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moshelestartmeeting sriov13:00
moshele#startmeeting sriov13:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  6 13:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sriov'13:00
moshelehi everyone13:00
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sfinucanhowdy13:02
moshele#topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI13:02
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moshelestatus about CI13:03
moshelethis issue with qemu with Virtqueue size exceeded error when resuming VM13:04
moshelesee https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-August/msg00406.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=137194313:04
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1371943 in qemu-kvm-rhev "RHSA-2016-1756 breaks migration of instances" [High,New] - Assigned to virt-maint13:04
mosheleso it seem the investigation is done to fix it, we saw it in our CI in suspend resume so we downgraded qemu version13:05
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moshelethere is also issue with libvirt and macvtap see https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-September/msg00076.html13:06
moshelewe plan to push the WIP patch to workaround the libvirt issue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364121/13:06
moshelejust wanted to share so of the issues we saw in Mellanox CI13:07
mosheleanyone have anything to  update related to CI or this issues?13:08
sfinucannothing on my end, sadly13:09
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moshelelet move on13:09
moshele#topic Patches for Subteam Review13:09
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moshelehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda Line 3213:10
mosheleI forgot to ping dansmith about  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349060 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347558/13:11
mosheleI will do it after the meeting13:11
moshelethese are the final patches for making pci migration-revert to work, hopefully it will be merged in this cycle13:12
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mosheleany new patches for SR-IOV, that I am not aware of?13:12
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moshelealso the neutron side of BWG was merged with support for SR-IOV13:13
moshelewe plan to add this to our CI (testing rate limit and BWG)13:14
sfinucanI didn't see any recently13:14
moshele#topic Specs for Review13:14
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sfinucanI'm still looking for ideas on 'PCI passthrough device role tagging - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307028/'13:15
sfinucanincluding whether it's a useful idea or no :)13:15
sfinucanAlso, is 'Add spec to enhance PCI passthrough whitelist to support regex' going ahead? I thought there was a lot of pushback?13:16
moshelesfinucan: I need to read the spec - PCI passthrough device role tagging  :)13:16
sfinucanmoshele: Ah, no problem :)13:16
sfinucanyou're input would probably be valuable13:16
sfinucanas to the value proposition of the idea13:17
moshelewhat pushback? I just didn't jet reviews from nova cores13:17
sfinucanoh, maybe I'm mixing it up with something else...13:17
sfinucanyeah, the -2 is only for FF. My mistake13:17
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vladikrsfinucan, there is a new spec for the regex spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350211/113:19
mosheleregarding NUMA we have this     Enable to share PCI devices between numa nodes - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361140/13:19
mosheleI didn't review it yet13:19
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mosheleand I would like to also push this User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/13:19
sfinucanI've reviewed the former of those. I'll review the latter today13:20
moshelesfinucan: so currently I am not addressing NUMA in User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation, but I wonder if I should13:21
sfinucanmoshele: Totally up to you. From my perspective it seems a little too "uncloudy" for my liking13:22
sfinucanbut that's just me. Maybe you'd see benefits from your end13:22
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sfinucanalways good to get contrasting opinions :)13:22
m1devIs there any plan to support using DPDK from inside a Guest OS13:23
m1devon VFs13:23
mosheleI mean for start I just want to address the selecting the correct pci devices to achieve HA  and we can extend it later13:24
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sfinucanm1dev: Probably a question best directed to the dev@dpdk.org mailing list13:24
sfinucanm1dev: nova wouldn't be doing anything like that inside guests13:25
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sfinucanmoshele: Yeah, I get that. Need to think about it a little more, tbh13:25
m1devdpdk supports it but when you have a hostdev device that needs to be configured outside sriov agent since we cannot use iproute to configure vf13:26
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sfinucanm1dev: Ping me after this meeting? Would need to know a little more about your desired configuration13:26
m1devsure13:27
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mosheleanything else regarding specs?13:27
mosheledo you have anything else to talk about?13:27
trevormchi all, I do have a spec I want to put up for review but I am looking for collaboration on it. should I wait for open discussion to talk about this?13:27
moshelewe can talk about it now13:28
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lbeliveauhi, sorry I'm late13:28
sfinucanmoshele: (nothing else on my end this week)13:28
sfinucanhey lbeliveau13:28
moshelehi, lbeliveau:13:29
trevormcHere is a paste for the spec I was talking about13:29
trevormchttp://paste.openstack.org/show/567157/13:29
lbeliveautrevormc: I'll have a closer look ...13:30
trevormclbeliveau: thanks13:30
moshelewhat are  other vf configuration utilities?13:30
mosheleis that vendor tools?13:31
trevormcvf configuration utilities can be seen here https://github.com/att/vfd13:31
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mosheleso you want to make the agent with plugable driver to configure VFs?13:32
mosheleand the default will be iproute13:32
m1devyes13:33
mosheleI see13:33
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m1devthe difference is these vfs are bound to dpdk modules and are in userspace13:33
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mosheledo you have  a POC code of the agent refactoring?13:34
m1devYes we hacked the vip.py to invoke the vfd13:34
m1devvif.py in nova13:35
m1devnot via agent yet13:35
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mosheleI would suggest to POC the code on the agent and you can open RFE in neutron13:36
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m1devok13:36
sfinucan+113:36
moshelealso you know that the agent only know the pci device of the VF and the PF, is that enough to use you utils?13:37
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m1devno we used the binding profile field in neutron port to pass vf configuration for now13:37
m1devso the dpdk allow you to customize lot of params on vf via agent13:38
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mosheleok start POC and we will take a look13:38
mosheleanything else/13:39
lbeliveaualso I suggest submitting an official blueprint for ocata13:39
m1devso these values can be passed in binding profile, i think mellanox already supply a json to their switch13:39
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m1devsure trevor will summit it13:39
mosheleno, Mellanox is using iproute to configure  the VFs13:40
m1devyes i understand but i am talking about the data that will be used13:40
m1devso depending on agent that field will configure the vf13:41
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moshelenot sure I understand. it will be easier with spec/blueprint and some code :)13:41
m1devsure13:42
mosheleanything else13:42
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sfinucannothing on my end13:42
moshele#endmeeting13:42
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lbeliveauI'm good13:42
openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep  6 13:42:37 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:42
moshelebye13:42
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-09-06-13.00.html13:42
lbeliveaubye guys13:42
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-09-06-13.00.txt13:42
sfinucanthanks :)13:42
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-09-06-13.00.log.html13:42
m1devthanks13:42
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shardy#startmeeting tripleo14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  6 14:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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shardy#topic rollcall14:00
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beagleso/14:00
shardyhey all, who's around?14:00
mwhahahahi14:00
EmilienMhello14:00
apetricho/14:00
dtantsuro/14:00
shadowerhey14:00
pabelangerpresent14:00
marioshi \o14:00
weshayo/14:00
myoungo/14:00
matbuo/14:01
dprincehi14:01
jpicho/14:01
shardyHi, Ok then, lets get started14:01
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shardy#topic agenda14:01
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shardy#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO14:01
shardy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:02
sshnaidmo/14:02
shardyIf anyone has any one-off items, please add them to the etherpad :)14:02
shardyI have one re RC1 but we can cover that in the release topic14:02
shardy* one off agenda items14:02
shardy* bugs14:02
shardy* Projects releases or stable backports14:02
shardy* CI14:02
shardy* Specs14:02
shardy* open discussion14:02
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trowno/14:03
adarazso/14:03
shardyAny other one-off items, or should we jump right to the recurring topics?14:03
shardyOk then, I don't see anything so let's jump to bugs14:04
shardy#topic bugs14:04
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thrasho/14:04
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shardySo, one request for help here - I know Emilien has done a bunch of bug triage, and I'm struggling to find time to do it regularly14:04
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shardycan folks please self-triage their own bugs, and help clear the backlog of stuff that's in any state other than Fix Released14:05
EmilienMi'll continue today14:05
shardyThis is related to the release as we need to capture all the release blockers14:05
shardyAny other bugs folks want to highlight or discuss now?14:06
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shardymcornea has been reporting a few related to composable services/roles, so I created an offial tag for them:14:06
EmilienMI use this URL to find bugs goo.gl/kSo5nLcontent_copyCopy short URL14:06
EmilienMhttp://goo.gl/kSo5nL sorry14:06
shardy#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?field.tag=composable-roles14:07
shardyAny help with those would be great14:07
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shardyI think we still have a few hard-coded assumptions around stuff getting deployed on the controller14:07
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shardythere also seems to be some complexity around how we handle e.g creatinG DB users when a service is deployed on some node other than the one running the DB14:08
shardysimilar problem to the endpoint creation via puppet I think14:08
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shardyideas re fixes welcome14:08
shardyAnything else re bugs before we go on to discuss the release?14:09
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shardy#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:10
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dprinceshardy: yep, Agree we need to iterate on the interfaces around the endpoints, DB, etc.14:10
shardySo, we released newton-3, with a bunch of nice features and fixes:14:10
shardyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-314:10
shardywoohoo!14:10
shardythanks for all the hard work everyone :)14:10
EmilienMnice14:10
shardyNow, we have a backlog of remaining stuff for RC1 to deal with:14:10
shardyhttps://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-rc114:11
d0ugal\o/14:11
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shardyThere are 12 FFEs which is a lot more than I hoped for, but many of them just need reviews and passing CI14:11
EmilienM12 blueprints and 50 bugs targeted :-O14:11
shardyhelp landing those and setting them to Implemented would be great14:11
shardyEmilienM: I need to scrub the bug list, I think quite a few will get deferred to ocata14:12
shardyagain, assistance appreciated if you see something there you are assigned to or reported - bump it to ocata if it's not a release blocker14:12
dtantsurshardy, ironic is done code-wise, only needs docs to be reviewed and landed14:12
shardydtantsur: ack, thanks for the update14:13
dtantsur* unless we find any last-minute bugs of course14:13
shardyd0ugal: can you provide a status update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/mistral-deployment-library ?14:13
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shardyI get the feeling we're pretty close there, but it might be good to mail the list with a clear list of remaining patches we need to enable closing that one14:14
d0ugalshardy: Sure, I'll prepare an email.14:14
d0ugalshardy: I need to check on a few things to see where they are all at :)14:14
shardyor is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-mistral-api the definitive list?14:14
shardyd0ugal: Ok, thanks - I think a ML update would be useful14:14
d0ugalshardy: It is, but I am not sure it is up to date, rbrady was looking after the etherpad.14:14
d0ugalSure, will do.14:15
shardyI've been working with mhenkel re the contrail one, it's a new service integration disabled by default, so hopefully we can land that one, there's patches posted14:15
shardyI think jaosorior said we should defer https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tls-via-certmonger to ocata14:16
shardyso I'll do that14:16
shardywhich leaves https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/custom-roles14:16
shardySo, I have a series posted which pretty much completes this, I just need to finish testing it wired in via mistral vs my local tripleoclient hack14:16
shardyand address some refactoring after discussions with dprince14:17
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shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/custom-roles+status:open14:17
shardyhowever, it's some major changes to be making at this point in the cycle14:17
dprinceshardy: but super valuable14:17
shardythe feedback I have got is that users want this feature in Newton, so I've been trying to make it happen14:17
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shardyif folks are OK with that, I'll keep pushing this week and we can try to land it before RC114:18
d0ugal+114:18
dprinceshardy: +114:18
EmilienMshardy: yes14:18
shardyOk, thanks14:18
shardyIn terms of release timing https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html14:18
shardyI propose we cut an RC1 sometime next week to align with the other OpenStack projects14:19
shardyThen cut further RC's as needed aiming to declare the release final close to the main Newton release data14:19
shardydate14:19
EmilienMjust FYI: puppet modules will cut stable/newton branch on October 3 or maybe a bit before14:19
shardywe have the cycle-trailing deadline, but I'd prefer to treat the extra two weeks as contingency, which I think is the spirit of the cycle-trailing model14:20
shardydoes that sound resonable to folks?  Any questions?14:20
dprinceyep, reasonable14:20
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EmilienMshardy: yes14:20
mariosthanks shardy sounds good14:20
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shardyjaosorior: hey I just mentioned you, did we agree to bump https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tls-via-certmonger to ocata?14:21
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shardyobviously you can continue working on it, but it sounds like there's too much work remaining to land this week?14:22
jaosoriorshardy: yeah. I don't think it'll be done by RC114:22
shardyjaosorior: Ok, thanks, I'll bump it to ocata-114:22
jaosoriorsure14:22
shardyAnything else re the release to discuss before we continue?14:22
shardy#topic CI14:23
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shardyderekh, bnemec: you guys want to give us an update of the fun with ovb jobs recently?14:23
derekhshardy: sshnaidm is working on it at the moment14:24
EmilienMpanda: have you investigated why IPv6 new experimental job is failing?14:24
sshnaidmfor now I clean the environment to free some resources14:25
derekhshardy: lots of DB errors creating heat stacks, he's restarted a few things and it now cleaning up old failed resources befor testing things out again14:25
EmilienMwe have a patch for Ipv6 if anyone can review it please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363204/14:25
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derekhshardy: the heat-manage purge command doesn't seem to ave done anything14:25
shardyderekh: Ok - do we have any feeling for how the hardware reconfiguration and image caching has been working out?14:25
shardyit certainly seems to have helped - is there more we can do in terms of the hardware tuning?14:25
sshnaidmshardy, that worked great14:26
shardyderekh: Ok, we should reach out to therve about that, IIRC he's fixed that several times now14:26
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derekhshardy: bnemec has been looking into the HW tuning stuff14:26
bnemecEmilienM: I had issues deploying ha with ipv6 on Friday locally.  I'm thinking there may be a legitimate problem, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it yet.14:26
derekhshardy: I think the image cache has help a good bit14:26
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EmilienMbnemec: ok I rebased the Ci patches, i'll also look14:27
bnemecThe major part of the hardware tuning is done.14:27
shardybnemec: FYI dsneddon was also doing some local IPV6 testing and I believe found some issues14:27
shardynot sure on the latest status of that tho14:27
shardybnemec: ack, well thanks for your efforts there, good to see things improving14:27
bnemecI would still like to get the RAM layout fixed in the rest of the nodes, and there are a few that haven't been switched to performance mode because they were hosting infra vms that couldn't be taken down.14:27
EmilienMshardy: did he send a patch or file launchpads?14:28
shardyEmilienM: I'm not sure, will have to follow up and ask14:28
EmilienMk14:28
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shardyOk, anything else to discuss re CI before we continue?14:29
matbui'm still working on upgrade jobs14:29
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EmilienMmatbu: do you have some progress to share?14:30
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matbuthe UC major upgrade works, i'm fighting a bit with the major OC upgrade14:30
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matbui'll probably hve some review to land this week14:30
shardymatbu: Ok, sounds good - it'd be great if we can get that passing/landed before the final Newton release14:31
weshay+114:31
matbushardy: ack14:31
EmilienMmatbu: do we have the undercloud upgrade job green?14:31
matbuEmilienM: yep14:31
shardy#topic Specs14:31
EmilienMI don't see it on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346995/14:31
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shardySo, just a reminder that we need to start planning features for Ocata14:31
matbuEmilienM: i 'm working on this one : 36485914:32
matbuhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/36485914:32
shardyfolks can raise specs, and we need to start thinking about summit session topics14:32
shardyI just started https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-barcelona-summit-topics14:32
EmilienMok gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades-nv is green14:32
shardyplease dump your ideas there and we can discuss them further in future meetings14:32
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matbuEmilienM: well on the latest CI run, the UC upgrade is the only green :)14:32
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shardywhen we know what our summit session allocation will be14:32
EmilienMmatbu: should I abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346995/ ?14:32
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matbuEmilienM: idk what would be the best, only landing UC upgrade in a first pass14:33
EmilienMmatbu: I would like to keep my patch and merge it when it pass14:33
matbuEmilienM: or landing the full review ^14:33
EmilienMmatbu: so we do baby steps, first undercloud upgrade14:33
matbuEmilienM: ack, so may i update your review to make the UC job green ?14:33
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EmilienMmatbu: please yes, add the diff to make it work14:34
EmilienMmatbu: i'll review it today14:34
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shardy#topic Open Discussion14:34
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matbuEmilienM: k cool14:34
jpichIs https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-tripleo superseded by  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-barcelona-summit-topics ?14:34
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EmilienMshardy: sorry :-) we still had Ci things to discuss14:34
shardyjpich: Haha, no, my mistake14:35
shardyI'll link to that one instead, oops! :)14:35
jpichOk!14:35
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shardyjtomasek: Do you have a status update the the UI this week?14:36
shardyjtomasek: how close are we to asking for wider feedback/testing?14:36
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d0ugalI don't think jtomasek is around :) (I pinged him a while ago)14:38
shardyor jrist or anyone at all really :)14:38
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shardyI've not had time to try it, but it'd be great to get eyes on the UI and kick the tyres before the release14:38
d0ugalflorianf: ^14:38
d0ugalor maybe jpich can answer?14:39
jristI am here14:39
jristI am not sure, as I was out yesterday and Friday, if there is much change14:39
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jristwe will have to take a look this week about a wider UI update14:39
jristif the undercloud install stuff for the UI stuff is in, which I think it is14:40
d0ugaljrist: I am sending an email to the list re: mistral status. Maybe a similar one about the UI would be good.14:40
jristd0ugal: roger14:40
shardyjrist: Ok, I guess my question really is, when we release TripleO RC1 next week, will we have a fully integrated and basically functional UI?14:40
jristshardy: that's a great question. warrants some testing14:40
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shardywe're not tracking the UI things in the main launchpad, so I've not got a clear view on it tbh14:40
jristyeah14:40
shardyOk, well we can discuss next week, but again a ML message with a summary and links to the must-have patches would be hugely helpful14:41
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jristok14:41
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EmilienMshould we use lp/tripleo with ui tag for UI things?14:42
shardyEmilienM: I think we will do that from ocata14:42
EmilienMwhy UI would be an exception?14:42
EmilienMah excellent14:42
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florianfshardy, jrist: I haven't been able to test the package and the UI setup myself yet. There's one patch left that we need to start a deployment though.14:42
d0ugalflorianf: link?14:43
shardyWe need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344140/ to land before folks will really start testing it I think14:43
shardyneed to get a CI pass on that again14:43
florianfd0ugal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357125/14:43
shardyOk, well help landing those two patches would be good :)14:44
shardyAnything else to discuss before we wrap things up?14:44
mariosshardy: review request on the manila netapp please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354019/14:44
mariosshardy: has an ffe, would be nice to land for rc114:44
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mariosshardy: waiting for the test review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362866/ to be green but unrelated undercloud ci issues14:44
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shardymarios: ack, will check those out, agree landing for RC1 would be good14:45
mariosshardy: though that only test the generic tidy up, not netapp backend14:45
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mariosshardy: thanks14:45
shardyOk then, if nothing else needs discussion, we can declare an early endmeeting?14:46
dprinceshardy: thanks14:46
d0ugalThanks!14:46
shardyOk, thanks everyone! :)14:46
EmilienMthanks shardy14:46
shardy#endmeeting14:46
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tmorin#startmeeting bgpvpn15:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  6 15:06:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:06
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tmorinhi everyone15:06
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn'15:06
pcarverhi15:06
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tmorinhi bfernando, doude, eon`, matrohon, michchap, pcarver, timirnich, wdeclercq...15:06
matrohonhi15:07
eon`hello15:07
wdeclercqhi15:07
wdeclercq(i'll be afk in 30 min to go sit in another meeting..)15:07
bfernandohello15:07
tmorinwdeclercq: ok :)15:08
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tmorinlet's see what we have on our agenda15:08
tmorinfeel free to add items15:08
tmorinI have: 1) questions on backport branches15:08
tmorin2) status on things merged in last week15:09
tmorin3) go through launchpad bugs15:09
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tmorinmatrohon: do you see anything else ?15:10
tmorin(or anyone)15:11
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tmorin#topic backport/* branches15:11
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tmorinthe question that we have is: as is, we can't merge anything in our backport/juno and backport/kilo branches, because the stable/juno and stable/kilo branches do not exist anymore in neutron15:12
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tmorinwe could tweak our deps and config, but the general wisdom seems to be to invest *zero* time in maintaining branches so old15:12
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tmorinwould anyone object to a decision to not backport anything more in backport/juno and backport/kilo ?15:13
pcarvertmorin: do we know of anyone using them? I would agree with the general wisdom15:13
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tmorin eon`, timirnich  ?15:14
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eon`no objection15:15
eon`we plan to use bgpvpn with mitaka15:15
tmorineon`: makes sense15:15
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tmorinlet's assume noone objects15:15
tmorinI will abandon the two pending change I had on these branches15:16
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tmorin#topic merged in last week15:16
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tmorinhmm15:17
tmorinnot much to say in fact15:17
eon`sorry just one question for the last topic. The tempest tests will be backported to the mitaka branch ?15:17
tmorinwe mostly cherry-picked various fixes onto stable branches15:17
tmorineon`: the previous question was about our "backport/*" branches --> nothing closed for "stable/*" branches15:18
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eon`ok, sorry :)15:18
tmorineon`: if you want the recent tempest changes to be backported, I think we can try that15:18
bfernandocool :)15:19
tmorineon`: the decision will be made by the neutron stable maintainer team15:19
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eon`I can work on it if needed15:19
tmorinihrachys: can you tell what the policy is with reference to increasing test coverage with a change to a stable/x branch ?15:19
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tmorinihrachys: more tempest tests in our precise case ?15:20
ihrachystmorin: tests are always welcome15:20
ihrachystmorin: as long as we prove they work15:20
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ihrachyswith a gate job15:20
tmorinok, so it means that our recent change to enable tempest in our gate job need to first be backported to stable/*15:22
tmorinihrachys: thanks for the reply15:22
tmorineon`: you've got your roadmap: 1) backport gate changes 2) backport tempest changes15:22
eon`tmorin: ok15:23
tmorinnext topic ?15:23
matrohonhere is the gate change for the master branch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352401/15:23
tmorinmatrohon: the project-config change above applies to all of our branches15:24
matrohontmorin, so what gate change are tolking about?15:24
tmorinthe change that need to be backported to our stable/* branches is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355999/15:24
matrohonha yep15:25
matrohonsorry gong back to sleep :)15:25
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tmorin;)15:26
tmorin#topic pending bugs for next release15:26
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tmorinnothing changed much since last week15:26
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tmorinone minor annoyance in bagpipe ovs extension is likely to go away thanks to a change in neutron API for agent extensions15:27
tmorinthat's bug #160229615:27
openstackbug 1602296 in networking-bgpvpn "Can't load extension bagpipe_bgpvpn" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160229615:27
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tmorinthen we have bug #1537067 which matrohon offered to solve15:28
openstackbug 1537067 in networking-bgpvpn "enforce constraints on "neutron router-interface-add"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1537067 - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon)15:28
tmorincomment matrohon ?15:28
tmorinmatrohon: ^15:28
matrohontmorin, yep, I didn't have time so submit any patch15:28
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tmorindo you see what needs to be done to solve it, or not fully yet ?15:30
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tmorinthen we have a contrail driver improvement suggested by eon`15:31
tmorinthis is #161965115:32
tmorinbug #161965115:32
openstackbug 1619651 in networking-bgpvpn "OC driver: use VN api to associate RTs" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161965115:32
matrohonyep, I have a clear idea, but it needs tests15:32
tmorinthough not specifically targetted for next release AFAIK15:32
tmorinmatrohon: ok, always the part that takes time...15:33
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tmorinanything else on bugs ?15:34
tmorinnext topic ?15:34
tmorin... do we have a next topic ?15:34
tmorin#topic open dicussion15:35
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tmoringo ahead everyone :)15:35
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eon`I'm having a hard time to setup a master devstack with bgpvpn ;) seems to me that master bgpvpn does not work with mitaka15:36
eon`what's your dev setup ?15:36
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tmorinenable_plugin networking-bgpvpn git@github.com:openstack/networking-bgpvpn.git stable/mitaka15:37
tmorinworks fine, as long as you point your enable_plugin to the right branch15:37
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eon`yep I know. I was just trying to setup everything on master15:39
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eon`devstack breaks randomely.. anyway it's devstack15:39
tmorinI don't follow you15:40
tmorinI also have a devstack master branch, pointing to master on all components15:40
tmorinworking fine, most of the time (may break if a particular checkout of a particular project has a bug)15:40
eon`At first I wanted to use bgpvpn master with devstack mitaka because devstack mitaka builds ok15:41
tmorinbut indeed net-bgpvpn master will not work with neutron's and neutron-lib stable/mitaka15:41
eon`yes ok15:41
tmorinI think most of the incompatibilities are due to things we now import from neutron-lib15:41
tmorinbut you are likely to have the general issue of the requirements not being in sync anyway15:42
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eon`have to try again.. and again ;)15:43
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tmorin:)15:45
tmorinok, I guess we're done for today15:45
tmorinthanks everyone!15:45
tmorin#endmeeting15:45
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hongbin#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  6 16:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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hongbin#topic Roll Call16:00
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muraliaMurali Allada16:00
tonanhngoTon Ngo16:00
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jvgrantJaycen Grant16:00
strigaziSpyros Trigazis16:00
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:01
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rpothierRob Pothier16:01
hongbinThanks for joining the meeting muralia tonanhngo jvgrant strigazi adrian_otto dane_leblanc rpothier16:01
hongbin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-09-06_1600_UTC Today's agenda16:01
hongbinAnything needs to be added to the agenda?16:01
hongbin#topic Announcements16:02
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hongbin1. python-magnumclient 2.3.0 release (final release in Newton)16:02
hongbin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-August/001538.html16:02
hongbin2. magnum-ui 2.0.0 release16:02
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hongbin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-August/001539.html16:02
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hongbin3. magnum 3.0.0 release16:02
hongbin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-August/001547.html16:02
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hongbin#1 is the final release16:03
* adrian_otto applause16:03
muralianice16:03
hongbinwe will possibly have another release for magnum-ui and magnum16:03
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tonanhngoWhen is the deadline for these?16:04
hongbinwill discuss the release schedule later in the agenda16:04
tonanhngook16:04
hongbintonanhngo: the deadline is the final release candidate week16:04
strigaziI think 9/1516:04
muraliasep 26-30th16:04
muraliais the final rc week16:04
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hongbin#link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html16:05
hongbinit is sep 26-3016:05
strigazi11-16 is rc1, sorry16:05
strigazi12-16 is rc1, sorry16:05
hongbinthat is all for the annoucement16:05
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hongbinany other annoucement from our team members?16:06
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hongbin#topic Review Action Items16:06
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hongbinnone16:06
hongbin#topic Essential Blueprints Review16:06
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hongbin1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi)16:06
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support16:06
hongbinstrigazi: ^^16:06
strigaziI was testing k8s-ironic with lbaas-v2 because the relevant lbaas patch was breaking the k8s ironic tests16:07
strigaziCouldn't find a solution and I think it's better to proceed without lbaas for that driver16:08
strigazibut16:08
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strigazilbaas v2 wasn't working for vm drivers either. I guess we don't have tests for creating cluster with lbaas16:09
strigaziSo,16:09
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strigaziif lbaas v2 is fixed are you ok to proceed with removing lbaas support from fedora k8s ironic driver?16:10
hongbinfor me, yes16:11
strigazinext, I created a fedora 24 image for baremetal and passed the gate tests16:11
strigaziit is uploaded here16:11
strigazi#link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/magnum/fedora-24-kubernetes-ironic.tar.gz16:12
strigaziI'll push tomorrow a patch to build it on infra16:12
strigaziThe same image could be used for swarm16:13
adrian_ottoif we remove lbaas support, that means that we would not have multi-master COE support anymore16:13
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adrian_ottobecause there would be nothing to route clients to an alternate master in the event of a master failure.16:13
strigaziOnly for the specific driver until it's fixed16:13
tonanhngoThis should be temporary16:13
strigazinot across magnum16:13
hongbinI think strigazi means upgrade from lbaas to lbaas v2, not removing16:13
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adrian_ottook, I suppose I did not understand your proposal strigazi16:14
strigazithat is, *IF* lbaas V2 works16:14
strigazione more thing16:15
tonanhngoyes, but Neutron removes lbaas, so there is not choice unless we get lbass v2 working16:15
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hongbinit is better to get lbaas v2 working in newton16:15
strigazitonanhngo: so16:15
strigaziif we fix lbaas v2 only orinic won't have it16:15
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strigaziif we fix lbaas v2 only ironic won't have it16:15
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strigaziThe final thing I want to discuss is how to handle the bm drivers in terms of commom code with the vm drivers16:16
strigaziThe bm drivers should be as close as possible to the VM drivers16:17
strigazitherefore share all templates/fragments/*16:17
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strigaziwe can put all common file in common/templates/COE_IMAGE/fragments directory16:19
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strigazior just in common/templates/fragments16:19
strigazior16:19
strigazipoint to the files directly to the VM driver16:19
strigaziThe last option16:20
Drago+1 to common/templates/COE_IMAGE/fragments, since otherwise the files would probably have COE_IMAGE prefixed to them16:20
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strigazimakes the ironic driver dependent to the VM driver16:20
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muraliai like putting them in the common folder too16:21
adrian_ottoagreed16:21
strigaziok16:21
tonanhngoJust for clarity, COE_IMAGE means kubernetes, swarm, ... ?16:21
strigazimuralia: do you want me to continue you split or you can abandon it16:22
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strigazitonanhngo: k8s_muralia16:22
strigazitonanhngo: k8s_fedora16:22
muraliajust continue with the same patch. that might be easier for you actually16:22
tonanhngook16:22
strigaziand16:22
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strigaziI have this change for treating common template definitions #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365286/16:23
DragoShould we do common/templates/COE/IMAGE/fragments?16:23
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strigaziDrago: we could16:24
strigaziwhat others think?16:24
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muraliayes, we need to create /coe/image/fragments16:24
strigaziok16:24
jvgranti think COE/IMAGE/fragments is a little better16:24
DragoI guess what I was really thinking, for things that are not image-specific, just put them in common/templates/COE/fragments, not COE_IMAGE or COE/IMAGE16:24
hongbini have a feeling that it is oversplitting16:25
muraliayes, common for all drivers will go under /common/fragements. common for only one type of driver will go under /common/coe/image/fragemtns16:25
jvgrantwould there ever be common pieces that are shared on the COE level?16:25
jvgrantif so then the extra split is nice16:26
strigazicoreos and fedora16:26
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DragoWell there's k8s_fedora and k8s_coreos. I don't know how much is common between the two16:26
hongbini would proposal an alternative16:26
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hongbincommon/templates/COE/fragments/<IMAGE_PREFIX>_XXX16:27
hongbinthen the dirs level is smaller16:27
strigaziI like that too, less directories16:27
muraliayes16:27
DragoWorks for me16:27
tonanhngoWe should document the convention we adopt, so others can follow later.16:27
jvgrant+116:27
strigaziok, I can update the bay-drivers spec16:28
adrian_ottotonanhngo: where should that be documented?16:28
adrian_ottoin the Hacking guide?16:28
tonanhngoThere is the section on bay drivers in the user guide16:28
strigaziIMO, in the spec and in the guide for creating new drivers16:28
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tonanhngostrigazi: +116:29
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strigazibtw, to create a new driver we need two level of directories16:29
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strigazidriver_name/driver_name/driver.py16:30
muraliawhy?16:30
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strigazithe first level would contain the setup.py file to install the driver16:30
strigaziand the second all the files as descuibed in the spec16:30
strigaziand the second all the files as described in the spec16:31
DragoWill the setup.py change from driver to driver?16:31
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strigazithat is only for contrib drivers16:31
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strigazinot ours16:31
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muraliadrago: yes. strigazi: we dont need to do this for the default drivers that come with magnum16:31
muraliainfact the default driver will not have a setup.py16:32
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strigazitrue16:32
muraliawe just add entry points for those in the setup.cfg file directly16:32
strigaziyes, I'm talking about contrib drivers16:32
muraliaah ok16:32
strigaziI'll do an iteration on the docs16:33
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strigaziand we can discuss it there16:33
muraliasure16:33
strigaziI think we can move topic16:33
strigazi26 min left16:33
hongbinok, le't move on16:33
hongbin2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango)16:33
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide16:34
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hongbintonanhngo: ^^16:34
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tonanhngoThe section on scaling containers and cluster is under review. Thanks everyone for the comments16:34
tonanhngoI will add the remaining sections to wrap up the user guide for Newton:  Horizon, clients16:34
tonanhngoWe discussed a section on scalability and tuning.  This work is still going on and we won't have the data until Oct16:35
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tonanhngoSo I will add this section later16:35
tonanhngoThat's all for now16:35
hongbinthanks tonanhngo16:36
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hongbinany comment about the user guide?16:36
hongbin3. COE Bay Drivers (muralia)16:36
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers16:36
hongbinmuralia: ^^16:37
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muralianothing new to discuss on this topic. I'm still working on fixing all broken tests. basically the I'm having to go to every test and add mocks for the driver.16:38
muraliaso this is taking a while.16:38
muraliabut nothing new to add since last week16:38
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muraliathats all for me.16:38
hongbinthanks muralia16:39
hongbin4. Rename bay to cluster (jvgrant)16:39
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/rename-bay-to-cluster16:39
hongbinjvgrant: ^^16:39
jvgrantLots of merges this last week.  Working on last patch(hopefully) to switch db and object for bay.  Testing now should have review out today16:39
strigazijvgrant: how many patches? Was it possible to break it?16:40
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jvgrantstrigazi: I did my best on this one. the db and object changes have so many references so they are very hard to break up16:40
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strigaziI know, maybe it's impossible :(16:41
jvgranttrying to keep them as small as i can since the constant merge conflicts are rough16:41
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tonanhngoIf it's too hard, we can just bite the bullet and get it done in one big patch16:42
jvgrantthere is light at the end of the tunnel though and we should be done soon :)16:42
jvgrantthe last one won't be too big16:42
jvgrantsince everything else is already changed, just a lot of little changes all over16:42
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jvgrantthat is all16:43
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hongbinThanks jvgrant for working on this efforts, The renaming is a large amount of work than I ever thought16:43
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hongbinjvgrant: thanks for your huge contribution :)16:44
adrian_otto+116:44
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DragoIt's just a simple sed command, sheesh ;)16:44
jvgranthongbin: your welcome, it was much bigger than i thought as well :) 10000+ lines of changes so far16:44
strigaziDrago xD16:44
adrian_ottobetter now than later16:44
muraliawow! :)16:44
hongbin#topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango)16:45
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hongbintonanhngo: ^^16:45
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tonanhngoI attended the Kuryr meeting yesterday.  Good things that they now are back to weekly meeting16:45
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tonanhngoRelease 1 is still ongoing, and they start implementing Release 2 with the Rest/API server16:45
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tonanhngoI raised our concern about security, because they are storing service credential in the VM config file16:46
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tonanhngoThey acknowledge the concern and will address it in their implementation16:46
tonanhngoThere was a video conference last week to work on the implementation for Kubernetes CNI16:47
strigaziyou mean openstack usename and password?16:47
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tonanhngostrigazi:  Neutron service name and password16:47
tonanhngoand rabbit16:47
strigazi:-O16:48
tonanhngosome of this is being changed in the Release 2, but they are still storing a new credential to talk to their Rest/API server16:48
tonanhngoSo, on going implementation there16:48
tonanhngoThey are making a push to implement the CNI driver by the Summit16:49
tonanhngobut it will certainly not be in Newton16:49
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tonanhngoI am testing the remaining patches for the older Kuryr driver with our Swarm cluster.16:50
tonanhngoI was thinking of making this for Newton, but given the security exposure, I am debating whether this is worth the effort16:50
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strigazithe default  swarm? 1.0.0 (for CERN's deployment it's a no go)16:51
tonanhngoAt best it will just be for experimenting, not for general use16:51
tonanhngoYes our current Swarm driver16:51
tonanhngoWe can just leave it as WIP for now, so people can try if out if they wat16:52
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tonanhngos/wat/want16:52
strigazisounds good16:52
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hongbinthanks tonanhngo16:52
hongbinany other comment?16:53
hongbin#topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:53
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hongbin1. Magnum Newton release16:53
hongbin#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html Newton release scheduler16:53
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hongbinas stated earlier, the deadline to land patches is the final release candidate week16:54
hongbinhowever, if you have patches, do it as soon as possible16:54
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hongbinso far, is there any patch that is not landed ?16:55
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muraliathe driver patch16:55
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hongbinmuralia: ack16:55
jvgrantlast bay to cluster patch16:55
tonanhngo2 more for the user guide16:55
hongbinjvgrant: tonanhngo ack16:55
strigazifinal update for the install-guide16:56
hongbinstrigazi: ack16:56
hongbinok. get that.16:56
strigaziwill happen last week, since I must check the distro packages16:56
hongbinall, try to finish it before the final release candidate week16:57
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hongbin#topic Open Discussion16:57
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DragoIt's a bit early, but should we start thinking about fishbowl/design session topics?16:57
DragoAt least put an etherpad up16:57
adrian_ottoI have a concern about our review queue16:57
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jvgranton release topic, i see a lot of reviews around config options, we should probably decide whether those are all going in before release or none16:58
jvgrantwouldn't want only half to make it16:58
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hongbinDrago: ok, we can do that16:59
strigazijvgrant, I think after, we might miss important thing if we do it in a hurry16:59
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adrian_ottowe have 100 reviews up, about half are in merge conflict, and many of them are three months old with no updates16:59
jvgrantstrigazi: that was my concern as well16:59
adrian_ottothere's too much up there to review in one sitting.16:59
hongbin#action hongbin clean up the review queue16:59
adrian_ottoI suggest abandoning the lower 50 of them16:59
tonanhngo+117:00
hongbinok, time is up17:00
hongbinall, thanks for joining the meeting17:00
hongbin#endmeeting17:00
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kzaitsev_mb#startmeeting murano17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  6 17:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
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kzaitsev_mbwe don't have any agenda today, so I expect meeting to be rather short =)17:01
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vakovalchuko/17:02
osh\o17:03
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kzaitsev_mbhi folks =)17:03
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kzaitsev_mbno AIs, let's go straight to open discussion and status updates17:04
kzaitsev_mb#topic Open Discussion17:04
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kzaitsev_mbFF is in effect and we have 2 FFEs — catalog reorg and GC17:04
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kzaitsev_mbI don't think I really have anything to add =))17:05
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kzaitsev_mbdo you guys? osh, vakovalchuk? =)17:06
vakovalchuknope17:06
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kzaitsev_mbok, I'll wait 5-10 mins to see if anyone comes by and let's get back to fixing  bugs prior to RC1 =)17:07
oshI have one short question. Do we need commit to add murano-related YAQL project to stackalytics?17:07
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kzaitsev_mbosh: nope, yaql is not part of murano17:08
kzaitsev_mbit's a completely separate project with a separate core team and is used a lot more than just by murano17:08
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oshNot to murano-group, to stackalytics. I called it murano-related just to explain why I'm asking it here (:17:09
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kzaitsev_mbosh: http://stackalytics.com/?project_type=all&module=yaql17:10
kzaitsev_mbthis?17:10
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kzaitsev_mboooh =) I'm top reviewer =)17:11
oshWow, I didn't find it in source code of stackalytics :(17:11
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oshForget this question (:17:11
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Nikolay_St=)17:14
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Nikolay_Stparty hard, yeah?17:14
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kzaitsev_mbok, folks. My suggestion is to finish the meeting and get back to fixing bugs? Any objections?17:15
oshDeal17:15
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vakovalchuk+17:16
kzaitsev_mbk. see you in #murano17:16
kzaitsev_mb#endmeeting17:16
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  6 19:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
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sslypushenkoo/19:00
catherineDsslypushenko: hello, how are you?19:00
sslypushenkoFine! Thx!19:01
catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-0619:01
sslypushenkoVery sorry that I missed previous meeting(19:01
pvanecko/19:01
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catherineDsslypushenko: np19:02
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-0619:02
catherineD#topic Implement additional properties Defcore waiver19:03
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catherineD#link  Implement additional properties Defcore waiver (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ )19:03
catherineDI think the spec is pretty much complete ...19:04
luzCo/19:04
catherineDhi luzC:  perfect timing https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-0619:04
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catherineDmy only question is ...  Would it be better to implement this feature in a new script  rather than as an option in refstack-client.?19:05
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catherineDbecause 1) This is a short term solution. 2) The implementation is quite complicate and making refstack-clent become very big.  In addition, the code should be remove after the waiser expired.19:05
luzCI like the idea of having it into the refstack-client but is up to you, hogepodge19:06
catherineDthe script still resides in refstack-client repository19:06
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catherineDrefstack-client is quite big right now ... there are legacy code in there  today since we were not active in remove legacy code19:07
sslypushenkocatherineD:  I'd vote for single script... two scripts will make things look complicated19:07
luzCalso about the results right now I was just thinking on having a combined refstack JSON result file (with success test cases from original subunit file plus the re-runed TCs)19:07
hogepodgeAs long as it's available and usable I don't have a strong opinion19:07
catherineDandrey-mp: pvaneck: how about you?19:08
hogepodgeIt would be nice to be able to add metadata to test results so we could identify things like the exception in the test result set, rather than have a weird split of that data19:08
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catherineDhogepodge: luzC: data would be the same ...19:08
catherineDso the new script be just for testing and it will generate the json19:08
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catherineDrefstack-client is used for uploading data ..19:09
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catherineDseparate script will avoid us the trouble to clean up refstack-client after the waiver is expired ...19:09
andrey-mpcatherineD: sorry, I didn't read last version of this spec19:10
catherineDsince this would be a 2 steps process any way ... 1) you test it first time with refstack-client , 2) you can retest with a new script or with refstack-client with new options 3) upload data usign refstack-client19:11
luzCandrey-mp spec is similar to the old version, the difference is on the tempest patch implementation -- now I'm patching only the tempest JSON schema19:12
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catherineDit is just an idea ... give it some thought .. we can revisit next week ... but I think the spec is near completion19:12
sslypushenkobtw... There is no other option except patching tempest?19:12
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luzCsslypushenko, no, the option of making a fix directly into Tempest was discussed and disregarded in the waiver discussion19:14
catherineDhogepodge: yea adding meta data seems like something to consider ... will add that to our todo list19:14
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catherineDluzC: I think you still can start your implementation ( subroutines ..) while we revisit where the code should be next weeks?19:15
catherineDI hope this does not stop you ...19:16
andrey-mpsslypushenko: I suggested to fix downloaded tempest once at the installation process (and add a flag to config) but this way suggested as not suitable...19:16
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catherineDandrey-mp: the issue is the waiver (thus tempest fix) is not for everyone19:17
catherineDthis is only for a number of vendors19:17
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andrey-mpcatherineD: i mean that some user can switch this block of code by same cli option19:19
catherineDsslypushenko: The reason I think 2 scripts because the waiver portion of the script is not applicable to most of the vendors and the changes are at the tempest layers ...there will be a lot of code at refstack_client that19:19
catherineDthat need to be removed later19:19
andrey-mpbut we talked about it previously very much - lets stop )19:20
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sslypushenkocatherineD:  I don't strong opinion here...19:20
catherineDso we all agree to implement waiver as an option to refstack-client?19:20
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sslypushenkoWhole idea sounds weird to me a bit... so I need to dig into details...19:21
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catherineDI do not mind either way .. .Just think that it will save us sometime when the waiver expired ...19:22
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catherineDdo we want to make decision now ? or discuss again next week?19:23
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sslypushenkoI don't mind on having waiver as an option to refstack-client19:23
catherineDok I think that is what andrey-mp: thinks too...19:24
andrey-mpyeah19:24
hogepodgecatherineD: additional properties will always be available as part of nova 2.0 api19:24
catherineD#agreed Implement waiver as an option to refstack-client19:24
hogepodgecatherineD: so there is potential to outlive short term19:24
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hogepodgecatherineD: low and diminishing, though19:25
catherineDyea I just want to point out something to the team19:25
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catherineDlet's move on ...19:25
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catherineDnow that we have decided to implement as an option19:26
catherineDmoving to the next topic ?19:26
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luzCyes, I agree... I'm submitting first version this week19:27
catherineDalright19:27
catherineD#topic Should we use the "meta" table to store verification info or add new column to" test" table19:27
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catherineDThis is applicable to the 2 specs19:28
catherineD#link     Specification to mark a test result as "used for verification". (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/  )19:28
catherineD#link     Specification to associate test results to vendor products. (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/ )19:28
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sslypushenkocatherineD:  basically there is no much to discuss19:28
sslypushenkoBoth approaches will work19:29
sslypushenkoSo it is up to the developer who will implement the spec19:29
catherineDwhich way do we as a team want to implement ... that is a discussion point19:29
andrey-mpit's very hard to store foreign_key in the meta field...19:29
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sslypushenkoandrey-mp:  no, it is not) but... as I already told... both approaches work for me19:30
catherineDandrey-mp: we did that today with meta key user ... but that may not be the best practice19:30
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andrey-mpfor me - i prefer separate fields for data that can be used for searching/sorting19:31
sslypushenkoI just want ot point in spec than cons of alternative solution are not very real...19:31
sslypushenkoand one more thing19:31
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sslypushenkoif we choose to not use meta table maybe we have to do some refactoring19:32
sslypushenkoto make things consistent19:33
catherineDsslypushenko: the verification and public_version_id are new fields so now refactoring needed19:33
catherineDsslypushenko:  you are right   guideline and target program will need refactoring19:33
andrey-mpsslypushenko: good idea. and I think that first step is to create guideline table and move link to guideline from meta to separate field19:34
sslypushenkogood...19:34
sslypushenkoThis approach works for me too...19:35
catherineDandrey-mp: separate fields in the "test" table?19:35
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andrey-mpcatherineD: yes19:35
andrey-mp"link to guideline/target that was used to build list of tests"19:35
andrey-mpsomething like this19:36
andrey-mpas described in Alex's document19:36
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catherineDI would like to have the table change in one implementation  patch19:36
andrey-mpcatherineD: what table do you mean?19:36
catherineDthe test table19:36
andrey-mpwhy?19:36
andrey-mpit's ok if verification and link to product will be in one patch19:37
catherineDso the two specs I have today will add verification_status and product_verion_id to the "test" table19:37
andrey-mpbut adding a guideline table and link to it - this is more complex task19:37
andrey-mpok. then I don't understand what exactly you want to see in this implementation patch19:38
catherineDandrey-mp: ok we will make guideline and target to the next time ... but the longer we waite the more data we need to deal with ... sicne today people do link to guideline via meta19:38
andrey-mpI think that people do link to guideline via UI...19:39
andrey-mphow many people use REST API?19:39
andrey-mpas I know - refstack-client can't do such thing19:40
catherineDdoes not matter how many people use REST API as long as the API is public it should be consider carefully ..19:40
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andrey-mpbut let's talk about guidelines later - right now you would to discuss other issues19:41
catherineDandrey-mp: example ... we think that people will use UI and would not see the OpenID in the results list ... but someone did and point out that OpenID exposure ..19:41
catherineDandrey-mp: agree to defer the gudeline update to later19:41
catherineD#agreed Will discuss where to save guideline later19:42
catherineDabout filtering ...19:42
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catherineDshould we implement it in patch or later ?19:43
andrey-mpin this path19:43
andrey-mppatch19:43
catherineDok19:43
andrey-mp4 additional lines19:43
andrey-mpall logic already present in the 'list' method19:44
catherineD#agreed Add filtering options  to  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/   and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/19:45
catherineDThose are all the areas I want to discuss for those 2 patches19:46
catherineDanything else before we move to the next topic ...19:46
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catherineDmoving on then ...19:46
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:47
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catherineD#link     Fix missing dependency in refstack-client (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361189/  )19:47
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catherineDI am testing on Ubuntu 14 and 16 LTS ... and RedHat ..19:48
catherineDnot testing on SUSE19:48
catherineDanyone else using SUSE?19:48
andrey-mpi'm not19:48
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sslypushenkocatherineD:  you can have SUSE in docker container19:49
sslypushenkoopenSUSE atleast19:49
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luzCi'm not19:49
catherineDsslypushenko: speaking of that ... refstack-client have changed a lot .... does the docker script need update?19:50
sslypushenkowhat script you are talking about?)19:50
catherineDsslypushenko: refstack-client ... sorry I should not change topic like that ..19:51
catherineDlet's talk about that later ...19:51
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sslypushenkook19:51
catherineDso for this patch I would just note that we tested it on Ubuntu and RedHat and then merge it ...?19:52
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catherineDI just do not have a SUSE vm handy19:52
catherineDI hope that is OK for all of us19:53
catherineDmoving on ...19:53
catherineDandrey-mp:     Authenticate user for update product with public key and signature  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335877/ ) and     Add register cloud command (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335883/ )19:54
catherineDI guess it need refactoring with the latest changes?19:54
catherineDof adding product version19:54
andrey-mpI guess it need some thoughts about usefulness of these patches )19:55
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andrey-mpright now 'register cloud' is not stated in any spec/document19:56
catherineDandrey-mp: yup .. sorry for that ... but I think we need those implemenation ..19:56
andrey-mpand I don't know is someone needs it or not19:56
catherineDandrey-mp: you are right ... we need to document those ... thx for bringing this up19:57
andrey-mpand your question about correctness of detected cpid...19:57
catherineDI will put that as one of our todo list19:57
andrey-mpok19:58
catherineDandrey-mp: I think detected cpid is needed when we in one day implement centralize testing ... that is our dream :-)19:58
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catherineD#topic Open Discussion19:58
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andrey-mptime is over...19:59
catherineDpvaneck: Please share with us about jenkin failure ..19:59
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pvaneckreal quick, functional gate jobs are now failing now that they are using xenial an dno longer trusty for it20:00
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pvaneckcurrently working on fixing it20:00
andrey-mpdo you need a help?20:00
luzCdo you have a link to take a look?20:01
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pvaneckandrey-mp, I don't think so, at least not yet20:01
pvaneckshould hopefully be a simple fix20:01
andrey-mppvaneck: ok20:01
pvaneckcan see failures here: #link http://logs.openstack.org/60/332260/8/check/gate-refstack-tox-db-py27-func-mysql-ubuntu-xenial/da49176/console.html20:01
catherineDluzC: http://logs.openstack.org/54/343954/9/check/gate-refstack-tox-db-py27-func-mysql-ubuntu-xenial/2ccdf9c/20:01
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luzCthanks20:01
catherineDalright20:02
catherineDthank you all for joining the meeting ...20:02
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catherineDespecially andrey-mp: sslypushenko: ... I know it is late for you ..20:02
catherineDbye everyone ..20:03
catherineD#endmeeting20:03
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sslypushenkocatherineD: it is my pleasure, bye20:03
andrey-mpbye20:03
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