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| moshele | hi | 13:00 |
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| saneax | Hi folks | 13:00 |
| moshele | anyone for SR-IOV meeting? | 13:00 |
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| wznoinsk | sure | 13:01 |
| saneax | I am here :) moshele | 13:01 |
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| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 19 13:01:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:01 |
| moshele | hi every one | 13:01 |
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| edand | hi | 13:02 |
| skramaja | hello | 13:02 |
| saneax | o/ | 13:02 |
| moshele | #topic agenda | 13:02 |
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| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:02 |
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| moshele | ok so we have some changes to tempest for enabling tempst with direct vnic_type port | 13:03 |
| moshele | this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343294/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335447/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339230/ | 13:05 |
| moshele | please review them | 13:05 |
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| lennyb | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343294/ | 13:05 |
| moshele | it will allow as to test pci migration in tempest | 13:06 |
| moshele | lennyb: it the first on on the list :) | 13:06 |
| saneax | folks, just wanted to know for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331496 what is spec dimitry is talking about | 13:07 |
| moshele | anyone have something to add regarding CI? | 13:07 |
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| moshele | saneax: I think you need a spec for ironic on how to expose port vendor_id and porduct_id in ironic | 13:09 |
| saneax | hmm, we have the tripleo spec, would that not be enough? | 13:09 |
| moshele | saneax: I guess not | 13:10 |
| saneax | ok moshele | 13:10 |
| moshele | saneax: you can ask him on the ironic channel | 13:10 |
| saneax | sure moshele | 13:10 |
| saneax | thanks | 13:10 |
| saneax | moshele, we also are looking forward to have this merged - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279940/ | 13:11 |
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| moshele | saneax: I know :) | 13:11 |
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| saneax | :) | 13:12 |
| moshele | #topic Bug Fixes | 13:12 |
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| moshele | so lbeliveau is on PTO | 13:13 |
| moshele | and I am working on all the comments in the migration patches | 13:13 |
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| moshele | I would like to get some of the patches merged by the end of the month | 13:14 |
| moshele | any PCI/SR-IOV bug I am not aware? | 13:15 |
| moshele | ok let move one | 13:15 |
| moshele | #topic Open Discussion | 13:16 |
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| moshele | anyone have an issue that they want to raise ? | 13:16 |
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| saneax | moshele, yes | 13:17 |
| saneax | We would like to get a bit more details into the sriov testing | 13:18 |
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| moshele | saneax: like what? | 13:18 |
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| saneax | functional testing of sriov automatically via tempest maybe | 13:18 |
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| saneax | I am not really sure, but one of the areas we havent thought yet is testing sriov functionality on tripleo | 13:19 |
| moshele | so for SR-IOV Mellanox CI is running tempest netwroking scenarios with vnic_type direct | 13:20 |
| saneax | ok moshele | 13:20 |
| moshele | see https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/f11e225b0c1f31e0c74d618af33ab80df6cb8ffb/tempest/scenario/manager.py#L180 | 13:20 |
| saneax | thanks | 13:20 |
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| moshele | you will need also an guest image that has SR-IOV driver of the NIC you are using | 13:21 |
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| saneax | ok moshele | 13:21 |
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| saneax | will take a look and maybe then ping you for help, further | 13:22 |
| moshele | our CI is running on physical servers, if you need help or to do knowledge sharing leenyb can help you | 13:22 |
| moshele | lenyb | 13:22 |
| moshele | lennyb | 13:22 |
| saneax | ok that will be great | 13:22 |
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| saneax | we do want to set up a CI for sriov in tripleo | 13:22 |
| saneax | will ping lennyb | 13:23 |
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| moshele | we can help you we our experience on the Mellanox SR-IOV CI | 13:23 |
| saneax | thanks moshele that will be of great help | 13:24 |
| moshele | anything else? | 13:24 |
| saneax | none from me | 13:24 |
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| moshele | thanks everyone | 13:24 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 19 13:24:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-19-13.01.html | 13:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-19-13.01.txt | 13:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-19-13.01.log.html | 13:24 |
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| saneax | thanks all | 13:28 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 19 14:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| shardy | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | bonjour :) | 14:00 |
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| panda | o/ | 14:00 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hi all, who's around? | 14:00 |
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| weshay_mtg | o/ | 14:00 |
| dprince | hi | 14:00 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 14:00 |
| skramaja | hello | 14:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | \o | 14:00 |
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| ccamacho | hi o/ | 14:00 |
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| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:02 |
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| shardy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:02 |
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| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
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| shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
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| shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
| shardy | So I see one one-off item from EmilienM, anyone have anything else to add? | 14:03 |
| shardy | #topic one off agenda items | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | my item should be quick, I just want people interested by service validation to read my email and give feedback about the proposal. | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | the idea is to "stop a deployment if something fails in a step" | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | so we save time for deployers and give feedback on what failed | 14:04 |
| ccamacho | shardy I added the item in the last meeting. | 14:04 |
| ccamacho | sorry.. | 14:04 |
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| ccamacho | EmilienM++ I like that idea to save time | 14:04 |
| rhallisey | hi | 14:05 |
| shardy | EmilienM: I like the idea of fail-fast, but it'd be kinda nice if the validation steps weren't combined with the puppet configuration? | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | I made it on purpose | 14:05 |
| shardy | I thought that was the approach SpinalStack took with serverspec, or am I remembering incorrectly? | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | so the validation is as close as possible with our profiles | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | shardy: we used another approach in SpinalStack with serverspec | 14:06 |
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| ccamacho | might at least a --fail-fast option work? | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | the idea here is to make the validation within our profiles | 14:06 |
| shardy | EmilienM: Ok, I guess I was thinking about it differently, where a given service template has an expected validation, regardless of the tool used | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | so we don't have to wire validation scripts with our roles | 14:06 |
| dprince | EmilienM: I think I would like to consider keeping the validations within the heat composable services | 14:06 |
| shardy | EmilienM: I'm thinking particularly of folks interested in plugging in non-puppet tools (such as ceph-ansible which I know some folks have interest in reusing) | 14:07 |
| shardy | I guess that's all dependent on containers anyway, just thinking ahead | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | they can write their validation in ceph-ansible itself! | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | my PoC is just for Puppet profiles | 14:07 |
| dprince | EmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174150/ | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | but anyone plugged to TripleO (ie: ceph-ansible) could validate their own way | 14:07 |
| dprince | shardy: ^^ | 14:07 |
| dprince | that was our initial attempt at generic "script" style validations a while back... | 14:07 |
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| jokke_ | EmilienM: ++ | 14:08 |
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| EmilienM | I think we should make validation as close as possible from our profiles | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | whatever tool (puppet ansible, etc) | 14:08 |
| gfidente | yeah I was a bit confused as well about how this can work togeher with the tooling shadower is working on | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | we just need to fail fast | 14:08 |
| shardy | dprince: Yeah, that was the pattern I was thinking of | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | EmilienM: makes sense that the component that defines what and how also validates that the outcome was what intended | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: it's different, post deployment | 14:08 |
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| dprince | EmilienM: that works for single node validation framework I think. But what about multi-node stuff? | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | and this is not the same validation | 14:08 |
| shardy | gfidente: Yeah, I don't think it can, because the ansible based validations aren't integrated with the heat deployment steps | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | my stuff is really low level validation | 14:08 |
| shardy | that's more about pre-flight-checks I think | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | I don't aim to test APIs | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | or boot a VM | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | etc | 14:09 |
| dprince | a validations "framework" will have all of the above. pre-during-and post validations | 14:09 |
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| EmilienM | anyway, I produced a PoC based on operators feedback | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | feel free to use the ML thread to comment and give feedback | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | and if you have a better idea, please submit it | 14:10 |
| shardy | EmilienM: ack, thanks, lets follow up on the ML :) | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yup | 14:10 |
| shardy | ccamacho: you had a question about tripleo-ui? | 14:10 |
| shardy | jtomasek: Can you provide an update on the status there? | 14:10 |
| dprince | EmilienM: do we think validations is more important right now than finishing the composable services work and composable roles? | 14:10 |
| ccamacho | yeahp, a quick one. Is anyone using it? | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | dprince: not at all. I just implemented a 5min idea | 14:11 |
| dprince | EmilienM: perhaps this is a next release feature | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | dprince: as you can see, the patch is 10LOC | 14:11 |
| shardy | ccamacho: AFAIK it's blocked on the mistral API landing, which is still in-progress, but hopefully jtomasek can confirm | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | dprince: for sure, at this stage of the cycle. | 14:11 |
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| EmilienM | dprince: I'm preparing next Summit ;-) | 14:11 |
| ccamacho | shardy ack, I was reading docs and found lot of empty spots there.. That's why I was asking | 14:12 |
| jtomasek | shardy: I am happy to answer anything about TripleO UI, I am currently at the meeting, so I am slow to respond. Which part specifically is the concern? | 14:12 |
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| shardy | jtomasek: when folks can start using it on upstream builds | 14:12 |
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| shardy | jtomasek: e.g when can we get it integrated with the undercloud install, are we blocked on the remaining mistral patches? | 14:12 |
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| shardy | e.g the actions/workflows going into tripleo-common | 14:13 |
| ccamacho | jtomasek, about using it and testing it in in upstream tripleo | 14:13 |
| jtomasek | shardy: no blockers really, biggest obstacle now is resolve the rdo packaging of GUI | 14:13 |
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| jtomasek | shardy: the work on integrating it with undercloud starts this week too | 14:13 |
| ccamacho | jtomasek, but from source, should work right? | 14:13 |
| dprince | jtomasek: do you have someone working on a puppet module to install it? | 14:13 |
| jtomasek | ccamacho: yes | 14:13 |
| jtomasek | dprince: flfuchs is about to start on it, but any help is welcome and would deffinitely speed up the process | 14:14 |
| ccamacho | jtomasek, ack as should be nice to have some puppet automation for that, nice! | 14:14 |
| dprince | jtomasek: cool. | 14:14 |
| shardy | jtomasek: Ok, sounds good, shout if we can provide any help and/or test/review things | 14:14 |
| ccamacho | shardy++ | 14:14 |
| jtomasek | shardy, ccamacho, dprince: thanks! | 14:15 |
| shardy | Any other one-off items before we move on? | 14:15 |
| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:15 |
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| shardy | So, related to bugs, jpich started a discussion on the ML about the various launchpad projects | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | dprince: can you add the tag for your hieradata bugs ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?field.tag=composable-roles | 14:16 |
| shardy | in particular there seems to be a redundant one related to tripleo-common we can probably remove | 14:16 |
| gfidente | sorry guys, one step back to one-off, is anybody looking into why mitaka/ci fails? | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: wasn't it the gnocchi thing? | 14:16 |
| shardy | gfidente: shall we cover that in the CI section? | 14:17 |
| gfidente | ack | 14:17 |
| shardy | Do folks have any opinions about the launchpad tracking? | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: nevermind it looks like something else, it fails after 15 min | 14:17 |
| dprince | EmilienM: tag should be 'composable-services' but whatever | 14:17 |
| shardy | Personally I'd rather have one for most tripleo things, e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo | 14:18 |
| shardy | vs lots and lots of LP projects to manage | 14:18 |
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| dprince | shardy: I fine to file bugs for things | 14:18 |
| shardy | it's easier from a release tracking/milestones perspective if we're going to release everything each milestone IMO | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | dprince: yeah, please add it to the 2 bugs | 14:18 |
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| jokke_ | shardy: taken the number of repos, I'd prefer single track with tags | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | dprince, shardy: +1 for launchpad/bugs | 14:19 |
| dprince | EmilienM; already done | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | dprince: ++ | 14:19 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo-common https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo-ui https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo-validations https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo-quickstart all also exist | 14:19 |
| shardy | I'd suggest we remove the tripleo-common one, and probably the tripleo-validations one? | 14:20 |
| gfidente | yeah I was going to say that we probably want something in between | 14:20 |
| shardy | It's probably fine to have a separate one for the UI at this point though I think | 14:20 |
| gfidente | a few projects seem better tracked with their own project but I wouldn't split all | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | shardy: what's in on those two? (sorry for my ignorance still) | 14:20 |
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| shardy | jokke_: Not much, hence my proposal to remove them :) | 14:21 |
| shardy | shadower: any thoughts re the validations one? | 14:21 |
| shardy | Ok, well we can follow up on the ML anyway | 14:22 |
| dprince | shardy: +1 on removing the tripleo-common and tripleo-validations bugs | 14:22 |
| shardy | any other bugs related things to mention today? | 14:22 |
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| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:23 |
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| shardy | So, we had the n2 release, but I was thinking we're probably overdue a release of the stable branches | 14:23 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: we can take care of it this week | 14:23 |
| shardy | coolsvap: Were you planning to propose those, or shall I go ahead and do it? | 14:23 |
| coolsvap | shardy: i can do that | 14:24 |
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| shardy | coolsvap: Ok, thanks - perhaps you can ping me and EmilienM when you've posted the patch and we can review | 14:24 |
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| coolsvap | shardy: sure | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | but we need to make sure Mitaka jobs are working | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | (currently broken) | 14:25 |
| shardy | Yeah, obviously we'll need to get a good promote before we can release | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | yup we'll take care of it ^ | 14:25 |
| shardy | ++ Ok, sounds good, thanks :) | 14:25 |
| shardy | #topic CI | 14:25 |
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| EmilienM | so Mitaka job looks broken | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | http://logs.openstack.org/25/342725/3/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-ha/3dd5eb0/console.html#_2016-07-19_13_48_29_492778 | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | ERROR:dlrn:cmd failed. See logs at: /opt/stack/new/delorean/data/repos/f1/13/f113c9e4103b7ed593c74c2c8517363843e99ed0_969c6c49/ | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | One issue is with building delorean rpms for THT mitaka and liberty - asked apevec to look at it, but still haven't received a response from him yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1604039 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604039 in tripleo "CI: delorean build of tripleo-heat-templates fails because wrong spec" [High,Triaged] | 14:26 |
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| EmilienM | INFO:dlrn:Skipping notify email to ['jslagle@redhat.com', 'dprince@redhat.com'] | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, ^^ | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | slagle and dprince must have received an email :) | 14:26 |
| weshay_mtg | can we add folks to that list? | 14:26 |
| * dprince isn't getting emails about this | 14:26 | |
| bnemec | *Skipping* notify email... | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | yeah :) | 14:26 |
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| shardy | I guess we can try reproducing this locally with STABLE_RELEASE=mitaka tripleo.sh --delorean-build openstack/foo | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | shardy, for tht | 14:27 |
| shardy | Actually we'll need to do --repo-setup with REPO_PREFIX set too | 14:27 |
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| panda | why is it skipping ? | 14:27 |
| shardy | https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev | 14:28 |
| derekh | panda: it skips in CI because we don't have a mail server configured, and we don't want it in CI | 14:28 |
| shardy | current-tripleo promoted 2d ago, but it's been 13 days since RDO promotion, some of which look tripleo related | 14:28 |
| derekh | but it should be configured on the trunk server running delorean | 14:28 |
| shardy | e.g the gnocci db sync issue and a couple of others | 14:28 |
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| sshnaidm | And all periodic jobs failed tonight because: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1604380 | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604380 in tripleo "CI: nodes registrtion in periodic jobs fail because of bug in old pecan (fixed in 1.0.5)" [High,New] | 14:29 |
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| EmilienM | yeah, same for Puppet CI | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | we have the same issue, good to know :) | 14:29 |
| trown | the new build of pecan is wating on sync in RDO | 14:29 |
| shardy | sshnaidm: ack, thanks for pointing that out | 14:29 |
| trown | will hit at 16:12 UTC | 14:30 |
| weshay_mtg | ya. and rdo ci :) | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | trown: excellent news | 14:30 |
| shardy | can we add a periodic_cistatus page to tripleo.org? | 14:30 |
| shardy | I would find that useful | 14:30 |
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| shardy | weshay_mtg: Do you have any updates re the status of third-party CI? | 14:30 |
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| shardy | IIRC you were looking to enable upgrades and trunk deployments on RHEL? | 14:31 |
| derekh | shardy: sshnaidm might be able to get his status page there | 14:31 |
| shardy | (If we're getting RHEL coverage I'll abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340503/) | 14:31 |
| shardy | derekh: Yeah that'd be good | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | it might be helpful to sync with the work harlowja is doing with the oslobot | 14:31 |
| weshay_mtg | shardy, ya.. apetrich has a few patches required merged as of yesterday, now we're testing and getting some inconsistent installs atm.. | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | that's providing status of all periodic oslo integration tests to the channel | 14:32 |
| weshay_mtg | attila also just went on pto, so that wil slow down the 3rd party rhel gate.. by a few days | 14:32 |
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| shardy | weshay_mtg: ack, Ok no worries, thanks for the update :) | 14:32 |
| shardy | derekh: So, what's up with rh1, have you OVB-ified it yet? | 14:33 |
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| derekh | shardy: zoli is working on it, he only started on thursday and is hitting problems with foreman (don't ask) | 14:33 |
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| shardy | derekh: Ok - anything you need help with, or is it just a matter of more time? | 14:34 |
| derekh | shardy: anyways I've been helping him work through them, progress is been made but still at the early stages | 14:34 |
| derekh | shardy: time at the moment but if he hits any brick walls others can assist we'll pick people | 14:35 |
| shardy | derekh: Ok, sounds good, thanks for the update :) | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | yeah, pick us if needed | 14:35 |
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| derekh | EmilienM: will do | 14:36 |
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| shardy | Ok, anything else re CI before we continue? | 14:37 |
| sshnaidm | However, can anybody from RDO people help with mitaka/liberty delorean fails of tht? it's already 2 days long https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1604039 | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604039 in tripleo "CI: delorean build of tripleo-heat-templates fails because wrong spec" [High,Triaged] | 14:37 |
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| sshnaidm | I'd like to be sure that somebody cares about it | 14:37 |
| shardy | sshnaidm: I'd jump into #rdo and chat with apevec and trown about it | 14:38 |
| shardy | #topic Specs | 14:38 |
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| sshnaidm | shardy, great, thanks | 14:38 |
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| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:39 |
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| shardy | It'd be good to review the dpdk, sr-iov, Ironic, lightweight-HA and validations specs if anyone has time | 14:39 |
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| shardy | It'd be good to land them if we expect the features to get done for newton | 14:40 |
| shardy | https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-3 | 14:40 |
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| bnemec | Would like more feedback on the idea of having a policies section: https://review.openstack.org/339236 | 14:40 |
| shardy | That's the feature list I'm working to planning for the n-3 release | 14:40 |
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| shardy | bnemec: +1, I'm fine with it, and I see you replied to my comment re -docs vs -specs | 14:41 |
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| bnemec | shardy: Cool, thanks | 14:42 |
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| shardy | #link http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2016-07/msg00724.html | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: will look after the meeting | 14:43 |
| shardy | I sent that re the feature-freeze process after we disussed it last week | 14:43 |
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| shardy | feel free to reply on the ML if there are any comments | 14:43 |
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| shardy | basically we can probably land some things as FFEs but we can't rely on it for the big backlog of n-3 targetted features | 14:44 |
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| shardy | #topic open discussion | 14:44 |
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| shardy | Anyone have anything else they would like to add? | 14:44 |
| trown | I have a question | 14:44 |
| trown | who would like to be the package maintainer for os-*-config repos in RDO? :) | 14:45 |
| EmilienM | I have an FYI: I dropped the weekly composable-roles meeting since we moved all puppet code. Remaining work does not require meeting imho, let me know if you disagree | 14:45 |
| trown | currently there is nobody listed in https://github.com/redhat-openstack/rdoinfo/blob/master/rdo.yml | 14:45 |
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| dprince | EmilienM: no need for a meeting now I think. Lets drop it | 14:46 |
| trown | nobody? | 14:46 |
| shardy | trown: I'm happy to do it if nobody else is keen | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | dprince: done | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | I'd like to poke a bit of people's feelings | 14:47 |
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| trown | shardy: k, I am getting pinged by people to merge https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1678/1 but wanted to have an actual maintainer for those because I do not totally understand them | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | The ceph-ansible work towards Ocata. Are folks comfy with that or is there something we should consider on that work? | 14:48 |
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| jokke_ | I know there is quite a bit of push from the Ceph folks to move to that ansible blop | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | I'm really curious about this work, is it going to kill puppet-ceph usage in tripleo? | 14:48 |
| shardy | jokke_: It's not even been properly discussed yet, I think we'll need a summit session to consider how non-puppet deployments can be integrated into tripleo | 14:48 |
| shardy | EmilienM: There are folks who don't want to maintain both puppet-ceph and ceph-ansible | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | right | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | shardy: That's why I wanted to bring the discussion to people's minds | 14:49 |
| trown | shardy: so in the short term if you wanted to do a sanity check on that review, that will be great... and maybe I can put you down in rdoinfo until you can appoint a replacement? | 14:49 |
| bnemec | trown: slagle and I are the maintainers of the fedora package. | 14:49 |
| shardy | so they want to wire in ceph-ansible to tripleo - which I think will be possible only after we've got a way to isolate the puppet and ansible configuration (e.g containers) | 14:49 |
| trown | bnemec: ok, can I put you guys down for RDO then? | 14:49 |
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| gfidente | I think that finishing our abstraction to use ansible would be nice, ceph-ansible could be a first consumer of that | 14:50 |
| trown | bnemec: and could you review https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1678/1 :) | 14:50 |
| bnemec | trown: I would be fine with that. | 14:50 |
| dprince | trown: I would like to talk with steve baker on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1603144 | 14:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1603144 in tripleo "older os-collect-config can't be updated or upgraded via heat" [High,Invalid] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b) | 14:50 |
| ccamacho | guys quick question, are CI jobs taking ~+2 hours? | 14:50 |
| ccamacho | maybe it's just me | 14:50 |
| dprince | trown: specifically the implication there might be that we have some os-collect-config code for the reexec that isn't being used I think | 14:50 |
| gfidente | so I'd like a summit session about the more general introduction of ansible as well | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | ccamacho: ~1h40 | 14:50 |
| dprince | trown: and I'd like to get rid of that code anyways... | 14:51 |
| trown | dprince: ya he is on PTO, and people are bugging me to merge that... I dont totally understand what is going on and so I am not comfortable merging it myself | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | ccamacho: see http://tripleo.org/cistatus.html | 14:51 |
| ccamacho | EmilienM ack, thanks! | 14:51 |
| shardy | FWIW I did a little PoC with one of ceph-ansible folks: https://github.com/hardys/heat-ceph-templates/blob/master/mon_cluster.yaml#L61 | 14:51 |
| shardy | It shows that we can wire in ansible roles in a similar way to how we deploy puppet modules | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | so we're going to mix puppet & ansible within a same deployment? interesting | 14:51 |
| shardy | but it doesn't solve how we drive a mixture of two tools in t-h-t | 14:51 |
| shardy | EmilienM: I would prefer that we didn't, but it's what some users are asking for | 14:51 |
| trown | dprince: so as long as we dont think it is totally broken, I think we should merge it, and discuss with sbaker when he is back from PTO | 14:52 |
| shardy | I think it only really makes sense when we have a fully containerized overcloud tho tbh | 14:52 |
| dprince | shardy: I'd like to treat the Ceph ansible as perhaps an opt-int (3rd party) feature | 14:52 |
| shardy | so we probably need to focus on that, and ensure the abstractions around puppet are sufficient to enable alternative tooling to plug in | 14:52 |
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| shardy | dprince: Sure, I don't think anyone is proposing changing any defaults at this point | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | EmilienM: that's why I wanted to ask if people are confortable with the idea in principle ... 'cause there is definitely push for it but I'd like to keep the expectations realistic | 14:52 |
| marios | dprince: do you disagree with the packaging fixup there? | 14:53 |
| shardy | only figuring out if/how this may be possible to integrate | 14:53 |
| dprince | shardy: specifically because it may cost some integration features. Specifically, the ability to configure advanced things with extra_config | 14:53 |
| marios | dprince: i mean for sbaker SIGKILL on occ | 14:53 |
| shardy | dprince: Yeah, I think it's understood that all *ExtraConfig hieradata overrides will break | 14:53 |
| dprince | marios: I haven't tried it. It just made me curious | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | what is missing in puppet-ceph (existing setup), that we have in ceph-ansible? | 14:53 |
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| EmilienM | I think the goal here is to "make Ceph deployment better" | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | so let's figure why we need ceph-ansible? | 14:54 |
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| marios | dprince: ok. apparently it was done downstream k already. but we can discuss on the bug/offline if you like | 14:54 |
| dprince | EmilienM: exactly, I'm not sure there is anything that can't be done with puppet-ceph as well. Perhaps both implementations can live with parity | 14:54 |
| bnemec | EmilienM: It's because that's where the ceph team is making all of their improvements, so unless we want to duplicate them we have to use it. | 14:54 |
| marios | dprince: (downstream _in_ K, kilo i mean) | 14:54 |
| shardy | EmilienM: folks are invested in ceph-ansible as "the" tool, they're not willing to contribute to puppet-ceph as well AFAICT | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | EmilienM: iiuc the push is mostly just about the maintenance overhead of two of them | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | reasoning why there is the ceph-ansible in first place is something I can't answer | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:55 |
| dprince | I still think there may be a community around puppet-ceph though | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | after all our efforts in puppet-ceph | 14:55 |
| gfidente | well there is one for sure, fuel | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | lol we'll just kill it | 14:55 |
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| gfidente | but I suggest we don't look at the two things together | 14:56 |
| dprince | perhaps even a larger one than the ansible-ceph thing. I don't know... but I think pulling the rug on puppet-ceph would be premature | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | the last thing I want to see is that we spend lots of time to get it integrated and receive -2 for principle reasons | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: right, they overlap a lot | 14:56 |
| gfidente | testing tripleo ability to use ansible can be done as a pre-requisite | 14:56 |
| gfidente | risks of migration to ceph-ansible has pros and cons I suppose and it's not same problem | 14:56 |
| * bnemec thinks we should just let the Ceph installer install Ceph and drop the tripleo deployment of it entirely | 14:56 | |
| dprince | jokke_: As a replacement for puppet-ceph at this point I would likely -2 it | 14:56 |
| * bnemec also wants a unicorn for his birthday | 14:57 | |
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| dprince | jokke_: as an opt-in (live beside) it may be okay though | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: yes - 100% agree | 14:57 |
| shardy | bnemec: The problem is folks want hyper-converged deployments, not only standalone external ceph clusters | 14:57 |
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| shardy | if it was all external we could just drive ansible via a mistral action or something | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: we have this integration with nova/cinder/glance/gnocchi that we don't need puppet-ceph or ceph-ansible | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | dprince: thanks ... I'll get that feedback to the expectations loop | 14:57 |
| gfidente | EmilienM, well that's the point of ceph-ansible | 14:58 |
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| gfidente | we don't need puppet-ceph to configure ceph, we can use ceph-ansible for that | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: what, it also configure nova.conf, etc? | 14:58 |
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| gfidente | but we'll continue to use puppet-nova for the nova configuration | 14:58 |
| shardy | Ok, well I guess this is the start of a longer discussion - jokke_ do you want to start a ML thread or shall I? | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | shardy: either way is fine by me | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | my point is: we could use ansible-ceph to configure Ceph and puppet-nova,glance,cinder,... to configure services like nova,glance,cinder,... to use ceph backend | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | I can add it to my todo list | 14:58 |
| gfidente | this said, don't misinterpret me as I would myself push back ceph-ansible only to when we discussed the integration of ansbile successfully | 14:59 |
| shardy | Ok, I'll do it after the meeting & people can add their thoughts | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | shardy: 1 min left | 14:59 |
| gfidente | as I don't see technical reasons for ceph-ansible today | 14:59 |
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| shardy | Ok, out of time, thanks all! | 14:59 |
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| shardy | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 19 14:59:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-19-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-19-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-19-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| trown | thanks shardy | 14:59 |
| saneax | thanks all | 14:59 |
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| ccamacho | thanks! | 14:59 |
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| hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 19 16:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-07-19_1600_UTC Today's agenda | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| muralia | Murali Allada | 16:00 |
| vipulnayyar | o/ | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
| mkrai | Madhuri Kumari | 16:00 |
| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:00 |
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| dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:00 |
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| Drago | o/ | 16:01 |
| hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting muralia vipulnayyar adrian_otto mkrai strigazi dane_leblanc Drago | 16:01 |
| rochaporto | Ricardo Rocha | 16:01 |
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| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| hongbin | I have no announcement | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | welcome back hongbin | 16:01 |
| hongbin | Any announcement from others? | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | adrian_otto: Thanks for chairing the last meeting while I am in China | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | you are welcome | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
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| tango__ | o/ | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | None | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Essential Blueprints Review | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:03 |
| strigazi | I'm trying setup the gate job. I'm very close | 16:03 |
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| strigazi | debugging locally | 16:03 |
| strigazi | and madhuri works on swarm | 16:03 |
| mkrai | I am writing the templates | 16:04 |
| mkrai | Which post it this week | 16:04 |
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| strigazi | that's all from me | 16:04 |
| hongbin | mkrai: Thanks. What do you think by creating a dedicated BP for Ironic-swarm? | 16:05 |
| mkrai | Yes that will be good to track | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | one more thing | 16:05 |
| hongbin | Yes, then teh current BP track the Ironic for k8s | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | we build the image using dib | 16:06 |
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| strigazi | there are no elements for fedora 23, only 24 | 16:06 |
| strigazi | I'll setup a job to build fedora 24 for ironic k8s and swarm | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: which docker version in in 24? | 16:07 |
| strigazi | 10 | 16:07 |
| strigazi | 1.10 | 16:07 |
| strigazi | at least this was the last time I checked | 16:07 |
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| mkrai | strigazi, Please let us know when image is uploaded to test swarm too | 16:07 |
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| strigazi | hopefully tomorrow | 16:08 |
| mkrai | cool | 16:08 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto: about the atomic image | 16:08 |
| strigazi | could we upgrade to 24? | 16:08 |
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| strigazi | what tests whould we run? | 16:08 |
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| tango__ | DIB supports 24? | 16:09 |
| strigazi | I tests everything locally for starters | 16:09 |
| strigazi | tango_: yes | 16:09 |
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| tango__ | It would be good to move to 24 then | 16:09 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339681/ | 16:10 |
| hongbin | strigazi: I think the ironic bay could use 24, while the atomic bay can stay at 23 | 16:10 |
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| hongbin | Unless there is a requirement that all bays should use 24 | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: why stay with an older version? | 16:10 |
| strigazi | There is not, but since it's out | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | if a newer one works, and does not exhibit any stability issues | 16:11 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: Just because atomic doesn't seem to have 24 | 16:11 |
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| tango__ | I can give it a shot to build Atomic with 24 | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | do we know when 24 is scheduled to land? | 16:11 |
| strigazi | landed a few days ago | 16:11 |
| tango__ | if everything works, I will upload Atomic 24 to the Fedora site, then users can choose | 16:11 |
| hongbin | oh, that is good | 16:11 |
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| rochaporto | seems to be there: https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html | 16:12 |
| hongbin | It looks everyone want to upgrade to 24? | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | Any opposing point of view? | 16:13 |
| tango__ | This seems to make sense | 16:13 |
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| muralia | +1 | 16:13 |
| hongbin | #agreed upgrade atomic bay to feodra 24 | 16:14 |
| hongbin | OK. any other comment in this topic? | 16:14 |
| tango__ | Thanks rochaporto for pointer | 16:14 |
| hongbin | 2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:15 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:15 |
| tango__ | The section for bay and Mesos are under review. | 16:15 |
| tango__ | Got some good feedback, thanks everyone for the reviews | 16:15 |
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| tango__ | Next I will consolidate the TLS doc into the user guide, updating as needed | 16:16 |
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| tango__ | I guess we will need a section for DCOS when the patches start coming | 16:16 |
| tango__ | that's all for now | 16:16 |
| hongbin | Thanks tango__ | 16:17 |
| hongbin | 3. COE Bay Drivers (jamie_h, muralia) | 16:17 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers | 16:17 |
| muralia | I've been investigating how to use stevedore and been doing some coding around that. i should have a patch soon. | 16:17 |
| muralia | for the drivers. | 16:18 |
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| muralia | one thing to think about is the contract the drivers need to follow. | 16:18 |
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| muralia | in the driver spec, we talked about the drivers being responsible for making heat calls and actually being responsible for all bay CRUD methods. | 16:19 |
| muralia | thats not the case right now. | 16:19 |
| muralia | so thats some work that needs to be done. | 16:19 |
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| muralia | im working on that as well. | 16:20 |
| muralia | thats it for me. | 16:20 |
| hongbin | Thanks muralia . Others, any question for muralia ? | 16:21 |
| hongbin | 4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi) | 16:21 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide\ | 16:21 |
| strigazi | I've pushed instructions for debian and ubuntu | 16:22 |
| tango__ | Nice | 16:22 |
| strigazi | and made a few updates to reflect the current state of the project, x509keypair support and trust_domain_name instead of id | 16:23 |
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| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343283/ | 16:23 |
| strigazi | The instructions are pretty much the same, the difference is that it's tested | 16:24 |
| strigazi | that's all | 16:24 |
| hongbin | strigazi: A question. Besides ubuntu, any other OS you plan to add? | 16:25 |
| strigazi | All projects support, suse, fedora and ubuntu. Many of them debian as well | 16:25 |
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| hongbin | I guess we already have suse and rdo? | 16:26 |
| strigazi | I don't know if it make sense to add anything else. | 16:26 |
| strigazi | yes we do | 16:26 |
| strigazi | http://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/draft/index.html | 16:26 |
| strigazi | here is the list for all projects | 16:26 |
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| hongbin | OK. I worry the size of the OS-distro we need to support | 16:26 |
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| hongbin | Keep it consistent with other projects is good | 16:26 |
| strigazi | most of the instructions are in the common directory | 16:27 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Then I guess we can close the BP after the ubuntu patch is landed? | 16:27 |
| strigazi | yes. I can always add the debconf flavor for debian later | 16:28 |
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| hongbin | strigazi: ack | 16:28 |
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| strigazi | we'll have to check again when the official packages are out | 16:29 |
| strigazi | at the end of the cycle | 16:29 |
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| strigazi | That's all | 16:30 |
| hongbin | Thanks strigazi | 16:30 |
| hongbin | Any comment? | 16:30 |
| hongbin | #topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango) | 16:30 |
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| hongbin | tango__: ^^ | 16:31 |
| tango__ | I attended the Kuryr meeting yesterday | 16:31 |
| tango__ | Their code refactoring is almost complete, just one more patch | 16:31 |
| tango__ | So they should be stable again. | 16:31 |
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| tango__ | They have some initial prototype with CNI for K8s | 16:32 |
| tango__ | patches for that coming soon | 16:32 |
| tango__ | I double checked with them on our integration with Swarm, and they confirmed it should work | 16:33 |
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| tango__ | (the way we are implementing) | 16:33 |
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| tango__ | I am still working on getting the openvswitch in a container. I tried using some of the existing ones from Docker Hub but no luck | 16:34 |
| tango__ | I am now creating our own. | 16:34 |
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| rhallisey | tango__, did you try kolla's? | 16:35 |
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| tango__ | I did, but it requires some Kolla config | 16:36 |
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| tango__ | I just realize we don't have a BP for Swarm Kuryr integration yet, so I will create one now, and add the details we have so far | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | tango__, do you need some custom config? | 16:37 |
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| tango__ | rhallisey: I don't think so, just basic ML2 Openvswitch that talks to the OpenStack Neutron | 16:38 |
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| tango__ | It should look like a normal compute node configuration | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | tango__, ok cool. What you can do is run the container and mount in the config file you need | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | or you can just use the config file kolla generates | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | what you likely hit was the container was looking for you config file in a specific location | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | tango__, don't mean to de rail your meeting, but after your done come ask and #openstack-kolla and I can help you | 16:41 |
| rhallisey | or anyone in the community | 16:41 |
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| hongbin | Thanks tango__ rhallisey | 16:42 |
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| tango___ | sorry, lost connection | 16:42 |
| tango___ | That's all I have | 16:43 |
| hongbin | Any other comment? | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | 1. Provide Discovery Options for Bay Types (Vipul Nayyar) | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-type-discovery-options | 16:43 |
| hongbin | vipulnayyar: ^^ | 16:43 |
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| vipulnayyar | So, I sent the concerned BP on ML to get ideas and suggestions. Nothing much as of now. | 16:44 |
| muralia | +1 for this work. | 16:44 |
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| hongbin | vipulnayyar: I guess you could summarize what you sent in ML so everyone is on the same page? | 16:44 |
| vipulnayyar | As hongbin suggested to me, working on static clustering should be a good idea to start... maybe similar to arguments accepted by etcd | 16:44 |
| vipulnayyar | So, it's about building a discovery service inside magnum, if I understand correctly | 16:45 |
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| vipulnayyar | Etcd does this by static bootstrapping and dynamic discovery, I believe | 16:46 |
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| muralia | yes. this is to replace the public cluster discovery service which we currently use for all bays. | 16:47 |
| muralia | one comment, maybe not do this for swarm yet. we'll just update to 1.12 when its released. | 16:47 |
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| hongbin | sure | 16:48 |
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| vipulnayyar | Thanks, then I'll start with the static method following the etcd model then, if it's alright | 16:48 |
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| muralia | +1 | 16:48 |
| hongbin | vipulnayyar: If you go with the static boostraping approach, you might need to use SoftwareDeployment to statically write down all the IP addresses of master nodes | 16:49 |
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| hongbin | vipulnayyar: I did this in mesos bay to bootstrap the zookeeper | 16:49 |
| vipulnayyar | Thanks hongbin , will take a look at that :-) | 16:49 |
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| hongbin | vipulnayyar: There is a drawback though | 16:49 |
| hongbin | vipulnayyar: The speed of softwaredeployment is very slow | 16:50 |
| hongbin | vipulnayyar: I am not exactly sure why, but that is the drawback | 16:51 |
| Drago | I believe it has to do with the frequency with which os-collect-config polls Heat | 16:51 |
| hongbin | Possibly yes | 16:51 |
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| vipulnayyar | I'll do a more thorough read up on this and send it out once again over ML with more concrete plans | 16:51 |
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| hongbin | Thanks vipulnayyar | 16:52 |
| Drago | I can take a look into that software deployment problem because I am looking at converting the templates over too. | 16:52 |
| vipulnayyar | Will sync up with you, Drago | 16:52 |
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| adrian_otto | strigazi and tango___, we resolved the auth problem I raised for discussion last week. The fix is merged: https://review.openstack.org/342466 | 16:52 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:53 |
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| tango___ | Thanks Adrian, looks like a tricky bug to squash | 16:53 |
| jvgrant_ | i have topic on the magnum client and versioning | 16:53 |
| hongbin | jvgrant_: go ahead | 16:54 |
| jvgrant_ | what should be the magnum's client behavior with versioning? | 16:54 |
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| jvgrant_ | should it always be the latest micro-version? | 16:54 |
| jvgrant_ | should we add an option to specify version? | 16:54 |
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| jvgrant_ | should it support all "supported" micro-versions or just the latest? | 16:55 |
| vijendar | jvgrant_ + 1 default is latest version and should have option to specify specific version | 16:55 |
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| hongbin | If that is the behavior of other openstack clients, works for me | 16:55 |
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| rochaporto | there is already a --magnum-api-version? | 16:55 |
| jvgrant_ | as we haven't versioned before, there is not anything yet | 16:56 |
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| jvgrant_ | we are going to be now, and wanted to make sure we added the correct behavior to client as well | 16:56 |
| rochaporto | i meant at least the option appears in the current help | 16:57 |
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| jvgrant_ | yeah, that is what we would use | 16:57 |
| vijendar | I think current behavior does not respect microversion | 16:57 |
| jvgrant_ | right now by default it will be the base version not latest | 16:57 |
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| rochaporto | i have one for cinder support. we're trying to add it, but stuck by https://github.com/rackspace/gophercloud/pull/603 | 16:58 |
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| rochaporto | without it we need to put user credentials in the nodes, which is not ok | 16:59 |
| hongbin | Sorry, time is up | 16:59 |
| tango___ | We have similar problem elsewhere also, for Kuryr | 16:59 |
| hongbin | Overflow on #openstack-containers | 16:59 |
| hongbin | FYI, we have a etherpad to select the midcycle topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-newton-midcycle-topics . Please feel free to comment | 17:00 |
| hongbin | All. Thanks for joining the meeting | 17:00 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 19 17:00:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-19-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-19-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-19-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 19 17:00:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| freerunner | \o/ | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
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| ddovbii | o/ | 17:01 |
| osh | \o/ | 17:01 |
| vakovalchuk | o// | 17:01 |
| freerunner | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | d-_-b | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | We didn't have any AI's from the past meeting | 17:04 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yay | 17:04 |
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| Nikolay_St | hei | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so let's move straight to the agenda | 17:06 |
| Nikolay_St | d^_^b | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Backports | 17:06 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | it's that time of the month again | 17:06 |
| vakovalchuk | yey | 17:06 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: do you have a new set of things ready for review? =) | 17:07 |
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| vakovalchuk | just a couple of them this time | 17:07 |
| vakovalchuk | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-stable-backports | 17:07 |
| vakovalchuk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-stable-backports | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | the usual place ) | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I love how these things stack | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | gives us some perspective ) | 17:08 |
| vakovalchuk | maybe not everybody added it to favorite sites yet :) | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: actually I really like how we've built this process | 17:10 |
| vakovalchuk | and good news that all items from previous time are merged | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | comparing to previous cycles — we have a steady supply of things to backport | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | now we only need to make distro packages out of those, to increase murano adoption %) | 17:10 |
| vakovalchuk | kzaitsev_mb: thank you for the tool you've found | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'll save that for open discussion | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | %) | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, as usual — folks, take a look, if you feel some of the items do not belong there — comment. We'll make cherry-pick by the end of the week | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, done here | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Convergence | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: how is it going on the CI side? =) | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I guess he's AFK %) | 17:14 |
| Nikolay_St | yeah | 17:14 |
| Nikolay_St | I'm here | 17:14 |
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| Nikolay_St | just was a way for a minute | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sorry for choosing the unfortunate timing =) | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so both of our CI servers are running heat with convergence now, right? | 17:15 |
| Nikolay_St | as far as we have both our servers reinstalled recently we have *fresh* heat in which convergence engine is enabled by default | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | great! | 17:15 |
| Nikolay_St | so, everythin works well =) | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | any dowsides or problems so far? | 17:15 |
| freerunner | wow, congrats Nikolay_St :) | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | cool! | 17:16 |
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| Nikolay_St | freerunner: I have nothing to do with that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | keep us updated if anything would break =) | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but I guess we can safely forget about the thing for some time )) | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, all good with convergence | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Mascot | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-mascot | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the rules are here if you haven't read it | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots | 17:18 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | pls visit it today/tomorrow and leave your votes ;) | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we have time up to July 27th Also I think you can vote for multiple options if you're really torn between those =) | 17:20 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I guess everyone on the meeting today has already seen the list %) So I'm not going to spend much time here | 17:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:21 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm going on vacation next week, folks, so I'm going to someone to take my place | 17:22 |
| LanceHaig | I just wanted to introduce myself to the team. I am interested in the project and I am still seeing where I can get involved | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it would be from 25th to 3d of August | 17:23 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm going to be eventually available, but obviously not as active as usual +) | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action Write a letter appointing my deputies (kzaitsev_mb) | 17:24 |
| vakovalchuk | hello, LanceHaig. welcome! | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | LanceHaig: hello and welcome! | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | feel free to hangout in #murano | 17:24 |
| LanceHaig | I do :-) | 17:24 |
| LanceHaig | Thanks | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | also I'm planning to strap together a list of entry level tasks for murano | 17:25 |
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| Nikolay_St | sorry, I need to break. see you all, guys | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and share it sooner rather than later ) | 17:25 |
| freerunner | LanceHaig: Cool :) Nice to meet you :) | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: np, thanks for the update! | 17:25 |
| LanceHaig | kzaitsev_mb, cool when you have them I can see how I can help | 17:26 |
| NanKe | it my first time to join the meeting ,too hello everyone Murano is a wonderful project ,we can make it better ;-) | 17:26 |
| vakovalchuk | NanKe: hi! | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | as usual you can look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 17:26 |
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| LanceHaig | kzaitsev_mb, Thanks I will take a look | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the list is short unfortunatelly, but we try to have some low-hangin-fruit bugs | 17:27 |
| LanceHaig | Hey NanKe | 17:27 |
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| NanKe | hi LanceHaig | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | you can help out with https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bugs?field.tag=documentation doc's bugs, although they're usually a bit trickier | 17:28 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | also I'can share a couple of blueprints, where work would be appreciated and not really hard ) | 17:29 |
| DmytroDovbii | NanKe, LanceHaig, hi folks! Welome | 17:29 |
| LanceHaig | As I don't write code for a living <i think the documentation is up my street for now. Until I get more knowledgeable on how Murano works | 17:29 |
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| freerunner | NanKe: \o/ | 17:29 |
| LanceHaig | is there a lace where this info is listed? | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-muranoclient/+spec/openstack-client-plugin-support | 17:29 |
| LanceHaig | then We can grab this off the list as an when we have time | 17:30 |
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| LanceHaig | haha | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'd love to have some more hands on porting our client to OSC plugin, so feel free to grab some of those tasks | 17:30 |
| * LanceHaig was beaten tot he keyboard by kzaitsev_mb | 17:30 | |
| LanceHaig | great that looks like some good things to start with. | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | also this bp | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-unit-test-coverage | 17:31 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | we have an ambitious goal to have 95% coverage by newton ) | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | should be not hard to start ;) | 17:31 |
| LanceHaig | ok good | 17:32 |
| LanceHaig | some nice work to get my teeth into | 17:32 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep =) | 17:32 |
| LanceHaig | Thanks | 17:32 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I guess that should be enough for a start )) | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'll share a list of entry-level tasks some time soon ;) | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | for a general list of priorities you can refer to | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-newton-priorities | 17:33 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | LanceHaig: NanKe: if you have any questions/problems — come ask in #murano | 17:35 |
| LanceHaig | will do | 17:35 |
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| NanKe | I have recently started to use Murano | 17:36 |
| NanKe | if i have any question i will ask here thanks | 17:37 |
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| NanKe | in #murano ;-) | 17:38 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sure, please do ) | 17:38 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, so I wanted to say (I don't remember syaing that on prev meetings), that I'm slowly working towards getting murano packages for all the repos uptodate | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | debian is currently the only one that has up-to-date murano | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so I'm in the process of getting updates to ubuntu (they have outdated packages) and RDO (they miss dashboard completely =( ) | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | this is a side task of mine, so it goes slow, but steady ) | 17:40 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | if anyone wants to spend some of their free time, say on RDO packages — ping me, I'll share contacts | 17:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | although no pressure here ) | 17:41 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Or if anyone is a packaging expert by chance ) | 17:42 |
| LanceHaig | I used to package years ago so I don't think I would be much use | 17:43 |
| LanceHaig | :-) | 17:43 |
| NanKe | if there any patch about these job? i don't know how to do the job ,but maybe i can have have a try | 17:44 |
| kzaitsev_mb | NanKe: we already have coverage job | 17:44 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the thing is — we need more tests | 17:44 |
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| vakovalchuk | I feel some misunderstanding here | 17:45 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | `tox -e cover` will give you percentages and files, that we need to test more ) | 17:46 |
| kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: what kind of misunderstanding? =) | 17:46 |
| vakovalchuk | I'm not sure that NanKe was asking about that job. I think it was a question related to packaging job or something | 17:47 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ah, never mind the packaging — It's a complicated topic anyways ) | 17:47 |
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| LanceHaig | I will ask more questions about dev environments etc.. on the #murano channel | 17:48 |
| NanKe | Some of the conversations I missed ......sorry | 17:48 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok, I think we've discussed most of the things we wanted | 17:49 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So I suggest to save 10 mins of our time, unless anyone has anything to add =) | 17:50 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, thanks everyone, see you in #murano and looking forward to helping you make new contributions! | 17:53 |
| kzaitsev_mb | thanks for joining today | 17:53 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 19 17:53:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-19-17.00.html | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-19-17.00.txt | 17:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-19-17.00.log.html | 17:53 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 19 19:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | hello Sergey is on vacation for the next 2 weeks | 19:03 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-19 | 19:03 |
| catherineD | it maybe a quick meeting today | 19:04 |
| catherineD | #topic Mascot for RefStack | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-mascot | 19:04 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thanks for the inputs ... | 19:05 |
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| hogepodge | Since refstack is a collection of test results sent in by users in our community, I feel that the client-server and collaborative aspects are well represented by a honey bee | 19:05 |
| catherineD | I really like option 1 | 19:05 |
| hogepodge | And perhaps a hive | 19:05 |
| pvaneck | I like the honey bee idea as well | 19:05 |
| andrey-mp | o/ | 19:05 |
| pvaneck | when is the dead line for mascots | 19:05 |
| catherineD | Jul 27 | 19:06 |
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| pvaneck | ah just saw | 19:06 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-19 | 19:06 |
| rockyg | o/ | 19:07 |
| catherineD | let vote for the 2 options in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-mascot | 19:07 |
| catherineD | unless there is other inputs | 19:08 |
| rockyg | Uh, I didn't know about this etherpad until now.... | 19:09 |
| rockyg | I'd like a little time to think on this. | 19:09 |
| pvaneck | can revisit next week | 19:09 |
| catherineD | fair enougn ... we can postpone voting to next week | 19:09 |
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| rockyg | Maybe we can come up with more contenders for the mascot | 19:10 |
| catherineD | please add your ideas to the etherpad ... | 19:10 |
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| catherineD | we can vote next week ... | 19:11 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:11 |
| catherineD | #topic Using refstack-client to update product table product_ref_id | 19:11 |
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| catherineD | #link Authenticate user for update product with public key and signature ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335877/ ) | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: there are concerns about key/sign implementation that this patch expose ... | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | this is a varios links... | 19:13 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: ? | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | this patch uses same auth method as results post method | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | topic about refstack-client and link about refstack API | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: the topic would include both server and client side ... | 19:15 |
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| andrey-mp | ok | 19:15 |
| andrey-mp | but this is two different topic/issues (for me) | 19:16 |
| pvaneck | catherineD: you said there are concerns? | 19:17 |
| catherineD | I am OK if we discuss the client side first? | 19:17 |
| catherineD | concerns on the server side ... but for now let's discuss the client side | 19:17 |
| andrey-mp | ok | 19:17 |
| catherineD | we will come back to the server side | 19:17 |
| catherineD | #link Add register cloud command ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335883/ ) | 19:18 |
| catherineD | in general, this patch should only be merged if the server side provides such function to allow command (PUT in this case) with X-Publickey ... in the header | 19:19 |
| andrey-mp | sure | 19:19 |
| catherineD | I know that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335883/ is depending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335877/ | 19:20 |
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| catherineD | but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335877/ will be merged to feature/vendor | 19:20 |
| andrey-mp | but in general you should decide about this functionality at all - does refstack need it or not | 19:20 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: I don't mind to have this function ... it is one way to initialize the product_ref_id | 19:21 |
| catherineD | I am OK with it | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | I can +2 but just do not want us to accidentally merge it .. | 19:22 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: do you have a chance to review this patch? | 19:23 |
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| andrey-mp | some time ago we suggested to link results and clouds via this property. and if decision will be changed about linking results to products then this patchset is not needed... | 19:23 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: I see your concern that is topic #5 for today's discussion .. | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | catherineD, havent tested it yet, and yea, we'll have to come to a resolution regarding the product-test link | 19:24 |
| catherineD | regardless product_ref_id can still be initallize with cloud id .. that is why I think the patch is still work for me | 19:25 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: yes, it is. | 19:25 |
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| catherineD | in that case let's go directly to topic #5 ... but before that since rockyg: hogepodge: are here I want to touch base on topic 4.2 really quick | 19:27 |
| catherineD | #topic Specification for marking a record as "used for certification" | 19:27 |
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| catherineD | In last week's meeting, the team has decided to split out the specification for certification section from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/ | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | rockyg: hogepodge: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ | 19:28 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: andrey-mp: please review .. especially the API section in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ | 19:29 |
| rockyg | looking at it now... | 19:29 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: I agree with Alex - it is simplier to have one action with parameter. | 19:29 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: did you see my response? | 19:29 |
| andrey-mp | yes | 19:29 |
| catherineD | also take a look at the vendor API on the action section ... | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: pvaneck: please add you feedback regarding the API in the review ... I am willing to update ...I am willing to follow the majority's opinions | 19:31 |
| pvaneck | sure | 19:32 |
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| rockyg | Couple of thoughts. Rather than boolean, I wonder if Chris might want an identifier that ties the test result into the foundation records. Identifier=certified. nil=no cert | 19:32 |
| hogepodge | The api will need a way to handle association of guidelines to anonymous results. | 19:32 |
| catherineD | for that .. everyone please add your review to the patch | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: technically since the result is anonymous that means that no one owns them | 19:33 |
| catherineD | of course , foundation own everything ... | 19:33 |
| rockyg | Also, there may be multiple different logos going forward. We already have 3 | 19:34 |
| catherineD | so interop admins can assiciate result to guideline | 19:34 |
| rockyg | so, some sort of prefix to identify which cert is also a good thing: prefix+certID | 19:34 |
| catherineD | rockyg: yea good point | 19:35 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: what do you think? | 19:35 |
| rockyg | And maybe prefix+foundation-Anon-ref+certID | 19:35 |
| rockyg | Or something like that. hogepodge, what do you think? | 19:36 |
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| catherineD | rockyg: preferly this column will be a number for sorting and selecting | 19:36 |
| catherineD | so it would be constant with definition of different kind | 19:36 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: that means that when interop admin mark as certified ... interop admins need to choose from a list of certification types | 19:37 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: what do you think? | 19:38 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: what do you mean types? | 19:39 |
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| hogepodge | Oh, platform, compute, and storage | 19:40 |
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| catherineD | something like 1=Openstack Platform, 2=compute 3=object | 19:41 |
| catherineD | instead of true/false | 19:41 |
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| hogepodge | Sure, it allows for expansion. I'd break them out though, and have the types be a set | 19:41 |
| catherineD | we define constants for the various types | 19:41 |
| catherineD | great | 19:41 |
| catherineD | rockyg: thanks for the idea | 19:41 |
| catherineD | I will make update ... | 19:41 |
| hogepodge | The issue being, we're going to propose expanding the program to include something like mixins, so you could have OpenStack Powered Compute with Heat. | 19:42 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: as i remember - result contains a program? why do you need one more number? what if one more programm will be added? | 19:42 |
| hogepodge | Just in the proposal stage, but it's how we're thinking about how to account for big tent and other projects that with an OpenStack Powered cloud | 19:42 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: in that case we just define a different constant for OpenStack Powerd Compute with Heat | 19:43 |
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| rockyg | maybe hogepodge can propose something that at least meets the foundation thinking and put it in as a comment to be added or? | 19:43 |
| hogepodge | But it's going to grow combinatorially. Add Heat, Trove, Ceilometer, Sahara... | 19:43 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: we just define additional constant for new program | 19:43 |
| andrey-mp | but why refstack can't use link to a program/guideline from result? | 19:44 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: we do | 19:45 |
| andrey-mp | why it needs duplicate information stored as unusual way? | 19:45 |
| catherineD | today, you can assiciate result to a guideline and program | 19:45 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: because even that the result is linked to guideline and program , it does not mean that it is used as official certified result | 19:46 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: so it is not duplicate | 19:47 |
| hogepodge | A result being used for certification is independent of the program/guideline. If those are fields that already exist, then I'm not sure that much more than a boolean is needed | 19:47 |
| andrey-mp | hodepodge: +1 | 19:47 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: a boolean (soon to be a number) is specify a specific result | 19:48 |
| andrey-mp | if we need 'mark as used for certification' then let's do it | 19:48 |
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| andrey-mp | it will be strange if this filed will store one number and result will be linked to another program... | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | look at this result https://refstack.openstack.org/#/results/91ae10c5-ecf5-4823-81d4-09836dc212cf | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | I associated that to a guideline and program and share it to everyone to see ... but that is not a record in hogepodge: 's cerfified list .. | 19:50 |
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| catherineD | we need some indication that the specific result is "used for certification" | 19:51 |
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| andrey-mp | yes! we need only boolean flag! | 19:51 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: you have a good point on inconsistency | 19:51 |
| catherineD | and since we already have the program associated ... yep a bollean flag would work ... | 19:51 |
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| catherineD | rockyg: I think we go back to a boolean because we already have a way to associate program | 19:52 |
| rockyg | ha ha ha. Circles. | 19:53 |
| catherineD | yup | 19:53 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: thx for bringing us back ! Power of team work !!! | 19:53 |
| andrey-mp | :) | 19:53 |
| catherineD | moving on? | 19:53 |
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| catherineD | I think there is no meeting after this meeting | 19:54 |
| catherineD | we will go on until someone kick us out :-) | 19:54 |
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| catherineD | #topic Revisit cloudid vs productid | 19:54 |
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| catherineD | #link please look at https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1btnlXcCoucjbmUNd18QoPK68UNuNLN9oFvUBWtYgATo/edit#slide=id.gf21c0d478_11_0 | 19:55 |
| catherineD | let me explain ... I will signal when I am done | 19:55 |
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| catherineD | could you go to slide 6 | 19:56 |
| catherineD | what I am trying to explain is why we need an additional product_id column in the test table.... I will signal when I am done | 19:56 |
| catherineD | in slide 6 ... the scenario is productA is a distro product with a product_id in refstack | 19:57 |
| catherineD | in order to test, the vendor of product A need to create a cloud with cloud_id_1 to test | 19:58 |
| catherineD | this cloud was built in 2015 and the run test .. | 19:58 |
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| catherineD | so in this graph product to cloud to test are all link with cloud id | 19:58 |
| catherineD | done for slide 6 description ... any question ? | 19:59 |
| andrey-mp | i'm sorry - but let's start with main problem(concern) (because i don't understand what is discussed) | 19:59 |
| catherineD | the main concern is using cloud_id to link test to product is not good for all cases ... | 19:59 |
| andrey-mp | slide 6 - i'm not fully agree with phrase 'product_id is unique id among versions. next version is the next product | 20:00 |
| catherineD | in slide 6 it is good | 20:00 |
| catherineD | ok let me explain | 20:00 |
| andrey-mp | like OpenStack Liberty, OpenStack Mitaka | 20:00 |
| andrey-mp | here name is an ID | 20:00 |
| andrey-mp | and these IDs are not unique | 20:00 |
| andrey-mp | these IDs show us that something is changed | 20:01 |
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| andrey-mp | like major version in another distro's | 20:01 |
| catherineD | let me explain take any product in the marketplace (I just choose the first one come to the page) for example : https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/distros/distribution/oracle/oracle-openstack-for-oracle-solaris | 20:01 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: are you with me on the marketplace product before I go on? | 20:02 |
| andrey-mp | yeah | 20:02 |
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| andrey-mp | I see that this uses Juno version of OpenStack | 20:03 |
| catherineD | so I go to refstack and create a product name "Oracle OpenStack for Oracle Solaris " and that will create a product entry in the refstack product table with a unique prodcut_id | 20:03 |
| catherineD | so at 2016 (today) it use Juno | 20:03 |
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| catherineD | in order to test the vendor (Oracle) in this case will build a cloud based on this Juno product ... that clould will have cloud_id_1 | 20:04 |
| rockyg | guys, might want to move to refstack... past the hour... | 20:04 |
| catherineD | rockyg: I notice that no meeting after us | 20:05 |
| rockyg | Oh, then ok. | 20:05 |
| catherineD | maybe we should move to #refstack? | 20:05 |
| catherineD | we still have log there so we should be OK | 20:05 |
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| andrey-mp | for example - https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/distros/distribution/mirantis/mirantis-openstack | 20:06 |
| andrey-mp | it has several versions - 6.1, 7, 8, 9 | 20:06 |
| andrey-mp | what version is certified and tested/ | 20:06 |
| andrey-mp | ? | 20:06 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:06 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 19 20:06:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-07-19-19.00.html | 20:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-07-19-19.00.txt | 20:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-07-19-19.00.log.html | 20:06 |
| catherineD | let move to #refstack | 20:06 |
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