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| IgorYozhikov | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 13:02:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is IgorYozhikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:02 |
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| jpena | o/ | 13:02 |
| IgorYozhikov | Hi, let's spend sometime on agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:02 |
| dirk | o/ | 13:03 |
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| IgorYozhikov | #chair IgorYozhikov dirk | 13:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk | 13:03 |
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| toabctl | hi | 13:05 |
| IgorYozhikov | nice 2 c u toabctl | 13:05 |
| toabctl | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 13:05 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok, if we are done with agenda - let's start | 13:06 |
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| IgorYozhikov | #topic - keystone https://review.openstack.org/396262 + naming of some of python projects like memcached & ldap (python-python-foo?) (IgorYozhikov) | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- keystone https://review.openstack.org/396262 + naming of some of python projects like memcached & ldap (python-python-foo?) (IgorYozhikov) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:06 | |
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| IgorYozhikov | I see that most of ppl are here and want to discuss keystone | 13:07 |
| IgorYozhikov | and here I have 2 questions | 13:07 |
| IgorYozhikov | let me start from the tail of topic | 13:08 |
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| IgorYozhikov | question is mostly for SUSE side - is it normal from perspective of naming policy that some of packages has python-python-*? | 13:08 |
| dirk | it can happen, yes | 13:09 |
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| dirk | policy is python-$pypi_name | 13:09 |
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| dirk | so if pypi_name includes python- , then it will be python-python-foo | 13:09 |
| dirk | in the case of python-ldap, the pypi name is ldap, so it would be python-ldap | 13:09 |
| dirk | (and we use pyldap anyway, so the question is mood, proper name is python-pyldap in the suse sense) | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | ah, so I'll will update my PR and uncomment strings like # Requires: {{ py2pkg('python-ldap') }} | 13:10 |
| dirk | well, thats wrong anyway | 13:10 |
| dirk | it should be py2pkg("pyldap") :-) | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | got it and what about python-memcached? | 13:11 |
| dirk | the pypi name is python-memcached, our suse package name is python-python-memcached | 13:12 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, I can't find ldap on pypi, only https://pypi.org/simple/python-ldap/ | 13:12 |
| IgorYozhikov | might be I'm doing something wrong? | 13:13 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: anyway, keystone uses pyldap.. | 13:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | I got it, will build this dependency | 13:14 |
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| IgorYozhikov | so, it's become clear about naming | 13:14 |
| IgorYozhikov | so let's discuss keystone | 13:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | I need a feedback | 13:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | I found that testrepository is using all available vcpu and fails ^( | 13:16 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: can you remove the -2 then? I'll give it a review round.. | 13:16 |
| IgorYozhikov | so I set export TEST_RUN_CONCURRENCY=1 flag to run tests in 1 by 1 | 13:16 |
| IgorYozhikov | sure | 13:16 |
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| IgorYozhikov | done | 13:16 |
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| IgorYozhikov | also, is it necessary to add apache as run-time dependency? | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | or it should be done from perspective of cms side(puppet|chef|ansible|...)? | 13:18 |
| dirk | coincidentally we're just debating that wsgi stuff as well | 13:18 |
| dirk | some of our packages have it some don't | 13:18 |
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| dirk | its not necessary from cms side | 13:18 |
| dirk | I guess we should take a decision and do it that way for all openstack services.. | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl suggested to do not include a sub-package like keystone-apache | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | which is going to install httpd config in right place | 13:19 |
| jpena | we don't add apache as a dependency either | 13:19 |
| dirk | yeah, hardcoding apache is definitely "wrong" in the sense that any wsgi server will do | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok, will remove it | 13:20 |
| toabctl | we should just provide the wsgi app | 13:20 |
| toabctl | then the deployer can decide what to use | 13:20 |
| IgorYozhikov | got it, and the last question from my side - config folder | 13:21 |
| number80 | o/ | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | I created /etc/keystone/conf.d | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | hey number80 | 13:21 |
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| toabctl | config folder does not work with wsgi afaik until now | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | and put there all conf files | 13:21 |
| toabctl | hey number80 | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes, I asked our keystone developer | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | he told me that it is better to store config files in expected folder like /etc/keystone | 13:22 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, keystone.conf should still be at /etc/keystone/keystone.conf | 13:22 |
| IgorYozhikov | but I can also create a conf.d sub folder | 13:23 |
| toabctl | well - if it doesnt work we dont need it. it needs to be handled somehow by the wsgi app | 13:23 |
| toabctl | I try to find a solution for that. | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | anything else about keystone? just want to collect all suggestions and implement them :) | 13:24 |
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| IgorYozhikov | and finish with keystone to unblock the rest of dev core | 13:24 |
| dirk | not from me, will send a detailed review when I have time | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, according to your comments libxmlsec1-openssl1 - is required for unit tests | 13:26 |
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| IgorYozhikov | freezgun also required for unit tests | 13:26 |
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| IgorYozhikov | I have got it from test logs | 13:27 |
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| IgorYozhikov | I saw a couple of unmet dependencies in SUSE CI job | 13:28 |
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| IgorYozhikov | could some1 from SUSE side fix it? | 13:30 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, jpena do you have something to add according to current topic? | 13:31 |
| jpena | nope, nothing from my side | 13:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's move further? | 13:32 |
| number80 | *nods* | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) | 13:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:32 | |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, do you have a chance to look into tests for mistral? | 13:33 |
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| dirk | no, forgot about it | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/382196 - or I can add condition with_tests? | 13:34 |
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| dirk | #action dirk look into test issues with mistral | 13:34 |
| IgorYozhikov | o i c | 13:34 |
| IgorYozhikov | thanx | 13:34 |
| dirk | I'll chekc it out | 13:34 |
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| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397618/ | 13:34 |
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| IgorYozhikov | if every1 fine with ^^^ I can merge it:) | 13:35 |
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| IgorYozhikov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380834/ - last week we discussed that epoch folder should be back-ported into mitaka branch | 13:37 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: too late :) | 13:38 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: ah, thats a precondition? | 13:38 |
| dirk | I can do that | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | yey | 13:38 |
| dirk | or can you? I don' tknow what the proper mitaka level epochs are | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | I can | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | going to chery-pick from newton | 13:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | or just add a new commit in case of troubles | 13:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | #action IgorYozhikov back-port of epoch folder into mitaka branch | 13:39 |
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| IgorYozhikov | anything else in PRs we need to pay attention now ? | 13:40 |
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| IgorYozhikov | I see that we have a number of PRs from September | 13:42 |
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| IgorYozhikov | #topic - pymod2pkg reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/pymod2pkg+status:open ) | 13:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- pymod2pkg reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/pymod2pkg+status:open ) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:44 | |
| IgorYozhikov | there is 1 PR here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398912/2 | 13:44 |
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| IgorYozhikov | this change is related to SUSE | 13:45 |
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| kaslcrof | this patch related to naming problem with python-ldap in keystone | 13:47 |
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| IgorYozhikov | kaslcrof, think so | 13:47 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - renderspec reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec+status:open ) | 13:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- renderspec reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec+status:open ) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:48 | |
| IgorYozhikov | I guess that toabctl didn't have a chance to do something related to renderspec, right? | 13:49 |
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| IgorYozhikov | #topic open floor | 13:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:51 | |
| IgorYozhikov | we have 9 mins to discuss any other topics which are out of scope of agenda | 13:52 |
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| * dirk is good | 13:53 | |
| dirk | ah, well, maybe.. is there any update on the rdo gating? | 13:53 |
| dirk | 3rd party ci I mean | 13:53 |
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| number80 | I'm working on fixing networkx | 13:53 |
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| jpena | number80 was faster than me :) | 13:54 |
| number80 | well, I'm progressing on that side, I'll have Gdal 2.x built soon | 13:54 |
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| IgorYozhikov | ok, anything else? | 13:56 |
| toabctl | one thing | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | please proceed | 13:57 |
| toabctl | is anybody using apache for wsgi (keystone, adoh, ceilometer,...) | 13:57 |
| IgorYozhikov | me | 13:58 |
| IgorYozhikov | keystone, aodh | 13:58 |
| toabctl | eh, everybody, not anybody | 13:58 |
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| toabctl | number80, ^^ | 13:58 |
| jpena | yes, we are using it | 13:58 |
| toabctl | and are you still shipping systemd files? | 13:58 |
| IgorYozhikov | nope | 13:58 |
| IgorYozhikov | useless | 13:58 |
| jpena | not for keystone | 13:58 |
| toabctl | maybe we discussed that already and I missed it | 13:58 |
| jpena | but for ceilometer and aodh I think we still keep both options | 13:59 |
| toabctl | we could still ship a systemd file with uswgi | 13:59 |
| IgorYozhikov | no, we didn't | 13:59 |
| toabctl | jpena, but its for developers only | 13:59 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, afraid it should be in different packages | 13:59 |
| IgorYozhikov | or do not enable systemd unit after install | 13:59 |
| IgorYozhikov | by default | 14:00 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, sure | 14:00 |
| toabctl | I just want to know how others handle this wsgi switch | 14:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | we are on time | 14:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 14:00:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-11-17-13.02.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-11-17-13.02.txt | 14:00 |
| dirk | toabctl: well, ceilometer and aodh use the pbr wsgi wrapper, so systemd can be used.. (but its only for "dev purposes" | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2016/rpm_packaging.2016-11-17-13.02.log.html | 14:00 |
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| slashme | #startmeeting freezer | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 14:03:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slashme. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:03 |
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| slashme | Hello everyone | 14:03 |
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| zhusz | hello slashme | 14:03 |
| yangyapeng | hello slashme | 14:03 |
| yangyapeng | hello zhusz | 14:04 |
| dstepanenko | hello everyone | 14:04 |
| slashme | Meeting notes and agenda here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:04 |
| raliev | hi all | 14:05 |
| zhusz | hi all | 14:05 |
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| szaher | hi slashme | 14:06 |
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| raliev | slashme, regarding freezerclient, I've proposed adding it to global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398651/ | 14:07 |
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| slashme | That's perfect, thank you. I'm planning on doing a release of the python-freezerclient package tomorow. So let's review and merge what we want in today. | 14:11 |
| raliev | okay, let's to do it :) | 14:12 |
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| zhusz | yapeng, about backkup nova/cinder to ssh storage, are there any plan? | 14:14 |
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| dstepanenko | zhusz: I'm going to work on it | 14:15 |
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| zhusz | slashme, may we backup data from a city(DC1) to another(DC2) with freezer? | 14:15 |
| zhusz | yapeng, thanks. | 14:16 |
| dstepanenko | but before I'm going to finish https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379281/2, because it stucked a bit | 14:16 |
| raliev | slashme, I think after release we could switch to use python-freezerclient here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365358/ | 14:16 |
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| slashme | zhusz that should be possible | 14:16 |
| slashme | raliev: Yes, that's the goal | 14:16 |
| yangyapeng | zhusz: Recently I've been on a business trip in tianjin, i ready to do it in next week , | 14:16 |
| zhusz | no problem. | 14:17 |
| yangyapeng | zhusz: Ok, :) | 14:17 |
| raliev | slashme, I merged it against master, so actually it's ready, I think | 14:18 |
| zhusz | about migrate to mysql, what about? | 14:20 |
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| raliev | zhusz, daemontool works on migration to mysql | 14:20 |
| slashme | At the moment, we are discussing how to implement it. | 14:20 |
| slashme | The draft for the new data model is here : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_mysql_migration | 14:21 |
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| zhusz | Are there any rpm package of freezer available? Any plan? | 14:21 |
| slashme | Fausto, raliev and vnogin had a discussion last weel about that. | 14:21 |
| slashme | (Mysql migration) | 14:21 |
| zhusz | OK. I got it. | 14:21 |
| slashme | For now, we don't have deb or rpm packages | 14:22 |
| slashme | But if it is needed, this is something that shouldn't be too hard | 14:22 |
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| slashme | I think there is an OpenStack project/team that could help us with that I think | 14:23 |
| slashme | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rpm-packaging | 14:23 |
| zhusz | slashme, thanks. I'll check that. | 14:23 |
| raliev | It's just small recommendation that nice to have deb or rpm in openstack-requirements: By adding something to OpenStack global-requirements.txt we are basically demanding that Linux Distros package this for the next release of OpenStack. If they already have, great. If not, we should be cautious of adding it. | 14:24 |
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| zhusz | raliev, agree. | 14:24 |
| yangyapeng | agreeit raliev | 14:25 |
| raliev | so, firstly we should package freezerclient, I think | 14:25 |
| slashme | Agreed | 14:25 |
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| szaher | slashme https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399029/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398971/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398974/ Guys, plz let's merge this one. | 14:26 |
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| zhusz | Currently, there isn't any test case of integration testing for python-freezerclient. | 14:28 |
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| slashme | Looking at other project, the clients library don't have their own tempest / integration tests. | 14:33 |
| slashme | It seems like they are tested as part of the other components | 14:33 |
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| raliev | slashme, yep agree | 14:34 |
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| slashme | Any other topics you want to discuss today ? | 14:36 |
| raliev | guys, FYI we're planning to add rsync as storage in freezer. I had discussion about it with Fausto, he worked on this feature, so I'm focusing on it. slashme, I assume that there is need to provide BP or spec, right? | 14:36 |
| slashme | Yes. For this it think we need a spec | 14:37 |
| slashme | This should be considered as a new engine plugin | 14:37 |
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| slashme | Here is the code Fausto was working on some time ago. | 14:38 |
| slashme | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290461 | 14:38 |
| raliev | slashme, okay, I got it, thank you! Fausto already shared this review with me :) | 14:39 |
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| slashme | Now, the behaviour of engines is going to change again soon when we finish the refactoring of the agent. | 14:40 |
| slashme | So I think you should wait for that. | 14:40 |
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| raliev | in particular, you mean this activity: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386682/, right? | 14:41 |
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| slashme | Yes | 14:44 |
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| slashme | The global effort is described here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_new_archi | 14:44 |
| slashme | But the important part for rsync is the engine | 14:44 |
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| raliev | okay | 14:45 |
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| zhusz | Is there freezer-api spec available? e.g. http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/quick-start/index.html | 14:50 |
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| zhusz | http://docs.openstack.org/api/api-specs.html | 14:51 |
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| yangyapeng | freezer-api we should add it | 14:51 |
| raliev | agree | 14:51 |
| yangyapeng | action job session and so on | 14:52 |
| zhusz | yes. | 14:52 |
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| zhusz | But we don't full spec for freezer-api now. | 14:53 |
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| yangyapeng | refer to http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/baremetal/ | 14:54 |
| zhusz | Got it. thanks. | 14:55 |
| slashme | Agreed we should create the full specs | 14:56 |
| slashme | What we have for now is in the readme | 14:56 |
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| zhusz | Yes. | 14:57 |
| raliev | Yep | 14:58 |
| slashme | Okay. we are running out of time. Thanks everyone for joining :) | 14:59 |
| zhusz | There are some patches for python-freezerclient. Please review them also. Thanks. | 14:59 |
| slashme | And yes, please review the python-freezerclient changes | 14:59 |
| slashme | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| raliev | thanks everyone! | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 14:59:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-11-17-14.03.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-11-17-14.03.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2016/freezer.2016-11-17-14.03.log.html | 14:59 |
| yangyapeng | thanks all guys | 14:59 |
| zhusz | thanks all | 14:59 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 15:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| ravichandran | hi | 15:00 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| tpsilva | hello | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
| tommylikehu_ | hello | 15:01 |
| ravichandran | hi | 15:01 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | cknight markstur toabctl: courtesy reminder | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | ocata-1 milestone is today | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | for us that means low-priority spec freeze, and I need to tag the current builds | 15:03 |
| bswartz | more about specs in the next topic | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | #topic Spec review & prioritization | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ocata-spec-review-focus | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/manila-specs | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | so out of the 9 specs on the etherpad we got 2 merged so far | 15:05 |
| bswartz | plus some other low priority ones | 15:05 |
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| tommylikehu_ | yep | 15:05 |
| * bswartz notices a new spec from gouthamr in the last 5 minutes | 15:05 | |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yeah.. Insight was unforgiving, so i couldn't finish it; the code's mostly done - spec writing's not | 15:06 |
| bswartz | so first I'd like to say that I'm generally very happy with how the new specs process has been going | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: if we tag it low-priority, can i ask for a spec-deadline-extension on that one? | 15:07 |
| bswartz | we're finding issues in design now that in previous releases wouldn't have been caught until code review -- most likely a week or two before feature freeze | 15:07 |
| tommylikehu_ | I still need some time to get used to this process | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:07 |
| bswartz | all of the effort we've put into spec reviews seems like it's paying off | 15:07 |
| bswartz | and I think having a deadline is a big part of that | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | now on the negative side, we have all these unmerged specs | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | according the process we agreed to, we should punt all of these out to pike | 15:09 |
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| tommylikehu_ | I have a question will this one get merged? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390052/ it seems that most of us already agreed on it :) | 15:09 |
| bswartz | I'm not very inclined to do that, but I'm not sure what to do instead | 15:09 |
| ganso | bswartz: is the deadline until midnight today? | 15:09 |
| tpsilva | last minute reviews? | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | tommylikehu_: yeah don't worry that one looks fine | 15:09 |
| tommylikehu_ | thanks~ | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | well we don't have a hard cutoff -- this is the first time we've tried this and I didn't anticipate that we'd be at the deadline with 80% of our specs not merged | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | I don't want to encourage everyone to just madly +2A the remaining specs without giving them the attention they deserve | 15:11 |
| tbarron | bswartz: +1 | 15:11 |
| tommylikehu_ | agreed | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | and I don't want to keep specs reviews open forever given that we only have 10 weeks (minus holidays) from now to feature freeze to do all this work | 15:12 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:12 |
| bswartz | we could grant a blanket extension of the deadline, but next week is american thanksgiving and several people will probably not be around | 15:12 |
| * bswartz won't be around the later half of next week | 15:13 | |
| bswartz | so what do you guys think? | 15:13 |
| tpsilva | I suggest we take one last look on the specs and judge if they are ready to be coded... some of the details might change when looking at the code and some specs might need to be updated | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | would a few more days make a big difference? | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: what about next IRC meeting? | 15:13 |
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| tommylikehu_ | yes~ | 15:14 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I intend to cancel next week's IRC meeting | 15:14 |
| bswartz | too many US-based core team members | 15:14 |
| tommylikehu_ | I am ok with it | 15:14 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: how much time do we have for specs from now? | 15:14 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: that's up to us | 15:15 |
| bswartz | do you guys want to give the remaining specs until the end of today? until end of this week? sometime next week? | 15:15 |
| tpsilva | bswartz: what do you think of my proposal? | 15:16 |
| tommylikehu_ | 18 24:00 | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: today and tomorrow - definitely | 15:16 |
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| tpsilva | bswartz: some of the specs only needs some "fine tuning" | 15:16 |
| bswartz | I want to see more specs approved, but I feel like we need to have a cutoff | 15:16 |
| bswartz | inevitably something won't get merged and the author of that spec won't be happy | 15:16 |
| ganso | bswartz: if we could focus ALL effort right now from everyone to take a last look and decide if it is worth merging or not, and if not, if it can be fixed by the end of the day, it would be good | 15:16 |
| tbarron | bswartz: and if we want to continue working on specs that need more than just a couple tweaks, we need to declare them hi prio, right? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu_: you're suggesting friday midnight? | 15:17 |
| tommylikehu_ | yep | 15:17 |
| ganso | bswartz: it is already late for tommylikehu_ | 15:17 |
| tommylikehu_ | according to the ocata scheduler | 15:17 |
| bswartz | tbarron: that's an option but only if we really consider something high priority | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I'm hearing that people want at least the rest of today | 15:18 |
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| zengyingzhe | bswartz, why not until this weekend, then we'll have more time to go through these specs. | 15:18 |
| bswartz | anyone disagree with 2 more days? | 15:18 |
| tommylikehu_ | no | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | end of the week makes sense to me -- that way we avoid bumping into holidays next week | 15:19 |
| bswartz | but still have time today and tomorrow | 15:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: so friday midnight? | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: is goutham's spec exception? | 15:20 |
| bswartz | midnight UTC is the traditional time | 15:20 |
| tommylikehu_ | this sunday midnight | 15:20 |
| bswartz | that's 7PM for me | 15:21 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu_: I don't want to ask people to work over a weekend -- it's one thing if a submission deadline is set for sunday night/monday morning, but a merge deadline involves many people | 15:21 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: what's wrong with gouthamr's spec? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I want to go over specs one by one in a moment | 15:22 |
| tommylikehu_ | you are right | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | ganso: it's not complete | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: it has just been uploaded )) | 15:22 |
| ganso | the deadline is not right now, so, what's the problem? | 15:22 |
| tommylikehu_ | and I think the IPv6 deserves more attention from all of us , I am not urge to merge it, only a suggestion as tbarron mentioned in comment | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: other specs already had some review | 15:23 |
| bswartz | okay I'm not hearing lots of feedback but no one seems opposed to blanket extension of the deadline to friday midnight UTC | 15:23 |
| ganso | on a side note, I am unaware of anything preventing his spec from being designated hi-pri, as it was already called for last weekly meeting | 15:23 |
| zengyingzhe | tommylikehu_, don't worry, it's a high priority spec, we'll pay more attention to it. | 15:24 |
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| ganso | zengyingzhe: ipv6 is not hi-pri, it is review focus | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #agreed low priority spec merge deadline 18 Nov 23:59 UTC | 15:25 |
| tommylikehu_ | ganso: maybe it should be | 15:25 |
| bswartz | okay let's go over remaining specs | 15:25 |
| xyang2 | ganso: I thought all specs on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ocata-spec-review-focus are high priority | 15:25 |
| ganso | tommylikehu_: then we would need to vote for it | 15:25 |
| bswartz | xyang2: no | 15:25 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: then what are high priority specs? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | xyang2: high priority is here https://github.com/openstack/manila-specs/blob/master/priorities/ocata-priorities.rst | 15:25 |
| zengyingzhe | xyang2, yep, that's what I thought too. | 15:26 |
| * bswartz kicks himself | 15:26 | |
| bswartz | I forgot to add the race condition spec there | 15:26 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: just scenario tests? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | xyang2: and race conditions | 15:26 |
| tbarron | i think the diff between high prio and review focus was pretty clear: review focus was every core review; high prio is gets more time | 15:27 |
| tommylikehu_ | wow | 15:27 |
| xyang2 | just the two? | 15:27 |
| bswartz | xyang2: unless we agree to add more | 15:27 |
| bswartz | remember how short this cycle is | 15:27 |
| tommylikehu_ | what's the difference between review focus and hi-pr | 15:27 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu_: review focus means it needs +2 from everyone, not just 2 people | 15:27 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: well, I misunderstood the purpose of the etherpad then | 15:28 |
| tommylikehu_ | cool | 15:28 |
| ganso | xyang2: the information was in different places | 15:28 |
| bswartz | xyang2: sorry I tried to explain this difference when we created the etherpad | 15:28 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I believe I was in the meeting when you talked about it but I still missed it | 15:29 |
| bswartz | we need reviewers to focus on these specs because they're complex, but not necessarily essential features for ocata | 15:29 |
| bswartz | high priority specs are stuff we consider essential, and we give more time for those specs to be reviewed/merged | 15:29 |
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| tommylikehu_ | do we have deadline for these review focused specs? | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I wish we had introduced this new process on a normal 6-month release cycle | 15:30 |
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| ganso | tommylikehu_: if they are not hi-pri, it is tomorrow midnight | 15:30 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu_: no special deadline just the low/high priority deadlines | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | this clarifies some of my misconceptions as well... can i propose adding the access rules fixes to ocata as high priority? | 15:30 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: yes I'm trying to get there | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I want to go over the remaining specs | 15:31 |
| bswartz | but I also want to make sure we're all on the same page | 15:31 |
| bswartz | the new system is unfortunately complicated | 15:31 |
| bswartz | I laid all this out in the specs deadlines spec based on conversations and feedback from all the core team members | 15:32 |
| bswartz | people liked the separate low/high priority designations and the review focus designations | 15:32 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: how do we decide which spec will become high priority? | 15:33 |
| bswartz | xyang2: we discuss it in this meeting, then push a change to this page: https://github.com/openstack/manila-specs/blob/master/priorities/ocata-priorities.rst | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | we discussed the race conditions spec last week but I didn't push the change yet | 15:33 |
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| tommylikehu_ | ... | 15:34 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: seems pretty late now if today is the deadline for merging specs | 15:34 |
| tommylikehu_ | tomorrow midnight | 15:34 |
| ganso | xyang2: it has just become tomorrow midnight | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | xyang2: yes that's why I'm regretting how short ocata is and how this process is new | 15:35 |
| xyang2 | ganso: still pretty short on time | 15:35 |
| tommylikehu_ | but i think it's still too late | 15:35 |
| bswartz | but we have to make the best of this situation | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I sense that people are antsy to make some decisions so let's move on | 15:35 |
| bswartz | #topic high priority specs | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "high priority specs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:35 | |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I thought all specs on that etherpad have a later deadline | 15:35 |
| tommylikehu_ | +1 | 15:35 |
| bswartz | let me try to fix the etherpad in parallel with running this meeting | 15:36 |
| bswartz | are there any other specs to nominate for high priority? | 15:36 |
| ganso | bswartz: goutham's | 15:36 |
| tommylikehu_ | IPv6 | 15:36 |
| zengyingzhe | I'd like to vote IPv6 +1 | 15:37 |
| tbarron | i think IPv6 can use more spec attention and would provide nice feature gain in ocata without a lot of resource drain | 15:37 |
| bswartz | let's discuss gouthamr's first | 15:37 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/399049 | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | ^ Fix and improve Access Rules | 15:38 |
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| gouthamr | the access rules changes proposed (code only for now) is fixing race conditions. I think we're following a model that we discussed at the design summit for this change | 15:38 |
| bswartz | this one does feel like high priority to me | 15:38 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:38 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: I wish you'd written the spec before the code | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | +1 for making it high prio as it affects all manila users | 15:39 |
| ganso | +1 | 15:39 |
| tommylikehu_ | +1 | 15:39 |
| zengyingzhe | +1 | 15:39 |
| tpsilva | +1 | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: we were aiming at newton, but it was too risky to attempt to fix when we had features that needed to merge | 15:39 |
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| gouthamr | but we can take this opportunity to make other nice-to-have fixes as well and do it right, and hence the blueprint and the (yet unfinished) spec | 15:40 |
| bswartz | okay does this spec also need to be added to review focus etherpad? | 15:40 |
| tommylikehu_ | +1 | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:40 |
| ganso | +1 | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | +1 | 15:40 |
| tpsilva | +1 | 15:41 |
| zengyingzhe | +1 | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | does that give me time to finish it though? :) | 15:41 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes | 15:41 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: if specs on this etherpad are either high or low priority, we should have two sections if it is clear | 15:41 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I guess | 15:41 |
| ganso | xyang2: we now do | 15:41 |
| tpsilva | making it high priority already gives you more time | 15:41 |
| bswartz | xyang2: Did you see what I did on the etherpad? | 15:41 |
| xyang2 | I see it now | 15:41 |
| * gouthamr is taking a 16 hour flight tomorrow and skipping more time zones | 15:41 | |
| * markstur shows up late | 15:42 | |
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| markstur | hi. sorry late | 15:42 |
| tommylikehu_ | markstur you are late | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I didn't do this before because this etherpad is not authoritative -- people can just edit them and add their own spec to the wrong section | 15:42 |
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| * bswartz worries too much about etherpad vandals perhaps | 15:42 | |
| xyang2 | bswartz: most of time when others change it they will use a different color, so give you a clue it is changed | 15:43 |
| tommylikehu_ | yep | 15:43 |
| bswartz | okay moving on to IPv6 | 15:43 |
| tommylikehu_ | +1 | 15:43 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/362786 | 15:43 |
| bswartz | ^ enable IPv6 in manila | 15:43 |
| zengyingzhe | it's a very useful feature, +1 | 15:44 |
| bswartz | we covered this one 2 weeks ago and agreed it was low priority | 15:44 |
| bswartz | thanks to the reviews it's gotten, we've seen a lot of positive changes | 15:44 |
| bswartz | however high priority implies that this features really needs to be in ocata | 15:44 |
| markstur | I had some feedback and -1 that I thought I posted last night. It is stuff that could be resolved incode review. I think. | 15:45 |
| bswartz | it sounds like the huawei guys are committed to getting the code for this done in ocata | 15:45 |
| tommylikehu_ | sure | 15:45 |
| ganso | I would have preferred if this had wide driver adoption in the release it is merged | 15:46 |
| tbarron | my argument for making it high prio is that they will get it done, but I'd like the review not to get cut off in a rush. | 15:46 |
| ganso | but in ocata it feels quite short to merge a feature that affects so many layers and also get driver support | 15:46 |
| bswartz | is zhongjun here? | 15:46 |
| tommylikehu_ | not this time | 15:47 |
| bswartz | she's the owner of this and has pushed most of the commits here | 15:47 |
| ganso | bswartz: tommylikehu_ is working on zhongjun's behalf at this time it seems | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I guess Iim wondering if we can't just get thins one merged this week and move on | 15:47 |
| tommylikehu_ | yeah~ | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | ganso: it's a capability.. allowing the core code to merge now few drivers supporting it is good for lowering the risks as well.. | 15:47 |
| tommylikehu_ | we can do the driver's part in Pike | 15:47 |
| bswartz | yeah there's no need to actually implement v6 support in drivers if we get the capability stuff right | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | ^ that's what i meant to say | 15:48 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: yes, it is not problem, although I would have preferred the other way | 15:48 |
| bswartz | when we discussed this in BCN we were leaning towards requiring blanket support across all drivers | 15:48 |
| tbarron | i just want some more eyes on the capability stuff as that was just added recently | 15:48 |
| markstur | If the drivers won't implement until Pike then we don't need to merge this in O. Just have it ready for drivers to try. | 15:48 |
| bswartz | but during review we realized that no matter what driver authors do, deployers may still fail to configure IPv6 | 15:49 |
| bswartz | therefore a capability system is required and that frees us up from forcing drivers to implement anything other than the capability reporting | 15:49 |
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| tommylikehu_ | We should keep working on this | 15:50 |
| bswartz | I guess I'm in favor of high priority for this one | 15:50 |
| tbarron | or their network infra may not support it so that exports would not work | 15:50 |
| bswartz | I'd like to see the capabilities land in ocata | 15:50 |
| tommylikehu_ | +1 | 15:50 |
| bswartz | lack of IPv6 support in manila is frankly an embarrassment | 15:50 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:51 |
| bswartz | so let's no drag our feet | 15:51 |
| bswartz | any other opinions before we move on? | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | we'd be closer to the TC goal that you were mentioning if we can implement and test against atleast one of our drivers in ocata | 15:52 |
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| ganso | I guess it should include support for at least one first party driver | 15:52 |
| ganso | to test the feature, along with the tempest tests | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: usign scenario tests | 15:53 |
| bswartz | ganso: +1 | 15:53 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:53 |
| bswartz | #topic share groups spec | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315730/ | 15:53 |
| bswartz | this is low priority, review focus | 15:53 |
| bswartz | seems to be getting positive reviews | 15:53 |
| tommylikehu_ | Is this similar to cinder's generic group | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | I mainly support this effort because it removes the unsupported cgroups APIs | 15:54 |
| tommylikehu_ | ok | 15:54 |
| bswartz | cknight's work on this spec has been great, and vponomaryov is now leading the effort to finish it off | 15:54 |
| bswartz | please give this one a review | 15:54 |
| bswartz | #topic migration improvements and jobs tables | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "migration improvements and jobs tables (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:55 | |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/392291 | 15:55 |
| ganso | bswartz: they are 2 separate specs | 15:55 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/392262 | 15:55 |
| bswartz | I know | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | times is short so I'm covering them together | 15:55 |
| ganso | bswartz: ok | 15:55 |
| bswartz | ganso: is there one you'd like to proritize over the other? | 15:55 |
| zengyingzhe | bswartz, OK, will review them. | 15:55 |
| ganso | so, seems there is more to investigate in the data jobs table, I am unfamiliar with the taskflow library suggested to be used | 15:56 |
| bswartz | -1 for taskflow | 15:56 |
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| ganso | bswartz: yes, the share migration ocata improvements would be higher priority for me | 15:56 |
| markstur | I've used taskflow but some folks despise it | 15:56 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: but not you? | 15:56 |
| bswartz | ganso: would you like to withdraw the jobs table spec for ocata so we can focus on other things? | 15:56 |
| ganso | bswartz: as it will be small amount of code and hopefully the last changes to the share migration API | 15:57 |
| bswartz | ganso: or should we keep pushing for it? | 15:57 |
| markstur | vponomaryov: It worked so I don't "despise it" | 15:57 |
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| ganso | bswartz: tbarron and toabctl have a lot of concerns about it | 15:57 |
| bswartz | taskflow is used in cinder and the resulting code is completely incomprehensible | 15:57 |
| tbarron | don't rathole on taskflow, there's just a lot more to discuss | 15:57 |
| ganso | bswartz: I can work on it in Pike no problem | 15:58 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:58 |
| ganso | bswartz: it will make more sense if the feature still has research to do | 15:58 |
| bswartz | #topic mountable-snapshots | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/321213 | 15:58 |
| bswartz | this is the last review focus spec | 15:58 |
| bswartz | tpsilva: did I miss something about extra-specs and capabilities? | 15:58 |
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| ganso | bswartz: that one looks ok by me, I really don't get the extra-specs question you asked | 15:59 |
| tommylikehu_ | merged | 15:59 |
| bswartz | I thought we agreed that this was a feature drivers needed to support | 15:59 |
| tpsilva | looks like this one is on its final discussions... markstur pointed some issues and I just fixed | 15:59 |
| bswartz | it's optional | 15:59 |
| tpsilva | bswartz: I didn't quite get your question on the spec | 15:59 |
| ganso | bswartz: it is exactly the same as revert-to-snapshot extra-spec wise, it has its own extra-spec | 15:59 |
| bswartz | therefore there has to be a capability so end users know if the share type can support it | 15:59 |
| ganso | bswartz: and it requires snapshot_support to be un-overloaded, just like revert-to-snapshot | 15:59 |
| bswartz | ganso: I just didn't see that written in the spec | 15:59 |
| ganso | bswartz: it is there AFAIK | 15:59 |
| tpsilva | it's there | 16:00 |
| bswartz | okay let's follow up on that one in the channel | 16:00 |
| bswartz | that's all we have time for today | 16:00 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| tbarron | I thought it was there but maybe I was reading between the lines. Let's make it very bold and explicit. | 16:00 |
| bswartz | next week IRC meeting is canceled due to thanksgiving | 16:00 |
| * tbarron suggests a new review-focus deadline on high prio specs, perhaps December 1. | 16:00 | |
| tbarron | can discuss in channel | 16:00 |
| ganso | tbarron: isn't it ocata-2 | 16:00 |
| tbarron | ganso: review focus, not cutoff | 16:01 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 16:01:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-11-17-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2016/manila.2016-11-17-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| ashtokolov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 16:11:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ashtokolov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:11 |
| ashtokolov | dmitryme: Hi | 16:12 |
| dmitryme | ashtokolov: hello! | 16:12 |
| ashtokolov | #topic "Stuck reviews for RabbitMQ OCF script for 9.2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384412/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378600/ (dmitryme)" | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""Stuck reviews for RabbitMQ OCF script for 9.2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384412/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378600/ (dmitryme)" (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:12 | |
| dmitryme | yep, basically I wanted to ask for more review | 16:12 |
| dmitryme | these are changes to RabbitMQ OCF script | 16:13 |
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| aglarendil | \o/ | 16:13 |
| dmitryme | previously Alex Schultz and Bogdan did the review. Now since Alex left, I need somebody else to merge the changes ;-) | 16:13 |
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| kozhukalov | hi | 16:14 |
| dmitryme | aglarendil: maybe you? :-) | 16:14 |
| ashtokolov | aglarendil: adidenko sbog could you please help with reviews for OCF scripts? | 16:14 |
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| aglarendil | I will take a look | 16:16 |
| dmitryme | great, thanks Vova | 16:16 |
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| ashtokolov | any questions around reviews? | 16:19 |
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| ashtokolov | looks like there is no more questions | 16:32 |
| ashtokolov | Thanks you so much for your contribution | 16:33 |
| ashtokolov | @aglarendil are you going to share an update around Fuel-TripleO? | 16:33 |
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| ashtokolov | ok, seems no updates from aglarendil | 16:47 |
| ashtokolov | :) | 16:47 |
| ashtokolov | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 17:02:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:02 |
| lhinds | o/ | 17:02 |
| capnoday | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | lol sorry | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | looool | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | I'm broken | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | I'm stupid and tmcpeak is an enabler | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | #agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:03 |
| vds | o/ | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda :) | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | man. | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | I'm surprised the meeting even worked over there | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | vds hi! congrats on your first OSSN! | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | thank you sigmavirus | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:03 |
| vds | hyakuhei, thx! | 17:03 |
| sigmavirus | You're welcome :) | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak can you roll the first few topics while I clear something up? | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | yep | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Syntribos | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | unrahul: | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | saw your release announcement on ML | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | :) | 17:05 |
| unrahul | hey tmcpeak | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | congrats! | 17:05 |
| unrahul | yup.. thanks ! :) | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:05 |
| unrahul | finally we released a version through openstack CI.. | 17:06 |
| capnoday | awesome | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus | Good job unrahul! | 17:06 |
| lhinds | wd unrahul | 17:06 |
| unrahul | We are still continuing our discussions/design sessions on what all things we should add to the tool.. | 17:06 |
| unrahul | thank you hyakuhei capnoday sigmavirus and lhinds :) | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Anything need reviewing atm unrahul ? | 17:07 |
| unrahul | we have added a few tests like json depth limit and user defined tests | 17:07 |
| unrahul | nop hyakuhei .. nothing for now.. | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent :P | 17:07 |
| unrahul | if anyone can suggest any tests to be added to the tool, that would be great.. | 17:07 |
| unrahul | other than than.. we dont have much for this week.. | 17:07 |
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| tmcpeak | unrahul: you guys have that recorded demo Rob shared in his talk anywhere? | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | might be good to write a shareable blog post with that linked to demo to people that are interested | 17:08 |
| unrahul | we will do that.. tmcpeak .. as we are redesigning the template schema, thought we would come up with a blog after that is finalized and version is released in few weeks.. what do u think ? | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | either way :) | 17:09 |
| unrahul | neat.. | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | just nice to get something easily consumable to share but no rush | 17:09 |
| unrahul | so thats it guys from us .. yup tmcpeak .. :) | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic OSSN | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | lhinds: o/ | 17:10 |
| lhinds | not much new, vds did a great job, but we did not publish as it turns out even though it was marked as OSSN, there was no remediation. | 17:11 |
| lhinds | it was a pure code patch | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | ahh ok | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | well good practice :) | 17:11 |
| lhinds | oh well, it got vds up to speed though, so we have another valued author on the team | 17:11 |
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| vds | :) | 17:11 |
| lhinds | other then that, I need to make some gentle prods of tmcpeak and hyakuhei over your embargoed notes. | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Is my one good now mate? | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | :) I'll put it on my calendar for tomorrow | 17:12 |
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| lhinds | I think so, check the latest, I made a comment on one, but they are super close hyakuhei | 17:12 |
| lhinds | I also have not had a chance to work on the notes API again yet | 17:13 |
| lhinds | will hopefully have some time freed up over xmas to get it in shape. | 17:13 |
| lhinds | that's it for da notes | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool. | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds are we happy with the google docs for embargos? | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | and just doing the clunky LP pastes for now? | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | yeah that seems to be working well | 17:14 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei: I think so yes | 17:14 |
| lhinds | that way we can grammar nits, and then share with cores on LP | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | cool | 17:14 |
| lhinds | I always need lots of help with grammar :P | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | anything else on notes? | 17:15 |
| lhinds | nop, thats it | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | sweet' | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Blog | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | looks like we could use one for security review | 17:16 |
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| lhinds | I also need my OSSN post merged | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | and hyakuhei has apparently written himself a note about LF Badge | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds I'll look at that now | 17:16 |
| lhinds | thanks hyakuhei | 17:16 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei: no pressure though, as its a time agnostic post. | 17:17 |
| lhinds | did they get any nice stage pics of you guys? | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | shudder. I hope not | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | I don't know about nice but there were pics :P | 17:18 |
| gmurphy | i tried to get some on my phone but was sitting in the back row. so everybody looks like ants. | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | hah | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | allright, move on? | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Security Review | 17:20 |
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| capnoday | sup tmcpeak | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | capnoday: | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | forgot you've got a shiny new name | 17:20 |
| capnoday | yeh bro | 17:20 |
| capnoday | i got sick of you trolling me with underscores | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | :P | 17:21 |
| * gmurphy goes to check if capnoday is registered... | 17:21 | |
| tmcpeak | what's new with security review 0day? | 17:21 |
| capnoday | nothing new from me, waiting on an update about what happened at the summit | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | oh, right | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | well let's do that now | 17:22 |
| * tmcpeak trying to remember 3 weeks ago | 17:22 | |
| michaelxin | what happened at the summit? | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | there seemed to be lots of general interest | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | however I wasn't around Friday | 17:22 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: did the security review session happen Friday? | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | if so, how was it? | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | Fridays are always quiet | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | However we did have a design session mid week IIRC | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | That went well, the fundamental feedback was the same as it always is | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | "make it easier, make it faster" | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | where did we get with Kolla? | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | think we were part way through... | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | so I guess, realistically - what's our goal | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | capnoday was talking to their new PTL? | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | So | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | I think everybody would agree that this would be a nice thing to have, but 1) do we have the time and resources to do it, 2) will project teams commit the time and resources to do it with us | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | TBH I think what happened is that this fell by the wayside while capnoday transitioned company | 17:25 |
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| hyakuhei | I imagine we'll be able to speed things up again now | 17:25 |
| capnoday | yeah ive been AFK for about 4 weeks | 17:26 |
| michaelxin | +1 | 17:26 |
| capnoday | that is resaonable feedback, given that the process is still evolving | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | 1) we can but we might have to lower the bar. 2) TBD but it should be a requirement for VMT managed and eventually a project maturity tag | 17:26 |
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| capnoday | seems reasonable | 17:27 |
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| capnoday | lets continue as we are for the moment, i will write up the process and push it up for review | 17:28 |
| vds | Till I find a new job, I have plenty of time to spare, if you tell how to start I'll be happy to jump in | 17:28 |
| capnoday | vds excellent, thanks | 17:28 |
| capnoday | the only issue is that most of it is in mine and hyakuhei 's heads atm | 17:28 |
| vds | I see | 17:28 |
| capnoday | but i will reach out to you when we have something and ask you for a look, it would be very handy to have someone fresh take a look | 17:28 |
| vds | cool, thx! | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | I'm not sure that's true capnoday the stuff you put in review is good | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | and I wrote bloggy things | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | but we do need to pin down the process | 17:29 |
| capnoday | true | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | we should get back with Kolla | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Happy to | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | would be nice to have another project more or less completed | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | *but* | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Kolla is a _terrible_ exemplar | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Virtually unique among OpenStack projects | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, it's not typical but shows the process can work | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | for non-standard projects | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | That's dumb | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Well not dumb | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | It's just not the time to prove that | 17:30 |
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| tmcpeak | ok, fair enough | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | but we owe them a completed review and will deliver | 17:31 |
| tbarron | manila is interested in starting the process, as we mentioned a few weeks ago here and at the summit session, but we're pretty complex. | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | When we've got a process that works well for 80% of OpenStack we can then start looking at the outliers | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | tbarron complexity is ok | 17:31 |
| tbarron | so we're studying the barbican stuff ... | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | The issue with Kolla is it's not a web service, not an api, not python etc | 17:31 |
| * tbarron nods | 17:31 | |
| tbarron | so focus on kolla-kubernetes :) | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | haha | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | tbarron what did you think from looking at the Barbican stuff? | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | We found some interesting problems there | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | but we do know the Barbican project | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | also had the benefit of being stuck in a room together all day | 17:33 |
| tbarron | hyakuhei: i think i need to swap memory back in post-summit, sorry have been scrambling :) | 17:33 |
| tbarron | hyakuhei: but mostly I need to find the right level of abstraction for manila | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | realistically Hangouts isn't quite as good | 17:33 |
| tbarron | hyakuhei: with 20+drivers, lots of networking protocols, etc. | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | it's tenable but not as good | 17:34 |
| dave-mccowan | sahara would be a good next-project. it's architecture is very similar to barbican and we should have elmiko's support. | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | dave-mccowan: +1 | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | dave-mccowan +1 | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | capnoday thoughts? | 17:34 |
| capnoday | sahara would be a good idea | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | allright | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | should we table it this week while capnoday warms up to his new gig? | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | I think so, I don't have cycles for it this week | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Sec Guide | 17:37 |
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| tmcpeak | do we have anybody from Sec Guide? | 17:38 |
| capnoday | tmcpeak +! | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | So my understanding was that Sicarie wanted to kee pdoing sec guide things | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | I thought this fell off our recurring | 17:38 |
| lhinds | anyone who knows cinder enc well: please take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396795/ | 17:38 |
| capnoday | i just pinged sicarie | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks lhinds | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | meanwhile.. | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | #topic MD5 | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | lhinds: this was your baby you want to kick it off? | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds ^^ | 17:41 |
| lhinds | sure | 17:41 |
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| lhinds | so there are quite a number of instances of hashlib.md5 being used in various project, while some of these might be negligible, MD5 is seen as weak now, and gets blocked by the Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS) and others. | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | what's FIPS say about using it for non-crypto uses? | 17:42 |
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| lhinds | tmcpeak it just completely blacklists it. | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | ick | 17:43 |
| lhinds | the idea is if your using it for check'suming, a collision attack could still happen | 17:43 |
| lhinds | so I somehow swap out an object which has the same hash, and so is seen as trusted | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | so, I guess the example I have in my head is PyPI | 17:44 |
| lhinds | is PyPI using MD5? | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | So far as I can tell, it's not an Approved Algorithm anymore for anything | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | PyPI has an MD5 of each package, just to validate the package was transferred correctly, even over TLS | 17:44 |
| capnoday | theres a fairly small set of cases where it wold be ok to use MD5, but the issue there is that every time you would need hyakuhei standing up and explaining at length to the auditors about why md5 is ok in this exact situation | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | That's basically my job. | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | but in addition to that there is real signing for security, which obviously uses good algos | 17:45 |
| lhinds | It looks like PyPI is GPG signed | 17:45 |
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| hyakuhei | #link http://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/archive/2014/03/18/working-with-fips-140-crypto-standards.aspx | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | it's both | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | relevant | 17:45 |
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| tmcpeak | always MD5 signed and optoinally GPG signed | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | point is MD5 is not designed to provide any security | 17:46 |
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| lhinds | hmm | 17:46 |
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| capnoday | so that is a good example of one of thoses cases | 17:46 |
| lhinds | so they are using integrity hashing for security though right? | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | no, just to prevent file corruption as I understand it | 17:47 |
| lhinds | its insuring the object has not been swapped out (agree its a bad way of doing it btw) | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | They use it as a key name for an object | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: I completely agree with you btw, get rid of MD5. I'm just saying we're going to get huge pushback | 17:47 |
| lhinds | we have TCP for that :P | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | In swift at least | 17:47 |
| lhinds | understood tmcpeak | 17:47 |
| lhinds | so I have a suggesion.. | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | also waht about unit tests | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | does FIPS distinguish between production code and not? | 17:48 |
| * notmyname can talk about swift's use of md5, if you're interested | 17:48 | |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak Nope | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | notmyname: please do | 17:48 |
| lhinds | unit tests don't matter as you won't be runnning those on a live box I guess? | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | Kernel module | 17:48 |
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| tmcpeak | notmyname: also, do you think Swift, for example would be receptive to swapping out all MD5? | 17:49 |
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| notmyname | swift uses md5 for 2 things. one is to detect bit flips either in transfer of data from one server to another or from media degredation | 17:49 |
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| lhinds | which are valid cases.. | 17:50 |
| lhinds | so we need hyakuhei to go and speak with FIPS :P | 17:50 |
| notmyname | the other place we use md5 is for splaying data throughout the cluster: we md5(prefix + name of thing + suffix), take some prefix bits, and use that for index into a table to find the right drives to put stuff on | 17:50 |
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| notmyname | tmcpeak: in theory no, we wouldn't be opposed, but it would be a lot of work, have massive migration concerns, and we'd swap it for faster stuff, not "more secure" stuff | 17:51 |
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| capnoday | lhinds the problem is that when swift is deployed, the compliance auditors will have a sheet with a series of yes/no checkboxs, and one of them will be 'does it use banned crypt' | 17:51 |
| notmyname | capnoday: yep. that's definitely an issue. we arent' using md5 for any cryptography | 17:52 |
| lhinds | capnoday, yep that's the concern | 17:52 |
| lhinds | capnoday, and they can block production greenlights | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | +1 it's not that it's really a security issue | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | it's that it will be a security blocker | 17:52 |
| capnoday | im not saying that swift should do it, but it when arguing with checkbox monkeys, its best to pick your battles on stuff you really care about (like deploying AV to your cloud nodes) | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | which is dumb | 17:52 |
| notmyname | IOW, does `grep -ri 'md5' path/to/source/dir` return anything? | 17:53 |
| lhinds | so it seems, yes its viable / not *always* SEC related, but at the end of the day, it would be a blocker when it comes to tickboxes. | 17:54 |
| vds | I'm afraid that soon EU companies will have the same issue with GDPR, it's not like you can discuss with this people, they only have a check list. | 17:54 |
| notmyname | from my inexpert perspective, we'd likely consider stuff like blake2* if we switched | 17:54 |
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| tmcpeak | the scale of removing MD5 from OpenStack is huge but doesn't mean we shouldn't try | 17:55 |
| lhinds | I think the code swap might not be too challenging, its just all the existing hashes stored in meta data used by different projs | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | Migration is the problem | 17:55 |
| tmcpeak | yeah | 17:55 |
| lhinds | tmcpeak: agree | 17:55 |
| hyakuhei | I imagine for a fresh deployment it's got to be pretty trivial | 17:56 |
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| lhinds | hyakuhei yup | 17:56 |
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| lhinds | ok, well I can nominate myself for doing a first pass and getting launchpads up. | 17:56 |
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| notmyname | hyakuhei: for swift, it's no impact to the deployer. it's the code maintenance and the fact we actually cannot remove md5 totally. we must have that or we break every single existing cluster | 17:56 |
| tmcpeak | lhinds: awesome, thank you | 17:57 |
| lhinds | I will put them as a low (if they are non Security in use) so they don't get hit out as 'won't fix' | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | Figured as much notmyname - it's going to have to happen sometime I imagine. | 17:57 |
| lhinds | I will put them in an etherpad so others can chip in. | 17:57 |
| notmyname | hyakuhei: of course, the same thing's been said for 5+ years now ;-) | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:58 |
| tmcpeak | allright guys, 2 mins | 17:58 |
| hyakuhei | well that's pretty much time ppl | 17:58 |
| tmcpeak | anything else? | 17:58 |
| lhinds | that's it from me | 17:58 |
| tmcpeak | #topic AOB | 17:58 |
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| tmcpeak | last call | 17:58 |
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| tmcpeak | allright | 17:59 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 17:59:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-11-17-17.02.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-11-17-17.02.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2016/security.2016-11-17-17.02.log.html | 17:59 |
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| lhinds | thanks all | 17:59 |
| hyakuhei | Cheers all! | 17:59 |
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| vds | thank you! | 18:00 |
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| SpamapS | #startmeeting arch_wg | 19:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 19:31:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 19:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'arch_wg' | 19:32 |
| ttx | o/ | 19:32 |
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| SpamapS | Pings for nikhil, harlowja, dstanek, kragniz, auggy, rockyg, rocky_g, kgiusti | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | Sorry we're late | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | I had a meatspace conflict | 19:32 |
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| SpamapS | unexpectedly | 19:32 |
| harlowja | damn people | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Arch-WG#Agenda | 19:32 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | #topic previous meeting action items | 19:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 19:33 | |
| SpamapS | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2016/ | 19:33 |
| SpamapS | * SpamapS submit base services etherpad contents to arch-wg repo upon its creation. | 19:33 |
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| SpamapS | DinaBelova was kind enough to do that for us, and it has landed! | 19:33 |
| SpamapS | * SpamapS email openstack-dev architecture tag when the repo is available for submissions | 19:33 |
| SpamapS | that's done | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | #link https://git.openstack.org/openstack/arch-wg | 19:34 |
| ttx | cool, what's the next step ? | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | oh wait | 19:34 |
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| SpamapS | Sorry, that first action item I got mixed up | 19:34 |
| ttx | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/arch-wg | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | that is not submitted just yet | 19:35 |
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| SpamapS | so what's in the repo now is just scaffolding | 19:35 |
| ttx | ah yes | 19:35 |
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| SpamapS | DinaBelova finished "Submit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/arch-wg-draft as text for arch-wg repo" for us | 19:35 |
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| ttx | you will submit the first thing ? Add me to the review | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | I will still, so that needs to carry | 19:35 |
| ttx | happy to review it if you add me t oit | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | #action SpamapS submit base services etherpad contents to arch-wg repo upon its creation. | 19:35 |
| DinaBelova | yay :) | 19:36 |
| DinaBelova | sorry for being late | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | Yeah I had meetings and travel again last week so I let it slide unfortunately. | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | DinaBelova: 'sok, we were al 30min late. :) | 19:36 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | Ok, moving on because we need to wrap up a little earlier | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | #action SpamapS add ttx to review for base services | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | #topic Proposal Process Review | 19:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Proposal Process Review (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 19:36 | |
| SpamapS | So... we have a repo | 19:37 |
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| SpamapS | #link https://review.openstack.org/399201 | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | There, I just submitted a skeleton structure for process | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | Basically.. we should just accept proposals via the normal code review process in 'proposals'. They should be landed when they're detailed enough to begin discovery. Any findings we make, we can publish in 'reports'. | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | Specs should be done in the usual places. | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | (openstack-specs, oslo-specs, *project*-specs ...) | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | Anybody have thoughts on that? | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | #action SpamapS email proposed arch-wg repo process to openstack-dev | 19:40 |
| ttx | souds good | 19:41 |
| ttx | +n | 19:41 |
| SpamapS | #topic Open Discussion | 19:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 19:42 | |
| SpamapS | skipping proposal discussion as I want that to happen via the new process. | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | Anybody have other things to bring up? | 19:42 |
| ttx | Would like to suggest moving to one hour later, can't make it at :00 at this hour | 19:42 |
| ttx | Happy to push a review for that for team members to +1 or -1 | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | I was wondering about earlier. | 19:42 |
| ttx | earlier is even trickier for me -- can't make it 1800-2000 | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | Ah yeah ok | 19:43 |
| ttx | wednesday 1600 is doable | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | My thinking was to make it easier for European folks. | 19:43 |
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| SpamapS | DefCore is a group of people who overlap a lot with this group | 19:44 |
| ttx | 18-20utc conflicts with dinner/kid tie | 19:44 |
| SpamapS | and that's their meeting slot | 19:44 |
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| SpamapS | ttx: ok, I'm up for a move to one hour later | 19:44 |
| SpamapS | ttx: could you propose it to the calendar repo and ping the list so we can review? | 19:44 |
| ttx | yes on it | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | Cool | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | #action ttx move meeting time to UTC2000 | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | With that? I'd like to wrap up. Anyone else have something to bring up? | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | Sorry again for the late start and abbreviated meeting. Also hopefully now that we have a repo, we can seed it with some things and folks will have a better understanding how they can participate. | 19:46 |
| ttx | review up @ | 19:46 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/399206 | 19:46 |
| ttx | dammit won't snatch 400000 | 19:46 |
| SpamapS | #link https://review.openstack.org/399206 | 19:46 |
| ttx | will happen while I sleep | 19:46 |
| SpamapS | thanks! | 19:47 |
| SpamapS | With that, we'll wrap | 19:47 |
| SpamapS | Thanks! | 19:47 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 19:47:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2016/arch_wg.2016-11-17-19.31.html | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2016/arch_wg.2016-11-17-19.31.txt | 19:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2016/arch_wg.2016-11-17-19.31.log.html | 19:47 |
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| loquacities | ok, docs meeting! | 20:59 |
| loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 21:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| loquacities | who do we have here? | 21:00 |
| cathrichardson | o/ | 21:00 |
| iphutch | Good Morning | 21:00 |
| loquacities | heya cathrichardson :) | 21:00 |
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| loquacities | hi iphutch | 21:00 |
| rluethi | hi there | 21:00 |
| alex_bash | o/ | 21:00 |
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| loquacities | ooh, everyone is here! | 21:00 |
| loquacities | hi rluethi and alex_bash | 21:00 |
| lutz_ | Hi Lana this is Lutz | 21:00 |
| loquacities | hi lutz_ | 21:00 |
| bmoss | hey hey | 21:00 |
| loquacities | hi bmoss | 21:00 |
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| loquacities | for the record ... | 21:01 |
| loquacities | agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting | 21:01 |
| loquacities | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:01 | |
| loquacities | since this is our first ocata meeting, i think we can safely assume there are none ;) | 21:01 |
| loquacities | so moving on ... | 21:02 |
| loquacities | #topic Specs in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:02 | |
| loquacities | we have five here | 21:02 |
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| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391548/ | 21:02 |
| loquacities | training-labs: Rewrite training-labs in python | 21:02 |
| loquacities | doesn't look like pranav is here, does anyone else have on opinion on this? | 21:03 |
| loquacities | rluethi ^^ ? | 21:03 |
| rluethi | sorry. is that the python port review? | 21:03 |
| loquacities | yep | 21:03 |
| JRobinson__ | "Moving to a modern programming language addresses | 21:03 |
| JRobinson__ | many inherent limitations of Bash for the given use-cases" | 21:03 |
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| JRobinson__ | that's a good argument. | 21:03 |
| loquacities | ok, let's move on | 21:04 |
| rluethi | Pranav and I have some things to clarify there. It will hopefully happen before the end of the weekend. | 21:04 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391786/ Proposed use case form | 21:04 |
| loquacities | rluethi: ok, cool | 21:04 |
| loquacities | so this one was discussed at summit | 21:05 |
| loquacities | any ops people around can comment? | 21:05 |
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| loquacities | it's about using a web form to collect use case info from ops | 21:05 |
| loquacities | just a way of collecting source data for the ops guide, basically | 21:05 |
| darrenc | Shaun is going to post his thoughts on the docs ML | 21:05 |
| loquacities | and reducing the amount of overhead for ops to get that to us | 21:06 |
| loquacities | darrenc: ok, easy, thanks :) | 21:06 |
| loquacities | next up | 21:06 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392372/ [arch-design] Revise the Architecture Design Guide | 21:06 |
| lutz_ | +1 anything that makes it easier for ops to report issues in certain use cases should be worthwhile | 21:06 |
| loquacities | lutz_: i agree! | 21:06 |
| loquacities | darrenc: maybe you can talk to the arch guide spec? | 21:07 |
| darrenc | yep, so this is basically the same spec last cycle | 21:07 |
| darrenc | The only change is refining the use cases chapter | 21:07 |
| loquacities | right | 21:08 |
| loquacities | looks like it's about ready to be approved? | 21:08 |
| darrenc | so I think we can push this one through | 21:08 |
| darrenc | yep | 21:08 |
| loquacities | ok, i'll put my +2 on, then we just need shilla to merge it | 21:08 |
| darrenc | thanks :) | 21:08 |
| loquacities | done | 21:08 |
| loquacities | next up | 21:08 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394261/ [ops-guide] Add project upgrade notes | 21:09 |
| loquacities | darrenc: i believe that's you again :P | 21:09 |
| darrenc | yep :) | 21:09 |
| darrenc | so the proposal is to migrate project upgrade notes to the Ops Guide | 21:09 |
| darrenc | but I think there is some resistance from projects | 21:10 |
| loquacities | yeah, seems that way | 21:10 |
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| loquacities | what do you need? | 21:10 |
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| darrenc | well, just finding a happy medium for ops and projects | 21:10 |
| loquacities | right, ok | 21:11 |
| loquacities | maybe bring it up on the ops ML? | 21:11 |
| loquacities | cc the docs ML? | 21:11 |
| darrenc | I think linking to the upgrade content might suffice | 21:11 |
| darrenc | yep, I'll do that | 21:11 |
| loquacities | ok | 21:11 |
| loquacities | cool | 21:11 |
| loquacities | and lucky last: | 21:11 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390324/ Changed the home-page link for docs-specs | 21:11 |
| loquacities | oh, that's not a spec | 21:12 |
| loquacities | my bad | 21:12 |
| JRobinson__ | Looks like devising a cookie cutter standard similar to the install guide for ops upgrade content - on a smaller scale - might help address Michael D's concern. Maybe. Ml discussion will bring some attention. | 21:12 |
| loquacities | JRobinson__: agreed | 21:13 |
| JRobinson__ | sorry, Michal D. | 21:13 |
| loquacities | ok, let's move on | 21:13 |
| loquacities | #topic Speciality teams reports: | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Speciality teams reports: (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:13 | |
| loquacities | #info API: Anne Gentle | 21:13 |
| loquacities | anne can't be here, so let me copypaste | 21:13 |
| loquacities | Karen Bradshaw has been working on updates to the openstackdocstheme that would fix this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1583623. The review is up at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393890/ and getting input from the affected teams who have recognized the need because of errors building when you have multiple API versions with very similar calls, so you end up with identical headings. | 21:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583623 in openstack-doc-tools "os-api-ref: duplicate labels for selectors" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Karen Bradshaw (kbhawkey) | 21:13 |
| loquacities | I've had a couple of inquiries on IRC about "where did the draft/swagger files go?" but to meet their stated end goals, those particular files wouldn't have worked any way due to inaccuracies in the content and incomplete content. | 21:13 |
| loquacities | See the 100 api-ref doc patches up for review at: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+file:api-ref. | 21:13 |
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| loquacities | no questions on that? | 21:14 |
| loquacities | #info Configuration Reference and CLI Reference: Tomoyuki Kato | 21:14 |
| loquacities | i think katomo isn't here, but i don't have an update from him | 21:15 |
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| loquacities | any questions/issues on config & cli ref? | 21:15 |
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| JRobinson__ | No questions at the moment. | 21:15 |
| loquacities | #info High Availability Guide: Andrew Beekhof | 21:15 |
| loquacities | i don't have an update from andrew, either | 21:16 |
| loquacities | are you here, andrew? | 21:16 |
| loquacities | i'll take that as a no :P | 21:16 |
| loquacities | #info Installation guides: Lana Brindley | 21:16 |
| loquacities | that be me | 21:16 |
| loquacities | so, no major updates to the guides themselves, but we are planning updates to the landing page | 21:17 |
| loquacities | we're also working on getting our first deployment guide landed there | 21:17 |
| loquacities | with openstack ansible | 21:17 |
| loquacities | i've requested design resources from foundation, but haven't heard back yet | 21:17 |
| loquacities | so if you have ideas/suggestions (or design skillz!) then please let me know :) | 21:18 |
| loquacities | questions on the install guide? | 21:18 |
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| loquacities | #info Networking Guide: John Davidge | 21:18 |
| JRobinson__ | No questions, signal boosting the designer skills item though | 21:18 |
| loquacities | thanks JRobinson__ | 21:18 |
| loquacities | ok, john isn't here, i have his report: | 21:18 |
| loquacities | As for my update - not much to report. A couple of new articles are close to merging: | 21:19 |
| loquacities | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361776/ - VLAN Trunking | 21:19 |
| loquacities | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356013/ - Routed Provider Networks | 21:19 |
| loquacities | Need to decide how best to track the work that¹s going on for: | 21:19 |
| loquacities | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/use-openstack-comm | 21:19 |
| loquacities | Probably a google spreadsheet or ether pad with a list of all the network guide pages to be converted, and the person working on it would be best. That way we can hopefully avoid duplicating efforts. | 21:19 |
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| loquacities | ok, questions on networking? | 21:20 |
| bmoss | loquacities, that blueprint link doesn't seem to work for me | 21:20 |
| loquacities | #info Operations and Architecture Design guides: Shilla Saebi | 21:20 |
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| loquacities | bmoss: ah, one sec | 21:20 |
| bmoss | oh, I see. Should be 'command' at the end | 21:21 |
| loquacities | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/use-openstack-command | 21:21 |
| loquacities | yep, copypasta on my behalf, sorry | 21:21 |
| loquacities | my email client broke it | 21:21 |
| bmoss | no worries. Got it now. :) | 21:21 |
| loquacities | yay! | 21:21 |
| loquacities | darrenc: are you acting as shilla's proxy today? | 21:21 |
| loquacities | can you give us an ops/arch update? | 21:21 |
| darrenc | I guess so :) | 21:21 |
| loquacities | :P | 21:21 |
| darrenc | We're slowly making progress with the arch guide | 21:22 |
| darrenc | and have cloudnull onboard to help | 21:22 |
| loquacities | oh, great! | 21:22 |
| darrenc | So the focus is completing the design chapter and migrating stuff from the ops guide | 21:23 |
| darrenc | that's all :) | 21:23 |
| loquacities | cool, thanks darrenc :) | 21:24 |
| loquacities | any questions on ops/arch? | 21:24 |
| loquacities | #info Security Guide: Nathaniel Dillon | 21:24 |
| loquacities | doesn't look as though nathaniel is here | 21:24 |
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| loquacities | #info Training Guides: Matjaz Pancur | 21:24 |
| loquacities | from matjaz: | 21:25 |
| loquacities | - we changed our IRC meeting to every two weeks (on even weeks) on Tuesday at 1300 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3 - there will be an article published about BCN Upstream training in OpenStack’s Superuser magazine - BCN Upstream training retrospective https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-barcelona-retrospective | 21:25 |
| loquacities | questions on training guides? | 21:25 |
| loquacities | #info Training labs: Pranav Salunke, Roger Luethi | 21:25 |
| loquacities | rluethi: do you have an update? | 21:25 |
| rluethi | we have the python port already under review. | 21:26 |
| rluethi | yes, the spec is not done yet, either. | 21:26 |
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| loquacities | heh, always the way :P | 21:26 |
| rluethi | We hope to get them merged soonish and in the right order :) | 21:26 |
| loquacities | awesome | 21:27 |
| loquacities | thanks :) | 21:27 |
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| loquacities | and, last but not least: | 21:27 |
| loquacities | #info User guides: Joseph Robinson | 21:27 |
| loquacities | JRobinson__: what do you have for us? | 21:27 |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#Ocata_Tasks | 21:27 |
| JRobinson__ | This the current work on converting the legacy commands to OS commands | 21:27 |
| loquacities | looks like it's well underway | 21:27 |
| loquacities | i know i've seen a lot patches | 21:27 |
| JRobinson__ | Thanks to csatari and visnyei and allen, there's progress happening. | 21:28 |
| loquacities | great :) | 21:28 |
| JRobinson__ | I need to finish adding the files affected to the checklist, and then also start making changes. | 21:28 |
| darrenc | Is there a tracking page? | 21:28 |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#Legacy_to_OpenStack_command_conversion_table | 21:29 |
| darrenc | ignore me | 21:29 |
| JRobinson__ | link to the specific table^ | 21:29 |
| JRobinson__ | I had thought that it might have a bit too many details, but it seems to be clear so far. | 21:29 |
| darrenc | Perhaps mention it on the mailing list? | 21:29 |
| JRobinson__ | Apart from this tasks, keeping track of any admin or user guide bugs is also a task. | 21:30 |
| loquacities | yeah, that's a good ideea | 21:30 |
| JRobinson__ | Good idea, definitely. | 21:30 |
| darrenc | Because I've seen a few duplicate patches | 21:30 |
| JRobinson__ | #action Send out another User Guides update email, with current conversion task list. | 21:30 |
| loquacities | you need a person on the action | 21:30 |
| loquacities | #action JRobinson__ Send out another User Guides update email, with current conversion task list. | 21:31 |
| JRobinson__ | Should be my nic there, thanks :) | 21:31 |
| loquacities | np :) | 21:31 |
| loquacities | ok, are we all done with speciality teams? | 21:31 |
| loquacities | let's move on | 21:31 |
| loquacities | #topic Countdown to release: | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Countdown to release: (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:31 | |
| loquacities | #info 96 days to go! | 21:31 |
| loquacities | that's scary, because US thanksgiving is next week, followed by christmas, new year, etc | 21:32 |
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| loquacities | release day is 22 feb | 21:32 |
| loquacities | our deliverables list is correspondingly short, though | 21:32 |
| loquacities | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OcataDeliverables | 21:32 |
| loquacities | does anyone have questions on release things or deliverables? | 21:33 |
| ianychoi | Hi yep including generating PDFs | 21:33 |
| loquacities | yep! | 21:33 |
| ianychoi | For generating PDFs, I will update a spec: changing from rst2pdf to latex | 21:34 |
| lutz_ | at least for the install tutorial its already in the list | 21:34 |
| ianychoi | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/ocata/build-pdf-from-rst-guides.html | 21:34 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396943/ | 21:34 |
| lutz_ | +1 for LaTeX from me! | 21:34 |
| loquacities | <3 LaTeX :) | 21:34 |
| ianychoi | since rst2pdf is not working well unfortunately | 21:34 |
| loquacities | ah, ok | 21:34 |
| loquacities | cool, i'm glad there's progress on this | 21:34 |
| ianychoi | Thanks :) | 21:35 |
| loquacities | really, generating PDFs is for all books, not just install, but that's ok | 21:35 |
| loquacities | we need to start somewhere | 21:35 |
| lutz_ | if there are any problems with latex just shoot me an email or so | 21:35 |
| loquacities | ok, let's move on | 21:35 |
| lutz_ | having done quit e abit with latex in the past | 21:35 |
| ianychoi | lutz_, wow good thanks! | 21:35 |
| loquacities | #topic PTG Atlanta Feb 20-24 2017 | 21:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Atlanta Feb 20-24 2017 (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:35 | |
| loquacities | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg Event info | 21:35 |
| loquacities | #link https://pikeptg.eventbrite.com/ Tickets | 21:36 |
| loquacities | #info Docs is on Monday/Tuesday | 21:36 |
| loquacities | so, who's going? | 21:36 |
| loquacities | or, who thinks they might go? ;) | 21:36 |
| ianychoi | I will go there (as I18n) | 21:36 |
| JRobinson__ | Yes if possible. | 21:36 |
| ianychoi | + Docs :) | 21:36 |
| loquacities | awesome :) | 21:36 |
| loquacities | :) | 21:37 |
| skelso | Yes if approved. Request is in. | 21:37 |
| bmoss | I'm hoping I'll be there. | 21:37 |
| loquacities | cool! | 21:37 |
| loquacities | ok, that's brings us around to ... | 21:37 |
| loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 21:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:37 | |
| loquacities | anything else? | 21:38 |
| loquacities | ok, i think that this was a successful first meeting under the new arrangement! | 21:39 |
| loquacities | thanks everyone for coming and participating :) | 21:39 |
| loquacities | i'll put out a newsletter this afternoon, with all these updates in it | 21:39 |
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| JRobinson__ | Thanks loquacities :) | 21:39 |
| ianychoi | I have just woke up it is now 6:40 am here but fine to me :) | 21:39 |
| darrenc | thanks loquacities | 21:39 |
| bmoss | thanks everyone | 21:39 |
| ianychoi | Thanks loquacities ! | 21:39 |
| ianychoi | and everyone | 21:40 |
| lutz_ | thanks all | 21:40 |
| iphutch | Thanks all | 21:40 |
| loquacities | thanks for getting up early ianychoi (and everyone else who did!) | 21:40 |
| loquacities | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:40 | |
| JRobinson__ | Great to have more attendance too, thank you all :) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 21:40:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-11-17-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-11-17-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-11-17-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
| ianychoi | Thank you all! | 21:40 |
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| loquacities | annegentle: do i get to call you blister now? :P | 21:41 |
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| loquacities | just closed the meeting a minute ago ;) | 21:42 |
| annegentle | aw man | 21:43 |
| annegentle | so close | 21:43 |
| loquacities | :P | 21:44 |
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| ianychoi | :) | 21:45 |
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