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| haleyb | hi, anyone else here for the dvr meeting? | 14:00 |
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| haleyb | or maybe i'm an hour off | 14:02 |
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| Swami | hi | 14:59 |
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| haleyb | hi swami, i finallly have the right time | 14:59 |
| Swami | haleyb: nice | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 15:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| Swami | with time change it is difficult to remember. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | some were automatically moved an hour, some not :-/ | 15:01 |
| Swami | obondarev: ping | 15:01 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes, it is a pain | 15:01 |
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| obondarev | o/ | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | For those not following the neutron channel this morning, seems there is one more patch to land before RC1 is cut | 15:02 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes I saw that. | 15:02 |
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| haleyb | most of the rest of our work here is fixing bugs :( so I'll pass it along | 15:03 |
| Swami | haleyb: are we expecting an RC2 | 15:03 |
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| haleyb | Swami: i don't know | 15:03 |
| haleyb | Oh, I guess one other announcement is that the neutron side of the live migration work merged, thanks for sticking with it Swami | 15:04 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes the nova side is still out there, I am not sure if it would make it in the Mitaka | 15:04 |
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| Swami | the bug was downgraded from mitaka-rc-potential recently on nova, so don't know the status at this point. | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | that's probably not a good sign it will merge | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:06 | |
| Swami | This week we saw a bunch of bugs land in dvr world | 15:06 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1557909 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557909 in neutron "SNAT namespace is not getting cleared after the manual move of SNAT with dead agent" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:06 |
| Swami | This issue is not seen in master and only seen in liberty, I need re-confirm this with liberty and then see what might be causing the problem. This happens when the agent dies and there is an snat namespace already in the node. By the time the agent restarts, the snat is moved and the stale SNAT namespace is still in this node. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | This does not cause any SNAT traffic issue, but just a cosmetic issue where the SNAT namespace is still there. | 15:09 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:10 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1552070 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552070 in neutron "Two functional test method in TestDvrRouter don't work to dual_stack case" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to ZongKai LI (lzklibj) | 15:10 |
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| Swami | This seems to be more straight forward for the functional tests not handling the dual stack case. | 15:11 |
| Swami | lzklibj is working on it. | 15:11 |
| Swami | The next item in the list is. | 15:11 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1557290 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557290 in neutron "DVR FIP agent gateway does not pass traffic directed at fixed IP" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:12 |
| Swami | This is not a bug as such but a requirement by BGP to forward traffic to private IP without using the FIP IP from the fip namespace. | 15:12 |
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| Swami | This should be a wishlist item and let see how we can make it to work in newton, otherwise we might have an issue with North-South routing and BGP. | 15:13 |
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| haleyb | yes, more of an RFE/enhancement | 15:13 |
| Swami | At this point, do we also need to file an RFE for this? What do you think | 15:13 |
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| haleyb | let's keep as a bug for now, but we'll need something to track "direct routing" for tenant private networks since there is also the IPv6 case | 15:14 |
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| Swami | haleyb: agreed | 15:15 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:15 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1555382 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555382 in neutron " Queries for DVR-aware floating IP next-hop lookups" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:15 |
| Swami | This is a documentation bug for the BGP Nexthop queries. | 15:15 |
| Swami | I will check with tidwellr and see if he has a patch for it. I know that he was working on a patch. | 15:16 |
| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:16 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1558046 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1558046 in neutron "DVR functional test fails on devstack" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:16 |
| Swami | This bug has been triaged as Incomplete since it can't be reproduced. So nothing much to add on it. | 15:17 |
| Swami | The next one is | 15:17 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1558097 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1558097 in neutron "DVR SNAT HA - Documentation for Networking guide" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:17 |
| Swami | This is again a documentation bug for the DVR SNAT HA. Adolfo is working on a doc patch and will update the bug with that patch. | 15:18 |
| Swami | That's all with the new bugs. | 15:18 |
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| Swami | Let us look at the old unresolved bugs. | 15:19 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1462154 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips if VMs are on the same network" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:19 |
| Swami | Currently there are couple of patches to address this same bug from different owners. | 15:20 |
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| haleyb | regarding the devstack bug 1558046 above, I've seen functional test failures due to bad packages, but continue on | 15:20 |
| openstack | bug 1558046 in neutron "DVR functional test fails on devstack" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1558046 | 15:20 |
| Swami | We may have to decide the behavior. This use case itself is a corner case were someone is trying to ping a VM on the same network using thier floatingIP. | 15:21 |
| Swami | haleyb: got it, thanks. | 15:21 |
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| Swami | There is currently a discussion in the patch below. | 15:22 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289172/ | 15:22 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, this FIP bug has had many patches proposed, I have not caught-up with that patch | 15:22 |
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| Swami | It is claimed that if the VMs reside on the same network, even if we ping with the FloatingIP the traffic should not go out. | 15:23 |
| Swami | Which does not sound right to me. | 15:23 |
| haleyb | how can a VM ping with its FIP? it has to be off-fixed-network for NAT to trigger, VM has no control | 15:24 |
| Swami | But I have asked also carl_baldwin to comment on this, since i had a discussion with him regarding this fix. | 15:24 |
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| Swami | Yes, if the VM has NAT enabled, should the traffic go out of SNAT gw port and come in on FIP gateway port. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | This is the behavior we have in DVR. | 15:25 |
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| obondarev | I guess ssh does not work in this case | 15:26 |
| obondarev | and this is a more important bug | 15:26 |
| Swami | obondarev: in which case you mean ssh does not work. | 15:27 |
| obondarev | when both VMs reside on the same compute node | 15:27 |
| obondarev | one with and one without floating ip | 15:27 |
| haleyb | i think so, even though it doesn't seem optimal it just follows routing. is ssh not working an MTU issue? or? | 15:27 |
| obondarev | not sure, need to check | 15:27 |
| Swami | with the patch that i posted above, it seems the ssh is working, since we removed the ip on the 'rfp' interface. | 15:28 |
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| Swami | Ok, let us have more discussion on the patch for now and let us move on. This behavior has to be fixed, whichever is the right one. | 15:29 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:30 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1541406 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541406 in neutron "IPv6 prefix delegation does not work with DVR" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ritesh Anand (ritesh-anand) | 15:30 |
| haleyb | :( | 15:30 |
| Swami | There is a patch out there for review. | 15:30 |
| haleyb | there is a parent patch as well that has not merged | 15:31 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277657/ | 15:31 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes I knew that. | 15:31 |
| haleyb | this looks like newton, with backports | 15:31 |
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| Swami | The next one is | 15:32 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445255 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445255 in neutron "DVR FloatingIP to unbound allowed_address_pairs does not work" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:32 |
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| Swami | I think haleyb you have already blessed this patch. But I need one more core to take a look at it. | 15:32 |
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| haleyb | yes, that patch looks good to me | 15:33 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I saw a mail in upstream yesterday about this patch | 15:35 |
| Swami | can it merge for mitaka or is it going to be for newton. | 15:35 |
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| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:36 |
| haleyb | think it's newton | 15:37 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:37 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:37 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1414559 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1414559 in neutron "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration - VM temporarily disconnected" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:37 |
| Swami | obondarev: has these patches landed in Mitaka | 15:38 |
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| obondarev | still on review | 15:38 |
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| obondarev | gets not much attention | 15:38 |
| Swami | obondarev: ok | 15:38 |
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| Swami | obondarev: let us review it and push it in. Is it delayed on the nova side or neutron side | 15:39 |
| obondarev | Swami: both sides | 15:39 |
| Swami | obondarev: ok, thanks | 15:39 |
| Swami | That's all I had for bugs. | 15:40 |
| Swami | haleyb: back to you | 15:40 |
| haleyb | thanks Swami | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | #topic Gate Failures | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | Things seemed to calm down Monday according to https://goo.gl/L1WODG but multi-node jobs increased today | 15:42 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes I saw that. | 15:42 |
| haleyb | I don't have an answer, haven't looked into it yet | 15:43 |
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| Swami | haleyb: do you know what is causing this multi node failure | 15:44 |
| obondarev | I saw a couple of timeouts | 15:44 |
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| obondarev | job timeouts | 15:44 |
| Swami | obondarev: ok | 15:44 |
| haleyb | obondarev: generic ones not related to neutron? | 15:45 |
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| obondarev | haleyb: yeah, like not enough time to complete all the tests | 15:45 |
| haleyb | so i guess we watch and wait | 15:46 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:47 |
| haleyb | and i see grafana doesn't have the multi-node jobs, must only have voting jobs. If i find a failure I'll look into it | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:48 |
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| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:48 |
| haleyb | Anyone have anything else? Any lurkers? :) | 15:49 |
| Swami | I just had a quick question on the live-migration | 15:49 |
| Swami | We decided that we will add the status notification to nova as a follow up. Since this one requires that the nova should wait for the live migration to happen, probably we should put together a blueprint for nova-neutron communication. | 15:50 |
| Swami | What do you guys think. Otherwise it may not move in Nova. | 15:50 |
| obondarev | well, actually I think it's not a big deal on nova side | 15:50 |
| Swami | obondarev: ok, so you think we can handle just with a bug | 15:51 |
| obondarev | it has a framework to wait for neutron events and it should be enough | 15:51 |
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| obondarev | I think yes, it should be just another place where nova will wait | 15:52 |
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| obondarev | like in my patch for dropped RARP packets during live migration | 15:52 |
| Swami | obondarev: ok I will look into it. | 15:52 |
| Swami | that's all I had | 15:53 |
| haleyb | ok, let's end it then | 15:54 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 15:54:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-03-16-15.00.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-03-16-15.00.txt | 15:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-03-16-15.00.log.html | 15:54 |
| Swami | thanks and bye to everyone | 15:54 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2ers! | 16:00 |
| scheuran | hi | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | Hi scheuran! | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | I’m seeing an error message as the channel meeting name - anyone else see this? | 16:02 |
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| scheuran | rkukura, not even seeing that a meeting has started... | 16:03 |
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| mkoderer___ | rkukura: yes I see "Launchpad OpenID SSO is currently experiencing issues preventing login. The Launchpad team is working on the issue" | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | mkoderer___: same here | 16:03 |
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| scheuran | ah, now I see it as well :) | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | sorry - was having channel issues | 16:03 |
| rkukura | we’ll see what happens when we try to start | 16:03 |
| rkukura | lets give it a try… | 16:04 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 16:04:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | that’s encouraging | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:05 |
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| mkoderer___ | works | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_16.2C_2016 | 16:05 |
| rkukura | Anything to add? | 16:05 |
| rkukura | Or subtract? | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Looks like mitaka stable branch should be created, so I guess Newton work is commencing | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Any other announcements? | 16:07 |
| rkukura | #topic Docs ML2 configuration section update | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282349 | 16:08 |
| scheuran | I updated the patch | 16:08 |
| rkukura | scheuran: thanks - anything to point out, other than encouraging reviews? | 16:08 |
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| scheuran | rkukura, no | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I had posted comments on earlier version | 16:09 |
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| scheuran | Sukhdev, saw that, thanks. I now posted a version that is free of any personal opinion I hope :) | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | scheuran : :-) | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | lets review and get this merged! | 16:10 |
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| scheuran | so nothing else on this | 16:10 |
| rkukura | #topic Routed networks discussion | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran : no worries - I will review it again.... | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/ | 16:10 |
| scheuran | Sukhdev, thanks! | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : I do not know if you had a chance to review this - but, the work has started on this | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I finally reviewed the current spec, and posted a couple comments | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | :-)\ | 16:11 |
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| rkukura | In general, I think we need to be careful about changing the meaning of a fundemental Neutron construct. | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | yup | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | Certainly HPB assumes L2 bridging between dynamic and static segments, and from the initial proposal, ML2 always assumed L2 bridging between segments | 16:14 |
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| rkukura | So if we go with this approach, I’d argue the ML2 default for l2_adjacency should be True | 16:14 |
| rkukura | I’m also not really clear from the spec on how this segment_host_mapping table is supposed to be used by the plugin itself | 16:16 |
| rkukura | Is the use case for routed networks one that involves lots of tenant-specific (routed) networks, or would this typically be shared by many tenants? | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | If the latter, I really don’t see an issue with having to pass in l2_adjacency=False when creating a routed network | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | Does anyone else have an opinion on any of this? | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | Or any other comments on the spec? | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | If not, we’ll move on, and maybe take this topic off the weekly agenda ;) | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | #topic port binding with port owned by router | 16:20 |
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| yamahata | Hi, I put that topic | 16:20 |
| rkukura | Can whomever added this to the agenda explain the issue? | 16:20 |
| rkukura | yamahata: ok, thanks | 16:21 |
| yamahata | I'd like to discuss that requirement for Newton cycle | 16:21 |
| yamahata | The background is as follows | 16:21 |
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| yamahata | the port is owned by router or other service. In my case, it's bgpvpn service. | 16:21 |
| yamahata | And it's servied by ODL. | 16:21 |
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| yamahata | we have enabled odl mech driver and sr-iov driver. | 16:22 |
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| yamahata | But the port is boound to sr-iov. | 16:22 |
| yamahata | I'd like to suppress binding to sr-iov somehow, when the port is owned by services. | 16:22 |
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| yamahata | Does this requirement make sense? | 16:23 |
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| rkukura | Shouldn’t the SR-IOV driver look at binding:vnic_rype to see whether it should bind? Or at least at binding:profile to see if it has the info it needs (from nova)? | 16:23 |
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| rkukura | Maybe this is a bug in the SR-IOV driver | 16:24 |
| yamahata | That sounds plausible. | 16:24 |
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| yamahata | Let me look into it. | 16:24 |
| rkukura | yamahata: I do agree there needs to be a way to suppress the SR-IOV driver from binging ports for which its not suitable. | 16:25 |
| rkukura | binding | 16:25 |
| rkukura | yamahata: should we followup on this at next week’s meeting? | 16:25 |
| yamahata | In general, I'd like to see port owner specify mech driver | 16:25 |
| yamahata | rkukura: not for next week. | 16:26 |
| yamahata | This is input for newton planning. We'll see. | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata rkukura : Sorry I stepped away | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata : I ran into similar situation at one of the customers site | 16:27 |
| rkukura | yamahata: I think the port owner can influence the binding through the binding:vnic_type, binding:profile and binding:host_id attributes, but shoudn’t really have to know the ML2 driver details of the delpyment | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : +1 | 16:27 |
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| yamahata | Got it. that sounds a way to go. | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata : I had to face similar situation - I used vnic-type and tenant-id to solve it - | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | keep in mind tenant-id is avaialble in the context as well | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | so, if the port is owned by service tenant - you can filter it that way as well | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | yamahata: Thanks for bringin this up - lets see if the existing attributes are sufficient, or if we need something new in Newton for this. | 16:29 |
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| yamahata | Sure. in odl case, port binding needs improvement. So those advise really help. | 16:29 |
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| rkukura | ok… | 16:30 |
| rkukura | #topic imulate portbinding on migration target host | 16:31 |
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| scheuran | that's me again | 16:31 |
| rkukura | scheuran: looks like you added this | 16:31 |
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| scheuran | so I have 2 use cases | 16:31 |
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| scheuran | Migration cross l2 agents (on host with lb, another with ovs), migration with macvtap l2 agent | 16:31 |
| scheuran | so it's about migration | 16:32 |
| scheuran | live migration | 16:32 |
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| scheuran | in case #1 nova needs to know which vnic_type is used on the target host | 16:32 |
| rkukura | scheuran: Are you saying both the old and new bindings need to exist at the same time during migration? | 16:32 |
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| scheuran | rkukura, I'm not sure | 16:33 |
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| scheuran | so the information that nova needs is: vnic_type and vif_details to be used on the target host | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | scheuran: Do you mean vif_type? | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | scheuran : I thought nova already has migration support | 16:33 |
| scheuran | oh yes | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | Normally, the tenant or nova would set vnic_type | 16:33 |
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| scheuran | sorry, I meant the vif_type | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | during migration, doesn’t nova currently update the port with the new binding:host_id, leaving the same values for binding:vnic_type and binding:profile? | 16:34 |
| scheuran | rkukura, it does, but after migration happened :( | 16:34 |
| scheuran | we would need that in pre-live migration | 16:35 |
| rkukura | does it need to do it sooner? | 16:35 |
| scheuran | right | 16:35 |
| scheuran | this would be one approach... | 16:35 |
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| scheuran | doing the binding in pre_live migration (before migration started) | 16:35 |
| scheuran | but not sure if this is the right approach | 16:35 |
| rkukura | what’s the issue with nova just doing this sooner - is it that connectivity for the old binding could be broken? | 16:35 |
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| scheuran | rkukura, what do you mean by that? | 16:36 |
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| scheuran | Making this call earlier would be the most simple implementation! | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | scheuran : you should check with Aaron - he worked on this and I remember he pointed out lots of race conditions when he was doing this | 16:37 |
| scheuran | Sukhdev, great pointer, thanks! | 16:37 |
| rkukura | scheuran: I’m just asking why having nova update the port with the new binding:host_id during pre-live migration isn’t sufficient | 16:37 |
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| scheuran | it would be sufficient! | 16:37 |
| rkukura | there could be race conditions around connectivity or around port status and all that | 16:38 |
| rkukura | including nova notifications | 16:38 |
| rkukura | I agree arosen may have some insite | 16:38 |
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| scheuran | ok, but you do not see a problem in general with first doing the port-binding, and then executing the migration? | 16:39 |
| scheuran | cause then I'll invest into this direction... | 16:39 |
| rkukura | I have some patches that have never merged that cleanup and start to generalize DVR’s distributed port support. One thought I had was that this could potentially be used to better support live migration. Maybe we could explore that. | 16:39 |
| scheuran | rkukura, sure, if you have a pointer that would be great! | 16:40 |
| rkukura | scheuran: I think we need some way to do the port binding for the new host_id in order to have the resulting binding:vif_type and binding:vif_details for nova to use. | 16:40 |
| scheuran | right | 16:40 |
| scheuran | so either do the port binding first | 16:40 |
| scheuran | or what I had in mind, simulate the portbinding | 16:41 |
| scheuran | so doing it, but not persisting it | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | scheuran: Since port binding can involve resource allocation, I’m not sure there would be any guarantee a simulation would have the same outcome as the real binding attempt | 16:41 |
| rkukura | but it is worth considering | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | I’ll try to dig up the DVR cleanup patch, or maybe even try to rebase it and repost it | 16:42 |
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| scheuran | ok, so let me talk to arosen to figure out what he did in the past | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | The idea with this would be that both bindings could exist at the same time for the same port | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | lets revisit this next week | 16:43 |
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| scheuran | rkukura, sounds good! | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | anything else on this? | 16:43 |
| scheuran | no | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | ok… | 16:43 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | Anything to discuss? | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | If not, lets wrap up for today… | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | Oh one thisn | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | thing | 16:45 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: OK | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | Neutron PTL election is upon us | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | If anybody has urge to become PTL, please keep in mind the deadline is tomorrow | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I have not seen any candidate (ot non-candidacy) announcements yet | 16:46 |
| scheuran | rkukura, me neither... | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | I think the deadline is tomorrow | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | to file for candidacy - | 16:46 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: thanks | 16:48 |
| rkukura | Anything else before we wrap up? | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | none from me | 16:48 |
| rkukura | ok... | 16:48 |
| rkukura | thanks everyone! | 16:48 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 16:48:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-03-16-16.04.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-03-16-16.04.txt | 16:48 |
| scheuran | thank you! bye | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-03-16-16.04.log.html | 16:48 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 17:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| mugsie | #topic Rall Call | 17:00 |
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| mugsie | ping Kiall timsim ekarlso- federico3 pglass | 17:00 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:00 |
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| timsim | elarson is playing at SXSW, pglass is on vacation | 17:00 |
| timsim | rsyed_away | 17:01 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:01 |
| federico3 | o/o/ | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | #topic Announcements (if any) | 17:01 |
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| timsim | Our stupid daylight savings time has happened so now this is at noon -_- | 17:01 |
| mugsie | timsim: hate that :D | 17:01 |
| rsyed | o/ | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | So, we will be RC'ing this week | 17:01 |
| Kiall | timsim: it's 5pm rather than 6pm for us now - yay :P | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | when the 2 patches that my and kiall are finishing up right now merge | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | (assuming no serious issues found ;)) | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | unless there is any strong objections? | 17:02 |
| timsim | The DB stuff looks pretty ready, yeah? | 17:02 |
| mugsie | yeah - what Kiall said | 17:02 |
| mugsie | its very very close | 17:02 |
| Kiall | timsim: the add tables patch? or the whole "to db" thing? | 17:02 |
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| timsim | The former | 17:02 |
| mugsie | that should be good to go | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Yea, that should be OK - but not worth merging until the next one is +A'd | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | I'm adding 1 more on top, which will get folded into mugsie's before merge for proper DevStack support | 17:03 |
| mugsie | gah, hit enter too soon | 17:03 |
| mugsie | any other anouncements? | 17:03 |
| mugsie | OK - items from last week | 17:03 |
| mugsie | mugsie bp 24c957b | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | I am holding off on this - I am not sure it should be backported | 17:04 |
| mugsie | mugsie backport bb10715 Merge "Fix for TCP connections not sending full content" | 17:04 |
| mugsie | done | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | -_- | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:04 | |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1555624 | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555624 in Designate "Getting ImportError: No module named functionaltests.common" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Bhavna Saini (imbhavnasaini) | 17:04 |
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| timsim | I think they're just doing it wrong? | 17:05 |
| timsim | I think the official path (in the docs) is export tempest_config and tox -e functinonal? | 17:05 |
| mugsie | I saw something about a missing enable_admin_api option somewhere | 17:05 |
| mugsie | that didnt exist in Kilo afaik | 17:05 |
| mugsie | i can reply with a comment | 17:06 |
| timsim | Alrighty. | 17:06 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1557364 | 17:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557364 in Designate "'openstack tld list' command not working and provides meaningless exception" [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
| Kiall | LP failing to open -_- | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | move to designateclient | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | and High | 17:07 |
| timsim | +1 | 17:07 |
| mugsie | that is a mess up on my part | 17:07 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1557576 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557576 in Designate "Admin API Quotas not working in designate (kilo & liberty)" [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | That's a doc bug in the end | 17:08 |
| venkat_ | Hi Team.. this issue (1557576) is with documentation | 17:08 |
| mugsie | yeah, rc1 + high | 17:08 |
| mugsie | it should be an easy fix | 17:08 |
| Kiall | Simple fix, lets just get it into the M docs before we branch :) | 17:08 |
| venkat_ | we raised it to fix the documentation part in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/rest/admin/quotas.html | 17:08 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:08 |
| timsim | That's it :) | 17:09 |
| Kiall | venkat_: thanks :) Your report is pretty clear about where we messed up :D We can update the docs with your suggestion :) | 17:09 |
| venkat_ | Thanks kiall | 17:09 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/490759/ | 17:10 |
| Kiall | As usual, take a few mins and nombinate changes for backporting to previous releases. | 17:10 |
| mugsie | 8fabf5f Add scheduler for pools :P | 17:10 |
| mugsie | (JOKE) | 17:10 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:10 |
| Kiall | e3ce8e0 Strip "\n" character from result | 17:10 |
| * timsim almost made the same joke | 17:11 | |
| Kiall | 2ce080d Do not allow GET /resource.json | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: nope | 17:11 |
| Kiall | ^ one might be.. yea | 17:11 |
| mugsie | to 2ce080d | 17:11 |
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| timsim | Por que no mugsie? API change? | 17:11 |
| mugsie | don't want to anger the stable-main gods :P | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:11 |
| * timsim probably should have added a release note for that one. | 17:12 | |
| Kiall | So, we have: | 17:12 |
| Kiall | a55e0b7 Merge "Add warning to devstack/README.rst" | 17:12 |
| Kiall | e3ce8e0 Strip "\n" character from result | 17:12 |
| Kiall | Other than that, I don't see anything suitable+worthwhile to backport | 17:12 |
| mugsie | timsim can do it now :) | 17:12 |
| timsim | I shall | 17:12 |
| mugsie | nope - those 2 look good | 17:12 |
| mugsie | anyone wnat to do them? | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | federico3: want to voulenteer? ;) | 17:13 |
| mugsie | dont all jump at once | 17:13 |
| federico3 | ok :) | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | :) | 17:13 |
| Kiall | volunteer* | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | #action federico3 back port a55e0b7 Merge "Add warning to devstack/README.rst" & e3ce8e0 Strip "\n" character from result | 17:13 |
| timsim | *voluntold* | 17:13 |
| mugsie | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:13 |
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| mlavalle | mugsie: hi | 17:13 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: congrats :) | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | I think we are just about done with this now :) | 17:14 |
| mlavalle | Last week we merged the documentation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280957/ | 17:14 |
| mlavalle | Yes, That was the last little bit | 17:14 |
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| mlavalle | We are done! | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #success mlavalle completed the Nova/Neutron/Designate DNS Integration along with docs + clients | 17:14 |
| Kiall | \o/ | 17:14 |
| openstackstatus | mugsie: Added success to Success page | 17:14 |
| timsim | That's amazing! | 17:14 |
| Kiall | success page? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Successes | 17:15 |
| mlavalle | THanks for all the help! | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | no problem - thanks for all the work :) | 17:15 |
| Kiall | Anyway, mlavalle excellent :) Getting everything landed in Neutron/Nova/Clients/Docs etc was no small feat :) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #topic Summit Workshop | 17:16 |
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| mlavalle | I'll continue attending this meeting to coordinate for the summit | 17:16 |
| mugsie | I will be sending out an email to arrange a time to dicuss the workshop - can people ping me their emails? | 17:16 |
| mugsie | I think we should use the same base a previouslyt | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #link https://github.com/designate-dns/designate-workshop-packer | 17:17 |
| mugsie | just not building it in the hotel the night before | 17:17 |
| mugsie | and then copying it to 150 drives | 17:17 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:18 |
| mugsie | does next week suit for the first sync? | 17:18 |
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| Kiall | Drives. Who's offering them up this year? | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | it suits me | 17:18 |
| Kiall | yea, next week suits for me. | 17:18 |
| timsim | I think, based on the epicness of them last year, it has to be you guys :P | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | I will talk to barclac to see if we can get the printed ones again | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | but, wont hold my breath | 17:19 |
| mugsie | anything else on this? | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Nope, Other than, flights booked ;) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Bug Triage | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | having one of those days mugsie? | 17:20 |
| mugsie | I want to suggest that this meeting next week be entirely dedicated to looking at the open bugs | 17:20 |
| mugsie | (all of them) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion is what you wanted ;) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | Oh | 17:20 |
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| * mugsie slaps Kiall with a large trout | 17:20 | |
| timsim | LOL | 17:20 |
| mugsie | what do people think | 17:20 |
| timsim | Wow, didn't mean to go all caps. | 17:20 |
| mugsie | we have a large back log | 17:21 |
| Kiall | mugsie: makes sense to do.. | 17:21 |
| timsim | That sounds good mugsie | 17:21 |
| mugsie | and I would guess that 40% are never getting done | 17:21 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:21 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie sort out bug triage for next week | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | #topic Summit Sessions https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-designate | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-designate | 17:21 |
| mugsie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-designate | 17:21 |
| mugsie | can everyone think about what they want to talk about in Tokyo? | 17:22 |
| mugsie | s/Tokyo/Austn/ | 17:22 |
| Kiall | (I wasn't wrong about "one of those days" ;)) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | and add it to the etherpad | 17:22 |
| timsim | workermodelworkermodelworkermodel :troll: | 17:22 |
| Kiall | will do, anyone have this etherpad from last year? | 17:22 |
| Kiall | (i.e. stuff we bumped)_ | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | timsim: I agree with you. but it will be the difficult questions like "upgrade" | 17:23 |
| mugsie | so, I will have a look and colate them next monday or tuesday | 17:23 |
| timsim | I've got https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-designate-summit-roadmap ... | 17:23 |
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| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:23 |
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| mugsie | one item from me - PTL Nominations are open. | 17:24 |
| Kiall | etherpad needs a pad search ... | 17:24 |
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| mugsie | if you feel you would be a good PTL, please nominate yourself | 17:24 |
| mugsie | as long as you have commited in the last year, you are elegible | 17:25 |
| rsyed | setting a high bar there... | 17:25 |
| * rsyed kids! | 17:25 | |
| timsim | rsyed for PTL | 17:25 |
| mugsie | rsyed: thems the rules :P | 17:25 |
| Kiall | rsyed: the rules are the same for all OpenStack projects ;) | 17:25 |
| mugsie | anyone else have any of agenda items | 17:25 |
| mugsie | ? | 17:25 |
| mugsie | and - if you have any questions about the PTL job, just ping me or drop me an email | 17:26 |
| Kiall | None from me | 17:26 |
| timsim | Nah. Thanks Kiall and mugsie for tackling those big patches that we need. | 17:26 |
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| mugsie | np | 17:26 |
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| Kiall | even if it took a while ;) | 17:26 |
| rsyed | +1 | 17:26 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:26 |
| timsim | What's a year, really | 17:26 |
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| mugsie | timsim: 18months even :P | 17:27 |
| Kiall | only a year? it was longer ;) | 17:27 |
| mugsie | San Jose was the start | 17:27 |
| mugsie | so - does everyone want 30 mins back? | 17:27 |
| timsim | Always | 17:27 |
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| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 17:28:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-16-17.00.html | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-16-17.00.txt | 17:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-03-16-17.00.log.html | 17:28 |
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| pmackinn | o/ | 18:00 |
| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 18:00:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 18:01 |
| cp16net | howdy everyone | 18:01 |
| pmackinn | cp16net, welcome back | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | howdy cp16net — welcome back! | 18:01 |
| cp16net | thanks :) | 18:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:01 |
| tosky | hi | 18:01 |
| dalees` | o/ | 18:01 |
| johnma | o/ | 18:01 |
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| cp16net | #topic action items from last week | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | #info [amrith] figure out who has to send FFE acceptances | 18:02 |
| amrith | Yup, I did ... | 18:03 |
| cp16net | #done | 18:03 |
| amrith | but it appears that FFE's don't extend to client. we'll talk abotu taht later. | 18:03 |
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| cp16net | yeah ok | 18:03 |
| cp16net | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:04 |
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| cp16net | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:04 |
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| amrith | queue growth is negative, not since 9/9/2015 ;) | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | thats amazing | 18:05 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | i'm sure it wont last... | 18:05 |
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| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | but over all we've merged many of the patches needed for mitaka | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | which it looks like attributed to this | 18:06 |
| cp16net | anyone have other comments? | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | ok moving on | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #topic Announcements | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | #info mitaka release schedule | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 18:08 |
| cp16net | this week is RC-1 cut | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | that means that newton will be opening up soon | 18:10 |
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| cp16net | PTL self nominations are happening now and i sent an email out saying that i've decided to not run again for the newton cycle. | 18:11 |
| pmackinn | do newton specs have to wait or can they be pushed up in advance? | 18:11 |
| cp16net | they can be pushed up with the trove-spec repo | 18:12 |
| cp16net | just add the newton folder | 18:12 |
| johnma | we need to create a directory for newton specs | 18:12 |
| cp16net | yup | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net / pmackinn: we should be able to allow folks to target specs to future releases even if they're not open for coding yet. | 18:13 |
| cp16net | amrith: has announced his candiacy which i think will be great | 18:13 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: i agree | 18:13 |
| amrith | thx cp16net | 18:13 |
| johnma | thanks alot cp16net for all the hard work and helping us with a smooth release. Quite alot of work was done in the release | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | cp16net / amrith: I saw the PTL candidacy emails! | 18:14 |
| cp16net | since the trove-spec repo is not a release repo you can push specs to any of the future releases | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: Thanks for all the awesome work in the Mitaka cycle. | 18:14 |
| cp16net | this will not affect anything | 18:14 |
| pmackinn | +1 cp16net thx | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Looking forward to the direction the Newton PTL takes us! | 18:15 |
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| cp16net | On that note i'd like to thank everyone for their contributions and hard work over the mitaka cycle | 18:15 |
| amrith | I thought there was already a newton spec, but I was mistaken. | 18:15 |
| amrith | cp16net, thanks for all that you've done for trove | 18:15 |
| amrith | thanks SlickNik | 18:15 |
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| cp16net | and also i'd like to thank everyone for helping me out while i was away taking care of my new born. | 18:15 |
| johnma | +1 to having Amrith as our next PTL. SlickNik said it well | 18:15 |
| amrith | thx johnma ... | 18:16 |
| cp16net | speaking of amrith .... | 18:16 |
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| cp16net | #info [amrith] Cross project Quotas library/project | 18:16 |
| amrith | oh, thx | 18:16 |
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| amrith | I put these two as informational items | 18:16 |
| amrith | this one and the next one. | 18:16 |
| amrith | wanted to bring it to everyone's attention. | 18:17 |
| amrith | I posted a response on the quote thing on the ML | 18:17 |
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| amrith | it appears like we may have a library to use for quotas in the future. | 18:17 |
| amrith | I was hoping that there would be a quotas capability taht would give us more in the short term. | 18:17 |
| amrith | but maybe we'll have to wait for that. | 18:17 |
| amrith | in particular, I was interested in this because quotas (of other projects) become interesting to us when we muck with remote.py. | 18:18 |
| amrith | it is informational. | 18:18 |
| amrith | same with the next one | 18:18 |
| amrith | #info "Take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292451/" | 18:18 |
| amrith | it is something that flaper87 proposed. | 18:18 |
| amrith | it took a while to figure out what the dashboard is all about. | 18:18 |
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| amrith | once I got it to work (and I left some comments for others who want to tryi it), I felt that the dashboard didn't address the things I'd thought we talked about at previous meetings. | 18:19 |
| cp16net | oh yeah we created that a long time ago | 18:19 |
| amrith | but wanted to bring the review to everyones attention. | 18:19 |
| cp16net | and it generated the link i've used for a while | 18:19 |
| amrith | In particular, one of the shortcomings of gerrit is that there is no way to tag a review. | 18:19 |
| amrith | i.e. tag a bunch of reviews for Mitaka-RC1 or some such thing. | 18:19 |
| amrith | and so we resorted to the tagged by someone. | 18:20 |
| amrith | when the dashboard was made, it was 'tagged by SlickNik' | 18:20 |
| cp16net | yeah | 18:20 |
| amrith | for Mitaka I starred the reviews and shared a link. | 18:20 |
| amrith | so I'm less than enamored of this commit. | 18:20 |
| cp16net | it would be nice to be able to corrolate the release to reviews | 18:20 |
| amrith | but figured I'd share and let others see what it was. and maybe we'll get more ideas on what the dashboard should contain. | 18:20 |
| cp16net | but i think it would arequire query to launchpad as well | 18:21 |
| amrith | yes, I've been meaning to ask sdague a bunch of questions about it. | 18:21 |
| cp16net | all that dash does it creates a link | 18:21 |
| amrith | one was about tagging reviews. the other was about picking a sort order in the dashboard, the third was to make the dashboard we create a part of the project | 18:21 |
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| cp16net | its easier to update that file than mucking with a 1000+ characters on the url | 18:21 |
| amrith | if you go to https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/trove | 18:21 |
| amrith | there is a dashboards list | 18:21 |
| amrith | and I want to add dashboards there. | 18:22 |
| amrith | I wonder how to do that | 18:22 |
| amrith | So ... | 18:22 |
| cp16net | that was old | 18:22 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] do the things he says above ... | 18:22 |
| cp16net | they decided not to keep up with those | 18:22 |
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| amrith | oh well, that's sad. | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | amrith: If I recall correctly, to be able to do that you'd have to modify the list of gerrit default dashboards. | 18:22 |
| cp16net | at least the last time i asked about it | 18:22 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, that may be it. have to figure out what a good way would be to do something like that. | 18:23 |
| cp16net | yeah it requires an update to gerrit backend and i think they frowned upon because it might require a bit of work each time | 18:23 |
| amrith | especially tracking reviews for a milestone. | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Talking to the CI folks, there wasn't an easy way to do that per team (i.e. making a change would result in that dashboard being available to everyone). | 18:23 |
| amrith | I think that'd make sense for a number of projects. | 18:23 |
| cp16net | it was on the infra team i believe | 18:23 |
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| amrith | anyway, not to rathole on that; I'll go find otu and report back to the team. | 18:23 |
| amrith | that's all I had cp16net | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | But they have done a couple of gerrit upgrades since then, so I wonder if this has changed at all. | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | k side note on that you can now update your list of links in gerrit | 18:24 |
| cp16net | https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/preferences | 18:24 |
| cp16net | in the my menu | 18:24 |
| cp16net | create a link and add it there | 18:24 |
| amrith | cp16net, yes. but is there a way to make it project wide? | 18:25 |
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| cp16net | no | 18:25 |
| cp16net | other than adding it to a wiki or something for reference | 18:25 |
| cp16net | ok moving on | 18:25 |
| cp16net | #topic Health check on outstanding blueprints and features for Mitaka | 18:25 |
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| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:amrith+status:open | 18:25 |
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| amrith | are we all good with the two mongodb changes listed there? | 18:26 |
| amrith | I'd like those merged into RC1 if at all possible. | 18:26 |
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| cp16net | i think they are good | 18:27 |
| cp16net | i didnt run through another test on then | 18:27 |
| amrith | and if we can get imandhan's couchdb change merged, I think we're in a position to finalize the release notes and get rc1 going. | 18:27 |
| cp16net | them* | 18:27 |
| cp16net | i've been testing the couchdb patches | 18:27 |
| imandhan | thanks cp16net | 18:28 |
| amrith | I've tried a couple of times to connect with vkmc and sonali but have not been able to. | 18:28 |
| pmackinn | vkmc is pto this week | 18:28 |
| amrith | so I fear that the two couchdb configuration group things will slip | 18:28 |
| amrith | well, that'd explain it! | 18:28 |
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| amrith | And I can't reach sonali. | 18:28 |
| amrith | so I think we are good to call RC1 as soon as we get imandhan's changes in. | 18:29 |
| cp16net | yeah i think we can move them to the next cycle | 18:29 |
| amrith | is that correct? | 18:29 |
| amrith | johnma, peterstac ... did we get everything else? are we missing something that should be starred? | 18:29 |
| cp16net | any final requirements | 18:29 |
| cp16net | updates or translations | 18:29 |
| peterstac | looks like the Redis one got dropped somehow | 18:30 |
| peterstac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272844/ | 18:30 |
| peterstac | For production systems, the backup shouldn't lock out the connections ... | 18:30 |
| amrith | starred now | 18:30 |
| amrith | we need another reviewer | 18:31 |
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| SlickNik | I'll review the redis patch | 18:31 |
| cp16net | i had a concern about it but i think peter won me over. | 18:31 |
| peterstac | cp16net, yeah, it fails over to the 'blocked' save if the bg one fails for any reason | 18:32 |
| peterstac | (for example, due to memory issues) | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | yea | 18:33 |
| tosky | it's not on the list of reviews, but is the plan of enabling the new scenario tests still on track for Mitaka? | 18:33 |
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| peterstac | well, we're moving ahead with it, but my guess is it won't be ready until Newton | 18:34 |
| peterstac | but should be early in the cycle | 18:34 |
| tosky | peterstac: not even a gate for the non-experimental datastore? | 18:34 |
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| cp16net | #agree scenario tests should be turned on in newton. | 18:34 |
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| peterstac | we could probably set up the mysql one as non-voting soon (since I think they're fairly stable) | 18:35 |
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| peterstac | we might want to run the Redis ones a bit more in case they need tweaking | 18:35 |
| cp16net | we setup the other experimental jobs to run the scenario tests | 18:35 |
| peterstac | (no sense wasting gate resources if we don't need to) | 18:35 |
| cp16net | but they dont run normally | 18:35 |
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| tosky | right, but it's the chicken and egg problem: tests are not stable because are not always executed, so they are not used for gates, so not executed | 18:36 |
| peterstac | yes, and with all the mitaka push I haven't be running them manually much lately | 18:36 |
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| peterstac | but I should have a little more time now :) | 18:36 |
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| cp16net | there hasnt been anyone working to make sure they are stable in the gate tho | 18:36 |
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| cp16net | there is a job you can run but last i checked it failed | 18:36 |
| tosky | I didn't know about the extra job | 18:36 |
| peterstac | if you run 'check experimental' in trove, it'll kick off the scenario tests for mysql and redis | 18:37 |
| cp16net | yeah ^^ thats what i was going to say but peterstac beat me to it | 18:37 |
| tosky | maybe we can talk about it post-meeting, if the failure was not complex (or it was just for redis), it could be fixed easily | 18:38 |
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| amrith | I suggest we take this up after the meeting please. | 18:38 |
| cp16net | so for the features in mitaka that amrith starred we have the ones we need | 18:38 |
| amrith | there are other things on the agenda. | 18:38 |
| peterstac | cp16net, if you like I can try and get those ready for a 'non-voting' switch by next week (maybe ...) | 18:38 |
| cp16net | if we dont hear from sonali or vkmc soon on status then we will have to push that feature to newron | 18:39 |
| amrith | cp16net, I suggest we decide that now. | 18:39 |
| amrith | so we can move on | 18:39 |
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| amrith | and cut rc1 as soon as the two mongo things, the couchdb change (imandhan) and the redis change are merged. | 18:40 |
| cp16net | i'm in favor of pushing it wihtout any work on them in over a week | 18:40 |
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| amrith | does anyone feel differently? | 18:41 |
| cp16net | amrith: i know you've been talking with the release team | 18:41 |
| amrith | cp16net, yes. | 18:41 |
| cp16net | is there pressure for release be cut asap? | 18:41 |
| cp16net | i've caught parts of the convs but not heard much on when yet | 18:42 |
| amrith | I would like to mark rc1 so we can focus on bug fixing. yes, RC1 deadline is this week. they'll do it anyway ... | 18:42 |
| amrith | I would rather do it when we're ready and then focus on fixing and testing. | 18:42 |
| cp16net | right i agree | 18:42 |
| amrith | that'll also mean that we can tag stable/mitaka and other things (for newton) can start to land. | 18:42 |
| cp16net | yup | 18:43 |
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| amrith | which is the next thing I have on the agenda ... | 18:43 |
| cp16net | lets push the couchdb config groups now. | 18:43 |
| amrith | I've let peterstac know already. the client side changes for module management won't be a mitaka thing. | 18:43 |
| cp16net | and you can un star it | 18:43 |
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| amrith | #agreed couchdb configuration groups moves to Newton | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | Also — no one likes to release on Fridays, so realistically we have until tomorrow to merge what we want for RC1 | 18:44 |
| cp16net | true | 18:44 |
| amrith | I have a personal reason for wanting to cut it today. | 18:44 |
| amrith | tomorrow and day after, cp16net and I are pub hopping. | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | Ah, you're going to be in Austin! | 18:44 |
| cp16net | heh :-P | 18:44 |
| amrith | Yup | 18:44 |
| amrith | johnma, watch out ... | 18:44 |
| cp16net | ok i think that finalizes the patches we need fixed up asap | 18:45 |
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| amrith | yes, there are now 4 | 18:45 |
| johnma | sorry had to step out for a bit, came back just on time :) | 18:45 |
| amrith | three are verified. and need a +1 | 18:45 |
| SlickNik | Makes sense — at this point, I'd highly recommend pushing out stuff that won't be ready to Newton. | 18:45 |
| amrith | one is waiting for gate | 18:45 |
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| cp16net | ok so next thing on the agenda? | 18:45 |
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| amrith | So, for newton, we should remember that FFE's don't extend to the client. | 18:45 |
| amrith | if we need changes on the client, the freeze date for the client is a HARD date. | 18:46 |
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| cp16net | #topic Summit planning | 18:46 |
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| amrith | and even if you get an FFE for a feature, that's your server side | 18:46 |
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| amrith | ok, on to summit planning ... | 18:46 |
| peterstac | Is this new? I don't remember hard freeze dates for the clients before ... | 18:46 |
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| peterstac | (In fact I thought we got to release the client whenever we saw fit ...) | 18:46 |
| cp16net | peterstac: i think its enforced more now than it was before | 18:47 |
| amrith | peterstac, I don't know. And I don't know that it really matters at this point. | 18:47 |
| amrith | and in the interest of time, I'd suggest we look ahead. | 18:47 |
| amrith | to summit planning. | 18:47 |
| peterstac | sure, noted | 18:47 |
| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-newton-proposed-sessions | 18:47 |
| amrith | we have 3 fishbowls, 6 working sessions and a half day contributor meetup. | 18:47 |
| cp16net | amrith: outlined the propsed sessions here that we had talked about at the meetup last time | 18:47 |
| amrith | I've requested that our contributor meetup be Friday morning. | 18:47 |
| amrith | because I know that several people have afternoon travel plans. | 18:48 |
| cp16net | if there are other suggestions please add to this as you see fit | 18:48 |
| SlickNik | amrith: ++ | 18:48 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] contact Victor Stinner re: python3 | 18:48 |
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| amrith | #action [pmackinn] I've tagged you on some topics based on mid-cycle, please confirm | 18:49 |
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| amrith | #action [amrith] get leaders for all sessions that we want to actually conduct ;) | 18:49 |
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| pmackinn | amrith, noted | 18:50 |
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| amrith | cp16net, ... I'd like a quick rollcall vote on who'll be at summit. | 18:50 |
| cp16net | ./ | 18:50 |
| dalees` | o/ | 18:50 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:50 |
| johnma | ./ | 18:50 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:50 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:51 |
| pmackinn | ./ | 18:51 |
| pmackinn | vmkc, ./ (pretty sure) | 18:51 |
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| dloi | ./ | 18:51 |
| cp16net | looking forward to seeing everyone there | 18:52 |
| cp16net | #topic open discussion | 18:52 |
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| amrith | thx cp16net | 18:53 |
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| cp16net | anyone have anything else? | 18:53 |
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| cp16net | if not i'll end it | 18:54 |
| amrith | since we have the time, tosky had some questions earlier. | 18:54 |
| amrith | or we can go to #openstack-trove | 18:54 |
| amrith | and continue there? | 18:54 |
| cp16net | either way we have about 5 min | 18:54 |
| tosky | I think peterstac and cp16net mentioned they will recheck the status of the current job | 18:54 |
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| tosky | which would be enough for now :) | 18:55 |
| peterstac | tosky, I'll work on that this week | 18:55 |
| tosky | peterstac: thanks | 18:55 |
| cp16net | sounds good | 18:55 |
| peterstac | np | 18:55 |
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| amrith | one question for pmackinn | 18:55 |
| pmackinn | oh boy | 18:56 |
| amrith | pmackinn, any idea whether tellesnobrega will be at summit? | 18:56 |
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| amrith | I didn't put the ceph thing on the agenda | 18:56 |
| amrith | but we should, if he's looking to do it for newton | 18:56 |
| pmackinn | amrith, will enquire and try to get you an answer tomorrow | 18:56 |
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| amrith | there are other projects for which I've file BP's and I'll list some of these in the contributor meetup section or maybe have a session for "projects in Newton" | 18:56 |
| amrith | thx pmackinn | 18:56 |
| cp16net | alright thanks everyone | 18:57 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] add projects in newton to agenda | 18:57 |
| cp16net | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 18:57:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-16-18.00.html | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-16-18.00.txt | 18:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-03-16-18.00.log.html | 18:57 |
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| madhu_ak | hello | 20:00 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
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| TrevorV|Home | o/ | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 20:01:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy! | 20:01 |
| markvan | o/ | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| johnsom | Octavia 0.8.0 released! | 20:01 |
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| sbalukoff | Woot! | 20:01 |
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| xgerman | Yeah! | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/001014.html | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | So, that is excellent! | 20:02 |
| ajmiller | Very cool! | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Yep, yep! | 20:02 |
| bharathm | o/ | 20:03 |
| johnsom | The LBaaSv2 dashboard will be released after this meeting. We had to wait for a governance patch to merge, so that got delayed. | 20:03 |
| xgerman | awesome | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | And the governance patch just merged this morning. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Anyway, thank you to the whole team for your effort in getting 0.8 out the door for Mitaka | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Yep | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | This puts the UI on the same release schedule as Octavia, right? | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Well, um, yes. That topic is coming up next.... | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! Ok. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Any questions about the release? | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | #topic Governance issues | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | So, my comment yesterday "We aren't part of Mitaka?????" based on the e-mail I got back from the release team: | 20:05 |
| johnsom | "Because octavia uses the release:independent project, we don't want you to say it is "part of the mitaka release series"" | 20:05 |
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| sbalukoff | So, as usual, we are the red-headed stepchild. | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | Apparently back in January we got moved out of the release because we didn't do an M-1: | 20:06 |
| TrevorV|Home | As is tradition | 20:06 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272696/ | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | *sigh* | 20:07 |
| xgerman | sneaky | 20:07 |
| johnsom | I think it's a bit evil that no Octavia PTLs were included in that review. | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Awesome that they communicate these decisions in such an apropos and timely manner. | 20:07 |
| johnsom | So, we have a decision to make. | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/index.html#release-management-tags | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | The release tags are of interest. After learning of this I read through them and I think we were working under the "release:cycle-with-intermediary" ideals | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Meaning we would be releasing on the OpenStack six month cycle. | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | So, the decision we need to make is do we stay release:independent and "not be part of the release" or do we switch to release:cycle-with-intermediary? | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | We could go back to milestones too. We decided to not cut M1 as it wouldn't have been that exciting. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Thoughts? | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Will (how) this affect anyone from using the software? Anyone who has been contributing, mostly? | 20:10 |
| xgerman | probably not but we are cutting releases every 6 months so... | 20:11 |
| johnsom | Well, it's about alignment IMO. We need to line up with neutron-lbaas and the client to some degree. | 20:11 |
| johnsom | I also worry about the impact with the packagers. | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | Until / unless we become completely independent. Yes. | 20:12 |
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| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:12 |
| xgerman | yes, as a packager it would be convenient to have them released at the same time | 20:12 |
| TrevorV|Home | Actually, I think we should have another conversation in this one's place, that will also answer this question | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | If we change, I suspect it would make things awkward for Octavia to be the reference implementation at that point? | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Ok | 20:12 |
| TrevorV|Home | At the last midcycle, we discussed "what we need" to get octavia to replace neutron LBaaS, I think we should revisit this in our list of priorities | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: For the Newton cycle, certainly. | 20:13 |
| neelashah | yes, sbalukoff - I had the same question - if octavia is the reference impl, it makes sense for it to be part of the release | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Well, it's awkward now as Octavia is independent, neutron-lbaas is not | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Is there an immediate decision that needs to be made? | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Right. | 20:14 |
| TrevorV|Home | I'm not trying to say we should make a decision per-say, but we should definitely have that as a shorter term goal than just "when we get to it" | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | So... | 20:14 |
| TrevorV|Home | If we intend to do it, I mean | 20:14 |
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| johnsom | If we want to switch to release:cycle-with-intermediary we probably need to do that close to the start of the cycle | 20:14 |
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| xgerman | and the repos just opened | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | what I'm hearing here is that we have been trying to be part of the release, we are surprised that once again we were cut out of the decision on this in ways one could construe as being mean to fly under the radar, and that we really should be releasing on the same schedule as neutron-lbaas. At least for now. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I didn't ask for specific timelines on that. | 20:15 |
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| sbalukoff | So, I think we want to be on the same cycle as the release. Others thoughts? | 20:15 |
| neelashah | +1 | 20:16 |
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| TrevorV|Home | Yeah, are we not intending to replace neutron lbaas anymore? | 20:16 |
| johnsom | I think we still need to make this decision even if we plan to pull neutron-lbaas out of neutron in Newton. We still need to decide if we want to be on the six month OpenStack cycle | 20:16 |
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| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Regardless of whether we do that, we probably still need to be on the standard OpenStack release cycle. | 20:16 |
| johnsom | I feel the same. I think it is in our best interests to be on release:cycle-with-intermediary | 20:17 |
| TrevorV|Home | sbalukoff, I was taking it the other route, if we intend to replace it, we definitely need to be on the openstack release cycle, otherwise it doesn't really matter | 20:17 |
| xgerman | johnsom +! | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | The 6-month cycle can be a serious pain (as we all know), but it does mean we at least have hard deadlines, and this can help to get stuff done faster. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff +100 | 20:17 |
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| TrevorV|Home | Alright, so I'm not hearing any "don't do that" for the 6-month cycle | 20:18 |
| TrevorV|Home | I'm okay with it as well | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | For example, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to beg, please, and threaten my way into getting y'all to review L7 if it weren't for the deadline. ;) | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | Should we vote? (though it's lost that Doug isn't here) | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | plead | 20:18 |
| TrevorV|Home | Right, ha ha, same for single-create in octavia | 20:18 |
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| sbalukoff | I don't hear any dissenting voices, so I'm not sure a vote is necessary. | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Let's just note the decision and move on, eh? | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #startvote Should we move to release:cycle-with-intermediary? Yes, No, eh | 20:19 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we move to release:cycle-with-intermediary? Valid vote options are Yes, No, eh. | 20:19 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
| TrevorV|Home | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
| bharathm | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
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| madhu_ak | Yes | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
| ajmiller | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
| minwang2 | ＃vote YES | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Make it all official and such | 20:19 |
| neelashah | #vote yes | 20:19 |
| madhu_ak | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:19 |
| xgerman | #vote Yes | 20:19 |
| bharathm | Unanimous it is | 20:19 |
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| johnsom | Going once... No blogan rm_work today? | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | yeah, that's odd. Maybe the change in meeting time threw them off? | 20:20 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom, they're "joining" now methinks... at least rm_work is | 20:20 |
| johnsom | ptoohill? | 20:20 |
| TrevorV|Home | We're REALLY busy with internal stuff | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Or rather, the change in daylight savings. | 20:20 |
| TrevorV|Home | ptoohill, is off this week | 20:20 |
| TrevorV|Home | Spring break and all | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Cool. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Ok, well, not waiting. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | #endvote | 20:21 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we move to release:cycle-with-intermediary?" Results are | 20:21 |
| openstack | Yes (8): xgerman, johnsom, neelashah, bharathm, madhu_ak, TrevorV|Home, ajmiller, sbalukoff | 20:21 |
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| johnsom | Next topic along those lines.... | 20:21 |
| johnsom | stable:follows-policy tag | 20:21 |
| johnsom | The current "has stable branch" tag, which Octavia has, is going away. | 20:22 |
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| johnsom | You have to "apply" to get the new one. | 20:22 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bandit/+bug/1557697 | 20:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557697 in Bandit "bandit-baseline doesn't work on a detached head state" [Undecided,New] | 20:22 |
| johnsom | This went out in a small e-mail on the 7th. | 20:22 |
| johnsom | Opps, wrong link | 20:22 |
| xgerman | wrong link? | 20:22 |
| johnsom | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088592.html | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | Do we want to apply for this? | 20:23 |
| xgerman | why not? | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | I think it sounds like a good idea. | 20:23 |
| xgerman | is there a downside? | 20:24 |
| johnsom | From what I can see, we follow the policy they define. It's just work to get blessed... | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | What are the implications of this tag? | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Aah. | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/stable_follows-policy.html | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Another hoop to jump through. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Personally, I think this is another way to be friendly to packagers, so I support it. | 20:25 |
| TrevorV|Home | Doesn't sound like a super difficult one though sbalukoff | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, I think the "upside" is that we're considered "more legitimate" as a project if we have that. | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | So yes, let's do it. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | I am a bit annoyed at the process here, but will do the foot work if we decide we want it. | 20:25 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | #vote Should we apply for the stable:follows-policy tag? Yes, No, eh | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks for taking on the yak-shaving on that, johnsom. | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| johnsom | #startvote Should we apply for the stable:follows-policy tag? Yes, No, eh | 20:26 |
| xgerman | startvote johnsom | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Er... | 20:26 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we apply for the stable:follows-policy tag? Valid vote options are Yes, No, eh. | 20:26 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 20:26 |
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| xgerman | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| ajmiller | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| TrevorV|Home | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| bharathm | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| minwang2 | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| johnsom | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| madhu_ak | #vote Yes | 20:26 |
| neelashah | #vote yes | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Okey-dokey | 20:27 |
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| johnsom | #endvote | 20:28 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we apply for the stable:follows-policy tag?" Results are | 20:28 |
| openstack | Yes (9): xgerman, johnsom, sbalukoff, minwang2, bharathm, madhu_ak, TrevorV|Home, ajmiller, neelashah | 20:28 |
| johnsom | So, I will start the governance fun. | 20:28 |
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| sbalukoff | Yey! | 20:28 |
| johnsom | #topic Update on Bandit gate | 20:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update on Bandit gate (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:28 | |
| xgerman | thanks for doing that | 20:28 |
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| johnsom | Our new experimental gate for Bandit (security check) is failing. I guess our code is checked out in detached head state, which bandit doesn't like. | 20:29 |
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| johnsom | They have a bug and are going to work on it: | 20:29 |
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| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bandit/+bug/1557697 | 20:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557697 in Bandit "bandit-baseline doesn't work on a detached head state" [Undecided,New] | 20:29 |
| johnsom | So, WIP... | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Just wanted to give an update | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | It'll be nice to have that once it's ready, eh. | 20:30 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / patches needing reviews | 20:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / patches needing reviews (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:30 | |
| minwang2 | The following 3 patches need code review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285596/ | 20:30 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285596/ | 20:30 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289595/ | 20:30 |
| johnsom | I plan to look at the file permission one and the config one today, after I get the dashboard released. | 20:31 |
| minwang2 | cool, thanks! | 20:31 |
| johnsom | I have opened the Newton series on launchpad so we can start planning work | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | I plan to work on an L7 scenario test, though it sounds like documentation might be more urgent, so I may do that first. | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | When would be a good time to talk about docs? | 20:31 |
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| johnsom | Oh yeah, I will try to pull the deleted docs into our repo. Resurrect if you will. | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:32 |
| madhu_ak | Anyone aware of the latest gate failure: http://paste.openstack.org/show/qnohA0SkT8DbdWUG1xH0/ | 20:32 |
| madhu_ak | ? | 20:32 |
| johnsom | You have to look in the devstack log to see the error | 20:32 |
| bharathm | It's the "add-apt-repository" cmd missing error | 20:33 |
| madhu_ak | Okay, will check. | 20:33 |
| johnsom | I noticed an odd one on minwang2's patch. Something like the apt tool was missing | 20:33 |
| madhu_ak | Its ailing in all the patches though. So curious.. | 20:33 |
| madhu_ak | failing* | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Yeah, haven't looked into that yet | 20:34 |
| bharathm | I noticed all gates were failing because of that on minwang2 and banak patches | 20:34 |
| xgerman | mmh | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Joy | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Well, if anyone has time, feel free to chase it | 20:34 |
| minwang2 | i am checking the log now, this morning it passed the gate though | 20:34 |
| madhu_ak | we have a TLS(with intermediates) scenario tests working and need reviews for #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164828/ | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | It would be good to know whether it's "our" problem or one that affects multiple projects. | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:35 |
| madhu_ak | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164828/ - Need to reuse methods though, but that will be in a separate commit | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | *nod* | 20:36 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:36 | |
| sbalukoff | Ooh-- | 20:36 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff You had a docs topic? | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | So, I had a meeting with IBM docs people yesterday. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | They're happy to help refine the language and organization we do on our docs, but of course the bulk of the content needs to be provided by us. | 20:37 |
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| sbalukoff | I have this etherpad defining docs we could use: | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-docs-needed | 20:37 |
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| johnsom | Yes, good stuff | 20:37 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Also, I understand from dougwig that neutron leadership wants / needs us to put together some devref documentation for features added in mitaka to be considered complete. | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | I would like to divide and conquer on this if we can. | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | I'm happy to work on L7 stuff, and resurrect that old patchset which is a 'getting started' guide for getting stuff installed. | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | Someone needs to move the neutron-lbaas API ref from the wiki page it's currently on into the neutron-lbaas project, docs directory. | 20:38 |
| johnsom | Ok cool. Should we put these into RFE bugs that people can grab? | 20:39 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | And, as johnsom said, we should try to recover the docs from the main manual that were deleted and get them into our repo. | 20:39 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yes! | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Want me to handle that? | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Sure! | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Just tag them with RFE | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | #action sbalukoff to open bugs listing docs needed (RFE bugs) | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, any questions about docs? | 20:40 |
| johnsom | I hope they come out in small enough chunks that it is easy to grab one and get it done quickly. | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | I hope so too. I'll open lots of bugs. :) | 20:40 |
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| johnsom | Sounds good | 20:41 |
| rm_work | sorry blogan and ptoohill both PTO today, and i am insanely distracted by everything here, just got on | 20:41 |
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| xgerman | it was a day of two votes | 20:41 |
| johnsom | rm_work You missed the governance votes. check the log. | 20:41 |
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| sbalukoff | rm_work: You've got quite the back-log. | 20:41 |
| xgerman | also neither blogan nor ptoohill should be allowed to take PTO on Mwefnesday | 20:42 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other topics? | 20:42 |
| rm_work | yeah trying to read | 20:42 |
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| sbalukoff | Where are we at on the tempest test stuff? | 20:42 |
| rm_work | uhh, fnaval is PTO today <_< | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA! | 20:42 |
| johnsom | Good question. I think we need to do some reviews there. | 20:42 |
| rm_work | ot sure | 20:42 |
| rm_work | *not sure | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | RAX is totally AWOL today. | 20:42 |
| madhu_ak | we have working octavia scenario tests | 20:42 |
| xgerman | yep, the castle is empty | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | Yay! | 20:43 |
| madhu_ak | fnaval asked for some ideas #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/ | 20:43 |
| johnsom | I will try to take a look at those tomorrow. I plan to work on a scenario test for failover | 20:43 |
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| sbalukoff | Cool. | 20:43 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:44 |
| madhu_ak | Also, note we are not maintaining tempest tests in lbaas repo | 20:44 |
| madhu_ak | tempest libraries* | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | madhu_ak: Oh! | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | I was going to say... | 20:44 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, that needs to get fixed too | 20:44 |
| madhu_ak | it is already merged I guess: #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273817/ | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Oh, nice! I missed that it got merged. | 20:45 |
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| sbalukoff | Rad! | 20:46 |
| johnsom | That reminds me. What do we want to do about the session persistence issues? | 20:46 |
| johnsom | I'm getting to the point that we should disable that test until we can resolve it's issues. | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Are we still no closer in figuring out why they fail? | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | I haven't looked closely into them in over a week, so I'm not sure. | 20:47 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff You and I have both put attempts out there, but it is still failing | 20:47 |
| madhu_ak | I had the same thought of skipping the test, ut when I do recheck again and again, it passes and the other one fails.. | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Though the session persistence patches of mine merged, so hopefully that's less to troubleshoot. | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | madhu_ak: Do you think it's a timing issue? | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | As in, the test overall just takes too long to run? | 20:47 |
| johnsom | This one is still up for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278874/ but doesn't fully solve the issue | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | And if so, would it help to split it up? | 20:48 |
| johnsom | It might | 20:48 |
| madhu_ak | many factors sbalukoff: timing, cookie is not being worked properly, http 503 error (ike johnsom linked the above link).. | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | I will clean up that patch and try to drive to get it in. Like I said, I don't think it will fix it, but might help | 20:49 |
| madhu_ak | yeah, I ran full tests this morning, able to succeed them | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Yeah, last time I worked on this, it passes fine on my local system | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | Does anyone here want to volunteer to split that test into smaller tests? | 20:50 |
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| sbalukoff | Right-- I've never been able to get it to fail locally. | 20:50 |
| johnsom | I will not have time this week, sorry | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | I won't either. | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | In fact... | 20:50 |
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| xgerman | internal stuff is keeping me busy | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | I would say, nobody should, because if you have cycles, you should be working on docs. ;) | 20:50 |
| xgerman | but if you get writers block? | 20:51 |
| johnsom | Well, we need to get our scenario gate working again. | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | And yes-- it's looking very likely that internal stuff is going to eat a lot of my time over the next month. | 20:51 |
| madhu_ak | internal stufffffff.. | 20:51 |
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| minwang2 | i will be out of town tomorrow… | 20:51 |
| johnsom | Ok, let's put it on our todo lists, if you get time great. | 20:51 |
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| johnsom | Otherwise I will bring it up again next week | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | k | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Anything else? | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks again for the work on Octavia 0.8.0! | 20:53 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 20:53:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:53 |
| minwang2 | thank you! | 20:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-03-16-20.01.html | 20:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-03-16-20.01.txt | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks y'all! | 20:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-03-16-20.01.log.html | 20:53 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 20:53 |
| madhu_ak | Bye all! | 20:53 |
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| TrevorV|Home | \o | 20:54 |
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