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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api12:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 12:59:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:59
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alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
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alex_xuemm....13:00
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alex_xusdague: johnthetubaguy, are you around?13:01
johnthetubaguyyeah, just wondering in13:01
johnthetubaguyo/13:01
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: ah cool13:01
johnthetubaguyhang on, are we on the wrong channel?13:01
alex_xuoops...13:01
alex_xuyes, wrong channel13:02
alex_xu#endmeeting13:02
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devkulkarni1#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting13:59
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devkulkarni1#topic Roll Call14:00
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devkulkarni1Devdatta Kulkarni14:00
zhurongzhurong14:00
devkulkarni1hi zhurong14:00
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devkulkarni1hopefully caowei and Ablu will join us as well14:01
Abluhi14:01
Ablusure14:01
devkulkarni1here is our agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-08-31_1400_UTC14:01
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caoweihi14:02
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devkulkarni1alright.. we have enough folks to get started14:02
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zhurongthey all join :D14:02
devkulkarni1lets go through the items on the agenda and then we can open up for open discussion14:03
devkulkarni1zhurong: :)14:03
devkulkarni1#topic Announcements14:03
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devkulkarni1Our submission titled "Applications as first class citizens on OpenStack" has been accepted as stand-by for Barcelona summit14:03
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devkulkarni1what this means is, if any slot opens up for whatever reason, our talk will get space14:04
devkulkarni1otherwise not14:04
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devkulkarni1our other submission was workshop on solum14:04
devkulkarni1but that did not get accepted14:05
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zhurongdevkulkarni1  bad news14:07
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devkulkarni1zhurong: what about your talks?14:08
devkulkarni1for our talks I would say its a mixed result14:08
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zhurongdevkulkarni1 I have a cooperation topic with another guys14:09
devkulkarni1while we would have liked to have both accepted, having one in stand-by is better than not having any selected.. we might still have a chance14:09
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devkulkarni1zhurong: cool14:09
devkulkarni1but I agree.. compared to Austin summit, it is less number of talks for us this time14:10
devkulkarni1it happens14:10
devkulkarni1hopefully we will have better representation at the following summit in Boston14:11
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zhurongdevkulkarni1 So many application development and CI/CD topics14:12
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devkulkarni1zhurong: agree.. this is a popular space14:12
devkulkarni1and also currently open.. there is no one tool/technique/platform that has become widely accepted..14:13
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devkulkarni1ok, lets move on to the next item14:14
devkulkarni12) Outreachy internship successfully completed by pt_1514:14
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devkulkarni1last day of pt_15's internship was last week14:15
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devkulkarni1she is still going to continue contributing to solum14:15
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devkulkarni1any other announcement(s) from any of you?14:16
zhurongThis is a good news :D14:16
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AbluI will try to prepare my first part of my work for submission14:16
devkulkarni1+1 zhurong14:16
Abluso the building of new images by running scripts on top of an existing image14:16
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devkulkarni1Ablu: sounds good14:17
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devkulkarni1#topic Discussion14:18
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devkulkarni1Cutting a release this week (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/102451.html)14:18
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devkulkarni1we need to cut a release for solum, python-solumclient, solum-dashboard, and solum-guestagent this week14:18
devkulkarni1I am planning to do that later today14:19
devkulkarni1we can tag another release later as well14:19
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devkulkarni1but we have to do one this week14:19
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devkulkarni1so if we merge any outstanding patches this week, that should be fine14:20
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devkulkarni1we can always tag another release before the official release dates for the newton release14:20
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devkulkarni1#topic Patch review14:21
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zhurongmost of the projects had already FF14:21
devkulkarni1zhurong: yes.. feature freeze is for projects that are following release with cycle release model14:22
devkulkarni1we are following release-intermediary release model14:22
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devkulkarni1in this model we can tag a release anytime14:22
zhurongdevkulkarni1 oh.. thanks for explain this14:23
devkulkarni1dhellmann's above email is mentioning that we need to tag a release this week so that we can get in as part of official newton release14:23
devkulkarni1zhurong: right14:23
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devkulkarni1so we will tag a release this week and then if we merge more patches, we can tag another release next week14:23
devkulkarni1on to the topic of patch reviews14:24
devkulkarni1zhurong: thanks for submitting the oslo patches :)14:25
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devkulkarni1can you give an overview of the patches? that way it will be easier to review14:25
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zhurongdevkulkarni1 openstack/common dir had using all of the oslo to instead, most of the project had done this work14:27
Abluok, I guess I am out for today :)14:28
AbluHave a nice day!14:28
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devkulkarni1zhurong: right. in fact, moving away from openstack/common to use oslo libraries is one of the goals put forward by the TC14:28
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devkulkarni1alright Ablu14:28
devkulkarni1have a great evening/night14:28
zhurongyep, we need remove this dir14:29
devkulkarni1zhurong: so you taking up this task is really very helpful for our project14:29
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devkulkarni1zhurong: after your current series of patches, how much of this work will still be remaining?14:29
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devkulkarni1I believe we have to do this for python-solumclient as well14:30
zhurongdevkulkarni1 Once is merged, there are only need to remove the dir, then it will done in solum14:30
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zhurongyep, python-solumclient  need to do as well14:30
devkulkarni1zhurong: ok, so solum is almost migrated14:31
devkulkarni1once your current patches have merged, we just have to remove that directory14:31
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devkulkarni1which you can do as a followon patch14:31
devkulkarni1zhurong: this is really great.. I will move your patches forward soon so that we might be able to satisfy the oslo goal even before the barcelona summit14:32
zhurongdevkulkarni1 need merged all the current review patches, then remove the directory14:33
devkulkarni1sounds good14:34
zhurongthe left thing is very easy to do and review14:34
devkulkarni1lets try to merge your current patches asap14:34
devkulkarni1if there are any -1 from Jenkins, I would suggest to fix that14:35
devkulkarni1that way we would not be blocked due to gates14:35
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zhurong-1 from jenkins is because deponded on the prev one14:36
devkulkarni1ah I see14:36
devkulkarni1in that case it should get fixed once the first patch in the tree is merged14:36
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zhurongyep devkulkarni114:37
devkulkarni1cool14:37
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devkulkarni1lets discuss solum-dashboard patches next14:38
devkulkarni1https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum-dashboard+status:open,n,z14:38
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devkulkarni1zhurong: I thought this patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359468/) will be fixed after your pep8 fix was merged:14:39
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zhurongseems can not passed14:40
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zhurongwe recheck at the same time :D14:40
devkulkarni1ha ha nice :)14:41
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devkulkarni1lets see if the recheck makes any changes14:41
zhurongdevkulkarni1 if my Manually update will pass the gate, I think we can merge my patch first14:41
zhurongdevkulkarni1 yep14:42
devkulkarni1ok, we can do that14:42
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zhurongdevkulkarni1 If OpenStack Proposal Bot pass the gate, I will abandon my patch14:42
devkulkarni1ok, I think this is good plan14:43
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devkulkarni1zhurong: looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum-dashboard+status:open,n,z14:43
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devkulkarni1there are several patches from pt_15 which have -1 from you and/or caowei.14:44
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devkulkarni1I was wondering if we should create bugs for these and come back and fix them?14:44
devkulkarni1that way we will be able to move this patches forward14:44
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devkulkarni1the reason I suggest is, pt_15's internship has ended and I doubt she will have enough time to submit revisions to patches in next few weeks14:45
devkulkarni1what do you think?14:45
zhurongIf I have time, I will help her with the patches, and make them merge14:46
zhurongthis weekend, I will do this14:46
devkulkarni1zhurong: ok, that will be very helpful then.. I just want the patches to get merged so that all the hard work that pt_15 and you put into this over last few months is reflected in our newton release14:46
devkulkarni1and about your patch for i18n: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349160/14:47
devkulkarni1thanks for sharing the Translations link on the patch14:48
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devkulkarni1I haven't yet gotten around to checking it out, will do so soon14:48
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zhurongafter this patch, I need add auto translations job for solum-dashboard14:49
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devkulkarni1I see14:49
devkulkarni1hmm.. jenkins gave -1 to both the patches14:50
devkulkarni1your manual update one and the proposal bot14:50
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devkulkarni1pbr version conflict http://logs.openstack.org/68/359468/3/check/gate-solum-dashboard-pep8-ubuntu-xenial/4497fcf/console.html#_2016-08-31_14_47_05_63804814:52
zhurongdevkulkarni1 I will fix my patch14:52
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devkulkarni1zhurong: or, if you want to check with openstack-infra on how to resolve the pbr version conflict issue that will be good too14:52
zhurongI checked, the proposal bot pbr version is the same with my patch14:53
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devkulkarni1ok14:54
devkulkarni1hmm.14:54
devkulkarni1lets see if your fix gets +1 from Jenkins14:55
devkulkarni1then we can merge yours first and then re-trigger proposal bot's patch14:55
devkulkarni1ok, 5 minutes remaining..14:55
devkulkarni1#topic Open discussion14:55
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zhurongmy jenkins -1 maybe because pylint package license changed14:56
zhurongNow it be GPLv214:56
zhurongdevkulkarni1 meeting time is almost over14:58
devkulkarni1oh I see. what is the way to fix it?14:58
devkulkarni1yeah, its almost over14:58
devkulkarni1we can continue in solum channel14:58
zhurongdevkulkarni1 I have submit a new one14:58
devkulkarni1I see14:58
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devkulkarni1alright, lets conclude for today then14:59
devkulkarni1thanks all for joining today14:59
devkulkarni1#endmeeting14:59
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Swamihi15:00
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haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 15:01:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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haleyb#chair Swami15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:01
haleyb#topic Announcements15:02
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haleybN-3 is closing this week15:02
haleybany new features that haven't merged will need to be granted a FFE15:02
Swamialmost there15:02
haleybWe still will be able to fix bugs, especially if they help the check/gate job stability15:03
Swamihaleyb: what do you think about the Fast path exit, do we need a FFE or can we move it to the next release and backport it.15:03
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haleybSwami: i know we don't usually backport new features, but there doesn't seem to be a config change required15:04
haleybhow close do you think it is?15:04
Swamiit can still be considered as a bug15:04
SwamiIt is pretty good.15:04
SwamiI have addressed couple of review comments yesterday as well on the route rules.15:04
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Swamihaleyb: if you get some time today you can review the rule patch for the fast path exit and we can keep it ready, it if works out we can merge.15:06
haleybI will have to look at the reviews again, then we can move forward once we're happy15:06
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Swamihaleyb: ok, make sense.15:06
Swamiat this point, we don't need to hurry.15:07
haleyb#topic Bugs15:07
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haleybright, i'd rather get it right15:07
Swamihaleyb: we don't have new bugs filed this week. So we pretty much have to address all the existing bugs.15:07
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161219215:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612192 in neutron "L3 DVR: Unable to complete operation on subnet" [Critical,Confirmed]15:08
haleybNo new bugs?  must be a record15:08
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Swamihaleyb: Did you get a chance to triage this.15:09
SwamiI think this is seen in the gate. Are we still seeing this in the gate after the gate stabilization.15:09
haleybSwami: no, been mostly looking at the dvr multinode job failures15:09
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haleybi don't know if we're still seeing it, need to ask logstash15:10
SwamiBoth the criticals that we have were seen in the gate.15:10
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161280415:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612804 in neutron "test_shelve_instance fails with sshtimeout" [Critical,Confirmed]15:11
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SwamiThis was also reported as seen in the gate.15:11
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haleybregarding the first, there have been 8 occurences in the past two weeks, all on one day15:12
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Swamihaleyb: so will it be due to the gate issues or a bad patch.15:13
Swamijschwarz: hi15:13
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haleybSwami: actually 8 in past 30 days15:13
haleyball happened in 24 hours on 8/23-2415:13
Swamihaleyb: so let us monitor it for another week and see what happens.15:14
haleybi will look and close if necessary15:14
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haleybthe second happens more often, but i don't know if it's neutron, have not dug15:15
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Swamihaleyb: ok thanks.15:15
haleybi'll guess and say it's an issue saving to storage15:15
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Swamihaleyb: you may be right.15:16
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Swamihaleyb: we have seen the shelve_instance fail earlier as well.15:16
haleybSwami: hmm, some show a failure to get DHCP15:17
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Swamihaleyb: so is there two different symptoms for the same failure.15:17
haleyband that's in the non-dvr test15:17
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haleybSwami: any time we can't ssh to an instance it's neutron's fault :(15:18
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Swamihaleyb: yeah! you got it.15:19
haleybs/neutron/dvr15:19
SwamiThe next set of bugs are related to DVR+HA+L315:20
Swamiwe have discussed about these bugs earlier.15:20
jschwarzhaleyb, we're seeing a problem where in certain cases, with HA-only routers, instances lose connectivity15:20
jschwarzhaleyb, that's still DVR's fault ;-)15:20
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haleybjschwarz: let me know when patches are up :)15:20
jschwarzhaleyb, :D15:20
haleybjschwarz: are there any HA patches that need attention?15:21
Swamijschwarz: mostly the L3+HA+DVR combination is generating lot more bugs.15:21
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Swamijschwarz: any update on the L3+HA+DVR bugs that you are working on.15:21
jschwarzyes, sorry15:22
jschwarzI came unprepared :)15:22
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159746115:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1597461 in neutron "L3 HA: 2 masters after reboot of controller" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:22
Swamijschwarz: no problem15:22
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jschwarzSwami, the patch for that merged a few days ago15:22
Swamijschwarz: so can we close this bug, is it all fixed.15:22
jschwarzSwami, yes, with a side note that a couple of other repos are complaining it broke some of their tests15:23
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Swamijschwarz: that's not good.15:23
jschwarzSwami, one was already taken care of, the other one I'm not sure if it has (it was from networking-odl)15:23
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160232015:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1602320 in neutron "ha + distributed router: keepalived process kill vrrp child process" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen)15:24
jschwarzSwami, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357458/9/neutron/services/l3_router/l3_router_plugin.py@7715:24
Swamijschwarz: so are you planning to rollback or fix it with a different patch15:25
jschwarzSwami, I see a bug fix here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363175/15:25
jschwarzSwami, I think it's best to keep it separated and not rollback15:26
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jschwarzSwami, I will work with Isaku to provide a good fix for this ASAP15:26
Swamijschwarz: ok thanks.15:26
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Swamijschwarz: do you have any input on the keepalived bug that I posted above.15:27
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jschwarzSwami, nope :<15:27
jschwarzSwami, it looks like this patch has seen no action for 2 weeks now15:27
jschwarzI'll ping Dongcan Ye to see if this can be moved forward15:27
Swamijschwarz: thanks15:28
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160261415:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1602614 in neutron "DVR + L3 HA loss during failover is higher that it is expected" [High,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata)15:28
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jschwarzSwami, the fix is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255237/ - the long l2pop patch by anilvenkata15:29
jschwarzit's being reviewed by Carl, Assaf and Kevin and since it's a complicated fix it's taking a while15:29
Swamijschwarz: I think that is still under review.15:29
anilvenkatayes15:29
jschwarzhopefully this will get in N's RC15:29
Swamijschwarz: ok makes sense.15:29
anilvenkatagetting different suggestions :)15:29
Swamijschwarz: ok15:30
Swamianilvenkata: thanks15:30
anilvenkatathanks Swami jschwarz haleyb15:30
jschwarzSwami, we also have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160738115:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1607381 in neutron "HA router in l3 dvr_snat/legacy agent has no ha_port" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:31
carl_baldwinI did not get to that review yesterday. I hope to get to it today.15:31
carl_baldwinanilvenkata: jschwarz: ^15:31
jschwarzcarl_baldwin, ack, thanks :)15:31
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anilvenkatacarl_baldwin, thanks Carl15:31
jschwarzthe bug I linked to is being dealt with in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265672/15:31
Swamianilvenkata: can we close this bug or is it still valid #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159504315:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595043 in neutron "Make DVR portbinding implementation useful for HA ports" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata)15:32
anilvenkataSwami, we will keep it15:32
anilvenkataSwami, we have other issues with HA15:32
Swamianilvenkata: ok.15:32
anilvenkataSwami, thanks Swami15:32
jschwarzgoing back, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265672/ just needs reviews IMO - it looks to be ready15:33
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Swamijschwarz: thanks15:33
SwamiThe next one is15:34
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159335415:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1593354 in neutron "SNAT HA failed because of missing nat rule in snat namespace iptable" [Undecided,New]15:34
jschwarzI have not seen this one before (and it wasn't even triaged)15:34
Swamijschwarz: yes15:34
Swamihaleyb: did you get a chance to triage this bug.15:35
jschwarzanilvenkata, ^ is this something that your patch deals with?15:35
haleybSwami: no15:35
anilvenkatajschwarz, no for bug 159335415:36
openstackbug 1593354 in neutron "SNAT HA failed because of missing nat rule in snat namespace iptable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159335415:36
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Swamihaleyb: thanks,15:36
jschwarzSwami, I'll have a pass through it tomorrow and triage this, unless haleyb beats me to it15:36
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Swamijschwarz: thanks15:38
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SwamiThat's all I had for the bugs this week.15:38
haleybany other bugs to talk about from anyone?15:39
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haleybyou need to clap again and make all the bugs go away :)15:40
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Swamijschwarz: thanks15:40
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haleyb#topic Gate failures15:41
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haleybthe dvr and dvr-multinode (and regular multinode) jobs still have higher failure rates15:41
haleybi am continuing to triage this when i have time, filing bugs as i go15:42
carl_baldwinAny insight in to the high multi-node rate?15:42
haleybcarl_baldwin: DHCP is failing, but have not determined the timeline to see if it's the agent not starting15:43
carl_baldwinhaleyb: Are you all alone in looking in to this?15:44
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haleybkevinbenton and armax have been cleaning-up the dhcp issues i've been finding, but none actually fix the bug15:44
armaxhaleyb: dvr is not happy still15:44
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haleybarmax: yes, i continue to look15:45
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haleyband i do see the neutron-dvr job is about 12% failure in the gate today15:46
Swamihaleyb: is this for the single node15:47
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haleybyes, http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen15:47
haleybgate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr gate job15:47
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:48
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haleybbut the failure rate is falling, don't know if it was related to the dhcp patch that merged last night15:48
Swamihaleyb: will this also fix the multinode issue with respect to dhcp.15:49
haleybSwami: don't think so, dhcp could fail for many reasons as we know...15:49
haleybcarl_baldwin: i will look into the gate dvr failure, and yes i'm all alone doing it at the moment, but will reach out to people15:50
Swamihaleyb: yes.15:50
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carl_baldwinhaleyb: let me know, I might be able to help some.15:51
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haleybi need to find a patch failing first15:51
Swamihaleyb: is there a particular test that fails with respect to dhcp or is it random.15:52
SwamiIs it the instance that is not able to get the dhcp and so the ssh fails.15:52
haleybSwami: TestNetworkBasicOps is usually the one15:52
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:53
haleybright, console shows dhcp failing and no IP on eth0.  i started looking on the server and dhcp agent and found some issues, but it's a work in progress15:53
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Swamihaleyb: thanks15:55
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haleyb#topic Open discussion15:55
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haleybSwami: only note on wiki is live migration patch15:55
Swamihaleyb: what is that. I don't get it.15:56
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073/https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073/15:56
haleybnova patch for live migration w/neutron15:56
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Swamihaleyb: yes got it. We are still waiting for a +2 on it.15:57
haleybeven the experimental job was happy15:57
SwamiI think john ran the experimental job, so let us wait and see.15:57
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353788/15:58
Swamihaleyb: I need your blessing on this patch.15:58
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haleybSwami: yes, saw that, will look15:58
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Swamihaleyb: thanks15:59
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haleybwe're at end of hour, thanks for all the hard work everyone!15:59
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SwamiThere is one backport patch as well for /stable/liberyt15:59
Swamiwe will take it offline.15:59
haleyb#endmeeting15:59
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 17:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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mugsie#topic Roll Call17:01
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timsimo/17:01
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mugsie#topic Announcements17:01
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mugsieDesignate 3.0.0.0b3 was tagged17:01
mugsieand the dashboard17:02
mugsieand a new version of the client17:02
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mugsieanyone else have anything?17:02
mugsie#topic Action Items17:02
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mugsiemugsie close http://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/160957617:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1609576 in Designate "v1 API always gives null for record descriptions, despite v2 recordset having a description?" [Undecided,Invalid]17:03
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mugsiedone17:03
mugsiekiall to BP 028c9bf Fix SSHFP validation for ECDSA, ED25519, and SHA25617:03
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mugsieNot done afaik17:03
mugsie#action kiall to BP 028c9bf Fix SSHFP validation for ECDSA, ED25519, and SHA25617:03
KiallDerp. I did it, but submitted to our internal Gerrit somehow17:04
mugsielol17:04
Kiallaka not done\17:04
mugsie#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:04
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timsimlots of stuff this week17:04
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/161462717:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1614627 in Designate "The 'next' link not shown" [Undecided,New]17:04
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Kiall:(17:05
mugsiehuh17:05
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mugsieCritical17:05
Kiallthat looks pretty bad.17:05
timsimyep17:05
mugsietarget RC117:06
KiallProbably an off by 1 somewhere17:06
mugsieyeah17:06
timsimDon't have an rc1 milestone yet?17:06
mugsierefresh17:06
timsimcool17:06
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/161599717:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1615997 in Designate "InfoBlox backend docs out of date" [Undecided,New]17:06
mugsie:)17:06
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/161868817:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1618688 in Designate "Infoblox backend: "SSLError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory" error when using sslverify False in pools.yml" [Undecided,New]17:06
mugsieL, no milestone17:06
timsimPutting those together.17:06
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mugsieeh17:07
mugsieI think one is an actual bug17:07
mugsieand the other is a request for docs17:07
timsimFair enough. L for the first one.17:07
timsimWhat about the second, same?17:07
mugsieeh - not sure17:08
KiallThat looks like a legit bug17:08
Kiallsslverify is either True/False or a path to a cert17:08
Kiall(from memory)17:08
KiallL / High17:08
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KiallProb not critical17:09
mugsieH17:09
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mugsieit looks like it is being parsed as a string, where previously is was hardcoded to a bool17:09
mugsiehttps://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/backend/impl_infoblox/config.py17:09
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timsimJust hope someone steps up to maintain that backend I guess.17:10
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/161654117:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1616541 in Designate "mDNS fails to handle SOA etc queries correctly when multiple pools have a RRSet of the same name and type" [Undecided,New]17:10
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Kiallthis is the one I found at the mid-cycle17:10
KiallProbably High/Critical17:10
timsimHigh RC1?17:11
mugsieyeah17:11
timsimI guess Critical if it could break multi pool eh17:11
KiallYea, It should be a simple enough fix17:11
mugsieactualy, yeah17:11
mugsieC17:11
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/161735617:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1617356 in Designate "Recordsets are going in error status." [Undecided,New]17:11
timsimNot a bug, support request? Come to #openstack-dns plz?17:12
KiallI *think* that's someone from HPE17:12
mugsieit id17:12
mugsieit looks like a copy + paste from a Jira17:12
timsimohh yeah. hah17:12
Kiallsomeone who I'll be having a call with this week ;)17:12
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timsimI'll just close it out then ;)17:12
mugsieyeah - support request17:12
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/161745417:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1617454 in Designate "Changes do not propagate to downed/recovered nameservers, depending on threshold percentage" [Undecided,New]17:12
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mugsiethis was pglass17:13
mugsieright?17:13
timsimyep17:13
pglassyeah.17:13
Kialltimsim: go ahead and close, it's the pool host/port are wrong for notifies17:13
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mugsieso.17:13
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pglassi have tests which catch this, in the third party ci jobs i added17:13
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mugsiethis bug - it has "peridic sync is disabled"17:13
pglassright now they're being skipped.17:13
mugsiethis was the reason that we wrote periodic sync17:14
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pglasswell, so. we aren't running periodic sync in our internal envs, I think because we encountered performance issues with it.17:14
mugsiethe solution (IMHO) is to have threshold at 100% or run the sync17:15
KiallSo - I gues the real issue is  performance of periodic sync so it can be turned on?17:15
mugsieyeah17:15
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timsimYeah basically. Also, there isn't a periodic sync in the worker world yet.17:15
KiallThat too :)17:16
mugsiewell, in worker, it couldbe OK if the producer shards it up17:16
timsimYeah it should be.17:17
timsimThe problem was that the RPCAPI call to central to get all those zones timed out, if memory serves.17:17
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timsimBut periodic sync isn't a perfect solution17:17
timsimIf you only run it every six hours or once a day something.17:18
KiallOh, don't tell me it's asking for ALL zones at once? Rather than paging though them?17:18
timsimOf course it is17:18
mugsiewell, there not much option afaik17:18
timsimsilly Kiall17:18
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mugsieother than a new state17:18
Kialltimsim: derp. that's certainly going to cause pain and suffering17:18
timsimYeah.17:18
pglassyeah. depending on your periodic sync seconds, you could still have zones never propagating if the nameserver is down long17:18
federico3mugsie: why no much option?17:18
pglasslong enough*17:18
mugsieand .... not  huge fan of that17:18
timsimI thought we decided in Galway that another state would be the best solution?17:19
mugsiepglass: in that sort o case you should sync the zonefiles etc, befoer bringit back up17:19
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pglassright, but that is annoying17:19
timsimWith another state you could just do it in recovery.17:19
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mugsiefederico3: there is not many other options, other than syn17:19
rsyed2mugsie: why no new state?  adding complexity to logic?17:19
Kiallpglass: yea, that's something operators just need to be aware of I guess, after a long outage, set sync seconds to the duration of the outage or more, and let it recover.17:19
mugsieyeah17:19
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timsimI mean that logic is awful, but we should clean that up anyway, and then we can add that new state and make everything great again.17:20
mugsiersyed2: yeah - and it will be displayed to users, which canbe confusing17:20
timsimOh no don't display it to users.17:20
pglassbasically, you would have the new state, which reflects the true status on the nameserver.17:20
mugsiethen you have 2 state machines, one people can see, and one tht actually happened17:20
pglassthen you look at the state and the threshold to decide whether you display active or not17:20
timsimEhhh or you just say if status==almost_active display active in the api17:21
KiallThat feels dirty ;) Anyway! We should discuss the details separatly from triage :)17:21
rsyed2translating states for display is kind of annoying...17:21
rsyed2yeah17:21
mugsiethen how will an admin ever know if their zones are only partially sent out?17:21
rsyed2*yeah (to kiall)17:22
pglassyou don't know anyway, if your threshold percentage is < 10017:22
mugsieanyway - this bug needs to move -to something, or be closed17:22
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KiallMaybe leave it to the end. There's a mix of docs, perf fixes, and possible new code to help with thresh < 10017:22
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timsim"Opinion"? "Can be discussed". And we can discuss there on the bug?17:23
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Kialltimsim: sure17:23
mugsieYeah17:23
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timsimAlright cool, I'll do that.17:23
timsimmugsie action me to start some conversation on there17:24
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mugsie#action timsim to start convo on bug 161745417:24
openstackbug 1617454 in Designate "Changes do not propagate to downed/recovered nameservers, depending on threshold percentage" [Undecided,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161745417:24
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timsimThat's it :)17:25
mugsie\o/17:25
mugsie#topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring)17:25
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mugsieworker model17:25
Kiall#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/565255/17:25
KiallAs usual, take a few and nominate for backport.17:25
Kiallmugsie: LOL17:25
Kiallaf4613b Fix ZTA API to prevent HTTP 500 upon empty body17:26
mugsieaf4613b Fix ZTA API to prevent HTTP 500 upon empty body17:26
timsimhahahaha17:26
Kiall(BP is already up)17:26
Kiall97c5ab3 Merge "Use upper constraints for all jobs in tox.ini" ? Not sure about this one17:26
mugsiewe should17:26
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mugsiei think17:26
Kiall4458556 Fix recordset changes so that they preserve object changes fields - maybe? timsim thoughts?17:26
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timsimehhh. I don't think so it doesn't fix any actual functionality because nothing depends on that in mitaka.17:27
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mugsieyeah17:28
mugsiei think it is just tox, and ZTA17:28
mugsieany others?17:28
timsimnah. seems legit17:29
mugsieOK - anyone want to bp these?17:29
KiallI'll do ZTA API17:30
mugsie#action mugsie bp 97c5ab3 Merge "Use upper constraints for all jobs in tox.ini"17:30
Kialldone.17:30
mugsie:)17:30
mugsie#topic Open Dscussion17:30
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mugsieany of agenda items?17:30
KiallOh, LOL. It hasn't merged to master yet17:30
mugsieoff*17:30
KiallHappened to be in local clone17:30
mugsie-_-17:30
Kialltimsim / elarson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360613/ pls ;)17:30
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KiallI17:31
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timsimcould have sworn I did that17:31
timsimI think I did but gerrit was trippin'17:31
KiallYou +A'd the backport ;)17:31
timsim-_-17:31
KiallI've got 1 - we talked about it last week at the mid-cycle briefly, but powerdns gate is falling over wayy too often. It looks like a DBdeadlock in PowerDNS (yay!).17:31
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mugsieand the issue I had with horizon is happening from time to time in grenade now17:32
KiallAs part of trying to debug that, we got Designate logs sucked into logstash - so http://logstash.openstack.org/ will have logs from check/gate runs now to help triage failures over multiple runs17:32
KiallUse it :)17:32
mugsieuse what?17:33
mugsiethere is no output17:33
Kiall?17:33
KiallThere is loads of output17:33
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mugsiefor the horizon issue?17:33
mugsieor where youtalking in a more general sense?17:33
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KiallNo, I was taking about powerdns fails and in general ;)17:34
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mugsieoh - pglass - the 3rd party CI is not uploading logs17:34
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mugsiecan you fix it, or change thie link?17:35
timsimHe's afk, but I think he intends to have that working, so I'm sure he'll fix it17:36
mugsiecool17:36
mugsiewho wants 25 mins back?17:36
timsimNah let's stay17:36
timsimHow's seattle?17:36
mugsiegrand17:36
mugsiesleepless17:36
mugsie:)17:37
timsimAlright that's all I've got ;P17:37
timsimreview worker model17:37
mugsiehaha17:37
timsimOH WAIT17:37
timsim:fire:17:37
mugsie:thisisfine:17:37
mugsie#endmeeting17:37
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amrithmugsie is in seattle?17:56
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amrith#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 31 18:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:00
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songjiano/18:00
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dougshelley66o/18:00
spillao/18:00
amrithcourtesy ping for peterstac johnma dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk_18:00
aliadil_o/18:00
amrithcourtesy ping for ApsarShaik18:00
johnmaI am here amrith18:00
amrithhello18:00
dougshelley66mvandijk_ is off this week18:01
amrithlet's give folks a couple of minutes to get here18:01
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amrithsorry, had to update the agenda page18:03
amrithlet's get going18:03
amrith#topic action items from last week18:03
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amrithpeterstac got the non voting jobs in, they don't pass yet. py35 now passes and is voting.18:03
ApsarShaikhi18:03
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amrithalso some other restructuring of tox.ini has happened.18:04
amrithhi johnma dougshelley66 aliadil_ trevormc songjian ApsarShaik18:04
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amrithnext ... ApsarShaik to follow up with mistral on bug/160778818:04
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amrithApsarShaik, floor is yours18:04
amrithI see that the bug was fixed18:05
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amrith#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/160778818:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1607788 in Mistral "Cron Trigger failed to get openstack service authenticaton" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Shaik Apsar (sa709c)18:05
ApsarShaikit;s fixed18:05
amrithis that it?18:06
amrithanything further to add18:06
amrith.18:07
amrith#topic Trove pulse update18:07
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amrith#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing18:07
amrith#link https://gist.github.com/anonymous/08011b961edeeb6a4f44386217ab662818:07
amrithmore reviews last week (by a bit). have to keep it going because there will be more changes coming in the next few weeks18:08
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amrithas we get to the end of newton18:08
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amrithnice going trevormc!18:08
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amrithanyone have anything to add ...18:08
amrith.18:09
trevormcthanks amrith i'm working on getting better with reviews18:09
dougshelley66definitely will need more review bandwidth to get thru end of newton cycle18:09
amriththanks for the detailed comments trevormc18:09
amrithjust a perfunctory +1 or -1 is not as valuable as the details that you are providing. so thank you!18:10
amrithdougshelley66 ++18:10
amrithwill definitely need that18:10
amrithto all of you who are sitting there wondering why your code isn't getting reviewed, I'd like to suggest that you review some code as well.18:10
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amrithwe will need all the bandwidth we can get18:11
amrith#topic Newton release schedule18:11
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amrith#link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html18:11
amrithSo, this week is R-518:11
amrithand the client is currently at 2.5.0 and set to freeze18:12
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amrithat this point, if you have any fixes for things that must go in necessarily for newton, it is important that we get them in18:12
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dougshelley66at which milestone does master become ocata?18:12
amrithif you have server side code that is targeted for newton, and has a client side dependency, please make sure that your code in client 2.5.0 is working as expected.18:12
amrithdougshelley66, that should be just before R+0 if memory serves me correctly18:13
amrithNot quite R-2, maybe R-118:13
amrithI don't know for sure18:13
amrithalso it happens at different times for different projects18:13
amrithover a small period of time.18:13
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amrithat least, that's what I recall from M->N transition time.18:14
dougshelley66ok18:14
dougshelley66so sounds like about a month from now18:14
amrithdougshelley66, do you want me to get a specific date; are there things you are holding for master to be created?18:14
amrithI have some that I'm sitting on for now18:14
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amrithwhich I will -2/-1 till then18:14
amrithdo you have some as well?18:14
dougshelley66no - just wondered what the timing was18:15
amrithblueprints for trove-specs/ocata are open18:15
amrithok18:15
dougshelley66good to know18:15
amrithanything else re: release schedule?18:15
johnmaAmrith, are we talking about client changes or server changes as well18:15
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johnmaI have 2 features that need to go in for newton. Should I go ahead and put in request for FFE18:16
amrithat this point we are at feature freeze and client freeze18:16
amrithyes, if you need ffe's please send mail to the ML18:16
johnmaamrith: ok, will do that. Thanks18:17
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amrithI will tag n-3 tomorrow.18:17
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amrithand additional 'feature' patches will land with FFE18:18
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amrithwe have some of those18:18
amrithfor which client changes went in18:18
amrithat this point, the list of FFE's I'm seeing are18:19
amrith(just reading from the list now)18:19
amrithtrove workbook for scheduled backups18:19
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amrithquota management? doug is that FFE for newton?18:19
amrithinstance upgrade (https://review.openstack.org/326064)18:20
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amrithdougshelley66 ^^ re: https://review.openstack.org/33132318:20
amrithpeterstac, dougshelley66 https://review.openstack.org/30193618:21
amrithjohnma, you said you had two, correct?18:21
johnmathats right amrith. configuration mangement and online backups for DB218:22
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dougshelley66amrith those features were intended for newton18:22
amrithok. that is the list I'm currently tracking18:22
amrithyes, hence the FFE18:22
dougshelley66i think the client sides have merged18:22
amrithyes, n-3 is tomorrow and I doubt they'll all merge by then18:22
dougshelley66pgsql replication18:22
dougshelley66that still seems to be stuck18:23
amrithso if you and johnma send me a list, I'll handle them as FFE's.18:23
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/28871218:23
amrithis that the one?18:23
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amrithjohnma, is there a review for db2 backup18:24
amrithI'm not seeing one18:24
johnmaamrith: I need to push one up. Should put one out today. have some final tests to run18:24
amrithok, thx18:25
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dougshelley66amrith yes18:25
amrithdougshelley66, johnma please review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ZQDPrQ2aq018:26
amriththat's the list of 5 ffe's that I know of now, I understand that there will be a sixth for db2 backup18:26
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johnmaright, I will update it as soon as I push a changeset18:27
amriththx johnma18:27
amrithanything further re: n-3 and client freeze18:28
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ApsarShaikamirth18:28
amrithyes ApsarShaik18:28
ApsarShaikhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/340022/ this patch is not needed?18:29
dougshelley66amrith we can still merge patch sets for bugs just not blueprints, right?18:29
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amrithdougshelley66, absolutely18:29
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amrithn-3 is the deadline for 'featureful' changes. feature changes after N-3 upto RC1 with PTL approval.18:29
amrithper https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html18:29
amrithApsarShaik, is that patch a feature?18:30
amrithor a bug fix18:30
ApsarShaikbugfix18:30
amriththx for adding the link for that doug18:30
amrithI just mentioned it by name above withotu the link18:31
amrithApsarShaik, does that answer your question?18:31
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amrithanything further re: n-3 and client freeze?18:31
peterstacso all those on the FFE list won't need them if they merge by Friday, right?18:32
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amrithno, friday isn't the deadline, it is thursday18:32
amrithso if you can have them in by thursday, no ffe18:32
amrithafter thursday, ffe18:32
dougshelley66what about dashboard changes18:32
amrithdougshelley66, good point, I should add dashboard to my lis18:33
amrithlist18:33
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dougshelley66there are 10 dashboard patches18:34
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amrithdougshelley66, I list 5 as features and 5 as fixes18:35
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amrithno18:35
amrithno?18:35
dougshelley66sorry i should have qualified18:35
amrithI just added a dump of those 10 to the etherpad18:36
amrithpick the ones that are FFE'd18:36
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amrithsome are part of the same feature (with host changes)18:36
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amrithlmk what are ffe'd18:36
amrithok?18:36
dougshelley66ok18:36
amrithok, if no one has anything further on n-3, client freeze, ffe's, ...18:37
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songjianI am so sorry,Because of my depends on the cause of the error, so the client code has been the merge, but no server-side code... So I think that can consider to merge server add - disk - in - flavor - the list, if the change at the service there is no problem...https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352786/18:38
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amrithsongjian, done18:38
amrithI've added it to the list18:39
songjianthx18:39
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amritheveryone ok with the list https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ZQDPrQ2aq018:39
amrithdougshelley66, I took the ones from the list at the bottom and merged them into the earlier list18:41
johnmasounds good Amrith. So do we still have to send the request for FFE to the mailing list or are we good?18:41
dougshelley66looks good18:41
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pmalikCouchbase Cluster Support [dashboard]? We don't have that in the server.18:41
amrithjohnma, I'll take care of it as soon as I have your db2 backup review18:41
johnmaok, thanks18:41
amrithpmalik, are you saying that the code isn't up yet or that it has already merged?18:42
amrithor something else?18:42
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pmalikI don't think we even had an approved spec for it in this release...18:43
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amrithlet me look18:43
dougshelley66i'll pull that off the list18:43
peterstacI can't find one18:43
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amriththx doug18:44
amrithOK, let's scrub the list one more time, wait till we have the last change from johnma and then we can make the FFE's18:44
amrithbut in any event, all we get with FFE's is one extra week18:45
amrithso we have to get them merged ...18:45
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amrithok, moving along if we don't have anything further ...18:45
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amrith#topic Open Discussion18:46
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amrithanyone have anything for discussion ...18:47
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amrithok, so please spend time reviewing others code.18:48
trevormc+118:48
amrithit is community18:48
amrithand you reap what you sow ...18:48
amrithif no one has anything else to add, we can adjourn18:49
amrith#endmeeting18:49
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
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sbalukoffHowdy, folks!20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
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johnsomHi everyone20:00
fnavalhihi20:00
nmagnezihello20:00
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chenlihi20:00
johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
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johnsomI just want to remind folks that tomorrow is the last day to use your ATC codes for Barcelona without a fee.20:01
dougwigo/20:01
johnsomSo if you haven't already registered, do so now....20:01
sbalukoffEven if you think there's only a marginal chance you can attend.20:01
sbalukoffFree is free, eh.20:01
TrevorVI can't attend20:02
johnsomWe had a great mid-cycle last week, some notes are here:20:02
sbalukoffWell, we didn't want *you* to go anyway.20:02
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johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-midcycle20:02
sbalukoff;)20:02
rm_mobileo/20:02
TrevorVsbalukoff, don't make me cut you20:02
sbalukoffYes, the mid-cycle was awesome. Got a ton of stuff done.20:02
johnsomIt was a good kick off for the merge activities.20:02
johnsomAny other announcements?20:02
sbalukoffActive-active spec merged.20:03
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dougwignext week is newton FF.  anything you want to merge MUST be in gerrit by wednesday.20:03
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dougwigerr, wait, that's *TODAY*, isn't it?20:03
sbalukoffdougwig: Does that include docs?20:03
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sbalukoffI thought I'd have another week or two on them...20:03
nmagnezidougwig, i think it's today20:03
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sbalukoffOk, so feature freeze: If it ain't in today, it ain't in.20:04
dougwigif it's in gerrit today, you can ask for an FFE.  if it's not even in gerrit, you're SOL.20:04
johnsomYes, that is today.  This is for "features".  For Octavia I will not mind docs patches as they don't risk stability of the code.20:05
nmagnezihttps://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html20:05
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chenliCan the stats patches goes in today ? I think they're ready. :)20:05
TrevorV#link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html20:05
johnsomchenli link?20:06
chenlihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/354593/20:06
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354593/20:06
chenli#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355764/20:06
chenli#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356268/20:07
chenliand the neutron-lbaas side one :  #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357653/20:07
chenliTrevorV: thanks20:07
TrevorVnp chenli :)20:07
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johnsomOk, cores, let's have a look at this.20:08
sbalukoffOk20:08
TrevorVchenli, I'll take a look through them as well.20:08
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johnsomI am a bit worried about it as I know some teams have done internal work against stats, so please make sure it doesn't break your stuff20:09
chenlithanks all.  We really hope stats can at least be 'working' in this release.20:09
sbalukoffIndeed!20:10
johnsomAny other announcements?20:10
johnsomBTW, LBaaSv1 was removed from the code last week as well.  That is worthy of an announcement.20:10
sbalukoffHaha!20:10
sbalukoffYes, was just about to say that.20:10
nmagnezifinally :)20:10
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johnsomAlso, in other news, the normal LBaaS talk did not get accepted this year.20:11
johnsomSo, yeah, odd....20:11
johnsomMoving on...20:11
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:11
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sbalukoffDocs continue apace.20:12
fnavalcurrently still working on the first scenario test migrating from neutron-lbaas to octavia; hope to complete this week20:12
johnsomYep, I finished up my review on the quick start yesterday20:12
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sbalukoffAlso, Leslie (the Blue Box tech writer) got back yesterday from over a month of dealing with a family crisis; She's editing the two docs patches currently up for review now.20:12
TrevorVHad a sick weekend, did an internal task, will be working on the quota review again shortly.20:12
chenli#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358450/20:13
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FritoInternal stuff. Will be transitioning away from Octavia to another internal RAX team soon.20:13
sbalukoffI will also be snapping up other docs bugs over the next couple weeks which should hopefully encourage adoption for the Newton release.20:13
chenliit is about the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1615471.20:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1615471 in octavia "Failover fails when the amphora instance is stoped" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to li,chen (chen-li)20:13
johnsomI am finishing up the routes patch and will be looking at the intermittent bug I saw:161431120:14
sbalukoffSweet.20:14
johnsomnmagnezi also added this bug to the agenda:20:15
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344658/20:15
chenliThe git -C issue on Centos:  #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353265/20:15
johnsomThis one for lbaas20:15
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317862/20:15
johnsomYeah, chenli I still don't think that is the right approach on the CentOS issue.  I still need to do research on that20:16
nmagneziyup. this was already merged but got revered due to an issue that is now fixed. this is verified by the namespace scenario gate we fixed last week with the help of dougwig20:16
johnsomHe also raised the refactor patch:20:16
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346728/20:16
sbalukoffLots of stuff to review, eh.20:17
dougwigsbalukoff: like any FF.  :)20:18
johnsomYeah.20:18
sbalukoffYep!20:18
nmagnezi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/20:18
chenlijohnsom   The git -C one ? why ? -C is change the patch before --git-dir, using --git-dir directly should not affect anything.20:18
johnsomThis one I'm not sure about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317862/20:18
nmagnezithis was also in the agenda johnsom :)20:18
dougwiga patch to allow creation by net id instead of subnet id got submitted (similar to how nova does net id).  if anyone is interested, to have any hope of newton, it needs some thrashing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363302/20:18
johnsomDo we want to mess with tempest plugin work for neutron-lbaas?  Or just focus on the plugin for Octavia20:18
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sbalukoffjohnsom: Focus on OCtavia.20:19
fnavalOctavia focus fifrst20:19
fnavalfirst20:19
sbalukoffWe're hoping to get things merged in the "O" cycle, right? ;)20:20
nmagnezithe plugin for octavia is already merged, isn't it?20:20
johnsomYes20:20
fnavalthen once we have that good and working, perhaps apply that to neutron-lbaas afterwards20:20
chenliRemove network from amphorae when delete a member  #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347121/20:20
sbalukofffnaval: +120:20
johnsomnmagnezi As we are merging neutron-lbaas into Octavia, we may just want to focus on building out the tests in Octavia and not migrate neutron-lbaas to tempest plugin20:21
dougwigindeed, if that's done, and we swap to running octavia jobs in n-l, we can just stop running the n-l tests.20:21
fnavali also forsee that the tempest plugin dir structure that's needed in neutron-lbaas will not adhere, currently.  though, I might be wrong as well.  more resarch is needed20:22
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nmagnezijohnsom, perfectly understandable. but since it is not going to be completed in the upcoming release maybe it's worth considering20:22
sbalukoffIn Newton?20:23
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johnsomnmagnezi The plan is to complete it in Ocata20:23
sbalukoffOh, the tempest tests won't make it in there in any case.20:23
nmagnezisbalukoff, yes, Newton20:23
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johnsomFor Newton, yeah, since the tests won't be converted for Newton, this should probably what to merge until Ocata is opened20:24
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nmagnezijohnsom, that was my intention, you phrased it better :)20:25
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johnsomAh, ok20:25
johnsomSo, a bunch of stuff to review.  The list is long and given the deadline, some will likely not make it.20:25
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johnsomIf it doesn't, I'm sure it will land early in Ocata20:26
sbalukoffYep.20:27
johnsom#topic Patches requiring discussion/consensus20:27
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johnsomAny other patch related discussion today?20:27
nmagnezii really hope to at least have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344658/ merged. as they give some sort of flexibility  (HA wise) for those who still did not migrate to Octavia atm.20:27
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nmagnezijohnsom, not on my end.20:28
bana_kneed some input on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355115/20:28
sbalukoffGotta remember how to run the namespace driver. It's been a loooooong time since I've done that.20:28
bana_kabout the test cases20:28
dougwigsbalukoff: fire up a new devstack, is the easiest way.20:28
bana_kas I mentioned in the last comment of the patch20:28
nmagnezisbalukoff, it's actually kinda simple, i can share my local.conf if it helps20:28
sbalukoffnmagnezi: Sure. Send it to me.20:28
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TrevorVGuys, drop that "#link" before your links so it can be tracked easily in the notes.20:29
sbalukoff(Not in this meeting, obviously.)20:29
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/20:29
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344658/20:29
johnsomsbalukoff It looks like you have a -1 on bana_k's patch20:29
TrevorV#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355115/20:29
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dougwigto make trevorv happy:20:30
dougwig#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363302/20:30
sbalukoffHuh. Ok. I'll have to have another look at it, then.20:30
chenliOnly me facing the bug: #link  https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1615471 ?? Can not believe that. :(20:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1615471 in octavia "Failover fails when the amphora instance is stoped" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to li,chen (chen-li)20:30
bana_kthanks johnsom sbalukoff20:30
nmagnezisbalukoff, how to run haproxy namespace driver #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1613251/comments/120:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1613251 in neutron "HAproxy scenario tests cleanup fail with a StaleDataError (LBaaSv1 and LBaaSv2)" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi)20:31
TrevorV#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/161547120:31
TrevorVBot commands have to be alone on their lines... sorry chenli20:31
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chenliTrevorV: O!20:32
johnsomchenli I expect stopping amphora nova instances is a rare occurrence.  I just want to make sure to test that heavily as the previous patch was20:32
chenlijohnsom, i believe all failover fails due to the same reason.... At least that happens in my tests20:33
johnsomOnce I get some test runs, that will be a quick merge20:33
johnsomchenli, no, with the recent failover patch it went through a bunch of testing, like 30+ test grid20:33
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chenlijohnsom, the bug is actually very easy to reproduce. Use a non-admin user to create a loadbalancer, and allow neutron-lbaas create the vip port (the default conifg in devstack)20:34
johnsomSo unless something changed in the last week or so that broke it, it was working really well20:34
chenlijohnsom: nova would check the project-id for port and nova instance, thus==> nova would complain the project id is not the same.20:35
chenlijohnsom I just re-produced it in a whole new set-up yesterday.20:35
chenlijohnsom and the new set-up is not installed by myself.20:35
johnsomHmm, I will have a look.  The ports are plugged into the nova instance and all of them should be owned by the lbaas project20:36
johnsomNone of them should be owned by the tenant20:37
chenlijohnsom doesn't we only plug the vrrp port, and set the vip as the address_pair to the vrrp port ?20:37
johnsomYes, and neutron creates a port for the aap address20:37
chenlijohnsom: then no need to plug vip port to amphora directly20:38
johnsomI agree on the surface, but previously we were only plugging the port your patch proposes to not plug, so I want to do more testing on this patch.20:38
chenliI think when neutron-lbaas create the vip port, it use user's credential.20:38
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chenliI didn't change the plug for vrrp port, just remove the vip port plug.20:39
johnsomAs I said before, it needs more research and testing.20:39
chenlisure!20:40
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:40
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johnsomOk, other topics today?20:40
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sbalukoff*crickets*20:41
sbalukoffJinx!20:41
nmagnezilol20:41
Fritolol20:41
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johnsomOk, so just a lot of patches to see if we can merge.20:41
nmagneziso what octavia related talks got accepted?20:41
sbalukoffNone.20:41
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sbalukoffNo LBaaS talks either.20:41
dougwignmagnezi: none.  no load balancing talks *at all*.20:41
johnsomnmagnezi Sadly, no LBaaS related talks got accepted20:41
nmagnezithat's very sad20:41
sbalukoffAnd very few relevant Neutron talks.20:41
dougwigthe talks this year are heavily NFV, and don't represent the actual networking community much at all.20:42
dougwigIMO20:42
sbalukoffYeah, it's pretty crap.20:42
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johnsomYeah, given it was the #1 feature users were interested in from the last user survey I think it is very sad20:42
sbalukoffSo hey! Barcelona will probably feature me sitting in a hallway doing mid-cycle type stuff. Y'all are welcome to join me!20:42
dougwigsbalukoff: i'm in20:42
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nmagnezii actually learned  a lot from your sessions in past summits. shame we won't have another one like this in the near summit.20:43
johnsomYeah, I want to have a LBaaS community discussion meeting and then find a table and work on merge activities personally20:43
diltramunfortunately I'm not going so I will not join20:43
sbalukoffnmagnezi: Come join us in the hall. :D20:43
nmagnezisbalukoff, sadly i can't travel this time. I hope next time I will join you :)20:43
johnsomdiltram you can join us in the virtual hall known as IRC....  grin20:43
sbalukoffYep!20:43
* TrevorV isn't invited20:43
sbalukoffSo can you nmagnezi!20:43
diltramjohnsom: true :)20:44
sbalukoffNo, we don't want to see you TrevorV.20:44
diltramthis is my plan :)20:44
sbalukoff;)20:44
johnsomOk folks.  Let's get busy with reviews.20:44
sbalukoffSeriously though, I appreciate your work, TrevorV.20:44
nmagnezisbalukoff, where can i find details about this? (time, date, how to connect)20:44
sbalukoffEven when it does break L7 in ways we didn't notice for months. XD20:44
diltramhahahaha ;P20:44
sbalukoffnmagnezi: Well, if you're not there in person, the place to be is the #openstack-lbaas channel on IRC.20:45
johnsomnmagnezi Why don't you ping us when it gets a little closer.  We should know where the neutron-ish rooms will be20:45
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johnsomOh, yeah, remote, it will be IRC.  Likely on Barcelona time20:45
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sbalukoffYep.20:45
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sbalukoffWe might be able to do some video stuff if we can find a place where we won't be disturbing others, and if the bandwidth doesn't suck.20:46
sbalukoffBut the surest bet is IRC.20:46
nmagnezisbalukoff, johnsom, ack. i hope I can make it (timezone diffs, it's almost midnight here)20:46
TrevorVsbalukoff, that's you're fault too, I think you were a +2 on it20:46
TrevorVo_020:46
johnsomYeah, ummm, when has bandwidth not sucked at a summit????20:46
johnsomOk, thanks folks!20:47
sbalukoffTrevorV: Oh yes, I never said I wan't also culpable. ;)20:47
johnsom#endmeeting20:47
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TrevorVggwp later guys20:47
sbalukoffThanks folks!20:47
fnavalthanks!20:47
nmagnezibye for now :)20:47
chenlibye !20:47
diltramcu20:47
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dougwighonestly, we make lots of remote promises, but when most of us are in a room, it usually goes out the window. i wouldn't count on it.  and not wanting to sound dickish, thought i might, that's the point of flying there.  we could *all* be remote on video for much cheaper.20:48
sbalukoffdougwig: True.20:49
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