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| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 13:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:00 |
| dirk | ping dirk toabctl IgorYozhikov number80 jruzicka | 13:00 |
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| IgorYozhikov | o/ | 13:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 13:00 |
| number80 | o/ | 13:00 |
| dirk | #chair IgorYozhikov toabctl | 13:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk toabctl | 13:00 |
| dirk | #chair IgorYozhikov toabctl number80 | 13:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk number80 toabctl | 13:00 |
| dirk | #topic roll call | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:01 | |
| dirk | everyone, please review/update agenda on | 13:01 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:01 |
| jpena | o/ | 13:02 |
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| itxaka | o/ | 13:03 |
| dirk | toabctl: did you want to add it for next meeting or for todays meeting? | 13:05 |
| toabctl | oh. todays meeting | 13:05 |
| toabctl | should we start? | 13:06 |
| dirk | #topic Newton schedule update | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton schedule update (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:06 | |
| dirk | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 13:06 |
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| dirk | as a reminder - | 13:06 |
| dirk | this week (today) there is the upstream requirements freeze | 13:06 |
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| dirk | which means we can start looking more closely at matching the packaging for newton | 13:06 |
| dirk | I know that from the sUSE side toabctl and others are already working on that | 13:07 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, are you about updating of reqs ? | 13:07 |
| dirk | How does it look from Red Hat/Mirantis side? | 13:07 |
| IgorYozhikov | according to last U-C? | 13:07 |
| dirk | I've see lots of reviews from Javier and others | 13:07 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: of possible we use UC, but there might be product specific issues with non-openstack components that require us to choose something else | 13:08 |
| dirk | s,of possible,if possible, | 13:08 |
| IgorYozhikov | i c | 13:08 |
| number80 | well, in pratice, oslo + clients should to stick to UC as nobody tests against master | 13:08 |
| number80 | for our downstream CD, we have both: full master and master + UC for clients/oslo | 13:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | from mos side - we are trying to back-port new projects in case of necessity | 13:09 |
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| IgorYozhikov | our CI is using if you saw our packages + centos as dependencies | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | as in build as in tests | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | our CI doing 3 steps | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | build, publish and install | 13:10 |
| dirk | Also, we intend to ship the rpm-packaging spec file results in the upcoming openSUSE Leap 42.2 release | 13:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | so it test requirements everywhere | 13:11 |
| dirk | I hope that they would end up also in other distributions releases | 13:11 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, in our just started iteration we planned to reuse all what we have done in rpm-packaging | 13:12 |
| number80 | that's the long-term plan, but there's still a gap we need to bridge in renderspec (jruzicka is working on that) | 13:12 |
| IgorYozhikov | during packaging rounf for Newton b2 we reused about 40% of prm-packaging | 13:12 |
| IgorYozhikov | s/rounf/round/ | 13:12 |
| toabctl | I think we use ~90-95% if the specs currently. | 13:13 |
| dirk | number80: I'd love to hear about the gaps though | 13:13 |
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| dirk | ok, 2nd topic I wanted to bring out | 13:13 |
| dirk | bring up | 13:13 |
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| dirk | In two weeks, there is the Ocata cycle PTL self nomination period | 13:13 |
| number80 | dirk: one I think of is how to handle l10n, which requires some magic | 13:13 |
| dirk | Please think about whether you want to be a candidate | 13:14 |
| IgorYozhikov | falks, sorry bbs @10 min :( | 13:14 |
| number80 | ack | 13:14 |
| dirk | and bring it up, here, in our channel or on the mailing list when the nomination period starts | 13:14 |
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| dirk | #topic feedback for renderspec improvals (see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360919/ ) (toabctl) | 13:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "feedback for renderspec improvals (see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360919/ ) (toabctl) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:16 | |
| dirk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360919/ | 13:16 |
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| dirk | toabctl? | 13:17 |
| toabctl | I created recently a project called metaextract which gets the install_requires, tests_require and extras_require from a setup.py | 13:17 |
| toabctl | with that we could start automating the Requires and BuildRequires sections. I created a POC which needs some more love but initial feedback would be very welcome! | 13:17 |
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| toabctl | I think there's not more to say about it currently. | 13:19 |
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| dirk | ok, thanks | 13:19 |
| toabctl | but given the amount of specs we already have we need to automate more. | 13:19 |
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| dirk | yeah, I actually recently got a request on why we don't have openstack spec files yet | 13:20 |
| dirk | people are looking for it but are confused on why we only have the clients | 13:20 |
| dirk | next topic? | 13:20 |
| * IgorYozhikov back | 13:21 | |
| toabctl | yes. next | 13:21 |
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| dirk | #topic python3 renderspec | 13:22 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "python3 renderspec (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:22 | |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-python3-renderspec | 13:22 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov? | 13:22 |
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| * dirk didn't have time to read through the etherpad yet | 13:23 | |
| number80 | I think Igor left for ten min | 13:23 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, I'm here | 13:23 |
| IgorYozhikov | :) | 13:23 |
| number80 | great | 13:23 |
| dirk | anything you want to say to it? | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | we where waiting for you dirk - to discuss this topic about using py3 for renderspec | 13:24 |
| dirk | I see | 13:24 |
| dirk | ok, I'll get to it and start a discussion on irc within this week | 13:24 |
| dirk | ok? | 13:24 |
| dirk | I'm only back since yesterday and there were a few things to take care of | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes, please read my thought. | 13:25 |
| dirk | #topic Extend pymod2pkg to include mapping between PyPi module name and OpenStack project name | 13:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Extend pymod2pkg to include mapping between PyPi module name and OpenStack project name (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:25 | |
| IgorYozhikov | just want to understand - how we are going to work with py3 | 13:25 |
| dirk | #action dirk get back to IgorYozhikov on the python3 proposal | 13:25 |
| dirk | jpena: are you around? | 13:25 |
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| jpena | yes, I'm here | 13:25 |
| number80 | I think we're lacking a proper rpm spec parser | 13:26 |
| jpena | so currently pymod2pkg is providing mappings for PyPi project names fo suse/fedora packages | 13:26 |
| number80 | most of python3 boilerplate can be generated with few macros | 13:26 |
| jpena | and in some cases, it would be nice to have a mapping between PyPi project/OpenStack project (it's not 1:1 all the time) | 13:26 |
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| jpena | I've been playing with a patch to add that mapping, but I wanted to check before | 13:27 |
| jpena | is that something that matches the pymod2pkg purpose? | 13:27 |
| number80 | I guess, it could work (I see also benefit for downstream rdoinfo too) | 13:27 |
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| dirk | jpena: sound sgood to me | 13:28 |
| dirk | jpena: should be okay to keep the exception list | 13:28 |
| dirk | you need that for the URL:/Source: lines? | 13:28 |
| dirk | is there a review already? | 13:29 |
| jpena | dirk: I could use it for our DLRN implementation. That way, we could clone the github repo using that mapping, then use the Version: field to find the proper tag | 13:29 |
| jpena | dirk: no, I'll upload the review after the meeting | 13:29 |
| dirk | ok | 13:30 |
| number80 | jpena: add jruzicka as a reviewer, it may impact his tooling | 13:30 |
| dirk | #action jpena post review | 13:30 |
| jpena | number80: ack | 13:30 |
| dirk | #topic Including test directories in package | 13:30 |
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| jpena | that's also mine | 13:30 |
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| jpena | I've noticed we include the test directories for every repo in our packages. This is different to what we do in RDO (separate test packages), just wanted to know if it's on purpose | 13:31 |
| dirk | so this is about splitting tests into -test subpackage or in the main package (or not at all)? | 13:31 |
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| jpena | dirk: exact | 13:31 |
| dirk | I think I prefer an extra -test pacakge but I don't have a strong opinion | 13:31 |
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| number80 | tests have a lot of deps, so +1 to split them out | 13:32 |
| jpena | that would have an impact on some packages. For example, I've seen openstackclient requires tests from osc-lib | 13:32 |
| number80 | otherwise, I wouldn't care of keeping them | 13:32 |
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| jpena | I meant muranoclient | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | jpena, you are proposing to add extra foo-test.rpm which is going to do almost the same things like in %check section? | 13:33 |
| number80 | jpena: runtime stuff requiring test utils? | 13:33 |
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| number80 | IgorYozhikov: nope, shipping test files in a separate subpackage | 13:33 |
| jpena | number80: no, during build | 13:33 |
| number80 | jpena: we choose as a policy to run tests as much as possible at build time | 13:34 |
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| IgorYozhikov | might be more useful to make am example? | 13:34 |
| jpena | IgorYozhikov, as an example, we have https://github.com/openstack/osc-lib/tree/master/osc_lib | 13:34 |
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| jpena | there is a tests/ directory inside the repo, which includes the test we run during %check | 13:34 |
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| jpena | they're only useful to us during build, but we package them because they get installed during %install | 13:35 |
| jpena | however, during build, some packages require tests from other packages (muranoclient), so it'd be good to have a separate -tests subpackage for osc-lib, and have that as a BuildRequires | 13:35 |
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| IgorYozhikov | python-osc-lib - with py2 code | 13:36 |
| IgorYozhikov | python-osc-lib-test - with py2 tests folder for osc-lib? | 13:37 |
| jpena | exact | 13:37 |
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| itxaka | wait, so muranoclient requires the tests from osc-lib? its not enough with osc-lib package? That sounds wrong :/ | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | and py*client will need BuildRequires: python-osc-lib-test ? | 13:38 |
| * IgorYozhikov confused | 13:38 | |
| jpena | IgorYozhikov, if they need to use tests from osc-lib, yes | 13:38 |
| jpena | itxaka: https://github.com/openstack/python-muranoclient/blob/master/muranoclient/tests/unit/osc/v1/fakes.py#L14 | 13:39 |
| jpena | that's the example I've found (maybe there are more?) | 13:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | from osc_lib.tests import utils | 13:40 |
| jpena | from the OpenStack project point of view, they just require the PyPi package, and it includes everything. It might be easier for us to follow them, I just wanted to make sure it was a conscious choice | 13:40 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/blob/cccc7f7fb0cecb585a8a250c11c22e2135838b47/neutronclient/tests/unit/osc/v2/trunk/test_network_trunk.py#L21 | 13:40 |
| IgorYozhikov | same here | 13:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | jpena, more || les I've got your pint | 13:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | but will extracted tests work without main lib code? | 13:41 |
| itxaka | wow | 13:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | just curious | 13:42 |
| jpena | IgorYozhikov, no, for that the -test subpackage needs to Require: the main one | 13:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | so why do we need to extract tests then ? | 13:43 |
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| IgorYozhikov | just to create lightweight main python lib rpm package? | 13:43 |
| * IgorYozhikov trying to understand | 13:44 | |
| itxaka | but in this case the test dir is an integral test of the osc_lib package so we should not split it ever, even if that is super wrong | 13:44 |
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| jpena | that's why I asked :). We can think of it two ways: a) remove unnecessary code for installation (so split), b) tests are part of the code (so keep) | 13:44 |
| jpena | I'm not 100% convinced on any of them | 13:45 |
| toabctl | jpena, do we have currently a problem with the way it is? | 13:45 |
| itxaka | What do we gain by splitting the packages? less BuildRequires? | 13:45 |
| jpena | toabctl: not really, just if we dislike seeing the tests/ directory in the package | 13:46 |
| toabctl | itxaka, yes. less possible dependency cycles | 13:46 |
| dirk | one advantage you have of -test packages is that you can install them and then run the tests | 13:47 |
| toabctl | jpena, I'm currently fine with having them in the packages. but I would also be fine if somebody is doing the work and split the packages. | 13:47 |
| dirk | instead of having them run during build times | 13:47 |
| number80 | yes | 13:47 |
| dirk | but it is a lot of painful work to keep that running, and getting patches for that upstream is difficult | 13:47 |
| dirk | speaking from past experience | 13:47 |
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| jpena | ok, let's keep them for now, then split if we feel the need | 13:48 |
| dirk | so can we summarize that we keep all the tests in python-$name package ? | 13:49 |
| toabctl | just 10 min left. let's go to the next topic. | 13:49 |
| toabctl | dirk, +1 | 13:49 |
| jpena | +1 | 13:49 |
| IgorYozhikov | +1 (¯―¯٥) | 13:49 |
| itxaka | +1 | 13:49 |
| dirk | #agreed keep tests inside main package for now, revisit topic potentially later | 13:49 |
| dirk | #topic Core reviewer additions (dirk) | 13:49 |
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| dirk | I was wondering whether we'd be interested in adding further core reviewers alongway, especially with the ocata cycle upcoming | 13:50 |
| dirk | I already reached out to jpena and aplanas, jpena said he'd be interested | 13:50 |
| number80 | dirk: I was thinking about increasing the pool post-GA too | 13:50 |
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| dirk | any comments/suggestions/opinions? | 13:50 |
| toabctl | +1 for both. | 13:50 |
| number80 | I think both are good candidates | 13:50 |
| itxaka | +1 | 13:50 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk agree | 13:50 |
| dirk | aplanas actually asked to not become core for now | 13:51 |
| dirk | fwiw | 13:51 |
| toabctl | they already do reviews and having more persons being able to add +2's would be good | 13:51 |
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| dirk | number80: so are you good with adding people now or do you want them only for ocata+ü | 13:51 |
| dirk | ocata++ | 13:51 |
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| number80 | dirk: I'm fine with both | 13:52 |
| number80 | In aplanas case, I'd definitively revisit his case post-GA if he changes his mind by then | 13:52 |
| dirk | so I suggest to create a mailing list posting on openstack-dev and I would invite the existing cores to +1/-1 that | 13:52 |
| number80 | ack | 13:53 |
| * dirk would start that | 13:53 | |
| IgorYozhikov | ++ | 13:53 |
| toabctl | +1 | 13:53 |
| dirk | #topic open floor | 13:53 |
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| dirk | #action dirk send mail about new core members to openstack-dev | 13:53 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, what is your opinion about Barcelona | 13:53 |
| IgorYozhikov | fishbowl || work-session | 13:54 |
| * toabctl will most likely not be in Barcelona | 13:54 | |
| IgorYozhikov | may be combined with deb | 13:54 |
| number80 | let's say work-session and fishbowl combined with deb folks | 13:54 |
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| IgorYozhikov | to discuss availability to do the same build "machine" using infra resources | 13:55 |
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| IgorYozhikov | as already done for deb with help of Paul Belanger | 13:55 |
| dirk | ah, good point | 13:55 |
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| dirk | so there was a mail asking for input on barcelona sessions a few weeks ago, during my vacation | 13:56 |
| IgorYozhikov | zigo, if u r here ^^^^ | 13:56 |
| dirk | I responded to that with the results of what we discussed in june | 13:56 |
| dirk | I requested 1 fishbowl, possibly co-located with deb-packaging and two work sessions | 13:56 |
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| dirk | no contributor day session | 13:56 |
| dirk | to summarize, barcelona is really crowded | 13:56 |
| dirk | it is shorter and in order to remove overlap with other tracks the design tracks are just two days iirc | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, now or in future summit? | 13:57 |
| dirk | and contributor day is only half a day | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | oh, got it | 13:57 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: just talking about barcelona, I don't recall the future planning | 13:57 |
| dirk | there was some discussion about it somewhere, but I forgot the details | 13:58 |
| dirk | so to meet the deadline I submitted request for 1 fishbowl and two work sessions | 13:58 |
| dirk | I haven't heard anything back yet | 13:58 |
| IgorYozhikov | i c | 13:58 |
| dirk | so we'll see. I think we're a small enough group so that we can gather somewhere else as well | 13:58 |
| IgorYozhikov | thanx anyway | 13:59 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: it should match what you suggested, except that its two work sessions | 13:59 |
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| dirk | I'd like to focus one on the upstream rpm packaging building effort and one at least on general topics | 13:59 |
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| dirk | anyway, we have to end this | 14:00 |
| dirk | due to time constraints.. lets continue with the packaging reviews that I skipped in #openstack-rpm-packaging | 14:00 |
| dirk | thanks, see you next week! | 14:00 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 14:00:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-09-01-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-09-01-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | yey, c u | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-09-01-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
| m3m0 | #startmeeting freezer | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 14:00:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:01 |
| szaher | hey m3m0 \m/ | 14:01 |
| yangyape_ | hello guys | 14:01 |
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| timothyb89 | hi all | 14:03 |
| ddieterly | hi | 14:03 |
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| m3m0 | hey guys | 14:05 |
| slashme | Hi | 14:05 |
| m3m0 | so, we have a blank agenda for today | 14:05 |
| m3m0 | so a little stand up? | 14:05 |
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| zhusz | #startmeeting freezer | 14:08 |
| openstack | zhusz: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 14:08 |
| zhusz | #endmeeting | 14:08 |
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| szaher | zhusz: the meeting already started ! | 14:08 |
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| domhnallw | m3m0, standup... comedy? | 14:09 |
| zhusz | szaher: ok | 14:09 |
| yangyape_ | pending review ? | 14:10 |
| yangyape_ | okay, please review the patch. thank you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338679/ | 14:11 |
| zhusz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355818/ also | 14:12 |
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| daemontool | o/ | 14:12 |
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| m3m0 | hello guys, please review this commits | 14:15 |
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| daemontool | hi m3m0 | 14:17 |
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| m3m0 | daemontool: hey daemontool, how are you? | 14:19 |
| daemontool | all good here m3m0 | 14:19 |
| m3m0 | BTW did you get my whatsapp? | 14:19 |
| daemontool | mmhh nope | 14:19 |
| daemontool | :( | 14:19 |
| m3m0 | where are you? | 14:19 |
| daemontool | Italy | 14:19 |
| m3m0 | what about the earthquake? | 14:20 |
| daemontool | all good | 14:20 |
| daemontool | thanks let's talk about this on the chan later :) | 14:20 |
| daemontool | no meeting today? | 14:20 |
| m3m0 | yes, but we don't have topics | 14:20 |
| daemontool | ah ok | 14:20 |
| m3m0 | most of the people are busy and just waiting for reviews | 14:20 |
| daemontool | it's only me and you? | 14:21 |
| daemontool | ok | 14:21 |
| m3m0 | do you have any topics you would like to disucss? | 14:21 |
| m3m0 | no no we are like 6 | 14:21 |
| daemontool | fom the lab tests here | 14:21 |
| daemontool | there was some stability issue | 14:21 |
| daemontool | with es | 14:21 |
| daemontool | I think we need to support mysql | 14:21 |
| daemontool | to store metadata | 14:21 |
| daemontool | from the api | 14:21 |
| yangyape_ | agree suport mysql | 14:22 |
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| daemontool | that will provide significant stability more | 14:22 |
| daemontool | another thing is that I'd like to propose yangyape_ as core | 14:22 |
| m3m0 | the change is relatively easy, but we need to prioritize this | 14:22 |
| m3m0 | he is core already | 14:22 |
| yangyape_ | daemontool: thank you | 14:22 |
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| daemontool | ah ok | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | well | 14:30 |
| daemontool | good | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | I guess we don't have any topics today | 14:30 |
| daemontool | I can try to work on the mysql thing | 14:30 |
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| daemontool | but I need to have the bp done if possible | 14:30 |
| daemontool | as I have little time | 14:30 |
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| daemontool | for that | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | #action daemontool to port freezer-api from elasticsearch to mysql | 14:30 |
| m3m0 | :) | 14:30 |
| daemontool | like pointers on where the code to modify is and so on | 14:31 |
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| m3m0 | we just need to change the db layer in elastic.py | 14:31 |
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| m3m0 | can we close the meeting then? | 14:44 |
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| zhusz | It's OK for me. | 14:45 |
| m3m0 | let's move to freezer channel | 14:46 |
| m3m0 | thanks everyone | 14:46 |
| m3m0 | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 14:46:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-09-01-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-09-01-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 15:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| jseiler_ | hi | 15:00 |
| markstur | hello | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
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| zhongjun_ | hi | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| tovchinnikova | \\// | 15:00 |
| aovchinnikov | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | Feature freeze is today! | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| toabctl | hey | 15:01 |
| bswartz | there are some final patches still working their way through the gate, but I plan to tag our projects ASAP | 15:01 |
| bswartz | if you have something that needs merged and it isn't workflowed already, you've missed the train | 15:02 |
| ganso | hello | 15:02 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | I'll be in the channel all day today watching things merge | 15:02 |
| ganso | bswartz: has this missed the train? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284034/20 | 15:02 |
| bswartz | ganso: no, go aheand and workflow that one if you're happy with it | 15:03 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: what time are you planning to make the cut today? | 15:03 |
| bswartz | xyang2: when the gate empties out | 15:04 |
| ganso | bswartz: waiting for a proper jenkins check before doing so | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | if we get unlucky a recheck or 2 could be needed | 15:04 |
| bswartz | fortunately things aren't as bad now as they've been in past releases | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | thanks to ganso for fixing our largest gate instability bug last week | 15:05 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:05 |
| ganso | o> | 15:05 |
| bswartz | I will be on vacation Friday and Monday | 15:05 |
| bswartz | and my vacation will start today as soon as the tags for N-3 merge | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | but I'll be in the channel until then so ping me if there's anything we missed or anything that needs attention | 15:06 |
| bswartz | #topic mascot | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mascot (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:07 | |
| markstur | the suspense... | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so we chose "gorilla" for our official manila team logo, as requested by the foundation | 15:07 |
| bswartz | however, it's come to my attention that if you google "manila gorilla" you get some colorful links | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | including one from urban dictionary about men with very large penises | 15:08 |
| * dustins thanks bswartz for saving me the google search on the corporate net | 15:09 | |
| * gouthamr adds a downvote | 15:09 | |
| cknight | bswartz: and…what's the problem? | 15:09 |
| ganso | lol | 15:09 |
| bswartz | also, the term apparently has some (midly) racially offensive undertones | 15:09 |
| bswartz | so the foundation has asked us if we want to change the logo | 15:09 |
| markstur | so we can change the project name to "zilla"? | 15:09 |
| ganso | what was the 2nd most voted mascot? | 15:10 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: what was the second voted choice? | 15:10 |
| tovchinnikova | I suggest zorilla again! | 15:10 |
| bswartz | personally, I don't think we need to worry about being associated with random things on urban dictionary | 15:10 |
| dustins | Was it the box turtle? | 15:10 |
| xyang2 | was it kangaroo? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | but I wanted to know what you all though | 15:10 |
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| markstur | manila ice | 15:10 |
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| tovchinnikova | Almost gorilla but totally different animal, cute and small skunk | 15:10 |
| cknight | markstur: +1 | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | so the problem is that there was a 3-way tie for #2 in the voting | 15:11 |
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| dustins | heh, of course there was | 15:11 |
| bswartz | and if we have to choose another we'll have to do the vote over again | 15:11 |
| ganso | tovchinnikova: and stinky? | 15:11 |
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| tovchinnikova | no | 15:11 |
| xyang2 | we should probably google it before voting again | 15:11 |
| tovchinnikova | looks like skunk, not smells | 15:11 |
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| ganso | tovchinnikova: but then the mascot will look exactly like the skunk | 15:11 |
| zhongjun_ | and make sure the animal not be used in other project | 15:12 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: what were the 3 way ties | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | so let's do a vote to see how much interest there is in dropping gorilla | 15:12 |
| tovchinnikova | honey badger + kitty, that's what it looks like | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | honey badgers are so cool | 15:12 |
| markstur | go badgers! | 15:12 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: google results look horrible | 15:12 |
| tovchinnikova | AND honey badgers dont care))) | 15:12 |
| bswartz | #startvote Should we drop the gorilla logo and choose another one? Yes, No | 15:12 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we drop the gorilla logo and choose another one? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 15:13 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 15:13 |
| markstur | xyang2, <-- just had to google it | 15:13 |
| bswartz | #vote no | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | #vote No | 15:13 |
| xyang2 | #vote yes | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | #vote No | 15:13 |
| rraja | #vote no | 15:13 |
| jseiler_ | #vote no | 15:13 |
| dustins | #vote yes | 15:13 |
| zhongjun_ | #vote yes | 15:13 |
| tovchinnikova | #vote yes | 15:13 |
| ganso | #vote yes | 15:13 |
| Yogi1 | #vote yes | 15:13 |
| toabctl | #vote no | 15:13 |
| markstur | #vote no | 15:14 |
| aovchinnikov | #vote yes | 15:14 |
| bswartz | 30 more seconds | 15:14 |
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| cknight | #vote no | 15:14 |
| markstur | I wwould have said maybe, but was afraid you'd make me the tie breaker | 15:14 |
| xyang2 | Is Victoria here? | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #endvote | 15:14 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we drop the gorilla logo and choose another one?" Results are | 15:14 |
| openstack | Yes (7): ganso, tovchinnikova, Yogi1, zhongjun_, aovchinnikov, xyang2, dustins | 15:14 |
| openstack | No (8): bswartz, toabctl, rraja, gouthamr, cknight, vponomaryov, markstur, jseiler_ | 15:14 |
| bswartz | Hmm it's close | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | I'm going to err on the side of caution and say we should probably change the logo | 15:15 |
| bswartz | if half the people here are worried about it, then we have a problem | 15:15 |
| tbarron | bswartz: good call | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-mascot-brainstorm | 15:16 |
| bswartz | I will start a new poll with the options from this etherpad, minus gorilla | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | also I'm less than satisfied with surveymonkey so I'm going to try to do a more proper vote like we do for elections | 15:17 |
| bswartz | expect a voting link on the ML | 15:18 |
| bswartz | we won't have long to make a new decision because artwork is already being produced | 15:18 |
| markstur | zorilla's are darn cute, but I question tovchinnikova about "almost a gorilla" | 15:18 |
| bswartz | the foundation kindly put us at the end of the artwork queue due to the concerns about our selection | 15:18 |
| bswartz | okay enough on that topic | 15:19 |
| tovchinnikova | markstur, I meant literally, one letter to change | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | #topic Vulnerability Management | 15:19 |
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| ganso | tovchinnikova: could have the argument that it was mispelled | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/102548.html | 15:20 |
| bswartz | so we applied for the vulnerability:managed project tag from the TC and discovered that it's not a small amount of work | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | we need volunteers to step up and take on the responsibilities outlined in fungi's ML post if we're going to get that tag | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | I was in favor of getting the tag when I thought that it was just a matter of doing embargoed disclosure of security bugs | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | but all of the rest of this is more like a part time job for somebody | 15:23 |
| fungi | bswartz: yep, that's why we outlined the requirements in the tag description | 15:23 |
| cknight | bswartz: agreed it's non trivial. how important is having the tag? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | fungi: indeed | 15:23 |
| fungi | it's the only way to scale the vmt, which is otherwise necessarily size constrained to keep vulnerabilities under wraps successfully until they can be disclosed in a coordinated manner | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | cknight: that's precisely my question | 15:24 |
| tbarron | bswartz: so you need volunteers for "a reasonable subset of | 15:25 |
| tbarron | those who are willing to act as the next line of triage after the | 15:25 |
| tbarron | VMT hands off a suspected vulnerability report under embargo." | 15:25 |
| tbarron | right? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | is there anyone who urgently needs manila to follow the whole VMT process, or are people happy with the old way of handling security issues | 15:25 |
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| tbarron | I can check if we have a business need. | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I'm willing to be the point of contact person and to manage embargoed disclosure of bugs, but there is the issue of the independent security review team | 15:26 |
| toabctl | me too | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | tbarron, toabctl: thanks | 15:26 |
| bswartz | and fungi: thanks for making us aware of the scope of the requirements | 15:27 |
| tbarron | if we do, then I would expect that we'd step up | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I had applied for the tag only half understanding what it implied | 15:27 |
| fungi | bswartz: no problem, fwiw i think manila is pretty close to meeting most of them. we also are starting to go back over the previously grandfathered in projects and stenforce the same requirements | 15:27 |
| fungi | s/stenforce/enforce/ | 15:28 |
| bswartz | tbarron toabctl: I suggest you reply to that ML thread if/when you find out what the business requirements are from your respective distros | 15:28 |
| fungi | but the vmt also is working on additional solutions to make more self-service options available for projects to do a lot of things themselves without having to directly involve us | 15:28 |
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| fungi | (for example, turning the embargoed downstream stakeholders notice process into a private mailman listserv on lists.o.o) | 15:29 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:29 | |
| bswartz | thanks fungi | 15:29 |
| bswartz | so that wraps up our agenda for today | 15:30 |
| bswartz | anything else we need to discuss? | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | okay thanks everyone | 15:31 |
| bswartz | ping me in the channel about any gate issues you see, but I'll be watching the last few patches closely | 15:31 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 15:31:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-09-01-15.00.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-09-01-15.00.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-09-01-15.00.log.html | 15:31 |
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| xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 16:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
| xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
| xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:00 |
| xarses | Who's here? | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:00 |
| maximov | hi | 16:00 |
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| vkramskikh | hi | 16:00 |
| romcheg | \o | 16:00 |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:00 |
| mzawadzki | hi | 16:00 |
| kozhukalov | hi | 16:01 |
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| xarses | #topic action items from last week | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action items from last week (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| xarses | romcheg update ML with regards to the removal of fuel and the promotion of fuel2 | 16:02 |
| romcheg | That was done | 16:02 |
| romcheg | should I post a link? | 16:02 |
| xarses | thats fine, thanks! | 16:02 |
| romcheg | kk | 16:02 |
| maximov | romcheg: we did only for newton, we didn't back port it to mitaka? | 16:02 |
| romcheg | No, at some point we got blocked by fuel-devops | 16:03 |
| maximov | ok, thanks | 16:03 |
| romcheg | perhaps we will be able to resolve the issue by 9.2 | 16:03 |
| romcheg | I should mention that we only didn't manage to deprecate the old CLI in 9.1. The rest of the plan was done | 16:04 |
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| xarses | ok | 16:05 |
| xarses | #topic 9.1 Bugs Scope http://bit.ly/fuel-9-1-sustaining-bugs http://bit.ly/fuel-9-1-networking-bugs (dpyzhov) | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "9.1 Bugs Scope http://bit.ly/fuel-9-1-sustaining-bugs http://bit.ly/fuel-9-1-networking-bugs (dpyzhov) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:05 | |
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| dpyzhov | so, we have about 2 weeks before release of 9.1 update | 16:05 |
| dpyzhov | and we have some untaken bugs. I think it is a good time to start moving some of them to 9.2 | 16:05 |
| dpyzhov | or maybe even don't backport to Mitaka at all | 16:06 |
| dpyzhov | first of all, we have bugs with networking and we have very limited manpower in this area | 16:06 |
| xarses | shouldn't we just move all of the medium as defacto? | 16:06 |
| dpyzhov | #link http://bit.ly/fuel-9-1-networking-bugs | 16:06 |
| dpyzhov | xarses: agree, all medium priority bugs should go to 9.2 | 16:07 |
| maximov | xarses: we should review carefully even medium bugs to ensure that priority set correcty before moving them | 16:07 |
| dpyzhov | at networking we have 11 high priority bugs | 16:07 |
| dpyzhov | maximov: all bugs will be moved manually | 16:08 |
| dpyzhov | I think we should focus on field reports in networking and move all other bugs to 9.2 | 16:08 |
| dpyzhov | there are 3 bugs with customer-found tag | 16:09 |
| maximov | so you propose to move 7 net bugs which don't have customer-found tag ? | 16:09 |
| dpyzhov | maximov: yes | 16:09 |
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| dpyzhov | are we on same page here? | 16:11 |
| xarses | I think so | 16:12 |
| maximov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1594287 this seems to important | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1594287 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Network verification failed after reboot of cluster with bonded interfaces" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to l23network (l23network) | 16:12 |
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| maximov | we shouldnt move bugs which fails our swarm tests | 16:12 |
| dpyzhov | maximov: looks like the issue is not related to networking | 16:13 |
| xarses | We should focus on bugs that prevent deployment, and then in common cases beyond that we don't have time to fix everything | 16:13 |
| dpyzhov | ok, I'll move https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1594287 to other teams for deeper investigation | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1594287 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Network verification failed after reboot of cluster with bonded interfaces" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to l23network (l23network) | 16:14 |
| maximov | dpyzhov: ok | 16:15 |
| dpyzhov | are we ok with other bugs? | 16:15 |
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| xarses | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1618891 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618891 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "haproxy issue: backends are in DOWN state after node restarts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Sustaining (fuel-sustaining-team) | 16:16 |
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| dpyzhov | xarses: this is from fuel-sustaining list | 16:16 |
| dpyzhov | it is next list | 16:17 |
| dpyzhov | #link http://bit.ly/fuel-9-1-sustaining-bugs | 16:17 |
| xarses | ok | 16:17 |
| dpyzhov | here we have 1 critical and 16 high priority bugs | 16:17 |
| dpyzhov | and as I said we have 2 weeks | 16:18 |
| dpyzhov | I propose to keep them all in the list until next week | 16:18 |
| maximov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1587310 - ok to move looks like hw issue | 16:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587310 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "[X(L)710] MTU for private network on DPDK-enabled interface is configured incorrectly" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to l23network (l23network) | 16:19 |
| dpyzhov | I don't see any high priority bug that definitely should be removed from the release | 16:19 |
| maximov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1597775 also hw issue, ok to move | 16:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597775 in Fuel for OpenStack newton "[nailgun-agent] VNICs ignored due to SR-IOV filtering" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to l23network (l23network) | 16:20 |
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| xarses | These seem more important, but I don't see any others to move https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1608700 https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1613367 https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1613724 https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/mitaka/+bug/1618891 | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608700 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Provision failed due to astute/cobbler timeouts." [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Sustaining (fuel-sustaining-team) | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1613367 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "'Success Deployment is done' and 'deployment was unsuccessful' at the same time " [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Sustaining (fuel-sustaining-team) | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1613724 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "Can't create instance in nova az after shutdown primary controller after scale environment." [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Sustaining (fuel-sustaining-team) | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618891 in Fuel for OpenStack mitaka "haproxy issue: backends are in DOWN state after node restarts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Sustaining (fuel-sustaining-team) | 16:21 |
| xarses | ok, moving? | 16:22 |
| maximov | yes | 16:22 |
| dpyzhov | thanks for feedback | 16:22 |
| xarses | #topic Newton FF (kozhukalov) | 16:23 |
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| kozhukalov | Just an announcement | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | Today is FF for Newton | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | will write ML in openstack-dev | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | but i'd like to know if there are any FFe requests | 16:24 |
| xarses | I will probably ask for one for tags | 16:24 |
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| xarses | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341678/ | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | and ISOless bvt and deployment test jobs also is not finished yet | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | so, let's discuss this in ML | 16:25 |
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| xarses | ok | 16:25 |
| xarses | #topic CCP update - status & nearest plans (mzawadzki) | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CCP update - status & nearest plans (mzawadzki) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:26 | |
| mzawadzki | Here's the update from CCP team: | 16:26 |
| mzawadzki | New features merged: | 16:26 |
| mzawadzki | * Enable mcp build tool to use git repositories or local folder for components code | 16:26 |
| mzawadzki | * Heat support | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Dependencies between services | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Per-service deployment | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Logging and monitoring improved | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | Nearest plans: | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Stabilize, fix urgent bugs | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Start moving docs to upstream | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Basic support for updates | 16:27 |
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| mzawadzki | * DSL versioning | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | * Improve CI tests for Docker images built before they get published | 16:27 |
| mzawadzki | That's it, guys, Questions? | 16:27 |
| xarses | When might you produce an install procedure // release bundle for fuel so that we can stand up an env? | 16:29 |
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| mzawadzki | The preliminary plan is to publish install docs in next 3 weeks. | 16:30 |
| kozhukalov | but not release bundle for fuel or smth. like this, right? | 16:30 |
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| kozhukalov | i doubt it is duable in 3 weeks | 16:30 |
| mzawadzki | No, I don't think so. Installation is based on tools from git repositories and on Docker images pulled from registry (some can be optionally built locally). | 16:31 |
| kozhukalov | right, there is no plan to provide any integration with fuel before the end of ocata cycle | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | ci/cd like ux only | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | or script | 16:33 |
| xarses | anything else? | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | ok, thanks guys | 16:34 |
| xarses | #topic open discuss | 16:34 |
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| xarses | if there is nothing else, I will close the meeting shortly | 16:34 |
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| xarses | thanks everyone | 16:36 |
| xarses | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 16:36:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-09-01-16.00.html | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-09-01-16.00.txt | 16:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2016/fuel.2016-09-01-16.00.log.html | 16:36 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| elmiko | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 17:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| elmiko | ha | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #chair elmiko | 17:00 |
| jasonhullinger | hola | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | boom, beat you elmiko | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: elmiko tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| openstack | elmiko: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 17:00 |
| elmiko | no no, you take it tmcpeak =) | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | wassup jasonhullinger :) | 17:00 |
| lhinds | heyup | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | #chair lhinds | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: elmiko lhinds tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| singlethink | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: ^ | 17:00 |
| unrahul | o/ | 17:00 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: i was mainly just making sure there was someone here =) | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | nope, too late. You're a chair now elmiko | 17:00 |
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| * elmiko sighs | 17:01 | |
| elmiko | ;) | 17:01 |
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| browne | o/ | 17:01 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: i just copied an old agenda, hope it's somewhat accurate | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | yep, looks good | 17:01 |
| lhinds | lgtm | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | althought we don't do anchor anymore | 17:02 |
| elmiko | ah, gotcha | 17:02 |
| elmiko | why not? | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | it's mature! | 17:02 |
| elmiko | sweet =) | 17:02 |
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| browne | anchor does have a bunch of patches in limbo waiting for +2 | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | ahh, well crap | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | I put it back in topical :P | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | allright, let's get started | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | let's do topical stuff first | 17:03 |
| sdake | o/ :) | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit Jenkins Plugin | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bandit Jenkins Plugin (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:03 | |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: take it away | 17:04 |
| jasonhullinger | Cool thanks | 17:04 |
| jasonhullinger | So I've been working on integrating Bandit into the Jenkins build process. | 17:04 |
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| jasonhullinger | So in a Jenkins build process, you can git clone, do other things, then run Bandit on the new source code. | 17:04 |
| jasonhullinger | Here is an example of the output from a forked version of Barbican: http://173.247.105.93:8080/job/barbican-forked/ | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | #link http://173.247.105.93:8080/job/barbican-forked/ | 17:05 |
| redrobot | No vulns \o/ | 17:05 |
| lhinds | nice graph | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | this looks really cool, I think OpenStack largely uses Jenkins Job Builder, right? | 17:05 |
| jasonhullinger | It uses git data to see what has changed, points you to the source file and line of code, etc. Basically a bunch of great free stuff that Jenkins gives you that can be added to the build from Bandit. | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | redrobot: lol | 17:06 |
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| jasonhullinger | So anyway, I'll be in Barcelona. In a breakout session I'd like to demo it, if that would be okay? | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: would be really cool to get these results aggregated and pushed somewhere for large stacks of OpenStack projects | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: definitely | 17:06 |
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| lhinds | jasonhullinger: I would be intersted in that | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-security-sessions | 17:07 |
| jasonhullinger | Yeah, I'd like to format it better and such, but I think it would really help teams see security results if it were ran in the build process | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | I'm going to create a new etherpad to start tracking our security stuff in Barcelona | 17:07 |
| jasonhullinger | Instead of them manually running it | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: can you please add something about it there? | 17:07 |
| unrahul | jasonhullinger: it looks cool! | 17:07 |
| jasonhullinger | Sure | 17:08 |
| jasonhullinger | Thanks! | 17:08 |
| sdake | jasonhullinger ++ | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | it would be REALLY cool to get a bunch of those graphs and stats pushed somewhere central to get a 10K view of OpenStack project open issues | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | really good work jasonhullinger | 17:08 |
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| jasonhullinger | Yeah, that would be really great to aggregate the info as well. | 17:09 |
| jasonhullinger | thanks | 17:09 |
| sdake | tmcpeak - I think that would be a new one for openstack-infra, although they do have elasticsearch in the infra iirc | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: ahh cool | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, think Infra is using JJB a lot. Would be cool to get some boiler plate template stuff in there to make it easy for projects to set this up | 17:10 |
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| sdake | tmcpeak ya a per-project publish job would probaby be pretty easy | 17:10 |
| sdake | but not certain | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: this looks really cool, definitely looking forward to seeing this applied to other projects and what kind of cool stuff we can drag out of it :) | 17:11 |
| browne | ++ | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | really like the links part too | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | so I can just click on the issue and get the code snippet | 17:11 |
| jasonhullinger | Yeah thank, I think it will be helpful for developers too to see immedate results for every build | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | we wanted to get this with our HTML reports but never quite got there :P | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | another thing that would be cool is a docker container that deploys your project and small jenkins and does magics behind the scenes to make all this work | 17:12 |
| jasonhullinger | Yeah, Jenkins gives you a bunch of cool free stuff. You just have to work your way around the annoying Java frameworks | 17:12 |
| sdake | tmcpeak I htink a model that could be used is much like the coverage jobs | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: I'm glad you've done that so we don't have to… Java (shudder) | 17:13 |
| jasonhullinger | (shudder indeed) | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | cool, thanks man | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | looking forward to the session | 17:13 |
| jasonhullinger | Yup, thanks! | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | please throw something up on the page about what you've got planned | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Anchor | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Anchor (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:13 | |
| tmcpeak | browne: open reviews you say? | 17:13 |
| browne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+p:openstack/anchor | 17:14 |
| browne | lots of +2, but no +W | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | who are the +A's for Anchor these days? | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, yikes | 17:15 |
| browne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/498,members | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | lots of stuff needs to land | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | well, dg can't make meeting today, he's got a call and sends his regards and all that | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | same with hyakuhei, so let's revisit this next week | 17:16 |
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| browne | ok cool. | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | good point though browne | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Threat Analysis for Kolla | 17:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Threat Analysis for Kolla (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:16 | |
| tmcpeak | sdake: what's our status? | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | we've worked out something that seems useful with Barbican at our last midcycle | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | would be cool to take you guys through it too | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | have you seen our Barbican TA? | 17:16 |
| sdake | tmcpeak status iss swe hae been on fire in olla | 17:16 |
| sdake | fires are putout | 17:16 |
| sdake | i have not | 17:16 |
| sdake | if you gie me link it would bee fantastically helpful :) | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | actually we're not calling it TA anymore :P | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | security review | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-threat-analysis | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | don't worry about that | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | we'd like to get a basic DFD for you guys like this: http://i.imgur.com/P0RSo5R.png | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | from there we enumerate data assets and then discuss the impact of a breach of CIA for each of those assets | 17:18 |
| sdake | tmcpeak the short of it is - now i hae a few weeks to sortou thte documentation | 17:18 |
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| tmcpeak | which documentation? | 17:18 |
| sdake | tmcpeak the security review docs? | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | I'm happy to jump on a call with you and a couple from your team to push through this | 17:18 |
| sdake | (for kolla) | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | shouldn't take long | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | can probably smash the whole thing out in 2-3 hours | 17:18 |
| sdake | tmcpeak cool - let me set something up with our coresec team | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | ok awesome | 17:19 |
| sdake | tmcpeak i'll contact you offline to schedule a time | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good, thank you | 17:19 |
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| sdake | thanky ou :) | 17:19 |
| sdake | tmcpeak note I may need to rebuild the coresec team | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | why, what happened? | 17:19 |
| sdake | mirantis left kolla project | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | ahh, interesting | 17:19 |
| sdake | so weneed more recruits in our coresec project | 17:19 |
| sdake | coresec team i mean | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | we've been struggling a bit with active members in OSSP too | 17:20 |
| sdake | kolla has too much input ;) | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:20 |
| sdake | 800 commits this cycle so far | 17:20 |
| sdake | anyway - i think thats it :) | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | ok sounds good, thanks sdake | 17:20 |
| sdake | oh real quick | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Syntribos | 17:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Syntribos (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:20 | |
| tmcpeak | what's up? | 17:21 |
| sdake | we have got our bandit gat operational | 17:21 |
| sdake | and i am making it voting today | 17:21 |
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| sdake | thats it :) thankss | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: sweeeeet! | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | thanks man :) | 17:21 |
| unrahul | hey tmcpeak , so ccniel is out, I am filling in for syntribos | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | unrahul: | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | was just about to call you :) | 17:21 |
| unrahul | As discussed last week, we are testing all core projects this week (till October) | 17:22 |
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| unrahul | this week its keystone | 17:22 |
| unrahul | and the basic results are a bunch of 500 errors as expected, nothing major.. | 17:22 |
| unrahul | we also got some initial thoughts on modifying syntribos..,major thing being the time it takes to run syntribos across all the api is too long.. | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | a bunch of 500 errors are expected? | 17:23 |
| unrahul | from syntribos tmcpeak , the tests we have now.. are not that complex to get other things..i guess | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | 500's are still bugs though, surprised you got a ton of them | 17:24 |
| unrahul | we were expecting that syntribos will capture 500 errors from the projects at the minimum, in that way. | 17:24 |
| unrahul | yeah.. in most of the endpoints.. we got 500 errors when the body was big and also for a specific string.. | 17:24 |
| unrahul | :D | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | nice | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | those are at least hardening opportunities | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | what do you mean by "long" | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | like hours, days? | 17:25 |
| unrahul | no.. like 3.5 hrs or so | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | you have any progress indicators? | 17:25 |
| unrahul | so I dont think any team would be okay keeping syntribos as part of their ci pipeline. | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, good point | 17:25 |
| unrahul | me myt look into celery tmcpeak :P | 17:25 |
| unrahul | we* | 17:26 |
| unrahul | to speed things up and also to implement some sort of pause funcionality | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | good, everytime somebody uses celery gmurphy smiles awkwardly | 17:26 |
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| unrahul | well indicators..? like making the tests better?? | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | no, like "6/80 tests complete" | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | cute little ascii art progress bar, that kind of stuff | 17:27 |
| unrahul | we have some pointers.. so would be modifying our tests a lil bit and see if we are able to capture a bit better.. | 17:27 |
| unrahul | oh yeah.. | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | 5/20 endpoints | 17:27 |
| unrahul | we have that now | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | estimated time remaining... | 17:27 |
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| unrahul | it will show how many failures/tests etc run.. | 17:27 |
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| unrahul | no estimated remaining time though.. will need to see and include that, good point tmcpeak | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | unrahul: good point on the CI pipeline though | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | maybe you can have a dialed back version that runs in CI and a periodic longer running version | 17:28 |
| sdake | tmcpeak best practice in openstack-infra is 1 hour gate jobs | 17:28 |
| unrahul | ryt now the progress is estimated /templates(each req) | 17:28 |
| sdake | tmcpeak infra willing to go to 90 minutes with negotation :) | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: yeah, I know they get upset if they take longer | 17:28 |
| sdake | tmcpeak option hee is a periodic job | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | can use a specifically configured syntribos instance to check most important stuff in CI | 17:29 |
| unrahul | tmcpeak: yeah.. we need to do something like that, may be run only the post requests or something like that.. | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | sdake: yep yep | 17:29 |
| unrahul | tmcpeak: yup.. | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | cool, thanks unrahul. Anything else for Syntribos today? | 17:29 |
| unrahul | nop thats it for now tmcpeak ! | 17:30 |
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| unrahul | will keep u guys posted if we find some cool vulnerabilities. | 17:30 |
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| tmcpeak | awesome, thank you! | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | #topic OSSN | 17:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSN (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:31 | |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: you're up! | 17:31 |
| lhinds | k.. | 17:31 |
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| lhinds | OSSN 0070 Published (XSS in Bandit) | 17:31 |
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| lhinds | OSSN 0068 is close to being published, needs some +1 from neutron core | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:32 |
| lhinds | had a good meeting with nkinder to pick his brains on how he had been looking after things | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | our usual problem, we don't know neutron cores :P | 17:32 |
| lhinds | I know a couple of guys at RH, but everyone seems PTO atm. | 17:32 |
| lhinds | I will keep pushing there though for someone | 17:33 |
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| lhinds | Dustin is happy though, which is good, as he knows the topic well having been the original reporter | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | I sent an embargoed note a couple of days ago that will be released to public Sept 13th | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | signed up a new one today | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | seems like embargoed notes are becoming more of a thing so we really need 4 active sec cores | 17:34 |
| lhinds | I saw that, I need to email you about how we reach downstream stakeholders. | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | we currently have three since elmiko hasn't been able to participate as much | 17:34 |
| jasonhullinger | OSSN 0070 is interesting. I was just wondering myself who was responisble for sanitizing that. If I HTML encode the 'message', and Bandit does, then it woudl be double encoded. Maybe this should be to the Bandit team, but will Bandit be responsible for proeprly encoding HTML output? | 17:34 |
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| tmcpeak | jasonhullinger: yeah, it should be | 17:35 |
| jasonhullinger | Okay, thanks, good to know | 17:35 |
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| elmiko | sorry =( | 17:35 |
| lhinds | tmcpeak: I will query you in private about some of the embargo ones we have right now | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: it's all good brotha, you've done a lot of good work for a while | 17:36 |
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| tmcpeak | day jobs are pesky :P | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: sounds good | 17:36 |
| elmiko | totally | 17:36 |
| lhinds | talking of embargo, do we want to discuss reviews using google docs? | 17:36 |
| lhinds | or should we wait for rob? | 17:36 |
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| tmcpeak | lhinds: we don't have to discuss it here | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | it's just the three of us now and we're all in agreement | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | thumbs up for Google Docs from now on | 17:37 |
| lhinds | sure, I will eek out a process and send it to you | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good, thanks man | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Docs | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:38 | |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: did you find any replacements? | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | we should probably take this out as a standing item | 17:38 |
| elmiko | sadly, no | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | ok no worries | 17:39 |
| elmiko | but, i have had zero time for docs | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Blog | 17:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blog (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:39 | |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: again | 17:39 |
| lhinds | oh that was quick | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | :P | 17:39 |
| lhinds | so I have that blog PR up, I was going to wait for OSSN-0068 to be up | 17:40 |
| lhinds | but I could just change the link to another | 17:40 |
| lhinds | I think I fixed the comments you had tmcpeak, so its near ready to go | 17:40 |
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| lhinds | is there a review procedure for blog posts (two or more people?) | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | not really | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | let me ping dg about it | 17:42 |
| lhinds | k | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | I don't think we have much for TA this week since dg and hyakuhei aren't here | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | #topic AOB | 17:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:43 | |
| tmcpeak | open floor... | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | lol | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | thanks elmiko | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:45 |
| elmiko | =) | 17:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 17:45:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-09-01-17.00.html | 17:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-09-01-17.00.txt | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | have a good week | 17:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-09-01-17.00.log.html | 17:45 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak | 17:45 |
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| jasonhullinger | Thanks! | 17:45 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 18:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| vgridnev | o/ | 18:00 |
| elmiko | hi | 18:00 |
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| egafford | o/ | 18:00 |
| raissa | hi | 18:00 |
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| vgridnev | let's wait a little | 18:01 |
| egafford | tosky's out at the moment. | 18:01 |
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| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 18:03 |
| vgridnev | #topic News / Updates | 18:03 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | got some progress on boot_from_volume feature | 18:04 |
| egafford | Not a ton; I've picked up a ton of internal work again I fear, as is my way. :/ Thanks for pinging me for reviews when things need to move though, vgridnev, it's very appreciated and I very much want to help. | 18:05 |
| NikitaKonovalov | both volume and instance create successfully, but attachment fails | 18:05 |
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| tellesnobrega | o/ | 18:05 |
| vgridnev | I was preparing N3, making releases, and also did some internal stuff also. | 18:06 |
| tellesnobrega | I didn't do much upstream this last week, most internal work. I believe all my patches for N are in, so just keep reviewing for now I guess | 18:06 |
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| vgridnev | so, how about bugs / docs weeks? Any help at this area is much appreciated. | 18:09 |
| tellesnobrega | when is the deadline for bug fixes? | 18:10 |
| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 18:10 |
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| egafford | tellesnobrega: RC1 target week is Sept. 12-16, and the release is Oct. 3-7. | 18:11 |
| vgridnev | first, just remainder: let's collect topics for discussions at the summit | 18:11 |
| vgridnev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ocata-summit | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | egafford, ideally we want bugs fixed at RC1? | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | there are only 1 topic right now, I think that I replace topics from last summit to this etherpad also | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | I will replace * | 18:12 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Do we have a number of working sessions yet? | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | Nope | 18:12 |
| egafford | Okey doke. | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | I've submitted request about our needs, so now we should just wait | 18:13 |
| NikitaKonovalov | egafford: I guess not much since the summint is going to be Tue-Fri | 18:13 |
| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Austin was 4 days too, wasn't it? | 18:13 |
| vgridnev | NikitaKonovalov, I hope will have 6wr + half day at least | 18:13 |
| NikitaKonovalov | would be nice if so | 18:13 |
| egafford | That'd be plenty. | 18:14 |
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| vgridnev | I think that we should work much better on improving EDP + LCM for clusters in Ocata | 18:16 |
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| * egafford doesn't actually know the acronym LCM, and google is telling me stupid things. | 18:17 | |
| NikitaKonovalov | yep, I've been on multiple customers meeting recently and almost all of them are asking about cluster management after provisioining | 18:17 |
| vgridnev | life cycle management | 18:17 |
| NikitaKonovalov | LCM for Life Cycle Management | 18:17 |
| egafford | Ah, that's completely sensible, thanks. | 18:17 |
| NikitaKonovalov | a separate point in is "Upgrades" | 18:18 |
| NikitaKonovalov | everyone wants them | 18:18 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | and noone does them properly | 18:18 |
| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Yeah, I think we could easily have a whole session on Sahara-side rolling upgrades and a whole separate session on cluster upgrades. | 18:18 |
| NikitaKonovalov | egafford: agree | 18:18 |
| tellesnobrega | That makes total sense | 18:19 |
| egafford | Is there much to talk about in Horizon, in API, or in EDP? | 18:19 |
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| egafford | API v2 is still hopeful but I feel like we know what we're doing but just don't have effort to put in, so I feel like a full session on that might be less useful. | 18:20 |
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| elmiko | depending on time, i can try to video phone in for the api v2 discussion | 18:22 |
| elmiko | at the least, i can answer any outstanding questions | 18:22 |
| egafford | Our GUI is actually really, really good already for an OpenStack UI. | 18:22 |
| * egafford has summoned elmiko by invoking the mystical phrase "v2 API" | 18:23 | |
| elmiko | hehe =) | 18:23 |
| elmiko | i really do want to see api v2 happen, it just seems like external forces have conspired against me lol | 18:23 |
| egafford | If you say it 3 times he appears before you and makes you grow a huge awesome beard. | 18:24 |
| elmiko | LOL | 18:24 |
| egafford | Yeah, that seems valid. | 18:24 |
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| elmiko | so, like, i can help get whoever is interested up to speed, and i am willing to do reviews on any of those patches | 18:24 |
| vgridnev | egafford, agreed, I'm not sure we have enough resources to work on improving UI, so we just add new features to that (like Boot from Volume, Upgrade) | 18:25 |
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| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah, I think UI in and of itself is solid and will flow from the featureset, so maybe we don't need a full session there (and can talk upgrades instead or something.) | 18:26 |
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| egafford | I know our product folks have been starting to talk about rolling upgrades as a big desire in the field, and it's not nearly as hard to do in Sahara as it is elsewhere (since we're all active/active everywhere.) | 18:27 |
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| egafford | Do we want to start assigning folks to sessions now, or wait on that? | 18:30 |
| vgridnev | egafford, so let's wait until we will have number of sessions | 18:30 |
| * egafford suspects we should get to planning bug days and doc days during this meeting; summit can wait a bit. Yeah, totally agreed. | 18:30 | |
| vgridnev | ok | 18:30 |
| vgridnev | for doc days there is an ether pad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-doc-days | 18:31 |
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| vgridnev | each of us can take doc and start improving that + writing new docs | 18:32 |
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| vgridnev | I think that most of docs are ok, I also was thinking about some additional screen casts on how everything works | 18:33 |
| egafford | Cool. We can just note assignee and status on the pad. For statuses - {assigned, in progress, blocked (with description), under review, done}? | 18:34 |
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| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah, we're not in terrible shape. Screenshots sound great, though they're always a little subject to change. | 18:35 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I love that idea. One of the hardest thing to know is what goes where, screencasts are very handy for that | 18:35 |
| egafford | Still, I think the UI should be more stable now. | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | screenshots and casts | 18:35 |
| egafford | (The consolidation of clusters and jobs panels was really good, and makes things really pretty intuitive.) | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | Sure, but I still believe that some helpful graphic guides are very useful | 18:36 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Do you want to run point on the bug days and I'll run point on the docs days? (Or would you like someone else to step up for bug days, since you're a busy man? :) ) | 18:36 |
| vgridnev | for bugs: the current status of RC1 is following: https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/newton-rc1 | 18:36 |
| egafford | Nice! | 18:37 |
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| vgridnev | egafford, since you are native speaker, I think that it's much better if you will be handling doc days | 18:38 |
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| vgridnev | about bugs, additionally there few bugs that currently out of milestones | 18:38 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah, that was my thought. | 18:39 |
| egafford | re: bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bugs?orderby=-importance&start=0 I'm seeing a few bugs without milestones that are critical or high prio. | 18:39 |
| egafford | We may want to target these so we can use the handy newton-rc1 link to keep things really nice and uncluttered during bug days. | 18:39 |
| egafford | https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1532826 in particular is listed as critical. | 18:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1532826 in Sahara "sahara-all leaks memory" [Critical,Triaged] | 18:40 |
| egafford | 6 high prio bugs too. | 18:41 |
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| vgridnev | about this one, it's a quite interesting, and it require a lot research | 18:42 |
| vgridnev | I was talking about sahara-all leaks memory | 18:42 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | it reproduces only under very large scale circumstances | 18:42 |
| NikitaKonovalov | like 200+ vms in a cluster | 18:43 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Yup, it looks it. | 18:43 |
| egafford | NikitaKonovalov: Hm; interesting. | 18:43 |
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| vgridnev | actually, it's seems like sahara leaks not just SSH keys, it leaks objects like clusters data on so on | 18:44 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've tried investigating some time ago. I had a few suspects lie sqlalchemy objects or our own conductor objects leaking. But none of that proved to be true. | 18:44 |
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| egafford | Hm; so that sounds like it is critical, but also not necessarily appropriate to target to RC1. | 18:47 |
| vgridnev | there is also interesting issue like https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1605134 | 18:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605134 in Sahara "[CDH]Fail to update cloudera password" [High,Confirmed] | 18:47 |
| egafford | Any of the High prio bugs look like RC1 candidates? | 18:47 |
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| vgridnev | so, it's quite important when namespaces are used, because we can't just use requests or something like that to open HTTP client | 18:48 |
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| vgridnev | about embedded jars, I think that we should downgrade that to Medium and then fix that in ocata | 18:49 |
| vgridnev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1609870 | 18:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609870 in Sahara "Embedded hadoop-swift connector in mapr plugin code" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:50 |
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| vgridnev | related issue to CDH: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1600666 | 18:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1600666 in Sahara "cdh plugin uses manager_ip to check cloudra-manger service" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:50 |
| egafford | I know tosky's really excited to get that fixed, but I can see the decision. | 18:51 |
| egafford | That CDH bug is kind of nasty really. | 18:52 |
| vgridnev | egafford, so, if he really want to get that fixed, we can consider that to RC1. I'll contact him about that | 18:53 |
| egafford | Yeah, let's keep the embedded .jars at RC1 for now; we can always punt them out to O later. | 18:53 |
| vgridnev | I think that we can close 1600666 as duplicate of 1605134 | 18:54 |
| vgridnev | these bugs are almost around same issue | 18:54 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, yeah, seems like so. Are you sure that if I fix one the other will be fixed? | 18:56 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah, it sounds like one reporter just dug a little deeper to find out *why* it was failing. | 18:56 |
| tellesnobrega | if we are sure on that we can close | 18:56 |
| tellesnobrega | quick time check - we got 2 minutes | 18:57 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, yes, we can use some simple action on manager to verify it's active | 18:57 |
| vgridnev | I don't know, list of clusters, for example | 18:57 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, cool. | 18:58 |
| tellesnobrega | we can think about the fix later :) | 18:58 |
| vgridnev | Ok, seems like we have 1 min, I think that we can continue at openstack-sahara | 18:59 |
| vgridnev | thanks all | 18:59 |
| egafford | o/ | 18:59 |
| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | o/ Happy b-day to vgridnev | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 18:59:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-09-01-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-09-01-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-09-01-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
| egafford | :o | 18:59 |
| elmiko | thanks vgridnev egafford | 18:59 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks all | 18:59 |
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