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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS Folks | 00:00 |
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| Sarath | hi Sridar | 00:00 |
| chandanc | Hello all | 00:00 |
| yushiro | Hi, SridarK | 00:00 |
| s3wong | hello | 00:00 |
| njohnsto_ | o/ | 00:00 |
| mickeys | Hi | 00:00 |
| hoangcx | hi o/ | 00:00 |
| padkrish | hello | 00:00 |
| SridarK | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 00:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 00:01 |
| SridarK | #chair xgerman | 00:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK xgerman | 00:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 00:01 |
| SridarK | thx all for joining and lets get started. | 00:01 |
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| SridarK | #topic FWaaS current state | 00:02 |
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| SridarK | Some updates from the last few days | 00:02 |
| SridarK | With the merge of #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223343/ in neutron - FWaaS is broken. What initially seemed like something that could be fixed within the scope of FWaaS - does not seem so. | 00:02 |
| njohnsto_ | sadly | 00:03 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: , mfranc213 , padkrish and i have been triaging this to get an understanding of what is needed | 00:03 |
| SridarK | Essentially the FWaaS Agent which resided in L3Agent - now is out. There were plans to have the ability for L3Agent to load Service Agents in a clean manner and some work is needed on this. | 00:04 |
| SridarK | We have raised this with the L3 team and thanks Nate for capturing the issue in: | 00:04 |
| SridarK | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1580239 | 00:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1580239 in neutron "[RFE] Add agent extension framework for L3 agent" [Wishlist,New] | 00:05 |
| SridarK | We hope to have a discussion in the L3 team meeting tomorrow | 00:05 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: thx again for getting this filed | 00:05 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:06 |
| njohnsto_ | I have started on a draft spec (unpublished) but I don't feel like enough of the details are known to intelligently describe a proposed solution. | 00:06 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: that is fair - hopefully some discussion with the L3 folks will help get the details flushed out | 00:06 |
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| njohnsto_ | SridarK: that is my hope | 00:07 |
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| SridarK | Unfortunately, until we have some resolution - we really cannot have anything merge in FWaaS | 00:08 |
| xgerman | :-( | 00:09 |
| njohnsto_ | Completely stuck. | 00:09 |
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| SridarK | and we dont see some easy way to solve this in FWaaS | 00:09 |
| njohnsto_ | For my part, I have the L3 extension as top priority, but if that is blocked I will work on doing any fleshing out of the DB model. | 00:10 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: +1 | 00:10 |
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| SridarK | that is kind of where things stand - we hope to get some resolution and a way fwd soon | 00:11 |
| SridarK | any other thoughts or suggestions ? | 00:12 |
| s3wong | SridarK: oh well... nothing much else we can actually do | 00:12 |
| SridarK | s3wong: yes | 00:12 |
| njohnsto_ | Does this mean we will be in a separate process like Octavia or code loaded into L3 like QoS is in L2? | 00:13 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: i will join u in the L3 mtg and will certainly help in any way possible | 00:13 |
| njohnsto_ | SridarK: very much appreciated | 00:14 |
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| SridarK | njohnsto_: if we are a separate process then we may need the appropriate hooks | 00:14 |
| SridarK | clearly the inheritance model that was present was not desirable | 00:14 |
| njohnsto_ | indeed | 00:14 |
| xgerman | njohnsto_ I assume we will be a plugin. dougwig has said that this should work for projects not in the neutron repo | 00:15 |
| njohnsto_ | I can see why they wanted to get that inheritance model deleted | 00:15 |
| SridarK | but either an option to load service agents or something else along those lines should be the model | 00:15 |
| s3wong | njo | 00:15 |
| SridarK | xgerman: +1 that will enable other projects to let their agents reside in the context of L3Agent | 00:16 |
| s3wong | njohnsto_: I agreed. Sucks for us, but I do think it is cleaner on l3agent perspective | 00:16 |
| SridarK | the inheritance model existed as there was no other option | 00:17 |
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| SridarK | and oddly fwaas and vpnaas went in slightly different directions too | 00:17 |
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| SridarK | definitely a cleaner model is needed | 00:17 |
| njohnsto_ | After the L3 meeting we can confer with the LBaaS team and the VPNaaS team (if there is such a thing) to get their buy-in/help. | 00:17 |
| xgerman | yeah, LBaaS doesn’t use L3 | 00:18 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: if i am not mistaken LBaaS has no such dependency | 00:18 |
| xgerman | they do everything over the API | 00:18 |
| SridarK | xgerman: +1 | 00:18 |
| njohnsto_ | OK | 00:18 |
| SridarK | Lets hope for a good discussion tomorrow | 00:18 |
| SridarK | I am not sure if reverting the patch will even be considered | 00:19 |
| mickeys | It won't be considered | 00:19 |
| s3wong | I doubt it | 00:19 |
| njohnsto_ | I agree, I think we are past the point of no return | 00:19 |
| SridarK | so if there is a quick solution that will get us going that is our only hope | 00:20 |
| SridarK | i feel so too | 00:20 |
| njohnsto_ | At least we can demonstrate momentum, commitment, and contribution to the greater Neutron community. | 00:21 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: +1 | 00:21 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:21 |
| SridarK | and this is an enabler | 00:21 |
| SridarK | for such service models | 00:21 |
| njohnsto_ | Yes | 00:22 |
| SridarK | Ok lets quickly hit other topics | 00:22 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS v2 | 00:22 |
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| SridarK | so while this issue gets sorted - we can try to get some momentum on our patchsets - we may need to get creative on how we test things out | 00:23 |
| mickeys | L2! | 00:24 |
| SridarK | at least with the EXT - Db - Plugin can move fwd | 00:24 |
| SridarK | and mickeys: yes L2 for sure | 00:24 |
| s3wong | SridarK: wouldn't our CI reject all the patches (or we don't have func-test)? | 00:24 |
| SridarK | s3wong: yes that is the problem | 00:24 |
| SridarK | we can keep working them | 00:24 |
| SridarK | in an ideal situation - if the situation with L3 gets resoloved - we will atleast have some work done to get merges to happen | 00:25 |
| SridarK | at a later point | 00:25 |
| njohnsto_ | We can also prep a patch to fix all the neutron_lib deprecation notices | 00:25 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: true | 00:26 |
| SridarK | but i think we need to have some basic functionality w.r.t v2 done as well | 00:26 |
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| njohnsto_ | yes | 00:27 |
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| njohnsto_ | So since we know we will not be inheriting from L3NATAgent can we set up a new ancestor stub to inherit from, and unwed get unit tests? | 00:29 |
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| njohnsto_ | s/unwed/unwedge/ | 00:30 |
| xgerman | makes sense | 00:31 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: for UT yes we could do some thing not sure on functional tests - i have not looked at that recently - i know madhu_ak and others were moving things there | 00:31 |
| SridarK | so we may still have an issue on merge, but njohnsto_: good thought | 00:32 |
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| xgerman | madhu_ak is likely off the project | 00:32 |
| SridarK | xgerman: ok | 00:33 |
| SridarK | mickeys: u were talking abt a patch needed in neutron to clean up things around iptables for multiple features | 00:33 |
| mickeys | Yes. I have not started that yet. | 00:34 |
| SridarK | mickeys: ok | 00:34 |
| mickeys | I think if you run with security groups disabled you could do something without it. Otherwise the change will be needed | 00:34 |
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| xgerman | that might be a good way to start | 00:35 |
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| SridarK | mickeys: ok and we should be targetting this anyways for the v2 effort | 00:36 |
| njohnsto_ | So did madhu_ak have changes that were in-progress that someone needs to pick up? | 00:36 |
| mickeys | SridarK: Yes it is necessary for the v2 effort | 00:37 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: he was cleaning up things around the functional tests - will need to double check | 00:37 |
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| SridarK | njohnsto_: i will reach out to him | 00:38 |
| njohnsto_ | SridarK: thanks | 00:39 |
| SridarK | We can atleast get things lined up on areas that need attention | 00:39 |
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| SridarK | that will be goodness anyways | 00:39 |
| SridarK | even if merging is an issue | 00:39 |
| SridarK | now | 00:39 |
| xgerman | SridarK let me know if you can’t get through to him - I have a more direct channel :-) | 00:39 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: ok thx will appreciate ur help | 00:40 |
| SridarK | Anything else to discuss on v2 ? | 00:40 |
| SridarK | For the new contributors feel free to reach out to folks for any help needed | 00:41 |
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| padkrish | SridarK: sure, will be reaching out to xgerman soon | 00:42 |
| SridarK | padkrish: great | 00:42 |
| chandanc | Sure will do | 00:42 |
| SridarK | chandanc: ok | 00:42 |
| SridarK | #topic Meeting time | 00:42 |
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| SridarK | I think we have had some inputs on the meeting time that is favorable to all | 00:43 |
| SridarK | chandanc: Sarath: What would be the earliest time that would be reasonable to u guys | 00:44 |
| SridarK | so we can make it easy on njohnsto_ and mfranc213 on the US Eastern | 00:44 |
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| SridarK | we can also continue the discussion on the email thread | 00:44 |
| chandanc | 9:30 India is good time for me | 00:44 |
| Sarath | yes | 00:45 |
| chandanc | but is it Ok for other people too | 00:45 |
| SridarK | That would be 11pm Eastern | 00:45 |
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| njohnsto_ | 9:30am New Delhi time? That is fine with me | 00:46 |
| s3wong | SridarK: no problem with me | 00:46 |
| njohnsto_ | So am I right, that would be 0400 UTC? | 00:47 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:47 |
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| xgerman | it say 9 pm pacific for me | 00:47 |
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| chandanc | njohnsto: yes | 00:48 |
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| njohnsto_ | Excellent | 00:48 |
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| SridarK | ok we can close out on the email and we can update | 00:48 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 00:48 |
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| chandanc | Thanks everyone | 00:49 |
| yushiro | chandanc, NP | 00:49 |
| njohnsto_ | I can be backup meeting chair for SridarK, to provide a second so you don't have to xgerman | 00:49 |
| xgerman | thanks, appreciated | 00:49 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: sounds good thx | 00:50 |
| chandanc | njohnsto_: Can you send us your draft spec ? or may be after the meeting with L3 team | 00:50 |
| njohnsto_ | After the L3 meeting, I will get it into a better form and send it. | 00:51 |
| chandanc | sure | 00:51 |
| njohnsto_ | And then we can hopefully get more feedback in the neutron-drivers meeting. | 00:51 |
| SridarK | njohnsto_: +1 | 00:52 |
| njohnsto_ | #action njohnston to send spec after L3 meeting | 00:52 |
| yushiro | padkrish, hi. I'd like to share about current status for FWaaS v2 l2-agent. | 00:52 |
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| padkrish | yushiro# sure | 00:52 |
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| yushiro | padkrish, OK, thanks. I've just come back from holidays. I'll send e-mail to you. | 00:54 |
| padkrish | yushiro# sure, pls do..will sync up | 00:54 |
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| SridarK | padkrish: yushiro: thx | 00:54 |
| SridarK | Anything else anyone would like to bring up ? | 00:55 |
| njohnsto_ | I am good | 00:55 |
| xgerman | +1 | 00:55 |
| s3wong | all good | 00:56 |
| SridarK | ok then folks have a good rest of the week. Thx for joining | 00:56 |
| chandanc | +1 | 00:56 |
| Sarath | Thanks | 00:56 |
| s3wong | Thanks | 00:56 |
| SridarK | #endmeeting | 00:56 |
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| yushiro | Thanks | 00:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 00:56:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-05-12-00.01.html | 00:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-05-12-00.01.txt | 00:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-05-12-00.01.log.html | 00:56 |
| xgerman | o/ | 00:56 |
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| dirk | toabctl, dirk, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jruzicka: ping .. meeting starts in a few min | 12:53 |
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| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 13:01:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:01 |
| toabctl | hi | 13:01 |
| dirk | hey | 13:02 |
| IgorYozhikov | hi there :) | 13:02 |
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| dirk | please add your agenda items to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:02 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:02 |
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| mivanov | hi folks | 13:02 |
| dirk | mivanov: wb | 13:03 |
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| dirk | number80: ping? | 13:05 |
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| dirk | #topic AIs from Summit - should we start working on infra based builder & publisher scripts?(IgorYozhikov) | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AIs from Summit - should we start working on infra based builder & publisher scripts?(IgorYozhikov) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:07 | |
| IgorYozhikov | yes, just want to clarify further steps | 13:07 |
| dirk | makes sense | 13:07 |
| IgorYozhikov | are we going to start work on this? | 13:08 |
| dirk | my personal goal was to look into it after packaging-deb has solved it mostly | 13:08 |
| dirk | paul berranger volunteered to help us in getting the same steps done after they have the workflow working for packaging-deb | 13:08 |
| IgorYozhikov | as I remember - 1st prerequisite is image made by DIB | 13:08 |
| dirk | I haven't seen an update on this | 13:08 |
| dirk | is it already done? | 13:08 |
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| IgorYozhikov | As I know zigo is still working on jobs | 13:09 |
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| dirk | have any pointers? | 13:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | 1 moment | 13:09 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: well for suse we could potentially have this running on a ubuntu vm so the DIB image is not a mandatory requirement | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, sounds good | 13:10 |
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| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311190/ | 13:11 |
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| dirk | if the whole publishing workflow as explained by mordred in the work session works then we can indeed start working on moving our building upstream | 13:11 |
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| IgorYozhikov | and I believe this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307742/ | 13:12 |
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| dirk | ok | 13:13 |
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| dirk | any questions about it? | 13:13 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: do you want to work on this ? | 13:14 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, I think that I can try to work on this with zigo because he has some exp here | 13:15 |
| dirk | sounds good | 13:16 |
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| dirk | we don't have the package building job yet, so publishing is I guess the step after that | 13:16 |
| dirk | first step for me would be to have a job that can actually build a package (with proper repos available and proper result) | 13:16 |
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| dirk | thats the part I guess we can work on while deb-packaging figures out the rest of the details | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | agree | 13:17 |
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| IgorYozhikov | builder 1st | 13:17 |
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| dirk | I guess we should invite paul maybe and understand how we can work on this (maybe start an etherpad) | 13:18 |
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| dirk | at least I"m pretty lost on this | 13:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | good point | 13:19 |
| dirk | wanna take the action item? | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | create etherpad with steps and fill it up with clarifications | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'll take it AI | 13:20 |
| IgorYozhikov | s/it/this/ | 13:20 |
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| dirk | #action IgorYozhikov create etherpad with steps and fill it up with clarifications for building rpm packages as part of PR testing | 13:21 |
| dirk | #topic Spec-Cleaner - install path | 13:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Spec-Cleaner - install path (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:21 | |
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| IgorYozhikov | is it possible to use default sitelib? | 13:22 |
| IgorYozhikov | without patching? | 13:22 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://github.com/openSUSE/spec-cleaner/blob/master/setup.py#L35 | 13:22 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: this is how we build it https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Tools/spec-cleaner/spec-cleaner.spec?expand=1 | 13:23 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: uuhh, that doesn't look good indeed | 13:23 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: I suggest to send a PR :) | 13:23 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, I'm asking because of 12:16:42 error: could not create '/usr/lib/obs': Permission denied | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://packaging-ci.fuel-infra.org/job/master-rpm-packaging-build/128/console | 13:24 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: yeah, do you see the super fancy sed statement in the spec file ? :-( | 13:24 |
| dirk | thats how to fix it.. | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes, I saw | 13:25 |
| dirk | toabctl: wanna help IgorYozhikov on cleaning this spec file up? | 13:25 |
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| IgorYozhikov | in our case spec-cleaner installed as python requirement | 13:26 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: lets take it as an action item to clean this up.. | 13:26 |
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| toabctl | hm. need to check what's wrong. but PRs upstream are usually reviewed quickly. | 13:27 |
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| dirk | toabctl: will you have some time for that until next week? | 13:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | I can package spec-cleaner in our downstream while waiting for fix | 13:27 |
| dirk | ok | 13:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | with proper path & so on.... | 13:28 |
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| dirk | ok to move on? | 13:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | yep | 13:28 |
| dirk | #topic Update http://www.toabctl.de/openstack/rpm-packaging-status.html to newton | 13:29 |
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| dirk | if I understand things correctly, we're still tracking mitaka there because we do not have the merging of master with newton implemented in the tool | 13:29 |
| dirk | just wanted to point out that doug was doing a lot of initial releases lately for newton | 13:29 |
| dirk | so we could have a useful release section already now imho | 13:29 |
| dirk | toabctl: can we create a separate page for tracking newton? | 13:30 |
| toabctl | dirk: sure | 13:30 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, for master branch we already use G-R from master | 13:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | so packages built from latest commits has newton code | 13:31 |
| toabctl | I'll try todo that until next week (but I'm a couple of days off next week) | 13:31 |
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| dirk | toabctl: thanks! | 13:31 |
| dirk | #action toabctl create status page for newton release tracking | 13:31 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: right.. master git should track newton.. I was merely missing the status page | 13:32 |
| dirk | any last topics? | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, got it | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, can we just try to predict amount of projects done in a month? | 13:33 |
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| IgorYozhikov | all oslo 4 example? | 13:33 |
| dirk | main thing right now is lacking review | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | and how often do review to speed up | 13:33 |
| dirk | s | 13:33 |
| dirk | I saw that the python*client proposal become buildable meanwhile | 13:34 |
| dirk | so we should try to get them merged | 13:34 |
| toabctl | I would like to have the spec-cleaner stuff merged first. to get a clean state for the new specs. | 13:34 |
| dirk | toabctl: what is it stalled on right now? | 13:34 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, agree | 13:34 |
| dirk | I saw that things are failing but I didn't look into the failure | 13:34 |
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| toabctl | dirk: diffutils needs to be installed on the hosts. I already added a other-requirements.txt file for bindep but without success. I'm currently looking into that. | 13:35 |
| IgorYozhikov | so, fix 4 spec-cleaner and rebuild py*clients in master | 13:35 |
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| dirk | toabctl: ping aj or ask on #infra.. this can probably be fixed somehow.. | 13:35 |
| dirk | toabctl: thanks | 13:36 |
| dirk | let me know if its something that I can help with :) | 13:36 |
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| dirk | can we end the meeting? next week same time same place? | 13:37 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'm fine | 13:37 |
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| dirk | ok thanks all ttyl | 13:37 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 13:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 13:37:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-05-12-13.01.html | 13:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-05-12-13.01.txt | 13:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-05-12-13.01.log.html | 13:37 |
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| ddieterly | #startmeeting freezer | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 14:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ddieterly. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:00 |
| ddieterly | #topic attendance | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "attendance (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:00 | |
| ddieterly | o/ | 14:00 |
| yangyapeng | :) | 14:00 |
| saggi | hi | 14:00 |
| slashme | Hi ddieterly | 14:00 |
| ddieterly | bonjour! | 14:01 |
| ddieterly | ok, hopefully others will trickle in | 14:01 |
| ddieterly | let's get to it | 14:01 |
| ddieterly | #topic specs repo | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs repo (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:02 | |
| ddieterly | what is that? | 14:02 |
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| ddieterly | whatever it is, it will be finished by eod | 14:03 |
| zhangjn | :0 | 14:03 |
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| slashme | We have a freezer-specs repo | 14:04 |
| slashme | That should be used from now on to store the specs | 14:04 |
| slashme | It needs to be initialized which is what I'm doing atm | 14:04 |
| ddieterly | what is involved in initialization? | 14:05 |
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| slashme | The readme will contain information about the workflow to follow (specs, blueprint, approval, ...) | 14:05 |
| ddieterly | oh, so you are adding content to it | 14:05 |
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| slashme | Initialization is writing the readme/doc + create the file hierarchy | 14:06 |
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| daemontool | o/ | 14:07 |
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| thatsdone | o/ | 14:07 |
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| daemontool | is there the Freezer meeting going on here? | 14:08 |
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| slashme | daemontool: yes | 14:09 |
| ddieterly | ok, so slashme is adding a napoleonic twist to the freezer-spec repo by regimenting it | 14:09 |
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| ddieterly | daemontool supposedly | 14:09 |
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| slashme | We forgot to say that the agenda for the meeting is available here as usual : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:10 |
| slashme | Feel free to add any topic you want to discuss | 14:10 |
| ddieterly | slashme thanks | 14:10 |
| ddieterly | what do we want to discuss about the freezer-specs repo? | 14:10 |
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| daemontool | we need to move the dr bp there after the specs repo setup | 14:12 |
| ddieterly | nothing? | 14:12 |
| ddieterly | can we move to the next topic then? | 14:12 |
| slashme | Nothing right now. Just wanted to point out that when it'll ve ready, this will be the way to go to submit specs | 14:12 |
| daemontool | sounds good for me | 14:12 |
| ddieterly | how does that affect blueprints? | 14:13 |
| daemontool | the bp cannot be approved | 14:13 |
| daemontool | right now | 14:13 |
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| daemontool | that does not mean the implementation cannot be done | 14:13 |
| daemontool | but the bp needs to be there | 14:13 |
| ddieterly | so, the spec is the same thing as the bp? | 14:13 |
| daemontool | the specs repo is where the project bp are placed | 14:14 |
| ddieterly | just under review process? | 14:14 |
| ddieterly | ok | 14:14 |
| daemontool | ddieterly, nope | 14:14 |
| slashme | ddieterly: I'll point you to the workflow as soon as it is finished | 14:14 |
| ddieterly | is that the way other projects do it? | 14:14 |
| daemontool | so check the freezer-specs repo layout | 14:14 |
| slashme | That will be simpler | 14:14 |
| daemontool | and check the nova-specs layout | 14:14 |
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| daemontool | we have to do that | 14:14 |
| daemontool | that's what we are referring to | 14:14 |
| slashme | ddieterly: That's how most project procede, you can check the nova-specs repo | 14:14 |
| ddieterly | ok | 14:15 |
| thatsdone | FYI: https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs | 14:15 |
| ddieterly | yep, looking now... | 14:15 |
| ddieterly | beautiful | 14:16 |
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| daemontool | thatsdone, nice name :) | 14:16 |
| ddieterly | beau | 14:16 |
| ddieterly | bello | 14:16 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:16 |
| daemontool | next? | 14:16 |
| ddieterly | #topic freezer DR | 14:16 |
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| ddieterly | where is the repo? | 14:17 |
| szaher | Repo is created and available here https://github.com/openstack/freezer-dr | 14:17 |
| daemontool | that is a great achievement | 14:17 |
| daemontool | :) | 14:17 |
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| daemontool | we need to get approved this in governance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314288/ | 14:17 |
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| szaher | we have only one issue right now the code was written based on kilo release so we need to check with liberty and mitaka or at least mitaka | 14:17 |
| daemontool | then add the diagrams form the austin preso to the repo | 14:18 |
| daemontool | szaher, good, we need to tag it then | 14:18 |
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| daemontool | not a bad thing, as it works from kilo onwards | 14:18 |
| daemontool | but I don-t think we can branch now | 14:18 |
| ddieterly | the gate jobs need to be added | 14:18 |
| daemontool | slashme, ? | 14:18 |
| daemontool | ddieterly, yes | 14:18 |
| daemontool | ddieterly, they should be added | 14:19 |
| daemontool | if you are referring to the governance repo | 14:19 |
| szaher | we need to think about it | 14:19 |
| slashme | daemontool: yes ? | 14:19 |
| daemontool | slashme, about tagging dr repo | 14:19 |
| daemontool | for kilo, liberty, mitaka | 14:19 |
| daemontool | I don't think we can branch now | 14:19 |
| daemontool | but definetely we can tag | 14:19 |
| szaher | as we need to have at least two compute nodes in our devstack deployment | 14:20 |
| daemontool | ddieterly, ah yes, the dsvm gate job is disabled there oyu are right | 14:20 |
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| ddieterly | did we get a lot of support for this project from the community? | 14:21 |
| ddieterly | i heard 2 people voice concerns that this was out of scope | 14:21 |
| daemontool | ddieterly, from HP? | 14:21 |
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| ddieterly | dan dyer and there were 2 others in the dev meetup before slashme arrived | 14:21 |
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| daemontool | ok | 14:22 |
| ddieterly | the 2 others were from different companies | 14:22 |
| daemontool | I've heard 2 people too | 14:22 |
| daemontool | from different companies | 14:22 |
| daemontool | saying that | 14:22 |
| daemontool | than I discovered they wanted to upstream their own new project in openstack | 14:22 |
| daemontool | to do that | 14:22 |
| ddieterly | lol | 14:22 |
| daemontool | :) | 14:22 |
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| ddieterly | well, on the face of it, it does seem to go far afield of freezer's core mission | 14:23 |
| ddieterly | wanders into monitoring and recovery/mitigation | 14:23 |
| daemontool | well if you look at the mission in governance, we are there https://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/freezer.html | 14:23 |
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| daemontool | so | 14:24 |
| ddieterly | i think we would do better to focus on making recovery simpler | 14:24 |
| daemontool | I agree | 14:24 |
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| ddieterly | that's what i heard at the conference | 14:24 |
| ddieterly | ymmv | 14:24 |
| daemontool | in my opinion, if we want to split it at some point | 14:24 |
| daemontool | I'm OK | 14:24 |
| daemontool | and I agree on the recovery also | 14:24 |
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| ddieterly | ok | 14:25 |
| slashme | I agree with all of that | 14:25 |
| daemontool | I agree on giving higher priority to abckup and restore though | 14:25 |
| slashme | daemontool: +1 | 14:25 |
| szaher | daemontool: +1 | 14:25 |
| daemontool | that's definetely our main focus at least for now | 14:25 |
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| daemontool | but let's see if others are interested on contributing | 14:26 |
| ddieterly | sure, sounds like a plan | 14:26 |
| zhangjn | +1 | 14:26 |
| ddieterly | anything else on that topic? | 14:26 |
| daemontool | glad we all agree :) | 14:26 |
| slashme | :) | 14:26 |
| ddieterly | oh, i wish i could give fausto a big hug right now | 14:26 |
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| thatsdone | +1 | 14:26 |
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| daemontool | ddieterly, everytime I try to hug you in person you do not want that | 14:27 |
| daemontool | haha | 14:27 |
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| ddieterly | it takes a while for americans to get used to physical contact | 14:27 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:27 |
| ddieterly | we have a large personal space | 14:27 |
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| ddieterly | i'll have to come to italy and get immersed in all the touching | 14:28 |
| daemontool | haha | 14:28 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:28 |
| ddieterly | ok, anything else on dr? | 14:28 |
| daemontool | next? | 14:28 |
| zhangjn | what's the next? | 14:28 |
| ddieterly | #topic ceph isssues | 14:28 |
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| zhangjn | what's issue? | 14:29 |
| ddieterly | good question, glad you asked | 14:29 |
| ddieterly | who put that topic on the agenda? | 14:29 |
| daemontool | I thing there was someone | 14:29 |
| yangyapeng | ping Silviu | 14:29 |
| daemontool | askign the IRC channel | 14:29 |
| daemontool | about a problem related to that | 14:30 |
| daemontool | don-t know | 14:30 |
| daemontool | let-s go next and we can come back to this later? | 14:30 |
| daemontool | slashme, maybe knows about it? | 14:30 |
| yangyapeng | SIlviu meet a problem | 14:31 |
| ddieterly | ok, next topic | 14:31 |
| slashme | Yes, Silviu had a problem | 14:31 |
| ddieterly | #topic PyPI | 14:31 |
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| slashme | We should implement something similar to https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=openstack/horizon.git;a=commitdiff;h=8201d65cf983f9c995dd653953ad1719f6df8459 | 14:32 |
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| ddieterly | #topic PyPI | 14:32 |
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| slashme | In order to manage content lenght when doing swift upload | 14:33 |
| daemontool | slashme, ok yes | 14:33 |
| slashme | For the PyPI topic, | 14:33 |
| daemontool | reldan, are you interested on doing that? or anyone else? | 14:33 |
| slashme | We need to update our package in pypi | 14:33 |
| daemontool | slashme, where you thinking about someone? | 14:33 |
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| slashme | I noticed that most of them are outdated | 14:33 |
| slashme | daemontool: This is a pretty low hanging fruit | 14:34 |
| daemontool | shouldn't be that update automatically by the bot? | 14:34 |
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| daemontool | slashme, yes ok | 14:34 |
| slashme | Anyone that has acces to a ceph cluster can fix this | 14:34 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:34 |
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| reldan | daemontool: I’m doing it right now | 14:36 |
| reldan | yes | 14:36 |
| daemontool | we can ask to Infra | 14:36 |
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| daemontool | about why the pypi packages are not updated | 14:36 |
| daemontool | anymore | 14:36 |
| yangyapeng | slashme: we have a ceph cluster ,but it also in the performance test | 14:36 |
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| slashme | It shouldn't affect performance at all | 14:36 |
| slashme | And it shouldn't cause any bug on the ceph side | 14:37 |
| daemontool | well probably yangyapeng needs to ask permission and all that | 14:37 |
| slashme | Do you have a RadosGw ? | 14:37 |
| daemontool | as that ceph instance is already used by another team | 14:37 |
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| ddieterly | process check, we need to move along | 14:38 |
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| zhangjn | we have not install radosgw. | 14:38 |
| yangyapeng | the ceph cluster also used by another team. we can test it in next scrum. . | 14:38 |
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| ddieterly | can we move to next topic? | 14:39 |
| zhangjn | What's worry with ceph? | 14:39 |
| slashme | Okay. You need the radosgw in order to emulate the swift api if you want to use ceph with freezer. | 14:39 |
| slashme | We should be able to find a ceph cluster here to test the patch. | 14:40 |
| slashme | ddieterly: okay, next topic | 14:40 |
| yangyapeng | next | 14:40 |
| zhangjn | I got it, I will think about this Scenario. | 14:40 |
| ddieterly | #topic nova, cinder backup to local/ssh issues | 14:40 |
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| ddieterly | szaher you have the floor | 14:40 |
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| yangyapeng | about backup nova and swift to local. | 14:41 |
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| yangyapeng | In the process of actual backup, there is no swift, but more NFS, etc. | 14:41 |
| ddieterly | is szaher in the mtg today? | 14:41 |
| yangyapeng | so, we have more need to backup it | 14:41 |
| szaher | There is a patchset from yangyapeng that can do the backup but we won't be able to restore it as we didn't store the metadata | 14:41 |
| szaher | ddieterly: Yes I am here :) | 14:42 |
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| ddieterly | szaher yay! | 14:42 |
| yangyapeng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315085/ | 14:42 |
| zhangjn | how to store metadata? | 14:42 |
| zhangjn | database or file? | 14:42 |
| szaher | There is a patchset on freezer-metadata done by reldan I reviewed it with him to store the metadata with the backup file so we can restore everything according to this metadata file | 14:43 |
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| szaher | the metadata patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314209/ we need to review it by today as we need it urgently for another patchsets | 14:43 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: This patchset we won't be able to restore the backup files https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315547/ ! as we don't have any metadata info available | 14:44 |
| szaher | ddieterly: We need to merge the metadata patchset first then me and reldan are going to work on building cinder engine and nova engines | 14:45 |
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| ddieterly | ok | 14:45 |
| szaher | so we will have tar engine for fs related backups, cinder engine for OS cinder and nova for OS nova backups | 14:45 |
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| yangyapeng | this patch I have a backup about instance._info, we restore backupfile use it ,it is ok ? | 14:45 |
| szaher | Also daemontools is working or rsync engine | 14:45 |
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| ddieterly | so, is everybody who needs to going to do the reviews? | 14:47 |
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| yangyapeng | I have a json to store it in uuid-meta. Although this is so humble 。 | 14:47 |
| szaher | everyone is welcome to review the patchset | 14:47 |
| yangyapeng | thank you | 14:48 |
| ddieterly | suound like you want it approved | 14:48 |
| ddieterly | so, core members need to jump on it | 14:48 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: we have blueprints so if you want you can work on some of them, the metadata one is here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/freezer-metadata | 14:48 |
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| ddieterly | next topic? | 14:48 |
| szaher | ddieterly: core and non core are more than welcomed :) we need more eyes | 14:48 |
| ddieterly | szaher of course | 14:49 |
| ddieterly | #topic tripleO bp | 14:49 |
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| ddieterly | who owns that one? | 14:49 |
| ddieterly | who is asking for that? | 14:50 |
| ddieterly | why is it on the agenda? | 14:50 |
| yangyapeng | This is anonymous ？ | 14:50 |
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| ddieterly | (i'll keep asking questions until somebody responsds ;-) ) | 14:51 |
| daemontool | I added it | 14:51 |
| slashme | I guess this is daemontool | 14:51 |
| daemontool | sorry one sec | 14:51 |
| ddieterly | ah ha! | 14:51 |
| daemontool | someone come to by desk | 14:51 |
| yangyapeng | 哈哈 | 14:51 |
| yangyapeng | haha | 14:51 |
| daemontool | I'll give update | 14:51 |
| daemontool | to the freezer channel | 14:51 |
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| daemontool | basically we need to support | 14:51 |
| daemontool | rh osp | 14:52 |
| daemontool | or that kind | 14:52 |
| daemontool | of os distributions | 14:52 |
| daemontool | that uses tripleo | 14:52 |
| daemontool | and ironic | 14:52 |
| thatsdone | Ah, that's why tripleo ? (OSP7 now uses tripleo) | 14:52 |
| ddieterly | is this something that errickson is asking for? | 14:52 |
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| daemontool | ddieterly, nope | 14:53 |
| daemontool | ericsson uses Fuel | 14:53 |
| daemontool | mirantis | 14:53 |
| daemontool | that was requested | 14:54 |
| daemontool | by users that use RH in their productino environment | 14:54 |
| ddieterly | ok | 14:55 |
| ddieterly | daemontool are you going to write the bp? | 14:55 |
| daemontool | I should yes | 14:55 |
| daemontool | also I have RH OSP available here | 14:55 |
| ddieterly | excellent | 14:55 |
| daemontool | slashme, do you have the | 14:55 |
| daemontool | contacts of that guy | 14:55 |
| daemontool | Radoslaw if I remembe rwell | 14:55 |
| daemontool | he had the ideas quite clear | 14:55 |
| daemontool | he could write it | 14:55 |
| daemontool | I can do it in case | 14:56 |
| slashme | Let me check | 14:56 |
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| ddieterly | while he's off checking, how about the bp for dedup? | 14:57 |
| ddieterly | daemontool you planning on writing that too? | 14:57 |
| daemontool | I think | 14:57 |
| daemontool | Fabrizio could probably write that | 14:57 |
| zhangjn | first bp in freezer-spec | 14:57 |
| zhangjn | :) | 14:58 |
| daemontool | zhangjn, :) | 14:58 |
| ddieterly | which fabrizio? | 14:58 |
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| daemontool | Fresco | 14:58 |
| ddieterly | 2 mins remainaing | 14:58 |
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| ddieterly | #topic pending reviews | 14:59 |
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| ddieterly | please take a look at the reviews in the agenda and review if possible | 14:59 |
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| daemontool | ok | 14:59 |
| ddieterly | this one is particularly easy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315250/ | 14:59 |
| ddieterly | ok, out of time | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | thanks everybody who participated | 15:00 |
| daemontool | thanks ddieterly | 15:00 |
| slashme | thank you ddieterly | 15:00 |
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| zhangjn | Time is always short, :) | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | can continue discussion in freezer room | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | ciao! | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 15:00:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| szaher | Thank you ddieterly | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-05-12-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-05-12-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-05-12-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 15:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| dgonzalez | hi | 15:01 |
| markstur_ | hi | 15:01 |
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| dustins | \o | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:02 |
| jseiler__ | hi | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | courtesy ping: cknight | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | #topic Driver private storage | 15:02 |
| cknight | :-) Hi. Thanks, Ben. | 15:02 |
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| xyang3 | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | xyang1 and xyang3? | 15:03 |
| xyang3 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315346/ | 15:03 |
| bswartz | which one is real? | 15:03 |
| xyang3 | both real:) | 15:03 |
| xyang3 | it is easier to type here on the computer | 15:03 |
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| xyang3 | so I added an admin api to retrieve driver private storage | 15:04 |
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| * bswartz reads the review | 15:04 | |
| xyang3 | Valeriy suggests to use cinder-manage instead | 15:04 |
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| vponomaryov | manila-manage | 15:04 |
| xyang3 | sorry:) | 15:04 |
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| xyang3 | I'm asking question on cinder channel on why we have both cinder-manage delete volume and cinder force-delete | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | okay so we're okay with the read-only admin-only API, but don't want it in the client? | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | or vponomaryov are you against even having a REST API? | 15:05 |
| xyang3 | seems the one in cinder-manage was left over from nova days and no one work on it any more | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | we have other admin-only commands in python-manilaclient | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I don't see a reason to have API with all its whistles and bells | 15:06 |
| xyang3 | I mention this only because I think it is relevant to take that into consideration when make decisions | 15:06 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: manila-manage should be enough for admin's debug | 15:06 |
| cknight | What is the use case for reading driver private storage via the API? | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | IIRC when we discussed this before it was a debugging use case | 15:07 |
| bswartz | could be used for writing of better functional tests | 15:07 |
| bswartz | but only for driver-specific functional tests | 15:07 |
| cknight | It last came up during the snapshot-manage work to enable Tempest coverage. We found a better approach then. | 15:07 |
| xyang3 | cknight: so an admin wants to check that info in a resource before doing something drastic like force-delete or unmanage | 15:07 |
| bswartz | right -- snapshot manage is not the use case | 15:07 |
| xyang3 | yes not for manage | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | (for all "provider-location" for used for "snapshot-manage" API) | 15:08 |
| bswartz | the only things in the driver private data should be driver specific -- anything expected to be common for all drivers should go elsewhere | 15:08 |
| xyang3 | but admin wants to find out more for a resource before get rid of it | 15:08 |
| bswartz | for example I know NetApp has netapp-specific tempest tests which are not upstream | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | those tests might benefit from an API like this | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | but I think the use case we should primarily consider is an admin debug interface | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | in that case vponomaryov has a good point that it could be done via manila-manage | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | xyang3: what is your feeling about using manila-manage instead? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | personally I'm okay with the proposal for an API | 15:11 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: so my initial reaction was manila-manage usually deal with whole backend things not resource specific | 15:12 |
| xyang3 | but valeriy pointed out cinder-manage delete volume | 15:12 |
| xyang3 | that is why I started asking why cinder has both:) | 15:12 |
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| xyang3 | turns out it is redundant to have both | 15:12 |
| bswartz | well does cinder-manage or manila-manage send any RPCs or just hack the DB? | 15:12 |
| xyang3 | just db, I think | 15:13 |
| bswartz | because the moment you actually want to DO something on a backend, the share manager should be involved, and you need RPCs | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it depends, could be both | 15:13 |
| bswartz | if we're just reading what's in the DB then it seems pretty simple to use manila-manage | 15:13 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: cinder-manage volume delete deletes from DB then sends RPC cast | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | yes but it looks like cinder will get rid of that feature | 15:14 |
| bswartz | because they prefer cinderclient force delete | 15:14 |
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| vponomaryov | API requires identity involvement | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | it is redundant | 15:15 |
| bswartz | if we ever want a GUI version of the feature API involvement is required | 15:15 |
| xyang3 | jgriffith said some distro does not include cinder-manage | 15:15 |
| bswartz | for now it seems we're okay with CLI-only | 15:15 |
| bswartz | xyang3: how do those distros do schema upgrades? | 15:16 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz; excellent question )) | 15:16 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: I don't know | 15:16 |
| * bswartz is suspicious of that statement | 15:16 | |
| bswartz | I'd like to know which distro doesn't include it and what they do instead | 15:17 |
| xyang3 | anyone here knows how distro package things? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | anyways, it seems like we're leaning toward manila-manage here | 15:17 |
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| vponomaryov | any objections from anyone? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | can we move on? | 15:17 |
| xyang3 | no problem as long as we are on the same page | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | okay back to backlog of topics from design summit | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #topic Py3 functional tests | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Py3 functional tests (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:18 | |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: this is one of yours | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-manila-contributor-meetup | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/enable-python-3-int-func-tests.html | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181165/ | 15:18 |
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| vponomaryov | for the moment we run tempest tests using py2.7 | 15:19 |
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| vponomaryov | and it is right time consider py3 | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | for running our functional tests | 15:19 |
| bswartz | any chance it will "just work" if we turn it on? | 15:19 |
| bswartz | or are there known issues at this time? | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | could be requried some fixes to core tempest | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | does anyone else do this yet? | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: don't have such info yet | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | question is mainly about are we interested in it? | 15:20 |
| bswartz | being first could be painful, but also an opportunity to lead in the community | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | in general? | 15:20 |
| bswartz | I'm interested in it | 15:20 |
| bswartz | Python 3 is mature | 15:21 |
| bswartz | It's questionable how much longer Py2.X will be supported | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | just for information, Ubuntu 16.04 will have py3 as default | 15:21 |
| dustins | I think the pain will be worth it in the end | 15:22 |
| bswartz | yes and I'm not aware of any OSes which can't support py3 anymore | 15:22 |
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| dustins | especially with Python 3.X becoming default in Fedora and Ubuntu at least | 15:22 |
| bswartz | I think Py2 was required for some _very_ old versions of RHEL | 15:22 |
| toabctl | bswartz: py27 will EOL in 2020 | 15:23 |
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| dustins | toabctl: 2020 can't come soon enough :) | 15:23 |
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| vponomaryov | toabctl: what situation with py3 for SUSE? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | so vponomaryov I think we should proceed with py3 functional tests and if we discover issues then we can talk about them | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: agree | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #topic UI Customization | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "UI Customization (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:24 | |
| bswartz | tbarron: this has your name on it | 15:24 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: py2 still the default | 15:24 |
| tbarron | hi, sorry, am doing 2 mtgs concurrently | 15:25 |
| bswartz | doh | 15:25 |
| bswartz | tbarron: should we postpone this topic? | 15:25 |
| tbarron | yes pls | 15:25 |
| bswartz | #topic Replication with share networks | 15:25 |
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| toabctl | vponomaryov: but py3 is there. not sure when to switch the default. | 15:25 |
| bswartz | this one is mine | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl: then it is ok, thanks | 15:26 |
| bswartz | when we designed share replication -- we intentionally limited the implementation to no-share-server drivers | 15:26 |
| bswartz | the reason is because our replication design allows shares to have replicas in different AZs, and because each share has exactly 1 share-network and each share-network has exactly 1 subnet | 15:27 |
| bswartz | to have replicas in different AZs you really need more than 1 subnet | 15:27 |
| bswartz | my proposal is to modify the share-network APIs to allow specifying a network per AZ | 15:28 |
| bswartz | this would allow multi-AZ configurations to work with share servers and replicated shares | 15:28 |
| bswartz | AFAIK that's the only thing blocking us from extending replication support to share-server drivers | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | so we'll need a spec for this, but I wanted to propose the idea in case anyone sees a problem with it | 15:29 |
| ganso | bswartz: the 2 AZs would be in the same share network, thus a share-network will allow multiple subnets, is that correct? | 15:30 |
| bswartz | ganso: that's my proposal | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | It would be gross to start allowing multiple share networks per share, because the share network also contains the security service which should NOT be different per-AZ | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | don't forget about standalone network plugin | 15:31 |
| ganso | bswartz: this change may interfere with how existing drivers have implemented DHSS=true | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: we will need to test that but I don't foresee any problems | 15:31 |
| cknight | bswartz: a share server will still be on just one subnet, right? | 15:32 |
| bswartz | all forms of flat-network plugins can be handled in the conf files | 15:32 |
| bswartz | cknight: yes that's my thinking | 15:32 |
| bswartz | subnets should not span AZs and neither should share servers | 15:32 |
| cknight | bswartz: OK, so no driver changes. This mirrors how neutron has multiple subnets per network. Seems fine to me. | 15:33 |
| bswartz | okay so look forward to a spec about this | 15:33 |
| bswartz | #topic Service-check | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | ganso: this was your topic | 15:34 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: is the spec repo ready? | 15:34 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes | 15:34 |
| bswartz | xyang3: this needs to merge first https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312631/ | 15:34 |
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| xyang3 | ok | 15:34 |
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| ganso | so the current status is that the API "service-disable" only sets status of service to "disabled" in DB | 15:35 |
| ganso | the scheduler still works if disabled | 15:35 |
| ganso | if shares are already created, calls to backends still work if disabled | 15:35 |
| xyang3 | bswartz: do you think the driver private storage thing needs a spec or you are fine without it? | 15:35 |
| ganso | I have 3 ideas on addressing this | 15:35 |
| bswartz | xyang3: we haven't discussed requiring specs -- the repo exists but I'm not in favor of forcing people to use it if they don't want to | 15:36 |
| xyang3 | ok | 15:36 |
| ganso | #1: communication between services is through RPCAPI. If rpcapi.py files check if service is running before making a call and returns an error, this partially solves the problem | 15:36 |
| ganso | except that the services are still running and using CPU resources (updating stats) | 15:36 |
| ganso | I am not sure if it is standard in openstack to prevent a service from running if it is considered to be disabled | 15:37 |
| bswartz | ganso: what is the purpose of disabling a service? | 15:37 |
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| ganso | bswartz: for any services besides backend services, I don't know | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz:the same as in cinder | 15:37 |
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| ganso | bswartz: I have only seen people disabling specific backends | 15:38 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: which is? | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: disable service from scheduling | 15:38 |
| bswartz | oh! | 15:38 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, but if shares are already created, they are already scheduled | 15:38 |
| bswartz | so you can effectively blacklist a whole backend in the scheduler by marking the service disabled? | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | yes | 15:39 |
| ganso | and if an user wants to allow_access to a share even though the service is disabled, it works | 15:39 |
| bswartz | but existing shares on that backend function as normal right? | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: manila is control plane, already created shares do not require service to run | 15:39 |
| bswartz | yes but I'm asking about snapshots, delete calls, access change calls | 15:39 |
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| ganso | if we say that the sole purpose of disabling a backend is to prevent scheduling, then there is no bug, and disabling scheduler and data service should do nothing at all | 15:39 |
| bswartz | those all ignore this "disabled" flag right? | 15:40 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, correct | 15:40 |
| bswartz | ganso: it seems the bug is that the terminology is unclear | 15:40 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, but depending on the correct definition, there may be a bug | 15:40 |
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| vponomaryov | then, we just should decide what do we expect from this feature | 15:40 |
| xyang3 | snapshots and delete don't go thru scheduler, so prevent scheduling won't include them? | 15:41 |
| ganso | xyang3: yes, disabling the backend will not block any snapshot or delete calls | 15:41 |
| xyang3 | ganso: ok, thanks | 15:41 |
| bswartz | rather than "disabled" it should be called "prevent new shares" or something | 15:41 |
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| xyang3 | bswartz: +1 | 15:41 |
| vponomaryov | api service, as well as scheduler should be able to be disabled, not load-balanced as well | 15:42 |
| ganso | ok so how do we properly define the correct terminology? should it be service-disable and completely disable a service, or should it just prevent scheduling to that service? | 15:42 |
| bswartz | ganso: does this answer your question? | 15:42 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: in a HA environment it makes sense | 15:43 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: but I believe that currently this is not being applied at all | 15:43 |
| bswartz | ganso: I think "service-disable" is confusing because that's not what the feature does, nor do I think we want it to do that | 15:43 |
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| ganso | bswartz: how about an HA environment? should just the service be killed by an admin? | 15:43 |
| bswartz | in a scenario with a load-balancer, you would need a way to control which api services are enabled, but that config would have to exist in the load-balancer, not in the manila DB | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: disable is not terminate | 15:44 |
| ganso | bswartz: I see | 15:44 |
| ganso | cinder uses the same terminology | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | ganso; because we didn't change that inherited )) | 15:45 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: yes | 15:45 |
| bswartz | I wonder if we inherited this code from the fork, or if it was added later | 15:45 |
| ganso | but it could be confusing to change | 15:45 |
| bswartz | ganso: I agree, but it's also confusing to not change it | 15:45 |
| bswartz | we should do the normal deprecation thing and fix it | 15:45 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | and probably also propose a similar fix for cinder | 15:46 |
| bswartz | okay is this topic wrapped up? | 15:46 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes | 15:46 |
| bswartz | #topic Container driver | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308930/ | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I just wanted people to know this is coming along | 15:47 |
| bswartz | LXD was backed out before the release of Mitaka, for reasons described on the ML | 15:47 |
| bswartz | this new driver replaces that one and our hope is to use it as the reference implementation of a share-server driver for development and testing | 15:48 |
| aovchinnikov | master | 15:48 |
| bswartz | it needs code reviews | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | not many people have looked at it or played with it yet | 15:49 |
| bswartz | right now it has problems at the networking layer | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | and also aovchinnikov when I try to run it my docker container just hangs | 15:49 |
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| tbarron | back | 15:50 |
| bswartz | anyways I want to raise awareness about this so we can avoid the late-in-the-release problems we had with LXD and distros | 15:50 |
| aovchinnikov | hm, that's strange | 15:50 |
| tbarron | it would be helpful to have devref for this, no? | 15:51 |
| bswartz | +1 | 15:51 |
| tbarron | also lvm | 15:51 |
| bswartz | yeah aovchinnikov it would be good to add a page to the devref explaining the theory of operation for this driver | 15:51 |
| tbarron | busy people who want to play without reverse-engineering the jobs in gate | 15:51 |
| bswartz | tbarron: on the plus side the driver is not that huge | 15:51 |
| tbarron | reduce startup cost to help | 15:52 |
| tbarron | bswartz: +1 | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | tbarron: true devs always do reengineering =) | 15:52 |
| bswartz | the whole driver including CI hook changes, devstack changes, code and unit tests weighs in at only 1500 lines | 15:52 |
| aovchinnikov | ok, sounds reasonable. I will provide one for docker driver | 15:52 |
| bswartz | of course after all the bugs are fixed it might get bigger | 15:53 |
| bswartz | I should mention that the current version is CIFS only and NFS will be added later | 15:53 |
| tbarron | vponomaryov: i agree that reverse-engineering may be the best way to learn, but there are many thiings to do and only so much time | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | there were some issues with ganesha-nfs, docker, and ubuntu | 15:53 |
| ganso | bswartz: any particular reason to implement CIFS before NFS? | 15:54 |
| aovchinnikov | bswartz: it still has the problem with connectivity | 15:54 |
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| aovchinnikov | ganso: samba is readily available on UBuntu | 15:54 |
| bswartz | aovchinnikov: I've started investigating the network issue but I'm blocked by the docker container hanging | 15:54 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: user-space nfs is required for it | 15:54 |
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| vponomaryov | ganso: and ganesha-nfs is not easy to make it work in containers | 15:55 |
| bswartz | nothing worth doing is easy | 15:55 |
| bswartz | we'll figure it out | 15:55 |
| aovchinnikov | i'd say setting up a container with ganesha-nfs is more time consuming | 15:55 |
| bswartz | okay I'd like to switch topics since tbarron is back | 15:55 |
| bswartz | #topic UI Customization | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: you're up again | 15:56 |
| bswartz | only 4 minutes though | 15:56 |
| tbarron | we may need to revisit next week when i can have sgotliv with me, it's holdiay in IL | 15:56 |
| bswartz | gah! | 15:56 |
| bswartz | #undo | 15:56 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0xa5b7050> | 15:56 |
| tbarron | we have a customer who doesn't run cifs | 15:56 |
| bswartz | #topic Open Discussion | 15:56 |
| tbarron | they run a public cloud | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:56 | |
| tbarron | would like to hide protocaols not used from their customers | 15:57 |
| tbarron | that's #1 | 15:57 |
| vponomaryov | it is question for implementing additional APIon server side | 15:57 |
| bswartz | sorry tbarron I thought you were saying you wanted to wait to next week | 15:57 |
| bswartz | keep going | 15:57 |
| tbarron | well, we'll need to talk about it then too | 15:57 |
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| tbarron | so if someone has something else for now | 15:58 |
| xyang3 | tbarron: do you know if cinder-manage and manila-manage is packaged in Red Hat distro? | 15:58 |
| bswartz | does it make sense to turn protocols on/off per-share-type? | 15:58 |
| bswartz | or only turn protocols on/off across the whole instance of manila? | 15:58 |
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| tbarron | xyang3: i'll check and get back to you | 15:58 |
| xyang3 | tbarron: ok, thanks | 15:58 |
| tbarron | xyang3: but i think yes | 15:58 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we already has appropriate extra spec | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: is it tenant-visible? | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | no | 15:59 |
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| vponomaryov | "storage_protocol" - reported by each driver | 15:59 |
| bswartz | I think we need something tenant-visible for horizon can remove invalid options from the protocol dropdown | 15:59 |
| bswartz | okay we'll indeed need to revisit this topic | 15:59 |
| bswartz | tbarron: see if you can get sgotliv to join us next week | 16:00 |
| tbarron | yeah, thanks | 16:00 |
| tbarron | i will | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | thanks all | 16:00 |
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| vponomaryov | thanks | 16:00 |
| tbarron | thanks | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| xyang3 | thanks | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 16:00:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-05-12-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-05-12-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-05-12-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 16:00:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
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| kozhukalov | hello everyone | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | agenda is here | 16:01 |
| maximov | hi | 16:01 |
| asaprykin | hi | 16:01 |
| ashtokolov | hi! | 16:01 |
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| fzhadaev | Hi! | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Mixed team status (asaprykin) | 16:01 |
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| mwhahaha | hi | 16:01 |
| asaprykin | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/scV2XxT1/ | 16:01 |
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| warpc | hi! | 16:02 |
| asaprykin | Mixed team is working on bugfixing. | 16:02 |
| asaprykin | One critical bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1576127. | 16:02 |
| asaprykin | Patch was merged to 10.0, backport to 9.0 is on review. | 16:02 |
| asaprykin | Questions? | 16:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1576127 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Execution of openastck-config doesn't applied for primary-controller node" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Alexander Saprykin (cutwater) | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | short status indeed | 16:03 |
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| kozhukalov | is this bug a blocker for swarm? | 16:03 |
| asaprykin | yes, it is | 16:04 |
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| kozhukalov | how many test cases does it break? | 16:04 |
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| kozhukalov | ok anyway fix is on review, thanks asaprykin | 16:05 |
| asaprykin | It breaks test cases related to this particular feature | 16:05 |
| asaprykin | doesn't affect anything else | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | moving on then? | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | #topic UI Team status (vkramskikh) | 16:05 |
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| vkramskikh_ | Hi! We're still working on bugs - during Russian holidays we've got 5 new High and Critical bugs. We still have 6 High and 1 Critical bug to fix. | 16:06 |
| vkramskikh_ | As for Newton acitvities, we're working on tech debt - updating our dependencies (Backbone & LoDash, attempting to use NPM 3.x dedupe functionality) and migrating to native promises from jQuery Deferreds. | 16:06 |
| vkramskikh_ | Also, as a result of my discussions during summit, we're helping OpenStack to move towards migration to ES6 aka ES2015 by adding ES6-related rules for ESLint to eslint-config-openstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/eslint-config-openstack+topic:es6 | 16:06 |
| vkramskikh_ | Questions? | 16:06 |
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| kozhukalov | vkramskikh_: great that you are helping them to switch to ES6 | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | unfortunately for Newton we still don't have clear scope | 16:08 |
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| kozhukalov | I hope it will be clear at the beginning of next week | 16:08 |
| kozhukalov | thank you vkramskikh_ for the information | 16:08 |
| kozhukalov | looks like no one has any q | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:09 |
| vkramskikh_ | you're welcome :) | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Telco Team Status (fzhadaev) | 16:09 |
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| fzhadaev | Our team continues fixing bugs: | 16:09 |
| fzhadaev | Done from the last update - 12 | 16:09 |
| fzhadaev | In progress (in development and on review) - 15 | 16:09 |
| fzhadaev | Still have no certain plans for 10.0. | 16:09 |
| fzhadaev | Do you have any questions? | 16:09 |
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| kozhukalov | yes, I heard about some issues with dpdk in nailgun-agent, do you have any info on this? | 16:11 |
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| kozhukalov | akasatkin: could also have some info on this | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | are there any links to bugs? | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | ok, looks like akasatkin isn't here | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | moving on then | 16:13 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Toolbox Team status (ashtokolov) | 16:13 |
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| fzhadaev | hm. I can't answer right now. sorry :( I'll try to find this bug | 16:13 |
| ashtokolov | Fuel toolbox Team is working on bugs | 16:14 |
| akasatkin | looking.. | 16:14 |
| ashtokolov | Current status: 25 bugs | 16:14 |
| ashtokolov | Last 2 weeks status: Income 13 bugs, Outcome: 17 bugs. | 16:14 |
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| ashtokolov | One critical bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1578974 was fixed in master and on review in stable/mitaka | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578974 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "It is not possible to execute a separate task" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Igor Kalnitsky (ikalnitsky) | 16:14 |
| ashtokolov | that's all | 16:14 |
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| kozhukalov | nice 17 bugs fixed for 2 weeks | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | great job folks | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | thanks for the info | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | does anyone have any q here? | 16:16 |
| dklenov | Folks, regarding DPDK issue - it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1580541. Integration between nailgun-agent and nailgun | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1580541 in Fuel for OpenStack "Compute re-deployment with network bonding and DPDK fails: Puppet (err): Can't add bond 'bond0'" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aleksey Kasatkin (alekseyk-ru) | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | dklenov: thanks | 16:17 |
| akasatkin | ah, https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1580541 . it's more about bonds than dpdk .. we don't have a good solution for nailgun-agent so far so we patch nailgun | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | i see it is on review | 16:17 |
| akasatkin | to not accept info from nailgun-agent in some cases | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | btw, there is a patch for nailgun-agent about getting rid of ohai https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314642/ | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | i don't like because i hope we'd better get rid of nailgun-agent itself | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | in favor of ironic-inspector | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | but it is another story | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic diagnostic snapshot & shotgun - using non-root (gomarivera) | 16:20 |
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| gomarivera | With regards to https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/fuel-specs/specs/9.0/fuel-nonroot-openstack-nodes.html. | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | Which mentions: * Nailgun will pass to Shotgun ssh-user parameter along with ssh-key for remote SSH access. This username will be taken from the DB. * Shotgun will be extended to accept ssh-user parameter and use sudo, if needed. | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | We need discussion about the method of design for shotgun and diagnostic snapshot such that they do not require root level access to the openstack nodes. Furthermore, the diagnostic snapshot capabilities should enable a certain level of viewing privileges for the data. | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | what we want to discuss is | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | 1. Is diagnostic snapshot still a feature that will be kept in the Fuel roadmap? | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | 2. prior discussions mentioned the use of file transfer method or a potential sudo implementation of the fetch | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | the non-root feature - will it be definitely implemented in by Fuel 10 | 16:20 |
| gomarivera | if not we need consensus on whether to sue sudo to fetch files or provide a strategy around addressing this in the current cycle | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | 1. IMO diag snapshot should be independent (shotgun is already independent project), and there are plans to move it to plugins or get rid it totally in favor of timmy tool | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | give me a second to find a link | 16:23 |
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| kozhukalov | https://github.com/adobdin/timmy | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | i am not sure about this particular tool (mirantis support team uses it) | 16:24 |
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| kozhukalov | I'd like fuel to provide a good plugin interface for such a feature like diag snapshot button on UI | 16:25 |
| gomarivera | i am not familiar with it either - in concern to the topic - my question would be regarding the expected design around using non-root access - and any view privileges | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | or UX could be totally CLI | 16:25 |
| dnikishov | could we have a standalone task graph to fetch diagnostic data? | 16:26 |
| mwhahaha | my vote for diagnostic snapshots on the local nodes would be to leverage https://github.com/sosreport/sos rather than write yet another one. then figure out a way to collect them | 16:26 |
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| maximov | kozhukalov: yes, looks like timmy is specifically designed for gathering logs for openstack env, +1 to use it | 16:26 |
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| kozhukalov | gomarivera: anyway I understand your concerns about root access | 16:27 |
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| gomarivera | it represent a blocker to dnikishov - he brought up that not having a clear path forward in addressing it could block the non-root implementation | 16:28 |
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| kozhukalov | maximov: I am not talking that timmy or any other tool should replace shotgun. my idea is rather that diag snapshot should not be default fuel functionality, it should be a separate tool, everyone should be able to use his favorite tool | 16:29 |
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| gomarivera | if there's plan to decouple diagnostic snapshot to a different tool that's pluggable then that would make it better | 16:30 |
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| dnikishov | is there a blueprint/spec for this? | 16:31 |
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| gomarivera | we in the end need a plan b in case the new tool is not implemented during 10/N timeframe | 16:31 |
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| kozhukalov | gomarivera: i don't like the idea to use fabric sudo feature instead of root access, because it does not actually addresses all the security issues, but yes, in 9.0 we could accept this fix that dnikishov made, but keeping in mind that in the future we will make this feature independent | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | dnikishov: blueprints for Newton will be created next week (still don't have approved scope and resources) | 16:34 |
| dnikishov | thanks | 16:35 |
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| kozhukalov | gomarivera: plan B would be to use timmy or use shotgun independently (btw it is data driven) | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | as far as I understand dnikishov had some ideas to use kind of rootwrap for dealing with this | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | dnikishov: could you comment on this? ^ | 16:37 |
| dnikishov | kozhukalov: do I understand this correctly that for now it's ok to have fabric sudo in shotgun, but we'll have to design a new tool with possibility of non-root in mind? | 16:38 |
| kozhukalov | gomarivera: about timmy could you please contact adobdin@mirantis.com directly or in openstack-dev ML? | 16:38 |
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| gomarivera | yes i can | 16:39 |
| dnikishov | rootwrap could be used, but only if we know what we need to collect beforehand | 16:39 |
| kozhukalov | dnikishov: yes, let's do it for 9.0, but please make resource property (i.e. configurable) | 16:40 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, are there any other q? | 16:41 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:41 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Open discussion | 16:42 |
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| mwhahaha | Please see mailing list about using upstream haproxy module | 16:43 |
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| kozhukalov | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094823.html | 16:44 |
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| kozhukalov | thanks mwhahaha for this info | 16:45 |
| kozhukalov | ok, if there are no other topic, then closing | 16:46 |
| kozhukalov | thanks everyone for attending | 16:46 |
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| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 16:46:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-05-12-16.00.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-05-12-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-05-12-16.00.log.html | 16:46 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting Security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 17:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:00 |
| elmiko | o/ | 17:00 |
| lhinds | hi * | 17:00 |
| tkelsey | hey hyakuhei :) | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | :D | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | long time no see! | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | Looks like a quiet room this week - must be all this nice weather | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll go kick tmcpeak | 17:02 |
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| tkelsey | :) he was just in a podcast with browne and me, so may be a sec | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | ooooh | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | Fancy! | 17:03 |
| elmiko | seriously... | 17:03 |
| tkelsey | heh :) podcast.__init__ did an interview on Bandit | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Sweet! | 17:04 |
| elmiko | awesome! | 17:04 |
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| tkelsey | should be live in about a month or so, so yeah watch this space i guess :P | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:04 |
| redrobot | o/ | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #chair elmiko | 17:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: elmiko hyakuhei | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #chair tkelsey | 17:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: elmiko hyakuhei tkelsey | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Anyone else want a chair? | 17:04 |
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| sicarie | I've got one, thanks! | 17:05 |
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| sicarie | sorry, that was bad | 17:05 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | It’s very sunny here and the wind is blowing out to sea… | 17:05 |
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| redrobot | I've got a standing desk, so I'm good on chair for now | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | #chair sicarie | 17:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: elmiko hyakuhei sicarie tkelsey | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | sounds lovely hyakuhei | 17:05 |
| sicarie | boo :) | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Now you have two sicarie | 17:05 |
| nsun1 | LOL | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | redrobot: hipster. | 17:05 |
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| ccneill | o/ | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | ok lets run through the agenda then. For those of you late to the party: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:06 |
| ccneill | I think I have finally updated my calendar to accurately reflect the real time of this meeting O:-) | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | ccneill: I normally do that just in time for DST to kick in | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | lol | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Anchor | 17:06 |
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| ccneill | yep, that's what messed with me :X | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: Anything much going on with Anchor from your end? Stan etc? | 17:06 |
| dg__ | think its just you hyakuhei | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool, | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | humm, we found a bug in our "hello world" example around the standards verification filter ... but thats fixed now | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | rofl, yeah that was dumb | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | So today I was updating the (8 month out of date) Docker image | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | The problem with Anchor in Docker is that it exists with a pre-built key | 17:08 |
| dg__ | oh yeah i forgot about hello world | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Which means if you just run “docker run anchor” you’ll get a CA with the same private key that everyone else who’s run it is using. | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Obviously dumb. | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | So although incomplete, today I got this working https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315675/1 | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | WIP just for showing you guys atm | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | i see, interesting | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | So if you give it “-v /key” it’ll create a new key and new certificate | 17:09 |
| dg__ | lgtm | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | if you create a key/certificate locally and give it ‘-v /key:mykeydir’ etc, it’ll use the key you’ve given it | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | Similar for config | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | sounds good to me | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | So the reason I bring this up is because I’m not really sure what best practice is for these things | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | This seems fairly flexible. | 17:10 |
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| redrobot | I think best practice would be to make a data container and put your key there | 17:10 |
| redrobot | then mount the data container to the anchor container | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | well, that’s what -v does | 17:10 |
| elmiko | i think doing a volume mount with the sensitive data is not too far out of alignment | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | At least, that’s what I thought it did | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | If you give it an empty volume called /key it’ll generate new stuff on the fly, if there’s stuff in the volume it’ll use that. | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | It doesn’t persist anything itself. | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | Very much open to improvements here, either on IRC or on the review - thanks elmiko redrobot | 17:12 |
| redrobot | local volumen != data container | 17:12 |
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| elmiko | redrobot: true | 17:12 |
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| hyakuhei | According to some blog on the internet As of Docker 1.9.0, Docker has named volumes which replace data-only containers | 17:12 |
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| tkelsey | heh bleeding edge FTW | 17:13 |
| redrobot | interesting... there's always a pretty good chance that I have no idea what I'm talking aboug ;) | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll do more reading :) I’m fairly new to using docker for anything actually useful :) | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Most of the time the volumes will be empty, which is just a nice way of doing things | 17:13 |
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| hyakuhei | TBH I’m thinking I should probably remove the pre-cut key altogether | 17:14 |
| elmiko | that would be safest, imo | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | +1 sounds reasonable | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | since it should never be used | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | I need to ask around to see if anyone has a nice way of hooking dockerhub into OpenStack’s git so that containers get built whenever we make a change | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: That’s my thought yeah. | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | I might modify bootstrap so it always cuts a new key unless there’s a key in the /key volume then use that instead | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | where volume might actually need to be something else as per redrobot | 17:15 |
| elmiko | one more point to consider on this topic, if you ever plan to build higher than docker, into kubernetes, there is also this option: http://kubernetes.io/docs/user-guide/secrets/ | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Anyway, seemed somewhat useful so I thought I’d raise it | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | They’re like encrypted databags right ? | 17:16 |
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| hyakuhei | I was tempted to go down that road _or_ have anchor pull in data from env variables (which docker controls) | 17:16 |
| elmiko | not sure about the encryption, but its a simple way to hold secrets for pods/containers | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | but volumes are _much_ easier. | 17:16 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll make sure to take a look elmiko | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | That’s all I had on Anchor anyway. | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:17 |
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| tkelsey | so, padocast.__init__ just did an interview | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | *podcast.__init__ | 17:17 |
| tkelsey | seemed to go OK, should be live in a month | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | Sweet | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | A month!? Lots of editing then :P | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | browne tmcpeak and myself are in it | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | heh yeah, the chap has a pipeline of interviews to process | 17:18 |
| elmiko | so awesome, grats to all =) | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | i'll post out the ML once I know more :) | 17:18 |
| redrobot | woot! | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah that’s really great ! | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | thanks elmiko its nice that he reached out to us, means Bandit is getting more well known | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | thanks redrobot hyakuhei | 17:19 |
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| tkelsey | not much else on the radar from me, any one else have anything? | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool. | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Do we have any Syntribos peeps around? | 17:20 |
| ccneill | howdy | 17:20 |
| ccneill | :) | 17:20 |
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| unrahul | yup | 17:20 |
| ccneill | mdong? | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Syntribos | 17:20 |
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| hyakuhei | Tell us all the things! | 17:21 |
| ccneill | I think we've got most of us here. michaelxin might not be back at the office at the moment | 17:21 |
| ccneill | sure | 17:21 |
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| ccneill | so we had a pretty long design session yesterday at the Castle to talk about our future direction | 17:21 |
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| ccneill | we're still working on improving existing tests for the time being | 17:22 |
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| ccneill | with a plan to test against mvaldes' vulnerable API within the next week or so | 17:22 |
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| ccneill | we have a deep dive meeting today to discuss our plans for improving a few existing tests (LDAP injection, buffer overflow, integer overflow, and SQLi) | 17:22 |
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| mdong | rahulunair has also started the process of removing opencafe dependencies, starting with the client | 17:23 |
| ccneill | yes ^ | 17:23 |
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| ccneill | we're actually looking for a good point-of-contact for planning our transition to more openstack-y things | 17:23 |
| ccneill | e.g. oslo config/oslo logging/etc. | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | That’s very interesting! | 17:23 |
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| elmiko | nice! | 17:23 |
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| ccneill | I think we're gonna all go heads-down on it for a day or two to rip out all the remaining CAFE pieces, once we have a good idea of what we'll be replacing them with | 17:24 |
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| ccneill | hmm, what else.. | 17:24 |
| ccneill | I think that's about it for the near-term | 17:24 |
| ccneill | if anyone wants to volunteer to help us out with our CAFE transition (strategizing, not really writing code) | 17:25 |
| ccneill | we'd really appreciate it O:-) | 17:25 |
| lhinds | ccneill, I am interested in there | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | I don’t really know anything about CAFE :( | 17:25 |
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| ccneill | hyakuhei: what we really need is someone who's familiar with more openstacky things | 17:25 |
| lhinds | oh, its this CADF? | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: :D | 17:25 |
| lhinds | i read it wrong | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | Heh, CADF != CAFE | 17:26 |
| lhinds | I derped | 17:26 |
| ccneill | I think we have a pretty good understanding of what pieces in CAFE we need to remove, and what they do for us | 17:26 |
| elmiko | ccneill: what kinda of "openstacky things" would like you to know more about? | 17:26 |
| mdong | specifically, we’d like some help with oslo configs | 17:26 |
| elmiko | i'd be happy to help | 17:26 |
| ccneill | oslo config, oslo logging, potentially oslo messaging (I know so little about them I don't know whether we need this or not :X) | 17:26 |
| ccneill | sweet | 17:27 |
| ccneill | you da man, elmiko | 17:27 |
| elmiko | i'm guessing you'l really want oslo.config and .logging | 17:27 |
| elmiko | let's talk offline sometime | 17:27 |
| ccneill | I'll reach out to you tomorrow if you have some time then? | 17:27 |
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| elmiko | sure | 17:27 |
| ccneill | pretty packed with meetings today | 17:27 |
| elmiko | just sent you my email too | 17:27 |
| ccneill | sweet. thanks again | 17:27 |
| ccneill | I think that's it for syntribos :) | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | Excellent! | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:28 |
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| hyakuhei | Hmmm. To be honest I’ve not looked at these for a little while. | 17:29 |
| elmiko | likewise | 17:29 |
| lhinds | So put a rate-limiting ossn up for review | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | At the summit we spoke lots about turning these into Yaml or something | 17:29 |
| lhinds | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313896/ | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | TBH I think that’s doable with some up-front effort, just split the pile into 2-3 stacks and work on them, less than a days work to just manually change things. | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks lhinds | 17:29 |
| lhinds | I was not sure if I needed to add reviewers myself, or core gets notified | 17:29 |
| elmiko | didn't we run into technical issues with line length when nkinder looked at yaml before? | 17:30 |
| lhinds | I also might have made a mistake and not branched first, but I compared the gerrit review page, and it looks ok | 17:30 |
| lhinds | i.e. good to merge, if / when it passes review | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | I’ll take a quick look | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | What’s the #### Repose ### bit about? | 17:31 |
| lhinds | The repose config in there was tested. I used the DoS script supplied in the launchpad bug, it worked well, or at least did the job. | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | Ah ok | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | That’s a very well researched OSSN lhinds :) | 17:32 |
| lhinds | also I will still do a security group section as well, but wnated to not hold the OSSN back while I worked on it | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Must have taken some work! | 17:32 |
| lhinds | thanks hyakuhei | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | You get one security cookie! They’re rare! Don’t show the others though, they get jealous. | 17:32 |
| lhinds | :) | 17:32 |
| elmiko | haha, nice! | 17:33 |
| lhinds | the other topic, was what you brought up - which is some sort of OSSN format that can be consumed downstream....e.g. SCAP content | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn - there’s a few in the queue now | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | So SCAP want’s a _lot_ more than currently exists in OSSNs | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | but I’m happy to look at capturing that info | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | Problem is it’s hard because paths to $things are different per distro/deployetr | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | *deployer | 17:34 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei, good point. | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | I’m 100% down for a computer readable format though. | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | That we can turn into other things | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | dave-mccowan: you around? | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | What’s the status on the Barbican/Nova/Key one? | 17:35 |
| lhinds | maybe we can variable'ize root paths, which the dists then populate themselves | 17:35 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | lhinds: potentially, I don’t really know how flexible SCAP is | 17:35 |
| lhinds | $etc_keystone/keystone.cfg | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | hey dave-mccowan | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | What’s required for your OSSN ? | 17:35 |
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| dave-mccowan | just reviews. i addressed all comments to date, but have not gotten any reviews on the latest patch. | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | oh ok, linky? | 17:36 |
| dave-mccowan | https://review.openstack.org/267800 | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll try to review that before my 1900 meeting | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, anything else on OSSN? | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, Travis is afk, anyone want to talk publicity? | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | If not we’ll move straight onto docs | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Docs | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | elmiko: sicarie | 17:38 |
| sicarie | So we have a large review on the Manila chapter in-flight | 17:38 |
| sicarie | Looks pretty good, but I haven't been able to review the last 3 files | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Cool! | 17:39 |
| sicarie | lhinds is hinting a rate-limiting section is coming, which will be awesome | 17:39 |
| sicarie | I opened 2 bugs on general format stuff | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds is now our rate limiting guru | 17:39 |
| sicarie | consistency | 17:39 |
| sicarie | +1 :D | 17:39 |
| sicarie | one of which has already been updated | 17:40 |
| lhinds | hey no pressure eh ;-) | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | Sweet | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:40 |
| sicarie | I need to re-ping the Neutron reviewers, but that's about it so far | 17:40 |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | Sounds good, anything else? | 17:41 |
| sicarie | Not from me | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Blog | 17:41 |
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| hyakuhei | So I think one of my attempts to change the date on one of my posts broke things | 17:41 |
| elmiko | =( | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | So you can push new posts but jekyll won’t update | 17:41 |
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| dg__ | go team! | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll fix it tomorrow AM hopefully. Unless someone else wants to? | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | I think you all have merge permissions | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | You do because you can also push straight to Master | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | Only blog in the queue is the reaction to the mis-information from the summit | 17:43 |
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| sicarie | hyakuhei: i have 2/3 blog posts in various states of "done-ness" | 17:43 |
| sicarie | They're just not in my repo | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | cool! | 17:43 |
| dg__ | I will have updates to the TA blog at some point, probably mid next week | 17:44 |
| * sicarie can't 'git' it | 17:44 | |
| * elmiko groans | 17:44 | |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:44 |
| sicarie | sorry, my git-fu sucks, so it's the cleanest way for me | 17:44 |
| sicarie | but I do have more coming | 17:44 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:44 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, lets roll on | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Threat Analysis | 17:46 |
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| hyakuhei | dg__: Anything? I’ve not looked this week | 17:47 |
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| hyakuhei | Guess not | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:47 |
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| dg__ | hyakuhei no ive not touched it this week. RL. | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:48 |
| dg__ | catch up on TA next week? | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:48 |
| dg__ | kk | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | So anyone got anything else to cover before we wrap up? | 17:48 |
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| elmiko | nothing from me | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool, thanks all! | 17:50 |
| ccneill | o/ | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 17:50:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:50 |
| elmiko | thanks hyakuhei | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-05-12-17.00.html | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-05-12-17.00.txt | 17:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-05-12-17.00.log.html | 17:50 |
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| lhinds | anks all | 17:52 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 12 18:01:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:02 |
| vgridnev | hello folks | 18:02 |
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| tosky | hi | 18:02 |
| elmiko | o/ | 18:02 |
| pgadiya | hello | 18:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 18:02 |
| esikache1 | hi! | 18:02 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:02 |
| mionkin | hi :) | 18:03 |
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| vgridnev | #topic News / updates | 18:03 |
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| vgridnev | what news do you have folks? | 18:04 |
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| elmiko | not much news for me, i've been looking at the apiv2 patches that went up and examining the fix to the oozie password fix. | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've almost completed the api docs migration to our repo | 18:04 |
| mionkin | researching Kerberos capabilities in cloudera | 18:04 |
| vgridnev | I'm working on specs writing (I suppose I will upload soon them), also will upload some fixes soon | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | need to finish some minor stuff to figure out where to add links to different branches | 18:05 |
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| pgadiya | I have sent few pactches w.r.t HDP 2.4 and resumed working on APIv2 for refactor start jobs | 18:05 |
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| tosky | not too much right now, I was waiting for the new sahara-tests and gently pinging the RDO packagers about it | 18:05 |
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| vgridnev | #topic API v2 progress | 18:07 |
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| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273316/ | 18:07 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/api-v2 | 18:07 |
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| vgridnev | elmiko, pgadiya any news regarding this? | 18:08 |
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| elmiko | i don't think so | 18:08 |
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| pgadiya | Started working on refactor start jobs | 18:08 |
| elmiko | i need to get a few specs out, but it's going slowly | 18:08 |
| elmiko | awesome, great to hear pgadiya ! | 18:08 |
| pgadiya | Also, checking why jenkins throws -2 for one of my patch sent earlier | 18:09 |
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| vgridnev | pgadiya, seems that grenade is not stable because of neutron issues | 18:09 |
| pgadiya | yes | 18:10 |
| elmiko | most likely not your patch, but something in the ci | 18:10 |
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| pgadiya | elmiko, agreed | 18:10 |
| vgridnev | ok, then | 18:10 |
| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 18:10 |
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| vgridnev | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 18:11 |
| vgridnev | newton-1 is around May 31 - June 2 | 18:12 |
| elmiko | wow, i love the nova spec approval freeze. that's some serious lead time | 18:12 |
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| vgridnev | so, my plan to release sahara newton-1 milestone at this time, along with mitaka stable release, since we have several important fixes merged | 18:13 |
| tosky | good | 18:13 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:14 |
| pgadiya | sounds good | 18:14 |
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| vgridnev | so, we all waiting for specs proposals, looks like there is no large topics to discuss | 18:16 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'm planning to start a spec about "cluster actions" stuff we've discussed at summit | 18:16 |
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| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: +1 | 18:16 |
| pgadiya | vgridnev, Shall we revisit the sahara blueprints part | 18:16 |
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| vgridnev | pgadiya, what do you want to revisit? | 18:17 |
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| vgridnev | Looks like almost all blueprints are good ideas | 18:17 |
| pgadiya | well, much over on the review part for one of the patch related to HDP 2.4 :) | 18:17 |
| pgadiya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313010/ | 18:17 |
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| vgridnev | Also, as info I will be traveling since 20 of May till 30 of May, will continue reading IRC/Mail. Will do code-review as well | 18:20 |
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| elmiko | ack | 18:21 |
| elmiko | pgadiya: was there a question about that review? | 18:21 |
| pgadiya | yes, vgridnev had confirmed the 2.4 json file | 18:21 |
| elmiko | k | 18:22 |
| pgadiya | I would like other folks to also review if that looks good | 18:22 |
| vgridnev | pgadiya, change is LGTM, let's wait until esikachev will process the CI job for that | 18:22 |
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| pgadiya | vgridnev, ack | 18:22 |
| tosky | about hdp 2.4, would it make sense to change the naming of the jobs? We have ambari-2.3 and (soon) ambari-2.4, but it's really ambari 2.2 with hdp 2.3 and 2.4 | 18:23 |
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| pgadiya | tosky, +1 | 18:24 |
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| vgridnev | tosky, I guess that we can use hdp2x in template name. And inside of template we can use ambari-2.2 as image | 18:25 |
| vgridnev | or ambari-2.2-hdp-2x as template name | 18:25 |
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| tosky | it would be just to make things less confusing, especially if ambari jumps to 2.5 for some reason but able to deploy hdp 2.4 | 18:26 |
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| tosky | not that it would happen, but it could :) | 18:26 |
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| vgridnev | anything else to discuss? | 18:29 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:30 |
| pgadiya | same here | 18:30 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | nothing from me | 18:30 |
| tosky | idem | 18:31 |
| vgridnev | ok, thanks for attending | 18:31 |
| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 12 18:31:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:31 |
| elmiko | thanks vgridnev | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-05-12-18.01.html | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-05-12-18.01.txt | 18:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-05-12-18.01.log.html | 18:31 |
| pgadiya | thank you all | 18:31 |
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