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| dirk | toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka: ping | 13:01 |
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| IgorYozhikov | o/ | 13:01 |
| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 13:01:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:01 |
| toabctl | hi | 13:01 |
| mivanov | hi | 13:02 |
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| dirk | please add your topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:02 |
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| toabctl | and please add your names (top right corner) to the etherpad | 13:03 |
| toabctl | or at the end of the topic | 13:03 |
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| dirk | can we start? | 13:06 |
| dirk | anything missing? | 13:06 |
| * IgorYozhikov bbs @ 5 min, start please | 13:06 | |
| dirk | #topic maintaining a global-requirements and remove all versions from specs? (toabctl) | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "maintaining a global-requirements and remove all versions from specs? (toabctl) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:06 | |
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| dirk | imho yes.. do we need to discuss it ? :) | 13:08 |
| dirk | I guess you want to discuss how to do it - if we want to double check for differences ? | 13:08 |
| toabctl | I wanted to know where to maintain the file. so should we just add it to the root of rpm-packaging git repo? | 13:08 |
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| toabctl | and also, should we just copy the file from requirements git repo in the beginning? | 13:10 |
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| number80 | hello | 13:11 |
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| dirk | hey number80 , welcome | 13:11 |
| dirk | toabctl: IMHO it should be in the root, yes | 13:12 |
| toabctl | hey number80 | 13:12 |
| toabctl | ok. so agreed on it? | 13:12 |
| dirk | toabctl: but whats the nameing? do we call it requirements.txt ? | 13:12 |
| dirk | its not really runtime requirements overall I guess | 13:12 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, GR in root like autosync results? | 13:13 |
| toabctl | it can not be called requirements.txt . that would be missleading | 13:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | GR - global-requirements | 13:13 |
| dirk | toabctl: I think we need to find a new name that is not taken already by update scriptlet | 13:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | just get back | 13:13 |
| toabctl | maybe versions.txt | 13:13 |
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| IgorYozhikov | requirements for particular projects could have more information related to project than global-requirements | 13:15 |
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| toabctl | true | 13:15 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, am I right that we are discussing - how to use requirements feature withing CI/automation, right? | 13:16 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: we are discussing where we want to maintain for now a "global-requiremts" file and what name that file should have | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | because in manual mode - I just download requirements from github/project | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | sync requirements from projects repos to root of template folder - could solve this, but it should be made by some kind of CI job| bot | 13:18 |
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| toabctl | that doesn't help. some projects use setup.cfg to define requirements | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, this is true | 13:19 |
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| toabctl | and all (setup.cfg, requirements.txt) are synced from the global-requirements.txt file | 13:20 |
| toabctl | I explcitly asked in #openstack-olso about the setup.cfg a couple of days ago | 13:20 |
| dirk | so canwe as a first start just copy global-requirements.txt under that name? | 13:21 |
| toabctl | so my suggestion would be that we just sync a single file. downstream (suse, miratin, redhat, ...) can be more fingrained if needed with requirements | 13:21 |
| dirk | if I understand the the current update.py job, you can somehow configure which files it syncs to | 13:21 |
| dirk | so we'd need to list it in the project and be done with that | 13:21 |
| toabctl | but I think that if adjustments are needed, it's usually an upstream bug | 13:21 |
| toabctl | dirk: I think that's it. yes | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, toabctl - autosync via proposal bot, right? | 13:22 |
| toabctl | I guess we need to add an initial file to our repo | 13:22 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: yes | 13:22 |
| IgorYozhikov | cool | 13:22 |
| toabctl | so again the questing - how should we call that file? :) | 13:22 |
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| dirk | my vote is global-requirements.txt if we can configure the proposal bot to use that name | 13:24 |
| dirk | if I understand the code correctly (just looking at it) it is configurable | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | if it will synchronized - do we need a special name? just trying to understand - for what purpose rename is required | 13:24 |
| toabctl | global-requirements.txt is fine for m | 13:24 |
| toabctl | e | 13:24 |
| number80 | ack | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | +1 | 13:24 |
| toabctl | I'm just against the name requirements.txt | 13:24 |
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| IgorYozhikov | cool, let's leave it as GR | 13:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | global-requirements.txt | 13:25 |
| toabctl | who's taking the action to create the sync PR and the initial file (if needed) | 13:25 |
| dirk | toabctl: and test-requirements I guess? | 13:25 |
| dirk | it looks like it is not configurable | 13:25 |
| toabctl | hm.yeah. test-requirements.txt , too | 13:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, test-requirements - for further usage like for Build time reqs | 13:26 |
| dirk | #agreed use global-requirements.txt for the copy of the global requirements | 13:26 |
| toabctl | but there again I'm against that name. having a test-requirements.txt in root usually means that this file is used for testing (with pip) | 13:26 |
| dirk | AI: add initial copy, implement proposal bot sync at a later point | 13:26 |
| dirk | #action add initial copy, implement proposal bot sync at a later point | 13:26 |
| dirk | toabctl: yeap. looks like we need to extend the usecase of the proposal bot syncing script and implement updating of the global-requirements.txt file | 13:27 |
| dirk | shouldn't be difficult with CI integration, this is rather nice (we can fix stuff before things explode) | 13:27 |
| toabctl | yeah | 13:27 |
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| dirk | next topic? | 13:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | yep | 13:28 |
| dirk | #topic Common spec formatting | 13:28 |
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| dirk | one thing I noticed while reviewing spec file templates recently is that we seem to have different indentation / tag ordering rules | 13:29 |
| IgorYozhikov | indents key: value? | 13:29 |
| dirk | I was wondering if we can agree on a common order (SUSE has a policy checker for that, we could integrate it) or if we want to keep it free form | 13:30 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, agree, let's figure out optimal indentation and I'll post it to wiki page | 13:30 |
| dirk | e.g. we have a defined order between Name: Version: Epoch: BuildRequires and so on | 13:30 |
| dirk | and indentation | 13:30 |
| toabctl | a checker job would be better that wiki, imo | 13:30 |
| dirk | yeah, its on my pet projects .. | 13:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, yes, also will be a big plus to run rpm lint after rendering stage | 13:31 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: rpmlint is part of the SUSE CI job already.. | 13:31 |
| dirk | but we only fail the job on very distinct (bad) errors | 13:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, great | 13:32 |
| number80 | yes, the same for me | 13:32 |
| dirk | regarding the spec formatting | 13:32 |
| dirk | compare https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Cloud:OpenStack:Factory/python-keystoneclient/python-keystoneclient.spec?expand=1 | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | so, sounds that spec.j2 linter required aka pep8 | 13:32 |
| dirk | with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290472/5/openstack/python-keystoneclient/python-keystoneclient.spec.j2 | 13:32 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: yeah.. we have a thing called "spec-cleaner" that enforces a standard style | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes, I saw that | 13:33 |
| dirk | we could easily check whether there is a diff and add a job that fails the jenkins check then (as part of the existing lint job) | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, where to "buy" this cleaner? :) | 13:33 |
| dirk | but I'm not sure if the template formatting is something where people have strong opinions about it | 13:33 |
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| IgorYozhikov | or it is publicly available? | 13:34 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: there are two implementations: spec-cleaner is here: https://github.com/openSUSE/spec-cleaner | 13:34 |
| toabctl | oh. it's even python :) | 13:35 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, thanx a lot. will look though | 13:35 |
| dirk | and the 2nd one is here: https://github.com/openSUSE/obs-service-format_spec_file | 13:35 |
| dirk | one perl one python | 13:36 |
| dirk | spec-cleaner is slightly better (newer) | 13:36 |
| dirk | the other one is deprecated | 13:36 |
| IgorYozhikov | as I know obs - is some kind of perl | 13:36 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: not really. OBS is a plethora of implementation languages :) | 13:36 |
| IgorYozhikov | I am about a lot of scripts, that are under the hood | 13:37 |
| dirk | ok, so what did we agree on, having a common spec formatting ? | 13:37 |
| dirk | so next step would be to write the checker job? | 13:37 |
| toabctl | +1 common spec formatting | 13:37 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, at first might be good to determine values for indentation, etc | 13:38 |
| dirk | or next step is to come up with a common formatting ? | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | agree on formatting | 13:38 |
| dirk | number80: any opinion? | 13:39 |
| number80 | +1 for common formaating | 13:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | I could made 2 -3 variants of j2s for discussion | 13:39 |
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| IgorYozhikov | thought? | 13:40 |
| dirk | works for me | 13:40 |
| dirk | #agreed we should have unified spec template style (ordering, indentation) | 13:41 |
| dirk | #action come up with proposals for unified spec style | 13:41 |
| Cristina | Hi! | 13:41 |
| toabctl | hi Cristina | 13:41 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, so AI on me of for whom? | 13:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | hi Cristina | 13:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | s/of/or/ | 13:42 |
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| dirk | hi Cristina | 13:43 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: I guess for all.. but if noone else volunteers, its for you :) | 13:43 |
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| dirk | suse has a pretty rigid style so whatever we come up with its going to be reformatted to that style anyway | 13:43 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, :) | 13:43 |
| dirk | so it is one of the options.. since the code for that is already there | 13:44 |
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| dirk | but I'm not torn on this. if there is a different style that people agree to then lets use that | 13:44 |
| dirk | #topic CI vote or not vote mode(when enable voting?)(IgorYozhikov) | 13:44 |
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| IgorYozhikov | So, I'll propose a couple of variants in etherpad | 13:45 |
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| IgorYozhikov | mine topic, about CI | 13:45 |
| toabctl | which etherpad? | 13:45 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, new one | 13:45 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'll update you on irc channel when finish with formatting variants | 13:46 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: ok, want to create the etherpad and add a #link to the meeting minutes right now? | 13:46 |
| dirk | or that.. | 13:46 |
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| IgorYozhikov | I can do it right now, yes | 13:47 |
| IgorYozhikov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/spec.j2.formatts | 13:47 |
| IgorYozhikov | next topic - CI about mode? | 13:48 |
| dirk | yep please | 13:48 |
| * dirk has a hard stop upcoming | 13:48 | |
| dirk | whats the topic about ? | 13:48 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, I just want to clarify conditions to make CI voting | 13:49 |
| number80 | I suspect it's about fixing criteria to decide when to enable a voting gate | 13:49 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, yes | 13:49 |
| toabctl | is it possible to make an external Ci voting? | 13:49 |
| IgorYozhikov | I suggest to collect results aka statistics | 13:50 |
| IgorYozhikov | for all attached | will be attached CIs | 13:51 |
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| number80 | toabctl: we need to check with infra | 13:51 |
| IgorYozhikov | I can clarify about voting from 3rd party CI | 13:51 |
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| number80 | but they offered us to host builders | 13:51 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: number80 : as far as I understand there is a wiki page from the infra team about this already | 13:52 |
| dirk | I read it a few days ago | 13:52 |
| dirk | basically summary is that by default all gates are non-voting, and in order to upgrade them to voting you need to send a mail to the dev list about proposing that (and seinding an infra change that ups it to voting) | 13:52 |
| dirk | the infra team needs to white list gates | 13:53 |
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| number80 | ack | 13:53 |
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| IgorYozhikov | fine | 13:53 |
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| IgorYozhikov | openstack-dev, why not | 13:53 |
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| toabctl | so should we try to make our current CI voting? | 13:54 |
| IgorYozhikov | and if there is an opportunity to do this, we need just elaborate criteria | 13:54 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, I suggest to do this after summit | 13:55 |
| dirk | toabctl: "our" you mean the "SUSE CI" labelled thing (that is really mislabelled right now) | 13:55 |
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| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: is there anything happening during summit? or why waiting? | 13:56 |
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| IgorYozhikov | because Mirantis is also working on CI, and I believe that it will be online in a couple of weeks | 13:56 |
| toabctl | dirk: yes. | 13:56 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov: that can be added as CI, too | 13:56 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: so you want to add all CIs as voting in one go? | 13:56 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, ok | 13:56 |
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| IgorYozhikov | more | less on one go | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | at 1st - collect data | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | as results | 13:57 |
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| IgorYozhikov | about failed & succeeded runs | 13:57 |
| toabctl | I would add new CIs as external for some weeks (for testing) and then eventually add them as voting | 13:57 |
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| IgorYozhikov | We are doing the same, long term - switch to rpm-packaging - 1st spec source | 13:58 |
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| toabctl | ok. I guess we need more discussion on that | 13:59 |
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| toabctl | maybe next week or in #openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:59 |
| toabctl | dirk: can you close the meeting? time is over anyway... | 13:59 |
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| dirk | lets continue discussion in #openstack-rpm-packaging | 14:00 |
| number80 | seack | 14:00 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| dirk | thanks! | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 14:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-03-17-13.01.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-03-17-13.01.txt | 14:00 |
| toabctl | bye | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-03-17-13.01.log.html | 14:00 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 15:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| tpsilva | hello | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| jseiler_ | hi | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:00 |
| Poornima | Hi | 15:00 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:00 |
| Zhongjun_ | Hi | 15:00 |
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| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | okay guys today there's not a ton to talk about | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic RC1 status | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | so last week I was very nervous about RC1, given the huge number of remaining bugs | 15:02 |
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| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | we are still behind schedule w.r.t. RC1 but it's starting to look manageable | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 15:02 |
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| toabctl | hi | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | as you can see we have 48 fixed bugs and 18 remaining | 15:02 |
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| kaisers_ | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | I'm going to cover the remaining bugs and we will try to resolve what we can | 15:03 |
| dgonzalez | hi | 15:03 |
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| mkoderer___ | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | my goal is to cut RC1 this week | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:03 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1544725 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1544725 in Manila "manage API ignores snapshot_support in the share_type" [High,New] | 15:03 |
| bswartz | this one has no owner | 15:04 |
| bswartz | looks like gouthamr had it but has dropped it | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: i planned on working on it. I unassigned it a few minutes ago. .will talk to ganso right after this meeting. | 15:04 |
| bswartz | if nobody wants to take over this bug right now I will retarget | 15:05 |
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| ganso | bswartz: I can take it | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | ganso: we need a fix today | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | thanks ganso! | 15:05 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: if we remove LXC bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1555554 is gone | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555554 in Manila "Neutron plugin does port binding without checking port state" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Marc Koderer (m-koderer) | 15:05 |
| bswartz | if I don't see a patch by the end of the day I'll boot it out | 15:05 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1552526 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552526 in Manila "manila access-allow doesn't appear to properly handle 0.0.0.0" [High,New] - Assigned to Surya Ghatty (ghatty) | 15:06 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: so we can close the bug with the removal | 15:06 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: ah sry wanted to interfere | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | mkoderer___: let me go through them in priority order | 15:06 |
| ganso | mkoderer___: I thought it was also related to generic driver concurrency problems, no? | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | sghatty: ping | 15:07 |
| mkoderer___ | ganso: no, it's just about a bug introduced with LXD/LXC | 15:07 |
| bswartz | I haven't seen any updates to this and sghatty isn't here | 15:07 |
| bswartz | this appears to be a longstanding bug | 15:08 |
| cknight | bswartz: is this one in core or in generic? | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | it's a driver bug, but we don't know how many drivers have the same issue | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: it affects LVM and Generic drivers | 15:08 |
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| vponomaryov | cknight: all that use NFS-kernel server | 15:08 |
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| cknight | vponomaryov: got it, thanks | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Unless someone wants to take this one over and fix it I'm inclined to push it | 15:09 |
| toabctl | not sure if there is a way to define a wildcard by ip with nfs-kernel server | 15:09 |
| bswartz | any volunteers to fix this today? | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: ZFSonLinux was affected too, but it is fixed here already | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | toabctl: yes it's supported | 15:09 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: is there a fix that can be easily ported over? | 15:09 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: if you point me to the zfs fix, I can have a look howto port it over | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | there's no way this is a lot of work | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl, cknight: usage of long CIDR instead of short | 15:09 |
| bswartz | but to test it you need to be able to fire up those drivers | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | okay any takers? | 15:10 |
| cknight | sounds like toabctl volunteered | 15:10 |
| toabctl | :) | 15:10 |
| toabctl | I have an hour left. If I can prepare a fix in that time, I'll post it. | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | okay thanks toabctl | 15:11 |
| cknight | toabctl: thanks | 15:11 |
| bswartz | let me know if you don't get to it so I can retarget today | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1546303 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1546303 in Manila "Drivers need more information to ensure snapshots of a replicated share across replicas" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr) | 15:11 |
| toabctl | ok | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | gouthamr: this is the large bugfix youv'e been iterating on, correct? | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | ... we lost gouthamr | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yes | 15:12 |
| bswartz | oh there he is | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: is PS5 is latest or you planmore updates? | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292659 | 15:12 |
| bswartz | can it be merged today? | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: i was hoping i can get some reviews for it. | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: latest PS #5 breaks NetApp and ZFS drivers | 15:13 |
| bswartz | I've been following this one and I have a good feeling | 15:13 |
| bswartz | but yes there are required driver changes | 15:13 |
| bswartz | for the 2 drivers that support replication | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: new [atch is coming up | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | patch* | 15:13 |
| bswartz | okay good enough | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: ok, waiting for it | 15:13 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1550295 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550295 in Manila "Concurrent requests to allow access get lost" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tiago Pasqualini da Silva (tiago.pasqualini) | 15:13 |
| bswartz | tpsilva and I were just discussing this in the channel earlier | 15:14 |
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| tpsilva | yep | 15:14 |
| cknight | tpsilva: is a new patch ready? | 15:14 |
| tpsilva | I implemented the new approach that we just discussed and it seems to work... I'll keep testing it and if I don't see any flaws, I'll fix any broken unit_tests and push it | 15:14 |
| bswartz | okay thanks | 15:14 |
| cknight | tpsilva: if you push it sooner, we can review in parallel | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1551064 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551064 in Manila "Shares created from snapshot of a replicated share do not support replication" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr) | 15:14 |
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| tpsilva | cknight: okay, will do that | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: fixed in the same patch | 15:15 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: this is pretty minor isn't it? | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292659/5 | 15:15 |
| bswartz | oh okay | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yes | 15:15 |
| bswartz | no worries then -- just get that patch merged | 15:15 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1554170 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1554170 in Manila "NetApp cDOT: When backend is unreachable replica status is being set incorrectly." [High,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Meade (alex-meade) | 15:15 |
| ameade | up for review | 15:15 |
| bswartz | I thought this was has been up for a while... | 15:15 |
| ameade | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291803/ | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: related bug, up for review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291803/ | 15:16 |
| ameade | need one more review | 15:16 |
| bswartz | okay core reviewers ^ | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1555093 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555093 in Manila "Keystone v3 support broken (all clients)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Marc Koderer (m-koderer) | 15:16 |
| mkoderer___ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290511/13 | 15:16 |
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| mkoderer___ | I addressed hopefully all finding from cknight and jamie lennox | 15:17 |
| bswartz | wow it's a big one | 15:17 |
| mkoderer___ | jenkis is currently running | 15:17 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: yes it is | 15:17 |
| bswartz | but this is important | 15:17 |
| mkoderer___ | and a very critical (at least for us) | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | yeah we can't boot this one out | 15:17 |
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| mkoderer___ | so reviews welcome | 15:17 |
| bswartz | so let's make sure this gets reviews and merges | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1557071 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557071 in Manila "NetApp cDOT: Does not handle replicated snapshots" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr) | 15:18 |
| bswartz | gouthamr this is related to the other bug right? | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yes | 15:18 |
| bswartz | separate bugs for drivers | 15:18 |
| bswartz | okay the ZFS one is the same issue http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1557283 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557283 in Manila "ZFSonLinux driver fails replcation tests with snapshot instance fix" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Valeriy Ponomaryov (vponomaryov) | 15:19 |
| bswartz | but both being worked on | 15:19 |
| bswartz | that covers the high importance | 15:19 |
| bswartz | and thankfully we have no more criticals | 15:19 |
| bswartz | so assuming we can get 2 patches for the "new" bugs and merge teh fixes for the 7 other highs, I'll feel pretty good | 15:20 |
| bswartz | let's cover the 6 mediums | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1479174 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479174 in Manila "Lock required in delete share/snapshot" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Madhu Mohan Nelemane (mmohan-9) | 15:20 |
| bswartz | mmohan: ping | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I see this has been worked on since last week | 15:21 |
| bswartz | and new patchset today | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | anyone have a good feeling about this merging soon? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | do we need it in Mitaka? | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | I fixes a race condition, but probably one that's been around since liberty | 15:22 |
| bswartz | it* | 15:22 |
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| mkoderer___ | bswartz: need to have a closer look to that one | 15:23 |
| bswartz | okay I'm not hearing much interest in this | 15:23 |
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| cknight | bswartz: sounds good in principle, haven't reviewed yet | 15:23 |
| bswartz | this one will probably get pushed out unless it get attention quickly | 15:23 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539668 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539668 in Manila "Quick start guide uses keystone client" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Daniel Gonzalez Nothnagel (dgonzalez) | 15:24 |
| mkoderer___ | I tranfered the bug to dgonzalez | 15:24 |
| bswartz | this is docs bug | 15:24 |
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| dgonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274136/ | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | it should be fixed but it's not a RC1 stopper | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I will retarget now | 15:24 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: +1 | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1550337 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550337 in Manila "api_version_request.matches does not accept a string or None" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Scott DAngelo (scott-dangelo) | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | wtf | 15:25 |
| bswartz | oh I see -- it affects 3 projects | 15:25 |
| bswartz | that's why there are so many patches | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | manila is the only project that hasn't fixed this | 15:25 |
| cknight | bswartz: we technically don't need it now | 15:25 |
| cknight | bswartz: it's a minor enhancement to microversion matching, but nothing is broken in manila | 15:26 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285426/ | 15:26 |
| bswartz | so do we not want to fix this ever? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I can -2 the fix and take manila off the bug | 15:26 |
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| cknight | bswartz: it's a fine enhancement, but not a blocker now | 15:26 |
| bswartz | but I imagine scottda is trying to fix a real issue | 15:26 |
| bswartz | oh okay | 15:26 |
| bswartz | so retarget now? it's not ready to merge by RC1? | 15:27 |
| mkoderer___ | just retarget it | 15:27 |
| bswartz | alright | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1555554 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555554 in Manila "Neutron plugin does port binding without checking port state" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Marc Koderer (m-koderer) | 15:27 |
| mkoderer___ | we can remove this one | 15:27 |
| bswartz | mkoderer___: earlier you said you wanted a fix in Mitaka | 15:27 |
| mkoderer___ | when LXD is dropped the issue in manila core goes away | 15:27 |
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| mkoderer___ | bswartz: yes sorry I didn't saw your ML mail | 15:28 |
| bswartz | mkoderer___: I expect LXD (or some other container driver) to come back in Newton | 15:28 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: then I have a fix | 15:28 |
| mkoderer___ | :) | 15:28 |
| bswartz | should the fix go in now or newton? | 15:28 |
| mkoderer___ | bswartz: it's actualy the first patch for HPB too... so we can close this bug | 15:29 |
| mkoderer___ | I'll do | 15:29 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:29 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1557031 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557031 in Manila "ZFSonLinux share driver does not report dedupe and compression capabilities" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Valeriy Ponomaryov (vponomaryov) | 15:29 |
| cknight | This one is in the gate now. | 15:29 |
| bswartz | awesome | 15:29 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1557854 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557854 in Manila "fix the scheduler choose a disable share service" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to zhongjun (jun-zhongjun) | 15:29 |
| bswartz | fix abandoned? | 15:29 |
| Zhongjun_ | Waiting for review | 15:30 |
| bswartz | oh there are 2 fixes | 15:30 |
| bswartz | very small change | 15:30 |
| bswartz | let's get reviews on this | 15:30 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293246/ | 15:30 |
| Zhongjun_ | Abandoned the same one | 15:30 |
| bswartz | that's all the mediums | 15:30 |
| bswartz | the last 3 bugs are low importance | 15:31 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1536592 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536592 in Manila "Manila should reuse sslutils and modules from oslo" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Bechtold (toabctl) | 15:31 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/289382 | 15:31 |
| mkoderer___ | sounds like a nice to have for me | 15:31 |
| mkoderer___ | toabctl: ? | 15:31 |
| bswartz | mkoderer___: you -1 this | 15:31 |
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| toabctl | hm. iirc I updated that this morning or so | 15:31 |
| mkoderer___ | ah yes.. it removed some config variables | 15:32 |
| bswartz | okay let's resolve the discussion around it | 15:32 |
| cknight | bswartz: looks like it fixes another bug with py3 | 15:32 |
| bswartz | seems like it can get in today | 15:32 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1536936 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536936 in Manila "scheduler choose wrong pool" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to zhaohua (zhaohua-zhao) | 15:32 |
| toabctl | mkoderer___: see cknight and my comment. | 15:32 |
| mkoderer___ | toabctl: ok | 15:32 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271172/ | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | no changes since Feb 23 | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | looks like it got a bunch of -1 and no followup | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | can we live without this fix? | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | anyone from huawei here? I don't see zhaohua around | 15:35 |
| ameade | Zhongjun_: is huawei right? | 15:35 |
| Zhongjun_ | Yes | 15:35 |
| bswartz | Zhongjun_: maybe you can ping zhaohua about following up in that review? | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I'd like to simply retarget now though | 15:35 |
| Zhongjun_ | Ok, I will ask he | 15:36 |
| bswartz | it's low importance | 15:36 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1 It's been long enough with no response, it must not be that critical. | 15:36 |
| bswartz | okay retargeted | 15:36 |
| bswartz | remember we can backport fixes too | 15:36 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1545720 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1545720 in Manila "generic driver: availability_zone not returned by ShareInstance model" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Marcus Furlong (furlongm) | 15:36 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280223/ | 15:37 |
| bswartz | another old fix, from February | 15:37 |
| bswartz | it has -1 and no followup | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | Marcus Furlong is from Aptira | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | gouthamr you had the problem with his | 15:39 |
| bswartz | this | 15:39 |
| bswartz | did you read the latest response? | 15:39 |
| bswartz | oh I see | 15:39 |
| bswartz | you can't repro | 15:39 |
| bswartz | well I don't want to spend more time on this bug | 15:39 |
| bswartz | it seems minor and not-urgent | 15:39 |
| bswartz | pushed to newton | 15:40 |
| bswartz | that was the last one | 15:40 |
| * bswartz refreshes page | 15:40 | |
| tpsilva | bswartz: what about the manilaclient bugs? | 15:40 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 15:40 |
| bswartz | tpsilva: 1 sec | 15:40 |
| tpsilva | k, sorry :) | 15:41 |
| bswartz | okay we have 13 left | 15:41 |
| bswartz | and I'm hoping they're all fixable today | 15:41 |
| bswartz | so I can cut RC1 tomorrow | 15:41 |
| bswartz | (it was supposed to be today) | 15:41 |
| bswartz | thanks tpsilva for mentioning client | 15:41 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1556956 | 15:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1556956 in python-manilaclient "Functional tests for access rules is waiting for access_rules_status=active" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tiago Pasqualini da Silva (tiago.pasqualini) | 15:42 |
| tpsilva | this one just needs +A... it depends on the other update_access fix from manila | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | okay core reviewers please ^ | 15:43 |
| bswartz | err | 15:43 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293392/ | 15:43 |
| bswartz | that's the patch | 15:43 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1516562 | 15:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516562 in python-manilaclient "Functional tests do not support Keystone v3 auth" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:43 |
| bswartz | this is a test issue | 15:44 |
| bswartz | and no assignee | 15:44 |
| bswartz | any reason to not boot it to newton? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | anyone want to take it over? | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: boot it | 15:44 |
| bswartz | done | 15:44 |
| bswartz | okay! | 15:45 |
| bswartz | #topic Design summit planning | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | the design summit is not far away | 15:45 |
| bswartz | I don't have an etherpad yet, but please start collecting your ideas for sessions | 15:45 |
| bswartz | with the shortened cycle we probably won't have much time to pull the design summit together | 15:46 |
| bswartz | space wise, I asked for and we received the same amount of space that we did in Tokyo | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | so I'll collect the proposed topics and try to arrange them into a sane schedule | 15:47 |
| bswartz | look for a ML post from me | 15:47 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | anything else today? | 15:47 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: LXD removal? | 15:47 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I think that was covered in the ML post | 15:48 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: in scope of RC1? | 15:48 |
| Poornima | bswartz, anything where new contributors can look ? | 15:48 |
| bswartz | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089522.html | 15:48 |
| bswartz | no replies there | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | the TL;DR version is that the LXD driver wasn't ready for production due to problems with LXD itself | 15:49 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, is it correct to say that we remove it in RC1? | 15:49 |
| bswartz | we took a gamble and hoped that LXD would be stable in time for Mitaka release, and we lost that gamble | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | yes I haven't checked if the removal patch merged yet | 15:50 |
| bswartz | not that we're not killing that driver | 15:50 |
| bswartz | note* | 15:50 |
| cknight | not merged yet | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | it's just being taken out of the release so more work can be done before releasing in newton | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | and it's possible that we'll use something other than LXD for container management which might cause the driver to change names | 15:51 |
| bswartz | Poornima: welcome | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | Poornima: I recommend getting involved with code reviews and perhaps looking as the list of unfixed bugs in launchpad | 15:52 |
| bswartz | oh and I suppose I should remind everyone about docs | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | if you haven't updated your config refs, do it now | 15:53 |
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| Poornima | alright :) | 15:53 |
| bswartz | we will need to spend some time after RC1 updating various manuals related to manila, based on changes between liberty and mitaka | 15:54 |
| bswartz | and for those that don't know, manila will have an install guide this cycle | 15:54 |
| bswartz | thanks to the work of dencaval | 15:54 |
| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:55 |
| bswartz | alright thanks everyone | 15:56 |
| bswartz | let's wrap up RC1 | 15:56 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 15:56:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-03-17-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-03-17-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-03-17-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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| xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
| xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
| xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
| xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
| xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 16:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
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| xarses | #topic Action items from last meeting | 16:02 |
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| xarses | holser_ to update ML on fuel-lib ci | 16:04 |
| * angdraug prods ogelbukh_ | 16:05 | |
| holser_ | ok | 16:05 |
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| holser_ | I am not sure I sent email | 16:05 |
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| holser_ | let me follow up on this | 16:05 |
| holser_ | let’s move on | 16:06 |
| xarses | aglarendil to update ML on fuel-lib CI | 16:06 |
| xarses | thanks | 16:06 |
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| ogelbukh_ | hi | 16:06 |
| angdraug | looks like there weren't updates on that thread since last week | 16:07 |
| angdraug | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/087862.html | 16:07 |
| xarses | yep | 16:07 |
| angdraug | back to ogelbukh_'s update? | 16:07 |
| holser_ | yep | 16:08 |
| xarses | ogelbukh_ will add octane and repo for configdb to fuel governance | 16:08 |
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| ogelbukh_ | update is brief, changes are in review https://review.openstack.org/293255 | 16:08 |
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| ogelbukh_ | all relevant signoffs are there, waiting for infra team to merge them | 16:09 |
| angdraug | wrong link? | 16:09 |
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| ogelbukh_ | there were some confusion around name of the project and release schedule | 16:09 |
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| ogelbukh_ | but they seem to be resolved now | 16:09 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/291380 | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh_ | https://review.openstack.org/291380 | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh_ | correct, that's the governance patch | 16:09 |
| angdraug | tick tock, lets move on | 16:10 |
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| angdraug | ogelbukh_: don't walk away far, you've also got status report to give | 16:10 |
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| xarses | #topic Commit messages need to be more descriptive (Xarses) | 16:10 |
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| ogelbukh_ | https://review.openstack.org/286137 and this is the project repo itself, should be merged first | 16:10 |
| xarses | Hi I wanted to remind people that short commit messages are not useful. If there isn't enough to understand why this change is needed, then it isn't long enough. this is usually 3 or more sentences. | 16:11 |
| angdraug | +1 to that | 16:11 |
| mattymo | What are you changing, why, and some references as needed :) It's not hard | 16:11 |
| maximov_ | +1 | 16:11 |
| ikalnitsky | xarses: +1 | 16:11 |
| angdraug | just link to a bug with no comment is not enough, bug description can change and usually not that useful to begin with | 16:11 |
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| angdraug | core reviewers, please -1 at will for bad commit messages | 16:12 |
| xarses | I'd like to remind reviewers to help here, if you can't easily tell why the change is needed, please speak up | 16:12 |
| angdraug | looks like we have a strong consensus in favor, moving on? | 16:12 |
| xarses | thanks | 16:12 |
| xarses | #topic Fuel-mixed team status (asaprykin) | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fuel-mixed team status (asaprykin) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:12 | |
| asaprykin | Fuel-mixed team is working on fuel-library ensurability/idempotency and multipath feature | 16:13 |
| asaprykin | - Idempotency: All changes are merged. QA in progress. | 16:13 |
| asaprykin | - Multipath: Work on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1555664 is in progress | 16:13 |
| asaprykin | - Working on bugfixing as well. | 16:13 |
| asaprykin | That's all. Than you. | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555664 in Fuel for OpenStack "provision with multipath device fails randomly" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sergey Slipushenko (sslypushenko) | 16:13 |
| mihgen | folks, have you been working on idempotency for master node installation tasks.. ? | 16:13 |
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| holser_ | asaprykin: take to consideration https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1558607 | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1558607 in Fuel for OpenStack "Wrong configuration of Cinder Multi-backend" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Denis Egorenko (degorenko) | 16:14 |
| asaprykin | no, only fuel library connected to environment nodes. | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: are they not idempotent? | 16:14 |
| alex_didenko | mihgen, idempotency is needed for LCM feature | 16:14 |
| alex_didenko | it's not related to puppet-master | 16:14 |
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| mihgen | I don't know. that's why I ask. Can you update master node IP, rerun puppet, and be sure that your cobbler will pick up new IP? | 16:15 |
| mattymo | that's never worked! | 16:15 |
| mihgen | I'm talking about Fuel Master, not related to puppet master or anything like that | 16:15 |
| alex_didenko | oh, I see | 16:15 |
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| mattymo | never ever. it's going to break nailgun | 16:15 |
| mihgen | that's why I'm asking if we have plans to fix it | 16:15 |
| alex_didenko | but Fuel master is not covered by LCM, only openstack nodes | 16:15 |
| ogelbukh_ | kozhukalov: they are not idempotent, yes | 16:15 |
| angdraug | alex_didenko: why? | 16:15 |
| mihgen | if we even have a backlog item for it. We are making config mgmt for openstack, but not for fuel | 16:15 |
| alex_didenko | so I don't think we need to make sure puppet manifests for master are idempotent | 16:16 |
| angdraug | Fuel node is not special, we need to be able to manage it, too | 16:16 |
| xarses | angdraug: +1 | 16:16 |
| mihgen | +1 | 16:16 |
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| alex_didenko | what parts exactly? | 16:16 |
| ogelbukh_ | we need to make sure that there's no manifests used in installation of Fuel Master | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | ogelbukh_: could you please give an example? | 16:16 |
| ogelbukh_ | sure, let me fetch some | 16:16 |
| angdraug | alex_didenko: all parts | 16:16 |
| mihgen | I gave a very specific example with IP change & cobbler. this is just one of the use cases why we need it | 16:17 |
| xarses | it sounds like these where out of scope | 16:17 |
| alex_didenko | but some parts are configured by bootsrap_admin_node.sh, should it be idempotent as well? | 16:17 |
| angdraug | we're not talking a 9.0 FFE for this, no, but we should scope it and plan it for Newton | 16:17 |
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| mihgen | can someone take an action item, file a bug /blueprint on this? | 16:17 |
| xarses | and we need to plan to visit this area in 10 | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: you gave an example, but it was a question, not statement | 16:17 |
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| mihgen | ideally to investigate /scope it.. | 16:17 |
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| xarses | kozhukalov: and mattymo replied that it never worked right | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | if it is a statement that they are not indempotent, then i'd like to have an example | 16:18 |
| mihgen | bootsrap_admin_node.sh - yes it should be idempotent as well. Beacuse we need to get rid of it ideally | 16:18 |
| alex_didenko | well, yes, then we should get rid of shell scripts and move those parts to manifests | 16:19 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: if everything is idempotent, then great. do we have a test which covers it? | 16:19 |
| xarses | ok, who's got the action? we need to move along | 16:19 |
| sbog | Certificate creation for nginx UI is not idempotent, for example. All openssl puppet module is not idempotent, btw if you need an example | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: no, we don't have tests, we certainly need them | 16:20 |
| * angdraug is shocked by the lack of volunteers | 16:20 | |
| ogelbukh_ | one example here https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1539577 | 16:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539577 in Fuel for OpenStack "[fuel-library] Astute service not restarted upon changes in config file" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Oleg S. Gelbukh (gelbuhos) | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | sbog: nice, thanx | 16:21 |
| angdraug | folks, lets stop discussing it here and volunteer someone to lead this offline | 16:21 |
| xarses | #action asaprykin will follow up on fuel master node idempotentcy for 10 | 16:21 |
| mattymo | angdraug, xarses I can take care of fuel master idempotency ---- changing fuel master IP, however, is a tech challenge that needs to originate from a python eng | 16:21 |
| xarses | team lead assigned | 16:21 |
| xarses | they may change owner | 16:21 |
| xarses | #topic Fuel-telco team status (mpolenchuk) | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fuel-telco team status (mpolenchuk) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:22 | |
| pma_ | Brief status of fuel-telco team: CGroups: demo has been delivered, minor bugfixing NUMA/CPU pinning/Hugepages: all patches are merged (except 2 patches w/ validation, we've time until EOW to complete it) QA is in progress for all the features above. | 16:22 |
| pma_ | thanx | 16:22 |
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| xarses | pma_: what is the scope of these two patches? | 16:22 |
| angdraug | how are those validation patches doing? | 16:22 |
| xarses | are the available already? | 16:22 |
| pma_ | just validation | 16:22 |
| pma_ | yes, i review | 16:23 |
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| pma_ | yes, on review | 16:23 |
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| angdraug | I've checked them yesterday and one was ready for merge, the other in need of a rebase | 16:23 |
| angdraug | it all looked like both could be merged today | 16:23 |
| dklenov | one patch with +2 in CR and ready for merge | 16:24 |
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| dklenov | second one has -1 from CI | 16:24 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286495/ | 16:24 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285282/ | 16:24 |
| angdraug | lets not wait until the last moment and then have to ask for another extention | 16:24 |
| dklenov | yes, we are working to have them merged ASAP | 16:25 |
| angdraug | xarses: moving on? | 16:25 |
| xarses | #topic Fuel Network team status (alex_didenko) | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fuel Network team status (alex_didenko) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:25 | |
| alex_didenko | Fuel network team status per feature: | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | Allow any VIP: bugfixing | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | External LB: working on tests automation along with fuel-qa team (new plugin introduced for this purpose) | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | SR-IOV: bugfixing | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | DPDK: library part is merged, nailgun and UI patches are still on review: | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/support-dpdk | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | We're still optimistic and do not expect any delays in the current schedule/FFE for DPDK (unless some major outage with BVT/CI). | 16:25 |
| alex_didenko | Also we're working on Fuel bugs related to network (bugs with team-network tag). | 16:25 |
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| alex_didenko | That's all | 16:26 |
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| angdraug | does the link above contain _all_ remaining patches? | 16:26 |
| angdraug | or do you expect more to be pushed? | 16:26 |
| alex_didenko | all patches, new patches may appear only as bugfixes | 16:26 |
| angdraug | tbh doesn't look too good, 5 out of 6 patches have -1 from CI | 16:27 |
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| alex_didenko | yep, they had -1 from CI the most of time, right now there're some merge conflicts | 16:27 |
| angdraug | is that related to the deadlocks problem ikalnitsky raised on ML yesterday? | 16:28 |
| alex_didenko | we had a lot of problems with bvt and master during this week, as you know | 16:28 |
| angdraug | yup | 16:28 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: i need to check each patch | 16:28 |
| angdraug | no easy way to tell? | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | between that and bvt regressions, we're going to have a lot of trouble landing all these patches in time | 16:29 |
| angdraug | ...and we still have bugs to fix | 16:29 |
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| angdraug | who's working on the deadlocks problem? | 16:30 |
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| ikalnitsky | no one | 16:30 |
| holser_ | romcheg: | 16:30 |
| xarses | fuel-library has been quite unstable too | 16:30 |
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| akislitsky_ | romcheg: and me are working on the deadlocks issues | 16:30 |
| ikalnitsky | really? | 16:31 |
| ikalnitsky | that's good to hear. however, what exactly you're doing folks? | 16:31 |
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| akislitsky_ | we've found that main problem is in postgresql configuration. due to logs we shouldn't have locks on executed queries | 16:32 |
| romcheg | ikalnitsky: we actually discuvered, that there seems to be no deadlocks | 16:32 |
| xarses | we can circle back, or move this to the ML guys | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky | how that could be possible if postgresql tells you 'deadlock' ? | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky | xarses: agree | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky | moving on | 16:33 |
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| angdraug | akislitsky_: romcheg: please follow up on ML with your findings | 16:33 |
| xarses | #action akislitsky_: romcheg to update on fuel-web deadlocks issue | 16:33 |
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| xarses | #topic Enhancements Team status (ashtokolov) | 16:33 |
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| mattymo | +1 I want to read about what's going on with nailgun deadlocks | 16:33 |
| ashtokolov | 1. Custom graph execution - Good Progress (core part + API - merged or on review, CLI - WIP) | 16:34 |
| ashtokolov | 2. Versioning storage for serialised cluster data and cluster settings - In progress | 16:34 |
| ashtokolov | 3. Data-driven decision which tasks should be run during redeployment (YAQL) - core part - in progress | 16:34 |
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| ashtokolov | 4. Store Deployment Tasks Execution History in DB - Good Progress (core part + API + CLI - on review) | 16:34 |
| ashtokolov | 5. Unlock settings tab with UI team - In progress | 16:34 |
| ashtokolov | 6. Deployment Tasks idempotence with Fuel Mixed Team - Merged | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | when can you show first demo folks?) | 16:35 |
| holser_ | I am interested in Demo also | 16:35 |
| mihgen | I really want to see something and spread the word | 16:35 |
| xarses | +1 | 16:35 |
| angdraug | any links to code currently on review? | 16:35 |
| angdraug | any code left to write that's not yet on review? | 16:35 |
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| ashtokolov | our deadline is 3/24, so I think 3/28 or 29 | 16:36 |
| mihgen | you mean demo 3/28? | 16:36 |
| angdraug | deadline 3/24 doesn't mean that you should wait until very last moment to show stuff | 16:36 |
| ashtokolov | yes 3/28 for demo | 16:36 |
| angdraug | what if you get feedback? :p | 16:36 |
| xarses | it goes to 10? | 16:36 |
| mihgen | well I'm not asking for full end-to-end demo ;) ok let's take it offline from here, we can figure out what could be shown before I hope | 16:37 |
| mihgen | it goes to 9 | 16:37 |
| ashtokolov | please review our specs, it will help us to get your feedback | 16:37 |
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| ashtokolov | ok, I think we can show the custom graph and deployment history next week | 16:38 |
| xarses | ok, moving on | 16:38 |
| holser_ | xarses: Can you make action item? | 16:38 |
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| xarses | #topic Fuel Octane team status (ogelbukh) | 16:38 |
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| xarses | #action ashtokolov will follow up on scheduling demo for enhancements team features | 16:38 |
| xarses | ogelbukh_: ^ | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | configdb status: | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | 1. API extension in works, already working with Nailgun, recorded some simple demo | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | now implementing relevant API handlers and automating tests | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | code is still available from Github, project in opesntack/ is pending addition | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | specs in review, all comments addressed | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | https://review.openstack.org/284109 | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | https://review.openstack.org/286012 | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | 2. Deployment task for data upload is in progress in Puppet Master plugin source code tree | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | 3. Auth mechanisms for Puppet Master plugin in review: | 16:39 |
| ogelbukh_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/upload-deployment-facts-to-configdb | 16:39 |
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| ogelbukh_ | data-driven upgrade: | 16:41 |
| ogelbukh_ | acceptance in progress, bugs still being found and fixed | 16:41 |
| ogelbukh_ | Fuel admin password change issues | 16:41 |
| ogelbukh_ | - https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1557563 | 16:41 |
| ogelbukh_ | - https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1555145 | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557563 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "[fuel-bootstrap] fuel-bootstrap activate ID fails if nailgun password were changed" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Arthur Svechnikov (asvechnikov) | 16:41 |
| ogelbukh_ | Default timeout in Puppet is insufficient for DB migrations: | 16:41 |
| ogelbukh_ | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292243/ | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555145 in Fuel for OpenStack 8.0.x "[upgrade][8.0] Upgrade does not works if admin password was changed after initial setup " [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sergey Abramov (sabramov) | 16:41 |
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| mihgen | data-driven upgrade - it's not relying on custom graphs yet, right? | 16:42 |
| ogelbukh_ | it's upgrade of Fuel Master node | 16:42 |
| ogelbukh_ | it doesn't have anything to do with custom graph | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | demo link | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | #link https://asciinema.org/a/87v363mz6gn3oxmu1zw3b0s3f | 16:42 |
| ogelbukh_ | we will explore the new function when start working on upgrade of OpenStack envs to 9.0 | 16:43 |
| mihgen | how do we do upgrade of master node? I thought we just backup db, install new master, restore from backup | 16:43 |
| ogelbukh_ | because it seem to be exactly what we need to perform proper upgrade with minimal external logic | 16:43 |
| ogelbukh_ | yes, but that's more than that | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | woops :( where can I learn more? | 16:44 |
| ogelbukh_ | we need to update astute.yaml, restart all containers, run puppet in host, etc | 16:44 |
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| xarses | ogelbukh_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292243/ is an example of way to short of a commit message, I got more information from your sentence about it. It also has no bug id | 16:44 |
| ogelbukh_ | xarses: that's true | 16:44 |
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| ogelbukh_ | parses: we have a conversation with Sergey about that just couple days ago, in fact | 16:45 |
| ogelbukh_ | I will enforce the commit message policy | 16:45 |
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| ogelbukh_ | *had a conversation, sorry | 16:45 |
| xarses | thanks | 16:45 |
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| xarses | ogelbukh_: upgrade to 8? | 16:46 |
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| ogelbukh_ | yes | 16:46 |
| mihgen | if we had it all idempotent... in theory it should not require any tweaks from you, ogelbukh_ | 16:47 |
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| xarses | #topic fuel-octane upgrade to 8 | 16:47 |
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| ogelbukh_ | the problem is, we have loads of different stuff happening in master node | 16:47 |
| ogelbukh_ | like bootstrap images building | 16:47 |
| ogelbukh_ | they have to be rebuilt with restored SSH keys | 16:48 |
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| ogelbukh_ | we need to reload the openstack.yaml into DB by hand after we complete the DB migrations | 16:48 |
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| xarses | ogelbukh_: anything on this topic? | 16:49 |
| ogelbukh_ | and different tools have different ways to do the same things | 16:49 |
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| ogelbukh_ | well, I guess I covered the status above | 16:49 |
| xarses | next one then? | 16:49 |
| ogelbukh_ | need to add that we're week behind our initial schedule ATM | 16:49 |
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| xarses | #topic Discuss the update enchantment for this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1558655 (akscram) | 16:49 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1558655 in Fuel for OpenStack "There is no possible to reassign nodes during upgrade without re-provisioning" [Undecided,New] | 16:50 |
| akscram | Guys, I wanna ask about the reconsideration to land an enhancement for the cluster_upgrade extention in Nailgun in the 9.0 release. | 16:50 |
| holser_ | ogelbukh_: SSH keys can be stored outside of bootstrap image | 16:51 |
| mihgen | akscram: link? | 16:51 |
| akscram | It was declined for FFE but it's needed for one and a half of our customers. | 16:51 |
| holser_ | it should be built in the same way we do for image base provisioning | 16:51 |
| mattymo | holser_, or regenerate bootstrap image | 16:51 |
| akscram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280067/ | 16:51 |
| holser_ | cloud-init will do the job | 16:51 |
| ogelbukh_ | holser_: let's move it to fuel-library maybe? | 16:51 |
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| holser_ | k | 16:51 |
| mihgen | akscram: what happens if we don't merge it | 16:52 |
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| akscram | It's actively reviewing and has a good progress. | 16:52 |
| angdraug | is this a regression from 8.0? | 16:52 |
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| angdraug | the bug linked above was created 31 minutes ago | 16:52 |
| akscram | Otherwise we should downstream it. | 16:52 |
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| angdraug | there's no reference to the blueprint that didn't get FFE | 16:53 |
| akscram | angdraug: yep, you are right about the bug, it was created a few minutes ago. | 16:53 |
| mihgen | it's actually 95% of code that goes to upgrade extension | 16:53 |
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| ogelbukh_ | unfortunately, we didn't have capacity in this cycle to extract the extension as we should have | 16:54 |
| mihgen | and few lines of code which goes to node.py. I'd suggest to ikalnitsky take a look and understand what we lose and what we get.. | 16:54 |
| angdraug | akscram: you're 2 weeks too late to ask for an FFE now | 16:54 |
| ikalnitsky | ok | 16:54 |
| ikalnitsky | akscram: could you please bring more details in the bug? | 16:54 |
| akscram | angdraug: I know, we discussed it with you to weeks ago. | 16:54 |
| akscram | ikalnitsky: Yes, I will. | 16:55 |
| angdraug | yes, and the answer back then was "no FFE" | 16:55 |
| ikalnitsky | because there's abstract "we can't since 9.0" withour explanation. and there's no info why you need it | 16:55 |
| angdraug | lets resurrect the FFE thread on ML and have more details there, and in the bug | 16:55 |
| ikalnitsky | akscram: thx | 16:55 |
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| mihgen | could it be reimplmeneted to separate extension, and as such to be installed as separate package? | 16:55 |
| akscram | angdraug: thanks, I will do it. | 16:56 |
| mihgen | in this case you could deliver this separately to those who need it | 16:56 |
| xarses | moving on then? we have two more adn 5 min | 16:56 |
| akscram | mihgen: It can but not in the current stage, I mean FFE. | 16:56 |
| xarses | s/adn/and | 16:56 |
| xarses | #topic UI Team status (vkramskikh) | 16:57 |
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| vkramskikh | Hi! Here is our status for 9.0 features: | 16:57 |
| vkramskikh | 1) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/remove-vendor-code - no vendor code left in the upstream; downstream part is still not merged, since we decided to change some upstream code to minimize amount of downstream changes. We plan to finish it this week. | 16:57 |
| vkramskikh | 2) NFV stuff - only DPDK enablement is still not merged. We plan to merge it as soon as backend part is merged. | 16:57 |
| vkramskikh | 3) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/unlock-settings-tab - help was requested with that feature. This week we finalized the design and going to start implementation soon. | 16:57 |
| vkramskikh | After completion of #1 and #2 we're switching to bugfixing. There are 28 UI bugs, 5 of them are High. | 16:57 |
| akscram | mihgen: in the current state the cluster_upgrade extention is highly relates on the internals | 16:57 |
| vkramskikh | Questions? | 16:57 |
| xarses | #action akscram to update ML and bug regarding FFE for in-place upgrade code | 16:57 |
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| angdraug | vkramskikh: nice and concise update, thanks! | 16:58 |
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| xarses | vkramskikh: thanks | 16:58 |
| xarses | #topic fuel-web/docs to fuel-docs move (bookwar) | 16:58 |
| xarses | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089355.html | 16:58 |
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| bookwar | just short announcement: fuel-web/docs content was moved to fuel-docs/devdocs/ Please send all new patches there, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089355.html | 16:59 |
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| xarses | thanks everyone | 16:59 |
| xarses | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 16:59:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-03-17-16.00.html | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-03-17-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-03-17-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 17:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: hyakuhei | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | whatup whatup | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | not mucho, you? | 17:00 |
| singlethink | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | as my friend chair6 says, living the dream | 17:01 |
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| elmiko | haha, nice | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko: you have the link for where this meetings agenda should be? | 17:01 |
| elmiko | or are you... dreaming the life? | 17:01 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: i sure don't | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | I've switched computers and don't have bookmarks anymore | 17:01 |
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| elmiko | one sec, i'll check | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | lol, sweet | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: has it | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | etherpad :) | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Yo | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-20160317-agenda | 17:01 |
| elmiko | ah, no worries then ;) | 17:01 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 17:02 |
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| sigmavirus24 | sorry for being late | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: whatup | 17:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | things and stuff | 17:02 |
| * elmiko adds a note to sigmavirus24's permanent record | 17:02 | |
| sigmavirus24 | you? | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: that's a long record | 17:03 |
| sdake | o/ | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | lol | 17:03 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: i can only imagine... ;) | 17:03 |
| tkelsey | o/ all | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | So we do have a drop in from a Kolla guy today which should be exciting | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | hey tkelsey ! | 17:03 |
| elmiko | sweet! | 17:03 |
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| sdake | hey I'm the kolla guy ;) | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | oh cool | 17:04 |
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| bknudson | hi | 17:04 |
| * sigmavirus24 looks for good container trolling comments | 17:04 | |
| tkelsey | sdake: welcome :) | 17:04 |
| * elmiko waves to sdake | 17:04 | |
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| * sigmavirus24 wonders if he can make stuff up about containers just to troll while sounding legit ;) | 17:04 | |
| elmiko | lol | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: you wouldn't be the first | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: containers are the next generation of application security. No need to unset debug=True in your flask apps | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | hehe | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | run everything as root too | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | oh, I didn't even know that, amaze | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: right? | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | also containers give you free doge coin | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | ;) | 17:05 |
| sdake | hyakuhei actually we dont run everything as rootin our containers ;) | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | kill MAC for that performance upgrade? | 17:05 |
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| sdake | running as root with a container breakout allows full comrpomise o the host | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: selinux inside the container makes your hosts safer too ;) | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | sdake: Clearly you’re doing it wrong. | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | == hyakuhei | 17:06 |
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| tmcpeak | now look what you've started sigmavirus24, another mark in your file | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | #tigerwinning | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | this is why we can't have guests | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | anyway | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | no nice things. | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, lets get going | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: take it away, I’m going to chase down that PTL who’s supposed to be dropping in | 17:07 |
| * elmiko notes in sigmavirus24's file, "habitual line stepper" | 17:07 | |
| tmcpeak | ok | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | skipping summit planning for hyakuhei | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Anchor | 17:07 |
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| tmcpeak | tkelsey, roll it | 17:08 |
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| tkelsey | so, not much to say here, there is talk of making an Anchor 1.0 build but no clear plan yet | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | fair enough | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | active dev still? | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah stan doesn’t think it needs much more polish | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | you guys do a roadmap for 1.0 like we did with Bandit? | 17:09 |
| tkelsey | we will do, but TZ makes it tricky | 17:09 |
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| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:09 |
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| sigmavirus24 | does anchor have a deployment story yet? | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | Yarp | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | Hey dave-mccowan | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | ok fair enough | 17:10 |
| * sigmavirus24 might write an openstack-ansible role for it then | 17:10 | |
| tkelsey | sigmavirus24: nice | 17:10 |
| * sigmavirus24 has a role for barbican that is being brought upstream | 17:10 | |
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| elmiko | nice, sigmavirus24++ | 17:10 |
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| sigmavirus24 | anchor might be more enjoyable than barbican if it has had thought put into how to deploy it | 17:10 |
| redrobot | sigmavirus24 link? | 17:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | redrobot: the project exists I haven't checked for code yet | 17:11 |
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| sigmavirus24 | old link is https://github.com/sigmavirus24/openstack-ansible-barbican | 17:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | Just using uwsgi for now | 17:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | slowly testing out other changes to make pbr generate apache scripts for barbican | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | cool | 17:12 |
| redrobot | sigmavirus24 awesome, thanks. | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | anything else for Anchor? | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | not from me | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | allright | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit | 17:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | has the anchor team thought of reaching out to magnum? | 17:13 |
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| sigmavirus24 | er i'll ask that elsewhere later | 17:13 |
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| sdake | sigmavirus24 it was brought up during magnum dev | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | so we're at feature freeze in Bandit but have lots of bug squashing to do | 17:13 |
| sdake | i really wanted anchor instead of barbican | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | OK, so bandit has most of the 1.0 stuff, but we have a bunch of bugs to fix | 17:13 |
| sdake | but thats not what happened - expect things to change towards anchor in the future | 17:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | :thumbsup: | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | sdake: sigmavirus24 lets discuss magnum + anchor in the AOB section at the end | 17:14 |
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| sdake | hyakuhei roger | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | unfortunalty my OpenStack summit talk to announce 1.0 was rejected and I wont be at the summit. So, I guess it falls to others to spam about it :) | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | I'm happy to shuffle things if we want to dicuss now? | 17:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: not a big deal. later is better | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | nah that’s ok, roll on MC | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | ok | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | allright we've got a big agenda so | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | #topic docs | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie: elmiko | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | mcfly? | 17:16 |
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| elmiko | sorry | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | heh | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | So, no docs? | 17:17 |
| elmiko | i don't think we have any updates, just bug reports being completed | 17:17 |
| elmiko | we are still blocked on creating the pdf | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:17 |
| elmiko | although, iirc, pdesai is going to help out researching a path forward | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | That’s cool | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | path for what? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | Priti right? | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | oh PDF | 17:18 |
| elmiko | otherwise, we are just taking care of issues and adding some content improvements | 17:18 |
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| elmiko | hyakuhei: yes Priti | 17:18 |
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| elmiko | i think that's all, it's been slow the last few weeks (and i was out last week) | 17:19 |
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| hyakuhei | wb elmiko | 17:19 |
| elmiko | cheers ;) | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | allright | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Syntribos | 17:20 |
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| hyakuhei | michaelxin et al | 17:21 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: I bumped Kolla further up the agenda | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok | 17:21 |
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| tmcpeak | allright | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | moving on | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Doesn’t look the fuzzing guys are here | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Summit Planning | 17:22 |
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| hyakuhei | This just in | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Security: 3fb, 2wr, cm:half | 17:22 |
| redrobot | \o/ | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | wuts dis ^ | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | 2 working room | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | That’s three fishbowl, 2 working room and a community space for half a day | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | half of something | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok cool | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | :) | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | seems like a good haul | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, better than last time | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | Slowly we take over :D | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | hehe :) | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | hey redrobot didn’t see you lurking there! | 17:23 |
| elmiko | nice | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | I don’t have much to add | 17:24 |
| redrobot | I haven't been paying attention to the cross-project stuff... any word on BYOK discussions being a cross-project session? | 17:24 |
| tkelsey | as I wont be at the summit I expect interested folks to make lots of bandit noise in my absence :) | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | No, I’m not sure where to get involved with that | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | yeah I won't be there either | 17:24 |
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| tmcpeak | browne sigmavirus24 bknudson: you guys down to do a major Bandit push at the summit for our 1.0 release? | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: I wont' be at the summit | 17:25 |
| * redrobot will be peddling bandit at the summit | 17:25 | |
| sigmavirus24 | But I'll participate remotely | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | redrobot: sweet! | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | :D | 17:25 |
| bknudson | I'll be there | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | redrobot: I heard the going rate for uncut Bandit is 4K per kilo | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | thanks redrobot | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | tmcpeak: lol | 17:26 |
| browne | tmcpeak: sure, i'll be there | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:26 |
| redrobot | PSA for those who will be attending, the Swedish metal band Ghost is playing at Emo's in Austin on Monday night (the first day of the summit). | 17:26 |
| elmiko | lol, nice | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | redrobot bknudson browne: let's synch on Bandit peddling :) | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Guest: Kolla | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | sdake: | 17:27 |
| sdake | hey folks - name is Steve - I'm PTL for Kolla for Mitaka | 17:27 |
| sdake | I am organizing an effort to get the vulnerability:managed tag applied to our repo | 17:27 |
| sdake | which means we haev a super big ask of someone | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:28 |
| sdake | and that is a security audit of the kolla code base | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | gmurphy: loves tasks | 17:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: likes them too :P | 17:28 |
| sdake | we are adding bandit atm | 17:28 |
| sdake | and maybe a container security linter called clair | 17:28 |
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| sdake | bandit is in the code base, but going voting soon | 17:28 |
| sdake | note most of our code is not python | 17:28 |
| sdake | but ansible and docker stuff | 17:28 |
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| sdake | so it will be a failry new experience for most ;) | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | interesting | 17:29 |
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| sdake | so any takers | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | what's your timeframe? | 17:30 |
| sdake | we have a team already developed to fix security vulnerailities | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | I mean what do you want to have accomplished and by when? | 17:30 |
| sdake | tmcpeak anytime before the end of newton is good d;) | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | So I ran kolla through Bandit and pushed the reports back to sdake already | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | how about threat analysis? | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | that should probably be a first step | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | I'm interested in participating in that | 17:30 |
| sdake | hyakuhei ya we already have bandit in the repo | 17:30 |
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| sdake | we are working on sorting out the bandit reports | 17:30 |
| sdake | but there is more to an audit then that i think - not sure | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | There’s a _lot_ | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | yeah so ideally we'll start with a TA and diagrams, and do some code review | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | at minimum | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | This covers some of the basics https://openstack-security.github.io/threatanalysis/2016/02/07/anchorTA.html | 17:31 |
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| tmcpeak | code review is more effective if we have a TA first so we know where the high risk locations are | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | In the context of what is probably the simplest project, Anchor. | 17:31 |
| sdake | what i'm looking for is someone that the TC honors on security matters to say "yup their opinion is good enough for an audit to meet the audited requirement of the vulnerability:managed flag" | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | Indeed | 17:31 |
| sdake | define TA? | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | I dont think the audited requirement is fair | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: how about we set up a TA with you, a few of us, and a few core Kolla contribs | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: ta = threat analysis | 17:31 |
| sdake | hyakuhei i dont make the rules, just follow the process ;) | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | sdake: TA -> https://openstack-security.github.io/collaboration/2016/01/16/threat-analysis.html | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | I’d like to see the ‘audit’ for Nova…. | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | basically you guys generate architecture diagrams and then we walk them with security and project experts | 17:32 |
| sdake | hyakuhei ya for real | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: yeah I don't think the audits really happen | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | that being said it would be very useful | 17:32 |
| sdake | tmcpeak so a TA I think would be good | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Sure | 17:32 |
| sdake | and i can work with the TC to get the wording changed to threat analysis in the git repo for the vulnerability managed tag | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: great, so let's schedule some time for us to do a web call | 17:33 |
| sdake | if that is what the security team wants | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | who from here is interested in participating in the Kolla TA? | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:33 |
| sdake | o/ | 17:33 |
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| sdake | i'll get some folks from kolla side as well | 17:33 |
| sdake | they just arent in this meeting | 17:33 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | o/ | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | perfect | 17:33 |
| sdake | we have a 5 person coresec team to handle vulnerabilities out of our 12 person core reviewer team | 17:34 |
| tkelsey | what timezone? | 17:34 |
| sdake | US/EU tz works best | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey: we'll pick something neutral | 17:34 |
| singlethink | o/ | 17:34 |
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| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:34 |
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| tkelsey | cool, well o/ then :) | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | seems like good interest | 17:34 |
| sdake | 6am pst - 9 am pst looks good for our end | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: so the starting place should be architecture diagrams, you guys in good shape with that? | 17:35 |
| sdake | what do we need in terms of prep - just some arch diagrams? | 17:35 |
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| sdake | we have no such thing unfortunately | 17:35 |
| sdake | but we can produce it | 17:35 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: do we have a TA template from our midcycle? | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | draw.io ftw. | 17:35 |
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| sdake | if your open to it, we oculd do the TA at the austin summit | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | ^ that | 17:35 |
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| dave-mccowan | sdake will there be a summit session for Kolla Security? | 17:36 |
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| elmiko | if we do it at summit, i'm way interesting in participating | 17:36 |
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| sdake | dave-mccowan we can make that happen - might be better then a web call | 17:36 |
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| sdake | up to you folks really - your the experts in this area :) | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | several of us won't be there but I can dial in | 17:36 |
| sdake | I think we are breaking new groudn with how to do vulnerability:managed | 17:36 |
| elmiko | oh right... doh | 17:36 |
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| sdake | i can put my cell pn speakerphone | 17:37 |
| elmiko | sdake: definitely, and worth it imo | 17:37 |
| sdake | whatever works best | 17:37 |
| sdake | web call, or summit | 17:37 |
| sdake | your call :) | 17:37 |
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| elmiko | defer to tmcpeak, he seems to be leading the charge ;) | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | TBH summit might make sense | 17:37 |
| sdake | in the meantime we have some architecture diagrams to put together | 17:37 |
| sdake | i'll get with tmcpeak then when we have diagrams ready to roll? | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | I also think summit makes sense | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | excellent | 17:38 |
| sdake | cool thanks folks for the time :) | 17:38 |
| sdake | the only problem with summit is i dont want to exclude anyone | 17:38 |
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| elmiko | summit would be cool, just don't want the vidconf bandwidth to impede things | 17:39 |
| sdake | so if that would be exclusionary let me know | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: nice to see projects very interested in security :) | 17:39 |
| tkelsey | sdake: thanks for dropping in :) | 17:39 |
| sdake | but prime time at summit might be good | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | allright | 17:39 |
| sdake | thanks tkelsey :) | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | anybody do anything on publicity or plan to? | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | #topic publicity | 17:39 |
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| yaya | hi all. Sorry to jump in late :). quick update on Syntribos: we’re working on various items of the blueprints here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/syntribos. We’re also working on adding more tests, refactoring the code base to remove irrelevant pieces and add some automation where applicable, and improving documentation. | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Syntribos | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | yaya: I haven't played with it in a while | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | how's it going? | 17:40 |
| yaya | going OK. making steady progress | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | cool, what's the gameplan? | 17:41 |
| yaya | we’re juggling with other stuff wchich kinda slow us down but recently got a couple of folks dedicated to Syntribos so things should pick up much faster | 17:41 |
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| tkelsey | yaya: nice | 17:42 |
| yaya | gameplan for the nearest future: better docs and more fuzzing tests added | 17:42 |
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| tmcpeak | yaya: sounds good | 17:42 |
| yaya | plus testing Syntribos in mature environments :) | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah I'd be curious how that goes | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic OSSN | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | looks like we've got 2 new ones? | 17:44 |
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| tmcpeak | this one looks solid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1507841 | 17:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507841 in Trove "mongodb guest instance allows any user to connect" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matthew Van Dijk (mvandijk) | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | oh cool. I might try to pick one up this week | 17:44 |
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| hyakuhei | ouch | 17:45 |
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| tmcpeak | allright | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Refstack | 17:46 |
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| tmcpeak | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23refstack/%23refstack.2016-03-14.log.html#t2016-03-14T20:03:21 | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | what’s this all about? | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko's baby | 17:47 |
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| elmiko | well, the refstack folks are looking for some insight | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | so generally I can't see a reason to list all users non-priv'd users | 17:47 |
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| tmcpeak | least priv should dictate that you can't | 17:47 |
| elmiko | they are coming up against a minor issue involving replicating user information into their metadata | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | Oh I see | 17:48 |
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| elmiko | i really think we just need a little outreach to the refstack group, maybe at their meeting, and we can help them out | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | Not paid all that much attention to refstack | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | yeah I dunno what refstack is | 17:48 |
| elmiko | me neither, but i saw them talking about security advice so i poked my head in | 17:48 |
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| elmiko | ideally, talking to catherineD in #refstack is the starting point | 17:48 |
| elmiko | i can pick for some more details and maybe we can find sometime to meet | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | cool, sounds good | 17:49 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic AOB | 17:49 |
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| hyakuhei | Anchor + Magnum Things? | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: was really interested in that but I think he bounced | 17:50 |
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| elmiko | so, is this about anchor being deployed into the magnum bays(i think), to provide CA on those clusters? | 17:50 |
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| hyakuhei | From what I understand of their use case Anchor probably makes sense. Getting people to understand private community PKI has been tricky | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: it should work for that | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | Pretty much designed to allow that sort of operation | 17:51 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: i was just curious about what the issue here is | 17:51 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:51 |
| elmiko | given how magnum deploys it's infra, it certainly seems like they might need portable, ephemeral pki for the bays | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | makes sense. The ephemeralness might hurt them though | 17:52 |
| * elmiko hopes he his getting the magnum terminology correct | 17:52 | |
| elmiko | how so? | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | Depends, I mean, if we’re talking k8 pods, replacing certs should be ok | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | Some systems get grumpy having their certs ripped and replaced often. | 17:53 |
| elmiko | ah, ok | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | todo: elmiko to fix grumpiness | 17:53 |
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| hyakuhei | Those systems are dumb | 17:53 |
| elmiko | i can still see how they would want a solution that could be deployed into the bay structure | 17:53 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: lol | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | But k8 front ends lots of things with a LB so that might not be an issue. | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | Research required. | 17:54 |
| elmiko | well also, we are talking about a CA that get deployed with the entire k8s/swarm/mesos infra on a per project basis | 17:54 |
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| elmiko | so these could appear and disappear depending on the individual use case, they *may* not be long living installs | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | If you ignore the fact that revocation doesn’t work. Killick might make more sense | 17:55 |
| elmiko | could be | 17:55 |
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| elmiko | i think they might just need some sort of lightweight pki that can go in to the deployments. mind you, this would be outside the control plane pki stuff | 17:56 |
| hyakuhei | yeah. Anchor would be a good fit if it doesn’t make things grumpy | 17:56 |
| elmiko | but, i'm just speculating here. i'm still not exactly sure what the concrete problem we are solving is | 17:56 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:56 |
| elmiko | why does anchor draw so much hate? | 17:56 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah what's the context here? | 17:56 |
| sdake | anchor does draw no hate from magnum | 17:56 |
| elmiko | well that's good to hear =) | 17:57 |
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| sdake | from my understanding (I haven't been involved in magnum for 6 months) | 17:57 |
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| sdake | they want to make the key architecture pluggable | 17:57 |
| sdake | that is what we originally agreed to, but now its hard coded to one dep only | 17:57 |
| elmiko | ah, ok. i was kinda wondering about that | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | ahh | 17:57 |
| sdake | hongbin (running for ptl) wants to make this modular as well | 17:58 |
| elmiko | by default would you want to plug into an existing pki? (i would think most would just want something that works out of the box) | 17:58 |
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| hyakuhei | elmiko: it doesn’t, it’s just not many people understand PKI well and fewer understand how screwed up PKI is. | 17:58 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: lol | 17:58 |
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| tmcpeak | the horrors hyakuhei has seen | 17:59 |
| elmiko | yea totally | 17:59 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:59 |
| elmiko | 1 min left... | 17:59 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks y'all | 17:59 |
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| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:59 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 17:59:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-03-17-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-03-17-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-03-17-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak, hyakuhei | 17:59 |
| tmcpeak | lol, not SSO again | 17:59 |
| tkelsey | thanks all, thanks for joining sdake | 18:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks! | 18:00 |
| sdake | thanks for your time :) | 18:00 |
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| elmiko | o/ | 18:00 |
| huichun | Hello | 18:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 18:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
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| vgridnev | hi | 18:00 |
| esikachev | o/ | 18:00 |
| tosky | hi | 18:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:00 |
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| vgridnev | working almost on bug fixing and testing sahara, some internal stuff | 18:01 |
| mionkin | hi, I've just finished support of usage hadoop swiftfs with Keystone API v3 by adding hadoop-openstack.jar into plugins images | 18:01 |
| esikachev | worked on nightly jobs. Merged! :) | 18:01 |
| elmiko | i'm mainly working on api v2, and a little on talk for summit. also, we have completed the bandit work and it is all green now =) | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info I'm stepping down as PTL, staying around w/ a project, always ready to help | 18:01 |
| huichun | Working on patch review and EDP | 18:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | the RC1 will be today | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | updating my repos right now | 18:02 |
| * elmiko raises a glass to SergeyLukjanov ;) | 18:02 | |
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| vgridnev | thanks SergeyLukjanov ! | 18:02 |
| * SergeyLukjanov planning to have a beers in Austin ;) | 18:02 | |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:03 |
| huichun | Thanks SergeyLukjanov | 18:03 |
| tosky | yes, right, thanks SergeyLukjanov | 18:03 |
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| tosky | trying to migrate sahara tempest API tests to sahara-tests _with_ history | 18:03 |
| vgridnev | and also, I brought my candidacy for PTL role in Newton | 18:04 |
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| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293987/ | 18:04 |
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| crobertsrh | I've mostly been testing out the UI. I added myself to a couple bugs that I hope to fix soon. | 18:04 |
| elmiko | vgridnev: +1, thanks! | 18:05 |
| crobertsrh | great news vgridnev :) | 18:05 |
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| huichun | Cong vgridnev ! | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky no way to migrate with history actually ;) | 18:05 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: I think it is | 18:05 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: but let's talk later, if there are other topic | 18:06 |
| tosky | topics* | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sure | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's move on? | 18:06 |
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| carolbarrett | I'd like to have a few mins to talk about Sahara input for the Community roadmap, if possible | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic OpenStack Community Roadmap - Sahara info review (Carol Barrett) (I can only attend for the 1st 30 mins) | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett sure | 18:07 |
| elmiko | thanks carolbarrett =) | 18:07 |
| carolbarrett | Thanks Sergey | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Link to the draft: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1CwHEYE1YDRoHIaFQjN2wwEnj5ZQEUkIsCJwl9NG-f0A/edit?usp=sharing | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | Link to roadmap published for Tokyo Summit: https://www.openstack.org/assets/tokyo-summit/OpenStack-Roadmap-Mitaka-Update.pptx | 18:08 |
| carolbarrett | I'll start with a little background | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett sorry for the no replies from my sight... | 18:08 |
| elmiko | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1CwHEYE1YDRoHIaFQjN2wwEnj5ZQEUkIsCJwl9NG-f0A/edit?usp=sharing | 18:08 |
| elmiko | #link https://www.openstack.org/assets/tokyo-summit/OpenStack-Roadmap-Mitaka-Update.pptx | 18:08 |
| carolbarrett | elmiko: Thanks! | 18:08 |
| carolbarrett | I'm part of the Product Work Group. This team produces a couple of deliverables like User Stories to bring requirements from markets (like enterprise) into the community | 18:09 |
| carolbarrett | As well as producing a multi-release roadmap that gets released ahead of Summits and updated after the Design Summit dust settles | 18:09 |
| carolbarrett | we do this in collaboration with the OpenStack foundation | 18:10 |
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| carolbarrett | I was asked to reach out to you all and create a page on Sahara | 18:10 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 18:10 |
| carolbarrett | That's in the 1st link posted | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett thank you! | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I like the slide for Sahara and the items seems to be correct (#1 link) | 18:10 |
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| carolbarrett | SergeyLukjanov: Thanks! Glad to hear that! | 18:11 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, the slide looks good | 18:11 |
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| carolbarrett | I could use a bit more info on a couple of these to be able to speak to them. | 18:11 |
| huichun | Nice slide carolbarrett | 18:11 |
| carolbarrett | I looked in your specs, launchpad, etc to put this together. | 18:11 |
| carolbarrett | Is there any other place that I could look to find the details on SPI method for example? | 18:12 |
| carolbarrett | And pls - go ahead and edit the slide to improve the content! | 18:12 |
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| carolbarrett | Is there more we can say, directionally, about Ocata? | 18:13 |
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| elmiko | carolbarrett: in general, this is the documentation for our spi methods docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/devref/plugin.spi.html | 18:13 |
| elmiko | it's not very descriptive, but gives a developer eye view | 18:13 |
| carolbarrett | elmiko: Thanks! | 18:13 |
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| elmiko | the method in question, i believe was the validate(cluster) | 18:14 |
| elmiko | i think we have more info on the way images are validated, let me look | 18:14 |
| * elmiko rifles through links | 18:14 | |
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| elmiko | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/mitaka/validate-image-spi.html | 18:15 |
| vgridnev | elmiko, yeah, you are right, but I was not landed into Mitaka release, as far I know | 18:15 |
| elmiko | that's the dirty details ;) | 18:15 |
| elmiko | vgridnev: i might have the wrong method there | 18:15 |
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| carolbarrett | vgridnev: Can we verify whether it has landed in Mitaka? | 18:16 |
| sreshetnyak | o/ | 18:16 |
| carolbarrett | And if it didn't land, should we push to Newton? | 18:16 |
| vgridnev | 1min | 18:16 |
| vgridnev | seems it's on review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263424/ | 18:17 |
| carolbarrett | This is the type of feedback I'm looking for, want to make sure that the info is accurate and covers the most siginificant new capabilities that were added in Mitaka | 18:17 |
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| vgridnev | Yeah, I think that we should push that to the Newton release | 18:17 |
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| carolbarrett | vgridnev: will make the change | 18:17 |
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| elmiko | vgridnev: +1 | 18:18 |
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| carolbarrett | what else do we need to change? | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | (no ideas from my side) | 18:18 |
| elmiko | the mitaka portion looks ok to me | 18:19 |
| elmiko | do we need to add any other deprecations? | 18:19 |
| vgridnev | I think no, but probably we should mention with MapR versions were removed | 18:19 |
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| carolbarrett | SergeyLukjanov: You think the slide calls out the top priorities for the project as you go into the Newton Design Sessions? | 18:19 |
| vgridnev | or just mention which are still there, MapR 500 and MapR 510 are still there | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett I think so | 18:20 |
| carolbarrett | vgridnev: What do we need to change on the "Remove" entry under mitaka? | 18:20 |
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| carolbarrett | SergeyLukjanov: Are there any other ongoing or long term areas for enhancement or expansion that we would want to call out? | 18:21 |
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| elmiko | apiv2? | 18:21 |
| vgridnev | I would say all MapR plugin versions were removed except for 500 and 510 | 18:21 |
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| elmiko | carolbarrett: we are currently working on a new version of our api, it definitely qualifies as long term ;) | 18:21 |
| carolbarrett | This could be based upon changes in other OpenStack Proects, Big Tent direction, etc? | 18:22 |
| carolbarrett | Modularity, scalability, etc? | 18:22 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko yeah, I think v2 API could be added as on-going work for the next releases | 18:22 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett ^^ | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett there is an often requested to support new plugins in old sahara releases | 18:22 |
| huichun | SergeyLukjanov: may I request EDP engine parts enhancement to be added in? | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett so we want to do something with it, but no clear plans yet. there is too high coupling between sahara and plugins to support moving them to previous releases | 18:23 |
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| carolbarrett | What's the right wording for the v2 API? Is it about enhancing existing APIs or developing new ones or compatibility, etc? | 18:24 |
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| carolbarrett | SergeyLukjanov: Understand the compatibility challenge.... | 18:24 |
| carolbarrett | we can leave that out if you want | 18:25 |
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| huichun | EDP log enhancement and Multiple EDP workflow support | 18:25 |
| esikachev | sahara-tests separation appropriate? | 18:25 |
| carolbarrett | what about the EDP engine ehancements - should we carry that over to Newton? If so, any specific focus of that work that we can highlight? | 18:25 |
| elmiko | carolbarrett: v2 is about enhancing/rewriting portions of existing api, and improving developer experience | 18:25 |
| elmiko | it is a major version bump | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett working on a new api that'll provide more clear and flexible endpoint for end users based on the existing one IMO | 18:25 |
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| carolbarrett | got it. | 18:26 |
| carolbarrett | what about EDP engine suggestion? | 18:26 |
| huichun | carolbarrett: EDP log enhancement, we should add user friendly info to end user, and support multiple EDP workflow | 18:26 |
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| carolbarrett | huichun: Thanks | 18:28 |
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| carolbarrett | Good stuff! | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett anything else to discuss on this topic? | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | carolbarrett thx a lot, great job in putting this items together! | 18:29 |
| carolbarrett | SergeyLukjanov: I think I got what I need. I'll update the slide and send a not on ML for any addl comments | 18:29 |
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| carolbarrett | SergeyLukjanov: Happy to help out, this is good stuff for our users and market! | 18:29 |
| elmiko | +1, thanks carolbarrett ! | 18:29 |
| carolbarrett | thanks for your help elmiko! | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic API v2 progress | 18:30 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273316/ | 18:30 |
| elmiko | hey | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/api-v2 | 18:30 |
| elmiko | all the work items have been added to the wiki | 18:30 |
| elmiko | i am currently working on writing the specs for some of the bigger foundational features | 18:30 |
| elmiko | a couple of red hatters have signed on to work on portions of this as well | 18:31 |
| elmiko | so, hopefully over the next few weeks we'll start to put some reviews up | 18:31 |
| elmiko | but, these can all wait until after mitaka release is finalized and freeze is over | 18:31 |
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| elmiko | i think that's about it for current status, any questions? | 18:31 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko cool, thx for the update! | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Scenario tests releases | 18:32 |
| elmiko | =) | 18:32 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, esikachev your turn | 18:32 |
| tosky | so | 18:33 |
| esikachev | tosky: what about moving tempest? | 18:33 |
| esikachev | tests) | 18:33 |
| tosky | I spoke with -infra, and they told me that a way is possible | 18:33 |
| tosky | the idea is: push the filtered changes to a clean (orphan) branch, merge it, and request a special ACL to be able to push a merge commit to gerrit for review | 18:34 |
| tosky | you can see how it would look like from the master branch here: https://github.com/ltoscano-rh/sahara-tests | 18:34 |
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| tosky | after that the code is merged, we can move it around/add tempest plugin interface with no issues | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky yeah, I think we can do it, I could help from infra root side | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | about the move itself, I'm pretty neutral | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sreshetnyak was having some concerns AFAIK | 18:35 |
| tosky | ok, so I will recheck that it is working, and if you are fine, I will proceed with this | 18:35 |
| tosky | sure, which kind of concerns? | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | while waiting for concerns | 18:36 |
| tosky | tempest will (in the long run) keep only core parts and tests (mainly scenario) for core services | 18:36 |
| * tosky waits | 18:36 | |
| sreshetnyak | tosky: what about release scenario framework and tempest tests? | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | esikachev tosky what are you guys thinking about release sahara-tests? | 18:37 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: as I said, I'm fine with that | 18:37 |
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| esikachev | SergeyLukjanov: all ready from my side | 18:37 |
| sreshetnyak | we want release tempest tests with framework? | 18:37 |
| tosky | esikachev: did you try to pip install it? Does it work? | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | esikachev what's the release model, versioning, release criteria? | 18:37 |
| tosky | sreshetnyak: if they are part of sahara-tests, yes, tempest-like tests for API would be released as well | 18:38 |
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| esikachev | SergeyLukjanov: criteria: all tests for testing sahara-release merged | 18:38 |
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| tosky | but if we keep the sahara-tests like tempest, so branchless and able to support all supported openstack releases, then it's not different from tempest "releases" | 18:39 |
| esikachev | tosky: no, i am worked on nightly-jobs. but i tried it today | 18:39 |
| tosky | (users could always use the master, like for tempest) | 18:39 |
| esikachev | *try | 18:39 |
| tosky | esikachev: oh, perfect; I think there could be some issues with some relative paths | 18:39 |
| tosky | at least that's the effect I've seen in a draft RPM package for sahara-tests | 18:40 |
| tosky | like this morning, and I couldn't investigate | 18:40 |
| sreshetnyak | so, can we have tempest tests for testing releases? | 18:40 |
| tosky | sreshetnyak: having tempest tests in sahara-tests instead of tempest is not different from the current situation, they are just in a different (but more proper) location | 18:41 |
| tosky | imho | 18:41 |
| huichun | tosky: tempest test for independent release? | 18:41 |
| tosky | huichun: what do you mean by independent release? | 18:42 |
| huichun | Current tempest is out of Sahara-tests, right? | 18:42 |
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| sreshetnyak | tosky: what about packaging? we should pack only scenario framework? | 18:43 |
| esikachev | tosky: AFAIK, we need a spec | 18:43 |
| tosky | huichun: current tempest tests are for API and are in tempest repo | 18:44 |
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| tosky | sreshetnyak: why should we package only scenario frameworks? I think everything from that repo could be package | 18:44 |
| tosky | I mean, it's all like before, because sahara-tests (for previous discussions) is brancheless like tempest, but it is a better fit because | 18:45 |
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| tosky | - it's a non-core project | 18:45 |
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| tosky | - sahara-tests reviews do not require tempest core | 18:45 |
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| tosky | esikachev: a spec for the move? | 18:46 |
| esikachev | yes | 18:46 |
| esikachev | SergeyLukjanov: what did you think?^^ | 18:46 |
| sreshetnyak | tosky: I don't see reasons for pack tempest tests. we don't have ability for installing all dependencies, like tempest | 18:47 |
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| tosky | sreshetnyak: iirc there are no additional dependencies apart from tempest(.lib) itself | 18:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | esikachev honestly don't have specific thoughts about move | 18:47 |
| tosky | sreshetnyak: and if you want to run the tests, you require tempest, so the dependencies come from tempest | 18:48 |
| sreshetnyak | tosky: ah, ok. I don't know it | 18:48 |
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| tosky | sreshetnyak: what were talking about is this: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html | 18:48 |
| tosky | sreshetnyak: it's the same mechanism we applied to python-saharaclient tests currently in sahara (sahara/tests/tempest/scenario/data_processing) | 18:49 |
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| esikachev | any questions? | 18:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think it's now cleared out | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky esikachev thx folks for driving the sahara-tests | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Newton summit topics | 18:51 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, I've created the etherpad for it | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-newton-summit | 18:51 |
| elmiko | i added a bunch of stuff to the etherpad | 18:51 |
| elmiko | just trying to suggest some things | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | please, start adding discussion topics to it | 18:51 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discssion | 18:53 |
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| tmckay | I have a few discussion topics on deprecations, maybe | 18:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay dump any ideas | 18:54 |
| tmckay | 1) depreate internal db for job binaries | 18:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's better to have more topics than less ;) | 18:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay ++ | 18:54 |
| elmiko | we actually had someone asking about that last night | 18:54 |
| tmckay | 2) deprecate use_namespaces -- I've found 2 bugs with it already, maybe a 3rd (currently looking) and it seems very very fragile. problem is .... | 18:54 |
| tmckay | with multi-tenant and many private networks that could overlap, is there another good solution? | 18:55 |
| tmckay | like configure neutron to just handle it | 18:55 |
| tmckay | so bug #1, frozen dict, it didn't work with spark/storm, #2 couldn't get routers, #3 on ubuntu right now I am dying on a pickle error | 18:55 |
| openstack | bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to MFauzilkamil Zainuddin (apogee) | 18:55 |
| tmckay | and that's after going through the pain of setting up root-wrap | 18:56 |
| tmckay | heh | 18:56 |
| tmckay | thanks openstack | 18:56 |
| tmckay | so, anyway, I'll add to the pad, but there's a summary | 18:56 |
| elmiko | whoa, that was cool | 18:56 |
| elmiko | bug #2 | 18:56 |
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| tmckay | also, the old topic we always have -- make bug reporting better, and harvest job logs | 18:56 |
| elmiko | sorry, just had to try | 18:57 |
| tmckay | :) lol | 18:57 |
| tmckay | elmiko, talking it over with someone today I realized that multiple private nets say on 192.168.x.y from a script to set up tenants would be ambiguous from the controller | 18:57 |
| tmckay | hence the namespaces | 18:57 |
| elmiko | that makes sense | 18:58 |
| elmiko | i agree in general, though, we should have a session on deprecations | 18:58 |
| tmckay | but there may be a way to shepherd around that, or at least make the stuff under the covers less complex / more robust | 18:58 |
| elmiko | and everyone can bring their favorite thing to deprecate to that session ;) | 18:58 |
| tmckay | hadoop .... just kidding :) spark ftw | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:58 |
| elmiko | lol! | 18:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 1 min left | 18:59 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, PTL? deprecate SergeyLukjanov ;-) | 18:59 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ;( | 18:59 |
| huichun | PTL HA? | 18:59 |
| tmckay | ++ | 19:00 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, you will be missed | 19:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thx folks! | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 19:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-03-17-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-03-17-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-03-17-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
| elmiko | thanks SergeyLukjanov | 19:00 |
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