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| madhu_ak | hi | 00:11 |
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| SridarK | mickeys: perhaps when u are freed up a bit - we can sync more on this too | 00:12 |
| SridarK | madhu_ak: hi | 00:12 |
| madhu_ak | xgerman is out as he is sick today | 00:12 |
| SridarK | light meeting | 00:12 |
| pleia2 | SridarK: there's the bot | 00:12 |
| mickeys | On the iptables side, the plan is to work through security groups / fwaas co-existence issues first, then go back to the iptables_fwaas driver that was started in San Antonio | 00:12 |
| SridarK | pleia2: thx | 00:12 |
| SridarK | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 00:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 00:12:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 00:12 |
| SridarK | ok for the record - with the bot not on the channel - we will have an more abridged record of what is a light mtg today already | 00:13 |
| SridarK | mickeys: sounds good - yes i think we want to flush out the issues on coexistence | 00:13 |
| SridarK | we can make a first pass on the L3 stuff which should be easier to make sure the plumbing across works | 00:14 |
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| SridarK | other things to discuss ? | 00:15 |
| SridarK | madhu_ak: thx - i heard too that xgerman: may not make it | 00:15 |
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| SridarK | madhu_ak: hoangcx: any thing u folks want to bring up ? | 00:16 |
| mickeys | The iptables_firewall init pollution from address scopes has a proposed fix, but the bug is marked low priority and the comments indicate that it might not make Mitaka: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288828/ | 00:16 |
| hoangcx | registration prices for Austin summit increase on March - 11 | 00:16 |
| madhu_ak | yeah, I got called in internal stuffs, hence not much progress to share.. | 00:16 |
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| SridarK | mickeys: yes i added my self to the bug and saw that | 00:17 |
| mickeys | I wonder if others should review and whether it is worth making a push for Mitaka? It does not seem dangerous to me, just moving code around | 00:17 |
| SridarK | Mitaka may be tricky given the time | 00:17 |
| SridarK | at least we want to make sure that we get it prioritized early enough for N | 00:17 |
| mickeys | I see much scarier things going in, but those are features ... | 00:17 |
| SridarK | :-) | 00:17 |
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| madhu_ak | as jwarendt is not here, he is working on suporting pylint in fwaas tree | 00:18 |
| madhu_ak | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279817/ | 00:18 |
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| SridarK | madhu_ak: thx | 00:19 |
| madhu_ak | however, needs review for backporting patches posted by jwarendt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285539/ | 00:19 |
| madhu_ak | need to poke stable team for the review, maybe mestery dougwig ^^ | 00:20 |
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| SridarK | yes agreed | 00:20 |
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| SridarK | madhu_ak: added | 00:21 |
| madhu_ak | thanks SridarK | 00:22 |
| SridarK | i think we have time for the stable releases | 00:22 |
| SridarK | i didnt have much else to add | 00:23 |
| * dougwig feels a strange jabbing sensation. | 00:23 | |
| * dougwig shrugs it off, moves on. | 00:24 | |
| madhu_ak | well, I believe there is, unless new features merges in master | 00:24 |
| SridarK | dougwig: :-) when u have some time - added u for review on stable/liberty - pls take a look | 00:24 |
| SridarK | when u can | 00:24 |
| hoangcx | SridarK: from my team, we are planning to support additional features (logging) to FWaaS after initial V2 has been release in N cycle | 00:26 |
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| SridarK | hoangcx: thats good, i know sc68cal: had some concerns, will be good to discuss at the summit to make sure things are clarified | 00:27 |
| hoangcx | Yes. Looking forward to see you in Austin to discuss in detail | 00:27 |
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| SridarK | ok - i think if nothing else to discuss - we can end | 00:28 |
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| SridarK | ok thx all | 00:29 |
| SridarK | bye | 00:29 |
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| SridarK | #endmeeting | 00:29 |
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| hoangcx | Bye | 00:29 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 00:29:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-03-10-00.12.html | 00:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-03-10-00.12.txt | 00:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-03-10-00.12.log.html | 00:30 |
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| dirk | toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka: ping | 12:59 |
| toabctl | hi | 12:59 |
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| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 13:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:01 |
| toabctl | hi | 13:01 |
| dirk | #topic https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
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| dirk | argh | 13:01 |
| toabctl | :) | 13:01 |
| dirk | #topic collect topics | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "collect topics (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
| dirk | everyone, please add your agenda item to | 13:02 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:02 |
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| IgorYozhikov | o/ | 13:04 |
| dirk | #topic requirements version handling - see proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290330/, update absent | override old | 13:05 |
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| dirk | toabctl: thats a topic from you? | 13:06 |
| * dirk doesn't know what 'update absent | override old' means | 13:07 | |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, this is my additions | 13:07 |
| toabctl | the first part is from me. | 13:07 |
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| toabctl | I implemented a prototype to use requirements from a single file instead of adding all requirements to the spec.j2 files | 13:08 |
| IgorYozhikov | I suggesting to add some flexibility there to make tool able to update old versions according to updated requirements | 13:08 |
| toabctl | so basically a {{ py2pkg('oslo.config') }} will automatically add the version if available in a requirements.ttx file | 13:08 |
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| IgorYozhikov | confirming, tool is working as expected - filling up entries without versions | 13:09 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: I still don't get why you want to have old versions in th .spec.j2 . can you explain? | 13:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | I do not want | 13:09 |
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| IgorYozhikov | Just looking further - using tool in automated env we will get updated spec.j2 | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | in case if outdated versions, for example: | 13:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | mitaka-2 has foo >=2.5.0 | 13:11 |
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| IgorYozhikov | mitaka-3 introduce foo >=2.5.2 | 13:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | and I just want to be sure that renderspec will update 2.5.0.with 2.5.2 | 13:12 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: then in the spec.j2 would be {{ py2pkg('foo) }} and you just update in requirements.txt "foo>=2.5.0" to "foo>=2.5.2" | 13:12 |
| toabctl | that's it. | 13:12 |
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| IgorYozhikov | history? | 13:13 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: history of what? | 13:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | versions vs OS release | 13:13 |
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| toabctl | you can track the requirements.txt in git | 13:14 |
| IgorYozhikov | I believe that we are going to create branches | 13:14 |
| toabctl | yes | 13:14 |
| dirk | right, thats probably one of the next actions - to update rpm-packaging tox jobs to generate renderspec' specfiles for all variants | 13:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | where we will keep templates with versions. I far as I know requirements for stable OS releases has been updated from time to time | 13:16 |
| IgorYozhikov | and will we reuse last requirements from updated stable branches, or will keep versions inside j2 | 13:17 |
| dirk | we'd branch rpm-packaging git repo for the stable branch, and maintain a "stable" copy of the glocal requirements file there | 13:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | if we are going to rely on requirements, we could totally skip versinoing in j2s | 13:18 |
| dirk | in theory, yes. at least for all python dependencies | 13:18 |
| dirk | there might be more dependencies though (non-python deps) | 13:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes | 13:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | if so - I'm fine | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | for projects with requirements.txt - it is looking fine | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, dirk - anything else for this topic? | 13:20 |
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| dirk | not from me | 13:20 |
| dirk | thanks to toabctl for working on this while I was PTO! | 13:21 |
| toabctl | well - does the currentl proposal look ok? or any changes requested? | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | you already have my 2 | 13:21 |
| dirk | small comments only, lets address that in the review | 13:21 |
| toabctl | ok. | 13:21 |
| dirk | overall I am fine with it | 13:21 |
| toabctl | ad thanks igor for reviewing and testing! | 13:21 |
| dirk | I haven't fully checked how this interacts with the epoch handling though | 13:21 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280246/4/openstack/python-glanceclient/python-glanceclient.spec.j2 - epoch works, test locally | 13:23 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's proceed with topics? | 13:23 |
| dirk | #topic AI reviews# | 13:23 |
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| dirk | so first one is | 13:24 |
| dirk | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging_weekly_meeting/2016/rpm_packaging_weekly_meeting.2016-02-18-14.04.html | 13:24 |
| dirk | there was | 13:24 |
| dirk | ACTION: toabctl proposes rpm-packaging-status.py to rpm-packaging-tools repo | 13:24 |
| toabctl | ^^ done | 13:25 |
| dirk | iirc that was done | 13:25 |
| toabctl | needs another +1 iirc | 13:25 |
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| dirk | and ACTION: toabctl come up with prototype | 13:25 |
| toabctl | hm. prototyper for what? :) | 13:25 |
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| dirk | I think for the epoch handling | 13:25 |
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| dirk | which is done | 13:25 |
| toabctl | ah.ok. | 13:25 |
| toabctl | it's done and merged. | 13:25 |
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| dirk | yep | 13:26 |
| dirk | next one | 13:26 |
| dirk | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-02-25-13.01.html | 13:26 |
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| dirk | ACTION: IgorYozhikov document existing review guidelines under wiki.openstack.org/rpm-packaging/ReviewGuidelines | 13:26 |
| dirk | that was done | 13:26 |
| dirk | I haven't had a close look yet | 13:26 |
| dirk | did anyone else review it? | 13:26 |
| toabctl | it's done but already outdated | 13:26 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'll update it tomorrow | 13:27 |
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| toabctl | I suggest to remove the parts where we describe renderspec features | 13:27 |
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| toabctl | that's already in #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/renderspec/ | 13:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes | 13:27 |
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| toabctl | which will be updated with every new commit. | 13:27 |
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| IgorYozhikov | let's move forward if there are no objections... | 13:29 |
| * dirk has to reboot | 13:29 | |
| dirk | Can somebody check the action items in the next meeting? | 13:30 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, I can | 13:30 |
| dirk | Please do.. I'm on fs check now :-) | 13:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok | 13:31 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk figure out solution for changelog extraction problem | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | I believe that we will wait for fsck here | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | ACTION: IgorYozhikov send CR for flavor-specific subdirectory handling in renderspec | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291158/ | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | work in progress here | 13:33 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: not done | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | I need to write tests, main part and docs more | less done | 13:33 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: I was on PTO :/ will work on it | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | thanks dirk | 13:34 |
| IgorYozhikov | I believe that thar are all AIs from last meetings | 13:34 |
| dirk | thanks | 13:35 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, dirk - as we discussed, I add flavor - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291158/ | 13:35 |
| dirk | I have one extra topic | 13:36 |
| IgorYozhikov | description in usage.rst | 13:36 |
| IgorYozhikov | just want to discuss your thoughts about implementation of SOURCEs flavor | 13:37 |
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| dirk | in general it looks good to me though I'd rather add it when we have a concrete issue to solve | 13:38 |
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| dirk | or maybe.. I forgot the conrete issue we tried to solve | 13:39 |
| dirk | ah, I remembe,r it was for various init scripts | 13:39 |
| dirk | which could be distro specific | 13:39 |
| dirk | ok. | 13:39 |
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| IgorYozhikov | different systemd units | 13:39 |
| toabctl | I wonder if we start to add more and more --foobar flags which we then pass to the context. | 13:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | for fedora | suse | 13:39 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, if --flavor not set and context functions is used it will use spec-style | 13:40 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'm trying to be flexible here | 13:40 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: what if there is no difference? | 13:41 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: the question I guess is if we should consider --spec-style and --flavor to be always identical | 13:41 |
| dirk | e.g. rename --spec-style to --flavor | 13:41 |
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| IgorYozhikov | in case of --flavor is set - flavor value is used | 13:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | if not - spec-style value used | 13:42 |
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| IgorYozhikov | here I want to solve next situation | 13:42 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: but then we need for everything that uses flavor at least the "number of specs style files" | 13:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | for example: user wants to render with fedora style but with custom SOURCE folder, | 13:43 |
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| toabctl | btw. it would be cool to have more external CIs to see problems in real build envs... | 13:43 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, I'm working of CI development | 13:43 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: do you need that for yourself? or just a theoretical user? | 13:44 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, both cases, if to be frank | 13:45 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: ok, but why does it make sense to have two flags and not just one? | 13:46 |
| dirk | if we need a mirantis_rhel and a mirantis_suse spec style? | 13:47 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: even with the current setup (without any flavor at all) you can do what you can with the flavor feature. just replace the SOURCE file with the one you need | 13:47 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, flavor used only as override in case of using custom folder name | 13:47 |
| IgorYozhikov | that is it. | 13:48 |
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| dirk | is it okay when we postpone the discussion of this iinto the review or the regular irc channel? | 13:49 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, about replacing - week ago we spoke about storing systemd units with spec.j2 | 13:49 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, ok | 13:50 |
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| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: yeah. I need to reread what we talked about. pardon | 13:50 |
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| toabctl | I just try to focus on our goal (clients for mitaka) and try to avoid adding things which are not needed for that | 13:50 |
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| toabctl | init systems are not needed | 13:51 |
| dirk | #agreed discuss --flavor handling in renderspec in more detail | 13:51 |
| IgorYozhikov | :) | 13:51 |
| IgorYozhikov | reviews? | 13:51 |
| dirk | #topic PTL self-nomination | 13:51 |
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| toabctl | one more topic from dirk :) | 13:51 |
| IgorYozhikov | wow | 13:52 |
| dirk | according to http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html next week is PTL self nomination time | 13:52 |
| dirk | is anyone interested? | 13:52 |
| * toabctl not | 13:52 | |
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| dirk | just wanted to bring up the topic to think about. I am myself unsure | 13:53 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, it depends in responsibilities | 13:53 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: responsibilities as documented :) | 13:53 |
| IgorYozhikov | need to read more before answer frankly | 13:53 |
| dirk | yep, just think about it. we can talk about it before hand | 13:53 |
| IgorYozhikov | yesp, thanks for rising the topic | 13:54 |
| dirk | #topic Design Summit Austin space needs | 13:54 |
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| dirk | Similarly, we need to propose our needs for the design summit in austin | 13:54 |
| dirk | I Haven't read the details yet, I'll send that around by email in the next day(s) | 13:54 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, toabctl - shared document with all thoughts? | 13:55 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: context? design summit or flavor thing? for flavor I think we can create a wiki page / blue print / etherpad | 13:55 |
| IgorYozhikov | summit | 13:56 |
| toabctl | about ptl? ok | 13:56 |
| toabctl | summit. ah. ok. I suggest etherpad | 13:56 |
| toabctl | cI have a hard stop in 4 minutes btw | 13:56 |
| dirk | ok, will do | 13:56 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok | 13:56 |
| dirk | #topic reviews | 13:56 |
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| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270352/ | 13:57 |
| toabctl | also #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec | 13:57 |
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| toabctl | ^^ can be merged | 13:58 |
| toabctl | build just timedout | 13:58 |
| toabctl | dirk: can you review and merge? | 13:58 |
| dirk | toabctl: yes, will do | 13:58 |
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| toabctl | btw. it would be good to get the renderspec changes in so we can simplify all the new spec.j2 directly | 13:59 |
| dirk | agreed | 13:59 |
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| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: I had no time yet to look at the proposed client specs. sorry for tha | 13:59 |
| toabctl | t | 13:59 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, dirk - will spent some time on review today | tomorrow | 14:00 |
| toabctl | ok. I have to go. sorry | 14:00 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: yes, me too. I'm catching up with stuff today after being offline | 14:01 |
| dirk | talk to you next week! | 14:01 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 14:01:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok, so c u later then | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-03-10-13.01.html | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-03-10-13.01.txt | 14:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-03-10-13.01.log.html | 14:01 |
| m3m0 | #startmeeting freezer | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 14:01:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:01 |
| yangyape_ | hello m3m0 | 14:02 |
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| daemontool__ | the weekly Freezer meeting today will be delayed by 10 minutes because of the source code walk through session | 14:02 |
| m3m0 | hello | 14:02 |
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| m3m0 | daemontool__: do you want to be the chair today? | 14:02 |
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| daemontool__ | ok thanks | 14:03 |
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| daemontool__ | ok | 14:11 |
| daemontool__ | here we are | 14:11 |
| daemontool__ | topis and meeting notes available at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:12 |
| daemontool__ | s/topis/topic/ | 14:12 |
| daemontool__ | so | 14:12 |
| daemontool__ | #topic Should we do a one-time sync of our liberty and mitaka branches ? | 14:13 |
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| daemontool__ | m3m0, slashme szaher frescof yangyape_ EinstCrazy zhangjn et all | 14:13 |
| m3m0 | o/ | 14:13 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:13 |
| yangyape_ | :0 | 14:13 |
| zhangjn | :) | 14:14 |
| slashme | i'm here | 14:14 |
| slashme | This was raised by reldan | 14:14 |
| slashme | The idea is : | 14:14 |
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| reldan | 0/ | 14:14 |
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| slashme | Our mitaka (current master) and liberty branch are very very close because we backported nearly every commit | 14:14 |
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| daemontool__ | I think we have 2 issues there | 14:15 |
| daemontool__ | 1 is that liberty and mitaka were branched in a close timeframe | 14:15 |
| daemontool__ | that is not going to happena nymore in the future | 14:15 |
| daemontool__ | the other one | 14:15 |
| slashme | In order to simplify support of the liberty branch, reldan proposed that we do a sync of the two | 14:15 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:15 |
| daemontool__ | I'd focus more on find an agreement | 14:16 |
| daemontool__ | on how to do this in the near future | 14:16 |
| daemontool__ | and stick with that | 14:16 |
| daemontool__ | doing any rebase | 14:16 |
| daemontool__ | take time | 14:16 |
| daemontool__ | probably it is better to focus on new features | 14:17 |
| daemontool__ | testing and doc | 14:17 |
| daemontool__ | rather backporting | 14:17 |
| daemontool__ | unless we have serius bugs | 14:17 |
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| slashme | So you agree that we should sync them ? | 14:17 |
| daemontool__ | nope | 14:17 |
| daemontool__ | because it is not what we are going to do in the future | 14:17 |
| daemontool__ | most probably | 14:17 |
| zhangjn | agree daemontool | 14:18 |
| slashme | Yes I agree, it won't happen in the future | 14:18 |
| daemontool__ | so I'll start doing things how we'll do it in the near future | 14:18 |
| daemontool__ | from now | 14:18 |
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| daemontool__ | s/I'll/I'd/ | 14:18 |
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| zhangjn | I think we can impove our doc for user. | 14:18 |
| daemontool__ | zhangjn, definetely | 14:18 |
| slashme | I agree | 14:18 |
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| daemontool__ | reldan, sounds resonable to you? | 14:19 |
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| slashme | Can we then take two minutes to agree on the workflow | 14:19 |
| daemontool__ | so from now on | 14:19 |
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| reldan | I agree with any solution. | 14:20 |
| daemontool__ | o from now on | 14:20 |
| zhangjn | nobady use freezer just look README.rst | 14:20 |
| daemontool__ | we will just backport the bugs | 14:20 |
| zhangjn | I think this a problem. | 14:20 |
| daemontool__ | doc improvement | 14:20 |
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| daemontool__ | and testing | 14:20 |
| slashme | I think we need to stick to backporting bugfix, Even if this means rewriting a full change to manage the bug in older branches. | 14:20 |
| daemontool__ | well the bugfix has priority | 14:21 |
| daemontool__ | for sure | 14:21 |
| daemontool__ | we can maange this case by case | 14:21 |
| zhangjn | otherwise testing testing testing | 14:21 |
| daemontool__ | zhangjn, that's for sure something we have to anyway :) | 14:21 |
| reldan | For my point of view: 1) We need good tests - now we haven't | 14:22 |
| slashme | +1 | 14:22 |
| daemontool__ | reldan, ++ | 14:22 |
| reldan | And actually it is all | 14:22 |
| zhangjn | ++ | 14:22 |
| zhangjn | +1 | 14:22 |
| EinstCrazy | +1 | 14:22 |
| yangyape_ | +1 | 14:22 |
| reldan | If I know that my code works with mysql, mongo, windows, linux for restore, backup | 14:22 |
| daemontool__ | we can write tempest tests now | 14:22 |
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| reldan | I may sleep well | 14:22 |
| daemontool__ | as we have the plugin | 14:22 |
| zhangjn | unit test first | 14:23 |
| reldan | Otherwise we should invest tremendous amount of time for manual testing and bug fixing | 14:23 |
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| daemontool__ | zhangjn, unit test we have | 14:23 |
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| daemontool__ | what we need it integration tests | 14:23 |
| reldan | I would prefer functional tests | 14:24 |
| reldan | Like I don’t sure that we capable to do 100GB backup | 14:24 |
| reldan | and restore | 14:24 |
| reldan | Just I don’t know | 14:24 |
| ddieterly | +1 on integration tests | 14:24 |
| EinstCrazy | I think integration tests need a way to autodeploy the freezer first | 14:25 |
| daemontool__ | until few months ago | 14:25 |
| daemontool__ | the agent was capable of doing >500GB backups | 14:25 |
| zhangjn | +1 integration tests | 14:25 |
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| daemontool__ | anyway | 14:25 |
| zhangjn | we can test it in our lab | 14:25 |
| daemontool__ | this is a different topic | 14:25 |
| slashme | +1 on functional testing | 14:25 |
| daemontool__ | all good for the backportig thing? | 14:25 |
| reldan | I would like to have a system, that will do 100GB backup restore every day or at least once per week | 14:26 |
| daemontool__ | integration test is the topic 3 | 14:26 |
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| daemontool__ | I think the periodic tests can help us doing that | 14:26 |
| reldan | I’m fine with backporting, but it is not a root of our problems. It a symptome | 14:26 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:26 |
| daemontool__ | next | 14:26 |
| daemontool__ | #topic python-freezerclient | 14:26 |
| daemontool__ | m3m0, | 14:27 |
| daemontool__ | does the tests workd there? | 14:27 |
| daemontool__ | s/word/works/ | 14:27 |
| m3m0 | the ui is capable of using the freezerclient, I'm integrating the scheduler now | 14:27 |
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| daemontool__ | ok | 14:27 |
| m3m0 | but I'm having some issues with testr | 14:27 |
| daemontool__ | so we need to have tests working | 14:27 |
| daemontool__ | or the build will fail at repo creation | 14:27 |
| daemontool__ | what's the issue you are having? | 14:28 |
| m3m0 | maybe is my workstation but I need one more day to finish it | 14:28 |
| m3m0 | I think I might be executing the tests incorrectly | 14:28 |
| daemontool__ | the tests are the same as the apiclient right? | 14:28 |
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| m3m0 | most of them yes | 14:29 |
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| daemontool__ | is the current code on your repo? | 14:29 |
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| m3m0 | yes, we still need to create the pypi repo and the gihub one, any news? | 14:29 |
| daemontool__ | I'll do that after the tests works | 14:29 |
| m3m0 | >S | 14:29 |
| daemontool__ | :) | 14:29 |
| m3m0 | :s ok | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | we need to know the tests works | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | that's for sure | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | all good with this topic? | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | sure | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | yes | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | can we move forward? | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | next | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | #topic Integration tests | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | so where we left? | 14:30 |
| daemontool__ | ddieterly, are you doing some other stuff on this regards? | 14:31 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:31 |
| daemontool__ | so we need the following | 14:31 |
| ddieterly | i'm trying to get the tempest test to exercise the freezer api | 14:31 |
| daemontool__ | ah ok | 14:31 |
| daemontool__ | that's what I was saying | 14:32 |
| ddieterly | if i can get one example, then the rest should be easy | 14:32 |
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| zhangjn | discuss some Test Case | 14:32 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:32 |
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| daemontool__ | probably the test cases should start from the agent? | 14:32 |
| zhangjn | test all api or some api first. | 14:32 |
| ddieterly | i'm also trying to get the gate job to run the tempest tests for freezer | 14:32 |
| daemontool__ | being executed by the scheduler so we have all the flow tested? | 14:33 |
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| daemontool__ | ddieterly, I can give you some test cases for the agent | 14:33 |
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| daemontool__ | Monday | 14:33 |
| ddieterly | ok | 14:33 |
| daemontool__ | or Tuesday | 14:33 |
| daemontool__ | Tuesday most probably | 14:33 |
| daemontool__ | if anyone has test case | 14:34 |
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| daemontool__ | please provide them to ddieterly | 14:34 |
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| ddieterly | i would prefer if you wrote them yourselves | 14:34 |
| ddieterly | once one test is working, then there will be an example that people can follow | 14:34 |
| ddieterly | should be easy | 14:34 |
| daemontool__ | sorry then I didn't get what you were asking before | 14:34 |
| ddieterly | the hard part is getting the gates setup and getting one tests to work | 14:35 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 14:35 |
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| daemontool__ | ok | 14:35 |
| zhangjn | devstack is not work? | 14:35 |
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| zhangjn | where is the bug to setup freezer? | 14:35 |
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| daemontool__ | which bug? not sure I'm following | 14:36 |
| daemontool__ | devstck should work now | 14:36 |
| daemontool__ | ddieterly, ok let us know if you need anything | 14:37 |
| daemontool__ | or anything we can do | 14:37 |
| ddieterly | will do | 14:37 |
| daemontool__ | ty | 14:37 |
| vannif | I agree with ddieterly, once the skeleton for the integration tests is working, adding them should be boring .. I mean "easy" | 14:37 |
| daemontool__ | next | 14:37 |
| daemontool__ | #topic source code walkthru session for scheduler we need to reschedule | 14:37 |
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| daemontool__ | so the source code walkthrough it happen only partly | 14:38 |
| daemontool__ | this morning because of technical issues | 14:38 |
| daemontool__ | we need to reschedule that | 14:38 |
| daemontool__ | when? | 14:38 |
| zhangjn | :( | 14:38 |
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| daemontool__ | zhangjn, EinstCrazy yangyape_ it is ok for you to do it tomorrow? | 14:38 |
| yangyape_ | ok | 14:38 |
| daemontool__ | or Monday or next Thursday? | 14:38 |
| daemontool__ | vannif, sounds good for you? | 14:39 |
| zhangjn | share screen is not work. | 14:39 |
| yangyape_ | everyday is fine :) | 14:39 |
| zhangjn | I think the network is terrible for us. | 14:39 |
| vannif | yes | 14:39 |
| daemontool__ | so let's do this tomorrow | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | same time? | 14:40 |
| vannif | you didn't see the sceeen ? | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | let's use web ex | 14:40 |
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| daemontool__ | vannif, please let's make sure | 14:40 |
| vannif | it always start in mandarin for me. idk why | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | the layout is english | 14:40 |
| yangyape_ | no I don't see the share screen | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | lol | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | ojk | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | so tomorrow Morning please | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | let's do that | 14:40 |
| daemontool__ | and also find a way of recording the session, so to be uploaded to youtube along with the previous one | 14:41 |
| vannif | hmmm. so. either I try it starting from *now*, or I record a demo and then we only handle questions in the meeting | 14:41 |
| zhangjn | doc instead of walkthough. | 14:41 |
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| daemontool__ | zhangjn, like documenting the code? | 14:42 |
| daemontool__ | or the user documentation | 14:42 |
| daemontool__ | ? | 14:42 |
| zhangjn | code comment | 14:43 |
| zhangjn | update the use document | 14:43 |
| zhangjn | we can review this patch | 14:43 |
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| reldan | I would prefer code refactoring over code comment. If something is not clear - let’s make it clear | 14:43 |
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| daemontool__ | yes I think anyway | 14:44 |
| daemontool__ | the documentation in the classes and functions docstrings | 14:44 |
| daemontool__ | can be improved | 14:44 |
| reldan | If you can check our code and place //todo - not clear in places where it is not clear | 14:44 |
| daemontool__ | so the documentation can be generated automatically | 14:44 |
| reldan | and send a pull requiest with such comments - it will be really cool | 14:44 |
| reldan | like #todo: nothing clear here | 14:44 |
| zhangjn | yes | 14:45 |
| daemontool__ | ok zhangjn ty | 14:45 |
| reldan | Thank you! | 14:45 |
| zhangjn | this is a good way to learn and impove our freezer. | 14:45 |
| EinstCrazy | +1 | 14:45 |
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| daemontool__ | ok | 14:46 |
| daemontool__ | next | 14:46 |
| daemontool__ | #topic What needs to be done for Mitaka | 14:46 |
| daemontool__ | 1) python-freezerclient package | 14:46 |
| daemontool__ | 2) try to get rysnc code in, if by next Tuesday is available with tests and doc, it will be in, otherwise Newton | 14:47 |
| daemontool__ | 3) ? | 14:47 |
| daemontool__ | starting from Tuesday next week we should focus at least 1 week only on documentation improvement | 14:47 |
| daemontool__ | and testing | 14:47 |
| daemontool__ | stabilization | 14:47 |
| daemontool__ | all of us | 14:47 |
| daemontool__ | until 25th of March | 14:48 |
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| daemontool__ | anything more? | 14:48 |
| daemontool__ | next | 14:49 |
| daemontool__ | #topic Summit | 14:49 |
| daemontool__ | so we have 1 talk approved | 14:49 |
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| zhangjn | Congratulations | 14:49 |
| daemontool__ | and 3 slots for the design | 14:49 |
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| daemontool__ | so we can get together and have dev and arch conversations | 14:50 |
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| daemontool__ | and discuss together many things | 14:50 |
| daemontool__ | f2f | 14:50 |
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| daemontool__ | I hope to see all of you in Austin | 14:50 |
| daemontool__ | anything to add? | 14:50 |
| daemontool__ | next | 14:50 |
| daemontool__ | #topic DR bp: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278242 | 14:50 |
| slashme | daemontool__: only my personal opinion here. I think that the rsync code integration would make more sense in newton with th plugable engines | 14:50 |
| slashme | But that does not really matter | 14:51 |
| daemontool__ | the engines are already pluggable | 14:51 |
| daemontool__ | probably there are more code we can abstract | 14:51 |
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| daemontool__ | but the basic abstraction is done | 14:51 |
| vannif | about the engines, yes. I'd like to see the documentation on how it works, the file formats, the structure of any metadata etc. before any code implementation actually | 14:52 |
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| vannif | the rsync I mean | 14:52 |
| daemontool__ | vannif, ok | 14:52 |
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| daemontool__ | the implementation already started many months ago | 14:53 |
| daemontool__ | :) | 14:53 |
| daemontool__ | but it make sense | 14:53 |
| vannif | yeah, I know :P | 14:53 |
| daemontool__ | to provide the necessary information | 14:53 |
| vannif | but if anyone wants to check the code, help with the implementation ... | 14:53 |
| slashme | Added as a topic for the midcycle meetup | 14:53 |
| vannif | having an idea of how it is supposed to work is fundamental | 14:54 |
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| daemontool__ | the ongoing review is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290461/ | 14:54 |
| daemontool__ | still work in progress | 14:54 |
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| daemontool__ | ok | 14:55 |
| daemontool__ | so by Monday we should have a first implementation | 14:55 |
| daemontool__ | with the metadata | 14:55 |
| daemontool__ | that can be changed anytime | 14:55 |
| daemontool__ | and we have something | 14:55 |
| daemontool__ | more tangible | 14:55 |
| daemontool__ | we can discuss on | 14:55 |
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| daemontool__ | vannif, I'd like to have some feedback | 14:56 |
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| daemontool__ | not on the rsync code itself at this stage | 14:56 |
| daemontool__ | but on the way the incremental_engine | 14:56 |
| daemontool__ | is organized in the code | 14:56 |
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| daemontool__ | what can be abstracted and more | 14:56 |
| daemontool__ | but IMHO, we have many things to do | 14:56 |
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| daemontool__ | so 1 engineer for now full time is more than enough on that | 14:57 |
| daemontool__ | but reviews needs to be done anyway | 14:57 |
| vannif | yes. but in the end it will be a piece of art :) | 14:57 |
| daemontool__ | as everything :) | 14:57 |
| daemontool__ | so | 14:57 |
| daemontool__ | let's move forward | 14:57 |
| daemontool__ | #topic DR | 14:57 |
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| daemontool__ | frescof, are you around? | 14:58 |
| daemontool__ | I see you updated the dp | 14:58 |
| daemontool__ | bp | 14:58 |
| daemontool__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278242 | 14:58 |
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| daemontool__ | can we please add all our considerations there? | 14:58 |
| slashme | Still | 14:58 |
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| slashme | the same problem | 14:58 |
| daemontool__ | slashme, ok | 14:58 |
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| daemontool__ | write it down there | 14:59 |
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| daemontool__ | I'd like to have some discussion reported there | 14:59 |
| daemontool__ | then we'll ask for feedback on the openstack ml | 14:59 |
| slashme | m3m0 jonaspf and me started thinking about a viable solution | 14:59 |
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| daemontool__ | so the community can see our discussion | 14:59 |
| daemontool__ | slashme, fantastic | 14:59 |
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| slashme | We'll be happy to explain the draft at the midcycle and then get the opinion of the comunity | 15:00 |
| daemontool__ | ok | 15:00 |
| daemontool__ | we have one topic left | 15:00 |
| daemontool__ | let's do that in #openstack-freezer please | 15:00 |
| daemontool__ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| daemontool__ | m3m0, close the meeting please | 15:00 |
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| daemontool__ | :) | 15:00 |
| daemontool__ | thanks | 15:00 |
| zhangjn | tkx | 15:00 |
| zhangjn | thx | 15:00 |
| m3m0 | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 15:01:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-03-10-14.01.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-03-10-14.01.txt | 15:01 |
| vannif | thanks | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-03-10-14.01.log.html | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | hello manila folks | 15:01 |
| toabctl | hey | 15:01 |
| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | Hello o/ | 15:01 |
| Yogi1 | Hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 15:01:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| ameade | hola | 15:01 |
| tpsilva | hello o/ | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| jcsp | hi | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| jseiler | hi | 15:01 |
| Zhongjun_ | Hi | 15:01 |
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| csaba | hey | 15:01 |
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| dustins | \o | 15:02 |
| bswartz | Nobody added anything to the agenda today | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so I'm just going to talk about the RC | 15:02 |
| bswartz | and bugs | 15:02 |
| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
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| ameade | agenda + notifications please | 15:02 |
| dustins | bswartz: I had something in the agenda | 15:02 |
| bswartz | dustins: oh, that was under the March 3rd meeting -- I got confused | 15:02 |
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| dustins | Oops, I just did the "Next Meeting" thing and updated it | 15:03 |
| bswartz | okay dustins I'll put your topic back in and we'll hit it in one second | 15:03 |
| dustins | w00t | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | #link #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 15:03 |
| bswartz | err | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | we have a huge number of bugs targeted to RC1 | 15:04 |
| bswartz | and there will probably be more coming, as people continue to test and file bugs | 15:04 |
| bswartz | reviewers should be using this list to prioritize their reviews | 15:05 |
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| mkoderer | keystone v3 support is borken btw :( | 15:05 |
| mkoderer | s/borken/broken/ | 15:05 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: indeed | 15:05 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: I tagged that bug critical | 15:05 |
| bswartz | anyways our target date for RC1 is exactly 1 week from today | 15:05 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: I have a fix running in my env but it need much more polishing | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | and honestly I'll be shocked if every one of these targeted bugs gets fixed | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | mkoderer: fix for generic driver? | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | mkoderer: and usage of nova-, cinder- and neutronclients? | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | so let's get the important ones fixed and merged ASAP and do our best to get the rest fixed | 15:07 |
| mkoderer | vponomaryov: so baiscally I started with neutron.. and know I wrote a general solution | 15:07 |
| bswartz | starting next week if you own a bug and there is no fix posted I'm going to start pinging you and asking if we can retarget the bug to newton | 15:07 |
| bswartz | RC1 doesn't get tagged until we have ZERO open bugs | 15:07 |
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| mkoderer | I would like to add a keystone v3 gate job after the fix is done | 15:08 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: +1 | 15:08 |
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| vponomaryov | mkoderer: why add? switch existing one fo rgeneric driver | 15:08 |
| bswartz | no more gate jobs | 15:09 |
| bswartz | just update the current ones | 15:09 |
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| mkoderer | bswartz: ok | 15:09 |
| bswartz | unless there's a good argument to continue testing on keystone v2 | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | then we need to ensure that at least one voting job also covers old keystone API | 15:09 |
| mkoderer | vponomaryov: basically disabling v2 for at least on job | 15:09 |
| mkoderer | s/on/one/ | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | so I have 2 more things to say about bugs | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | if you file a bug and you think it needs to be fixed in Mitaka -- make sure you find a bug supervisor and get it targeted! | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | for reviewers: don't even look at fixes for bugs that aren't targeted to RC1 | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://launchpad.net/~manila-bug-supervisors | 15:11 |
| bswartz | we have too much to review without looking at untargeted stuff | 15:11 |
| mkoderer | https://launchpad.net/~manila-bug-supervisors | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | okay that's all I have to say about bugs | 15:13 |
| mkoderer | btw we had bug smash event this week | 15:13 |
| mkoderer | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Mitaka | 15:13 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:13 |
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| mkoderer | manila was one of the hot topics at least in the german team | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | mkoderer: that's awesome | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | #topic Common Capabilities Matrix | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | okay dustins it's your turn | 15:14 |
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| dustins | Thanks, bswartz! | 15:15 |
| dustins | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288504/ | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/04/288504/6/check/gate-manila-docs/c696e6f//doc/build/html/devref/share_back_ends_feature_support_mapping.html#mapping-of-share-drivers-and-common-capabilities | 15:15 |
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| dustins | I'm adding a common capabilities table to the developer reference for things like QoS, Thin Provisioning, DHSS, etc | 15:16 |
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| dustins | I'd like to have all of the drivers' capabilities in there before it merges | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | cknight: woah. great find. one table's not displayed. | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: in case of ZFSonLinux driver, "compression" can be set in config option for ZFS dataset, so answer is yes and no | 15:16 |
| dustins | I've got a good chunk of them in there, but I'd like to have all of them | 15:17 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: then it's supported | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: but not by manila/scheduler | 15:17 |
| bswartz | dustins, can you enumerate the ones you need help with? | 15:17 |
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| gouthamr | vponomaryov: we should only have those that reported as capabilities currently.. | 15:18 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: if the driver doesn't use the common capability, then it's not supported -- but it sounds like it could be supported | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | I recommend a feature in Newton to add it | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, we can consider it a bug | 15:18 |
| bswartz | no that's a feature | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: support exists but not reported as capability | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | even if we pretend it's a bug, it's a low priority one | 15:19 |
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| gouthamr | bswartz: a bugfix i think; we had this issue with the hnas driver.. tpsilva fixed it.. | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | that's not the kind of thing we should waste time on when we have very broken things | 15:19 |
| dustins | Looks like I need ZFSonLinux, Generic, EMC VNX, EMC Isilon, GlusterFS, GlusterFS Native, HDFS, LVM, LXD, Windows SMB, IBM GPFS, and Oracle ZFSSA | 15:19 |
| dustins | Those are the ones | 15:19 |
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| Yogi1 | dustins Looks pretty small list ;) | 15:19 |
| dustins | cknight: Strange, when I look at the docs-draft, I see the table I added | 15:20 |
| bswartz | dustins: you just listed like 75% of the drivers | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | )) | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | dustins: try removing the note. | 15:20 |
| cknight | dustins: I didn't believe it either, but I looked in 2 different browsers. | 15:20 |
| dustins | Oh whoa, the one I added is there, but the one before is gone | 15:20 |
| dustins | Weird... | 15:21 |
| * dustins really needs to stop committing when on airplanes | 15:21 | |
| gouthamr | dustins: the ascii table borders don't match up | 15:21 |
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| gouthamr | dustins: yeah, stop doing that. we've a lot of things in-flight already. :P | 15:21 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | okay I think this discussion belongs in the code review not the meeting | 15:22 |
| dustins | Yup, since I moved some things around | 15:22 |
| bswartz | so docs fixes are also fair game to review and merge | 15:22 |
| dustins | Yeah, I'll fix that once this is done and have one that's decidedly unbroken :) | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | dustins: +1 -> thanks for making the list, it's helpful | 15:22 |
| dustins | Happy to help! | 15:23 |
| bswartz | dustins: use the ML for wider attention if you need responses and aren't getting them | 15:23 |
| dustins | bswartz: Wilco | 15:23 |
| bswartz | some of our driver maintainers don't come to these meetings at all | 15:23 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: who do we have for HDFS? | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | bswartz dustins: on that topic, could we please request them to update the driverlog? | 15:24 |
| bswartz | the driver is unmaintained at the moment, but rraja has been kind enough to fix the CI system | 15:24 |
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| dustins | gouthamr: Driverlog? | 15:24 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: yes | 15:25 |
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| gouthamr | dustins: https://github.com/openstack/driverlog/blob/689c897a2c35d72ae0b6748f3ef11be2b87ad824/etc/default_data.json | 15:25 |
| bswartz | dustins: that all? | 15:25 |
| dustins | bswartz: Yup, that's all I got for this topic | 15:25 |
| dustins | Thanks | 15:25 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | alright anything else for today? | 15:25 |
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| ameade | I wanted to point out that it seems manila doesnt really support notifications | 15:26 |
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| ameade | there is basically one place | 15:26 |
| ameade | rpc.get_notifier('shareType').info( | 15:26 |
| ameade | context, 'share_type.create', notifier_info) | 15:26 |
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| ameade | but other than that not really | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | ameade: multiple places.. | 15:26 |
| jseiler | hi, we're looking implement a new driver in the Newton release. What are the deadlines to submit a new driver? | 15:26 |
| ameade | for .error there are more | 15:26 |
| dustins | If anyone's interested, the RDO Test Days are today and tomorrow | 15:27 |
| bswartz | jseiler: for Mitaka we did Feature Freeze date minus 3 weeks | 15:27 |
| dustins | #link https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/mitaka/milestone3/ | 15:27 |
| mkoderer | I have some good news from HPB support :) | 15:27 |
| bswartz | jseiler: we haven't discussed the deadline for Newton yet | 15:27 |
| mkoderer | I had a deep dive session with rkukura and we have a plan to support HPB without any API changes :) | 15:28 |
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| mkoderer | I will give an update on the ML | 15:28 |
| bswartz | jseiler: but unless we make a change, it will be the same for Newton | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | mkoderer: nice! | 15:28 |
| bswartz | jseiler: however earlier is always better! | 15:28 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: without any API changes in which project? | 15:29 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: not in Neutron and not in Manila :) | 15:29 |
| bswartz | were you looking at changes the neutron API? or the manila API? or both? | 15:29 |
| jseiler | bswartz: what have you done for past releases? I'm familiar with cinder, they require new drivers for the 1 milestion (i.e., m1). Have you done anything similar for manila drivers? | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | jseiler: did you see what I wrote? | 15:29 |
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| vponomaryov | jseiler: we merged drivers in m3 | 15:30 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: there were some thought have a api change in manila to notify with the used segementation_id | 15:30 |
| * bswartz wonders if his IRC is on the fritz again | 15:30 | |
| mkoderer | bswartz: but all good.. I will modify my prototype and let you know | 15:30 |
| jseiler | bswartz: yes. I was trying to get a feel for what was done in the past. thank you. | 15:30 |
| jseiler | vponomaryov: thank you | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | jseiler: by the deadline we expect a complete driver with high unit tests coverage and working (and passing) CI | 15:31 |
| bswartz | we weren't explicit about the date for the CI requirement in Mitaka so we can fix that for Newton | 15:31 |
| bswartz | the CI should be passing by the driver deadline date IMO | 15:32 |
| jseiler | bswartz: thank you. so it sounds similar to the requirements for a cinder driver. | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | jseiler: "complete" means required set of features is implemented, see #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/driver_requirements.html | 15:32 |
| jseiler | vponomaryov: thank your for the link | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | mkoderer: I'd prefer if you worked on bugs for the next week and not the HPB stuff | 15:33 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: and my boss kicks me if I don't work on HPB :P | 15:33 |
| bswartz | I think this is the highest number of open bugs we've ever had against an RC | 15:33 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: but keystone v3 has higher prio than HPB | 15:33 |
| bswartz | I'm still looking at open bugs and targeting some of them, so the number could go higher | 15:33 |
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| vponomaryov | mkoderer: so, you are going to upload v3-fixes, right? | 15:34 |
| mkoderer | vponomaryov: yeah I hope I have something working till tomorrow | 15:34 |
| bswartz | thanks mkoderer | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | mkoderer: ok | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | alright I think we're done for today | 15:35 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: and btw I have two other team member that are focusing on manila bug fixing (dgonzalez and tpatig) | 15:35 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone and happy bug hunting/fixing! | 15:35 |
| tbarron | cya | 15:36 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 15:36:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-03-10-15.01.html | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-03-10-15.01.txt | 15:36 |
| dustins | later! | 15:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-03-10-15.01.log.html | 15:36 |
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| xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
| xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
| xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
| xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
| xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
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| mihgen | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 16:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| maximov_ | hi | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
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| angdraug | o/ | 16:00 |
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| mwhahaha | hi | 16:00 |
| aignatov | \o/ | 16:01 |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:01 |
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| zynzel | hi! | 16:01 |
| vsakharov | hi | 16:01 |
| asvechnikov | hi | 16:01 |
| evgenyl | hi | 16:01 |
| ogelbukh_ | greetings | 16:01 |
| ashtokolov | o/ | 16:01 |
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| fzhadaev | Hi! | 16:02 |
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| mattymo` | hi | 16:02 |
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| ikutukov | hi! | 16:02 |
| xarses | ok, lets get going then | 16:02 |
| xarses | #topic Action items from last meeting | 16:02 |
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| xarses | xarses to follow up with aspiers on RA convergence | 16:02 |
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| xarses | this isn't done I still need to follow up with him | 16:03 |
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| xarses | moving on to the regular agenda | 16:03 |
| xarses | #topic Fuel upgrade status (ogelbukh) | 16:04 |
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| salmon_ | hi | 16:04 |
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| xarses | moving on then | 16:05 |
| ogelbukh_ | so, we stubled upon couple more things in fuel installation | 16:05 |
| xarses | nvm | 16:05 |
| ogelbukh_ | which we need to work around | 16:06 |
| ogelbukh_ | specifically, issue with nailgun admin password not syncing back to astute.yaml | 16:06 |
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| ogelbukh_ | which is understandable, but breaks our flow | 16:06 |
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| ogelbukh_ | we run another round of tests today and tomorrow, and be ready by monday | 16:07 |
| ogelbukh_ | I will send announces to MLs | 16:07 |
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| xarses | ok | 16:08 |
| ogelbukh_ | as for configdb, we work on adding repo in openstack/ space for extension, extension itself is working with Nailgun, starting integration from tomorrow | 16:08 |
| ogelbukh_ | that's basically all | 16:08 |
| angdraug | anyone remembers why we didn't add octane to fuel repos in governance? | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh_ | nope | 16:09 |
| angdraug | if not, I think we should add it and the new repo ogelbukh_ is creating | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh_ | please, assign me an AI on it | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh_ | xarses: ^^ | 16:09 |
| xarses | ok | 16:09 |
| xarses | anything else? | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh_ | thank you | 16:09 |
| xarses | #action ogelbukh_ will add octane and repo for configdb to fuel governance | 16:10 |
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| xarses | #topic concerns on puppet-openstack upstream master HEAD usage (aglarendil) | 16:10 |
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| aglarendil | \o | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | so far, folks. I expressed several concerns on this | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | 1) build is not reproducible | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | 2) there is no duty process set up currently | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | 3) issue with puppet-openstack modules and/or their integration | 16:11 |
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| aglarendil | affects other developers who do not actually need newer puppet-openstack modules | 16:12 |
| aglarendil | at least for another couple of weeks | 16:12 |
| angdraug | (1) is partially addressed by mwhahaha's commit to record sha1's of puppet modules: | 16:12 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/286310 | 16:12 |
| mwhahaha | wrong link :D | 16:12 |
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| xarses | I was gonna say | 16:12 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288768/ | 16:12 |
| aglarendil | I think we need to address all the concerns first and enable the process after | 16:12 |
| angdraug | right you are, bad paste | 16:13 |
| aglarendil | currently, if something fails, there is no guarantee that I will be able to debug things | 16:13 |
| ogelbukh_ | could we work off the latest milestone tags? | 16:13 |
| angdraug | (2) I've described the duty process: | 16:13 |
| angdraug | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/CI/Puppet_OpenStack_CI_duty | 16:13 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: it is not set up | 16:13 |
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| aglarendil | moreover, other concerns: process of using upstream commits | 16:13 |
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| aglarendil | is implicit | 16:13 |
| aglarendil | e.g. we do not control things - they are sliding below us without ability for us | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | to intervent manually | 16:14 |
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| holser_ | o/ | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | let alone, the job to monitor puppet-openstack has been disabled since March 5th, AFAIK | 16:14 |
| bookwar | aglarendil: it wasn't | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | okay, than I misinterpreted maximov_'s words | 16:15 |
| maximov_ | re 2 we do have duty, last week bugfix team was monitoring | 16:15 |
| aglarendil | sorry for that | 16:15 |
| maximov_ | this week, enhancement team on duty | 16:15 |
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| aglarendil | and lastly, having a duty for a thing that can be easily automated is ridiculous | 16:15 |
| aglarendil | we are wasting people time that can be put for better use | 16:15 |
| bookwar | aglarendil: please check duty description | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | and, frankly, look into our backlog | 16:16 |
| angdraug | now you are contradicting yourself | 16:16 |
| xarses | aglarendil: "moreover, other concerns: process of using upstream commits" | 16:16 |
| xarses | this isn't clear | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | moreover, majority of features of Fuel do not actually require newest openstack | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | while having risk of being blocked | 16:16 |
| angdraug | you're complaining that it's ridiculous to do manually what can be automated, and yet you're objecting to implicitly following upstream modules instead of manually updating them | 16:16 |
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| xarses | we've broken ourselves nearly 10x more than puppet-openstack | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: I am objecting to do it in implicit uncontrollable way | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | xarses: this is a loose argument | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | this actually means that we need less sources of failures | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | not more | 16:17 |
| angdraug | can't parse that last one | 16:17 |
| mihgen | particule suggestions how we can get the process controllable? | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: if we fail our CI | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | it is simple | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | as openstack upstream does with 3rd party libraries | 16:18 |
| mihgen | so that only certain people are working on failure, and the rest is doing their other stuff and not blocked | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | run a test nightly | 16:18 |
| angdraug | puppet modules are not 3rd party libraries for us | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | nope, they are | 16:18 |
| angdraug | openstack upstream projects don't do that between themselves | 16:18 |
| xarses | yes, and check voting on puppet-openstack will make this problem even more non-existent | 16:18 |
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| aglarendil | please tell me the percentage of features directly dependant on newest openstack modules | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | LCM? | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | SR-IOV? | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | DPDK? | 16:19 |
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| aglarendil | which one of blockers except for Mitaka support? | 16:19 |
| bookwar | aglarendil: we have risk of getting hundred of patches in upstream which we need to integrate before the Fuel Mitaka release. To address this risk we need to integrate patches one by one, as it is easier to debug. Yes, there is another risk of "blocking" development, but this are blocks which we should address before it is to late to integrate properly | 16:19 |
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| iberezovskiy | new openstack code, that should support, requires updates which are coming from puppet modules | 16:19 |
| ogelbukh_ | I think xarses makes the right point | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | okay, we did not get to the point | 16:19 |
| xarses | aglarendil: so you are making yourself available to update the manifests because they are out of date? | 16:19 |
| ogelbukh_ | not only fuel should be checked against puppet modules, but vice versa as well | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | of how make it satisfactory for everyone | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | nightly test which checks a set of commits | 16:20 |
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| aglarendil | a set of commits are being proposed to Puppetfile each day | 16:20 |
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| aglarendil | if they pass CI, we merge them and know exactly which commits are used | 16:20 |
| xarses | again, that moves the responsibility to too narrow of a group | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | in majority of cases we will have a lag of 1 day | 16:21 |
| alex_didenko | should we vote or something? | 16:21 |
| mwhahaha | why add a complex checking system with tag moving rather than just providing visible votes upstream? | 16:21 |
| iberezovskiy | aglarendil, who's gonna to prepare adapt patch in case of failures? | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | we do not move tags | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | we specify refs | 16:21 |
| xarses | if we are checking fuel on puppet-openstack changes, this problem is moot | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | the team responsible for puppet-openstack modules support in Fuel, obviously | 16:21 |
| angdraug | by my calculations, CI duty for tracking upstream modules is a lot less effort than what it replaces in major migrations to newer upstream modules in every Fuel release | 16:21 |
| mwhahaha | i don't understand the call to add more complexity to the system for something that is not that risky? You claim we should be using resources elsewhere, then lets stop trying to build complex systems | 16:21 |
| xarses | mwhahaha: +1 | 16:22 |
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| mihgen | let's take a step back and observe ideal picture for a second | 16:22 |
| mwhahaha | add visibility to fuel ci on upstream | 16:22 |
| mwhahaha | problem solved | 16:22 |
| xarses | besides, we have entered FF | 16:22 |
| mihgen | to me the one is to have fuel ci putting -1 on puppet-openstack if there is a bug | 16:22 |
| xarses | both sides should be calm | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | which they will ignore easily | 16:22 |
| mihgen | which is 100% cases should show bug in puppet-openstack | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | o, btw, last time I checked, this -1 was silent | 16:23 |
| xarses | aglarendil: no, by practice they don't | 16:23 |
| mihgen | and easy to debug | 16:23 |
| alex_didenko | guys, so two consequential runs of, let's say, noop tests could be different, because we've pulled different puppet-openstack manifests.. and two ISOs built within a hour could be different to. is it ok? | 16:23 |
| mwhahaha | if fuel -1's upstream, that's a break in backwards compatibility and upstream takes CI failures very seriously | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | there is no guarantee, that they will not ignore it | 16:23 |
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| angdraug | aglarendil: bookwar is enabling public comments from Fuel CI today | 16:23 |
| mwhahaha | more seriously then we do i might add | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | it is advisory | 16:23 |
| xarses | aglarendil: if we don't respond, yes they will ignore it | 16:23 |
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| angdraug | alex_didenko: yes, it is ok | 16:24 |
| holser_ | guys let’s move HEAD offline | 16:24 |
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| holser_ | let’s move on | 16:24 |
| xarses | but we've added lots of cross project CI in puppet-openstack, and respect it as best as possible, even when non-voting | 16:24 |
| angdraug | holser_: +1 | 16:24 |
| angdraug | this is a debate that should be held on ML | 16:24 |
| holser_ | I’ll talk to aglarendil with the actual analysis I did yesterday | 16:24 |
| angdraug | holser_: please also post it on ML | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: oh, common, than we have nothing to discuss here. I suggest, angdraug that you do troubleshooting by yourselves and see what the real pitfall is | 16:25 |
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| holser_ | aglarendil: let’s move on | 16:25 |
| holser_ | we have +5 topics | 16:25 |
| holser_ | so feature leads have to provide the status | 16:25 |
| xarses | #action holser_ to update ML on fuel-lib ci | 16:25 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: I suggest that you don't treat puppet-openstack as something we can't change | 16:25 |
| xarses | #action aglarendil to update ML on fuel-lib CI | 16:26 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: I suggest that we do not use 'fuzzy' things when we should verify and be certain | 16:26 |
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| xarses | moving on | 16:26 |
| xarses | #topic cross-project liaisons for Fuel https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons (angdraug) | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cross-project liaisons for Fuel https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons (angdraug) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:26 | |
| angdraug | I've registered our Infra cross-project liaisons in the official wiki: | 16:27 |
| angdraug | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Infra | 16:27 |
| angdraug | I think we should add more liaisons, at least for Puppet OpenStack project | 16:27 |
| angdraug | I propose mwhahaha as our liaison to Puppet OpenStack | 16:27 |
| angdraug | and I think degorenko can be Puppet OpenStack's liaison to Fuel, | 16:27 |
| angdraug | unless EmlienM would rather delegate this to someone else | 16:27 |
| angdraug | objections? other projects we need liaisons with? | 16:27 |
| xarses | angdraug: I thought we needed to reduce overlap with trippleo's API | 16:27 |
| xarses | so someone there? | 16:28 |
| angdraug | good point. any volunteers? | 16:28 |
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| xarses | and what about Baron? | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | we have a topic for austin about our own API and versioning | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | ikalnitsky: you're listed as session lead for the API session | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | I think investigating possibilities for reducing overlap with TripleO should be part of the prep for this session | 16:29 |
| angdraug | xarses: you mean Bareon? | 16:29 |
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| xarses | probably | 16:30 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: i didn't get quite well. tripleo and api? | 16:30 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: sorry, i missed a lot of conversation due to red master and trying to make it green | 16:30 |
| angdraug | in short, when Fuel's Big Tent application was discussed in TC, | 16:30 |
| angdraug | it was brought up that our Nailgun API has a functional overlap with Tuskar API from TripleO | 16:30 |
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| angdraug | we should investigate how much overlap there really is and see what we can do to reduce it | 16:31 |
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| xarses | in that they can overlap in implmentation | 16:31 |
| xarses | but not in spec | 16:31 |
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| ikalnitsky | angdraug: ok, got it. thank you for pointing that | 16:31 |
| ikalnitsky | i'll investigate that | 16:31 |
| ogelbukh_ | btw, is the sessions submission for summit open already? | 16:31 |
| ogelbukh_ | I mean design summit, not conference | 16:32 |
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| xarses | ogelbukh_: we went over them weeks ago https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-austin-agenda | 16:32 |
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| angdraug | I've submitted our ask for space based on the link ^ | 16:32 |
| xarses | I think we've already asked for space for a short list of this | 16:33 |
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| angdraug | before we move on, anyone wants to comment about liaisons for Bareon? | 16:33 |
| szaher | $ git branch | 16:34 |
| szaher | * (detached from origin/stable/kilo) | 16:34 |
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| ogelbukh_ | OK, need to follow the MLs closer :( | 16:34 |
| szaher | sorry ! | 16:34 |
| xarses | evgenyl: ? | 16:34 |
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| evgenyl | xarses: sorry, what is the question? | 16:34 |
| angdraug | I have a feeling Bareon team is too small for now to bother with official liaisons between them and Fuel | 16:35 |
| xarses | "<angdraug> before we move on, anyone wants to comment about liaisons for Bareon?" | 16:35 |
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| evgenyl | I'm leading this activity. | 16:36 |
| angdraug | evgenyl: do you mind being listed as our official liaison to Bareon? | 16:37 |
| mihgen | what is eta of switching to bareon in fuel btw? | 16:37 |
| evgenyl | angdraug: np | 16:37 |
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| evgenyl | mihgen: as usual, the work will be done in 10.0 timeframe. | 16:37 |
| mihgen | I hope not 1 day before FF :P | 16:38 |
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| evgenyl | mihgen: we will do our best to make if faster. | 16:38 |
| angdraug | there's no official newton schedule yet, but based on previous cycles FF is going to be in August | 16:38 |
| mihgen | xarses: angdraug folks many things in the agenda | 16:38 |
| angdraug | lets move on | 16:38 |
| xarses | #topic PTL & CL Elections http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088609.html (xarses) | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL & CL Elections http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088609.html (xarses) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:39 | |
| xarses | This is just a note, that the elections are starting | 16:39 |
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| xarses | Nominations for PTL start tomorrow | 16:39 |
| xarses | #topic bit.ly/1RD6JLR - stuck reviews. 16 of them are new features-related (mihgen) | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bit.ly/1RD6JLR - stuck reviews. 16 of them are new features-related (mihgen) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:39 | |
| mihgen | highlighting your attention to this. angdraug - your help is needed here to assign people to review specs | 16:40 |
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| mihgen | a few patches to fuel-devops, nurla - can you help to move them forward? | 16:40 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen: i think we need to ask ddmitriev to watch fuel-devops | 16:41 |
| ikalnitsky | he's an active core and contributor | 16:41 |
| mihgen | there are several from other repos. Please take a look folks and poke people around to whether move them further or abandon | 16:41 |
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| mihgen | that's it on this topic | 16:41 |
| xarses | #topic UI Team status (vkramskikh) | 16:41 |
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| vkramskikh | Hi! Here is our status for 9.0 features, only 2 of them aren't finished: | 16:41 |
| vkramskikh | 1) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/remove-vendor-code - no vendor code left in the upstream; as for downstream, we're fighting with CI issues - tests won't pass because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1549750 . Any help from python guys would be appreciated. | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1549750 in Fuel for OpenStack "Async tasks (cluster deletion, resetting, snapshot generation) sometimes fail" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alexander Kislitsky (akislitsky) | 16:41 |
| vkramskikh | 2) NFV stuff - implementations for node attributes (for Nova and DPDK CPU pinning) and NUMA topology representation are merged, though we've got FFE and decided to make some visual improvements and refactoring there; interface screen changes are on review - we expect them to be merged by Monday. | 16:41 |
| vkramskikh | We still haven't switch to bugfixing and plan to start from the next week. | 16:41 |
| vkramskikh | Questions? | 16:41 |
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| xarses | thanks vkramskikh | 16:43 |
| xarses | #topic Fuel-mixed team status (zynzel/bkupidura) | 16:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fuel-mixed team status (zynzel/bkupidura) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:43 | |
| zynzel | Fuel-mixed team is working on fuel-library ensurability/idempotency and multipath feature | 16:43 |
| zynzel | Idempotency, 2 changes left in review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290340/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290915/ | 16:44 |
| zynzel | We need to work on CI/jenkins part. | 16:44 |
| zynzel | Multipath feature was merged, but we found a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1555664 currently we are investigating | 16:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555664 in Fuel for OpenStack "provision with multipath device fails randomly" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sergey Slipushenko (sslypushenko) | 16:44 |
| zynzel | That's all folks | 16:44 |
| xarses | zynzel: thanks, do you have a path forward on that bug? | 16:44 |
| zynzel | no, currently guys are trying to found root cause | 16:45 |
| xarses | #topic Enhancements Team status (ashtokolov) | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Enhancements Team status (ashtokolov) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:45 | |
| ashtokolov | Hi | 16:45 |
| ashtokolov | We are working on: | 16:45 |
| ashtokolov | 1. Custom graph execution - Good Progress (core part - merged or on review, API + CLI - WIP) | 16:45 |
| ashtokolov | 2. Versioning storage for serialised cluster data and cluster settings - In progress | 16:46 |
| ashtokolov | 3. Data-driven decision which tasks should be run during redeployment (YAQL) - In progress | 16:46 |
| ashtokolov | 4. Store Deployment Tasks Execution History in DB - Good Progress (core part - on review, API + CLI - WIP) | 16:46 |
| ashtokolov | 5. Deployment Tasks idempotence with Fuel Mixed Team - Good Progress | 16:46 |
| ashtokolov | That's all | 16:46 |
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| xarses | ashtokolov: in good shape for meeting the FFE deadline? | 16:47 |
| ashtokolov | yes, we are on track | 16:47 |
| xarses | thanks | 16:48 |
| xarses | #topic FFE exception update for Enable UCA repositories for deployment (mattymo) | 16:48 |
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| holser_ | 10 minutes ;) | 16:48 |
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| mattymo` | Hi xarses | 16:48 |
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| angdraug | mattymo`: you've asked for FFE until today | 16:49 |
| mattymo` | I didn't manage with the holidays and unstable UCA repo state to get a fully passed custom system test. The code really works, but we've got intermittent CI failures all over fuel web and fuel library now | 16:49 |
| angdraug | are all your commits merged? | 16:49 |
| mattymo` | so I would like to report, that my feature will not land in 9.0 as a result | 16:50 |
| mattymo` | it's ready, but because of CI, it will not land and I will wait until SCF and resubmit for 10.0 | 16:50 |
| mihgen | :( | 16:50 |
| angdraug | CI ate your commits. got it. | 16:50 |
| angdraug | xarses: lets move on | 16:51 |
| xarses | #topic Fuel network team status (alex_didenko) | 16:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fuel network team status (alex_didenko) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:51 | |
| alex_didenko | Fuel network team status per feature: | 16:51 |
| alex_didenko | Allow any VIP: bugfixing | 16:51 |
| alex_didenko | External LB: working on another plugin for automated tests under swarm runner | 16:51 |
| alex_didenko | SR-IOV: all the patches except UI are merged already. We're still checking into some possible issues/bugs though | 16:51 |
| alex_didenko | DPDK: all the needed patches are on review | 16:51 |
| alex_didenko | We're not expecting any delays in the current schedule/FFE | 16:51 |
| xarses | alex_didenko: thanks | 16:51 |
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| xarses | #topic Fuel Telco Team Status (fzhadaev) | 16:52 |
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| fzhadaev | My update will be short. | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | Our two main activities for now are: | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | 1) Finishing work on NFV features (features status was provided by alex_didenko) | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | 2) Fixing bugs | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | NFV features, which was not presented yet: | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | NUMA+CPU Pinning - all patches are on review (2) | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | Huge Pages - all patches are on review (4) | 16:52 |
| fzhadaev | Do you have any questions? | 16:52 |
| xarses | are you on track to make your FFE deadline? | 16:52 |
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| fzhadaev | I think yes | 16:52 |
| xarses | good to hear, thanks | 16:52 |
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| xarses | #topic Bugfix team status (dpyzhov) | 16:53 |
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| dpyzhov | hi | 16:54 |
| dpyzhov | I have only several minutes left so I'd like to highlight that we have growing number of tech-debt bugs related to tests and CI | 16:54 |
| dpyzhov | it is the main concern and we should focus on this | 16:54 |
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| dpyzhov | Other things: we are pretty good with high priority bugs | 16:55 |
| dpyzhov | And have no progress with medium bugs | 16:55 |
| mihgen | are we tagging somehow ci-related bugs? | 16:56 |
| mihgen | so to see them all quickly? | 16:56 |
| dpyzhov | tech-debt, high/critical priority | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | not all tech-debt are ci related | 16:56 |
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| dpyzhov | you are right. we have no special filter for tests | 16:57 |
| xarses | dpyzhov: can we add a tag then | 16:57 |
| dpyzhov | but most of high priority tech debts are about tests | 16:57 |
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| dpyzhov | xarses: do we really need one? | 16:57 |
| xarses | do we have a area-ci one? | 16:57 |
| xarses | we can combine the two then? | 16:57 |
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| dpyzhov | we have only 16 bugs in area-python with tech-debt tag | 16:58 |
| bookwar | xarses: we have area-ci tag, but i doubt dpyzhov means the same by 'ci-related bugs' here | 16:58 |
| dpyzhov | I think it is still manageable to find test-related bugs here | 16:58 |
| xarses | yes, but the tag helps with reporting later | 16:58 |
| xarses | lets think about it | 16:59 |
| xarses | anything else? | 16:59 |
| dpyzhov | Actually, we should start watching our tests health | 16:59 |
| dpyzhov | But it is rather big topic | 16:59 |
| dpyzhov | nothing else from my side | 16:59 |
| xarses | thanks | 16:59 |
| xarses | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 17:00:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-03-10-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-03-10-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-03-10-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| mihgen | dpyzhov: tests/ci failures is very important, please make suggestions.. | 17:00 |
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| lhinds | hello SEC peeps | 17:00 |
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| ccneill | o/ | 17:00 |
| mvaldes | o/ | 17:01 |
| singlethink | hey | 17:01 |
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| browne | o/ | 17:01 |
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| michaelxin | o/ | 17:02 |
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| cjschaef | hi | 17:02 |
| diazjf | 0/ | 17:02 |
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| mdong | o/ | 17:03 |
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| lhinds | <taps foot> | 17:05 |
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| michaelxin | Rob and Tim might not be here. | 17:05 |
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| redrobot | o/ | 17:06 |
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| * redrobot twiddles thumbs | 17:07 | |
| redrobot | diazjf guess there's no OSSP meeting today then... | 17:08 |
| diazjf | redrobot, guess, so……. | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | is there no else who can chair? | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | just until the guys get here | 17:08 |
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| michaelxin | I have never done it before. | 17:10 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:10 |
| michaelxin | Not sure about how? | 17:10 |
| lhinds | i think its just a case of hash startmeeting for meetbot | 17:10 |
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| lhinds | and then go through an agenda | 17:10 |
| lhinds | let me see if I can find last weeks | 17:10 |
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| mvaldes | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-20160310-agenda | 17:11 |
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| ccneill | meeting hijacking in 3... 2... 1... | 17:12 |
| ccneill | #startmeeting | 17:12 |
| openstack | ccneill: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 17:12 |
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| lhinds | good man | 17:12 |
| ccneill | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Project | 17:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 17:12:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ccneill. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:12 |
| redrobot | ccneill #startmeeting security | 17:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_project' | 17:12 |
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| ccneill | derp.. | 17:12 |
| lhinds | thanks ccneill | 17:12 |
| michaelxin | mvaldes: +1 | 17:12 |
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| ccneill | so.. Anchor :D | 17:12 |
| ccneill | sorry, getting ahead of myself. summit planning. | 17:13 |
| diazjf | Summit Planning :) :) | 17:13 |
| ccneill | #topic Summit Planning | 17:13 |
| mvaldes | #topic Summit Planning | 17:13 |
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| redrobot | ccneill for future reference the name ends up being used for the directory where the logs are stored. For consistency this meeting should use "security" | 17:13 |
| krotscheck | o/ | 17:13 |
| redrobot | ccneill http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/ | 17:13 |
| ccneill | redrobot: dang, knew I got that wrong. thanks for the heads-up >< | 17:13 |
| ccneill | anyone have anything on summit planning? | 17:14 |
| michaelxin | Did everyone already register for the summit? | 17:14 |
| redrobot | yes, has anyone submitted the BYOK spec for the cross-project track? | 17:14 |
| michaelxin | The early bird price will end tomorrow. | 17:14 |
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| diazjf | ccneill, I wanted to talk about BYOK | 17:14 |
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| ccneill | well, I think you have the floor :) | 17:14 |
| redrobot | if not picked for cross-project, I'd like to see BYOK be a fishbowl | 17:14 |
| krotscheck | All I have is that a threat analysis session on CORS was proposed. | 17:14 |
| diazjf | I have a spec up for BYOK | 17:15 |
| diazjf | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271517/ | 17:15 |
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| ccneill | krotscheck: I've been meaning to take a look at the CORS stuff some more. is there a CR or something up for that re: security? | 17:15 |
| mvaldes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271517/ | 17:16 |
| krotscheck | ccneill: Not certain what you mean. There's patches in all of the various API's? | 17:17 |
| michaelxin | From last time, the agreement is to have a threat modeling session for CORs | 17:17 |
| ccneill | krotscheck: sorry, I was just wondering if there was an explicit action item for OSSP to review CORS | 17:17 |
| ccneill | all I've seen is the spec | 17:17 |
| ccneill | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/cors-support.html | 17:17 |
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| ccneill | is your concern individual implementations for each project? or the implementation in general | 17:18 |
| krotscheck | ccneill: All i know is the discussion from last week about "Hey, we should do a Thread Analysis at the summit, that'd be a neat exercise" | 17:18 |
| ccneill | krotscheck: gotcha. agreed! | 17:18 |
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| * krotscheck won't really have much time to organize it, but is willing to be there as an expert on the spec. | 17:19 | |
| krotscheck | (The W3C spec that is) | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | There might not be too much to talk besides implementation | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | The spec is solid. | 17:20 |
| ccneill | cool, well I think I'll leave the duty of officially setting up that session to our friend hyakuhei since I'm not even doing a great job running this meeting ;) | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | The implementation is key | 17:20 |
| michaelxin | Bad implementation will have big impact. | 17:20 |
| ccneill | ok, anything else for summit? | 17:21 |
| ccneill | going once.. | 17:21 |
| michaelxin | Not sure | 17:21 |
| ccneill | cool, Anchor time | 17:21 |
| ccneill | #topic Anchor | 17:21 |
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| ccneill | redrobot? anyone else? | 17:21 |
| michaelxin | let's move on | 17:22 |
| ccneill | cool | 17:22 |
| ccneill | #topic Bandit | 17:22 |
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| michaelxin | Tim? | 17:22 |
| ccneill | hmm | 17:22 |
| ccneill | no tmcpeak it appears | 17:22 |
| lhinds | I have something quickly.. | 17:23 |
| ccneill | anyone else have Bandit news? | 17:23 |
| ccneill | cool | 17:23 |
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| browne | so on bandit | 17:23 |
| lhinds | request was made to put some release notes together, so I digged out a format I have used before, and apache F releases typically go for | 17:23 |
| lhinds | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/489522/ | 17:23 |
| browne | i've been trying to fix projects to get rid of bandit.yaml | 17:23 |
| lhinds | not sure if this is what we want, here is a live example | 17:24 |
| lhinds | #link https://db.apache.org/ojb/release-notes.txt | 17:24 |
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| lhinds | so its a rolling release note | 17:24 |
| ccneill | browne: has YAML-free config landed in the version PyPI is shipping now? | 17:24 |
| michaelxin | browne: What's your take about lhinds's release note? | 17:24 |
| lhinds | you add each new release and it stays in the project root | 17:24 |
| ccneill | lhinds: is this related to / in the same format as "reno"? | 17:24 |
| ccneill | this thing | 17:25 |
| browne | ccneill: not totally until 1.0, but most projects can get away without it. so been changing that | 17:25 |
| ccneill | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/ | 17:25 |
| lhinds | I don't know what reno is yet :S | 17:25 |
| browne | and putting bandit in the pep8 testenv | 17:25 |
| ccneill | lhinds: it came up last week when we were talking about release notes, but I'm not familiar with it either | 17:25 |
| browne | the integration test is still failing so, i'm still working to fix projects and bandit | 17:25 |
| lhinds | ahh I see, so looks like we have a format already | 17:25 |
| michaelxin | browne: +1 | 17:25 |
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| cjschaef | browne: the problem I have with bandit in the pep8 testenv, is when bandit checks for dirty repo's | 17:26 |
| ccneill | browne: cool cool. what projects are you working with at this point? | 17:26 |
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| browne | ccneill: mainly focused on the ones in our integration test that are broken | 17:26 |
| browne | so magnum, magnum client, etc | 17:27 |
| ccneill | Designate was interested in implementing it, but I told them to hold off til 1.0 to land for the YAML-free config | 17:27 |
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| browne | cjschaef: yeah, not sure i like it in pep8 either, but think infra wants to cut down on the number of jenkins jobs | 17:27 |
| cjschaef | browne: that makes sense, and I wasn't thinking of gates initially too | 17:28 |
| ccneill | browne / cjschaef: do you think it might be worthwhile/feasible to propose a "security" gate job? | 17:28 |
| ccneill | including bandit, syntribos, other tools to come? | 17:28 |
| browne | ccneill: we'd have to run it by infra, but sounds good to me once we have these other sec scans (syntribos) running | 17:29 |
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| cjschaef | ccneill: I like that idea, and agree with browne on getting those tools ready first | 17:29 |
| ccneill | mdong and I will be working on Syntribos more starting next week | 17:29 |
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| mvaldes | nice idea | 17:30 |
| ccneill | so we'll definitely keep everyone posted as we go | 17:30 |
| browne | ccneill: cool. is there a guinea pig project you'll start with? keystone? | 17:30 |
| ccneill | browne: so we've been testing it internally on Solum | 17:31 |
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| ccneill | I think we're kind of using that as our guinea pig, and then we'll go from there | 17:31 |
| michaelxin | After Solum, it will be keystone. | 17:31 |
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| browne | xool | 17:31 |
| browne | cool | 17:31 |
| ccneill | what he said ^ :) | 17:32 |
| ccneill | cool, anything else on bandit? | 17:32 |
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| ccneill | going once.. | 17:32 |
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| ccneill | cool | 17:33 |
| ccneill | #topic Docs | 17:33 |
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| ccneill | so I know I said I'd try to get a changelog going for bandit last week... unfortunately, I didn't have time this week | 17:33 |
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| ccneill | but I will have a lot more time for OSSP-related projects starting next week | 17:34 |
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| michaelxin | eelmiko? | 17:34 |
| ccneill | for the foreseeable future | 17:34 |
| ccneill | _elmiko ? | 17:34 |
| michaelxin | elmiko? | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | Hey. Sorry. Crazy morning - accident in seattle | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko can’t make it today. | 17:34 |
| ccneill | oh no | 17:34 |
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| lhinds | ccneill I can help with anything you might have that needs doing | 17:34 |
| lhinds | inbetween jobs just now | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | unrelated (accident and elmiko) | 17:34 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: well, hope everyone's okay | 17:35 |
| lhinds | + 1 | 17:35 |
| michaelxin | sorry to hear it | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | ccneill: Not sure. Traffic was closed for a long time. | 17:35 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: you want to take over? I'm not great at this whole chairing thing | 17:35 |
| michaelxin | hope everyone is fine. | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | Who’s chairing the meeting today? | 17:35 |
| ccneill | o/ | 17:35 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: ccneill | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | excellent! Thank you ccneill | 17:36 |
| michaelxin | he is doing great so far. | 17:36 |
| mvaldes | doing a stand-up job | 17:36 |
| ccneill | no problem. we're on Docs | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | Please keep on rolling :) | 17:36 |
| michaelxin | ccneill: move on next topic | 17:36 |
| ccneill | lhinds: I'll look into this reno thing next week and I'll post it in os-sec if I come up with anything | 17:36 |
| ccneill | okay | 17:36 |
| ccneill | moving on | 17:37 |
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| ccneill | #topic Syntribos | 17:37 |
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| michaelxin | mdong: Can give detailed updates. | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | btw most of the HP people are in meeting this morning | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | (annual onsite this week) | 17:37 |
| mdong | So as ccneill said earlier we’re gonna dedicate more time to Syntribos | 17:37 |
| michaelxin | For resrouces, ccneill and mdong will work almost full time on syntribos | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | That’s awesome! | 17:38 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: gotcha. we realized how much we miss you all when you're not around this morning! :) | 17:38 |
| michaelxin | We are also expecting two more developers from Intel joining the project. | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | awwww | 17:38 |
| mvaldes | +1 | 17:38 |
| michaelxin | Still working on it. | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | That’s very cool | 17:38 |
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| ccneill | lots of big ideas for Syntribos :) | 17:38 |
| michaelxin | Now, mdong is testing Solum using Syntribos | 17:39 |
| ccneill | off the top of my head, we'll probably try to rip out the CAFE pieces to make it more palatable to OS projects | 17:39 |
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| michaelxin | He is working on some payload generation stuff. | 17:39 |
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| mdong | we’ll be testing Solum as a guinea pig, which hopefully will be a learning experience about how the tool can be improved | 17:40 |
| michaelxin | There is a blueprint about payload automatic generation. | 17:40 |
| nsun1 | wiki for Syntribos? | 17:40 |
| ccneill | michaelxin: do you have the link for that BP? | 17:41 |
| mdong | there’s no syntribos wiki yet | 17:41 |
| mdong | but all our blueprints can be found at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/syntribos | 17:41 |
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| mvaldes | where do we put a wiki? | 17:41 |
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| ccneill | mdong / michaelxin: I see the "create-payloads-cinder/glance/keystone/etc" BPs | 17:41 |
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| mvaldes | nsun1: just this so far https://github.com/openstack/syntribos | 17:42 |
| michaelxin | That will be a good action item for ccneill and mdong | 17:42 |
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| ccneill | ah | 17:42 |
| ccneill | this? | 17:42 |
| ccneill | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/syntribos/+spec/research-ways-to-generate-payload | 17:42 |
| michaelxin | ccneill: yes | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | It’s really great to see this moving forward, I especially like that Intel will be getting involved too. Making it more than just “that Rackspace thing” will be great for addoption. Not that I don’t appreciate all the work Rack is doing. | 17:42 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:42 |
| mvaldes | +1 | 17:42 |
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| mvaldes | also thanks to browne for helping review some of the CR's | 17:43 |
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| michaelxin | ccneill: That's all for syntribos | 17:43 |
| michaelxin | move on please | 17:43 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: brought this up earlier, but would like your thoughts | 17:43 |
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| nsun1 | sure | 17:43 |
| ccneill | do you think it makes sense for us to propose a "security" gate, running bandit + syntribos + future tools(?) | 17:43 |
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| ccneill | browne mentioned infra was trying to cut down on Jenkins jobs, so I figured it might make sense to consolidate at some point | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | I think I’d prefer it to be compositional _but_ we can certainly create white papers on best practice combinations and perhaps even offer that as a bundle. So long as that bundle isn’t the _only_ way to use Syntribos/Bandit etc | 17:44 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: compositional? so jobs for each project? | 17:45 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: I agree, shouldn't be the only way to implement it, but would set bar for total adoption pretty low | 17:46 |
| ccneill | in any case, we can probably hold off until Syntribos is in a more finished state | 17:46 |
| ccneill | since we only have Bandit at the moment | 17:46 |
| ccneill | okay, moving on unless anyone has more on Syntribos? | 17:47 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288150/ still shows Needs Workflow | 17:47 |
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| michaelxin | What do we need to get the CR move on? Thanks. | 17:47 |
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| ccneill | did we lose everyone? | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | michaelxin: I’ll check now | 17:48 |
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| michaelxin | hyakuhei: Thanks. | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | ok I’ll poke $people | 17:49 |
| ccneill | #topic Publicity | 17:49 |
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| hyakuhei | I can’t +2 | 17:49 |
| ccneill | anything for Publicity? | 17:49 |
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| michaelxin | hyakuhei: who should we include for +2? Thanks. | 17:49 |
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| hyakuhei | michaelxin: that ’s what I need to find out | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | ttx: ^ Any idea? | 17:50 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: cool, Thanks. | 17:50 |
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| ccneill | anything on publicity? got ~8 minutes | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | I don’t think that’s moved anywhere since last week | 17:51 |
| michaelxin | ccneill: Do you still have friends in UT-Austin? | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | I did ask for budget for cool swag at the summit | 17:52 |
| mvaldes | we did an internal tech talk and gave OSSP another plug | 17:52 |
| ccneill | cool, yeah I guess we're waiting on bandit 1.0 | 17:52 |
| ccneill | hyakuhei: nice | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | mvaldes: cool! | 17:52 |
| ccneill | michaelxin: not really? :\ I'm an old man | 17:52 |
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| michaelxin | haha | 17:52 |
| michaelxin | Maybe, we can ask professor Matt T | 17:52 |
| ccneill | haha yes! | 17:52 |
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| ccneill | ok, moving on | 17:53 |
| ccneill | #topic OSSN | 17:53 |
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| ccneill | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/security-doc,n,z | 17:53 |
| ccneill | any movement here? | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | Seems to have stalled out a little. I’ll see if I can get a spring on that in the next few days. | 17:53 |
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| michaelxin | we only have three | 17:54 |
| michaelxin | it is good | 17:54 |
| ccneill | ok cool | 17:55 |
| ccneill | sounds like we have that on lock | 17:55 |
| ccneill | #topic Blog | 17:55 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah, we just need to clear them out, some are a little bit old. | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | It’s still going forward, we need to get some more content in there though :) | 17:55 |
| ccneill | how's the blog? any posts you want eyes on, hyakuhei ? | 17:55 |
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| ccneill | we can probably get a blog post together about Syntribos in the coming weeks | 17:56 |
| hyakuhei | The TA one needs some polish | 17:56 |
| ccneill | e.g. a guide on how to use it, or what is different about it | 17:56 |
| michaelxin | ccneill: +1 | 17:56 |
| hyakuhei | https://openstack-security.github.io/threatanalysis/2016/02/07/anchorTA.html | 17:56 |
| hyakuhei | ccneill: great idea | 17:56 |
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| ccneill | hyakuhei: yeah, I liked this post. where do you do review? | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | github | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | https://github.com/openstack-security/openstack-security.github.io | 17:57 |
| ccneill | ah so just do a PR on the post? gotcha\ | 17:57 |
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| ccneill | I'll try to add some thoughts, though I think this is a pretty solid start already | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, standard Github workflow I guess :) | 17:57 |
| ccneill | ok 2 minutes | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks ccneill | 17:58 |
| ccneill | #topic CORS | 17:58 |
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| ccneill | sorry we didn't save much time for this diazjf | 17:58 |
| ccneill | oops, I mean krotscheck | 17:58 |
| krotscheck | Now orries :) | 17:58 |
| krotscheck | yay 2 minutes! | 17:58 |
| ccneill | yay! good news is, I won't be chair next week :) | 17:59 |
| ccneill | so we'll probably actually get to it | 17:59 |
| krotscheck | So, what'll it take to get a fishbowl at the summit? | 17:59 |
| krotscheck | (tick tock tick tock) | 17:59 |
| ccneill | let's take it to #openstack-security | 17:59 |
| ccneill | think we gotta wrap up here | 17:59 |
| ccneill | thanks, all! | 17:59 |
| ccneill | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| diazjf | ccneill, hyakuhei, quick question, will there be a fishbowl on BYOK? I can start setting up a PPT if there will be one. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 18:00:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| michaelxin | good job | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_project/2016/openstack_security_project.2016-03-10-17.12.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_project/2016/openstack_security_project.2016-03-10-17.12.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_project/2016/openstack_security_project.2016-03-10-17.12.log.html | 18:00 |
| michaelxin | bye | 18:00 |
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| diazjf | hyakuhei, ccneill, I'll go to #openstack-security | 18:00 |
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| ttx | hyakuhei: I'm on it | 21:08 |
| hyakuhei | Thank you! | 21:09 |
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