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| * hughhalf notes that the Product Working Group regional meeting will start shortly | 01:59 | |
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| leong | o/ | 02:00 |
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| hughhalf | Ok, I make it just after Midday so lets get started | 02:00 |
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| leong | (y) | 02:00 |
| hughhalf | #startmeeting Product Working Group Regional/APAC | 02:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 02:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hughhalf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Product Working Group Regional/APAC)" | 02:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group_regional_apac' | 02:01 |
| hughhalf | #topic Roll Call | 02:01 |
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| hughhalf | o/ | 02:01 |
| hughhalf | Please take a moment to wave if you're attending the meeting. | 02:01 |
| leong | hi hughhalf.. might want to keep this meeting as product_working_group | 02:01 |
| hughhalf | leong fair call :) | 02:01 |
| hughhalf | #startmeeting Product Working Group | 02:01 |
| openstack | hughhalf: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 02:01 |
| leong | otherwise this will not be automatically tracked under product wg eavesdrop | 02:01 |
| hughhalf | ok dokey | 02:02 |
| hughhalf | #endmeeting | 02:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 02:02:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group_regional_apac/2016/product_working_group_regional_apac.2016-05-17-02.01.html | 02:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group_regional_apac/2016/product_working_group_regional_apac.2016-05-17-02.01.txt | 02:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group_regional_apac/2016/product_working_group_regional_apac.2016-05-17-02.01.log.html | 02:02 |
| hughhalf | #startmeeting Product Working Group | 02:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 02:02:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hughhalf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 02:02 |
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| hughhalf | #topic Roll Call | 02:02 |
| shintaro | hi / | 02:02 |
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| samP | hi/ | 02:02 |
| leong | hi again :) | 02:02 |
| hughhalf | o/ | 02:02 |
| fredli | hi all | 02:02 |
| shintaro | hi/ | 02:02 |
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| hughhalf | any other takers for the roll call ? | 02:03 |
| kei | o/ | 02:03 |
| * hughhalf notes with thanks kei and leong for assiting in pulling the meeting together :) | 02:03 | |
| leong | no problem! | 02:03 |
| kei | no problem at all. | 02:03 |
| hughhalf | I don't see any other roll call-ees so lets go to the next topic in the agenda - Summit Recap | 02:03 |
| hughhalf | #topic Summit Recap | 02:04 |
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| hughhalf | leong and kei please interject if I miss things :) | 02:04 |
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| hughhalf | (or anyone else) | 02:04 |
| leong | sure! | 02:04 |
| kei | sure thing. | 02:04 |
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| hughhalf | For the Summit Recap - I'll put in a little note for a post I did that summaries all the different Project summaries that went to the list; http://hugh.blemings.id.au/2016/05/17/openstack-summit-austin-2016-summary-of-summaries/ | 02:05 |
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| hughhalf | I'd welcome other Summit Recap style things though please if folk have them | 02:05 |
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| leong | anyone has any feedback/comments from the summit? | 02:06 |
| hughhalf | Were many people that are here today at the Summit ? | 02:06 |
| leong | i am | 02:07 |
| fredli | I was at summit. | 02:07 |
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| kei | hughhalf: that's a nice page. | 02:07 |
| shintaro | i was but could not attend PWG sessions | 02:07 |
| kei | i was there. | 02:07 |
| * hughhalf thanks kei | 02:07 | |
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| hughhalf | fredli, shintaro, did you find the summit useful ? | 02:08 |
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| kei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG_Working_Session_AUS | 02:09 |
| shintaro | hughhalf: yes as always! | 02:09 |
| leong | please note there is a updated workflow after reviewing with the TC/Board | 02:09 |
| hughhalf | shintaro, excellent! | 02:09 |
| leong | #link Revised workflow https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories#User_Story_Workflow | 02:09 |
| fredli | hughhalf: yes. face to face is always good. | 02:09 |
| hughhalf | yes, hard to beat IRL discussions to be sure :) | 02:09 |
| hughhalf | My sense is that there's not a lot of Summit Recap to discuss, shall we move on to the Workflow Revision as that was next on the agenda ? Leong would you like to lead this ? | 02:10 |
| leong | ok | 02:10 |
| leong | #topic Workflow Revision | 02:11 |
| hughhalf | thanks | 02:11 |
| leong | hughhalf can use set the next topic | 02:11 |
| hughhalf | #topic Workflow Revision | 02:11 |
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| leong | thanks | 02:11 |
| hughhalf | np | 02:11 |
| leong | there is a revised workflow | 02:11 |
| leong | #link Revised workflow https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories#User_Story_Workflow | 02:11 |
| leong | please have a look and let us know if you have any questions | 02:12 |
| hughhalf | Looks reasonable to me | 02:12 |
| leong | the revised workflow takes into consideration the feedback from TC/board | 02:12 |
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| fredli | the action "gap and overlap analysis" is new, cool | 02:13 |
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| leong | yup.. so a user story potentially can lead into a new project depending on the analysis outcome | 02:14 |
| hughhalf | it's a good model I think | 02:14 |
| shintaro | What is Implementation Plan? | 02:14 |
| fredli | so it will be important to attend cross project meeting | 02:14 |
| leong | instead of just cross-project spec in the past | 02:14 |
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| leong | the implementation plan will lead into 3 potential path | 02:15 |
| leong | we shall update the wiki page to elaborate what an implementation plan is | 02:15 |
| leong | hughhalf, please put that action item to me | 02:16 |
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| kei | leong: So does this mean that PWG will also treat non cross project user stories? | 02:16 |
| shintaro | so the implementation plan is some kind of documentation to decide which path the use case should take? | 02:16 |
| leong | #action leong to work with shamail to update the wiki to elaborate what an implementation plan is | 02:16 |
| hughhalf | #action leong to update the Wiki Page to explain the implementation plan | 02:16 |
| leong | kei, potentially yes! | 02:16 |
| kei | leong: that's nice. thanks. | 02:17 |
| leong | so in this morning "us-region" product wg meeting, Product WG will collaborate with the OPNFV community for user stories | 02:17 |
| hughhalf | #topic User Story review/merge/discuss | 02:17 |
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| hughhalf | Yes that scrollback is probably worth reviewing if people have it - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-05-16-21.01.log.html | 02:18 |
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| leong | some action item from "us-region" meeting: | 02:18 |
| leong | #link action item from us-region meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-05-16-21.01.html | 02:19 |
| hughhalf | Thanks leong good call | 02:19 |
| leong | next week the team will review the status of the top 5 user story | 02:19 |
| hughhalf | I think they are reviewing in a phone call then minuting in an etherpad | 02:20 |
| leong | two of the user-stories 'ha vm' and 'baremetal' are mainly driven from this team here from apac region | 02:20 |
| leong | yes... the review will be done over phone | 02:20 |
| hughhalf | are the right people in the loop to participate in that discussion do you think leong ? | 02:20 |
| leong | i will definitely be in the call | 02:21 |
| hughhalf | excellent | 02:21 |
| leong | would anyone from NTT be able to attend? | 02:21 |
| leong | especially for the ha_vm user story | 02:21 |
| samP | me shintaro and kazu | 02:21 |
| leong | the ha_vm user story is coordinated by Pete (suse) | 02:21 |
| shintaro | what time? | 02:22 |
| leong | US pacific at 2pm | 02:22 |
| * hughhalf nods | 02:22 | |
| leong | is that 6am in Tokyo with current timezone/dst | 02:22 |
| leong | kei was in the call this morning, is that 6am? | 02:23 |
| kei | leong: yes. it is. | 02:23 |
| hughhalf | Yes, I believe it's 0600h | 02:23 |
| samP | leong: where can I find the details of this meeting? | 02:23 |
| * hughhalf buys the .jp folk a virtual espresso for that session | 02:23 | |
| leong | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-05-16-21.01.html | 02:23 |
| shintaro | leong: thanks that may work | 02:23 |
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| shintaro | with some espresso! | 02:24 |
| leong | talking about the ha_vm , is there any discussion with mistral? | 02:24 |
| samP | leong: we had some discussion with mistral team. | 02:25 |
| samP | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha | 02:25 |
| kei | hughhalf: my virtual espresso (my one year old son) woke up at 6am today and kept me awake by keeping talking to me... | 02:26 |
| hughhalf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha | 02:26 |
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| hughhalf | heh, that's the best kind of espresso kei :) | 02:26 |
| leong | that's good, the objective of next week call for each user story is to update the status and see what help is required to move forward. | 02:26 |
| samP | Here is the summit discussion of HA-Team. There are work items for mistral | 02:26 |
| shintaro | hughhalf: :) | 02:26 |
| kei | hughhalf: :) | 02:26 |
| * hughhalf nods at leong | 02:26 | |
| samP | But how to proceed is still under discussion. | 02:27 |
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| kazuIchikawa | The discussion in the summit clarified us some requirements, so I believe I have to revisit the user story of HA VMs to make sure all factors are covered. | 02:27 |
| hughhalf | it's good the converesation is being had samP - hopefully lessens duplication | 02:27 |
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| kazuIchikawa | I and SamP are working on that. | 02:28 |
| leong | kazuIchikawa, it will be great if you could update the ha vm user story prior to next week call... | 02:28 |
| kazuIchikawa | leong: got it! | 02:28 |
| leong | cool! | 02:30 |
| leong | for the baremetal.. are we good with the user story? | 02:30 |
| hughhalf | leong yes it looks reasonable to me | 02:30 |
| kei | leong: I believe there's no outstanding comments now. | 02:31 |
| leong | ok.. | 02:31 |
| leong | the scientific-wg also has interested in ironic/baremetal | 02:31 |
| leong | but they are more coming from academic/hpc perspective | 02:31 |
| leong | so they might brought up a different related user story in baremetal | 02:31 |
| leong | the user story that we are driving here is more from the enterprise workload perspective | 02:32 |
| leong | the scientific-wg just inaugural in austin and the first meeting is tomorrow on irc channel | 02:32 |
| hughhalf | sounds good leong - HPC is always good to have in the mix I think for these conversations, particularly as there are more people interested in OpenStack for these applications | 02:33 |
| kei | leong: thanks for the information. at the summit, i mentioned i may add one more feature to the baremetal user story, which is nmi injection and graceful shutdown for enterprise. | 02:34 |
| leong | ok kei, it will be great if you could include that prior to next week call | 02:34 |
| kei | leong: since it can be considered as a single project thing, i haven't added it to the user story yet. but with the new work flow, i think i'll add it. | 02:34 |
| leong | i think it is fine to include in this user story as this is generally from a "user" perspective | 02:35 |
| kei | leong: ok. i will do that. | 02:35 |
| leong | later on in the workflow, the "analysis" stage might lead into a different implementation path | 02:35 |
| * hughhalf nods | 02:35 | |
| kei | leong: that's right. | 02:36 |
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| leong | that's all i need to discuss for these two user stories | 02:37 |
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| hughhalf | thanks leong | 02:37 |
| kei | thanks, leong. | 02:37 |
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| hughhalf | anythign else on user stories that people would like to contribute ? | 02:37 |
| * hughhalf waits another moment | 02:38 | |
| hughhalf | I propose we move on to Open Discussion next then, if there is any | 02:38 |
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| hughhalf | #topic open discussion | 02:38 |
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| hughhalf | I'd welcome any open topics from ya'll (pretending to be Texan there :) | 02:39 |
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| kei | hughhalf: :) in the main meeting today, they've decided three focus areas for newton cycle. | 02:39 |
| kei | 1) validating the updated work flow | 02:40 |
| hughhalf | Gah, I must have missed that kei, do you recall what they were ? | 02:40 |
| kei | 2) Evolving roadmap themes and corresponding views | 02:40 |
| kei | 3) integration with OPNFV, with a plan to follow that with a Container Community | 02:40 |
| leong | bingo kei +1 | 02:41 |
| kei | if anyone in this meeting wants to add/change/remove, now is the time i guess :) | 02:41 |
| shintaro | looks good but OPNFV use case would be broad | 02:42 |
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| shintaro | may need a lot of work to prioritize them | 02:42 |
| * leong agree with shintaro | 02:42 | |
| hughhalf | I think there was some discussion to that effect - that OPNFV would be complex to consider | 02:43 |
| hughhalf | I guess we can flag that in the meeting | 02:43 |
| samP | BTW, we gonna have a VoIP meeting in HA-Team tomorrorw (5/18) 9 UTC. Pls find more details at ML [openstack-dev][HA] | 02:44 |
| hughhalf | thanks samP | 02:44 |
| hughhalf | any other matters we should discuss in open discussion ? | 02:44 |
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| * hughhalf hopes he's not pushing the meeting too fast | 02:45 | |
| leong | basically trying to integrate the flow of user stories from OPNFV community into OpenStack | 02:45 |
| leong | samP will be great if you could update that into the user-stories if there is any changes | 02:45 |
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| leong | i think we are good today... | 02:47 |
| hughhalf | Anything further folks before we close the meeting ? | 02:47 |
| leong | please try to join the voice call meeting next week.. though is 6am in Japan :-) | 02:47 |
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| samP | Thank you all | 02:47 |
| hughhalf | I again thank leong and kei for organising things, and to all that participated in the conversations today! | 02:48 |
| leong | our next regional meeting shall be two weeks later | 02:48 |
| hughhalf | Have a great week everyone, until next time! :) | 02:48 |
| * hughhalf nods at leong | 02:48 | |
| leong | thanks all! | 02:48 |
| kei | thanks! | 02:48 |
| * leong give all a thumbs up! | 02:48 | |
| hughhalf | All done, thanks folks, I will close the meeting now | 02:48 |
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| hughhalf | #endmeeting | 02:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 02:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 02:49:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-05-17-02.02.html | 02:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-05-17-02.02.txt | 02:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-05-17-02.02.log.html | 02:49 |
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| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 13:00:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:00 |
| moshele | hi | 13:00 |
| lbeliveau_ | hi | 13:00 |
| gjayavelu | hi | 13:00 |
| lennyb | moshele hi | 13:00 |
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| moshele | let get started | 13:01 |
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| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:02 |
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| moshele | regarding CI I know lennyb is still working on the Mellanox CI to move it to containers | 13:02 |
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| moshele | anyone have anything to add or we can move on | 13:03 |
| lbeliveau_ | when do you think this is going to be done and working ? | 13:03 |
| moshele | end of this week | 13:04 |
| lbeliveau_ | awesome ! | 13:04 |
| moshele | #topic Documentation | 13:04 |
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| moshele | so it seem that all the SR-IOV/NUMA/PCI doc update are merged | 13:05 |
| lbeliveau_ | yes | 13:05 |
| moshele | thanks to lbeliveau_ and sfinucan | 13:05 |
| lbeliveau_ | the only think that I still need to do is to document the feature taht ndipanov did for pf and vf | 13:06 |
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| moshele | beliveau: yes I will add this in our TODO | 13:06 |
| lbeliveau | also, I think the integration of pci passthrough with neutron is done, but I have never tested that | 13:07 |
| lbeliveau | this would need to be documented as well | 13:07 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: it done I review the code on the neutron side | 13:07 |
| moshele | if I have time I will try to test it | 13:08 |
| lbeliveau | ok, I should be available also to work on this later this week | 13:08 |
| moshele | ok I added pf passthough doc task in the agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda | 13:09 |
| moshele | anything else or we can move on? | 13:09 |
| gjayavelu | i had one question on documentation. Currently, the step to create pci_alias is missing on create virtual functions page: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-sriov.html#create-virtual-functions-compute | 13:09 |
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| gjayavelu | should we add that ? | 13:09 |
| lbeliveau | yeah, it could be done with pci_alias as well, but you wouldn't get your device associated with a neutron port | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | but you are right, we should clarify | 13:11 |
| moshele | you can put a note | 13:11 |
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| moshele | I don't think anyone will use it like this | 13:11 |
| gjayavelu | ok | 13:11 |
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| gjayavelu | because I found that info on the new page for pf https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312234/14/doc/admin-guide/source/compute-pci-passthrough.rst | 13:11 |
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| gjayavelu | so thought would be good to keep it consistent | 13:12 |
| lbeliveau | yeap good point, we can add that and clarify | 13:13 |
| moshele | I agree | 13:13 |
| moshele | #topic bug fixes | 13:14 |
| gjayavelu | i'll add it. | 13:14 |
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| moshele | gjayavelu: and add you patch to the agenda so we can review ti | 13:14 |
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| lbeliveau | hi mriedem | 13:14 |
| mriedem | o/ | 13:14 |
| moshele | hi mriedem | 13:14 |
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| moshele | so my resize patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307124/ | 13:15 |
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| moshele | I fix the issue of clearing all the allocated pci device after confirm migration | 13:16 |
| moshele | so now I am freeing only the old pci devices | 13:16 |
| lbeliveau | cool, I'll test it in my testbed later today | 13:17 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I test it manually can you run also some tests on it | 13:17 |
| moshele | Intel PCI is failing so I can see if it passes the resize test | 13:17 |
| lbeliveau | I'll also test cold migration with it | 13:17 |
| moshele | yonglihe: around? | 13:18 |
| lbeliveau | have they fixed their test code as I suggested ? | 13:18 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I don't know | 13:18 |
| lbeliveau | let me have a quick look at their git | 13:18 |
| moshele | they are not sharing the tests | 13:18 |
| moshele | mriedem: I update the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda with patches that are ready for core review | 13:20 |
| lbeliveau | https://github.com/intel-hw-ci/Intel-Openstack-Hardware-CI/commit/21cd67b3c72592044d1c5eda8333832d9631e08f | 13:20 |
| moshele | cool they fix there resize test | 13:21 |
| mriedem | do we have a section like that in the overal nova newton review priorities etherpad? | 13:21 |
| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 13:21 |
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| mriedem | ah we do, L168 | 13:22 |
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| moshele | mriedem: I will update the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking with the paches | 13:22 |
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| moshele | anything else on bugs? | 13:23 |
| lbeliveau | no, I think the next one will be to fix cold migration | 13:24 |
| lbeliveau | I don't know if sfinucante has more numa bugs to review | 13:24 |
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| moshele | there is still one which I have him -1 | 13:25 |
| moshele | #topic SR-IOV Specs | 13:25 |
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| moshele | anyone want to talk about their specs? | 13:26 |
| lbeliveau | I still need to fix mine, haven't had much cycles to put on that lately, will do for next week | 13:27 |
| gjayavelu | moshele: i added one to agenda only yesterday, may be i could move it for next week to give others more time | 13:27 |
| moshele | gjayavelu: yes I review yours had some questions | 13:27 |
| lbeliveau | gjayavelu: I will review for next week | 13:27 |
| gjayavelu | thanks | 13:28 |
| moshele | anything else? | 13:28 |
| mriedem | yeah | 13:29 |
| mriedem | on this is_new patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310990/ | 13:29 |
| mriedem | what was is_new used for? what was the hack? | 13:29 |
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| mriedem | i'm trying to figure out what was setting new=True in the db | 13:29 |
| moshele | as far as I know nothing | 13:30 |
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| moshele | just a sec let me look for Nikola commet | 13:30 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310990/4/nova/objects/instance_pci_requests.py@122 is where it's set | 13:32 |
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| moshele | see Nikola's comment on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301307/ | 13:33 |
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| mriedem | this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301307/3/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py | 13:34 |
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| moshele | yes | 13:34 |
| mriedem | and the new_ and old_ he's talking about is what you're doing in your migration patch | 13:35 |
| mriedem | to store the pci_requests old/new in the migration context | 13:35 |
| moshele | yes | 13:35 |
| mriedem | why doesn't https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310990/ come after your migration fix then? | 13:36 |
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| moshele | I can make a dependency, but because it is broken and the is_new is never set anyway I don't think it is matter | 13:37 |
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| mriedem | moshele: ok, i left some comments in the is_new patch | 13:39 |
| mriedem | see what you think | 13:39 |
| mriedem | after the meeting is fine | 13:39 |
| moshele | ok | 13:39 |
| moshele | anything else? | 13:39 |
| moshele | ok thanks everyone | 13:40 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 13:40:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-05-17-13.00.html | 13:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-05-17-13.00.txt | 13:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-05-17-13.00.log.html | 13:40 |
| lbeliveau | bye | 13:40 |
| mriedem | thanks moshele | 13:40 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 14:00:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
| jrist | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| shardy | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| shadower | hey | 14:00 |
| marios | o/ | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hi all, who's around? | 14:00 |
| rdopiera | hi | 14:00 |
| gfidente | o/ | 14:01 |
| jdob | o/ | 14:01 |
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| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:01 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 14:01 |
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| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:01 |
| jistr | o/ | 14:01 |
| * myoung waves | 14:01 | |
| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
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| shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
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| shardy | Does anyone have any more one-off items to add today? | 14:02 |
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| sshnaidm | shardy, please add to items: "tempest run for nonha periodic jobs" | 14:02 |
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| shardy | sshnaidm: ack, thanks | 14:02 |
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| rbrady | o/ | 14:03 |
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| shardy | #topic one off agenda items | 14:03 |
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| shardy | #info should we remove the containers job (slagle) | 14:03 |
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| shardy | slagle: did you chat with rhallisey or Slower about that? | 14:03 |
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| akrivoka | \o | 14:03 |
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| jcoufal | o/ | 14:04 |
| dprince | hi | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | we should rather bring it back to green, isn't? | 14:04 |
| chem` | yo | 14:04 |
| shardy | it's been broken for a long time, so I agree we either need to fix it or remove it | 14:04 |
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| slagle | shardy: no, i wasn't able to last week, that's why i added it to the meeting | 14:04 |
| shardy | EmilienM: well, yes, but folks said they were doing that and it's not happened for $months | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | :-( | 14:04 |
| weshay | o/ | 14:04 |
| slagle | i would just like to know if people are working on fixing it | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | he has a bunch of patches in progress for that | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | they need to be rebased / passing CI / merged and things could be better | 14:05 |
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| enikher | hey | 14:05 |
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| enikher | #info Nikolas Hermanns | 14:05 |
| rhallisey | hey | 14:05 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:05 |
| rhallisey | sorry I'm late | 14:05 |
| derekh | o/ | 14:05 |
| shardy | rhallisey: Hey, we're discussing the containers CI job | 14:05 |
| slagle | EmilienM: right there was a lot of discussion at the summit though about not using docker-compose any longer, etc | 14:05 |
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| shardy | what's the status there, do we have a plan to get it working again? | 14:06 |
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| ccamacho | o/ | 14:06 |
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| rhallisey | so the job worked for awhile. I can rebase it to get it back working, but with composable roles the gate will be flaky | 14:06 |
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| dprince | shardy: we will need the job again at some point | 14:06 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:07 |
| qasims | o/ | 14:07 |
| shardy | rhallisey: Ok, so we're trying to decide if we can get it working, or if it should be temporarily removed | 14:07 |
| slagle | of course, we can always add it back | 14:07 |
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| shardy | obviously getting it working is preferable, but we need folks willing to keep it green | 14:07 |
| rhallisey | I considered the current state as temproarily removed | 14:07 |
| rhallisey | which I think is appropriate | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | maybe keep it only for tripleo-ci project jobs so rhallisey can still run some tests or moving it to experimental pipeline | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | so he can "check experimental" when needed | 14:08 |
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| shardy | rhallisey: Ok, well it's disabled, but we're discussing removing it from the default pipeline | 14:08 |
| shardy | EmilienM: +1 that's perhaps a reasonable compromise | 14:08 |
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| rhallisey | shardy, ya I agree with EmilienM | 14:08 |
| rhallisey | that would be best | 14:08 |
| shardy | slagle: does that work for you? | 14:08 |
| slagle | sure | 14:08 |
| derekh | yup +1 to what EmilienM said, that way it wont be using up as many jenkins slaves | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | rhallisey: if you're not familiar with infra, I can make the patch, let me know. | 14:09 |
| shardy | #info agreement to make containers job temporarily only run via experimental pipeline | 14:09 |
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| shardy | #info tempest run for nonha periodic jobs | 14:09 |
| shardy | sshnaidm: ^^ | 14:09 |
| rhallisey | EmilienM, may ask some questions. I've done it once :) | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | rhallisey: cool, we catch-up after the meeting | 14:10 |
| sshnaidm | I think timeout is not the issue now after HW upgrade as I see in logs | 14:10 |
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| sshnaidm | so we can try to run tempest tests on periodic nonha jobs as the shortest ones | 14:10 |
| rhallisey | shardy, sorry about being a tad late. I'm in a large meeting in westford | 14:10 |
| shardy | rhallisey: no problem | 14:10 |
| sshnaidm | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297038/ | 14:10 |
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| rhallisey | container stuff | 14:11 |
| derekh | sshnaidm: ya, I think we have the time available to do this now | 14:11 |
| dprince | I'd like to hold on Tempest | 14:11 |
| dprince | It really isn't our biggest problem ATM | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | +1 | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | our CI is broken almost every day | 14:12 |
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| EmilienM | can we stabilize it first? | 14:12 |
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| dprince | like seriously... could someone point out what if anything Tempest is going to catch that our existing CI isn't already telling us | 14:12 |
| derekh | sshnaidm: befor we merge that though can we just do one think, submit a WIP patch to run a fake period job to make sure there working as that patch isn't tested in ci | 14:12 |
| shardy | derekh: I was just about to ask how we see that patch actually working :) | 14:12 |
| dprince | Our existing ping test is working quite well | 14:12 |
| sshnaidm | dprince, we already caought 2 bugs with tempest runs | 14:12 |
| sshnaidm | derekh, sure | 14:13 |
| trown | sshnaidm: what bugs? | 14:13 |
| dprince | sshnaidm: that is great. The question is does the extra time Tempest costs us warrent running it on every single test | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | on the other hand running tempest on periodic job does not hurt as much as running in our gate. | 14:13 |
| sshnaidm | trown, I don't remember the numbers, one is about sahara non available and another one, I can find later | 14:13 |
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| trown | I have seen it catch packaging bugs where out of tree tempest plugins werent packaged right | 14:13 |
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| shardy | dprince: I think the proposal is only to run it once per day? | 14:13 |
| dprince | sshnaidm: If those bugs are like constantly regressing you may have a case | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | trown: right, puppet-CI catches is very often. | 14:13 |
| dprince | shardy: we've been over this *so* many times | 14:13 |
| derekh | dprince: its, for the periodic job, it doesn't add anything to normal ci runs | 14:13 |
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| dprince | nobody is again running tempest in the periodic jobs | 14:14 |
| dprince | okay, that is fine then | 14:14 |
| sshnaidm | dprince, EmilienM I don't think tempest will hurt CI, the current fails have their own reasons, not sure tempest test will break something | 14:14 |
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| shardy | dprince: we went over it a couple of weeks ago, and the consensus was OK, let's add it to the periodic job if we have enough walltime | 14:14 |
| dprince | period is fine | 14:14 |
| slagle | if we merge that, our promotes, which are also done by periodic jobs, will be dependent on tempest | 14:15 |
| derekh | so we're all good | 14:15 |
| derekh | slagle: yes they will | 14:15 |
| dprince | slagle: that is a good point | 14:15 |
| sshnaidm | slagle, right | 14:15 |
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| slagle | i dont think we really need that tbh | 14:15 |
| dprince | but... my main concern is adding wall time to the existing jobs | 14:15 |
| slagle | what about a separate periodic job for tempest that does not influence the promote? | 14:15 |
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| sshnaidm | dprince, as I saw all last nonha jobs it's not an issue, we have a time now | 14:16 |
| sshnaidm | slagle, the point here is not promote bugs, afaiu.. | 14:16 |
| dprince | sshnaidm: even so. I think what you are hearing is basically Tempest doesn't add much to our existing CI | 14:16 |
| pabelanger | I raised a question on the ML about the CI pipeline recently: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095143.html and have some ideas how to reduce CI times. Would be interested in feedback on it after the meeting | 14:16 |
| dprince | sshnaidm: there is value in having our promotion job match (as closely as possible) what our Trunk jobs do as well | 14:17 |
| sshnaidm | dprince, if it already caught a few bugs, why not? | 14:17 |
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| dprince | sshnaidm: list the bugs and make the case. I'm more interested if those bugs are perhaps corner cases... that may not often cause regressions in TripleO | 14:18 |
| shardy | Ok, we're going to have to time-box this discussion and move on I think | 14:18 |
| shardy | we keep having the same discussion every time, so lets all vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297038 | 14:18 |
| slagle | i think the issue is that not every bug out there needs to block tripleo forward progress | 14:18 |
| shardy | sshnaidm: please link the bugs found there, and post a link to where we can see results of it running | 14:18 |
| derekh | slagle: that true but if it doesn't block something we'll possibly ignore it | 14:18 |
| shardy | slagle: every bug out there typically does block forward progress anyway tho ;) | 14:19 |
| slagle | derekh: agreed, and i think i'm leaning towards ignoring some things is ok :) | 14:19 |
| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:19 |
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| slagle | obviously we want to find and report all bugs that we can | 14:19 |
| derekh | slagle: then a valid bug could make it the whole way to the end of a cycle until we start panicing about it | 14:20 |
| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/?orderby=-id&start=0 | 14:20 |
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| sshnaidm | dprince, shardy one of them: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309042/ | 14:20 |
| dprince | shardy: I'm -2 on the Tempest patch as is I think | 14:20 |
| shardy | So there's a packaging issue wrt mistral (caught by the periodic job), it now needs designateclient | 14:20 |
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| shardy | I'm trying to get a packaging fix in for that, and I confirmed the long term plan is for mistral to have soft dependencies so we won't have to install all-the-clients | 14:22 |
| shardy | Any other bugs folks want to discuss? | 14:22 |
| dprince | shardy: so rbrady filed a bug on the Mistral timeouts issue | 14:22 |
| dprince | shardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1581649 | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581649 in Mistral "Action Execution Response Timeout" [High,New] | 14:22 |
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| rbrady | dprince: I'm still working on that bug | 14:22 |
| dprince | which I don't actually see myself. But apparently it could be related to eventlet and the fact that we run Mistral API in Apache WSGI | 14:23 |
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| d0ugal | I am seeing that bug too | 14:23 |
| dprince | rbrady: yep, just highlighting it so people know where to look if they hit that issue | 14:23 |
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| dprince | shardy: that is all from me on bugs | 14:23 |
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| shardy | dprince: interesting, thanks! I hit that myself quite a few times | 14:23 |
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| marios | +1 me too i thought it was underpowered undercloud | 14:24 |
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| rbrady | it would be helpful that anyone else seeing that bug notes that in launchpad | 14:24 |
| marios | i often had to just re-run the execution | 14:24 |
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| shardy | rbrady: will do - I hit it pretty much 50% of my executions | 14:24 |
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| marios | shardy: same | 14:24 |
| shardy | which sounds like a blocker to switching the client over to mistral | 14:24 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 14:25 |
| shardy | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-1 | 14:25 |
| dprince | shardy: yes, this needs to be fixed | 14:25 |
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| shardy | So, the newton-1 milestone is in less than two weeks - I'm hoping we can cut some releases around the end of next week (or during the week after, but I'll be on PTO) | 14:26 |
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| shardy | can folks review that list, and ensure anything you consider release-blocker gets on there, and anything else gets moved to n-2? | 14:26 |
| marios | shardy: well, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/overcloud-upgrades | 14:26 |
| marios | shardy: i was winderig about that one | 14:26 |
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| shardy | marios: Yup, that was going to be my next question - can we break that down into some smaller pieces? | 14:27 |
| shardy | that's a catch-all BP and I'm guessing we can't declare it implemented for n-1? | 14:27 |
| marios | shardy: right... i wasn't even clear what is was about exactly | 14:27 |
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| jistr | yea i think we can break it down into smaller BPs | 14:28 |
| marios | shardy: i can work with jistr to define something for next week's meeting? | 14:28 |
| shardy | marios: any remaining pieces (including CI coverage) we need to be able to declare mitaka->newton upgrades fully supported in upstream builds | 14:28 |
| jistr | marios: +1 | 14:28 |
| marios | shardy: or is that too late already? | 14:28 |
| shardy | marios: sure, sounds good, thanks! | 14:28 |
| shardy | marios: we can chat about it between now and next week - please enumerate the todo list somewhere, e.g etherpad | 14:29 |
| marios | shardy: ack | 14:29 |
| jistr | ack | 14:29 |
| jcoufal | +1 feel free to drag me in if needed | 14:29 |
| shardy | trown: what's the status wrt quickstart - can we declare that implemented now? | 14:29 |
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| trown | shardy: we are still a bit blocked on the image front, but I am meeting with derekh later today to sync on that | 14:30 |
| trown | shardy: since the only consumable image atm is from RDO | 14:30 |
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| shardy | trown: Ok, looks like we may have to bump to n-2 then, can you perhaps link an etherpad from the BP with details of what remains, or link bugs in the tripleo-quickstart launcpad? | 14:31 |
| trown | shardy: will do | 14:31 |
| shardy | zero blueprints for n-1 | 14:31 |
| shardy | Ok, sorry we kinda side-tracked off bugs a bit there | 14:31 |
| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:31 |
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| slagle | on the aodh backport topic, i did see what deps get pulled in if you try and install aodh from mitaka on a liberty controller | 14:32 |
| shardy | So, pradk posted http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095097.html | 14:32 |
| slagle | and it was only aodh related packages | 14:32 |
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| slagle | afaict | 14:32 |
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| slagle | so i think we might be able to migrate to aodh as the first step in a mitaka upgrade | 14:33 |
| shardy | slagle: interesting, so we could potentially do that as part of the upgrade vs backport? | 14:33 |
| slagle | shardy: yes, that's my hope | 14:33 |
| trown | I like that better | 14:33 |
| slagle | and avoid the backport | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | +1 | 14:33 |
| shardy | I think that would be better if possible | 14:33 |
| shardy | If folks have other opinions please reply to the thread | 14:33 |
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| slagle | i'll reply with what i found in my test | 14:34 |
| shardy | I guess this is a somewhat common requirement, so it'd be good to solve it in a general way | 14:34 |
| shardy | since for stable/mitaka we will not be even considering such backports | 14:34 |
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| shardy | I already had to abandon our application for stable:follows_policy governance tag due to stable/liberty | 14:35 |
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| shardy | we're now blocked from applying that until liberty is EOL, so a non-backport solution would be preferable from that angle also | 14:35 |
| shardy | slagle: thanks | 14:35 |
| jistr | the general way we had in mind previously involved doing it as a last step of the upgrade | 14:35 |
| jistr | together with the "convergence via puppet" | 14:36 |
| jistr | but that implies not missing the deprecation period | 14:36 |
| jistr | (we need to be able to use the old service/config/whatever with the new packages) | 14:36 |
| shardy | jistr: AIUI the problem is aodh obsoletes the ceilometer-alarm packages, so then we'd have no alarm service for the duration of the upgrade? | 14:36 |
| shardy | (which could be days while all the computes are upgraded?) | 14:36 |
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| jistr | yea | 14:36 |
| jistr | but it wouldn't have to obsolete them necessarily i think | 14:37 |
| jistr | but the issue is | 14:37 |
| jistr | that ceilometer-alarm is not present in upstream release of mitaka IIUC | 14:37 |
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| shardy | jistr: ack - well can you, slagle and pradk talk, and post an update to the thread with your preferred approach? | 14:38 |
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| jistr | sure thing. If we can find better solution than what we've found out so far, that would be great. | 14:38 |
| shardy | +1 | 14:38 |
| shardy | Ok, anything else re releases or backports to mention? | 14:39 |
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| shardy | #topic CI | 14:39 |
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| shardy | derekh: care to give an update re the new super-speedy CI? | 14:39 |
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| derekh | Main CI story is that we (eventually) got HW upgrades done for the machines doing CI | 14:40 |
| derekh | all of them not have 128G of RAM (was 64) | 14:40 |
| derekh | and 200G SSD's | 14:40 |
| shardy | AFAICT the performance looks quite a bit better? | 14:41 |
| derekh | but w'ere only currently using the SSD'd for the testenv's , jenkins slaves arn't using them yet | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | shardy: well, we haven't had much time to evaluate, CI was broken a lot of time since Friday. | 14:41 |
| derekh | testenvs is where it was most important though | 14:41 |
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| EmilienM | but yeah, upgrades jobs ~1h45 I've seen | 14:41 |
| derekh | shardy: ya things look better but I'm reluctant to say anything concrete until we have a few days where tunk is actually working | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | some nonha take 1h23 | 14:42 |
| dprince | performance is definately improved. Would be nice to try and quantify it a bit further though | 14:42 |
| derekh | the upgrade took a day longer then I had hoped, due to our bastion host refusing to reboot | 14:42 |
| shardy | Yeah, definitely moving in the right direction, but would be good to figure out if we can get the runtimes a little more consistent | 14:42 |
| derekh | dprince: yup, once we get a few days of results I'll try and do a comparison | 14:43 |
| derekh | might even generate a graph or something | 14:43 |
| shardy | e.g I've seen nonha jobs vary between 1hr11 and 1hr40+ | 14:43 |
| dprince | derekh: thanks for driving this | 14:43 |
| shardy | pabelanger: did you have anything to add re your CI work? | 14:43 |
| dprince | and thanks for the teamwork in configuring the new drives in the BIOS (slagle, bnemec, EmilienM) | 14:43 |
| pabelanger | sure | 14:44 |
| pabelanger | I'd like to see if we can merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316973/ | 14:44 |
| shardy | +1 thanks to everyone involved in the hardware upgrade and subsequent cleanup | 14:44 |
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| derekh | ya,thanks all with the bios help, that would have been a PITA alone | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | also big kudos for pabelanger for staying very late on Thursday evening | 14:44 |
| pabelanger | then find a time to migrate to centos-7 jenkins slaves: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316856/ | 14:44 |
| pabelanger | Then the last step is launching an AFS mirror, which derekh is going to be commenting on the ML | 14:44 |
| jrist | pabelanger++ | 14:44 |
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| EmilienM | nice move :-) | 14:46 |
| derekh | pabelanger: that patch looks good to me | 14:46 |
| shardy | thanks pabelanger, we'll check out those patches | 14:47 |
| shardy | #topic Specs | 14:47 |
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| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:47 |
| shardy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:47 |
| shardy | beagles: thanks for your feedback on the dpdk and sriov ones, still need others to check those out | 14:47 |
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| beagles | yup | 14:48 |
| shardy | we also need to confirm direction wrt the lightweight HA one | 14:48 |
| shardy | e.g if we can switch to only that model, or if we must support the old model too | 14:49 |
| shardy | Any other updates re specs/features? | 14:49 |
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| shardy | dprince: other than needing more reviews, any updates re composable services? | 14:50 |
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| shardy | hopefully we can get a clear few days in CI and start landing those | 14:50 |
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| shardy | I posted a further example of how the fully composable/custom roles might work in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315679/ | 14:51 |
| dprince | shardy: no, reviews are good | 14:51 |
| dprince | shardy: working CI will help too | 14:51 |
| shardy | Not yet functional, but feedback re the general approach is welcome | 14:51 |
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| shardy | Ok then | 14:52 |
| shardy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:52 |
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| shardy | Anyone have anything else to raise? | 14:52 |
| slagle | shardy: do you think we'd drive the templating via mistral? | 14:52 |
| shardy | slagle: yes, that was my plan | 14:52 |
| shardy | for now I've put the script in t-h-t, but I'd expect it to move to tripleo-common and be driven via mistral as part of the deployment workflow | 14:53 |
| gfidente | hey guys I wanted to ask if anybody has thoughts about the problem raised by EmilienM in the mailing list? | 14:53 |
| slagle | cool, will have a look | 14:53 |
| gfidente | on sharing data across roles | 14:53 |
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| shardy | gfidente: I think the allnodes deployment is probably the place to do it | 14:53 |
| gfidente | and if there are opinions about my reply to have an 'allNodesConfig' output from the different toles? | 14:53 |
| shardy | we've done that in various templates already | 14:54 |
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| EmilienM | let's try that | 14:54 |
| gfidente | ack | 14:54 |
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| shardy | gfidente: Yeah, figuring out how that may wire in to composable services is tricky, but the only way to pass data between all the roles will be in allnodeconfig I think | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: do you have a PoC already? | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | or any example of existing code? | 14:54 |
| gfidente | EmilienM no so we can start by using the *existing* allNodesConfig | 14:55 |
| gfidente | until we figure how to 'compose' that from the roles | 14:55 |
| dprince | gfidente: the composable role bits we have today should be thought of as global config blogs | 14:55 |
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| dprince | gfidente: any per node settings are still being handled in the server templates themselves (compute.yaml, controller.yaml, etc.) | 14:55 |
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| dprince | and then the all nodes configs roll up that information into lists, etc. when needed | 14:56 |
| gfidente | dprince yes but it's only distributed to nodes of same 'type' | 14:56 |
| dprince | if we need to access data between the two I'd just suggest using hiera I think | 14:56 |
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| gfidente | so yes for networking I have a submission which dumps IPs into hieradata | 14:57 |
| gfidente | but for inter-role data we can't assume hiera is available | 14:57 |
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| gfidente | because we could be writing hiera on a different node then the one we need to read the data from | 14:57 |
| dprince | gfidente: it may not be available, but it eventually would be right? | 14:57 |
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| dprince | gfidente: hiera lookup with a default? | 14:57 |
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| gfidente | let's continue on #tripleo | 14:58 |
| shardy | +1 | 14:58 |
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| gfidente | it's probably different cases we need to cover | 14:58 |
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| dprince | gfidente: sure, there are some corner cases to cover yet | 14:58 |
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| gfidente | hiera seems okay for networking though | 14:58 |
| gfidente | cause we dump it from controller and consume from service | 14:59 |
| shardy | Ok, we're pretty much out of time, thanks everyone! | 14:59 |
| gfidente | on same node | 14:59 |
| shardy | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 14:59:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-05-17-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-05-17-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-05-17-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | thanks shardy ! | 14:59 |
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| rhallisey | thanks :) | 14:59 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 15:03:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | hi doude, enikher, matrohon, timirnich | 15:03 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:03 |
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| enikher | #info Nikolas Hermanns | 15:03 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:03 |
| doude | hi | 15:03 |
| enikher | hey | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | enikher: I've proposed Jan and Georg to join as well... do you know if they may come ? | 15:05 |
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| enikher | I will contact them internally | 15:05 |
| tmorin | enikher: k, thanks | 15:05 |
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| enikher | georg will come, jan does not have time. | 15:07 |
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| tmorin | ok | 15:07 |
| tmorin | let's start | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | for the agenda, I think we can discuss: Neutron stadium expected implications on bgpvpn (let's be shorter than last week), mitaka release, doc update, ongoing work on API new features | 15:08 |
| tmorin | anything else you see ? | 15:09 |
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| matrohon | fine gor me | 15:09 |
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| tmorin | #topic Neutron stadium expected implications on bgpvpn | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | this is about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312199/ | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | a clarification has been brought up: the API we have now for BGPVPN would be accepted as a starting point | 15:10 |
| tmorin | no need to restart from scratch | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | further evolution will happen via neutron-api/neutron-lib/neutron-specs (details not settled yet), but in a way which would have net-bgpvpn core have +2 rights | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | +w rights would remain at the end of Neutron's cores | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | comments ? | 15:12 |
| tmorin | as far as I can tell, I think staying in the stadium will work out fine | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | matrohon, enikher, doude: any comment ? | 15:14 |
| enikher | I am reading :-) | 15:14 |
| matrohon | nope, I'm fine with that | 15:14 |
| doude | ok | 15:14 |
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| enikher | I am as well | 15:15 |
| pcarver | I'm in favor of APIs in general and BGPVPN APIs in particular being "part of Neutron" whereas backend implementations don't need to be. I think the dicussion is headed in an acceptable direction. | 15:16 |
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| pcarver | networking APIs, I mean. Obviously not all APIs. | 15:16 |
| tmorin | pcarver: +1 | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | ok | 15:17 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | #topic mitaka release | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | our mitaka release is pending | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | the request to release has been waiting for some time now | 15:18 |
| * tmorin trying to find a link | 15:18 | |
| tmorin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1576384 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1576384 in neutron "Request Mitaka release for networking-bgpvpn" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 15:18 |
| tmorin | ihrachys is assigned to it, but must have been busy post-Austin | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | hm, I thought it's merged?.. lemme check | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | oh it's 4.0.0 | 15:19 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: 3.0.1 was released | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | I mixed things I guess. | 15:19 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: yes | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | lemme handle that now | 15:19 |
| tmorin | ok, cool! :) | 15:20 |
| tmorin | having a stable/mitaka branch will be handy | 15:20 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:21 |
| tmorin | #topic Documentation | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | I've pushed minor doc updates today | 15:22 |
| tmorin | base Nuage networks driver info | 15:23 |
| tmorin | and base install/config information | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: any update on what you mentioned last week ? | 15:23 |
| pcarver | tmorin: Do you mean API docs? I'm still reading about Swagger and looking at examples. | 15:24 |
| tmorin | pcarver: yes, that's what I meant | 15:24 |
| tmorin | pcarver: ok | 15:24 |
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| pcarver | I think I've got the general idea but haven't started on BGPVPN APIs yet. | 15:24 |
| pcarver | I need to figure out the toolchain first. | 15:25 |
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| pcarver | There seem to be a few different options. | 15:25 |
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| tmorin | ok | 15:26 |
| pcarver | I haven't found a definitive step-by-step one way to do it guide, but there is a lot of info available so I should be fine | 15:26 |
| pcarver | It's basically a YAML based syntax with tools to generate the dynamic web pages | 15:26 |
| tmorin | don't hesitate to ping #openstack-net-bgpvpn if you think that a discussion between available options can be useful | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: thanks for the update | 15:28 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:28 |
| tmorin | #topic "advanced" routing-related new API features | 15:28 |
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| tmorin | we had dicussed static routes, aggregation, Port associations in Austin | 15:29 |
| tmorin | Georg Kunz pinged me and Jan to proceed where our discussions had stopped | 15:29 |
| tmorin | georgk1: is it you ^^ ? | 15:30 |
| georgk1 | yes, it is me | 15:30 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:30 |
| georgk1 | I was basically just courious to find out about your plans on port association | 15:30 |
| tmorin | the result of the restarted discussion is a summary of the things we want to address in this pad | 15:30 |
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| tmorin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_advanced_features | 15:30 |
| tmorin | the next step is to move from these use case to a list of primitives to add to the API to address the use cases | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | doude, enikher: don't hesitate to have a look, you may already have an idea of how these use cases may map to the controllers you know better | 15:32 |
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| enikher | I will discuss this with Jan and come back to you Thomas | 15:33 |
| tmorin | ok ! | 15:33 |
| tmorin | i'll update the static routes and port association blueprints with a link to this pad | 15:33 |
| georgk1 | tmorin: we will have a meeting the OPNFV NetReady project at 6PM to discuss L3VPN use cases | 15:33 |
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| tmorin | ah, good | 15:34 |
| tmorin | except I won't be able to attend | 15:34 |
| georgk1 | ok, that a shame | 15:34 |
| tmorin | do you have a link on where the discuss would be archived | 15:34 |
| tmorin | hopefully its not gomeeting only ? | 15:34 |
| georgk1 | well.... mostly, i am afraid | 15:35 |
| georgk1 | i´ll try to take some notes | 15:35 |
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| georgk1 | and eventually we are working on a document | 15:35 |
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| georgk1 | so that could be something I´ll send to you later | 15:35 |
| tmorin | I'll appreciate any doc/link you have, to read tomoroow | 15:36 |
| tmorin | yes :) | 15:36 |
| georgk1 | anyway, I would be nice to get your input at some point | 15:36 |
| georgk1 | ok, great | 15:36 |
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| tmorin | yes, it's good if everyone around net-bgpvpn can comment | 15:37 |
| tmorin | thanks | 15:37 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:37 |
| tmorin | #topic open discuss | 15:38 |
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| tmorin | one thing I wanted to announce: we have work in progress on an Horizon plugin for the BGPVPN API, hopefully ready in a few weeks | 15:38 |
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| ihrachys | tmorin: https://review.openstack.org/317582 the release request | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | tmorin: tag and branch are already in your repo | 15:40 |
| tmorin | ihrachys: thanks a lot! | 15:41 |
| tmorin | do we have anything else to discuss ? | 15:42 |
| tmorin | doude, enikher, matrohon, pcarver ? | 15:42 |
| matrohon | not for me | 15:43 |
| doude | nop | 15:43 |
| enikher | Horizon +1 that is cool! | 15:43 |
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| enikher | I don't have anything else | 15:44 |
| pcarver | nothing for me | 15:44 |
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| tmorin | ok, we're done then! | 15:44 |
| tmorin | thanks everyone... | 15:44 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 15:44:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-05-17-15.03.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-05-17-15.03.txt | 15:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-05-17-15.03.log.html | 15:45 |
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| hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 16:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-05-17_1600_UTC Today's agenda | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:00 |
| muralia | o/ | 16:00 |
| mkrai | Madhuri Kumari | 16:00 |
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| wangqun | o/ | 16:00 |
| Kennan | o/ | 16:00 |
| tango | Ton Ngo | 16:00 |
| tcammann_ | sup! | 16:00 |
| Drago | o/ | 16:00 |
| spn_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| juggler | o/ | 16:00 |
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| hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting adrian_otto strigazi muralia mkrai wangqun Kennan tango tcammann_ Drago spn_ juggler | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:01 | |
| hongbin | Spyros Trigazis become our documentation Liaison | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation | 16:01 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Thanks for taking this responsibility | 16:02 |
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| strigazi | my pleasure | 16:02 |
| Kennan | Good work | 16:02 |
| mkrai | Thanks strigazi | 16:02 |
| tango | +1 | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:02 | |
| wangqun | +1 | 16:02 |
| hongbin | Sorry I should ask | 16:02 |
| hongbin | Any other announcement from other team members? | 16:02 |
| spn | o/ | 16:02 |
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| dane_leblanc_ | o/ | 16:03 |
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| hongbin | OK. Advance topic | 16:03 |
| hongbin | 1. hongbin start a ML to discuss the CLI help text documentation (DONE) | 16:03 |
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| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094729.html | 16:03 |
| hongbin | There are several response in the ML | 16:03 |
| hongbin | We have a session to revisit it | 16:04 |
| hongbin | later | 16:04 |
| hongbin | #topic Essential Blueprints Review | 16:04 |
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| hongbin | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:04 |
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| hongbin | strigazi: status? | 16:04 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:04 |
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| strigazi | I was investigating the integration with devstack and managed to just depoly ironic with devstack. This is the fitst thing we need to do | 16:05 |
| hongbin | strigazi: ack | 16:05 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Any road blockers? | 16:05 |
| strigazi | Along with fixing the heat templates? We can assing those two tasks | 16:05 |
| spn | strigazi: I will ping you offline. I would like to setup up a similar one. I have devstack ready | 16:06 |
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| tango | Would it be useful to add some tips in the quickstart on how to deploy ironic in devstack? | 16:06 |
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| tango | for others to try out | 16:06 |
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| spn | +1 | 16:06 |
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| hongbin | Yes, need a documentation for the Ironic devstack setup | 16:07 |
| strigazi | i just followed the manual, just a sec | 16:07 |
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| hongbin | which can be done in a separated person | 16:07 |
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| strigazi | (on ubuntu) | 16:07 |
| strigazi | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/dev-quickstart.html | 16:07 |
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| hongbin | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/dev-quickstart.html | 16:07 |
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| hongbin | Thanks strigazi | 16:08 |
| wangqun | +1 | 16:08 |
| hongbin | Any question for this BP? | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | the docs are a prerequisite? | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | or the docs are depending on this work? | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | I am unable to conclude the direction of the dependency illustrated on the BP | 16:09 |
| hongbin | I think it depends on contributors to define the dependencies of tasks | 16:09 |
| hongbin | Any other question? | 16:10 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Feel free to distribute sub-tasks to others if it can be done | 16:11 |
| strigazi | ack | 16:11 |
| hongbin | Then we can do the BPs in parallel | 16:11 |
| hongbin | 2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | then there shold be no dependency defined | 16:11 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:11 |
| tango | I added a section on storage, covering ephemeral and persistent storage | 16:11 |
| tango | incorporated Qun's doc on volume drivers | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | nice. | 16:12 |
| wangqun | Good work | 16:12 |
| tango | patch under review | 16:12 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317592/ | 16:12 |
| hongbin | Thanks tango | 16:12 |
| tango | Next I will work on bay drivers, while it's still fresh in my mind | 16:12 |
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| hongbin | tango: ack | 16:13 |
| tango | I will write as I understand from the spec, so this will flush out any misunderstanding or assumption | 16:13 |
| Kennan | +1 to know that | 16:13 |
| tango | it will be WIP for awhile, as we proceed with the implementation | 16:13 |
| tango | that's all for now | 16:14 |
| hongbin | Thanks tango | 16:14 |
| hongbin | Any question for tango ? | 16:14 |
| hongbin | 3. COE Bay Drivers (Jamie Hannaford) | 16:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers | 16:14 |
| hongbin | It looks Jamie is not here | 16:14 |
| strigazi | I think we should close the versioning issue | 16:15 |
| muralia | Jamie isint here today, but the spec looks good. i had one question today about tracking minor versions. strigazi seems to have a solution for it. | 16:15 |
| hongbin | muralia: Are you able to give a update on behalf of Jamie? | 16:15 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296384/ | 16:16 |
| muralia | most comments have been addressed. everyone, please do take a look again if you get a chance. | 16:16 |
| hongbin | muralia: Thx | 16:16 |
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| hongbin | Yes, it looks the spec is close to merge | 16:16 |
| hongbin | Any question about this BP? | 16:17 |
| muralia | I was planning to work on the implementation too. tango if you are too, we can collaborate. this is a big chunk of work. | 16:17 |
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| tango | I will certainly collaborate | 16:18 |
| hongbin | tango: Thanks Ton | 16:18 |
| hongbin | Any further comment? | 16:18 |
| hongbin | 4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi) | 16:19 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide | 16:19 |
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| hongbin | strigazi: I saw you uploaded a patch for that? | 16:19 |
| strigazi | I worked on the template that the doc team created. I would like to seperate the task | 16:19 |
| strigazi | One is to have install instructions under /doc | 16:20 |
| strigazi | and publish on owr wiki from source and for centos which are tested by me | 16:20 |
| strigazi | and one to create content under /install-guide | 16:20 |
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| strigazi | to publish on docs.openstack | 16:21 |
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| strigazi | This will get us to a result this week I think | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | would we consolidate them later? | 16:21 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Thanks. It sounds like a good progress | 16:21 |
| strigazi | yes | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | I see, sounds okay from my perspective | 16:21 |
| strigazi | The doc team have plans | 16:22 |
| strigazi | for the next release | 16:22 |
| strigazi | we need something faster | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | faster in what way? | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | you mean we need it sooner? | 16:22 |
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| strigazi | yes, pass the review process sooner and without restrictions from the template etc | 16:23 |
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| strigazi | So, I'll push a different change under magnum/doc | 16:24 |
| strigazi | and work in parallel for the content under magnum/install-guide | 16:24 |
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| strigazi | what do you think? | 16:24 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Thanks. It sounds like we should prioritize the reviews for your patch? | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | I can definitely help it get reviewed, and run through to verify the instructions do work | 16:26 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: thanks | 16:26 |
| strigazi | mostly test it to verify that it works | 16:26 |
| wangqun | I will also help to test it. | 16:26 |
| strigazi | thanks | 16:26 |
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| tango | I tried it out on Mitaka and have some problem with Keystone authentication | 16:27 |
| strigazi | with debconf on ubuntu? | 16:27 |
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| tango | Ubuntu | 16:27 |
| tango | I will follow up with you | 16:27 |
| hongbin | Yes, let flush the comments in the reviews of the patch | 16:27 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:27 |
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| strigazi | that's all from me | 16:28 |
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| hongbin_ | sorry folks | 16:31 |
| hongbin_ | THe internet is dead | 16:31 |
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| hongbin_ | everyone still here? | 16:31 |
| wangqun | yes | 16:31 |
| strigazi | here | 16:31 |
| mkrai | Yes | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 16:31 |
| Kennan | 0/ | 16:31 |
| hongbin_ | :) | 16:31 |
| muralia | yes | 16:31 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:31 |
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| hongbin_ | We talked about the magnum-ui before | 16:32 |
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| hongbin_ | And there is a patch in the magnum-ui side | 16:32 |
| hongbin_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315436/ | 16:32 |
| hongbin_ | I guess that is it | 16:32 |
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| hongbin_ | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:32 |
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| hongbin_ | 1. Add labels help text in magnumclient | 16:33 |
| hongbin_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094729.html | 16:33 |
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| hongbin_ | For recap, we discussed how to document 'labels' in CLI | 16:33 |
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| hongbin_ | There are three options presented | 16:33 |
| hongbin_ | 1. Place the documentation in Magnum CLI as help text (as Wangqun proposed [1][2]). | 16:33 |
| hongbin_ | 2. Place the documentation in Magnum server and expose them via the REST API. Then, have the CLI to load help text of individual properties from Magnum server. | 16:33 |
| hongbin_ | 3. Place the documentation in a documentation server (like developer.openstack.org/...), and add the doc link to the CLI help text. | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | 1 and 3 should not be mutually exclusive. | 16:34 |
| hongbin_ | Yes, I think so as well | 16:35 |
| Kennan | 1 + 3 seems easy and ok enough | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | CLI help text should be in the CLI, not the API. | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | and there should be somewhere to turn for additional detail (web based) | 16:35 |
| hongbin_ | Yes | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | so 1+3 seems best to me | 16:35 |
| Kennan | adrian_otto: do you mean to expose to UI from rest api for web base ? | 16:36 |
| Kennan | I mean help text | 16:36 |
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| adrian_otto | the API does not need to provide the help text. It can be kept in the client. | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | we may end up with different clients that use the API | 16:36 |
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| Kennan | Yes, I think so, web related not need to get from rest API point for help text | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | so if you ahve an operator using an alternate client, having different help text in the API would be really confusing | 16:37 |
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| wangqun | +1 | 16:37 |
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| mkrai | Good point adrian_otto | 16:37 |
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| hongbin_ | Looks like #1 + #3 is the popular option | 16:38 |
| hongbin_ | Any opposing point of view? | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | for example, we might have osc and python-magnumclient both using our API | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | and they have different usage | 16:38 |
| tango | Does this address Tom's concern? | 16:38 |
| tango | (for the -2 on Qun's patch) | 16:38 |
| hongbin_ | tango: He changed it to -1 | 16:38 |
| Kennan | 1+3 is ok for me | 16:39 |
| hongbin_ | tcammann_: are you ok with #1 + #3? | 16:39 |
| hongbin_ | seems he is not here | 16:39 |
| hongbin_ | In general, it looks most of us agree a combination of #1 and #3 | 16:40 |
| mkrai | Yeah +1 for it | 16:40 |
| hongbin_ | So, I would suggest to proceed in this way unless there is further disagreement | 16:40 |
| hongbin_ | wangqun: sounds good to you? | 16:40 |
| wangqun | yes, It's good. | 16:41 |
| hongbin_ | wangqun: Thanks | 16:41 |
| wangqun | I will finish it. | 16:41 |
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| hongbin_ | 2. Manually manage bay nodes | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | I suggest proposing the solution on the ML, seeking final opposing POV | 16:41 |
| hongbin_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095044.html ML discussion | 16:41 |
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| hongbin_ | adrian_otto: you are talking to the "labels" or the "management of bay nodes"? | 16:42 |
| hongbin_ | For the manually management of bay nodes, it looks most of us agreed on the direction in the ML | 16:43 |
| hongbin_ | There are some discussion about the style | 16:43 |
| mkrai | He is talking about labels hongbin_ | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | ? | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | I responded fro sdake's question about client behaviour, and offered a few points of reference that we could model management after. | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | the question was about consistency with other openstack clients. | 16:45 |
| hongbin_ | OK. I responsed to the ML as well | 16:45 |
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| hongbin_ | Let's put the link here | 16:45 |
| hongbin_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095172.html | 16:46 |
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| hongbin_ | In summary, there are three style proposed | 16:46 |
| hongbin_ | 1. magnum node-add [--flavor <flavor-id>] <bay> | 16:46 |
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| hongbin_ | 2. openstack bay node add [--flavor <flavor-id>] | 16:47 |
| hongbin_ | 3. magnum bay node add [--flavor <flavor-id>] | 16:47 |
| hongbin_ | It looks adrian_otto proposed #3 | 16:47 |
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| tango | Question: will the Magnum python client always exist in parallel to the OSC? or will all the project clients be merged into OSC eventually? | 16:47 |
| hongbin_ | adrian_otto: correct? | 16:47 |
| hongbin_ | tango: I think they will co-exist for a while, then switch to OSC finally | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | the python language bindings enable OSC | 16:47 |
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| adrian_otto | the various CLI tools are there for legacy compatibility | 16:48 |
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| adrian_otto | I suggest that we try to confirm with the OSC style now so we don't have a future divergence. | 16:48 |
| Kennan | osc is final direction | 16:48 |
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| hongbin_ | Yes, we will move to OSC eventually | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | s/confirm/conform/ | 16:49 |
| hongbin_ | However, I don't like a mix of two styles (python-*client + OSC) | 16:49 |
| tango | I just wonder whether it's worth making all current command in Magnum consistent to OSC, instead of a mix | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | +1 | 16:49 |
| strigazi | +1 | 16:49 |
| tango | a little pain at the beginning for existing user (mostly us developers) | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | the API can stay the same, the CLI changes. | 16:50 |
| tango | right | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | so we have some docs to tweak | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | but don't need to refactor much code. | 16:50 |
| hongbin_ | I disgree to change the CLI in magnumclient | 16:50 |
| hongbin_ | If it has to change, it should go to the OSC repo | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | why? | 16:51 |
| hongbin_ | I don't see value to do such signficant chance | 16:51 |
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| hongbin_ | As I said, I don't like mix of sytle | 16:51 |
| Kennan | maybe follow other projects style is good reference | 16:51 |
| Kennan | like keystone nova etc. | 16:51 |
| wangqun | +1 Kennan | 16:52 |
| hongbin_ | Here is what other project did | 16:52 |
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| hongbin_ | stay with current style in *client | 16:52 |
| hongbin_ | but print a deprecate warning | 16:52 |
| Kennan | still want to point that, own main focus is to make life cyle function to work, interface styles should not big block for us | 16:52 |
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| hongbin_ | OK, push the discussion to the ML | 16:53 |
| hongbin_ | #topic Open Discussion | 16:53 |
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| hongbin_ | adrian_otto: I don't think why we need to change our CLI, given the fact that we are going to remove it eventually | 16:54 |
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| hongbin_ | adrian_otto: If you want the new style, just implement it in OSC | 16:54 |
| mkrai | +1 hongbin_ | 16:55 |
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| hongbin_ | adrian_otto: Which is more intuitive | 16:55 |
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| muralia | the move to OSC is taking years. I've been hearing this for atleast 2 years. until then, we'll have 2 different styles. | 16:56 |
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| hongbin_ | muralia: I think that is fine. We can print a warning in our CLI to ask users to switch to OSC | 16:57 |
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| hongbin_ | muralia: which is all the other projects are doing | 16:57 |
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| mkrai | Both CLIs are independent, so I don't think we should take this pain of changing the whole magnum commands | 16:57 |
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| Kennan | adrian_otto: hongbin_ better ways is consistentce with other core projects if code not much | 16:57 |
| Kennan | what do you think ? | 16:57 |
| hongbin_ | Kennan: agree | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | we have an opportunity to limit user confusion. | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | seems a shame to miss that opportunity. | 16:59 |
| hongbin_ | OK. TIme is up | 16:59 |
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| hongbin_ | All. thanks for joining hte meeting | 16:59 |
| hongbin_ | The next meeting is next week at the same time | 16:59 |
| hongbin_ | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| Kennan | adrian_otto: maybe throw your points in ML | 16:59 |
| hongbin_ | Oh, I cannot end the meeting | 16:59 |
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| hongbin | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 17:00:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-05-17-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-05-17-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-05-17-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | hongbin: you can use addchair command I think ) | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 17:01:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:02 |
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| vakovalchuk | o/ | 17:02 |
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| oshykhkerimov_ | o/ | 17:02 |
| lexplua | o/ | 17:02 |
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| DmytroDovbii | hi, folks | 17:03 |
| tlashchova | o/ | 17:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | o/ | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | We only have one topic and 1 action item from the last meeting and they're basically the same — discuss heat convergence testing with murano | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Heat Convergence | 17:07 |
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| Nikolay_St | unfortunately I have no time for it during last week :( | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: do you have any updates on the topic? | 17:07 |
| Nikolay_St | was busy with testing and agent patches | 17:07 |
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| Nikolay_St | sorry, folks ;( | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | as far as I see — last time we agreed to enable it by default on our CI tests | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok, let's move this to the next week. | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I also think we should add a bp or a bug for this work | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: which one is more appropriate, what do you think? | 17:09 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: let's start with bp | 17:10 |
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| Nikolay_St | finally it's something new to us | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, feels more natural, since nothing is yet broken )) | 17:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #action Nikolay_St verify that murano works with enabled convergence and switch our Murano CI to use this feature | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb Create a convergence-related blueprint | 17:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's split the tasks =) | 17:13 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, the convergence thing is not urgent, but it's better to have it fixed preempively =) | 17:13 |
| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: yeap | 17:13 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | If someone hasn't noticed yet — our client/dashboard gates are currently broken by a small change in horizon | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1582816 | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582816 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "ModalBackdropMixin imposes empty init method" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kirill Zaitsev (kzaitsev) | 17:15 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | here's the bug and the fix | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | We've also haven't looked for quite some time at our backports (although we've agreed to do that regularily). blame's on me =) | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Let's get back to that next week | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | during austin summit stable maint team showed a couple of neat tools they (neutron as far as I remember) contributed to openstack/releases repo | 17:18 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | time to try those out. | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb scedule a backport review session for the next community meeting with a list of those backports | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok. I'm out of news and topics to bring up. =) | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | If anyone has anything to add — now's the time | 17:20 |
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| Nikolay_St | oh | 17:22 |
| Nikolay_St | I have | 17:22 |
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| Nikolay_St | zhu_rong worked hard on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/murano+branch:master+topic:bp/separate-service-broker-from-murano | 17:23 |
| Nikolay_St | probably we can review at least the few first patches in the chain | 17:23 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: yeah, I'm going through the review queue of the patches =) | 17:27 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | if there are no more topics to discuss — I'm going to end the meeting early today. let's wait 5 more minutes though. | 17:28 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | catherineD: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 19:00 |
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| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 19:00:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-05-17-17.01.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-05-17-17.01.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-05-17-17.01.log.html | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 19:01:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:01 |
| rockyg | o/ | 19:01 |
| andrey-mp | o/ | 19:01 |
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| luzC | o/ | 19:02 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:02 |
| catherineD | Hello I just end someone else meeting (murano) hope it is OK ... no activities for the last 10 mins | 19:02 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-05-17 | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | luzC: Welcome | 19:03 |
| catherineD | to RefStack meeting ... | 19:03 |
| luzC | thanks Catherine | 19:04 |
| luzC | :D | 19:04 |
| catherineD | Except for rockyg: I think we all have met luzC: at Austin | 19:04 |
| rockyg | Oh, darn! | 19:04 |
| rockyg | Next time! | 19:04 |
| catherineD | luzC: is from Intel Brazil | 19:04 |
| rockyg | kewl! | 19:05 |
| luzC | intel us actually | 19:05 |
| catherineD | hope the time is OK for luzC: | 19:05 |
| catherineD | oh sorry | 19:05 |
| catherineD | luzC: what time zone for you? | 19:05 |
| catherineD | #topic Product registration | 19:06 |
| luzC | central time... I'm in San Antonio, TX | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: thx for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315743/ | 19:07 |
| catherineD | #link everyone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315743/ | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | #topic Vendor Guidelines | 19:08 |
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| catherineD | #action catherineD: will submit patch for the REST API | 19:09 |
| catherineD | and may table definition if needed | 19:09 |
| andrey-mp | good :) | 19:09 |
| pvaneck | i started separating vendor UI and product UI. will submit patches with andrey as co-author | 19:09 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: Allow passing of a custom guideline URL in report page UI | 19:09 |
| dwalleck | o/ sorry I'm late | 19:10 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: thx for joinning | 19:10 |
| catherineD | agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-05-17 | 19:10 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: could you give an update on item 2.3 | 19:11 |
| pvaneck | so i worked on this to get a prototype, and the issue im running into with UI-only custom guidelines is CORS blocking js from accessing specified external files. | 19:11 |
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| pvaneck | apprently you can also use JSONP requests to bypass CORS, but the hosting server would have to support JSONP callbacks | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: what do you think? | 19:13 |
| pvaneck | so it seems like the refstack API server would have to be involved somehow | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: and that is what we do not want right? | 19:14 |
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| pvaneck | i dont know what we want. I'm just saying UI-only custom guideline passing isn't really feasible with CORS restrictions | 19:15 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: its not good to involve API server. but I don't have solutions right now... | 19:16 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: what are our options .. since we have already decided to coloacte both API and UI | 19:17 |
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| andrey-mp | pvaneck: does refstack server support JSONP? | 19:18 |
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| catherineD | would it be the same issues when we allow custom guidelines? | 19:18 |
| pvaneck | andrey-mp: don't believe so | 19:19 |
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| dwalleck | That should be a framework thing. I've enabled CORS for APIs before, but not with any Python framework | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: no. custom guidelines will be handled by API server | 19:19 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: ic | 19:19 |
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| catherineD | If RefStack server does not support JSONP ... then there is no other alternative then? | 19:21 |
| pvaneck | doesnt matter if refstack server supports JSONP | 19:21 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: it is a strange solution to ask API server to download something )) | 19:22 |
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| pvaneck | we just cant expect servers that host arbitrary guidelines to always support jsonp | 19:22 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: agree | 19:22 |
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| andrey-mp | if we have problem that can't be solved at this 'layer' we should move one layer 'up'.... | 19:23 |
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| andrey-mp | I mean that maybe we can discuss another way to view test results against custom guideline | 19:24 |
| catherineD | May I suggest that we move on for now and revisit this topic later or in #refstack if we run out of time ... | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | so ultimately, the refstack server will be the one making the external request to get the JSON? | 19:24 |
| andrey-mp | for example: user registers own guideline and then views test results against it | 19:24 |
| andrey-mp | pvaneck: yes. like it does for DefCore gudelines | 19:25 |
| catherineD | I really want to doscuss topic 4 since both luzC: and dwalleck: are here | 19:25 |
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| andrey-mp | ok. lets move on | 19:26 |
| catherineD | let me jump to topic #4 | 19:26 |
| catherineD | #topic refstack-client | 19:27 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: and luzC: I think you have a list of things for refstack-client improvement | 19:27 |
| catherineD | that we did not have a chance to discuss at the summit | 19:28 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: I have some thoughts that I'm still fleshing out, but I can share | 19:28 |
| catherineD | sure please | 19:28 |
| dwalleck | slowrie and I were helping with the new 'tempest run' command during mitaka, and one of the things we noticed is that the new runner had some of the capabilities as refstack client | 19:29 |
| catherineD | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-newton-summit line 112 -- 127 | 19:29 |
| andrey-mp | I have :) - refstack-client should have option to define cloud_id and send it to API server | 19:29 |
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| dwalleck | For example, the normalizing of test ids actually exists in os-testr already | 19:29 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: one of the action item for us is to use ostestr | 19:30 |
| dwalleck | And it was a bit of a pain point that I couldn't use my existing Tempest install with refstack. Essentially, we just ended up using the upload results functionality | 19:31 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: reason? | 19:31 |
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| andrey-mp | dwalleck: you can. just make symbolic link to your tempest install directory | 19:31 |
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| andrey-mp | istead of '.tempest' | 19:32 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: The plan (as I understand it) is that os-testr will go away | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: really? | 19:32 |
| andrey-mp | dwalleck: but another question - wich virtual env you want to use... | 19:33 |
| dwalleck | catherineD, andrey-mp: Tempest isn't meant to be used anymore uninstalled. The command line experience now expects Tempest to be an installed package | 19:33 |
| catherineD | Matt joined our refstack meeting last week and I thought using ostesr was the recommendation | 19:33 |
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| dwalleck | But is creating a virtualenv something refstack client should really be worried about? Right now it does a lot of work | 19:34 |
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| dwalleck | catherineD: ostestr would be a good short term solution until tempest run is done. They both use the same logic internally to handle test ids | 19:35 |
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| andrey-mp | dwalleck: refstack client runs 'run_tempest.sh' now. and this script creates virtual env | 19:35 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: I run multiple version of refstack-client in one server .. using virtual env allow me to do that | 19:35 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: If it is short term we should stick to what we have now | 19:35 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: when do we expect to have "tempest run" ready? | 19:36 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: I asked slowrie. Someone else is on the task, but it's targeted for newton-2 | 19:37 |
| dwalleck | I think mtreinish put it at the top of the list of OpenStack QA priorities | 19:37 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: in that case .. I do not see a reason for us to update to ostestr ? | 19:37 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: thanks for the info | 19:38 |
| catherineD | back to the topic of using existing tempest | 19:38 |
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| dwalleck | catherineD: The high level idea I had was to better align with the Tempest cli | 19:39 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: I am all for that | 19:39 |
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| dwalleck | Integrating Tempest run and using Tempest workspaces | 19:39 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: that is a goal after newton-2? | 19:40 |
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| dwalleck | catherineD: That was my suggestion. But yes, we couldn't finalize anything until the feature is done. I brought up the question now to see if there was any interest | 19:41 |
| dwalleck | That way during the Tempest Run development, RefStack client could be kept in mind | 19:41 |
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| dwalleck | Or else find out if everyone thought if things are fine as is :-) | 19:41 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: defintely is our interest to align with Tempest but still being able to keep refstack-client's funtions and feature | 19:42 |
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| andrey-mp | as mtreinish we must use ostestr | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: definitely a spec or prototype would help | 19:42 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: but if it is going away in newton-2 .. why should we upgrade for short term? | 19:43 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: I totally agree with you with regards to functions and features | 19:43 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: I think that we should ask mtreinish why we should use tool that is going away... | 19:44 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: good idea .. will do that | 19:44 |
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| dwalleck | os-testr should be a drop in replacement for testr | 19:44 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: we use run_tempest | 19:44 |
| catherineD | which use testr of course | 19:45 |
| dwalleck | But the point was that since os-testr/tempest run handles normalizing test ids, then that's a problem refstack shouldn't have to worry about | 19:45 |
| andrey-mp | ostestr uses testr | 19:45 |
| andrey-mp | (as I know) | 19:45 |
| dwalleck | ostestr subprocesses out to testr. It just does some magic with test lists and other capabilities first | 19:46 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: agree the upgrade for short term should hava a very compelling reason other than dedup | 19:46 |
| andrey-mp | dwalleck: do you know why ostestr goes away? and what next tool for use? | 19:47 |
| dwalleck | andrey-mp: I shouldn't say it's going away. I'm sure it will still exist. The built-in tempest run command is going to be the default way to run Tempest tests | 19:48 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: OK we will check with mtreinish | 19:48 |
| dwalleck | I don't want to eat up too much of the meeting time. Would it make sense for me to write up a short list of possible improvements (with justifications) and then discuss if they make sense? | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: sure a spec or prototype code (like what andrey-mp: did in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281679/ for UI model) would really help | 19:50 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: align with Tempest is our goal too ... so thank for bring up the topic | 19:50 |
| rockyg | dwalleck, ++ | 19:50 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: will do, thanks! | 19:50 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: Thank YOU! | 19:51 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:51 |
| catherineD | #topic Vendor/Product related UI | 19:51 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: any update? | 19:51 |
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| hogepodge | o/ sorry for being late. | 19:51 |
| pvaneck | as stated earlier, i already began splitting it out. i will have patches up later | 19:51 |
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| rockyg | hi, hogepodge! | 19:52 |
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| catherineD | Hi hogepodge: we just discussed that os-testr is a short term solution ... we need to check | 19:52 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: thank you | 19:53 |
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| hogepodge | Ok, I'll catch the backlog | 19:53 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: we need to check with mtreinish ... | 19:54 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: regarding refstack-client to allow passing in cloud-id | 19:54 |
| catherineD | I thought that we have that option already? | 19:55 |
| hogepodge | oomichi is new ptl so him too | 19:55 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: ok | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | catherineD: are you asking if ostestr is going away? | 19:56 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: we don't have such option. we discussed to introduce this option. | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | I can say ostestr isn't going anywhere | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | mtreinish: yes dwalleck: said that it will be replaced with tempest run | 19:56 |
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| mtreinish | we are working on a tempest run command which will be similar to ostestr but have tempest specific knowledge and be aware of tempest specifics | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | but the ostestr workflow will always work | 19:57 |
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| mtreinish | catherineD: this is the in progress spec for that effort: https://review.openstack.org/269934 | 19:57 |
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| rockyg | thanks, mtreinish! | 19:58 |
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| catherineD | dwalleck: indicate earlier in this meeting that we should upgrade to use tempest run when it is available in newton-2 .. | 19:59 |
| mtreinish | catherineD: you can do that, and ight make certain things easier, but it's not a requirement to do that | 20:00 |
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| catherineD | I was wondering why should we upgrade not to ostestr and then again to tempest run | 20:00 |
| catherineD | not --> now | 20:00 |
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| catherineD | we need to end this meeting | 20:00 |
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| catherineD | could we discuss a bit in #refstack | 20:00 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 20:00:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-05-17-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-05-17-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-05-17-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
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