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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 13 14:01:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:01 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | \o> | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | well then, this should be quick and painless | 14:03 |
| sgordon | for the benefit of the tape | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #topic next steps | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091356.html | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | #info Product Working group now has two meeting times, Mondays at 2100 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt and Tuesdays at 0200 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #info telco working group use case document have successfully been transitioned to openstack-user-stories | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #info telco working group-specific meetings will be cancelled from here on out, recommending that instead folks advocate for the relevant use cases in the context of the product working group | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18sE7S-frAFlSyOjzMLQoFAOQ2yylaLGJehJHyOEAqr4/edit | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #info spreadsheet lists current priority ranking for product working group | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-user-stories | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | #action sgordon to send notice to list, make changes to irc-meetings repo | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | #topic open discussion | 14:06 |
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| cloudon1 | oops, apologies, missed the start | 14:07 |
| cloudon1 | was going to ask mainly process questions about the ProductWG | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, \o/ | 14:08 |
| sgordon | ok | 14:08 |
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| sgordon | so i think the confusion was their process with regards to the move from draft->proposed (as they are getting rid of draft) | 14:08 |
| sgordon | was that we proposed the moves, they merged them | 14:08 |
| sgordon | then we were supposed to make a minor change to trigger a new review | 14:08 |
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| sgordon | i think we mostly did this, with the exception of... | 14:09 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290347/ | 14:09 |
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| cloudon1 | So it's sitting in merged but with the wrong owner - I just need to touch it? | 14:10 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, yup | 14:10 |
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| cloudon1 | And what about the high scale telco media one, where there's https://review.openstack.org/290992 in merged and https://review.openstack.org/290991 in open? | 14:11 |
| sgordon | correct | 14:12 |
| sgordon | 290991 is for the actual discussion | 14:12 |
| sgordon | iirc | 14:12 |
| cloudon1 | Also complex instance placement is in both - https://review.openstack.org/299337 and https://review.openstack.org/290459 | 14:12 |
| sgordon | yes but only one of those is open | 14:13 |
| cloudon1 | Thought after discussion it went to merged? | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | yes | 14:15 |
| sgordon | but the discussion happens on an open review | 14:15 |
| sgordon | which there is one of | 14:15 |
| sgordon | the change of those two that is merged just changed the directory and was rubber stamped | 14:16 |
| sgordon | i would personally prefer that the discussion happened then too but i believe they wanted to clean up the old directory structure sooner rather than having it linger | 14:16 |
| cloudon1 | Sorry, probably being thick. So https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290347/ is in merged but I need to touch it to prompt dicussion - will that move it from merged to open? | 14:17 |
| sgordon | no it will make a new change | 14:18 |
| sgordon | which will be openm | 14:18 |
| sgordon | -m | 14:18 |
| sgordon | once a change is merged, it is merged | 14:18 |
| sgordon | to revert it would in effect itself be to create a new change | 14:18 |
| sgordon | no discussion is going to happen on the merged change | 14:19 |
| cloudon1 | OK, think I understand. Kinda :) | 14:19 |
| sgordon | as you have already discovered the filtering also tends to automatically stick to status:open unless you ask it to go looking for status:merged etc | 14:19 |
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| cloudon1 | Though I don't get the reference to only one of https://review.openstack.org/290992 and https://review.openstack.org/290991 being open - can you explain what you meant by that? | 14:20 |
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| sgordon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290992/ Remove High Scale Telco Media Apps From, Draft Status: Merged | 14:22 |
| sgordon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290991/ -> High Scale Media Telco Apps User Story, Status: open | 14:22 |
| sgordon | only 290991 is open | 14:22 |
| sgordon | ergo, that is where the discussion will occur | 14:22 |
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| cloudon1 | Sorry, I know this must be frustrating for you. Is there any link to a good explanation of this? I've been looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories but it just talks about a flow from proposed (which I infer is status:open) to merged and I can't figure out why it;s ok there should be separate open and merged versions - unless that's just an aberration resulting from the whole "get rid | 14:25 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, are you on the product-wg mailing list? | 14:29 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, the reason is that this is a point in time quirk because there used to be a "draft" area | 14:29 |
| cloudon1 | Good qn. Is it separate from the main openstack-dev one? | 14:29 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, now there is not | 14:29 |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/product-wg | 14:30 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, so in future people will just submit stuff against proposed and the discussion will happen in the same change | 14:30 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, but for the stuff being moved they wanted to move it right away so they could remove the old folder | 14:30 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, and discuss later | 14:30 |
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| cloudon1 | OK, makes sense. Am subscribed now... | 14:31 |
| sgordon | np | 14:31 |
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| cloudon1 | Which actually takes me to my main qn: was on the ProductWG IRC on Mon night. There was a discsussion of the status of the ~5 prio user stories - but nothign I saw about "let's discuss some of the others". | 14:32 |
| cloudon1 | Have I missed a boat here? Has prio already been decided for N? | 14:32 |
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| dronshaw | sgordon: sorry late to meeting. seems you mentioned there will be no more reoccuring WG meetings and are recommending attending the Product WG. am I understanding that correctly? | 14:35 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, sorry - there has yeah | 14:47 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, we need to get a few more telco folks involved over there | 14:48 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, there was voting via the list which already completed | 14:48 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, which is where their top 5 comes from | 14:48 |
| sgordon | dronshaw, yes, correct | 14:48 |
| cloudon1 | Ah, ok. Probably worth publicising the separate ML to the original TelcoWG crowd? | 14:49 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, yeah | 14:50 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, i gave myself an AI up above for a wrap up email | 14:50 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, that needs to go in there | 14:50 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, i have to check how the irc-meetings repo works and whether when cleaning up the meeting entry i can leave a pointer "hey, go here->" | 14:50 |
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| sgordon | cloudon1, i am going to wrap now but will try get an email out with those details today | 14:53 |
| sgordon | cloudon1, thanks for the reminder about the list | 14:54 |
| cloudon1 | thanks | 14:54 |
| cloudon1 | & hope to bump into you in Austin | 14:54 |
| sgordon | yep, will be there | 14:54 |
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| sgordon | hopefully having blocked out enough of my schedule to mostly focus on ops and design sessions | 14:55 |
| sgordon | ;) | 14:55 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 13 14:55:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-04-13-14.01.html | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-04-13-14.01.txt | 14:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-04-13-14.01.log.html | 14:55 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| Swami_ | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 13 15:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #chair Swami_ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami Swami_ haleyb | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:01 | |
| Swami_ | Do we have anymore RC builds on its way. | 15:02 |
| haleyb | Just one announcement - Mitaka is out! Good job improving DVR everyone | 15:02 |
| haleyb | Nope, we're done, on to Newton | 15:02 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: thanks | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:02 | |
| haleyb | Swami's favorite topic :) | 15:03 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: thanks | 15:03 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: Yes for sure. | 15:03 |
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| Swami_ | This week we had two more new bugs filed. | 15:03 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1569918 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1569918 in neutron "Allowed_address_pair fixed_ip configured with FloatingIP after getting associated with a VM port does not work with DVR routers" [Undecided,New] | 15:03 |
| Swami_ | This is regarding the Allowed_address_pairs and FIP with DVR. | 15:04 |
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| Swami_ | This issue is seen when the floatingip is associated later to the attached VRRP port. | 15:04 |
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| Swami_ | I do have a patch for it. It is still WIP. | 15:04 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304905/ | 15:04 |
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| haleyb | I'll take a look | 15:05 |
| Swami_ | Will be updating with tests today. I had some UT failure yesterday on that patch. | 15:05 |
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| Swami_ | This was one of the requirements from the LBaaS folks. | 15:05 |
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| Swami_ | The next one in the list is | 15:06 |
| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1568197 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1568197 in neutron "Problems with neutron.common.constants import break HA and DVRHA functionality" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte) | 15:06 |
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| Swami_ | This is related to DVR SNAT HA. | 15:06 |
| Swami_ | Right now it seems that the neutron_lib constants is overriding the constants defined in the common/constants. | 15:07 |
| Swami_ | That is the cause of this problem. | 15:07 |
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| haleyb | Do we need to update neutron_lib ? | 15:07 |
| Swami_ | Adolfo has uploaded a patch to fix this issue. | 15:07 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes it seems that it is better to handle it in neutron lib or to use neutron-lib import whereever possible. | 15:07 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303662/ | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | Right, should we also start a change against neutron-lib to fix the constant? | 15:09 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I think so. | 15:09 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: I do see in Adolfo's patch that he is trying to check if the constants are in there and if not adding it in. This would be a redundant check. But I think we should also add the constant in the neutron-lib if it makes sense. | 15:11 |
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| Swami_ | Those are the only two new bugs this week. | 15:13 |
| haleyb | yes, that's where the shared things live. Of course we might need to carry something in neutron to deal with this since someone could have an old neutron-lib | 15:13 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: yes this is an ugly bug that no one would have imagined. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | I figured neutron-lib would cause some of this, but i digress | 15:15 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: That's all I had for the new bugs. | 15:16 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: we still have the unresolved bugs that we need to speed up, since it is piling up. | 15:16 |
| haleyb | Swami_: any old bugs that still need attention? | 15:16 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: The snat_move bug requires attention | 15:17 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300268/ | 15:17 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: This bug has a dependency on the autoscheduler remove patch that was posted by John and amuller. | 15:17 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285480/ | 15:18 |
| haleyb | ah, that's why it fails that test | 15:18 |
| haleyb | I see that was updated this morning, but failing jenkins | 15:19 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: That patch is failing jenkins for a while | 15:19 |
| haleyb | It's throwing an sqlalchemy exception | 15:20 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: I have not looked back at the fixed_ip issue with floatingips, since I was working on other bugs. But I will try to look into it once I finish of the existing ones. | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I also had a comment on the #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1564776 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564776 in neutron "DVR l3 agent should check for snat namespace existence before adding or deleting anything from the namespace" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | Sure, must be on one of my comments | 15:22 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes I do see your comment now, I will try to address it today. | 15:23 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: too many context switch for these patches, so bare with me. | 15:23 |
| haleyb | np | 15:23 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: I am also having some trouble with this patch. | 15:24 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302068/ | 15:24 |
| Swami_ | There is some sort of timing issue, with the agent receiving the router_update rpc message from the server when the agent restarts. | 15:24 |
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| Swami_ | obondarev had a comment in there to address this case in the namespace cleanup rather than in dvr_edge_router. | 15:25 |
| haleyb | I will take a look, somehow wasn't on that review | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | But this is related to 'gw_port_host' being null, when router_update comes in, if we address it in the cleanup then it would delete the namespace but might not cleanup the other rules in the router_namespace. | 15:25 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: Right now even that fix with the patch is not 100% successful, it is only 50-50 because of the timing issue. | 15:26 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I need to revisit it, to find out why the agent is missing the router_update. | 15:27 |
| haleyb | ok, let me know if you need help | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: Are you aware of any time out for the rpc messages in the queue. How long does the queue hold the message for the agent, if the agent is dead. | 15:27 |
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| haleyb | Swami_: i don't know, but thought it was a long time | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: ok, I am seeing such behavior. | 15:29 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: that's all I had for bugs. | 15:31 |
| haleyb | Swami_: ok, thanks | 15:31 |
| haleyb | #topic Gate failures | 15:32 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: Right now the gate jobs seem to be behaving right. | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | With all the other gate issues this week, DVR hasn't been a big problem | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: The multinode job for DVR is littler bit higher than other jobs. | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | s/littler/little | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | yes, that is the only one | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I still haven't had a chance to go through the logstash in the past week, sorry the bugs are keeping me bussy | 15:37 |
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| haleyb | Keep doing what you're doing, I don't think this is a big issue at the moment - no fires | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: ok no problem | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | #topic Stable backports | 15:38 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : depending upon where you are I can cover for you | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | i mean next week | 16:11 |
| yamamoto | it seems the bot came back | 16:11 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: appreciated (although you might not get credit for today if we cancel ;) ) | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | :-) | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto : let me try - hang on | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 13 16:12:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto rkukura : we are in business | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_April_13.2C_2016 | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | Newton is open for business | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | and Mitaka is behind up | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | s/up/us | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | #Austin Summit Design Sessions | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | total of 9 design sessions | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | and two Friday sessions | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : we should work on agenda for ML2 session on Friday morning session | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: yes | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | Here is the link to the etherpad for Friday AM session - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-unplugged-track | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-unplugged-track | 16:17 |
| rkukura | Some ML2 stuff will also be covered on the “future of Neutron architecture” session on Wednesday | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : yes | 16:18 |
| rkukura | But I agree we should have a session on Friday | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | Is anything scheduled regarding Manila and HPB? | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: so far nothing that I know of - but, armax email mentioned he is working on the details for these sessions | 16:20 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | I am thinking that will go either in the API session or Architecture session | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: not camping out in the neutron fishbowl for the week? | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : what do you mean? | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I just meant that many of us are usually at all or most Neutron sessions, unless we have conflicts | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | oh I see - yes, I will be mostly in the neutron fishbowl and customer meetings | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | There is a cross-project session neutron-ironic, but, it is on Tuesday | 16:24 |
| rkukura | Lets have a “future of ML2” session Friday that’s a followup to the Wednesday architecture session, with an ML2 focus, and we can cover whatever we need | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | Yes, that sounds like a good idea - | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | we should add it to the etherpad - | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | so that people will know | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | we can cover things like generalizing distributed bindings, enforcing binding semantics, MDs and EDs for other resources, ... | 16:25 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | yup - even visibility into the network segments for HPB can be covered in there | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | I entered a start on the etherpad | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran is not here, but, he added couple of items on the agenda | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : cool - thanks | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | feel free to add to or improve it | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | I will look at it off-line after the meeting and update, if needed | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1567792 | 16:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1567792 in openstack-manuals "Mitaka Configuration Reference Nework section is missing ML2 parameters" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sharat Sharma (sharat-sharma) | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran has been busy updating the documentation - this is related to that | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | I have nothing more to add to this - unless you have any comment on this | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | scheuran provided an update on the agenda - feel free to review it | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | Here is the link to the ML discussion - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092073.html | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092073.html | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | feel free to jump on the ML to join the discussion | 16:35 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: didn’t see that - will read in detail | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : he is referring to your old patches - you should definately review it | 16:36 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else we want to cover? | 16:36 |
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| yamamoto | nothing from me | 16:37 |
| rkukura | me either | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | OK - cool, we are done then | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks | 16:38 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:38 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 16:38 |
| yamahata | bye | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 13 16:38:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-04-13-16.12.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-04-13-16.12.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-04-13-16.12.log.html | 16:38 |
| rkukura | bye | 16:38 |
| yamamoto | bye | 16:38 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 13 16:59:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 16:59 |
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| pglass | o/ | 16:59 |
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| sonuk_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| james_li | james li | 17:00 |
| rsyed | o/ | 17:00 |
| mugsie | timsim: elarson Kiall ekarlso ping | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | o/ | 17:00 |
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| mugsie | OK, we should get started :) | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | there was none :) | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | I think timsim is afk | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | so, no bugs to triage | 17:03 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/493969/ | 17:03 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:03 |
| Kiall | 2 weeks of BPs to eyeball, as usual, take a few mins and nominate anything in need of backporting | 17:04 |
| Kiall | timsim: you're late ;) | 17:04 |
| rsyed | 5104e6e Merge "Give proper ERROR for too large exports" ? | 17:04 |
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| timsim | :P | 17:04 |
| Kiall | 979b67d Partitoner references invalid exception class <-- Already done I think | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | (ignore the first 2 - those are my WIP's ;)) | 17:05 |
| Kiall | 909cc5d Handle async Tooz calls appropriately | 17:05 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:05 |
| mugsie | ab1639c Give better error messages for zone imports | 17:05 |
| mugsie | I need to look at teh 2 Error ones to make sure we dont violate the stable backport rules | 17:06 |
| rsyed | ah | 17:06 |
| mugsie | but those 3 look like candidates | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Any others we need to handle? | 17:06 |
| pglass | yeah, i don't know what we're allowed to backport or not | 17:06 |
| pglass | w.r.t stability | 17:06 |
| mugsie | only bugs, and no api changes | 17:06 |
| timsim | I think the first one would be good, second one "makes things better" so probably not. | 17:07 |
| Kiall | well - if the bug is an API explodes rather than shows an error - that's a candiate IMO | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#appropriate-fixes | 17:07 |
| timsim | 5104e6e Merge "Give proper ERROR for too large exports" just makes it not stay in PENDING forever | 17:07 |
| timsim | ab1639c Give better error messages for zone imports - gives better error messages than "an undefined error occured" | 17:08 |
| mugsie | OK. I will ask about those 2 and do them if they are allowed | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | #action mugsie investiagte if 5104e6e and ab1639c are acceptable | 17:09 |
| elarson | o/ | 17:09 |
| mugsie | who wants to backport ab1639c ? | 17:09 |
| Kiall | you just #action'd yourself ;) | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | bah | 17:09 |
| mugsie | 909cc5d | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | I can do it.. you checked into the new lib issue already, so should be a simple cherry pick | 17:10 |
| mugsie | grand | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | #action Kiall backport 909cc5d | 17:10 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | so, the agenda is now live for the summiyt | 17:10 |
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| elarson | ah cool | 17:11 |
| * elarson checks when he workshop is | 17:11 | |
| timsim | woo | 17:11 |
| mugsie | and, if the webapp would work I would link to it | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Designate%3A | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Cool | 17:11 |
| Kiall | App wont load for me tho ;) | 17:12 |
| mugsie | this does not bode well | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | any other topics? | 17:12 |
| Kiall | Tempest plugin stuff | 17:12 |
| mugsie | Kiall: sure - go for it | 17:12 |
| Kiall | So - there are new experimental jobs running the new plugin the "right way" - they don't run the old tests at all | 17:12 |
| Kiall | http://logs.openstack.org/04/305104/4/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-designate-powerdns/72feace/ is example output | 17:13 |
| Kiall | logs/testr_results.html.gz - is likely the most interesting770098 | 17:13 |
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| elarson | Kiall: is that the experimental bit you've been commenting on in CRs? | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | for now, you can run with a "check experimental" comment.. But as it gets to a point where there are more tests moved in it, we'll want to make it run for everything | 17:13 |
| Kiall | and finally, when all tests are moved - remove the old jobs. | 17:14 |
| Kiall | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-tempest-plugin-migration has a list of the main areas in the old tests | 17:14 |
| Kiall | and if there's a name beside it, it's because someone is activly working to port the tests. | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | Some docs @ http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/tempest.html | 17:15 |
| Kiall | elarson: yes, that's exactly what it is | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | Anyway, consider it a heads up as you'll notice things changing over the week or two - any if anyone wants to help get tests moved, go for it :) | 17:15 |
| Kiall | Any questions? | 17:16 |
| elarson | sounds good! | 17:16 |
| mugsie | why haven't you ported it all alrieady? :P | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Been working through the framework pieces ;) | 17:16 |
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| pglass | i was actually waiting to work on those because i thought Kiall might have done it all already | 17:17 |
| Kiall | sonuk_'s got some reviews up for a few groups of tests :) | 17:17 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:17 |
| mugsie | oh - the OpenStack User Survey is out - http://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April-2016-User-Survey-Report.pdf | 17:17 |
| Kiall | Also - docs are being updated - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305144/ | 17:17 |
| Kiall | That contains some important info around where tests should land and what should be tested etc | 17:18 |
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| Kiall | So - Read after that lands and is published ;) | 17:18 |
| elarson | someone might have mentioned this already but is the dev guide updated with the pools.yml info? | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | kinda | 17:19 |
| mugsie | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/upgrade/mitaka.html | 17:19 |
| mugsie | and | 17:19 |
| mugsie | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/pools.html | 17:19 |
| Kiall | docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/pools.html and the backends section includes details | 17:19 |
| * elarson might try to update that when going through the workshop install this afternon | 17:20 | |
| elarson | afternoon | 17:20 |
| mugsie | elarson: please do :) | 17:20 |
| rsyed | i've found it very useful so far, been messing with multiple pools and the pool_id_attribute filter (eventually i'd be interested in use of the attribute filter) | 17:20 |
| mugsie | rsyed: yeah, I need to write that | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | OK, does anyone have anything else? | 17:22 |
| Kiall | Not from me | 17:22 |
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| timsim | Aww jeeze mugsie we'e got to build the packer image from the austin branch, yeah? | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | lol (facefalm-gif-here) | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | facepalm* | 17:23 |
| mugsie | timsim: yeah. but that needs you and elarson to upload your bits :) | 17:23 |
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| * timsim just spent 30 minutes building from master like a doof | 17:23 | |
| mugsie | also, delete the old box | 17:23 |
| timsim | good thing it's lunchtime | 17:23 |
| timsim | yeah | 17:23 |
| mugsie | OK then | 17:24 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 13 17:24:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-04-13-16.59.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-04-13-16.59.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-04-13-16.59.log.html | 17:24 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 13 18:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 18:00 |
| pmackinn_ | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:01 |
| amrith | hello folks | 18:01 |
| pmalik_ | ☺/ | 18:01 |
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| tosky | o/ | 18:01 |
| abramley | o/ | 18:01 |
| mvandijk | ./ | 18:01 |
| johnma | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | johnma told me that she wouldn't be able to make it to the meeting | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | and yet here she is :) | 18:02 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:02 |
| johnma | i am here though :) | 18:02 |
| amrith | i know | 18:02 |
| johnma | just for the meeting | 18:02 |
| amrith | cool, thanks johnma | 18:02 |
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| amrith | let's get started. | 18:02 |
| dloi | o/ | 18:02 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:02 |
| amrith | meeting agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| amrith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| amrith | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:02 |
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| amrith | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:03 |
| amrith | I'll let everyone look at the graph and collect their thoughts | 18:03 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:03 |
| haypo | _o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | we have had a significant drop in the number of reviews | 18:03 |
| amrith | and the queue has grown a bit | 18:03 |
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| amrith | the only reason it didn't grow more is likely because we abandoned a bunch of changes | 18:04 |
| schang | o/ | 18:04 |
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| amrith | but we've got to pick up the pace on reviews; especially of the specs which we are considering for newton | 18:04 |
| amrith | otherwise there's a very real possibility that we'll get closer to the N-1 deadline and have a rush of code and specs | 18:04 |
| amrith | so, I'm going to request everyone to take some time and catch up on reviewing the code and specs taht are out there. | 18:05 |
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| amrith | if you have code that has a number of comments, please either push up a new change set, or indicate when you plan to. | 18:05 |
| amrith | anyone have anything else to add? | 18:06 |
| dougshelley66 | It would definitely be helpful to get the pace of review back to where is was in mitaka | 18:06 |
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| dougshelley66 | i think there are some "low hanging fruit" reviews that we can get thru | 18:06 |
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| dougshelley66 | but definitely getting specs reviewed before N-1 is important | 18:07 |
| haypo | amrith: another option is to recruit new core reviewer in most active contributors ;) (i'm not interested to become a core, it's just a suggestion) | 18:07 |
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| amrith | haypo, we need reviews | 18:07 |
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| amrith | I think monikers like core are a different thing altogether | 18:07 |
| amrith | or are you suggesting that making someone a core reviewer somehow increases the number of reviews they do? | 18:07 |
| amrith | we have 6 core reviewers. | 18:07 |
| amrith | five of who are here at this meeting | 18:08 |
| pmackinn | amrith, is workflow same between spec and bug for +2? | 18:08 |
| amrith | yes pmackinn | 18:08 |
| amrith | do others have thoughts, suggestions? | 18:09 |
| amrith | SlickNik, peterstac, johnma, vkmc | 18:09 |
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| pmalik_ | Maybe we should put top 10 list back. It did seem to make difference... | 18:09 |
| amrith | good idea | 18:10 |
| pmackinn | so # of reviews per item leads to more focus/+2? | 18:10 |
| johnma | amrith, I certainly like the idea of having a list of reviews that we are focusing on - like we did in Mitaka | 18:10 |
| pmackinn | in theory? | 18:10 |
| amrith | a couple of good thoughts there | 18:10 |
| amrith | a focus on specific reviews | 18:10 |
| amrith | putting back the list of top reviewers | 18:10 |
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| amrith | pmackinn, I think an active discussion about a topic will lead to more people reviewing, and +2's, I think. | 18:11 |
| vkmc | yeah, agree that having a focus could help | 18:11 |
| amrith | any other thoughts? | 18:12 |
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| vkmc | other than that... I've seen in some projects that the number of reviews decrease weeks after the summit | 18:12 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 18:13 |
| vkmc | I think this happened in Trove in the past too | 18:13 |
| amrith | so, here's a list I've been using | 18:14 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/%28project:openstack/trove+OR+project:openstack/trove-integration+OR+project:openstack/trove-specs+OR+project:openstack/trove-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/python-troveclient%29+AND+status:open+AND+branch:master+and+is:mergeable | 18:14 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/%28project:openstack/trove+OR+project:openstack/trove-integration+OR+project:openstack/trove-specs+OR+project:openstack/trove-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/python-troveclient%29+AND+status:open+AND+branch:master+and+is:mergeable | 18:14 |
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| amrith | there are several changes that I think we should be able to quickly approve | 18:15 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/304316 | 18:15 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/286317 | 18:15 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/221480 | 18:15 |
| amrith | there are specs that we need to get agreement on quickly | 18:15 |
| amrith | lie | 18:15 |
| amrith | like | 18:15 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/294213 | 18:15 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/302416 | 18:16 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/295274 | 18:16 |
| amrith | there are the changes for python3 | 18:16 |
| amrith | now, when you say "focus", what are you looking for? | 18:16 |
| amrith | a 'starred' list? | 18:16 |
| amrith | a dashboard? | 18:16 |
| amrith | an email from time to time? | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | I wonder if something like having some known set time for code reviews (every week) where we can help drive focus will be helpful? Something like code-review office hours? | 18:17 |
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| johnma | a dashboard is what I was thinking and I know flavio was working on something along that line | 18:18 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I'm open to the idea and would like to give it a shot. | 18:19 |
| johnma | that is also a good idea SlickNik. | 18:19 |
| amrith | is there a specific time that we could set aside for this? | 18:19 |
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| dougshelley66 | SlickNik time scheduling multiple timezones is usually tricky | 18:19 |
| peterstac | If we put the 'top 10' list back, then by definition it'll become Tuesday afternoon ;) | 18:20 |
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| SlickNik | dougshelley66: agreed — maybe doesn't need to be a time when everyone is available. | 18:20 |
| dougshelley66 | Slicknik how about 9am ET? :) | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | Maybe have a web-page for example I can publish what time I'll be doing reviews (weekly). | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | and others can do the same. | 18:21 |
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| johnma | Maybe we could have 2 different days/times a week and people could join either times | 18:22 |
| amrith | ok, let's give that a shot | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | Not 100% sure — just brainstorming ideas :) | 18:22 |
| amrith | #action Amrith to add back the top-10 list | 18:22 |
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| amrith | #action [amrith] figure out a way to communicate priority for reviews | 18:22 |
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| johnma | top-10 list for what? just curious | 18:23 |
| amrith | #action [all] think more about the idea of review timings and see if we can get some way to move that forward. | 18:23 |
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| amrith | johnma, there used to be a time when we published who the top-10 reviewers were | 18:23 |
| amrith | like: <name> <n-reviews> | 18:23 |
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| johnma | oh ok, I remember that. we stopped doing that for some reason, not sure | 18:24 |
| amrith | and Heisenburg's theory of management said ... | 18:24 |
| amrith | ok, we have a couple of action items | 18:24 |
| amrith | if others have thoughts, let's keep talking on #openstack-trove | 18:24 |
| amrith | anyone else have anything else, let's move along | 18:25 |
| amrith | #topic Announcements | 18:25 |
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| amrith | python-troveclient v2.2.0 has been released and is now on pypi. For newton, g-r and u-c have been set to v2.2.0 | 18:25 |
| amrith | just wanted to pass that word along to all. | 18:25 |
| amrith | For newton, we'll be using at least 2.2.0 for the client | 18:26 |
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| amrith | currently we're enforcing upper-constraints.txt so it'll 2.2.0 for now | 18:26 |
| amrith | anyone have questions about this? | 18:26 |
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| amrith | ok, moving along | 18:27 |
| amrith | #topic Proposals for review | 18:27 |
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| amrith | I have two proposals that I'd like to put to the meeting and discuss today | 18:27 |
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| amrith | I propose that changes from the proposal bot (requirements, translations) can be approved on master by a single +2 | 18:27 |
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| amrith | I believe that these are (at this point) purely procedural | 18:28 |
| dougshelley66 | +1 makes sense to me | 18:28 |
| pmalik | +1 | 18:28 |
| amrith | and some of them have been hanging out for a while | 18:28 |
| johnma | +1, I agree | 18:28 |
| amrith | so, I'd like to put this to a vote ... but before I do that, I'd like to know if anyone objects. | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | ++ | 18:28 |
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| amrith | hearing no objections ... | 18:29 |
| peterstac | +1, but I don't think the bot reviews was ever much of a problem ... | 18:29 |
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| amrith | #agreed that changes from the proposal bot (requirements, translations) can be approved on master by a single +2 | 18:29 |
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| amrith | Ok, on to the next one. | 18:29 |
| amrith | I propose that we approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304030/ | 18:29 |
| amrith | This change would make python34 a gating job | 18:29 |
| tosky | does it require a vote? Wasn't it part of the spec, which was approved time ago? | 18:30 |
| haypo | +1 it's part the (approved) python3 blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/trove-python3 ;) | 18:30 |
| haypo | tosky: i would also prefer to avoid having meetings and use the regular reviews on gerrit ;) | 18:31 |
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| SlickNik | +1 on the python34 gating job | 18:31 |
| amrith | does anyone object to this change being merged? | 18:31 |
| haypo | but i understood that amrith wanted to "warn" all dev that py3 is serisouly becoming "mandatory" for new changes | 18:31 |
| amrith | at this time ... | 18:32 |
| dougshelley66 | sounds like the right thing to do - guess we just need reviews on the project-config change | 18:32 |
| amrith | I'm sure we have to do python3 before long | 18:32 |
| haypo | amrith: i'm available for any question specific to python3 ;) | 18:32 |
| amrith | but ... I wanted to make sure everyone knew and we had a chance to discuss and decide it quickly. | 18:32 |
| haypo | i mean, if some dev start to have py3 questions for new changes | 18:32 |
| amrith | haypo, tosky decisions in a review can take much longer (if there is contention) | 18:32 |
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| peterstac | right now, only specific tests are run in the job, so the risks are low | 18:33 |
| amrith | ok, hearing no objectons | 18:33 |
| pmalik | +1 | 18:33 |
| cp16net | i made it | 18:33 |
| johnma | +1 | 18:33 |
| amrith | #agreed that we agree to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304030/ | 18:33 |
| vkmc | +1 | 18:33 |
| haypo | i just removed the WIP status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304030/ -- go there to put your +1 ;-) andreas already voted +2 | 18:33 |
| amrith | haypo, done | 18:34 |
| amrith | #topic Clearing up the review backlog | 18:34 |
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| haypo | amrith: thx ;) | 18:34 |
| amrith | we started talking about this already (earlier) | 18:34 |
| amrith | and now we have some action items that I'll follow up on | 18:35 |
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| peterstac | I think the reno addition to troveclient is good to go | 18:37 |
| peterstac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301894/ | 18:37 |
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| pmackinn | oops | 18:40 |
| tosky | netsplit :/ | 18:40 |
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| dougshelley66 | i think we lost our PTL... | 18:40 |
| tellesnobrega | indeed | 18:41 |
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| vkmc | seems so | 18:41 |
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| dougshelley66 | amrith is telling me what to type... | 18:41 |
| pmackinn | you puppet | 18:42 |
| dougshelley66 | anyone have any project updates? | 18:42 |
| vkmc | do not let the netsplit affect our meeting | 18:42 |
| dougshelley66 | pmackinn but i'm a really good puppet | 18:42 |
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| pmackinn | dougshelley66, no doubt! | 18:42 |
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| peterstac | dougshelley66, either he needs to speak faster or you need to type faster ... ;) | 18:43 |
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| pmackinn | SlickNik, any thoughts on those SuperConductor notes? am i way off base? | 18:43 |
| dougshelley66 | well, i'm waiting for project updates | 18:43 |
| johnma | :) | 18:43 |
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| pmackinn | dougshelley66, image builder spec at patch set 6; assume it will land in top 10 list | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | pmackinn: I had a chance to look over it — it seems pretty on point. I had a couple of minor notes that I'm in the process of writing up, will send it to you. | 18:44 |
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| dougshelley66 | pmackinn thx | 18:44 |
| amrith | #topic Ongoing review of projects. | 18:44 |
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| amrith | I'm back | 18:44 |
| dougshelley66 | HE'S BACK! | 18:44 |
| amrith | ok ... | 18:44 |
| pmackinn | dammit | 18:44 |
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| amrith | so I should add superconductor to the list | 18:44 |
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| amrith | #action [amrith] add superconductor to the list | 18:44 |
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| amrith | pmackinn, you have notes? | 18:44 |
| amrith | great ... | 18:44 |
| amrith | let's chat | 18:44 |
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| amrith | any word on trove image build? | 18:44 |
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| dougshelley66 | <pmackinn>dougshelley66, image builder spec at patch set 6; assume it will land in top 10 list | 18:45 |
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| haypo | for the "Port crypto_utils to Python 3" review, i suggest to wait until the 2 other python 3 changes are merged, and peterstac gives its feedback ;) | 18:45 |
| pmackinn | amrith, just level setting with SlickNik on SC; he has some pending notes | 18:45 |
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| amrith | ok, anything new on CEPH? tellesnobrega is that still a project you'll be working on or should we strike it? | 18:46 |
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| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256057/ | 18:46 |
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| dougshelley66 | I believe there is a BP/Spec for image upgrade now - the agenda can be updated | 18:46 |
| amrith | vkmc, is sonali going to do the couchdb stuff or is she gone? | 18:46 |
| tellesnobrega | amrith, nothing new on that now, but im still working on it | 18:46 |
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| vkmc | amrith, she is gone, I'll be taking where she left | 18:46 |
| amrith | tellesnobrega, working on it <which>? CEPH or cinder snapshot? | 18:46 |
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| amrith | thanks vkmc | 18:47 |
| vkmc | np | 18:47 |
| tellesnobrega | amrith, im rushing to get cinder snapshot spec up this week, but I hope to get back to ceph soon, so we can discuss better in austin | 18:47 |
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| johnma | amrith, I am going to abandon the couchdb replication work for now. | 18:47 |
| amrith | johnma, ok. | 18:47 |
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| amrith | we have a number of other projects including locality for cluster, couchbase clusters, upgrade (which now has a spec), postgresql replication and incr b&r, volume-type and datastore association, multi-region support and so on | 18:48 |
| amrith | could everyone please take a look at these specs as a priority | 18:48 |
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| amrith | and make sure that you provide feedback tat you have as soon as possible and before summit | 18:48 |
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| amrith | so the conversations at summit can reflect that feedback. | 18:48 |
| vkmc | +1 | 18:49 |
| amrith | I will include a list of specs in the email that follows this meeting | 18:49 |
| amrith | #action amrith include list of reviews in meeting notes email | 18:49 |
| amrith | any other updates on projects ... | 18:49 |
| tellesnobrega | +1 | 18:49 |
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| amrith | #topic Summit planning | 18:50 |
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| amrith | session list is now at http://bit.ly/trove-newton-design-summit | 18:50 |
| amrith | #link http://bit.ly/trove-newton-design-summit | 18:50 |
| amrith | please mark your calendars and update etherpads for sessions that you are leading | 18:50 |
| amrith | SlickNik, amrith, dougshelley66 https://www.google.com/url?q=https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-newton-summit-management-client&sa=D&ust=1460577036050000&usg=AFQjCNEbK_j9z1PYj5PovQ6EukcxNY_czg | 18:51 |
| amrith | sorry, bad link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-newton-summit-management-client | 18:51 |
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| haypo | oh, i expected that we would discuss each "Ongoing review". anyway, my two python 3 patches are waiting for your review ;) https://review.openstack.org/279119 & https://review.openstack.org/298952 but there is no urgency ;) | 18:51 |
| amrith | haypo, go ahead | 18:51 |
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| amrith | haypo, I'll look at those two reviews but it is also important that others in the trove team review them. | 18:52 |
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| amrith | anyone have anything to add about summit sessions ... | 18:53 |
| haypo | amrith: i don't have anything to say about my changes, just review them ;) (if you have questions, ask them directly on the reviews) | 18:53 |
| haypo | amrith: you asked me to talk about python3, but i don't see exactly what do you expect | 18:53 |
| haypo | amrith: the plan is quite simple. pick an unit test, port it to py3, send a patch, wait for the review, then move to the next test ;) | 18:53 |
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| amrith | haypo, nothing specific now. at summit, I have the notes from Abhishek that I'll share with the team ahead of time | 18:54 |
| haypo | amrith: do you have a specific question? the status is also quite simple: a few unit tests pass, we are at the beginning of the port (i would say a random 20%) | 18:54 |
| amrith | there's nothing more that I'd expect in an update, just that if people have questions they'd know how to get in touch with you. | 18:54 |
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| haypo | amrith: ok, nice | 18:54 |
| amrith | to be clear haypo ... python3 is a little different from the other projects. | 18:54 |
| amrith | I think it is on a very clear path. | 18:55 |
| amrith | and if people have questions they know to get in touch with you. | 18:55 |
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| haypo | ok, cool | 18:55 |
| amrith | that's all I had for the meeting today | 18:55 |
| amrith | but I want to leave time for any other things that people may want to talk about | 18:56 |
| amrith | #topic open discussion | 18:56 |
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| amrith | anyone have anything to add? | 18:58 |
| amrith | going once ... | 18:58 |
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| amrith | going twice ... | 18:59 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 13 18:59:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| amrith | thanks everyone | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-04-13-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-04-13-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-04-13-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
| vkmc | thanks! | 18:59 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 18:59 |
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| johnsom_ | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
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| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| bharathm | o/ | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 13 20:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
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| johnsom_ | Hi there | 20:00 |
| johnsom_ | I guess I'm _ for the meeting | 20:00 |
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| fnaval | o/ | 20:00 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 20:01 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:01 |
| johnsom_ | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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| crc32|znc | I'm gonna wfh for the reset of the night. Later | 20:01 |
| crc32|znc | oops wrong channel | 20:01 |
| johnsom_ | The only announcement I have this week is the bandit gate is working now | 20:01 |
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| johnsom_ | It is still non-voting, but we can refer to it for security issues found in the patchset. | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy folks! | 20:02 |
| blogan | hello | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, that's great! | 20:02 |
| johnsom_ | Welcome back sbalukoff | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks, johnsom_! | 20:02 |
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| blogan | i sensed a darkness coming to these lands | 20:02 |
| johnsom_ | Any other announcements? | 20:02 |
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| blogan | i should have known sbalukoff would be back | 20:02 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: Muahaha! | 20:03 |
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| blogan | yowzers | 20:03 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 20:03 |
| johnsom_ | Ouch, well, good to know I'm not the only haven't IRC issues today | 20:03 |
| johnsom_ | Thus the _ | 20:03 |
| johnsom_ | #topic Docu-geddon | 20:03 |
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| johnsom_ | Still looking for folks to adopt documentation bugs: | 20:04 |
| johnsom_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=docs | 20:04 |
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| fnaval | net split | 20:04 |
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| johnsom_ | I need to poke the oslo folks to get a taskflow release so I can merge the flow docs | 20:04 |
| johnsom_ | Yeah, hmmm | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | I should hopefully be able to tackle one or two of those docs bugs this week. | 20:05 |
| johnsom_ | Nice! | 20:05 |
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| xgerman | we should mention the design session | 20:05 |
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| johnsom_ | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:05 |
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| sbalukoff | (FWIW, I'm back, but I picked up some nasty tropical disease in Myanmar and have essentially been floored with fatigue in the days since returning.) | 20:05 |
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| bana_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286365/ | 20:06 |
| xgerman | irc cloud is failing me badly today | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | I also plan on putting together something for an L7 demo during the talk (ie. the doc link you sent in e-mail, johnsom) in the next week. | 20:06 |
| xgerman | irc cloud is failing me badly today | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | Otherwise, I've no progress to report, alas. | 20:06 |
| johnsom_ | sbalukoff Ok great, I was going to ask about that later | 20:06 |
| xgerman | yeah, in and out as well | 20:06 |
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| bana_k | I will be on vacation for next 25 days, I was hoping to close that one if its possible asap | 20:06 |
| blogan | 25 days! | 20:07 |
| johnsom_ | As xgerman mentioned, there are design sessions for neutron: | 20:07 |
| johnsom_ | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | bana_k: I'll have a look. | 20:07 |
| johnsom_ | The first one is for aaS | 20:07 |
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| blogan | there's just the one for *aas right? | 20:07 |
| bana_k | blogan: yes sir ! | 20:07 |
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| fnaval | <-- working on more neutron-lbaas tests. review requested for TLS Barbican Scneario Test (has 2 +1's already): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164828 | 20:07 |
| bana_k | sbalukoff : thank you. | 20:08 |
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| fnaval | wrote this bug up yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1569536 | 20:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1569536 in neutron "Neutron-LBaaS v2: Unable to remove SSL/TLS Barbican container reference on listener" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:08 |
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| johnsom_ | We might have interest in the neutron client session as well | 20:08 |
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| blogan | doesn't it not have a future :) | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | That was my hope. :) | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Open | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | openstack CLI from Newton on out, eh? | 20:09 |
| johnsom_ | I have been working on a bug fix that moves haproxy into a network namespace: | 20:09 |
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| johnsom_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300292/ | 20:09 |
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| johnsom_ | Could use some reviews. I would like to get that merged and backport to Mitaka so we can cut a bug fix Mitaka release | 20:09 |
| johnsom_ | Yeah, openstack client is probably in our future | 20:10 |
| xgerman | who knows — there is a ton of contoversy | 20:10 |
| dougw2 | does osc have dynamic extensions? | 20:10 |
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| johnsom_ | It does have something of a sort I think | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom_: That's awesome. | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | The haproxy in namespace thing. | 20:11 |
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| johnsom_ | Don't quote me on that as I have been trying to not pay attention to it | 20:11 |
| johnsom_ | Ok, any other progress updates? | 20:12 |
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| johnsom_ | #topic Open Discussion | 20:12 |
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| johnsom_ | Great to hear you can work on L7 demo sbalukoff. I think we will have L7 and horizon dashboard demos | 20:13 |
| johnsom_ | I still need to work on my slides | 20:13 |
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| sbalukoff | As of next Wednesday (assuming I'm not hospitalized and quarantined as patient zero for the next disease to sweep America), Dustin and I will be road-tripping on motorcycles to the Austin summit. | 20:13 |
| fnaval | heh | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | as such, I'll probably not be at next week's meeting and will be reachable in the evenings when we're in motels. | 20:13 |
| TrevorV | Awesome sbalukoff !! | 20:13 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:13 |
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| johnsom_ | Ah, nice. So, please upload the demo video before you go... Just in case | 20:14 |
| TrevorV | (sorry I'm late :D ) | 20:14 |
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| johnsom_ | grin | 20:14 |
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| sbalukoff | (results from tests on that patient zero stuff should be in later this week. I'm hoping it was just some really, really bad shrimp that I ate.) | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Other than the shellfish, I highly recommend a trip to Myanmar. | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | It was *awesome* | 20:15 |
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| johnsom_ | Ok, any other topics this week? | 20:15 |
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| johnsom_ | If anyone is still in the channel | 20:15 |
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| sbalukoff | Heh! Yeah, IRC network is having a bad time of it today. | 20:16 |
| TrevorV | johnsom_ I'm working out *one* kink I found in the neutron lbaas single create | 20:16 |
| johnsom_ | Ok | 20:16 |
| TrevorV | Then its not WIP | 20:16 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257201 | 20:16 |
| TrevorV | So I'll need some reviews on it o_0 | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Sounds good! | 20:17 |
| johnsom_ | I'm also looking into a bug where it looks like neutron is returning a 500 when a member create call comes in during PENDING_UPDATE | 20:17 |
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| sbalukoff | Aaah-- instead of a 409. | 20:17 |
| johnsom_ | Right | 20:17 |
| TrevorV | That's okay, right? I mean, no one tries to do that anyway... right? | 20:17 |
| xgerman | I am working on the lab session: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AqmF3BnKLLu1W1n-XT5MSfVYrGue1JIwKSvjbWgGA6s/edit?usp=sharing | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:17 |
| TrevorV | RIGHT? No? Okay, I'll sit down... | 20:17 |
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| johnsom_ | TrevorV We tell them it's pending update, what more do they need right? Picky about 500 vs. 409.... grin | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: that's great! | 20:18 |
| xgerman | yeah, need to figure out how pools and l7 work now | 20:19 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: I'm happy to respond to questions about that if you have any, eh! | 20:19 |
| xgerman | thanks — might have some | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | I also plan on being at the lab as well, of course. | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | So I can answer from people in the audience who ask. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | ok, I kept you on the front slide :-) | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:20 |
| johnsom_ | Oh, one more thing I should note. It was discovered that FIP to Octavia VIP with DVR enabled doesn't work. | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | I will try really hard not to talk over johnsom. As tempting as that always is. | 20:21 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: D'oh. So, we have to figure out why not. :/ | 20:21 |
| johnsom_ | Ha, thanks | 20:21 |
| johnsom_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1569918 | 20:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1569918 in neutron "Allowed_address_pair fixed_ip configured with FloatingIP after getting associated with a VM port does not work with DVR routers" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 20:21 |
| johnsom_ | Summary, DVR doesn't work right with allowed address pairs | 20:21 |
| dougw2 | you had me at "DVR". | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! Ok, so not "our" problem per se. | 20:22 |
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| sbalukoff | Even though it totally affects us. | 20:22 |
| johnsom_ | Right, any neutron port using allowed address pairs. | 20:22 |
| johnsom_ | So, yeah, now you know. Disabling DVR resolves the issue. | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Or not using FIPs? | 20:23 |
| johnsom_ | That would work too | 20:23 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:23 |
| xgerman | there is some patch | 20:23 |
| * sbalukoff hates FIPs, precious. | 20:23 | |
| xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304905/ | 20:23 |
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| sbalukoff | tricksy FIPs. | 20:24 |
| xgerman | not sure if that will make it work or not | 20:24 |
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| johnsom_ | Ok, any other topics? | 20:24 |
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| johnsom_ | If not we can let sbalukoff go rest | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks, y'all! | 20:24 |
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| johnsom_ | #endmeeting | 20:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 13 20:25:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-04-13-20.00.html | 20:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-04-13-20.00.txt | 20:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-04-13-20.00.log.html | 20:25 |
| fnaval | thanks! | 20:26 |
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