:20:25
sbalukoffThe neutron-lbaas CLI presently has no way to clear the session_persistence on a pool once it is set.20:26
sbalukoffSo, in my patch, I added a way, but it involves introducing a new session_persistence "NONE" type...20:26
sbalukoffWhich is ugly, but works around the CLI problem.20:26
sbalukoffReedip has a CLI update in the works which fixes this as well...20:26
sbalukoffBut that fix also overhauls much of the CLI update stuff (which really needed it anyway),20:27
sbalukoffAnd as such, I'm not sure whether it's going to get in for Mitaka.20:27
sbalukoffThe problem with my workaround is that we'd have to support a session_persistence NONE type going forward...20:27
johnsomYeah, the CLI for session persistence is ugly20:27
sbalukoffWhich I really dislike.20:27
sbalukoffSo the question is:20:27
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sbalukoffDo I not introduce the work-around, and just leave things broken for the CLI in Mitaka...20:28
sbalukoffOr do I introduce the work-around, and then we support session_persistence NONE type going forward indefinitely?20:28
sbalukoffI personally agree with blogan on this that I would really rather not introduce the work-around.20:29
sbalukoffAlso worth noting:20:29
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sbalukoffsession_persistence has hardly worked at all before... so leaving the CLI broken in Mitaka wouldn't be a new experience for people, IMO.20:29
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johnsomI guess there is a workaround in recreating the pool if you want to disable SP20:30
johnsomugly, but possible20:30
sbalukoffYes... if you set session_perstence, a "work around" is to blow away your pool configuration and start over if you need to clear it.20:31
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sbalukoffNot that changing it from one type to another works fine.20:31
sbalukoffBut the CLI just doesn't jive with clearing it entirely right now.20:31
johnsomIt does work20:31
sbalukoffEr..20:31
sbalukoffYes, typo:  "Note that changing..."20:31
bloganantoher workaround is just providing a curl statement :)20:32
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sbalukoffblogan: True.20:32
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sbalukoffblogan: But... really, people would probably just blow away the pool and re-create it.20:32
johnsomAh, so via neutron-lbaas API you can disable it?  It's just a CLI issue?20:32
blogansbalukoff: probably, but with shared pools i could see that being a problem for some20:32
sbalukoffOk, so I'm hearing: Don't introduce new "NONE" session persistence type, and if people complain we tell them about the nasty work-arounds for Mitaka.20:33
bloganjohnsom: the client has issues with setting soemthign to null20:33
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bloganjson null20:33
sbalukoffjohnsom: Yes, this is only a CLI issue.20:33
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sbalukoffAnd again, Reedip has a patch to fix it in the works, and it's pretty-much complete... but overhauls everything about lbaas updates (which needed to be done)20:33
sbalukoffSo, I'm not sure whether to call that a bug or a feature.20:34
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blogansbalukoff: i haven't looked at it, but if its consistent with other calls that need to basically remove an attribute by setting null then thats the right way to go20:34
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bloganthe fix could go in and then backport20:34
bloganif its after m-320:34
sbalukoffblogan: Yes, from what I can tell it is.20:34
johnsomI'm in favor of fixing the CLI and if it doesn't make it, put a release note in about the workarounds (API or delete/recreate)20:35
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sbalukoffjohnsom: Ok!20:35
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sbalukoffI'm not hearing any voices in favor of introducing the work-around... so out it goes!20:36
neelashahjohnsom: fyi - Heat support for LbaaS v2 is in M3, functional tests are remaining and being worked on as part of FFE for M.20:36
sbalukoffThanks!20:36
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johnsomneelashah Excellent!20:36
sbalukoffneelashah: awesome!20:36
johnsomThank you for the work on that!20:36
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neelashahthanks markvan and jonesbr as well….20:37
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sbalukoffYes, thanks!20:37
johnsomOk, any other open discussion items?20:38
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johnsomOther than please work on mitaka bugs!20:38
sbalukoffThanks, y'all!20:38
ajmillerI'll just put in a plug for the dashboard20:38
ajmillerIts pretty complete now, try it out!20:39
johnsomCool20:39
sbalukoffRad!20:39
neelashahajmiller +120:39
xgerman+120:39
xgermannow if I can figure out how to fill out that new form so cascading_Delete can stay...20:39
johnsomOk, sounds like we are done20:40
johnsom#endmeeting20:40
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