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| cdent | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 14:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| bauzas | aloha | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hello | 14:00 |
| cdent | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler | 14:00 |
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| alaski | o/ | 14:01 |
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| _gryf | \o | 14:01 |
| cdent | The first thing on the agenda is this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297898/ but jay's not going to be here until a bit and I'm not sure tim is here so perhaps we should shuffle things around a bit. I'm not sure this policy based scheduler maps to resource providers well so though jay's input might be good. | 14:02 |
| cdent | Agree to punt that discussion until after bugs? | 14:02 |
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| cdent | Yeah, I see no thinrichs | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | agreed | 14:03 |
| cdent | Anybody have other specs they'd like to discuss? | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | I'm working on the check-destination-on-migrations spec | 14:03 |
| bauzas | for providing a migration call to create a RequestSpec for the existing instances | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | cdent: yeah, I want to bring up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | cdent: I added in the comments a second approach to achieve synchronization between Nova and Neutron | 14:05 |
| cdent | bauzas: you have a link yet or is it not pushed yet? | 14:05 |
| bauzas | not yet | 14:05 |
| ruby_ | 297898: If Tim (thinrichs) does not join, I can take any questions | 14:05 |
| cdent | mlavalle: that's your comment on patchset 5, eventual consistency? | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | cdent: correct | 14:05 |
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| cdent | bauzas: are you up to date on 263898 (I'm not)? | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | cdent: I would like feedback from the team and also guidance from jaypipes as to how Neutron can release back resources to NOva | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: I should re-read that, I was worred about us loosing the nice properties of the resource reservation | 14:06 |
| cdent | jaypipes said he might show up about 20 minutes into the meeting. | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: I quite like the idea of neutron delegating the resource claims to this "external" scheduler (that currently lives in nova) | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: please take a look and let us know what you think | 14:07 |
| bauzas | cdent: no, sorry, I have to review this one | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I had a spec if we have time, just an awareness thing really | 14:07 |
| bauzas | mlavalle: tbh, I'm trying to review the already approved specs until the summit | 14:07 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I think we do | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | bauzas: :-) | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I have this idea around the scheduler and making it easier to configure: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256323/ | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | heya, I'm here now, sorry for being late. | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I hope to re-work this so its a regular spec soon | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and I have a prototype up, if folks are interested in what it might look like | 14:09 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: that's the one with (actual math)++? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: yeah | 14:09 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ++ | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: with a move of the scheduler filters to be simply DB queries, that wouldn't be necessary at all. | 14:10 |
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| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: i.e. the filters and weighers become just WHERE and ORDER BY expressions in the single SQL statement. no need for any of it any more. | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: well it would I think, it replaces all the weights | 14:10 |
| cdent | (db queries also equal actual math) | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the prototype is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286023/ | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: well I should clarify... | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: we could implement the it in SQL, but I still like the different approach for the configuration | 14:11 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: what do you mean by the different approach to configuration? | 14:11 |
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| jaypipes | I see just a single new option for listing of sched wgt classes | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: I have soft filters and hard filters | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: spec goes through why thats useful | 14:12 |
| * jaypipes very skeptical of any solution that adds more configuration options for the scheduler with its existing design... | 14:13 | |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: but, I will add a full review on the spec. | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: its trying to reduce the options, but I admit it fails | 14:13 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: why should we use SQL for existing filters ? | 14:13 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: we know that the performance is not really bad for python modules | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: we've discussed this before... see https://review.openstack.org/300178' | 14:14 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: you have seen my performance benchmarks, yes? the more compute nodes in the system, the worse the performance of the python-side filters becomes and the bigger a bottleneck it becomes. | 14:14 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: wait | 14:14 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: there are multiple filters | 14:15 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: 38% performance difference at only 800 nodes isn't "not really bad" IMHO. | 14:15 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I understand your reasons for CPU or memory filters, but you know that we have others | 14:15 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I am talking about the resource (quantitative) ones right now. | 14:16 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: okay, I thought you were saying about *all* the filters | 14:16 |
| cdent | bauzas: see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300178/ for a useful way to think about it | 14:16 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: my goal is to eventually get rid of them all, but right now that spec only discusses quantitative filters. | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | how do you get rid of the TrustedFilter which relies on an external service? if we're playing devil's advocate. | 14:17 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: tbh, you know my opinion, I prefer to have multiple schedulers running, rather than just one calling for 800 computes | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I have no idea why that statement is in opposition to my spec. | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: for the -3 users that use that filter, ok. | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | the external service is meant to report into the scheduler, via the compute node info I think? | 14:18 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: :) | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: some bits of data, yes, others are real-time, IIRC> | 14:19 |
| cdent | Can I make a suggestion? I've seen this discussion come up pretty much every scheduler meeting yet we never seem to resolve it. Can we put it on the agenda for the _next_ meeting so as to actually approach it with some thought and not derail this meeting with an item that was on the agenda? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | anywho, yeah, | 14:19 |
| mriedem | or the summit | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: can do the real time check after picking, but yeah, there are issues there | 14:19 |
| mriedem | there are 2 slots for scheduler at the summit | 14:19 |
| mriedem | jaypipes said he'd review johnthetubaguy's backlog spec | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: the use SQL thing? | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | anyway, what we really need is a functional scheduler-testing framework. Yingxin has a start of that proposed, but it's got a number of issues that I've commented on. Would appreciate more reviews on his patch, please. | 14:20 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: yeah, the extent thereof | 14:20 |
| cdent | and summit will be too late if we want to get it done for this cycle, I reckon | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so my spec should be independent of the SQL thing really | 14:20 |
| bauzas | agreed with johnthetubaguy | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I don't think its our biggest problem right now, if we can get the initial resource filters done in SQL | 14:21 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i'm just basing that on jay saying it might not be necessary given sql filtering | 14:21 |
| bauzas | and using SQL filters would mean that it would be a big-bang for users | 14:21 |
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| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: but it will add another configuration option that frankly won't be applicable after the filters/weighers are moved to SQL clauses... but ok. | 14:21 |
| bauzas | so, I prefer to see some stable situation with the existing system | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: it should be applicable after the move | 14:21 |
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| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: applicable how? you mean we would interpret class name strings differently? | 14:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: so, we shouldn't be referencing class names, it should just be named filters, but I guess I need to understand your proposal more to be sure | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | k | 14:23 |
| bauzas | TBH, I think we're discussing about a new Scheduler driver | 14:23 |
| bauzas | even for the SQL one | 14:23 |
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| bauzas | I'm fine with having both, just thinking we should possible create a very different driver | 14:24 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: that's certainly a possibility. | 14:24 |
| cdent | I think the clear thing we can take away from the last 23 minutes is that there are several specs pending, related to the scheduler, which need deeper review: johnthetubaguy's backlog idea, thinrichs policy based, the neutron routed networks, and the entire resource-* stack | 14:24 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:24 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256323/ | 14:24 |
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| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:jaypipes%2540gmail.com+status:open | 14:24 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297898/ | 14:24 |
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| bauzas | heh, is jaypipes@gmail.com a new patch series ? :p | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i think the priority for this week is getting the compute node inventory spec approved, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300175/ | 14:25 |
| cdent | with the caveat that mriedem wants us to not look at those yet, can we look at those soon please? | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | dan has a +2 on it, i went through it on friday and posted questions | 14:25 |
| mriedem | we agreed before to get compute node inventory in prior to the summit | 14:25 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I agree | 14:25 |
| cdent | mriedem++ | 14:26 |
| mriedem | we have a xp sessoin with neutron to discuss routed networks | 14:26 |
| mriedem | basically, | 14:26 |
| mriedem | wed morning the first 3 sessions are scheduler (2) + neutron xp (1) | 14:26 |
| mriedem | so sql filters + john's spec + neutron routed networks can be discussed wed morning of the summit, | 14:26 |
| mriedem | with any high level stuff sorted out before then | 14:26 |
| cdent | #action dogpile on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300175/ by everyone to get it approved this week | 14:27 |
| mriedem | but let's focus on the things we've actually agreed on already | 14:27 |
| mriedem | and hash the other stuff out in person | 14:27 |
| mriedem | or in reviews | 14:27 |
| cdent | moving on then? | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: looking at your comments on the spec, are there things would be an issue just fixing in a follow up? | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | (in the interests of making more progress on that effort) | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | i should reword that | 14:28 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i don't care about the nits, but i had some actual questions | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, I will keep reading | 14:28 |
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| cdent | mriedem: can you remind the log please of which etherpad is holding pending priorities? | 14:29 |
| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:29 |
| cdent | thanks | 14:29 |
| cdent | #topic reviews | 14:30 |
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| cdent | any other reviews? | 14:30 |
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| cdent | #topic open | 14:31 |
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| cdent | anything else from anyone? | 14:31 |
| _gryf | yup | 14:31 |
| bauzas | thinrichs seems not be there | 14:31 |
| _gryf | I have a question/thoughts about enabling FPGA as a resource | 14:31 |
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| cdent | jaypipes: you were invoked several time before you showed up, with regard to a couple specs people wanted your specific input on, they are in the #links above | 14:31 |
| _gryf | I've tried to gather the information the other day (spoke briefly with cdent and johnthetubaguy) | 14:31 |
| _gryf | however it seams | 14:31 |
| _gryf | that FPGA itself is not a trivial resource as CPU or memory, while it kind of rather quantitative type | 14:32 |
| jaypipes | cdent: yeah, I owe mlavalle and carl_baldwin a re-review on the routed networks spec. | 14:32 |
| _gryf | although it required some preparations before vm could be deployed on such fpga enabled compute | 14:32 |
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| _gryf | and might require some action after vm deleting | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | jaypipes: thanks :-) | 14:32 |
| jaypipes | mlavalle: sorry for delay :( | 14:32 |
| _gryf | and those are just for the start… | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | jaypipes: np | 14:32 |
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| bauzas | _gryf: possible a good point for the resource-* stuff | 14:32 |
| _gryf | bauzas, ues | 14:33 |
| _gryf | yes | 14:33 |
| bauzas | what I wonder is how we can extend that model easily | 14:33 |
| jaypipes | _gryf: so, I view FPGA algorithms as very similar to SR-IOV VFs. they are assigned to a particular guest after some amount of setup on the host. | 14:33 |
| bauzas | and yours is a nice usecase | 14:33 |
| _gryf | that's why i've chime in | 14:33 |
| _gryf | jaypipes, actually | 14:33 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: well, I think FPGA uses a different consumption algorithm than SR-IOV righT? | 14:34 |
| _gryf | fpga can be treated both - as a fixed accelerators - so those can be treated as a sr-iov virt functions | 14:34 |
| _gryf | or | 14:34 |
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| _gryf | as a accelerators with specific algorithms, for custom programs | 14:35 |
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| _gryf | so it is going to be a bit complicated | 14:35 |
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| bauzas | yeah, I think it's like vGPUs | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | _gryf: is there a way that one is images and the other is image_caching? | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: except we have to "provision" it from an "image" | 14:36 |
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| _gryf | it is also possible, that fpga can be divided into the regions, where one og them accelerating ovs (and is exposed via vf and sr-iov) and the other slots can be used for custom bitstreams | 14:36 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: not really... | 14:37 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, I was thinking about images | 14:37 |
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| _gryf | as an artifacts for in the glance glare project rather | 14:38 |
| bauzas | _gryf: do you have pointers for me ? FPGA makes me back to my school days | 14:38 |
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| _gryf | so that we don't have to spoil the image catalog in glance | 14:38 |
| _gryf | bauzas, I can prepare some ml thread with links to the stuff, if you interested :) | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | _gryf: we already have many type of image in there, in some deployments, we probably shouldn't over think that | 14:39 |
| bauzas | _gryf: yeah :) | 14:39 |
| bauzas | ++ | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, ML thread sounds good | 14:40 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, okay, that was just a thought :) | 14:40 |
| bauzas | _gryf: I can find some OpenPower docs, is that related ? | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess the simple case, deploy image X onto FPGA, and use it? | 14:40 |
| cdent | #action _gryf to make a mailing list posting about the issues with FPGA, scheduling, images | 14:40 |
| _gryf | bauzas, it might be - I've already bump on some white papers | 14:40 |
| bauzas | _gryf: okay, will continue digging | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, listing out the possible use cases seems good | 14:41 |
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| _gryf | ok, cool. I'll prepare something for tomorrow :) | 14:41 |
| cdent | thanks _gryf | 14:41 |
| cdent | anybody or anything else? | 14:41 |
| ruby_ | bauzas: thinrichs may not join (297898), I'll rep. Could we do this spec? | 14:41 |
| bauzas | _gryf: now, my point is, apart the usecases, are you already thinking of the implementation using the resource-classes, I guess ? | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | _gryf: I would worry more about the usage patterns that the solutions, to start with | 14:42 |
| _gryf | bauzas, that's right | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/that the/rather than the/ | 14:42 |
| bauzas | _gryf: okay, I think it would be nice to see some proposal in your ML thread :) | 14:42 |
| _gryf | ok. | 14:42 |
| cdent | anybody or anything else? | 14:43 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, I'll place the use cases as well. | 14:43 |
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| cdent | because if not we can give 15 minutes back to reviewing all that stuff that mriedem is cracking the whip about | 14:44 |
| cdent | once | 14:45 |
| cdent | twice | 14:45 |
| mriedem | wait | 14:45 |
| mriedem | ruby_: was asking to go over that policy driven scheduler spec twice now | 14:45 |
| ruby_ | yes please | 14:46 |
| mriedem | #link policy-based scheduler spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297898/ | 14:46 |
| cdent | cool | 14:46 |
| mriedem | ruby_: go ahead | 14:46 |
| cdent | gist seems to be that nobody has read it yet, other than reading it what is important to highlight? | 14:46 |
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| jaypipes | I read parts of it... | 14:46 |
| ruby_ | and? | 14:47 |
| jaypipes | looks like the authors haven't been following along what has been happening in the nova scheduler for the last few cycles and have just been trying to respind the solver scheduler into a new incarnation. | 14:47 |
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| ruby_ | no, it is not the solver scheduler | 14:47 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: are you familiar with what has happened in the nova scheduler and resource tracker since the Icehouse release? | 14:48 |
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| ruby_ | Somewhat | 14:48 |
| ruby_ | We studied the nova scheduler. | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | ruby_: did you see my suggested simplification of the filters and weights idea, that makes the configuration easier to understand, with the idea being all the filters you need come in the box | 14:48 |
| ruby_ | We read the filters+weights idea as well. We think policies may be more generic | 14:49 |
| ruby_ | Easen writing new "filters" (aka constraints for placement decision) | 14:50 |
| jaypipes | I am really not a fan of adding a YAML syntax to the scheduler. | 14:50 |
| ruby_ | YAML was to configure policies in the system, what the admin is expected to do. | 14:51 |
| cdent | I was under the impression, as well, that custom and/or new filters was not something we wanted to be in the business of encouraging? | 14:51 |
| ruby_ | Do you have another proposal (if not Yaml)? | 14:51 |
| cdent | Is that true or false? | 14:51 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: yes, my proposal is not to reinvent the scheduler using Congress. | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we don't expect users to write code today, generally we expect what comes in the box to be express enough for 80% of users, I am curious what scenarios you see as not possible today, given the current plans | 14:51 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: NFV. of course. | 14:52 |
| ruby_ | jaypipes: don't understand | 14:52 |
| alaski | cdent: the scheduler should be a somewhat open framework, within some constraints | 14:52 |
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| jaypipes | ruby_: the work items: | 14:52 |
| jaypipes | 1. Extract Datalog engine from OpenStack Congress into library | 14:52 |
| jaypipes | 2. Provide YAML front-end to the Datalog engine, and incorporate into library | 14:52 |
| jaypipes | 3. Ingest Nova database data into policy engine | 14:52 |
| alaski | cdent: so custom filters/weighers are not considered bad | 14:52 |
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| ruby_ | johntheubaguy: even some of the examples you cited in filter+weights are not offered as filters today | 14:52 |
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| ruby_ | jaypipes:the idea was to pull in the policy "core" engine. We are open to suggestions. | 14:53 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: basically, when I see proposed specs like this (and the solver scheduler spec had virtually the exact same problem) that list "extensibility" and "monitoring" as use cases for something, I just think that the spec is not specific enough about the problem it is trying to solve and does not clearly explain why the proposal would address some problem.. | 14:54 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: "extensibility" and "monitoring" are not use cases. | 14:54 |
| cdent | five minute warning | 14:55 |
| ruby_ | e.g. would we want weights to be configurable or context aware? when selecting from the filtered list? | 14:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I really think we need a specific set of use cases, so we can compare the approaches | 14:55 |
| bauzas | agreed | 14:56 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: "Understandability" is also not a use case. | 14:56 |
| ruby_ | ok, we will write up some use cases (policies) and give our reasoning. | 14:56 |
| bauzas | what I actually wonder is how we can integrate that with the existing | 14:56 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: and frankly, Datalog plus YAML does not understandable make. | 14:56 |
| bauzas | and what is really needed for achieving policy-based scheduling | 14:56 |
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| ruby_ | Datalog is the form the policies will be stored. But admins do not need to use datalog | 14:57 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: sorry to be harsh on this, but I've seen this academic approach to the scheduler proposed a number of times and I've yet to see any concrete use cases that it fulfills. | 14:57 |
| ruby_ | would a proof of concept implem help? | 14:57 |
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| ruby_ | bauzas: idea was to maintain the same scheduler API | 14:58 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: it would be great to see something that definitively shows that the existing scheduler makes the wrong decisions for scenario X and this propsed scheduler makes the correct decision. | 14:58 |
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| cdent | two minutes | 14:58 |
| bauzas | ruby_: so, your proposal is to have a separate scheduler driver that would use Congress as a backend ? | 14:58 |
| ruby_ | ok: yes | 14:58 |
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| ruby_ | is adjusting weights (ram/iops) etc based on context a useful case for you? | 14:59 |
| bauzas | ruby_: what I actually think - before talking of the implementation - is what kind of feature you would like to have | 14:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think jaypipes covered it well, its easier to review this when there are specific use cases where it demonstrates why the suggested approach beats the existing suggested approach | 14:59 |
| ruby_ | ok, we will improve the writing on this. | 14:59 |
| ruby_ | we will add some examples to the spec. | 14:59 |
| jaypipes | ruby_: that is really vague (about the context in a weight). you will need to be much more specific. | 14:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | a slight nit, Nova doesn't have a solver scheduler in tree, that is out of tree, AFAIK | 14:59 |
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| ruby_ | thanks for all the input. | 15:00 |
| cdent | times up | 15:00 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 4 15:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-04-04-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-04-04-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| cdent | thanks everyone | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-04-04-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| _gryf | thx | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 15:00 |
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| ihrachys | ok let's get it rolling | 15:02 |
| rossella_s | yeah | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 15:02:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:02 |
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| korzen | hello | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 15:02 |
| jschwarz | o/ | 15:02 |
| rossella_s | hello | 15:02 |
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| ihrachys | I don't have any announcements for the team, so let's get straight to the matter | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | #topic Partial Multinode Grenade | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s was going to analyze failure causes for the partial job we have | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: any updates? | 15:03 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, the failure rate is back to normal after few backports ...so I didn't analyze further | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=6&fullscreen | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | (be patient, it's opening slowly) | 15:05 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, seems like we are now under all other lines | 15:05 |
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| mhickey | Hello | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: hi | 15:06 |
| rossella_s | mhickey, welcome | 15:06 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: Hey. | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: so do we think we are ok to ask armax about getting it voting? | 15:06 |
| mhickey | rossella_s: Hey also! :) | 15:06 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, yay | 15:07 |
| electrocucaracha | I remember that he was reverting some changes related to tempest last friday | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: it was not related | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | not to grenade I mean | 15:07 |
| electrocucaracha | ok | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: ok, let's catch Armando once he is back online :) | 15:07 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, let's do that :) | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | I prefer we keep the topic at it until we get it voting. we'll get back to dvr flavour next time. | 15:08 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:08 |
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| ihrachys | ok, for objects, some tiny progress was made lately | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | we landed subnetpool | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/275789 | 15:09 |
| electrocucaracha | \o/ | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | we also landed dhcp options | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/273072 | 15:09 |
| rossella_s | I was distracted these last weeks | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | there are patches in flight to integrate those objects in plugin db code | 15:10 |
| korzen | I have rearrange the wiki page | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/285397 for dhcp options | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/300056 for subnetpool | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | for the latter, I hit an issue of not having access to standard attribute field | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | something that should be tackled by Jakub's decorator: | 15:10 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, right | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/292829 | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | there are other patches in flight, but most seem to be in WIP | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | ah actually one thing | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/300055 | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | this adds advanced search criteria support for get_objects | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | note that it changes filter format a bit | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | now instead of having key=val, we have key={val1,val2,...} | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | so if you pass multiple values, db layer applies IN operator | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | there is some work to do for the patch, probably some refactoring in common_db_mixin is needed | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | this is due to _get_collection being an instance method, not a class one | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | I may either go refactoring it first, then proceed with objects patch | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | or I leave TODO in objects.db.api and move on | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | what do folks think? | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | for some more context, | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300055/4/neutron/objects/db/api.py | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | line 30 | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | sorry, 40 | 15:14 |
| korzen | I think we may continue with plugin... | 15:14 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, hard to say...refactoring might be much more work than expected | 15:14 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: it seems that the plugin is actually need for some 'hooks' | 15:15 |
| korzen | does usage of plugin may help us in future? | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | honestly, that's the first time I encountered something like that | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | korzen: I guess it mostly depends on whether we need those hooks in objects db code. | 15:15 |
| * ihrachys searches for a link to hooks code | 15:16 | |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, I'd leave a TODO...I hope more people will join us after the summit and that's the kind of task that we could assign | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/common_db_mixin.py#L100 | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | note that it does not seems like core plugin only thing | 15:17 |
| rossella_s | nope | 15:17 |
| rossella_s | I think salv-orlando could know more | 15:17 |
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| rossella_s | not sure if he's around | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | I think that's an example of their usage: | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_common.py#L322 | 15:18 |
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| ihrachys | ok, probably something to talk to other seasoned folks. I will bring it to Salv and maybe Kevin. | 15:19 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, agreed | 15:19 |
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| ihrachys | anything more on objects side that I failed to mention? | 15:19 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, not sure how much that could change with pecan, better ask | 15:19 |
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| ihrachys | ok, let's move on | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 15:21 |
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| korzen | I have submitted the design talk about upgrades | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: yeah, we will need to wait for armax to set draft schedule | 15:22 |
| korzen | I would like to educate other Neutron contributors what upgrade is and discuss the next steps | 15:22 |
| korzen | after OVO is comlited | 15:22 |
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| mhickey | korzen: ++ | 15:23 |
| korzen | completed* | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | korzen: then is it a topic for this summit and not the next one? | 15:23 |
| korzen | for me it would be better to start design discussions now | 15:24 |
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| korzen | till full rolling upgrade support it would take Ocata to complete | 15:24 |
| korzen | but we will have early feedback | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | fair enough. I think the plan for OVO adoption itself may need some popularization/discussion | 15:24 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, yes! | 15:25 |
| korzen | would anyone have time to prepare the OVO pros/cons? | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | korzen: if we have a session assigned, I am glad to prepare it | 15:25 |
| korzen | I was thinking of more data migration and rpc pinning | 15:25 |
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| korzen | ok ihrachys thx | 15:26 |
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| ihrachys | ok we have one entry in open discussion section on the wiki | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | "Start working on using the Neutron objects in code base" | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | korzen: dare to elaborate? | 15:26 |
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| ihrachys | I think we started just that. or is there any concern with it? | 15:26 |
| korzen | yes, I would remind to everyone that completing the object API is not the end of the wokr | 15:27 |
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| korzen | work* | 15:27 |
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| korzen | I did not see the implementation patches | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | yeah. I think that splitting the matters as we did till now is still a good thing and we should stick to it. | 15:27 |
| korzen | but I have missed them :( | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | korzen: I mentioned one for dhcp options and subnetpool above | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | or is it not what you are looking for? | 15:28 |
| korzen | yes, I have seen it after posting the opens | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | oh ok | 15:28 |
| korzen | so I guess that we are save here | 15:28 |
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| ihrachys | yes folks, as korzen said: there should be integration patches for all objects we land | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | note that adoption patches may require some splitting itself | 15:29 |
| rossella_s | yes and will reveal bugs | 15:29 |
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| ihrachys | f.e. one patch adopting it in core plugin, then another one for service plugins | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | ok, I think we are good then. anything else to cover this meeting? | 15:30 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, nope, quick and crips | 15:30 |
| korzen | also we may correct the object API and that changes would not require to change the VERSION | 15:30 |
| electrocucaracha | so, I was thinking that the idea is to implement all the OVO and later go for integration patches | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: no. | 15:31 |
| korzen | until the object is not used, it is 1.0 | 15:31 |
| rossella_s | electrocucaracha, I don't think that's smart...we should start integrating before | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: we chose to go with objects first tactically | 15:31 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: since we were in Mitaka freeze mode | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: so we could not touch anything that would be unsafe for Mitaka release | 15:31 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: yes, we can skip object version change for the initial integration patch. | 15:31 |
| korzen | one more thing, we need SQL type decorators to be used in core neutron ;) | 15:32 |
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| rossella_s | korzen, is that really needed? | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: you will need to do the work once you adopt objects anyway | 15:34 |
| korzen | rossella_s, yes - that is required to use the code we have developed | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | well, I mean, you CAN hack it around | 15:34 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, I am just trying to delay till we really need it...I think our priority now is to start using the objects in the code | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | but eventually we indeed should switch to new types and remove hacks from objects | 15:35 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, agreed | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | agreed on priorities though | 15:35 |
| korzen | rossella_s, it is need to drop the TODOs in OVO code changing the type on-the-fly | 15:35 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: if type adoption patches are tiny, just propose them and we'll land them. note that models are used out of tree though, so there may be breakages and winning. :) | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | whining ;) | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | that direct usage of models is still something that we will eventually need to 'break' | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | but maybe it would be correct to do it AFTER we show 3parties a proper way to go (objects) | 15:37 |
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| ihrachys | otherwise they will first need to fix their code due to model change; then switch their code to objects. | 15:37 |
| korzen | ihrachys, ok, I agree on the priorities | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | 1 breaking change instead of 2 | 15:38 |
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| korzen | ihrachys, totaly agree :) | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | ok, so I assume we are done for today. keep up the good work. | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | ciao | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 4 15:38:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-04-04-15.02.html | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-04-04-15.02.txt | 15:38 |
| korzen | thanks | 15:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-04-04-15.02.log.html | 15:38 |
| electrocucaracha | bye | 15:39 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 16:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | hellooooooo | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | \p | 16:00 |
| jecarey | 0/ | 16:00 |
| amrith | ./ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | ooops | 16:00 |
| kgiusti | hey hey hey! | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | hey hey hey | 16:00 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | amrith, your little guys head shrunk | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, haypo, | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb, Nakato | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 16:00 |
| dims | o/ | 16:00 |
| * amrith yells to find HR | 16:00 | |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | not like that, argggg | 16:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | as i be quiet, lol | 16:01 |
| amrith | :) | 16:01 |
| rbradfor | o/ | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 16:01 |
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| amrith | harlowja_at_home, lucky you to be at home. | 16:01 |
| amrith | we have snow | 16:01 |
| amrith | 3-5" | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | where?? | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | snow u say | 16:01 |
| amrith | I'm sure dims is joining us from a hot tub ... | 16:02 |
| * harlowja_at_home runs to get skis on and travels to u | 16:02 | |
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| dims | lol | 16:02 |
| amrith | as he sips a nice drink | 16:02 |
| amrith | boston | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | 3-5" in april | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | interesting | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | anyways | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
| dims | y, happens occasionally :) | 16:02 |
| rbradfor | amrith, it has snowed here 3 times in past week, but no more then 2". not been skiing this year at all, very sad | 16:02 |
| kgiusti | amrith: here in Worcester MA we've got snow AND ice | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kgiusti, eck | 16:02 |
| amrith | no red flags from oslo at this time | 16:02 |
| kgiusti | amrith: and street crime, but that's entirely different... | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | i grew up in albany (and/or upstate NY) sooo ya | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | i remember the ice storms :( | 16:03 |
| bknudson | no red flags from keystone as far as I know. | 16:03 |
| johnsom | Nothing to report here | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | sweet, good good | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | nothing to report from neutron. we have some oslo related reviews that folks may be interested in, but they will need some more time | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ihrachys, nice, thx | 16:04 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Summit planning | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit planning (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:05 | |
| harlowja_at_home | so in other news, the summit is getting closer and closer! | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | and that means oslo get-together-time | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, put up the sessions we have @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-summit-planning | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | i also started a poll for getting feedback from folks about which topics to have | 16:06 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, and there is an iCal calendar for people to import. | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | #link http://stickymoose.com/ZjkhpiBZ0mmGrug | 16:06 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i was lucky that i got a moose related site | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | *for the poll | 16:07 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, true ++ | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | if people get some time running through http://stickymoose.com/ZjkhpiBZ0mmGrug would be cool | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | it will help figure out which topics --> slots/sessions | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i think that poll i set to end in 4 days, which seems reasonable | 16:08 |
| bknudson | how many votes do I get?? | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:09 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ummm | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | as many as u feel u want to give :-P | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | if mickey mouse starts to show up as having polled ... lol | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | just say no to mickey mouse... | 16:10 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anyway, goal of that was to just make the process a little more democratic :-P | 16:10 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Mitaka update | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mitaka update (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:12 | |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, is there anything not worthy to talk about in this area? | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | *note worthy, | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:12 |
| bknudson | let's ship this thing already and move on | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:13 |
| * rbradfor happy that requirements has opened up, allows for some requirements.txt updates | 16:13 | |
| amrith | bknudson, what? it isn't shipped yet? | 16:13 |
| amrith | I'm waiting for openstack/releases to list newton | 16:14 |
| bknudson | amrith: still rc's as far as I know. | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | ship the thing!!! and then move on, lol | 16:14 |
| dims | amrith : next week | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | or move on then ship the thing | 16:14 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home : y this week is release week | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | man, shipping the thing week, lol | 16:14 |
| dims | release the krakens/hounds/beast | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:14 |
| bknudson | tell people to install from master | 16:15 |
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| amrith | ++ | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | and/or live dangerously | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Blog blog blog | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blog blog blog (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:16 | |
| harlowja_at_home | so to continue with the topic from last week | 16:16 |
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| harlowja_at_home | I just wanted to remind people to look over https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo_blog | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | i really want to make this happen, cause i think it needs to :) | 16:16 |
| rbradfor | still looking for volunteers to blog next cycle on Oslo Libraries ^^ | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo_blog | 16:16 |
| * rpodolyaka has some ideas for posts about oslo.db | 16:17 | |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, feel free to write different types imho to | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | like 100 for intro, 200 level for slightly more advanced and 300 --> 500 level for advanced, lol | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | or is that to close to school/class levels, lol | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | DinaBelova, do u want to maybe sign up for a osprofiler one? | 16:18 |
| rbradfor | The etherpad is meant as a minimum of getting started. We are encouraging ad-hoc oslo related | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | yup | 16:18 |
| * DinaBelova reading | 16:18 | |
| rbradfor | DinaBelova, L37 is seeking your name | 16:19 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i'll see if i can drag some rackspace guy into writing an ad-hoc one about how they use taskflow internally for there hadoop product | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | *that'd be a good one i think | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | I'm trying to understand what's this doc about | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | a-ha got the idea | 16:19 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, speaking of that, we need a list (maybe wiki) of projects outside of OpenSTack using the oslo libraries. | 16:20 |
| DinaBelova | sure | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, yes, that would be nice (if we can gather such info) | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, i'll see if i can start one, i know some people that are using things, but the list probably goes much farther than what i know | 16:20 |
| * harlowja_at_home if only pypi gave more stats about this | 16:20 | |
| harlowja_at_home | (don't think it does) | 16:21 |
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| rbradfor | I wonder if github could share people that have forked projects, and we could reach out them. | 16:21 |
| rbradfor | https://github.com/openstack/taskflow/network/members | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | hmmm | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | good idea | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, let's start a etherpad, wiki or something, and see what we can find out, seems like a little detective work is needed, ha | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | u can play PI | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:22 |
| rbradfor | e.g. https://github.com/openstack-dev/pbr/network/members lead to me randomly picking somebody, and they work at surveymonkey? was it personal, are they using it? | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | interesting, pbr especially could be used by tons of people | 16:23 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, sure, lets see what API's github has | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Summit misc | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit misc (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:23 | |
| harlowja_at_home | so I think rbradfor also has some stickers on the way! | 16:24 |
| rbradfor | #action rbradfor to start list for other projects using oslo libraries | 16:24 |
| rbradfor | #link http://ronaldbradford.com/blog/get-your-oslo-swag-in-austin-2016-03-31/ | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | bnemec, are u going to bring the moose this time? | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | also btw, if people aren't able to make it to austin and they want me to try to setup a video so they can link in, let me know | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | i can try to make some of the sessions more accessible for remote folks | 16:25 |
| rbradfor | anybody in Oslo team with infants < 12 months. I have a bag of dummies with the Openstack logo on them. | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | not going to guarantee that it will be high-quality video, but i can try :) | 16:25 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, perhaps we can create a Google Hangouts specific link, and use in sessions | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | right | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | something along those lines | 16:26 |
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| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, I'll pack a second laptop | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool, i can also if needed | 16:26 |
| bnemec | harlowja_at_home: Not sure. I've downsized my luggage since Vancouver. :-/ | 16:27 |
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| harlowja_at_home | so if u aren't able to make it (find me on IRC or email) and let me know, if there are people that want such a thing, then i'll do my best to make it happen :-P | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, is mirantis going to bring there remote-bot thingy | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | maybe we can use that | 16:27 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, can I suggest you add your nic to the etherpad of attending/not attending. | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | *telepresence robot | 16:28 |
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| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, yup yup | 16:28 |
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| dims | remote-bot? no clue :) | 16:29 |
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| harlowja_at_home | or was that some other company that had a robot | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | hmmm | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | someone quickly go build, https://www.ri.cmu.edu/images/projects/terk.jpg lol | 16:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Open discussion | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:30 | |
| rbradfor | anybody with a drone and GoPro? | 16:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | not me | 16:31 |
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| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, I'm interested in attending some other project work sessions, but would like to know (perhaps from liasons) what are good sessions for Oslo core to sit in on? | 16:31 |
| rbradfor | also helps us be available for questions of Oslo team | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, it's a good question | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | perhaps as this schedule stuff finalizes more we can create such a list | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | i think it would be good to have also | 16:32 |
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| harlowja_at_home | sounds like a good little thing for next weeks agenda :) | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | to see if we can gather such a useful list | 16:32 |
| bknudson | I haven't seen an agenda for keystone yet | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | right, thinking maybe next week it will get more flushed out | 16:33 |
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| harlowja_at_home | *hopefully flushed out before the summit happens, lol | 16:33 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | also folks, please add any large items (not bugs) to ^ | 16:34 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i'll work through some of those today, some of the older ones probably aren't valid anymore | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | like a few from may 2015, lol | 16:34 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anything else anyone wants to bring up? | 16:35 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, perhaps we can have part of fishbowl, just to review the specs, and gauge participant interest | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | def | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | good idea | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | sounds like a good little talk to have closer to the end of the summit week | 16:36 |
| rbradfor | wow, that's probably 3 for 3 today of good ideas, perhaps I should end the day early. | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, go home, take a break, lol | 16:36 |
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| harlowja_at_home | u have reached your quota for the day | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | alright, closing up in 5 | 16:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | last chance to rant about anything/something :-P | 16:37 |
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| harlowja_at_home | thanks for all coming, and let's continue with getting that M release out :) | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | 'let's ship this thing already and move on' | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 4 16:38:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-04-04-16.00.html | 16:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-04-04-16.00.txt | 16:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-04-04-16.00.log.html | 16:39 |
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| bknudson | thanks | 16:39 |
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| mfedosin | Courtesy meeting reminder ( #openstack-meeting-alt ): nikhil_k, ativelkov, mfedosin, docaedo, dshakhray, kfox111, kairat, nikhil, sudipto | 17:29 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 17:29 |
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| mfedosin | #startmeeting glare | 17:30 |
| nikhil_k | o/ | 17:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 17:30:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mfedosin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glare' | 17:30 |
| docaedo | o/ | 17:30 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 17:30 |
| mfedosin | #topic agenda | 17:30 |
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| mfedosin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda | 17:31 |
| mfedosin | #topic Updates | 17:31 |
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| mfedosin | First of all, I'm proud to say that we've implemented almost all things we have in Glance | 17:32 |
| nikhil_k | \o/ | 17:32 |
| mfedosin | it was our initial priority and now you may work with Glare in the same way as with Glance | 17:32 |
| mfedosin | tomorrow we're going to make a QA day for Glare | 17:33 |
| mfedosin | and test other scenarios that may break it | 17:33 |
| docaedo | cool! | 17:34 |
| docaedo | (and great work BTW!) | 17:34 |
| mfedosin | what have been done in last week | 17:34 |
| mfedosin | : | 17:34 |
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| mfedosin | Darja implemented listing support with filters and sorting | 17:34 |
| mfedosin | Kairat created new context middleware that works with oslo.context, not with homemade context class | 17:35 |
| mfedosin | I added tag and metadata support | 17:35 |
| mfedosin | also about 50 functional tests were added for Glare v1 | 17:36 |
| mfedosin | (listing tests are not merged yet, but will be tomorrow) | 17:36 |
| mfedosin | if I forgot something dshakhray kairat - please correct me :) | 17:37 |
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| mfedosin | that's all for updates | 17:37 |
| mfedosin | #topic Tags API is back | 17:37 |
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| mfedosin | I want to add sad smile here | 17:37 |
| mfedosin | but it seems it's the only way - json patch is not able to work with sets | 17:38 |
| mfedosin | so we decided to implement the solution that api-wg recommends | 17:38 |
| mfedosin | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/tags.html | 17:39 |
| mfedosin | it means 2 thing: 1. we have special requests for adding/removing tags. | 17:39 |
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| mfedosin | 2. json patch won't work with tags and return 400 when user tries to call it | 17:40 |
| mfedosin | sad, but true :( | 17:40 |
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| mfedosin | #topic TODO before the summit | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TODO before the summit (Meeting topic: glare)" | 17:41 | |
| mfedosin | next 3 weeks we're going to spend on features, especially for App Catalog | 17:41 |
| mfedosin | if everything is fine we will add versioning of artifacts this week | 17:42 |
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| docaedo | awesome | 17:43 |
| mfedosin | then for support of custom artifact types we need unified glare db api | 17:43 |
| mfedosin | I wish it will be implemented this week too | 17:43 |
| mfedosin | filtering is for various artifact properties and anonymous access is already implemented but not tested yet | 17:44 |
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| mfedosin | it means that Kirill will be able to write a code for App Catalog that uses v1 before the summit | 17:46 |
| mfedosin | and there we can show some demo with it | 17:46 |
| docaedo | swqeet | 17:46 |
| docaedo | *sweet | 17:46 |
| mfedosin | (I know there is so little time) | 17:47 |
| docaedo | yeah scary how fast the summit is approaching | 17:47 |
| mfedosin | I'll be sure about it next week | 17:47 |
| nikhil_k | This stuff is progressing with excellent pace! | 17:47 |
| nikhil_k | Can't believe we're still working in openstack! | 17:48 |
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| nikhil_k | :) | 17:48 |
| docaedo | hahaha | 17:48 |
| mfedosin | we're trying our best :) | 17:48 |
| mfedosin | nikhil_k: ;) | 17:48 |
| nikhil_k | great work guys! | 17:48 |
| mfedosin | now I have to say what won't be implemented before the summit | 17:48 |
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| mfedosin | two things | 17:48 |
| mfedosin | 1. quotas | 17:48 |
| mfedosin | we need to decide how to implement it | 17:49 |
| nikhil_k | eh, who wants quotas :D | 17:49 |
| mfedosin | there are two different proposals | 17:49 |
| mfedosin | from Fei Long and Nina | 17:49 |
| mfedosin | and afair there will be a disign session for it | 17:49 |
| nikhil_k | are you guys aware that quotas is taking a slightly different route | 17:50 |
| nikhil_k | ? | 17:50 |
| mfedosin | what do you mean? | 17:50 |
| nikhil_k | There will most likely be a CP session (given it's selected) on this spec | 17:50 |
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| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284454/ | 17:50 |
| nikhil_k | Depending on that outcome projects will decide on adopting that to-be common library | 17:50 |
| nikhil_k | so less work for us if that's successful | 17:51 |
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| docaedo | yeah that quotas - service vs. library thread you started was epic :) | 17:51 |
| mfedosin | okay, thanks for pointing | 17:51 |
| nikhil_k | :D | 17:51 |
| nikhil_k | you're welcome | 17:51 |
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| mfedosin | that why we skip this work in Glare until everything will be clear | 17:52 |
| docaedo | good plan | 17:52 |
| mfedosin | and also we skipped sharing | 17:52 |
| mfedosin | I need to discuss community sharing and other stuff | 17:52 |
| nikhil_k | sure | 17:52 |
| mfedosin | if this 2 things are not essential for App Catalog then we are fine :) | 17:53 |
| nikhil_k | community sharing needs a little bit of API change (Addition mostly) | 17:53 |
| mfedosin | nikhil_k: for sure | 17:54 |
| mfedosin | and finally: | 17:54 |
| mfedosin | #topic 'queued' status. Do you like this name? | 17:54 |
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| mfedosin | it was Alex Tivelkov proposal not to use this ugly name in Glare | 17:55 |
| docaedo | pending would be a nice alternate but I don't object to queued | 17:55 |
| mfedosin | and call it 'drafted' or something | 17:55 |
| nikhil_k | me neither | 17:55 |
| nikhil_k | I'd prefer to stay close to glance names if possible | 17:55 |
| nikhil_k | images rather | 17:56 |
| mfedosin | nikhil_k: so would I | 17:56 |
| nikhil_k | given metadefs don't | 17:56 |
| nikhil_k | mfedosin: would you? :) | 17:56 |
| mfedosin | okay, let's leave queued | 17:56 |
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| mfedosin | and if there will be concerns rename it | 17:56 |
| nikhil_k | k | 17:57 |
| nikhil_k | we've a cycle to make the renaming :) | 17:57 |
| nikhil_k | if needed | 17:57 |
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| nikhil_k | I'd a quick info item | 17:57 |
| mfedosin | #topic Open Discussion | 17:58 |
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| nikhil_k | I think mfedosin's doing great job at moving this fast on glare | 17:58 |
| nikhil_k | so, I'm a bit relieved on not having to sync across :) | 17:58 |
| nikhil_k | hence.. | 17:58 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/301263 | 17:58 |
| nikhil_k | :) | 17:58 |
| mfedosin | nikhil_k: I don't mind if you're chair too | 17:59 |
| nikhil_k | mfedosin: haha, thanks. It's just me making sure people know who to reach out to for glare questions as you're the most up to date and co-ordinating across teams.. :) | 17:59 |
| mfedosin | but anyway, you must attend the meetings =p | 18:00 |
| nikhil_k | surely | 18:00 |
| mfedosin | okay ;) | 18:00 |
| mfedosin | so, thanks for coming | 18:00 |
| nikhil_k | thanks | 18:00 |
| mfedosin | see you next week | 18:00 |
| mfedosin | bye! | 18:00 |
| mfedosin | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 4 18:00:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-04-04-17.30.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-04-04-17.30.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-04-04-17.30.log.html | 18:00 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 19:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: hi | 19:03 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-04-04 | 19:03 |
| catherineD | Let's start | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | #topic RefStack Newton summit discussion topics | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RefStack Newton summit discussion topics (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:07 | |
| sslypushenko | o/ | 19:07 |
| catherineD | meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-04-04 | 19:07 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: hi | 19:07 |
| catherineD | I create a link so we can put the refstack topics for discussion at Austin | 19:08 |
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| catherineD | #link Please add your topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-newton-summit | 19:08 |
| catherineD | For the speaker session I create this https://goo.gl/S69Nte | 19:09 |
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| andrey-mp | hi! | 19:09 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-04-04 | 19:09 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: Hi, will you be at the summit? | 19:10 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: yeah, we will there with Alex | 19:11 |
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| catherineD | great so we have an overlaps between RefStack and EC2 at 11:00 - 11:40 | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | if you and Alex are planning to attend the RefStack ... we will have to move the topics that you are interesting in to RefStack earlier session | 19:13 |
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| andrey-mp | (I don't know the schedule yet) | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | I can talk with Alexabout our plans - but I think its very early to us to make such decisions ) | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | I know EC2 has 2 working session on Wed from 11:00 - 12:30 | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | RefStack has 3 sessions on Wed from 9:00 - 11:40 | 19:15 |
| catherineD | so we overlap on 11:00 - 11:40 slots | 19:15 |
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| andrey-mp | I think that we will try to be on RefStack sessions | 19:15 |
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| catherineD | anyway could you add topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-newton-summit | 19:16 |
| catherineD | moving on | 19:16 |
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| andrey-mp | sure | 19:16 |
| catherineD | #topic Make puppet pull releases from Pypi | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Make puppet pull releases from Pypi (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:16 | |
| andrey-mp | review has merged | 19:16 |
| pvaneck | finally merged yep :) | 19:17 |
| catherineD | yup finally :-) | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | so the restack.openstack.org website is finally update to with the RefStack repository | 19:17 |
| andrey-mp | really? | 19:18 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: thanks for keeping working with infra on this | 19:18 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: yes we are at version 1.0.3 | 19:18 |
| andrey-mp | cool | 19:18 |
| sslypushenko | pvaneck: Great job! | 19:18 |
| andrey-mp | but do you have a link to pypi website to RefStack package? | 19:19 |
| pvaneck | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/refstack | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | thanks! search didn't show me this package | 19:20 |
| pvaneck | not sure why refstack doesnt show up when you search 'refstack' though | 19:20 |
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| pvaneck | yea, I wonder if there is a setting to make it searchable or something | 19:20 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: let's look into that .. | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: thanks again for the pypi work .. this is an importnat milestone for RefStack | 19:21 |
| catherineD | moving on ? | 19:21 |
| pvaneck | yep | 19:22 |
| catherineD | #topic Vendor registation | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vendor registation (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:22 | |
| andrey-mp | another question - why so many tags? :) I thought that we will implement/test some functionality and then tag the release | 19:22 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: 1.0.1 is the first test of tag .. | 19:23 |
| andrey-mp | yes ) | 19:23 |
| catherineD | 1.0.2 is a tag that we want to release some of the user request features like get test list ... | 19:23 |
| andrey-mp | ah, ok ) | 19:23 |
| catherineD | 1.0.3 is a test of the puppet patch | 19:23 |
| andrey-mp | I'got your point | 19:24 |
| andrey-mp | lt's move | 19:24 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: Alex said that you were busy until April ... do you have time for vendor registration implementation? you have most of the code already .. | 19:25 |
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| andrey-mp | I think that I have some time to do it | 19:26 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: that is really great ... thank you ... | 19:26 |
| andrey-mp | and I want to say you - can I extract code of vendors UI or its better to implement REST API of product/software registration? | 19:26 |
| andrey-mp | ops - ask you ) | 19:27 |
| andrey-mp | not say, sorry ) | 19:27 |
| catherineD | I think it is best to implement the REST API for vendor registration first | 19:27 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: sslypushenko: your thoughts? | 19:28 |
| catherineD | for product registration we need the spec to merge first | 19:28 |
| andrey-mp | yeah, you are right. we merged user management API but not vendors API | 19:28 |
| catherineD | #link product registration spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292526/ | 19:28 |
| sslypushenko | catherineD: agreed | 19:29 |
| andrey-mp | ok, I'll make review for vendors API next days | 19:29 |
| catherineD | the spec for vendor registration already merged | 19:29 |
| catherineD | #link vendore registation spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274837/ merged Mar 3 | 19:30 |
| catherineD | so we can start the implementation of vendor registration | 19:30 |
| andrey-mp | and then what we want more - vendors UI or product REST API? | 19:30 |
| andrey-mp | (after approving the spec for products) | 19:31 |
| catherineD | so I see 4 implementation patches 1) vendor registation 2) product registration 3) vendor UI 4) product UI | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | of course we have to do 1 first | 19:32 |
| andrey-mp | in the same sequence? | 19:32 |
| catherineD | not necessary ... | 19:33 |
| andrey-mp | ok | 19:33 |
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| catherineD | UI may take a long time to discuss so I think after 1 ... if you can do 2 and 3 together (different patches) if possible | 19:34 |
| andrey-mp | I'll try :) | 19:35 |
| catherineD | we need to have vendor registration so at least to on board funcdation member so we can start talking about archiveing data | 19:35 |
| catherineD | we have more and more data now on the website that need to be removed or archive soon .. | 19:36 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: thank you very much! | 19:36 |
| andrey-mp | my current UI implementation for vendors still there - http://52.49.129.72:8000/ | 19:36 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: great ! | 19:37 |
| catherineD | #action catherineD: sslypushenko: pvaneck: to review UI on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292526/ for next week discusion | 19:37 |
| catherineD | sorry wron link | 19:38 |
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| catherineD | #action the UI link is http://52.49.129.72:8000/ | 19:38 |
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| sslypushenko | heh, very reach UI), cool! | 19:39 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: it is good that we have a sample to review ... | 19:39 |
| catherineD | moving on | 19:39 |
| catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:39 |
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| catherineD | #link Handle the cases guideline download failure with Test list download https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296985/ | 19:40 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: sslypushenko: could you please review ... I think this patch is ready to be merged | 19:40 |
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| sslypushenko | merged) | 19:41 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: lightening fast !!!!!! :-) | 19:41 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: ++++ | 19:41 |
| catherineD | :-) | 19:41 |
| catherineD | #link Add/refactor functional API tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300273/ | 19:41 |
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| catherineD | this one is also ready for merging ... | 19:42 |
| catherineD | next | 19:42 |
| catherineD | #link REST API spec to retrieve DefCore Guideline files and test lists https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296829/ | 19:42 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: I answer to your question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296829/ | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko | I'll review last patch today | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko | refactor patch looks ready to merge | 19:43 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko: yep I think the refactor patch is ready to merge tooo | 19:44 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: yeah, I saw you answer. | 19:44 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: any input? | 19:44 |
| catherineD | suggestion? | 19:45 |
| andrey-mp | only +1 right now ) | 19:45 |
| catherineD | this patches is mostly for DefCore there are so many aliases tests names added ...so dynamically that a static list will require a lot of maintenant | 19:46 |
| andrey-mp | I think that we will have bug discussion later - when we will add new guidelines | 19:46 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: yes agreed | 19:46 |
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| andrey-mp | bug->big | 19:46 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: it makes a good topic for the f-2-f at the summit ... | 19:47 |
| andrey-mp | yeah :) | 19:47 |
| catherineD | that is all the topics I have for today ... | 19:48 |
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| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:48 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko: are you OK with the topic arrangement of speaker in https://goo.gl/S69Nte | 19:49 |
| sslypushenko | catherineD: yeap) perfect) | 19:50 |
| catherineD | great | 19:50 |
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| catherineD | anything else to discuss? | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko | catherineD: Do you know what time our presentation will take place? | 19:51 |
| catherineD | It is Monday at 11:15 -- 11: 55 | 19:52 |
| sslypushenko | thx! | 19:52 |
| pvaneck | right after the keynotes | 19:52 |
| pvaneck | nice to get it out of the way the first day | 19:52 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: ++ | 19:52 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko: andrey-mp: so glat that we will meet in person | 19:53 |
| catherineD | that is all for today | 19:54 |
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| catherineD | we can end 5 mins early ... | 19:54 |
| sslypushenko | + | 19:54 |
| catherineD | Thank you all! | 19:54 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 4 20:00:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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| jmckind | o/ | 20:00 |
| panatl | o/ | 20:00 |
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| mp1 | o/ | 20:01 |
| diazjf | o/ yooooo | 20:01 |
| silos | \o/ | 20:01 |
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| edtubill | o/ | 20:01 |
| redrobot | As usual the agenda can be found here: | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | And since nobody added agenda items, I'm just going to make them up as we go. :) | 20:03 |
| redrobot | #topic Mitaka Release | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | I think this was done already... I was trying to look for the url to the mailing list announcement but I can't seem to find it. | 20:05 |
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| alee | o/ | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | hmm... actually I take that back | 20:08 |
| redrobot | we did release RC2 | 20:08 |
| redrobot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/091021.html | 20:08 |
| redrobot | I think the final release is still pending? | 20:08 |
| redrobot | should be the same tarball anyway | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | any questions/comments about the RC2 release? | 20:09 |
| redrobot | I guess not... ok, moving on. | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | #topic Austin Summit Planning | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-barbican-design-sessions | 20:10 |
| redrobot | just a reminder that this is the etherpad we're using to plan the summit. | 20:10 |
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| arunkant | o/ | 20:12 |
| redrobot | I'll be updating the summit details in the schedule this week | 20:12 |
| redrobot | any questions/comments about the summit? | 20:12 |
| redrobot | we should probably start submitting Newton blueprints now | 20:12 |
| redrobot | so we can review them before the summit. | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/barbican-specs+status:open | 20:14 |
| redrobot | you guys are a quiet bunch today | 20:14 |
| redrobot | #topic Open Discussion | 20:15 |
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| woodster_ | o/ | 20:15 |
| diazjf | redrobot, lets talk about bugs | 20:15 |
| diazjf | -:X | 20:15 |
| redrobot | diazjf sure! | 20:15 |
| redrobot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/ | 20:15 |
| redrobot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-barbicanclient/ | 20:16 |
| redrobot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/castellan | 20:16 |
| diazjf | One question I have lingering is should GET /secrets/{uuid} Accept: text/plain -> 406 or return payload if present, I remeber hearing something on legacy barbican needing to return the payload. This is for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/1561701 | 20:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1561701 in Barbican "Incorrect Error Code when Passing Accept Header on a Secret GET" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Fernando Diaz (diazjf) | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | diazjf yeah, if there is a payload we _should_ return it when the accept header is application/octet-stream, or text/plain for passwords | 20:17 |
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| diazjf | perfect then that bug is complete after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299108/ | 20:18 |
| redrobot | diazjf awesome | 20:18 |
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| diazjf | redrobot, gracias | 20:19 |
| redrobot | any other questions/comments/bugs/reviews ? | 20:19 |
| redrobot | if not we'll have a record-setting short meeting | 20:19 |
| redrobot | alrighty, let's call it a day then | 20:22 |
| redrobot | thanks everyone for coming! | 20:22 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:22 |
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