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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 10:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 10:02:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:02 |
| toabctl | hi | 10:02 |
| tonyb | #topic roll call try 2 :p | 10:02 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call try 2 :p (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:02 | |
| tonyb | So we have dirk, coolsvap, toabctl ... anyone else? | 10:03 |
| dirk | o/ | 10:03 |
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| dirk | tonyb obviously :) | 10:04 |
| tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 10:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any controversies in the Queue? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:04 | |
| * tonyb admit's he's been behind on reviews ... so anything? | 10:05 | |
| dirk | the unicorn? | 10:05 |
| dirk | things are mostly good right now except for some fallout with the new ocata releases | 10:05 |
| number80 | o/ | 10:05 |
| tonyb | hey number80 | 10:06 |
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| dirk | tonyb: haven't had a chance to process your feedback on the gunicorn change.. | 10:07 |
| dirk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386790/ | 10:08 |
| dirk | ah, there was a question and an answer | 10:08 |
| tonyb | dirk: yeah gunicorn ... I need to get back to Adam, ... It's been hard (for me) to keep the conversation flowing | 10:09 |
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| dirk | my +2 is a just a "meh, don't care". I don't feel emotional enough about it either way | 10:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: yeah fair enough. | 10:10 |
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| tonyb | dirk: I'd like to thank you again for the persistent work on getting all the constraints changes in. | 10:11 |
| dirk | tonyb: take an action item and move on? | 10:11 |
| tonyb | #topic Requirements priorities for Ocata | 10:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Requirements priorities for Ocata (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:12 | |
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| tonyb | So I still haven't written up the plan | 10:12 |
| dirk | tonyb: welcome.. eventually I might get around fixing the proposal bot, that it suggests duplicate updates is annoying | 10:12 |
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| tonyb | dirk: in what way are they duplicates? ... duplicates of the ones the new-release bot generates? | 10:13 |
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| tonyb | okay So WRT to the grand plan we started an etherpad to track constraints support. I've lost that link | 10:16 |
| dirk | tonyb: yep, I always have to remove those that are already in separate reviews (and stuck there due to regressions) | 10:16 |
| dirk | I know it probably requires a bit of magic. dunno how the magic will look like though | 10:16 |
| * coolsvap searching for the link of ehterpad | 10:17 | |
| dirk | probably patch -R's of all open reviews that touch uc on the same branch or something like that | 10:17 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yeah it'd be quite tricky | 10:17 |
| dirk | maybe this one ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-requirements-notes | 10:18 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Yeah that might work. It *should* get easier during this cycle as the release team will chnage the bots so that the updates are one per chnage in the release repo as opposed to one per library | 10:19 |
| tonyb | dirk: Thanks. the link I'm thinking of was speciifcally for constratints ... | 10:19 |
| coolsvap | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage | 10:20 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: Yes! | 10:20 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage | 10:20 |
| tonyb | So the grand plan requires that all projects support constratints so we need to work with the team that don'tto get that support landed. | 10:21 |
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| tonyb | I'm working on a "template" in oslo.messaging that should roll out to all the others | 10:21 |
| dirk | great, add the link to the review when ready so that we can copy it | 10:22 |
| tonyb | Once the oslo.messaging one lands we can divide up the rest | 10:22 |
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| tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394721/ | 10:22 |
| tonyb | It's WiP as it was blocked on the release of 1.0.0 of openstak-requirements ... which happened yesterday | 10:23 |
| tonyb | That'll simlyfy the tox_install.sh script | 10:23 |
| dirk | congrats :) | 10:23 |
| tonyb | dirk: :) Standing on the shoulders of giants ;P | 10:24 |
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| tonyb | ... Once we have constrainst support we;ll be able to work towards removing minimum values into the projects and out of g-r.txt | 10:25 |
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| * dirk still feels that the removal of a consistently enforced lower boundary will quickly turn the openstack* projects lower boundaries to become stale | 10:25 | |
| tonyb | then we'll be able to remove the proposal-bot altogether | 10:26 |
| tonyb | dirk: we wont *have* any "openstck lower bound" | 10:26 |
| dirk | well, individual lower bounds | 10:26 |
| dirk | or do we plan to add a job to each project to verify that lower bounds still pass checks? | 10:26 |
| dirk | my feeling is that as a downstream distro we'll not always be able to match uc exactly, and we're then outside waters | 10:27 |
| dirk | if there is a range of [lc,uc) and we're in that one then I feel at least somewhat safe | 10:27 |
| dirk | might be a stale feeling though | 10:27 |
| dirk | outside safe waters I mean | 10:28 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yes that one. We'll write the tools to enable projects to test lower bounds either on each change to as a periodica job | 10:28 |
| tonyb | the former would be preferred. | 10:28 |
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| tonyb | There was an idea that we'd only enble that on pyton3 only but I'm not a big fan of that | 10:29 |
| dirk | ok, so uc is the globally enforced lockstep of coinstallability and centrally managed, and every project can choose their lc (but not their uc) ? | 10:29 |
| coolsvap | yeah i think it can be part of the initial job template | 10:29 |
| tonyb | COrrect | 10:29 |
| dirk | sorry, with lc I mean lower bounds | 10:29 |
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| tonyb | And the theory is that the lower bounds stuff will always be "current" per project | 10:31 |
| dirk | hmm. still feels that we're missing something, but I can't find the words for it right now | 10:31 |
| tonyb | I helps with testing but I'm not 100% certain that it makes packagers lives easier ... I dont' think it makes it any harder | 10:32 |
| tonyb | dirk: If you put you finger on it you know where I am ... | 10:32 |
| tonyb | coolsvap, number80, toabctl: did that make sense to y'all? | 10:33 |
| coolsvap | tonyb: yes agreed | 10:33 |
| dirk | tonyb: how do projects get the uc? do they fetch it from git? or is it part of the pip installed package? | 10:33 |
| dirk | the uc data itself I mean | 10:33 |
| tonyb | dirk: the same way the do now ... they point to the cgit url | 10:34 |
| dirk | ok | 10:34 |
| tonyb | It does mean more testing in each project but we can't get better testing coverage without adding extra tests | 10:35 |
| dirk | yeah, the uc changes in global-requirements will need more coverage tests.. but more is better anyway | 10:35 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Yeah. We need to be careful there | 10:36 |
| tonyb | okay so in terms of actions | 10:38 |
| tonyb | #action tonyb to finish the oslo.messaging change | 10:38 |
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| tonyb | #action .... generate a list of projecst that need constaraints suppoer | 10:38 |
| tonyb | #action .... land that support | 10:38 |
| tonyb | By then we'll have the rest documented | 10:39 |
| number80 | yes | 10:39 |
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| tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 10:39 |
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| tonyb | ... So 'sup? | 10:39 |
| tonyb | Anythong to discuss here | 10:39 |
| coolsvap | I have change to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397532/ | 10:40 |
| coolsvap | its not controversial so brought up here | 10:41 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: Thanks. | 10:41 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: I had a quick look and the project-config chnage hadn't merged | 10:41 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: I think we can all look at it today/tomorrow | 10:41 |
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| coolsvap | tonyb: its merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396903/ | 10:42 |
| * tonyb clones kolla-ansible | 10:42 | |
| tonyb | coolsvap: Thanks | 10:42 |
| coolsvap | we can take that on channel | 10:42 |
| coolsvap | :) | 10:42 |
| coolsvap | nothing from my side really | 10:42 |
| tonyb | Anything else? | 10:43 |
| dirk | tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361517/ | 10:44 |
| dirk | can we remove the -2 there? | 10:44 |
| coolsvap | dirk: I think no | 10:45 |
| tonyb | dirk: We can remove the -2 but we shouldn't merge it until we've tested it | 10:45 |
| dirk | yeah, we need a transition plan I guess | 10:46 |
| tonyb | dirk: Also towards the end of the cycle it'll have no impact as we wont have bots generating chnages from that data | 10:46 |
| tonyb | dirk: If you have time, the testing is | 10:46 |
| tonyb | clone all the repos in projects.txt | 10:46 |
| tonyb | run the bot to ensure they're current | 10:47 |
| tonyb | appliy that review | 10:47 |
| tonyb | re-run the bot | 10:47 |
| tonyb | compare the diff if there are any then the change isn't accepable IMO | 10:47 |
| dirk | thx for the explanation | 10:48 |
| dirk | I probably will not be able to get to that | 10:48 |
| dirk | not within the next 2 weeks at least | 10:48 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yeah it's low priority | 10:48 |
| tonyb | anyone else care to do that thing? | 10:48 |
| tonyb | s/care/have time/ | 10:49 |
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| tonyb | coolsvap: Yeah that makes sense | 10:49 |
| tonyb | Anything else? | 10:51 |
| dirk | one more topic.. | 10:51 |
| dirk | we have this job gate-requirements-integration-dsvm-resolver-ubuntu-xenial that is non-voting and always failing | 10:51 |
| dirk | any idea what it is about and what we should do about it? | 10:51 |
| tonyb | dirk: Sure | 10:51 |
| tonyb | dirk: you may or may not know that pip doesn't have a real depenacy resolver, lifeless was working on a branch of pip that added that feature | 10:52 |
| tonyb | that job runs against that unmerged and probably defunct branch | 10:52 |
| tonyb | dirk: If you upload a review to remove it we can get lifless to weigh in | 10:53 |
| tonyb | dirk: I expcet he'd be find with it going | 10:53 |
| tonyb | dirk: does that help? | 10:53 |
| dirk | yep, thanks for the background | 10:54 |
| tonyb | Cool | 10:54 |
| tonyb | Are we done? | 10:55 |
| * tonyb hands out early marks (http://ozwords.org/?p=2742) | 10:56 | |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 10:56:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-11-16-10.02.html | 10:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-11-16-10.02.txt | 10:56 |
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| zhurong | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 14:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhurong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
| zhurong | #topic Roll call | 14:00 |
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| zhurong | Hi Ablu | 14:00 |
| Ablu | hi | 14:00 |
| zhurong | seems only two of us | 14:01 |
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| Ablu | zhurong: hm. there is nothing from my side... | 14:01 |
| zhurong | here is the agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum | 14:01 |
| Ablu | I try to fix my dev environment by reinstalling it | 14:01 |
| Ablu | otherwise I will try to fix the tests on my changesets tomorrow | 14:01 |
| zhurong | OK, good luck to you to solve your environment | 14:02 |
| zhurong | #topic Discussion | 14:02 |
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| zhurong | I will wait 10 more mins, if no one shows up with topics to discuss — would end the meeting soon | 14:04 |
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| Ablu | zhurong: thanks | 14:08 |
| zhurong | Ablu :} | 14:08 |
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| zhurong | Ablu thanks for joinging ;) | 14:14 |
| zhurong | #endmeeting | 14:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 14:15:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-11-16-14.00.html | 14:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-11-16-14.00.txt | 14:15 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Folks time for ML2 meeting | 16:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev_ | who is here to attend ML2 meeting? | 16:01 |
| andreas_s | hi | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev_ | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 16:02:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| brianstajkowski | hi! | 16:02 |
| andreas_s | hi brianstajkowski | 16:02 |
| brianstajkowski | hey andreas_s | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev_ | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_November_16.2C_2016 | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I am using the agenda from the last week - | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Anybody has any announcements? | 16:04 |
| rkukura | none here | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev_ | I missed neutron core meeting this week - any update from it | 16:04 |
| rkukura | I wasn’t there and haven’t looked at the log | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: RFEs/Bugs | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Port binding info for nova migration - | 16:07 |
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| andreas_s | yeah | 16:07 |
| brianstajkowski | i've taken over spec work on this from andreas_s | 16:07 |
| andreas_s | I want to introduce you guys to brianstajkowski | 16:07 |
| andreas_s | :) | 16:07 |
| brianstajkowski | jinx | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev_ | brianstajkowski : welcome | 16:07 |
| rkukura | hi brianstajkowski! | 16:08 |
| brianstajkowski | main point on this is I hope to have the wip tag off by friday or next monday, just rolling through ml2 changes db sections | 16:08 |
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| brianstajkowski | shortly after that, on our team we have a dev lined up to quickly get a wip patch up for nova to begin work | 16:09 |
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| brianstajkowski | while we hammer out the nitty gritty of the spec and merge it | 16:09 |
| andreas_s | cool | 16:09 |
| brianstajkowski | question though | 16:09 |
| brianstajkowski | are we set on merging the portbinding and ditributedportbinding tables? | 16:10 |
| brianstajkowski | meaning, are we set on the name of the table distributedportbinding at this point? should it be called something entirely different? | 16:10 |
| andreas_s | I don't think that merging those tables is a requirement | 16:11 |
| andreas_s | it was just one possibility | 16:11 |
| brianstajkowski | yes understood | 16:12 |
| rkukura | brianstajkowski: Interested in your recommendations on both those | 16:12 |
| rkukura | Way back, I was advocating simply making a non-distributed port binding a special case of a potenatially distributed port binding, but not sure how things have evolved since then | 16:12 |
| brianstajkowski | if we merge them we can toss around what it can be changed to if it is, or just alter the portbinding table | 16:13 |
| brianstajkowski | i guess there's no hard opinions, i'll throw it in the spec and we can work it out that way then | 16:14 |
| rkukura | brianstajkowski: makes sense | 16:14 |
| brianstajkowski | that's all I had on this | 16:14 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, the other point is, that in ocata you are not allowed to do any contract operations | 16:14 |
| brianstajkowski | yea i heard this as well | 16:14 |
| brianstajkowski | i don't want that to influence a good direction once chosen though | 16:15 |
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| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, so when moving data we need to do a lot of things to make that happen. Ihar and I guess korzen wanted to work with me on that | 16:15 |
| brianstajkowski | yes, not a problem, was it in regard to ovo? | 16:16 |
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| andreas_s | that also plays a role. OVO is the enabler for upgrades without downtime | 16:17 |
| andreas_s | and due to the update without downtime thing contract operations are not allowed anymore | 16:17 |
| rkukura | Is the idea that an OVO would maintain both the old and new tables for some period of time, and later a contract migration would remove the old table? | 16:17 |
| andreas_s | rkukura, exactly | 16:18 |
| rkukura | So contract migrations will be allowed later, just not in ocata? | 16:18 |
| andreas_s | rkukura, they will only be allowed to cleanup schema changes that happend N-2 release in the past (or so) | 16:19 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:19 |
| andreas_s | not sure about the N-2 here | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev_ | what is so specific about N-2? | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev_ | i guess just a cutoff date | 16:20 |
| rkukura | If this to give time for all components to be udpate - my view is this could be minutes or hours rather than years | 16:21 |
| andreas_s | I don't know the details - there is spec out there | 16:21 |
| andreas_s | #link https://review.openstack.org/386685 | 16:21 |
| brianstajkowski | most of our team is working ovo, i can reach out for specifics there and figure out what our restrictions will be | 16:22 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, nice! | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev_ | brianstajkowski : which company do you work for? | 16:23 |
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| brianstajkowski | rackspace, i manage the intel/rackspace portion for neutron | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev_ | nice | 16:23 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, osic, right? | 16:24 |
| brianstajkowski | osic yes | 16:24 |
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| dasm | rkukura | So contract migrations will be allowed later, just not in ocata? | 16:25 |
| dasm | rkukura: afair, contract is not allowed at all. and won't be reintroduced | 16:25 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, the other thing is, there are "2 parallel threads" in the ml2 code, one for distributed binding and one for normal binding | 16:25 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, I think it makes sense to keep them for the beginning | 16:25 |
| andreas_s | dasm, ok | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s +1 | 16:26 |
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| brianstajkowski | agree andreas_s | 16:26 |
| brianstajkowski | dasm: any details on this? | 16:26 |
| andreas_s | dasm, so what I understood is that at some point in the future you should be able to cleanup the old tables/columns that are not required anymore | 16:26 |
| dasm | brianstajkowski: currently looking for source | 16:26 |
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| brianstajkowski | k | 16:27 |
| andreas_s | but we need an expert here I guess. haven't seen ihar around.. | 16:27 |
| dasm | andreas_s: general idea is to disallow contract and allow just for expand transactions. so cleanup happens after N+2 | 16:27 |
| dasm | N release introduces new column, N+1 syncs both columns new and old, N+2 drops old column, when all data is migrated/synced | 16:27 |
| rkukura | dasm: Isn’t that cleanup after N+2 a contract migration? | 16:27 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, so my point is, if you merge those tables - will it be easily possible to distinguish normal and distributed binding? | 16:27 |
| dasm | rkukura: yes | 16:28 |
| brianstajkowski | andreas_s: that's the main point, seems like the table then becomes something entirely different | 16:28 |
| dasm | rkukura: andreas_s brianstajkowski this should behave similar to cinder use-case: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/rolling.upgrades.html#alter-on-a-column | 16:28 |
| andreas_s | dasm, got it | 16:29 |
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| brianstajkowski | andreas_s: but in this case it seems easier to just alter the portbinding table | 16:29 |
| andreas_s | dasm, thanks for clarifying! | 16:29 |
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| brianstajkowski | ty dasm ! | 16:29 |
| dasm | andreas_s: np | 16:29 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, yep, probably extend the PK to include the host attribute and add the status column or so | 16:30 |
| brianstajkowski | +1 | 16:30 |
| rkukura | brianstajkowski, andreas_s: Way back when I was working on portbinding, my plan was to unify both the DB and the schema | 16:30 |
| brianstajkowski | rkukura: someday, does it makes sense to do it now though is the question | 16:31 |
| rkukura | I meant “both the DB schema and the logic” | 16:32 |
| brianstajkowski | ah ok | 16:32 |
| andreas_s | db is simple :) logic is challenging I guess... | 16:32 |
| dasanind_ | andreas_s, brianstajkowski, rkukura: Does that mean the proposal is to have only one port binding table to handle both the distributed and normal port binding? | 16:32 |
| brianstajkowski | dasanind_: well initially that was a part of the spec, i think we are deciding now on just altering the portbinding table to accomodate multiple bindings and add a status column | 16:33 |
| rkukura | dasanind_: That was my goal when I was working on this a long time ago, but I’m not sure now | 16:33 |
| dasanind_ | oh ok | 16:34 |
| brianstajkowski | might be a good first step before we combine | 16:34 |
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| andreas_s | rkukura, dasanind_, I guess that's the big vision - and it still would make sense - cause the code is really hard to understand with that 2 parallel threads.. But this is a huge change - probably very risky | 16:34 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, dasanind_ maybe we could start aligning the columns of the portbinding table to the distributed table? | 16:35 |
| brianstajkowski | possible yes | 16:35 |
| brianstajkowski | i'll see what we can do | 16:35 |
| andreas_s | if they use the same columns and the values are designed in a way that they are compatible (e.g. status "active" does not have 2 meanings") then this would be a first step | 16:35 |
| dasanind_ | andreas_s: that's a good starting point | 16:36 |
| rkukura | brianstajkowski: sounds good | 16:36 |
| brianstajkowski | perfect ty all | 16:36 |
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| andreas_s | I guess the thing with the "active" is a real ting - also dvr uses this | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev_ | right - be sure to run it by them - perhaps swami | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev_ | anything else on this topic? | 16:38 |
| brianstajkowski | nothing here | 16:38 |
| rkukura | not from me | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | cool - thanks | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : shall we move on to next topic? | 16:39 |
| andreas_s | andreas_s, yes | 16:39 |
| andreas_s | please | 16:39 |
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| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Driver API - request for feaatures | 16:39 |
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| Sukhdev_ | So, I see two bugs - | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev_ | one is unassigned | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : no body updated the bug after your comments | 16:41 |
| rkukura | I see | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev_ | there seems to be no taker for this | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | I’m pretty sure the exensions that are packaged as extension drivers show up if and only if those extension drivers are configured, right? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev_ | Is there anybody here who has any update/status for either one of these two bugs/requests | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : yes, I believe so | 16:44 |
| andreas_s | nope | 16:45 |
| rkukura | So this issue is really that we might want to not advertize extensions mixed-into the ML2 plugin itself when none of the configured mechanism drivers are able to support them | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | My 2nd comment about enforcment of extension semantics in port binding should probably be addressed (or not) separately from this bug. | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev_ | looking at the dates - I see no action on this for a while (almost 5 months) | 16:49 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: I don’t think anyone is working on the extension advertizement bug, but I don’t think we should close it as won’t fix | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : OK | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev_ | for the second bug, there is a patch | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev_ | I reviewed it while back and looked good to me | 16:52 |
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| rkukura | I hadn’t seen that one, but just added that to me list to review | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev_ | cool - | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev_ | I do not have anything else | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic Open Discussion | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Anybody wants to discuss anything additional? | 16:54 |
| rkukura | Who is planning to attend the PTG in Atlanta? | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : there is your answer :-) | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev_ | Looks like we are done | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev_ | Thanks folks | 16:58 |
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| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev_! | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev_ | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 16:58:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-11-16-16.02.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-11-16-16.02.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-11-16-16.02.log.html | 16:58 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 17:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | ping timsim Kiall federico3 elarson | 17:01 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | just you an me I think :( | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | #topic Bug triage - timsim | 17:02 |
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| sonuk_ | o/ | 17:03 |
| * timsim sighs | 17:03 | |
| mugsie | sonuk_: o/ | 17:03 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1635006 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1635006 in Designate "V1 record create occasionally fails with db error" [Undecided,New] | 17:03 |
| mugsie | yurp | 17:03 |
| mugsie | eh, needs investiagtion | 17:03 |
| federico3 | o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | but High | 17:03 |
| mugsie | if it is a code based problem | 17:04 |
| * timsim wonders if it's a replication thing | 17:04 | |
| mugsie | timsim: you could be on to some thing | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | OK, mark as high, comment that we need to investigate? | 17:05 |
| timsim | k | 17:05 |
| timsim | mugsie: You've still got this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1627941 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627941 in Designate "Zone transfer accept is forbidden for the non admin users " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | yeah ... | 17:06 |
| mugsie | OK, I need to find time this week | 17:06 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1639307 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639307 in Designate ""record-list" should be case insensitive" [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
| timsim | Looks like this person is using the old client | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yeah, but it is an error in our API (I think ?? ) | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | I think that we will have the same issue in openstack client | 17:08 |
| mugsie | move it to the client anyway | 17:08 |
| timsim | Probably only in filtering v1? | 17:08 |
| timsim | yeah | 17:08 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1639748 | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639748 in Designate "zone pool attribute + fallback filter not working without attributes" [Undecided,New] | 17:08 |
| mugsie | yeah - but filtering is just based down to the DB in both APIs | 17:08 |
| mugsie | yeah, triagged + Critical - assign to me | 17:08 |
| mugsie | I know the line that needs to change | 17:09 |
| timsim | k | 17:09 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1642268 | 17:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1642268 in python-designateclient ""openstack recordset set: error: too few arguments" when not specifying --ttl or use --no-ttl" [Undecided,New] | 17:09 |
| mugsie | Saw that come in this morning | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | Needs to be tested - I know we didnt need it in BCN | 17:10 |
| mugsie | oh. set | 17:10 |
| mugsie | damn | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | that could be an issue alright | 17:10 |
| timsim | What is set? | 17:10 |
| mugsie | update | 17:10 |
| timsim | hm. Yeah i don't think I've ever tried that with that cli | 17:10 |
| mugsie | (osc has defined keywords) | 17:10 |
| mugsie | triagged + Med | 17:11 |
| mugsie | and moved to the client | 17:11 |
| timsim | k | 17:11 |
| timsim | Alright, that's all | 17:11 |
| mugsie | k | 17:12 |
| mugsie | #topic Backpots | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | #topic Backports | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | http://paste.openstack.org/show/589482/ | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/589482/ | 17:12 |
| mugsie | have a read | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | 754a572 Merge "Fix for allowing user to create zone other than ending with TLD" | 17:13 |
| mugsie | thats it afacs | 17:13 |
| timsim | Yeah I was just looking at that one | 17:14 |
| timsim | Seems legit | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie bp 754a572 Merge "Fix for allowing user to create zone other than ending with TLD" | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | anything else? | 17:14 |
| timsim | Sucks that it goes and gets tlds on every zone create, but oh well. | 17:15 |
| mugsie | yeah, seems to be the only way :( | 17:15 |
| timsim | Probably the only simple thing to do yeah. | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | yeah - short of etcd / zk | 17:15 |
| timsim | Yeah | 17:16 |
| timsim | cool, that's it I think | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #topic Ocata 1 Release (mugsie) | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | We need to cut o-1 tomorrow | 17:16 |
| mugsie | so, have a look at the outstanding patches and see if there is anything that needs to merge | 17:16 |
| mugsie | I have one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395098/ | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395098/ | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | thanks to toabctl for ^ | 17:17 |
| timsim | Yeah that's great | 17:17 |
| mugsie | timsim: can you have a look today at some point? | 17:17 |
| timsim | I was going to let Kiall have a look at that, but I can. | 17:18 |
| mugsie | yeah - I can ping him as well (he is afk right now) | 17:18 |
| mugsie | http://graham.hayes.ie/designate/dashboard | 17:18 |
| mugsie | #link http://graham.hayes.ie/designate/dashboard | 17:18 |
| mugsie | OK. | 17:19 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | One item - PTG | 17:19 |
| mugsie | who thinks that they will be able to go? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | ttx is asking us to say yay or nay to a slot in Atlanta | 17:20 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: I am not sure. | 17:20 |
| mugsie | I can probably make it personally. but if it is only going to be 3 / 4 of us, I am not sure about the value of taking a room | 17:20 |
| mugsie | and I can just fly in for the 48 hours needed for cross project work | 17:21 |
| timsim | I'm honestly not sure. | 17:21 |
| mugsie | sonuk_: its a long flight for you isnt it? | 17:21 |
| mugsie | timsim: know that feeling | 17:21 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: yep. | 17:21 |
| timsim | Do you think Kiall could come? Because otherwise it'd just be the two of us, if I could come | 17:22 |
| mugsie | well, I will be travelling on airmiles + hotel points | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | OK. it sounds like its a reluctant no for us then | 17:23 |
| timsim | I guess so :( it seems unlikely that we'll be able to get more than one or two there. | 17:23 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:23 |
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| timsim | If it turns out we can go, we can probably grab a spot somewhere. | 17:23 |
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| mugsie | yeah - we should be able to | 17:24 |
| mugsie | OK - any other topics? | 17:24 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: is there any link of barcelona summit recap? | 17:24 |
| mugsie | sonuk_: nope - it is still a draft :( | 17:24 |
| mugsie | I will try to finish it today / tomorrow | 17:24 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: ok. | 17:25 |
| mugsie | sorry - there has been a lot of ... change ... internally recently | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | that it? | 17:25 |
| timsim | I think so | 17:25 |
| mugsie | who wants 35mins back? | 17:25 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:25 |
| sonuk_ | o/ | 17:25 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 17:25:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-11-16-17.01.html | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-11-16-17.01.txt | 17:25 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 17:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 17:59:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:59 |
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| mvandijk | o/ | 18:00 |
| amrith | hola | 18:00 |
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| peterstac | o/ | 18:00 |
| aliadil | o/ | 18:00 |
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| amrith | SlickNik sends his apologies, won't be able to make it today | 18:00 |
| johnma | hello amrith | 18:00 |
| amrith | courtesy ping for dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik | 18:00 |
| amrith | hi mariam, peter, matt, ali | 18:01 |
| amrith | not a lot on my agenda for today | 18:01 |
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| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| amrith | let's get started | 18:02 |
| amrith | not sure if anyone else will be here, and this may be a short meeting | 18:02 |
| amrith | #topic Review status | 18:02 |
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| amrith | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing | 18:03 |
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| trevormc | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | so a small uptick in reviews but as always need to pick up the pace | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | the gate has of course been a bit of a drag | 18:03 |
| amrith | but that is now unblocked (for the present) | 18:03 |
| amrith | and we should be able to move forward | 18:03 |
| amrith | as I said at last meeting, there is an ocata deadline tomorrow; more about that later. | 18:04 |
| amrith | anything else about reviews? velocity? status? | 18:04 |
| vgnbkr | Right now, pretty much everything is +1'd or -1'd - nothing to review :-) | 18:04 |
| amrith | vgnbkr, that's good. waiting for some of them to get +2'ed and then merged. | 18:05 |
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| amrith | hearing nothing else, let's switch the agenda a bit to | 18:05 |
| amrith | #topic Ocata Release Schedule - Update | 18:05 |
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| amrith | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 18:05 |
| amrith | so there's a deadline tomorrow for ocata | 18:05 |
| amrith | I'm hoping to get a couple of things merged before that | 18:05 |
| amrith | thx johnma for merging a couple of things yesterday and today | 18:06 |
| mvandijk | what deadline? | 18:06 |
| mvandijk | nothing for nov 17 | 18:06 |
| johnma | amrith: so is the spec deadline this week or next. from the schedule it looks like next week | 18:06 |
| johnma | amrith: I am going to be working on some more reviews today and will try to get them merged today | 18:07 |
| amrith | johnma, mvandijk the deadline is o-1 | 18:07 |
| amrith | it is a release that we are required to cut | 18:07 |
| amrith | I'll send you an email about that; from the release team | 18:07 |
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| amrith | so we have to tag a release tomororw | 18:08 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/397768 | 18:08 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/397771 | 18:08 |
| pmalik_ | ./ | 18:09 |
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| amrith | mvandijk, ok? | 18:09 |
| mvandijk | yes | 18:09 |
| amrith | so the primary thing that I'd wanted to merge was the API/RPC versioning thing | 18:09 |
| amrith | I see that peter +1'ed it | 18:09 |
| amrith | thanks peterstac | 18:09 |
| amrith | johnma, I'd still appreciate a review | 18:09 |
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| amrith | if something is broken we can still (must still) try and fix it if possible | 18:10 |
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| amrith | johnma, thanks; anything(s) we can merge today would be a plus | 18:10 |
| amrith | WARNING TO ALL: We are running the gate with nova networking as a temporary workaround for some neutron problems. | 18:10 |
| johnma | yes amrith. will do | 18:11 |
| amrith | we'll revert that once we can figure out what's going on with neutron. peterstac is working on that. | 18:11 |
| amrith | stay tuned for updates about that. | 18:11 |
| amrith | that's about all I had re: ocata release schedule. | 18:11 |
| mvandijk | @amrith I have had success with neutron | 18:11 |
| peterstac | in the gate? | 18:11 |
| mvandijk | let me know if you need help | 18:11 |
| amrith | And ... as mvandijk and johnma said the deadline for specs is next week. | 18:11 |
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| amrith | mvandijk, speak with peterstac | 18:11 |
| amrith | he's up in canada I believe :) | 18:12 |
| amrith | peterstac, meet mvandijk | 18:12 |
| amrith | mvandijk, meet peterstac | 18:12 |
| amrith | you folks should chat :) | 18:12 |
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| amrith | Anything else on the subject of ocata release schedule ... | 18:12 |
| peterstac | mvandijk, running it locally seems to work fine - the issues are with gate setup and what looks like ipv4/v6 issues | 18:12 |
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| mvandijk | ok we can talk later | 18:13 |
| peterstac | sure | 18:13 |
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| amrith | #topic Specs that are up for review (if any) | 18:14 |
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| amrith | moving back up the agenda | 18:14 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-specs+status:open | 18:14 |
| amrith | these are the specs currently in discussion ... | 18:14 |
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| amrith | Ignore https://review.openstack.org/391637 | 18:15 |
| amrith | that one may not move fast enough for ocata | 18:15 |
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| amrith | mvandijk, is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389760/ still WIP? | 18:15 |
| mvandijk | yes | 18:15 |
| amrith | would you please WF-1 it. | 18:15 |
| amrith | if y'all have time please review these and provide feedback. | 18:16 |
| amrith | vgnbkr, I see a couple that you've not reviewed recently :) | 18:16 |
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| amrith | if there are other specs forthcoming, your time is rapidly running out for Ocata | 18:16 |
| amrith | That's all I had on specs, anyone have anything else to add? | 18:17 |
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| amrith | #topic Code Reviews | 18:18 |
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| pmalik_ | There has been a proposal on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388100/ to make the metadata file always present on the guest. I think it's a bad idea. It would certainly simplify everything. We should however all agree. I think this can be discussed offline though,,, | 18:18 |
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| amrith | pmalik_, now's as good a time as any other | 18:18 |
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| amrith | ideal time actually ... so are you referring to trevormc's suggestion? you can go ahead and discuss it here; he's here ... | 18:19 |
| amrith | or later | 18:19 |
| amrith | y'all decide what you want to do | 18:19 |
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| pmalik_ | I think it was vgnbkr | 18:20 |
| amrith | well you can discuss it face to face with him :) | 18:20 |
| vgnbkr | You think it's a bad idea because it would simplify everything? | 18:20 |
| amrith | and let us know what you think | 18:20 |
| pmalik_ | missed not :D | 18:20 |
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| mvandijk | "not a bad idea" | 18:20 |
| vgnbkr | Ah - Too many fingers on keyboard error (for you old Commodore Pet users). | 18:22 |
| pmalik_ | We just need to document really well that the guest-agent expects this file and what properties it requires in it. We can update our elements to have that. | 18:22 |
| amrith | <either type short sentences or say "OVER" when you are done> | 18:22 |
| pmalik_ | The existing images should work just fine. This would only affect new guests that use those properties. | 18:23 |
| pmalik_ | over | 18:23 |
| peterstac | well, it would also affect anyone who updated the guest on existing instances ... | 18:23 |
| amrith | so you think it is a good idea. "not a bad idea" | 18:23 |
| amrith | so if that's the case, update the spec with that proposal and let's re-review it ... | 18:23 |
| pmalik_ | right | 18:23 |
| amrith | upgrade implications are an issue | 18:24 |
| peterstac | we'd have to make sure the documentation clearly stated that upgrading the guest would require injecting that new file as well | 18:24 |
| pmalik_ | <peterstac> but that is only certain update paths, right? Our trove upgrade should work just fine. | 18:24 |
| amrith | also the current code assumes that the conf directory will be empty (last I checked). | 18:24 |
| amrith | not sure how things like cloud init will like it if they are not | 18:24 |
| amrith | but worth testing | 18:24 |
| peterstac | sure, but not all providers use that route :) | 18:24 |
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| peterstac | s/sure/right - 'trove upgrade' will work/ | 18:25 |
| amrith | any other code reviews to discuss? | 18:25 |
| vgnbkr | It's not necessary to put it in conf, and it would not be injected. I'm sure oslo_config would be happy to read it from /opt/stack/trove/... | 18:25 |
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| peterstac | I'd like to see the Region stuff go in | 18:26 |
| peterstac | I need to rebase my module stuff to it, but have been holding off in case there were other changes | 18:26 |
| peterstac | (plus I think the client stuff has already merged ...) | 18:26 |
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| peterstac | (nope - client is still sitting there too) | 18:27 |
| peterstac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382493/ | 18:27 |
| johnma | yes peterstac, i am reviewing the multi region one. hopefully will get those in today | 18:27 |
| peterstac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382495/ | 18:27 |
| peterstac | johnma, great, thx! | 18:27 |
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| johnma | np peterstac. | 18:28 |
| amrith | and I'd like to see the scenario tests run in less than 2h 46m | 18:28 |
| johnma | how long does it take now | 18:29 |
| amrith | why on earth does pxc have a beef with https://review.openstack.org/393478 | 18:29 |
| amrith | it has failed consistently | 18:29 |
| dougshelley66 | if you pin them to the OSIC cloud they will run in well under 2h | 18:29 |
| amrith | johnma, there is an issue with the clouds | 18:29 |
| amrith | depends on which cloud we get for our CI jobs | 18:29 |
| amrith | like dougshelley66 says | 18:29 |
| amrith | if you are lucky and get osic, it works well | 18:29 |
| dougshelley66 | i'm assuming we don't have that level of control | 18:29 |
| amrith | but if you get rax it is a bit slower | 18:29 |
| johnma | oh ok | 18:29 |
| amrith | yes, we don't have that control | 18:29 |
| amrith | but https://review.openstack.org/393478 always ends up on rax | 18:29 |
| amrith | and fails | 18:29 |
| amrith | so peterstac pmalik_ thoughts about splitting scenario tests in half | 18:31 |
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| peterstac | we could do it pretty easily | 18:31 |
| vgnbkr | I guess the infra guys wouldn't like it if we made cron jobs that just kept resubmitting our jobs 'til they ran on OSIC and passed :-) | 18:31 |
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| peterstac | have <ds>_supported_[12] | 18:31 |
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| amrith | vgnbkr, go for it; peterstac the big time sink up front is image build. I'm working to not use the cloudimage but instead use a locally cached cloudimage | 18:32 |
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| amrith | that would be a change to a base element that would pull an infra cached copy | 18:33 |
| amrith | that should save 15 or so min on each of those two jobs. | 18:33 |
| peterstac | but what if the elements change in the trove repo (since they're there now)? | 18:33 |
| amrith | well, the ubuntu base element is ooo | 18:34 |
| dougshelley66 | peterstac i think he is just talking about the base image? | 18:34 |
| amrith | dougshelley66 ++ | 18:34 |
| peterstac | ok | 18:34 |
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| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:35 |
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| amrith | that's called a smooth transition ... | 18:35 |
| amrith | anyone got anything? | 18:36 |
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| amrith | ... going once ... | 18:37 |
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| amrith | ... going once more ... | 18:38 |
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| amrith | Thanks everybody! | 18:38 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 18:38:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-11-16-17.59.html | 18:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-11-16-17.59.txt | 18:38 |
| peterstac | thx! | 18:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-11-16-17.59.log.html | 18:38 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 20:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| diltram | o/ | 20:00 |
| diltram | hey people :) | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | Hi there. We will see how many people get the DST right this week. I had a few messages after the meeting last wekk | 20:00 |
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| m-greene | Hi | 20:01 |
| diltram | hahaha :P | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Let's jump right in | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| diltram | yeah it's interesting, I moved my meeting in calendar to remember that :P | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| diltram | hey | 20:01 |
| johnsom | PTG registration is open | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, I put it in Outlook as a UTC timezone so it will switch for me | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 20:02 |
| johnsom | There are limited slots, so if you want to go you should sign up soon. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | DIB switch to xenial / systemd support | 20:02 |
| johnsom | diskimage-builder (DIB) changed the default ubuntu release to xenial recently. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | This impacted us with the amphora images, so I did a patch that merged last night (thanks cores) that enables support for systemd base images. | 20:03 |
| m-greene | Will the Octavia team definitely represent at PTG? Some other off-cycle meetup? | 20:04 |
| johnsom | There may be some impact to folks trying to run stable branch versions of Octavia as DIB does not do stable branches. More thinking on this is needed. | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | m-greene That is a good question. I have approval for travel to PTG, but I think we should talk as a team about that | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Let's discuss in open discussion. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Last announcement I have is we have a new domain for the sonar gate: octavia.cloud | 20:05 |
| johnsom | The octavia.io expired and the old owner did not want to renew. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | octavia.io was expensive to have, so I switched to a more cost effective octavia.cloud | 20:07 |
| diltram | great :) | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Ping me if you see any issues with the sonar gate. | 20:07 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:07 | |
| johnsom | We still have a number of open merge patches to review: | 20:08 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364655/ | 20:08 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265065/ | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360794/ | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382147/ | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Also, vendors, please review the flavor support spec: | 20:09 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392485/ | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Otherwise I was working on the xenial/systemd patch. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Also of note, the OpenStack Ansible spec for Octavia support merged. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Any other progress reports or bugs to highlight? | 20:10 |
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| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:11 | |
| diltram | so there is still 373 tickets for PTG | 20:11 |
| diltram | I have partial allowance for going | 20:11 |
| johnsom | So, PTG, non-PTG mid-cycle, or both. Any thoughts/comments? | 20:11 |
| m-greene | Hard or soft deadline on reviewing ‘flavor support spec’? | 20:12 |
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| johnsom | Well, the Ocata-1 milestone is this week, but that spec is not tied to a milestone. | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | It is really getting it reviewed so folks can confidently start work | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | I really would like m-greene and kobis to comment on it | 20:14 |
| johnsom | As I know you all were interested in the topic | 20:14 |
| m-greene | re: PTG, if there is strong cross-team collaboration or co-design necessary, then PTG makes sense. If Octavia is mostly independent, then we have more flexibility. Are there any expectations for reporting roll-up into neutron (stadium or otherwise)? | 20:14 |
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| m-greene | Someone on my team should be reviewing. She just finished a broader analysis/comparison on neutron flavor and/or agent extension. | 20:15 |
| diltram | m-greene: we're not independent, we're using neutron, nova, barbican, keystone, glance, ... | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I expect there will be discussions about out spin-out of neutron at the PTG. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | We do have cross team discussions, but we have had those recently at the summit, so... | 20:16 |
| johnsom | The real question is do we want to have a mid-cycle for Ocata and if so, should it be the PTG? | 20:16 |
| diltram | probably | 20:17 |
| diltram | it's really short release | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Hahaha, helpful | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Yes, it is a short release. | 20:17 |
| m-greene | I understand that, was thinking more along the lines of dependencies on other projects to build new octavia functionality (do we need those other teams to also build new things) | 20:17 |
| johnsom | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 20:17 |
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| johnsom | m-greene Not really, the only ask we have against other projects right now is with barbican/keystone around the ACLs. This was a topic at the summit. | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | I am thinking that I will go to the PTG. If nothing else to see how it goes and answer any questions that come up. | 20:19 |
| diltram | +1 | 20:20 |
| diltram | like we discussed that a few weeks ago, we need to find out how it's gonna work | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Yep | 20:21 |
| johnsom | So, let me know if you are coming as well at a future meeting. | 20:21 |
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| johnsom | I suspect that I might have a hard time doing additional travel for a mid-cycle beyond the PTG. But I haven't asked either. | 20:22 |
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| diltram | yeah, I have the same feeling that it may be problematic to get money for that | 20:23 |
| m-greene | Not making a committment, but I have socialized up my chain the possiblity of hosting an octavia meetup at the F5 office (Boulder/Lousivlle, Colorado). There is interest, but I’d need some help figuring out expectations, possible participants, etc. We have 2 large conf rooms with a foldable wall that could accommodate 2 dozen-ish. | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | Ok, thanks for the info m-greene. We can also typically host at Rackspace in San Antonio as well. | 20:24 |
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| johnsom | Though it might be nice to go to Boulder for a change... grin | 20:24 |
| diltram | +1 | 20:24 |
| diltram | first of all we need to find out who will be interested in going | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | Historically we alternated between San Antonio and Seattle, but our Seattle options are no longer options. | 20:25 |
| diltram | and the if we're planning to organize where and when | 20:25 |
| m-greene | Go to PTG in Feb to see how it plays out, then look into Boulder/San Antontio the meetup after that? | 20:25 |
| diltram | probably it's the best option | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that is probably the best plan | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Any other open discussion topics for today? | 20:27 |
| m-greene | the mountains are nice here in August :) | 20:27 |
| m-greene | -1 heat | 20:27 |
| johnsom | The beer is better there too.... | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Grin | 20:27 |
| m-greene | I make my own.. but still true | 20:27 |
| dougwig | i think most of who's left is rax, right? | 20:27 |
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| johnsom | Well, technically I am the only active Rackspace person at the moment, though blogan will be coming back for a bit as well | 20:28 |
| * blogan wakes up | 20:28 | |
| blogan | yes! | 20:28 |
| diltram | plus from OSIC it's me and two additional people for now | 20:29 |
| blogan | dougwig: i need to get with you | 20:29 |
| dougwig | blogan: aye. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Yeah, there are a few Intel folks in San Antonio as well. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | blogan dougwig +1 on working on the shim | 20:30 |
| diltram | so the easiest will be to host this in Rax to get all of this people | 20:30 |
| dougwig | sounds like. | 20:30 |
| johnsom | True, but I think m-greene has a team that is going to be envolved as well, so maybe it balances. | 20:31 |
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| diltram | yep | 20:31 |
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| diltram | like we said, PTG and later we can talk again about mid-cycle | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Yep, I think that is a good plan this round. | 20:31 |
| blogan | isn't PTG meant to replace midcycles? | 20:32 |
| * blogan probably missed that discussion | 20:32 | |
| diltram | nope | 20:32 |
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| diltram | it's additionall time to cooperated between projects | 20:32 |
| blogan | the first 2 days yeah | 20:32 |
| johnsom | Well, yes that was the original idea, but if that will work in practice is a different question | 20:32 |
| blogan | i should educate myself on it more before i make my assumptions known :) | 20:33 |
| diltram | it's the first one also | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Plus, as we just discussed, travel for everyone vs travel for some of the team may make the PTG less attractive | 20:33 |
| diltram | so we need to remember that it may be a fail :P | 20:33 |
| blogan | diltram: so pessimistic, thats a sign you're an openstack veteran | 20:34 |
| diltram | hahaha, thx :) | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Hahaha | 20:34 |
| diltram | also limitation of 500 people is limiting access | 20:34 |
| johnsom | blogan there is an FAQ: | 20:34 |
| johnsom | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_faq | 20:34 |
| blogan | i have to read? what is this the 2000s!?!? | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Sigh | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Just ignore it and work on the driver shim.... Grin | 20:35 |
| blogan | aye aye captain! | 20:35 |
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| johnsom | Ok, any other discussion items today? | 20:36 |
| diltram | just one from me | 20:36 |
| m-greene | none from me | 20:36 |
| diltram | start reviewing the code :P | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Yes, yes, now that the scenario gates are running again. | 20:36 |
| dougwig | ptg was supposed to be the split of the design summit and replace midcycles. it ended up managing to just add a third trip. | 20:37 |
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| diltram | ok I have one questin | 20:39 |
| johnsom | diltram go | 20:40 |
| diltram | what we're doing with this gunicorn? | 20:40 |
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| johnsom | Good question | 20:40 |
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| diltram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386758/ | 20:41 |
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| diltram | we know that werkzeug is not working for us | 20:41 |
| johnsom | It's actually this: | 20:41 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386790/ | 20:41 |
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| diltram | but we can just drop that patchset and manage gunicorn version in DIB on our own | 20:42 |
| johnsom | dougwig I see Adam asked about this last week. Is it time to poke the bear again? | 20:42 |
| johnsom | We technically could bypass this as it is used in the amphora image, but having it officially in the requirements is a good thing | 20:43 |
| diltram | especially that we already discussed about moving out amphora code to seperate repo, then this will be more must have than right now | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Yeah. I am willing to give this a little more time with the requirements folks | 20:45 |
| johnsom | It's not dead there yet (there are two +2s) | 20:46 |
| diltram | but probably we should ping them (ML, review)? | 20:46 |
| diltram | I know | 20:46 |
| diltram | because of that I would like to see this merged | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Yeah, me too. I will wait until tomorrow (one week from Adam's last ping) and post a comment | 20:46 |
| diltram | ok | 20:47 |
| johnsom | And/or see if I can track down the -1 | 20:47 |
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| johnsom | Any other topics for today? | 20:47 |
| diltram | I'm good for today :) | 20:48 |
| johnsom | Going once.... | 20:48 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks folks, have a good rest of your day! | 20:48 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 20:48:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-11-16-20.00.html | 20:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-11-16-20.00.txt | 20:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-11-16-20.00.log.html | 20:49 |
| diltram | ok, thx and CU in next week :) | 20:49 |
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