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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 5 14:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
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| zhurong | ZhuRong | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi ZhuRong | 14:01 |
| caowei | hi all | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni | thanks zhurong and caowei for joining during your national holiday | 14:02 |
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| devkulkarni | we will keep the meeting short | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni | so the main things I have on agenda are following: | 14:02 |
| zhurong | thx devkulkarni | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Making ZhuRong as core | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni | 2) Submit a patch to tag new release | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni | 3) Cut newton branch by syncing up with dhellmann | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni | 4) Work on presentation for Barcelona | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: we have received two +1 votes from current cores and no objections from anyone for your core nomination | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni | so the path is clear for you to join the core team of solum :) | 14:04 |
| zhurong | thx, devkulkarni, thx all. :D | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni | I need to make some changes in gerrit so that you get the +2 powers. I hope to do that in next couple of days | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | :) | 14:05 |
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| devkulkarni | points 2 and 3 above are related | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | the openstack-release team has set a deadline of October 6th to create newton branch for all the projects | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | there was an email regarding this on the dev list | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | but before we cut newton branch, we should make sure that we have tagged latest release | 14:06 |
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| devkulkarni | for that, zhurong, I had a question for you | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | I was looking through the patches and saw a patch on which you have some comments | 14:07 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378168/4 | 14:07 |
| devkulkarni | I think we can add hacking rules in a separate patch | 14:07 |
| devkulkarni | what do you think? | 14:07 |
| zhurong | I think this is not import in newton | 14:08 |
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| zhurong | Those people had the same commit in every project | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | ah I see | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni | what about other patches? | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni | lets go through the list of outstanding patches | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | and see if any of them need to be in newton | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum+status:open,n,z | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-solumclient+status:open,n,z | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum-dashboard+status:open,n,z | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | caowei: you also please take a look | 14:09 |
| caowei | ok | 14:10 |
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| zhurong | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373618/ this and the OpenStack Proposal Bot two commits | 14:11 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong, caowei: about this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377922/ | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni | from proposal bot | 14:12 |
| zhurong | The others, IMO, are not very import in this release. | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni | there was mailing list discussion about new pecan release causing issues | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni | do you know if the version that is being proposed in the above patch is the one that might lead to the issues? | 14:13 |
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| zhurong | seems this add a != version, maybe will avoid some issues... | 14:15 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: how about this patch from kjwook_ | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380015/ | 14:16 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: yes, you are right. the pecan patch is actually adding a != for 1.2 | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni | which is what I think was the solution to the issue that was raised on the mailing list | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | I will double check that and then approvie it | 14:19 |
| zhurong | I haven't test, look give the option can use the token and service_type, I think we can keep it as it is in newton | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | yeah. I haven't heard this to be a issue from tgtanya or Ablu who have been using cli | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni | if service_type is required, we can add it | 14:22 |
| kjwook_ | I have problem only solum stable/mitaka | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: hi.. thanks for joining us | 14:22 |
| kjwook_ | My pleasure.. | 14:23 |
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| devkulkarni | kjwook_: have you tried using latest code for all three? (solum, python-solumclient, solum-dashboard)? | 14:24 |
| devkulkarni | also, if you want to introduce yourself to the team and discuss about your interest in solum, that would be awesome :) | 14:24 |
| kjwook_ | yeah… I tried mitaka lastest code | 14:25 |
| kjwook_ | Also devstack was mitaka | 14:25 |
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| zhurong | kjwook_ master code | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: +1 | 14:25 |
| kjwook_ | When I tried master code that was not wrong | 14:26 |
| zhurong | mitaka maybe solum-dashboard was broken too | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: ok, thanks for sharing this. | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, in mitaka solum-dashboard was not at the level where it is today | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: if you can share in what context you are looking at solum/mitaka, that would help. if there is no specific reason then I would recommend using the master code | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni | soon I hope to tag newton branch | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni | then you can use that | 14:27 |
| kjwook_ | service type error was occured only solum project… other project is not problem.. haha | 14:28 |
| kjwook_ | oh thanks | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: I see. thanks for sharing that point | 14:28 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: btw, yesterday tgtanya was having trouble starting solum-dashboard | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: http://paste.openstack.org/show/584206/ | 14:30 |
| zhurong | Did he share the log | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni | oh I see the error | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni | I just approved your patch which fixes that import | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni | I think that will resolve the issue | 14:31 |
| zhurong | Yep, my patch fix this | 14:31 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 14:31 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:31 |
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| devkulkarni | one last thing that I have is to remind you all to vote for electing members of the TC | 14:31 |
| devkulkarni | have you all received emails to vote? | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni | caowei, kjwook_, zhurong:? | 14:32 |
| zhurong | yep, i received the vote email | 14:32 |
| kjwook_ | Oh I’m not received.. | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: have you had a patch merged in any of the projects in last one year? | 14:32 |
| kjwook_ | but I have heard about vote my friend | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: ok I see. | 14:33 |
| caowei | yes | 14:33 |
| kjwook_ | yes I contribute one error to horizon | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | the electorate is everyone in openstack who has had a patch approved and merged in last year | 14:33 |
| caowei | i received the vote email | 14:33 |
| kjwook_ | kkk It was very small error | 14:33 |
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| kjwook_ | Ah | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | caowei, zhurong: good to know that you have received the email | 14:33 |
| kjwook_ | I merged last month.. | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: ah okay. In that case you might be eligible for voting for the next cycle (which will be in six months) | 14:34 |
| kjwook_ | Ah ok | 14:34 |
| kjwook_ | Thanks your statement | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni | caowei, zhurong: have you also seen the emails about candidates answering to questions raised by the community? | 14:34 |
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| devkulkarni | if not, I would encourage you to check those out from the email archive of openstack-dev mailing list | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/ | 14:35 |
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| zhurong | We are in holiday, so haven't read the maillist careful | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni | you should be able to find all the emails in the October 2016 archive | 14:36 |
| devkulkarni | I would encourage you to read the positions of various candidates | 14:36 |
| devkulkarni | do definitely vote before the deadline. each vote counts. | 14:37 |
| kjwook_ | hey devkulkarni I have some question about solum dashboard | 14:37 |
| zhurong | I will devkulkarni :D | 14:37 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: sure, what are those? | 14:37 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: :) | 14:37 |
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| kjwook_ | Why removed languagepack panel in mitaka branch? | 14:38 |
| caowei | I am not familiar with the candidates, I have not voted yet. | 14:38 |
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| caowei | but I'll check. | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni | kjwook_: actually, the languagepack panel was added after mitaka | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni | caowei: in that case you should definitely take a look at the position statements by each candidate and what their answers are for the questions asked by members of the community | 14:40 |
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| kjwook_ | oh why? | 14:40 |
| zhurong | devkulkarni maybe we forgot backport the dashboard commit to mitaka | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: yep | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni | we need to backport all the things that we have done on dashboard to mitaka | 14:41 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: but that might be lot of effort. another option is to recommend using newton | 14:41 |
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| devkulkarni | kjwook_: is there any specific reason you are looking to use solum/mitaka? | 14:42 |
| zhurong | yep, I agree this, since we will have stable/newton | 14:42 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, that is my thinking. | 14:42 |
| kjwook_ | ah no I dont have specific reason haha | 14:42 |
| devkulkarni | we will have newton soon | 14:42 |
| kjwook_ | ok | 14:42 |
| kjwook_ | So I use solum in master branch | 14:42 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: ok, in that case I would encourage you to use the master commits till we have newton branch | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 14:43 |
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| devkulkarni | use master of solum, solum-dashboard, and python-solumclient | 14:43 |
| kjwook_ | ok | 14:43 |
| kjwook_ | thanks | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:43 |
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| caowei | devkulkarni : ok , thanks | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. anything else that any of you want to discuss? | 14:44 |
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| devkulkarni | caowei: cool | 14:44 |
| kjwook_ | no I hope newton verson comming soon kk | 14:44 |
| zhurong | nothing from my side | 14:44 |
| caowei | nope | 14:44 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: yes, definitely | 14:44 |
| devkulkarni | alright then | 14:44 |
| devkulkarni | we can end and give back 15 minutes to zhurong and caowei | 14:44 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks for joining today caowei, zhurong, kjwook_ | 14:45 |
| devkulkarni | see you next week | 14:45 |
| kjwook_ | I want contribute to solum. | 14:45 |
| kjwook_ | ok | 14:45 |
| kjwook_ | thanks | 14:45 |
| zhurong | thx devkulkarni | 14:45 |
| devkulkarni | kjwook_: awesome!! | 14:45 |
| devkulkarni | we can chat more in solum irc channel | 14:45 |
| devkulkarni | let me end the meeting | 14:45 |
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| kjwook_ | ok | 14:45 |
| kjwook_ | thanks | 14:45 |
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| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 5 14:45:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-10-05-14.00.html | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-10-05-14.00.txt | 14:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-10-05-14.00.log.html | 14:45 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| jschwarz | hello :) | 15:01 |
| Swami | hi | 15:01 |
| haleyb | Swami: didn't know if you'd make it | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 5 15:01:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:02 |
| Swami | haleyb: I might have a hard stop at 8.30 since i need to go out for Dr's appt. | 15:02 |
| haleyb | Swami: np, thanks, promise not to assign you any "homework" after that :) | 15:03 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:03 | |
| haleyb | Just one general announcement - if you have any release critical issues raise them today, RC is done come Friday I believe | 15:04 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:04 |
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| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:05 | |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:05 |
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| Swami | This week we have one bug that has been tagged for dvr. I think it is an old bug but recently been tagged for DVR. | 15:06 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1629539 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629539 in neutron "Broken distributed virtual router w/ lbaas v1" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:06 |
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| Swami | The bug is related to supporting LBaaS v1 in Mitaka for DVR. | 15:06 |
| haleyb | that is almost too large of a bug description | 15:07 |
| Swami | It needs triaging. With respect to LBaaS v1 there should not be any issue, but we should look into it. | 15:07 |
| Swami | The person who filed bug states that the namespaces are in place and the iptable rules are in place, but he is not able to get to through the VIP. | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | Swami: right, and it's mitaka so it will be harder for us to reproduce (plain mitaka, stable, ?) | 15:09 |
| Swami | haleyb: yep | 15:09 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I am not even sure if LBaaS v1 is supported in Mitaka or not. | 15:09 |
| haleyb | Swami: fwiw that submitter does use the openstack list a bit, and a lot of issues are solved with configuration changes | 15:10 |
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| Swami | haleyb: good to know. | 15:10 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:10 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1593354 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593354 in neutron "SNAT HA failed because of missing nat rule in snat namespace iptable" [Undecided,New] | 15:10 |
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| Swami | jschwarz: Did you get a chance to validate this mitaka. | 15:11 |
| jschwarz | Swami, nope :< | 15:11 |
| Swami | jschwarz: no problem, can you confirm this week if possible. | 15:11 |
| jschwarz | Swami, will try | 15:12 |
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| Swami | jschwarz: ok thanks. | 15:12 |
| jschwarz | Swami, can't promise as my work week seems to be pretty tied by now :< | 15:12 |
| Swami | jschwarz: ok, I do have a mitaka setup and will try to test it. | 15:12 |
| jschwarz | Swami, excellent, thanks | 15:12 |
| Swami | The next in the list | 15:13 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1612192 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612192 in neutron "L3 DVR: Unable to complete operation on subnet" [High,Confirmed] | 15:13 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Did we see anymore of this bug in the gate this week. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | Swami: doing a logstash refresh now... nope | 15:14 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:15 |
| Swami | The follow on bug is also gate related one. | 15:16 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1612804 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612804 in neutron "test_shelve_instance fails with sshtimeout" [High,Confirmed] | 15:16 |
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| Swami | Let us keep monitoring it and see if there is real DVR issue there. | 15:17 |
| haleyb | i see some, but will have to do more filterint | 15:17 |
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| Swami | Ok, let us move on with the next one. | 15:17 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/140345 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 140345 in Coccinella "Errors getting messages in Tcl chatroom" [Medium,Fix released] | 15:17 |
| haleyb | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1403455 maybe :) | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403455 in neutron "neutron-netns-cleanup doesn't clean up all L3 agent spawned processes" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia) | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:18 |
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| Swami | There is no existing patch yet for this bug and it has been tagged for RC3. Is it going to happen. | 15:19 |
| haleyb | i don't know if manjeet is online? not sure of nick | 15:19 |
| Swami | haleyb: have you seen any patch on this bug, but I do see that there were lot of discussions. | 15:19 |
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| haleyb | it won't make rc3 as it's not critical | 15:20 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:20 |
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| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:20 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1606741 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1606741 in neutron "Metadata service for instances is unavailable when the l3-agent on the compute host is dvr_snat mode" [High,In progress] | 15:20 |
| Swami | The existing patch is still under merge conflict. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352686/ | 15:21 |
| Swami | I do see comments in there for alternate approach. | 15:21 |
| haleyb | the person working on that un-assigned the bug, and hasn't updated the patch recently | 15:21 |
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| Swami | haleyb: ok if we don't see any response we can take it up. | 15:22 |
| haleyb | Ok, last comment from assaf was looking for options | 15:23 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes did see that. | 15:23 |
| Swami | There is one more bug related to Metadata which kind skipped from our radar. | 15:23 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1526855 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526855 in neutron "VMs fail to get metadata in large scale environments" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:23 |
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| Swami | This is VM instance not able to reach the metadata proxy within the given retry count. | 15:24 |
| Swami | This is only seen with DVR and I think it is because of the Dynamic nature of the router creation in DVR. | 15:24 |
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| jschwarz | discon | 15:24 |
| jschwarz | oops | 15:24 |
| Swami | This is only also seen for the new routers that are created for the VM instances that has a subnet on the router. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | We need to figure out is there a way to speed up this process. Again it might be tricky or thats how it works. | 15:25 |
| Swami | jschwarz: no problem, recently it has been disconnecting quiet often. | 15:26 |
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| Swami | I am currently investigating this issue. | 15:26 |
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| Swami | The next one is | 15:26 |
| haleyb | Swami: or make sure the ML2 logic exists for this? i.e. port not plugged before router ready | 15:26 |
| * haleyb can't remember the name at the moment | 15:27 | |
| Swami | haleyb: will check it out. | 15:27 |
| Swami | The next one is | 15:27 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1506567 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506567 in neutron "No information from Neutron Metering agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:27 |
| Swami | I need some review on this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/377108 | 15:27 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, i owe you another review on that | 15:28 |
| Swami | haleyb: I have addressed all your original comments. | 15:28 |
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| Swami | The next one is | 15:28 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1571676 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571676 in neutron "After binding a floating IP to VM, the static route can't work in DVR." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:28 |
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| Swami | This patch also needs final review. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/ | 15:29 |
| Swami | That's all I had for bugs. | 15:29 |
| jschwarz | nothing from me | 15:29 |
| Swami | There are two more patches related to the RFE. | 15:29 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1577488 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577488 in neutron "[RFE]"Fast exit" for compute node egress flows when using DVR" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:30 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/ - patch 1 | 15:30 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355062/ - patch 2 | 15:30 |
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| Swami | As we wind up on the Newton RC release this week, I hope we can pay attention to this RFE patch in the coming week to push it in. | 15:31 |
| Swami | haleyb: That's all I had for this week. | 15:31 |
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| haleyb | Swami: yes, i will get back to reviewing all your patches | 15:31 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:32 |
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| haleyb | #topic Gate Failures | 15:33 |
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| Swami | haleyb: jschwarz: I need to leave now. If you have any questions ping me in the IRC channel when I am available. | 15:33 |
| haleyb | I don't think DVR has been a gate issue as of late | 15:33 |
| jschwarz | Swami, bye | 15:34 |
| haleyb | Swami: see you later, thanks | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: on the topic of gate things, any progress on the HA job front? | 15:35 |
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| jschwarz | haleyb, I'm not actively working on it - anilvenkata is | 15:36 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, I don't see him around so I don't have an answer for this | 15:36 |
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| jschwarz | haleyb, I did see a talk between anil, amuller and clarkb about 3-nodes setups for gate jobs | 15:36 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: yes, i didn't see him figured you might know | 15:36 |
| jschwarz | to say the least, clarkb was not very happy about this prospect seeing as how 2-nodes setups are fragile as it is with the subnetpools | 15:37 |
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| jschwarz | so this might be difficult to achieve... maybe we need to emphesize that it'll be used only in experimental jobs right now | 15:37 |
| haleyb | then someone has to fix subnetpools :) | 15:38 |
| jschwarz | XD | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | let's move on then | 15:39 |
| haleyb | #topic Stable backports | 15:39 |
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| haleyb | I have been tracking most of the backports, does anyone have one I missed? | 15:39 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, Anil submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382191/ which might be relevant to us | 15:39 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: i guess that's directed at you since it's just us and crickets | 15:40 |
| jschwarz | lol | 15:40 |
| jschwarz | I like the sound of crickets in the evening | 15:40 |
| haleyb | there was a stable/mitaka as well, both have some typos in the release notes, and seem to fail jenkins | 15:41 |
| jschwarz | aye, I see that now | 15:41 |
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| jschwarz | also i see that Anil has quite a few of backports: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22venkata+anil%22+status:open | 15:41 |
| jschwarz | most notably the famous l2pop patch | 15:42 |
| haleyb | i'll make sure i'm a reviewer so i get notified | 15:42 |
| jschwarz | I'm sure anil will appreciate :) | 15:43 |
| haleyb | #topic Open discussion | 15:44 |
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| jschwarz | haleyb, so how about that presidential debate? | 15:44 |
| jschwarz | ;-) | 15:44 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: should have been called the not-so-presidential debate ? | 15:45 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, it's a bit amusing to watch from the outside, so I'm not complaining | 15:45 |
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| haleyb | it just shouldn't be amusing :( | 15:46 |
| haleyb | anyways... | 15:46 |
| jschwarz | nothing from me today | 15:46 |
| jschwarz | except that Israeli holidays suck so I'm barely working from now till the summit | 15:46 |
| jschwarz | :< | 15:46 |
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| * jschwarz is a dedicated worker | 15:47 | |
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| jschwarz | some would say, workaholic | 15:48 |
| haleyb | i work to live, used to live to work but too old for that now :) | 15:48 |
| jschwarz | reasonable :) | 15:48 |
| haleyb | someone has to ruin the golf course | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | ok, we're done it seems | 15:50 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 5 15:50:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-10-05-15.01.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-10-05-15.01.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-10-05-15.01.log.html | 15:50 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: thanks for coming | 15:50 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, of course | 15:50 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, shame not more people show up :< | 15:50 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, could I ask you to give https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365326/ a spin? | 15:51 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: sure, will look | 15:52 |
| jschwarz | merci | 15:52 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Hi folks - we have ML2 meeting this morning | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev_ | who is here to attend ML2 meeting? | 16:02 |
| andreas_s | Hi Sukhdev_ | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : I do not see rkukura | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : I have an urgent issue come up and can not chair this meeting and rkukura is not available - can you chair the meeting today? | 16:04 |
| andreas_s | if there's nobody else, we can just skip it | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : Lets do that then | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s: I am sorry - I have to really leave to attend this | 16:05 |
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| andreas_s | ok, see you next week | 16:05 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 5 17:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:01 |
| rsyed2 | o/ | 17:01 |
| elarson | O/ | 17:01 |
| sonuk_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| mugsie | Kiall: federico3 pglass ping | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | #topic Announcemnets | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | so, RC2 was tagged, and will be the release arifact | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Action items from last week | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | Kiall timsim - review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374308/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | done | 17:03 |
| mugsie | mugsie bp ae6e84810033a02a8c4e6d729958333c682e8b4a Resolve description parameter in v2:set floating ip | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie bp ae6e84810033a02a8c4e6d729958333c682e8b4a Resolve description parameter in v2:set floating ip | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | #topic Bug Triagge | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | timsim: :) | 17:04 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1627941 I think is waiting on mugsie | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627941 in Designate "Zone transfer accept is forbidden for the non admin users " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:04 |
| timsim | Now for actual new ones: | 17:04 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1630666 | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630666 in Designate "monasca-statsd is a non-optional import even when disabled" [Undecided,New] | 17:04 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:04 |
| mugsie | I saw that just before the meeting | 17:04 |
| mugsie | I kinda think not installing our requirements.txt is bad | 17:05 |
| timsim | Yeah isn't it better to instal something you don't need then to not have a thing you might need and have to go hunt it down? | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | I would have thought so | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Yea, but it probably should be optional.. kinda like pymysql is | 17:05 |
| timsim | I've had to do that for some memcached thing before. | 17:06 |
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| timsim | and that | 17:06 |
| timsim | and it suckss | 17:06 |
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| timsim | Because they you have to explicitly spell it out and pin a version in automation | 17:06 |
| mugsie | Yeah | 17:06 |
| mugsie | dmsimard: is the reporter | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Yea ... We could use setup.cfg optional requirement groups.. but openstack infra isn't set up to handle them | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | e.g. no auto updates as requirements versions change | 17:07 |
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| dmsimard | hey, just joined | 17:07 |
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| dmsimard | I don't have much time, have to step away | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yeah - I perfer to have this in requirements, as it is under development, and not as an option | 17:07 |
| dmsimard | I'm just saying this sounds like it should be an optional backend.. just like when I install Glance, it doesn't require me to install Ceph or Swift because my choice is the file backend. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | as we dont have anything else that can slot in there right now | 17:07 |
| dmsimard | Pretend designate implements metrics collections with, I don't know, gnocchi/ceilometer and such. Will you require that as well ? | 17:07 |
| timsim | It's not really requiring that you install that hough, just a client? | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | dmsimard: Yea, makes sense... We do the same with e.g. mysql. But.. Trying to find a balance between just works, works with -infra tools, and least footprint is .. yea ;) | 17:08 |
| timsim | Same with keystoneauth1/keystonemiddleware, python-memcached | 17:08 |
| elarson | One danger with the extra req is the extra deps it might bring with it | 17:09 |
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| dmsimard | I'll leave that up to you, just user/developer/deployer feedback :) | 17:09 |
| dmsimard | I have to step out for now but I'll be available to discuss later if you have any questions | 17:09 |
| Kiall | For me, I'd love to see the requirements process handle optional requirement groups - that solves this problem "the right way" | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | OK, thanks dmsimard | 17:09 |
| elarson | But generally, adding clients doesn't bother me, especially if it keeps deps out config management | 17:09 |
| timsim | Plus, it's currently required in the code. So it's not really optional. That should probably change, but still. | 17:10 |
| mugsie | yeah - I can see both sides | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Why don't we tag this low, no release, and see if requirements folks have plans around optional groups | 17:10 |
| mugsie | what do we think? move the bug to "this should be optional" ? | 17:10 |
| mugsie | Kiall: +1 | 17:10 |
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| timsim | Yeah +1 Kiall | 17:11 |
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| elarson | +1 | 17:11 |
| timsim | Who wants to do that? | 17:11 |
| mugsie | OK, - do what Kiall suggested | 17:11 |
| timsim | Give them an action | 17:11 |
| mugsie | I can talk to -requrements | 17:11 |
| timsim | Alright | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie talk to requirements team about optional requireemtns | 17:11 |
| timsim | I closed this out before the meeting https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1628800 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628800 in Designate "Designate Blacklist :Blacklisted zones patterns are not checked while create zone using admin." [Undecided,Invalid] | 17:12 |
| mugsie | +1 | 17:12 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1630186 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630186 in python-designateclient "'openstack zone list --all-projects' failing with unexpected exception." [Undecided,New] | 17:12 |
| timsim | Seems legit | 17:12 |
| Kiall | policy allows it, you can customize if needs be | 17:12 |
| mugsie | -_- | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | tahts new | 17:12 |
| Kiall | and legit, as timsim says. | 17:13 |
| mugsie | high, triaged | 17:13 |
| Kiall | Though - I'm nearly sure we've seen that one before and fixed it. | 17:13 |
| timsim | cool. That's it | 17:13 |
| mugsie | did we ? | 17:13 |
| Kiall | I think so - but I don't remember what we were talking about 5mins ago, so..... | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #topic Backports - Kiall | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/584510/ | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Does ^ look complete? | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:14 |
| mugsie | its been slow | 17:14 |
| Kiall | As usual, take a few, nominate backports | 17:14 |
| Kiall | 277dcae Merge "Infoblox: Reverse lookup zone creation fails" | 17:14 |
| Kiall | (already done) | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | I think that ios back | 17:15 |
| timsim | Yeah, and that's probably it, yeah? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | thats it really | 17:15 |
| Kiall | Yep - I think that's it, nothing else warrants a backport in that list./ | 17:15 |
| mugsie | #topic Design Summit | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | this is the allocation of rooms | 17:15 |
| mugsie | we have 6 | 17:15 |
| mugsie | one is a big room | 17:16 |
| mugsie | so the usual "meet DNS team" | 17:16 |
| mugsie | and then we have 5 40 mins slots | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-ocata-summit-planning | 17:16 |
| mugsie | ^ is pretty light | 17:16 |
| mugsie | We can nominate them as "Working Sessions" - I saw a few teams do that last time | 17:17 |
| mugsie | but I would like a few named sessions | 17:17 |
| mugsie | there is on for the NS propegation | 17:17 |
| mugsie | one* | 17:17 |
| elarson | One thing that might be cool is queuing work outside of retries | 17:17 |
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| timsim | That was kind of in the worker spec, being able to queue different types of things independently and have logic to work on them | 17:18 |
| timsim | But there wasn't a simple solution | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | yeah. it is also a bigger change than I would like to see in Ocata | 17:18 |
| elarson | Yeah, worker model enables it. The job spec further enables it as well | 17:18 |
| elarson | Just throwing it out there! | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | :) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | any other suggestions? | 17:19 |
| elarson | Beer! | 17:20 |
| mugsie | OK, if people think of them, ping me with them | 17:20 |
| mugsie | soon | 17:20 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:20 |
| timsim | What's the deadline mugsie ? | 17:20 |
| mugsie | I will be setting the schedule real soon | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | friday AFAIK | 17:20 |
| timsim | cool | 17:21 |
| timsim | I'll try and think of more things | 17:21 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | #topic Pike PTG (Project Teams Gathering) | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | We have been asked if we will be attending the first PTG | 17:22 |
| mugsie | it will be in Austin | 17:22 |
| mugsie | nope | 17:22 |
| mugsie | Atlanta | 17:22 |
| mugsie | Feb 20-24 | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | it is envisaged that this will replace Mid Cycles | 17:22 |
| timsim | Hm. I'm betting you guys would have a hard time getting there? | 17:23 |
| mugsie | If I go, I will be paying my own way | 17:23 |
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| mugsie | go, talk to people internally, and find out if you can go | 17:23 |
| mugsie | I need to give the foundation an answer by the 16th | 17:24 |
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| mugsie | so I will be pinging you about it | 17:24 |
| timsim | Alright, we'll give it a shot. | 17:24 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:25 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | any off agenda items? | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | going once | 17:25 |
| mugsie | twice | 17:25 |
| mugsie | thrice | 17:25 |
| mugsie | gone! | 17:25 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 5 17:25:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-10-05-17.01.html | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-10-05-17.01.txt | 17:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-10-05-17.01.log.html | 17:25 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:26 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 5 18:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:00 |
| aliadil_ | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | anyone here for trove meeting say aye! | 18:01 |
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| amrith | hello vgnbkr aliadil_ | 18:01 |
| aliadil_ | hi amrith | 18:01 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | hi spilla | 18:01 |
| spilla | hi amrith | 18:01 |
| amrith | lets give folks a couple of minutes | 18:01 |
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| amrith | this may be a short meeting | 18:01 |
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| peterstac | o/ | 18:02 |
| amrith | hi peter | 18:02 |
| amrith | I don't have much for the meeting today | 18:02 |
| peterstac | hi amrith | 18:02 |
| amrith | there were no action items from last time | 18:03 |
| johnma | hi amrith | 18:03 |
| peterstac | that's ok by me :) | 18:03 |
| amrith | #topic Newton release schedule | 18:03 |
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| amrith | hi johnma | 18:03 |
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| amrith | tomorrow the newton release will be cut | 18:03 |
| amrith | there is one translation for dashboard that came in too late | 18:03 |
| amrith | it'll make the next release for newton | 18:03 |
| amrith | don't have anything further to add about that | 18:04 |
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| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:04 |
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| amrith | an email went out to all PTL's asking to confirm whether our respective teams would participate in the PTG in Atlanta. | 18:05 |
| amrith | I confirmed that Trove would attend. | 18:05 |
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| amrith | we now have an idea of the room allocations for Barcelona. | 18:05 |
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| amrith | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true | 18:05 |
| johnma | I was about to ask about barcelona summit. thanks amrith | 18:06 |
| amrith | you'll see the rooms that we have ... (they are marked Trove) | 18:06 |
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| amrith | we need to make our schedule for the design session, I'll be working on that. An etherpad is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-barcelona-design-summit-sessions | 18:07 |
| amrith | please propose topics there. | 18:07 |
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| amrith | Some of us have presentations at Barcelona that we have to prepare for. | 18:07 |
| amrith | I know that johnma and I have one | 18:07 |
| amrith | dougshelley66 has some | 18:08 |
| amrith | not sure who else | 18:08 |
| amrith | That's about all I had for Open Discussion | 18:08 |
| amrith | We have several large change sets that are still in need of reviews | 18:09 |
| dougshelley66 | Emily has a presentation | 18:09 |
| amrith | I've been working on a couple; get rid of trove-integration and redstack, and one I've been workign with along with vgnbkr on API versioning. | 18:09 |
| amrith | mvandijk_ has a couple | 18:09 |
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| amrith | vgnbkr has some specs that are in need of review | 18:09 |
| johnma | I am testing Matt's changes and Petr's right now. hopefully will be done before end of day today | 18:10 |
| amrith | thx dougshelley66 yes. forgot that one. | 18:10 |
| johnma | Petr's related to postgresql | 18:10 |
| amrith | johnma, thanks for the comments and change on trove-image-builder | 18:10 |
| amrith | I'm trying to get the next one behind that (dsvm tests) and having some challenges. | 18:10 |
| amrith | that's all I've got. | 18:12 |
| trevormc | I remember discussion about this at the last summit but... what about supporting multiple versions of the same datastore? Running both mysql 5.5 and 5.6. | 18:12 |
| trevormc | I think we concluded storing different versions of config for the different datastore would be a challenging task. | 18:13 |
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| amrith | trevormc, I don't know that anyone has signed up to do that (for ocata) | 18:13 |
| amrith | I may be wrong | 18:14 |
| amrith | but I don't think so | 18:14 |
| amrith | dougshelley66, is that on your list? | 18:14 |
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| dougshelley66 | amrith not presently | 18:14 |
| amrith | thx | 18:14 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] publish the ocata plan/list of things | 18:15 |
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| amrith | I have a list, I have to publish it ... | 18:15 |
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| amrith | trevormc, you'd asked earlier about projects to work on. here's one that has been around for a while and is in need of an owner. | 18:16 |
| amrith | Get rid of schema downgrade code https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1434103 | 18:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434103 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "SQL schema downgrades are no longer supported" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Nikhil Manchanda (slicknik) | 18:16 |
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| amrith | There has been discussion about this off and on, but we never did conclude one way or the other. | 18:16 |
| amrith | that I can recall. | 18:16 |
| amrith | Does anyone have strong objections to this project? | 18:16 |
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| trevormc | amrith: Ok I will work on getting rid of the schema downgrade code, seems like there are implementations I can use as a reference. | 18:18 |
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| amrith | yes | 18:19 |
| amrith | peterstac, johnma, ... others ... OK with this? | 18:19 |
| johnma | amrith: I am sorry but I got disconnected in between. So I missed the earlier messages | 18:19 |
| amrith | >> trevormc, you'd asked earlier about projects to work on. here's one that has been around for a while and is in need of an owner. | 18:20 |
| amrith | >> Get rid of schema downgrade code https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1434103 | 18:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434103 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "SQL schema downgrades are no longer supported" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016) | 18:20 |
| amrith | >> There has been discussion about this off and on, but we never did conclude one way or the other. | 18:20 |
| amrith | >> that I can recall. | 18:20 |
| amrith | >> Does anyone have strong objections to this project? | 18:20 |
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| johnma | I am fine with trevormc looking at this. | 18:21 |
| peterstac | I'm ok with that | 18:21 |
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| peterstac | Maybe it can be done in two steps - right now we have checks that insist there's a downgrade path | 18:22 |
| peterstac | so even though we don't care any more, we still have to add it to new changes | 18:22 |
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| peterstac | maybe we can get rid of that first, and then rip out the rest? | 18:23 |
| amrith | sounds good, thx peterstac, johnma. | 18:23 |
| amrith | #action [trevormc] to look at Get rid of schema downgrade code https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1434103 | 18:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434103 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "SQL schema downgrades are no longer supported" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016) | 18:24 |
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| amrith | There is one other review that may be worth talking about | 18:24 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379317/ | 18:24 |
| amrith | This review tries to deal with hacking rule H301 | 18:24 |
| amrith | history: | 18:24 |
| amrith | this was discussed a long time ago | 18:24 |
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| amrith | 2014-10-22 to be precise | 18:25 |
| amrith | and the feeling then was overwhelmingly negative to the change | 18:25 |
| amrith | 18:46:47 <openstack> Yes (3): AJaeger_, SushilKM_, SlickNik 18:46:48 <openstack> Indifferent (1): iccha1 18:46:49 <openstack> No (9): schang, tomblank, robertmyers, amrith, vgnbkr, amcrn, cp16net, grapex_, dougshelley66 | 18:25 |
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| amrith | The cast of characters is now very different | 18:25 |
| amrith | so I'd like to at least see what the sense of the team is | 18:25 |
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| amrith | The change would make many changes (as you can see from the review) | 18:26 |
| amrith | and generally be a nusiance to merge as it juggles import lines | 18:26 |
| peterstac | My only point would be if we decide to do it, it has to go in now | 18:26 |
| peterstac | otherwise we'll spend too much time rebasing | 18:26 |
| amrith | i agree | 18:26 |
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| amrith | i've seen the following here today, johnma peterstac vgnbkr spilla aliadil_ dougshelley66 trevormc | 18:27 |
| amrith | what do y'all think? | 18:27 |
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| amrith | my vote is -1 | 18:27 |
| vgnbkr | Unless someone can explain to me how this would make the product more correct or easier to understand, let's concentrate on useful things. | 18:28 |
| amrith | vgnbkr, that sounds like +1? :) | 18:28 |
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| trevormc | so +1 is yes and -1 is no? | 18:29 |
| amrith | oh, ok. | 18:29 |
| amrith | let's make this a regular vote | 18:29 |
| vgnbkr | But what do yes and no mean? The question was "what do you think"? | 18:29 |
| trevormc | yes to merge no is not to merge | 18:29 |
| vgnbkr | Then how would my comment above be taken as a yes/+1? | 18:30 |
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| trevormc | I like hacking rules so I would vote yes, but the importance is low so I move my vote to Indifferent. That's how I feel about it. | 18:30 |
| amrith | #startvote Should we go ahead with this project of H301. Yes, No, Maybe | 18:31 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 18:31 |
| peterstac | I'm indifferent too (but I'm almost finished reviewing it nontheless) | 18:31 |
| trevormc | #vote Maybe | 18:31 |
| amrith | #startvote Should we go ahead with this project of H301 Yes, No, Maybe | 18:31 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 18:31 |
| peterstac | #vote maybe | 18:31 |
| amrith | well, I can't seem to get the vote to work | 18:31 |
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| amrith | Should we go ahead with this project? | 18:32 |
| amrith | Yes, | 18:32 |
| amrith | No, | 18:32 |
| amrith | Maybe? | 18:32 |
| vgnbkr | No | 18:32 |
| peterstac | Maybe | 18:32 |
| amrith | amrith: no | 18:32 |
| trevormc | Maybe | 18:32 |
| johnma | No (I don't see any value) | 18:32 |
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| amrith | Ok, sounds like no one is saying Yes | 18:34 |
| amrith | so I am inclined to say no | 18:35 |
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| amrith | #decided I will update the review and say we are not doing this. | 18:36 |
| amrith | #agreed [amrith] update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379317 with the decision to not take this change | 18:37 |
| amrith | does anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss | 18:37 |
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| trevormc | I just wanted to bring attention to this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340022/ | 18:38 |
| amrith | hearing none, ... time to adjourn? | 18:38 |
| trevormc | this is someone from my org and he has asked for help getting this patch merged, I left a review and told him to add unit tests. | 18:39 |
| amrith | it seems like it is marked with WF-1 now ... | 18:40 |
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| amrith | my concern with this change from the beginning was that the bug started to address one issue, then pivoted around and ended up somewhere totally different. | 18:40 |
| peterstac | It's a lot of patchsets for a one-line commit message too | 18:40 |
| trevormc | Yeah he needs to add the unit tests.. he also said he will update his commit message. | 18:41 |
| amrith | and I have no idea what it is really intending to do | 18:41 |
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| amrith | that was one of my comments to him (or maybe more). | 18:41 |
| trevormc | That's what i thought, if you have questions I can send them to him. Contacting him is tricky since he works in international times. | 18:41 |
| amrith | see my comment August 26 at 1:15pm | 18:41 |
| ShaikApsar | Hi | 18:42 |
| trevormc | There he is! | 18:42 |
| amrith | hi ShaikApsar | 18:42 |
| amrith | and as peterstac says, a single line commit message leaves a lot to the reviewer to try and figure out | 18:42 |
| ShaikApsar | i'm trying to to fix the Client' object has no attribute 'tenants' | 18:43 |
| ShaikApsar | i will update the commit with more details | 18:43 |
| amrith | what would be great is to know how this impacts you, and what you have to do (or not do) to have this problem. | 18:44 |
| ShaikApsar | amrith: you suggested few changes for the patch with respect context.auth_token | 18:44 |
| trevormc | Amrith did you see my comment on the bug in launchpad? I had to enable the ceilometer plugin to get the error to appear. | 18:44 |
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| amrith | trevormc, no. I tuned out of this review a while ago with newton getting out of the door and it being clear that this wasn't in newton | 18:46 |
| amrith | in any event ShaikApsar trevormc this review is now sitting with a WF-1. How about you respin it and then we see what it is about? | 18:48 |
| amrith | does that make sense? | 18:48 |
| ShaikApsar | yes | 18:48 |
| amrith | ok, thx | 18:48 |
| amrith | anything else ... | 18:48 |
| trevormc | Yes amrith, just trying to get it on the radar again. I will be looking forward to the next patch. | 18:48 |
| amrith | as soon as it has no WF -1's it will be on the radar ... | 18:49 |
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| amrith | motion to adjourn? ... | 18:49 |
| amrith | ... anyone ... | 18:50 |
| peterstac | seconded :) | 18:50 |
| amrith | thanks peterstac | 18:50 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 5 18:50:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-10-05-18.00.html | 18:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-10-05-18.00.txt | 18:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-10-05-18.00.log.html | 18:50 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 5 20:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy folks! | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi there | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| johnsom | I don't have any major announcements this week. Octavia is open for Ocata merge. | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | I have an announcement! | 20:00 |
| johnsom | We are planning to have a fishbowl meeting in Barcelona | 20:01 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Go for it | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Due to changes in the team I'm in at IBM, I will very, very likely be taken off of working on upstream Octavia and Neutron-LBaaS. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Ugh | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | I've not been told to stop working on it yet, so my goal is to get as many reviews of stuff done in the short term as I can. | 20:01 |
| * johnsom is sad | 20:01 | |
| sbalukoff | And hopefully get some code for y'all merged. | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | I have also been told I'm still going to Barcelona. | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | But you can expect there to be very little coming from my corner after Barcelona. | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | That is good. At least it won't be just Doug, Adam, and I in the design summit session | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | And if I'm totally taken off, I'll probably ask y'all to remove my core credentials. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Ok. Sorry to hear it. | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | In any case, I recommend we start looking at who is contributing and elect another core or two soon. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I hope we can make good progress on getting Act/Act in shape | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Anyway, that's all I had to say for now. Figured y'all ought to know. | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, we talked about that at the mid-cycle. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Thank you for the update. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 20:04 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:04 | |
| sbalukoff | O! | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Ok, I have been working to get the functional tests going again. I have also been working from the back on catching up with reviews. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | This patch is still outstanding: | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380020/ | 20:05 |
| johnsom | There are a few that I think are ready short of some minor cleanup. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | It would be great if I could get some reviews and get to a merge-able state before I'm no longer on the project. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Yep, I should probably bump that forward on my list. I was working from the back in "fairness" to the older patches, but yes, there is now urgency. | 20:06 |
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| sbalukoff | *nod* | 20:06 |
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| sbalukoff | Again, my intent is to just do lots of reviews until they tell me to stop. :) | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Yes, thank you. I am definitely in "review" mode now too | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other updates? | 20:07 |
| johnsom | I think ptoohill has quotas close if not ready for review | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Are we the only ones at this meeting? o.O | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, cool! I'll check out ptoohill's patch then. | 20:08 |
| johnsom | I was wondering, but didn't want to know the answer..... | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | Carlos also has sorting/pagination in progress. I think he still has a few things to finish up on it | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Is dougwig around today? | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:09 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Oh hey! Hi german! | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Er... xgerman. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | The next three items on the agenda I was hoping he could comment on. Two were carryovers he was looking into for us. | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | Aah, yes. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | The new one is about the Go web server Dustin posted. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Personally I don't have a problem with it, but I know the TC has made Go a bad word, so wanted some feedback. | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | Everything is faster in GO - they are just jealous | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | I actually think having a more versatile, low-resource, simple-to-configure and standards-compliant webserver for scenario testing makes a LOT of sense. | 20:11 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:11 |
| johnsom | Ok, so no dougwig today. I guess we will carry those again. | 20:11 |
| xgerman | what happened to him? hunting season? | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Yeah. I'm just worried it is flying into the TC firestorm around go... | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | I've always disliked the netcat hack we've been using, and have suspected it for causing some of the troubleshooting issues we've had with scenario tests in the past. :/ | 20:12 |
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| sbalukoff | I mean, I'd take lighttpd over a netcat solution. | 20:12 |
| xgerman | we can always use a C/C++ web server? | 20:12 |
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| dougwig | was getting a crown, now i'm just sleepy. | 20:13 |
| dougwig | what's the deal with go? | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Well... we could also just use apache. But again, the nice part about Go here is it's damned simple and super-high performance (which will be useful if we get any C10k improvements in.) | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Which is also something Dustin wants to work on in the next few weeks. :/ | 20:13 |
| johnsom | dougwig The dentist again? Brush your teeth man.... | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | We'd love to rub a 500k-connection demo of Octavia in the IBM managers' faces. :) | 20:14 |
| johnsom | dougwig https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382067/3 | 20:14 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff awesome!! | 20:14 |
| johnsom | I don't have a concern about it other than "go" has been shunned by the TC recently. Thoughts? | 20:14 |
| dougwig | so, they said go can't be in the runtime path. that's a test. i'd say we commit it and move forward. | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Woot! | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Ok, cool. Yeah, it's purely test framework | 20:15 |
| dougwig | i expect if we made a big deal of it that it might be an issue, but... i'm in ask for forgiveness mode, if it makes our tests better. | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, I lean the same way | 20:16 |
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| sbalukoff | You'll hear no objections from me, eh! | 20:16 |
| johnsom | #topic Translations | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Translations (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:16 | |
| johnsom | Any update? | 20:16 |
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| dougwig | +2 | 20:17 |
| dougwig | sorry, no update, i spaced this. *goes to write it down this time.* | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Ok, NP | 20:17 |
| johnsom | #topic Debian package | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Debian package (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:18 | |
| dougwig | ditto. | 20:18 |
| johnsom | How about this one? | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Ok | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:18 | |
| dougwig | more correctly, my feelers were returned with, "i don't know", so i need to dig deeper on the debs | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Ok, other topics? | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | *crickets* | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! See you in the main channel! | 20:19 |
| dougwig | for a little while yet. :) | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Ok, on that note Doug can't go sleep and we can go review! | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 5 20:19:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:19 |
| dougwig | you said go twice in that sentence. golang on the brain. | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-10-05-20.00.html | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-10-05-20.00.txt | 20:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-10-05-20.00.log.html | 20:20 |
| xgerman | gogo | 20:20 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Ok-go. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Sigh | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Rubg-goldberg machines! | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Rube. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | k8 is the new OpenStack from what I hear... | 20:20 |
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| perelman | Hi | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | HAHAHA | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | perelman: You just missed the end of the meeting. | 20:20 |
| perelman | Oh... I am sorry | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | I will work on reviewing your patches this week. | 20:21 |
| perelman | Well will try to read the summary... it is holidays in israel :( | 20:21 |
| perelman | Thanks! | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! Happy holidays, eh! | 20:22 |
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| perelman | Thanks :) we have new year ;) | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Also, you should still be able to get a hold of people in #openstack-lbaas | 20:22 |
| perelman | Ok | 20:22 |
| perelman | When is their meeting? | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Um... this was the meeting you just missed. | 20:23 |
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| perelman | Hmm... ok | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | But everyone in the meeting typically hangs out in #openstack-lbaas all the time. | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | And is reachable during US business hours. | 20:23 |
| perelman | Ok... I understand u. Thanks! | 20:23 |
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| nmagnezi | sbalukoff, just read your announcement. sad to hear that :( | 20:26 |
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| sbalukoff | nmagnezi: Yeah, I'm not exactly jumping for joy over it either. :/ | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | sbalukoff, i hope things will work out for the best | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks! And me too! | 20:27 |
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| sbalukoff | nmagnezi: If you want to be a core, now would be the time to step up your code and review contributions. ;) | 20:28 |
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| nmagnezi | sbalukoff, aye sir :) | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | (Especially reviews) | 20:30 |
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