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| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 29 13:03:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:03 |
| lbeliveau | o/ | 13:03 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 13:03 |
| moshele | hi | 13:03 |
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| moshele | sorry for being late | 13:03 |
| edand | hi | 13:04 |
| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:04 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: you revert patch is not merged yet to tempest | 13:04 |
| moshele | it has only one +2 | 13:04 |
| lbeliveau | yes, will try to ping cores today | 13:05 |
| lbeliveau | does the cold migration one has been integrated in mellanox CI ? | 13:05 |
| moshele | I think so | 13:05 |
| lbeliveau | I don't get mellanox CI to review my patches anymore | 13:05 |
| moshele | which patches? | 13:05 |
| lbeliveau | this one for e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370374/ | 13:06 |
| moshele | lennyb can you check this ^ | 13:06 |
| lennyb | moshele: yeap | 13:07 |
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| moshele | anything else on CI? | 13:07 |
| lbeliveau | wznoinsk: any update on the intel CIs ? | 13:07 |
| moshele | wznoinsk: I saw you are commenting on neutron as well, right? | 13:08 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 13:08 |
| moshele | hi pkoniszewski | 13:08 |
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| moshele | let move on | 13:09 |
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| moshele | #topic Patches for Subteam Review | 13:09 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: can you update all your new patches in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda | 13:10 |
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| lbeliveau | there is two new patches for fixing race conditions on migrate and migrate revert | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370374/ | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400995/ | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | that needs review | 13:10 |
| moshele | ok I will take a look this week | 13:11 |
| moshele | any other patches? | 13:11 |
| lbeliveau | not from me | 13:11 |
| wznoinsk | sry, lennyb moshele , no sriov ci in our lab yet and yes we vote on neutron but had a rough week and only now getting back to normal day | 13:11 |
| moshele | wznoinsk: thanks for the update :) | 13:12 |
| moshele | pkoniszewski: any progress with the live migration patches? | 13:13 |
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| moshele | pkoniszewski: we have multi node setup with the live migration patches. I want to test it to see what are the probelms | 13:14 |
| pkoniszewski | sorry | 13:14 |
| pkoniszewski | i haven't fixed the race condition | 13:14 |
| moshele | but is it even working? | 13:14 |
| pkoniszewski | I need to ask cores about their opinion on the fix that Chris provided | 13:14 |
| pkoniszewski | it is working | 13:15 |
| pkoniszewski | apart from this race condition that is a more like a corner case | 13:15 |
| moshele | with macvtap port? | 13:15 |
| moshele | or just NUMA? | 13:15 |
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| pkoniszewski | oh, i'm right now still focusing on resource tracking and NUMA | 13:15 |
| pkoniszewski | no macvtap ports yet | 13:15 |
| pkoniszewski | i need to do some more testing with NUMA anyway | 13:16 |
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| moshele | pkoniszewski: I see | 13:16 |
| moshele | I would say let merge the basic functionality if it working and open bugs on the race condition | 13:17 |
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| pkoniszewski | that might be a good way to move forward | 13:17 |
| moshele | that what we did with the cold migration, we still have races there | 13:17 |
| pkoniszewski | given how long this patch is up for review | 13:17 |
| pkoniszewski | and it covers a lot of cases | 13:17 |
| moshele | I am not core, but I will +1 if the basic is working :) | 13:18 |
| lbeliveau | anyway if you try to fix too many things in a patch, cores will most likely ask you to split it | 13:18 |
| moshele | yes that right | 13:18 |
| pkoniszewski | yeah, but Jay already said that it doesn't make sense to split this patch as he couldn't even find how the patch can be split | 13:19 |
| pkoniszewski | so the resource tracking part works, that's sure | 13:19 |
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| pkoniszewski | I still have some issue with setting up SR-IOV, I will do some more NUMA testing | 13:20 |
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| moshele | pkoniszewski: if it work with NUMA that good start, we can fix the other later | 13:20 |
| pkoniszewski | by setting up SR-IOV I mean that it's my env issue | 13:20 |
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| pkoniszewski | not the patch | 13:20 |
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| lbeliveau | pkoniszewski: let me know, I can help with that | 13:20 |
| pkoniszewski | ok, thanks, once I check all the stuff I can I will ask for help | 13:21 |
| moshele | pkoniszewski: can you rebase the patch and add TODO comment on the race conditions | 13:21 |
| pkoniszewski | sure | 13:21 |
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| moshele | so after the new patchest let review it and if it ready I will ask jaypipes to review it again | 13:23 |
| pkoniszewski | okay | 13:23 |
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| moshele | #topic Specs for Review | 13:23 |
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| moshele | none of the specs got approved for SR-IOV | 13:24 |
| moshele | except the whitelist regex | 13:24 |
| lbeliveau | :( | 13:24 |
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| moshele | so I was thinking to do a bi weekly meeting | 13:24 |
| jaypipes | moshele, pkoniszewski: morning guys. | 13:25 |
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| moshele | hi jaypipes | 13:25 |
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| jaypipes | moshele, pkoniszewski: which reviews do you need most urgently that I have not yet done? | 13:25 |
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| jaypipes | moshele, pkoniszewski: as you may know, dan berrange is no longer working on Nova, so we need more than ever to get our PCI/SRIOV review load under control and maintain a prioritized list of patches in this team | 13:26 |
| moshele | jaypipes: so first we need a subteam review but we are talking about the live migration calim patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ | 13:27 |
| moshele | jaypipes: yes I saw it on the ML | 13:27 |
| jaypipes | moshele: ok, I can review that (though it needs a rebase looks like) | 13:28 |
| moshele | jaypipes: I don't think will have so match patches for review most of the pci spec rejected | 13:28 |
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| moshele | jaypipes: it not argent I want the sub team to review it first | 13:29 |
| jaypipes | moshele: even though pci specs were rejected, I still very much will need your reviews on the PCI and SRIOV-related nested resource providers work. | 13:29 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: there are still bug fixes in the pipeline | 13:29 |
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| pkoniszewski | yeah, I noticed that, I will try to focus some more on PCI/SRIOV related stuff | 13:29 |
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| moshele | jaypipes: yes of course | 13:30 |
| lbeliveau | jaypipes: when do you think you'll have something ready for review ? | 13:30 |
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| jaypipes | lbeliveau: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nested-resource-providers :) | 13:30 |
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| jaypipes | lbeliveau: and spec is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386710/ | 13:31 |
| lbeliveau | jaypipes: ok will have a look | 13:31 |
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| jaypipes | lbeliveau: will be pushing a patch today that adds child providers for PFs and NUMA nodes. | 13:31 |
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| moshele | jaypipes: are you planing to do the change that the compute node will use report them as nested resources? is this for this cycle? | 13:32 |
| jaypipes | moshele: yes and yes | 13:32 |
| moshele | jaypipes: ok cool | 13:33 |
| moshele | anyone have anything to else add? | 13:33 |
| sfinucan | nothing from me | 13:33 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 13:34:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-29-13.03.html | 13:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-29-13.03.txt | 13:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-29-13.03.log.html | 13:34 |
| moshele | bye everyone | 13:34 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 29 14:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | * review past actions items | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
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| adarazs | o/ | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:01 |
| arxcruz | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:01 |
| shardy | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:01 |
| michapma_alt | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | hello folks! | 14:01 |
| akrivoka | hello \o | 14:01 |
| ccamacho | Hey guys! | 14:01 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:01 |
| shardy | hey all | 14:01 |
| marios | o/ | 14:01 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:01 |
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| thrash | o/ | 14:01 |
| trown | o/ | 14:01 |
| florianf | o/ | 14:01 |
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| trown | happy tuesday | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic review past actions items | 14:02 |
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| gfidente | hello | 14:02 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:02 |
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| fultonj | o/ | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM & jaosorior to report httpd issue on launchpad: I think the problem was solved | 14:02 |
| yolanda | o/ | 14:02 |
| pradk | o/ | 14:02 |
| d0ugal | Hey | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to communicate on ocata release schedule: done, I sent an email on openstack-dev | 14:02 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | EmilienM to proceed to last Liberty release and sync with tonyb about tripleo liberty EOL: done, I talked with tonyb last week | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | matbu lets use oooq in tripleo-ci for periodics M to N jobs | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | matbu: any update on this one? ^ | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | same for "matbu build upgrade jobs for N to O" | 14:03 |
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| matbu | oops sorry hello all | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | team to review slagle's work on 3nodes job https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397441/ (and dependencies): not done, folks please review his patches | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | team to reviews specs targetted for ocata | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | and EmilienM to communicate on ocata specs freeze (end of o-2): done in the same email about ocata release schedule | 14:04 |
| matbu | EmilienM: no from my side, i think it was depending on a sshnaidm review | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | matbu: which one? | 14:04 |
| matbu | i was mostly working on composable upgrade and debuging current upgrade failure in centos infra | 14:05 |
| sshnaidm | matbu, the job is merged now, I think you can try with it | 14:05 |
| weshay | o/ | 14:05 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 14:05 |
| matbu | sshnaidm: ack thanks, i'll start to work on this week end | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #action matbu to build upgrade jobs for N to O | 14:05 |
| sshnaidm | matbu, ok, feel free to ask for anything there | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #action matbu lets use oooq in tripleo-ci for periodics M to N jobs | 14:06 |
| matbu | sshnaidm: yep thx | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:06 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: go ahead | 14:06 |
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| sshnaidm | I'll copy my topic: | 14:06 |
| sshnaidm | in process of transtion to quickstart we need more people in TripleO CI to review quickstart related patches. Right now the experimental oooq job is very untolerant to changes in both repos (quickstart and tripleo-ci) and requires a quick fixes to be merged urgently to work. With current time constraints we need more people involved in review and merge its patches in tripleo-ci repo. Volunteers? | 14:06 |
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| shardy | The untolerant to changes in both repos makes me nervous ;) | 14:07 |
| sshnaidm | shardy, it was related to new repo establishment - extras, so... | 14:07 |
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| shardy | sshnaidm: sure, I appreciate landing the patches will help stablize things, I just wanted to clarify that's the only problem vs underlying fragility | 14:08 |
| sshnaidm | thanks a lot to jaosorior trown and EmilienM, but we need a bit more people involved in review/merges | 14:08 |
| trown | untolerant I think is poor wording... it is not gated | 14:08 |
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| shadower | sorry I'm late, hey | 14:08 |
| trown | anything that is not gated is fragile | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | trown: +1 | 14:09 |
| sshnaidm | trown, sure, sorry for my english :) | 14:09 |
| trown | sshnaidm: ya no worries, was not trying to call you out, just trying to clarify :) | 14:09 |
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| shardy | Ok coo, provided that's the only issue, thanks for clarifying | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: thanks for reporting this issue | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | I also have a quick off item, about our squads | 14:10 |
| sshnaidm | maybe it worth to give rights for tripleo-ci for oooq jobs to current quickstart cores..? | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | I noticed some people already put their names, which is awesome! | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-squads | 14:10 |
| trown | sshnaidm: that would really only add 2 extra +2 :P | 14:10 |
| trown | sshnaidm: I think it will just be a bit bumpy while we get everything going | 14:11 |
| sshnaidm | trown, 5 is better than 3 | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | we need to continue with mission statements, feel free to contribute and give your feedback! | 14:11 |
| trown | I put up a rough draft for CI, but anyone feel free to modify | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | trown: thanks a lot | 14:12 |
| trown | also, for CI in particular I think it would be good to have a subteam meeting | 14:12 |
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| shardy | Do we really need mission statements? | 14:12 |
| sshnaidm | trown, +1 | 14:12 |
| shardy | e.g "Group of people focusing on TripleO deployed in containers" seems pretty clear to me | 14:12 |
| d0ugal | shardy: I guess it is useful for new people to know which squad to join. | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | shardy: I thought it would be great to document the scope of every team | 14:12 |
| d0ugal | shardy: otherwise one word is a bit vague :) | 14:13 |
| shardy | mission - "really, really focus on deploying TripleO, in containers, yeah!" | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | trown: for meetings, it will be up to the squads. If they need it or not. Nothing required here. | 14:13 |
| jaosorior | EmilienM: I'm unsure where the work that I do ends up in those squads | 14:13 |
| shardy | Ok, if folks find it useful then fair enough | 14:13 |
| trown | containers may be a special case in that regard | 14:13 |
| trown | it is pretty clear what falls under containers | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | shardy: we can rename mission statement to scope of work done by the squad | 14:13 |
| shardy | trown: I guess I see all of them as pretty clear, but sure if folks want to add more detail beyond the description to enumerate the scope, that's fine by me | 14:14 |
| d0ugal | I am trying to understand how the Liaison works. How are they picked? When do they speak with the PTL? | 14:14 |
| trown | CI though, I think it is important to distinguish that the scope is CI/dev tooling | 14:14 |
| matbu | trown: i think it could be good to define CI/dev tooling then :) | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | d0ugal: they are picked when someone volunteer to do it in the squad. "When do they speak with PTL"? I don't know yet | 14:15 |
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| shardy | d0ugal: I see it as someone willing to be the point of contact | 14:16 |
| marios | d0ugal: i guess each team will work slightly differently. it could be rotated for example, or whatever works for the team | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | matbu: I thought we agreed on it during the Summit? | 14:16 |
| d0ugal | cool, thanks | 14:16 |
| d0ugal | I was trying to determine how much time it would take before I put my name down :) | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | marios: ++ for rotations | 14:16 |
| trown | Also, if the squad has a seperate meeting, the Liaison would be responsible for reporting to this meeting? | 14:16 |
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| matbu | EmilienM: i mean not the tool itself, but does that mean that the CI squad will create/debug/improve all periodic and gating jobs for all the scopes ? | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | trown: it's an option, yes. Reporting the blockers to PTL so we can take actions with other teams? | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | matbu: it is something we need to discuss, in this etherpad or mailing-list. Feel free to start it! | 14:18 |
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| matbu | EmilienM: ack, i will add comments in the etherpad itself | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | d0ugal: it shouldn't take much time as there is no specific action for now, it's just a communication thing for now I guess | 14:19 |
| d0ugal | EmilienM: cool, sounds good. I copied trown and added a note next to my name :) | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | also, I think it's possible for someone to be part of multiple squads in the same time | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | ie; if you work on both upgrades and CI tooling/system, put your name in both squads would make sense | 14:20 |
| weshay | ya | 14:20 |
| d0ugal | yeah, I am in workflows and CLI/UI | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | right now, we're really in alpha version so things will evolve with time :-) | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | I'm moving to next topic, if any question or feedback, let us know | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-2 | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | 4 New, 4 Incomplete, 1 Invalid, 13 Confirmed, 48 Triaged, 34 In Progress | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | it seems we have some critical bugs still open and not fixed, I'll have a look at them | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | I'm also doing triage but we have so much new bugs every day in launchpad, it's hard to keep up | 14:23 |
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| EmilienM | I would quickly remind folks to make auto triage (status, priority, assignment and release target). I would help people who make launchpad triage | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | do we have outstanding bugs this week that we need to discuss? | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | seems like no | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:25 |
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| EmilienM | reminder: ocata-2 release is in 2 weeks | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | we don't have any pending release at this time | 14:27 |
| beagles | "stable backport" reminded me of https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1640812 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640812 in tripleo "Network connectivity lost on node reboot" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Brent Eagles (beagles) | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | we can go to next topic | 14:27 |
| beagles | the fix we have for this is to os-net-config and there isn't a stable branch for mitaka | 14:27 |
| beagles | yet it is flagged for mitaka backport potential | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | beagles: ah, you need to submit a release in RDO itself afik | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | beagles: probably in rdo.yaml layout, if you're not familiar with it, let me know. We just need to change the tag for mitaka | 14:28 |
| beagles | EmilienM, ahhh... okay. Yeah, not familiar at all :) | 14:28 |
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| EmilienM | beagles: https://github.com/redhat-openstack/rdoinfo/blob/master/rdo.yml#L936 | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:29 |
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| beagles | EmilienM, cool. thanks | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | on CI side, I'm working on scenarios, and we moved the templates/environments to THT | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | this week i'm working on helping people to add more coverage in the scenarios | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | if you have any question or need help on this thing, please let me know | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | also, sshnaidm is working on adding a oooq job for containers | 14:30 |
| shardy | I wanted to mention that getting upgrade CI coverage is going to be come critically imporant soon | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | flaper87, dprince ^ | 14:30 |
| weshay | +1 | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yes, +1. My hope is that matbu can make progress asap... | 14:31 |
| shardy | we've been working towards it for some time, but we need to prove the reimplemented upgrades for N->) | 14:31 |
| shardy | N->O I mean :) | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | but we haven't seen much progress lately on this topic | 14:31 |
| dprince | EmilienM: ack | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | matbu: do you think we can have the CI job before ocata-2 ? | 14:31 |
| shardy | matbu: can you help enumerate the remaining work, perhaps start a ML thread or etherpad? | 14:31 |
| matbu | shardy: for N to O ? | 14:32 |
| shardy | If we need to find more help we can do it, but atm I'm not clear exactly what we're blocked on | 14:32 |
| shardy | matbu: we need a way to test upgrades for all supported branches | 14:32 |
| matbu | shardy: well it depend on the branches | 14:32 |
| marios | matbu: i think we mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323750/ for starters but we'll need to plan working on a n->O too | 14:32 |
| matbu | shardy: for M to N we are blocked by the timeout | 14:32 |
| marios | matbu: s/we/emilien was referring to i think | 14:33 |
| shardy | matbu: right, so all branches are blocked by the timeout | 14:33 |
| matbu | shardy: for Mitaka branch, i guess we don't care about it (L to M i mean) | 14:33 |
| shardy | we need a solution (multinode?) to that before we can move forwards, right? | 14:33 |
| shardy | matbu: yup, we could start with a M->N upgrade, then add N->O | 14:33 |
| matbu | shardy: and for N to O, i 'm planning to start a WIP review depending on your prototype | 14:33 |
| shardy | but we need the basic proven process in place | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | yeah so M to N would be the first step, as we know it works | 14:34 |
| shardy | matbu: Yeah I guess we could go directly to the new model | 14:34 |
| matbu | shardy: afair, the mutlinode won't work with mitaka. so last week we decide to use oooq (at least for periodic jobs) | 14:34 |
| shardy | I'd have been happier if we had a green job with the old implementation, then switch over to the new approach | 14:34 |
| shardy | but that's probably more work e.g writing the special-case support for moving services under httpd | 14:35 |
| matbu | sshnaidm: we can make gating jobs with tripleo-ci and oooq ? | 14:35 |
| shardy | matbu: Ok, sounds like this will have to be done after we get the initial N->O upgrades working then | 14:35 |
| sshnaidm | matbu, I think so | 14:36 |
| shardy | matbu: perhaps we can start with a small subset of services, then add coverage as we implement full upgrade support | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yes, baby steps. | 14:36 |
| matbu | shardy: yes | 14:36 |
| shardy | e.g a multinode job which upgrades just keystone using the new upgrade patch (which can be broken up) | 14:36 |
| shardy | then we add things service by service | 14:36 |
| matbu | shardy: just depending on your review, then adding more and more services and HA | 14:36 |
| matbu | +1 | 14:36 |
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| shardy | I just posted that big patch as an example, we can easily break it up | 14:36 |
| shardy | Ok, that sounds like a good way forward, thanks! | 14:37 |
| matbu | shardy: EmilienM just a question about the upgrade proto | 14:37 |
| shardy | matbu: let me know if I can help getting that initial test in place - should I break up the patch to e.g do just keystone as a first step? | 14:37 |
| ccamacho | im finishing to locally wire up the major upgrade pacemaker scripts to a HA N -> O deployment, the thing is that im getting some unbound variables out and to fix/redeploy them takes some time | 14:37 |
| matbu | shardy: do we plan to landed it to ocata-2 ? | 14:37 |
| shardy | matbu: possibly - let me break up the patch and see if reviews happen | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | matbu: yes, it would be great | 14:38 |
| shardy | a passing CI job would probably help give folks confidence in the approach | 14:38 |
| matbu | shardy: k | 14:38 |
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| matbu | ccamacho: that's why i created pcs ansible module, it's more robust than the bash scripts i think | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | like shardy, we really need to make progress on this topic, even with a very few services | 14:38 |
| weshay | shardy +1 | 14:39 |
| matbu | shardy: btw i got a almost fully upgraded deployment with pacemaker , marios | 14:39 |
| marios | matbu: ++ had a quick first pass at those they look like a good idea to me | 14:39 |
| ccamacho | matbu yeahp, But I wanted to start with some working and then push it forward to your patch | 14:39 |
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| marios | matbu: i mean the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403397/ ansible module | 14:39 |
| matbu | marios: yep | 14:39 |
| shardy | matbu: great! Did you exclude the services that moved under httpd? | 14:39 |
| shardy | I've still not had time to figure out a generic fix to those | 14:40 |
| matbu | shardy: yep, i exclude some service | 14:40 |
| shardy | matbu: Ok, sounds good, thanks for the update | 14:40 |
| matbu | shardy: i wanted to see how handle pacemaker | 14:40 |
| matbu | and if it was working consistensly | 14:40 |
| matbu | shardy: marios btw i feel the approach really better for debug and for rerunning failling step | 14:41 |
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| matbu | shardy: but i was wondering to maybe split each playbook per steps ? | 14:41 |
| marios | matbu: are we getting better error output from ansible compared to bash you mean? plus yeah by definition the steps are more discrete | 14:41 |
| matbu | (maybe not the right place to discusss about that) | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | marios: no | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | err, matbu ^ | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | matbu: we thought we could use tags | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | matbu: rather, having a playbook per role | 14:42 |
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| matbu | EmilienM: yes but we will have a big huge playbook , harder to read than some small pieces of step | 14:42 |
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| shardy | matbu: I'd prefer to have one playbook and run it via --tags stepN | 14:43 |
| matbu | but it's just a personnal feeling :) | 14:43 |
| shardy | matbu: as that's exactly how we run it via heat, but open to discussion | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | maybe we can discuss about it later | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | outside the meeting I mean | 14:43 |
| shardy | yup | 14:43 |
| matbu | shardy: yep k | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | thx | 14:43 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yes | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | anything else about CI ? | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:44 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | nothing to be added on my side, except, keep reviewing it when you have cycles :) | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything to talk about specs this week? | 14:45 |
| EmilienM | quick reminder: ocata specs need to be merged before ocata-2 release | 14:45 |
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| owalsh | could I get a +W on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388162/ | 14:46 |
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| florianf | Something that came up on #tripleo before regaring spec reviews: Are sub project core reviewers supposed to 2+ specs related to their projects, even if the spec spans multiple projects? | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | owalsh: I'll approve it shortly if no more feedback | 14:46 |
| florianf | *regarding | 14:47 |
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| owalsh | EmilienM: thanks | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | florianf: I think it's up to reviewers to feel confortable or not to +2 or +1 | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | we have 10 min left, I'll open the discussion | 14:48 |
| florianf | OK, so the normal rule for sub org cors doesn't apply here (only +2 your own project's repos ) | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:48 |
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| EmilienM | if you have any question or feedback, please go ahead now | 14:49 |
| sshnaidm | I'd like you all to see the CI status page and to give your feedbacks/RFE, I'll write more detailed ML about it later: http://status-tripleoci.rhcloud.com/ | 14:49 |
| trown | ya, I think +2 spec related to a specialty is fine... we probably would not want to merge any spec that spanned multiple specialties without a representative from each group +2 though | 14:49 |
| florianf | trown: excellent, sounds good. | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: nice. I would try to merge tripleo.org/cistatus.html and your page | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | so we make things easier to find | 14:50 |
| * jpich wonders if that's worth an update to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/SpecReviews to be explicit about it | 14:50 | |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: your dashboard is really awesome | 14:50 |
| florianf | jpich: It probably is, just to clarify... | 14:50 |
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| EmilienM | jpich: it sounds like a good idea | 14:51 |
| jpich | florianf: I'll copy-paste some of the statements from the meeting there after | 14:51 |
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| jpich | Ok will do | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | jpich: maybe move https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/SpecReviews to tripleo-specs as a policy? | 14:51 |
| jpich | Yeah I was thinking about it, it would be easier to find | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | so we can have a group discussion and leave Wiki (FYI OpenStack wiki will die one day) | 14:51 |
| jpich | Everything does one day | 14:52 |
| jpich | I'll take the policy patch as an action item :) | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | #action jpich to propose a policy for TripleO Spec Reviews | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | jpich: thanks a lot | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else for this week? | 14:52 |
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| jpich | No problems | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | thanks everyone, keep rocking! see you on #tripleo | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 14:53:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-29-14.00.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-29-14.00.txt | 14:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-29-14.00.log.html | 14:53 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 29 15:05:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:05 |
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| pcarver | hello | 15:05 |
| bobmel | hi | 15:05 |
| tmorin | hi bobmel, doude, eon`, lewo, pcarver, timirnich, matrohon ! :) | 15:05 |
| tmorin | hi :) | 15:05 |
| doude | hi | 15:05 |
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| matrohon | hi | 15:06 |
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| tmorin | so, what do we have on our agenda today ?... | 15:07 |
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| bobmel | stadium compliance I guess | 15:08 |
| tmorin | yes, that's one item | 15:08 |
| tmorin | another item is the scenario test you are working on bobmel | 15:08 |
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| bobmel | yes | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: anything else you see ? | 15:08 |
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| matrohon | doude wanted to discuss a patch we introduce in newton | 15:09 |
| doude | ha yes | 15:09 |
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| matrohon | the one to prevent attachment of network already attached to routers | 15:10 |
| tmorin | ok, let's add this to our agenda as well | 15:10 |
| tmorin | let's start ? | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | #topic neutron stadium compliance | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | the scorecard is frozen until pike cycle | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | so what matters is the summary in the WIP change for overall stadium health | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389397/ | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | we are doing ok | 15:11 |
| tmorin | html render: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/97/389397/12/check/gate-neutron-specs-docs-ubuntu-xenial/23199f8//doc/build/html/specs/stadium/ocata.html | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | the items we are still missing are: | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | scenario test --> this is in progress and the next item on our agenda | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | cli osc binding -> we now need to submit the client binding in python-neutronclient | 15:13 |
| tmorin | doude, would you be fine pursuing your work on osc by doing that ? | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | and last thing is API ref documentation, the work is well in progress (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390196/ by pcarver) | 15:14 |
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| doude | tmorin: yes I can | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | great ! | 15:14 |
| pcarver | I saw that there were a some review comments. I'll update the commit soon. I took a bit of vacation over the US holiday. | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | all this needs to be done, but it seems we will stay in the stadium | 15:15 |
| tmorin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389397/ has a "*" besides project that will have to re-apply for pike, and bgpvpn is not in the list | 15:15 |
| bobmel | good! | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | yes :) | 15:16 |
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| doude | great! | 15:17 |
| tmorin | part of the work to stay in the stadium in the next months will consist in following, and even better, contributing to things moving from neutron to neutron-lib | 15:17 |
| pcarver | tmorin: one topic we may still have to address is the API definition, particularly the sub-resource map | 15:17 |
| tmorin | we've had breakage last week, and we hope next things will happen more smoothly | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: what is the exact issue with the sub-resource map ? | 15:18 |
| pcarver | You might want to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394244 It doesn't affect us directly, but I think the idea is to acheive consistency | 15:18 |
| tmorin | pcarver: is it the network_association_id being misrepresented as a body parameter instead of a path parameter ? | 15:18 |
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| pcarver | No, I'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394244/18/neutron_lib/api/definitions/trunk.py in particular | 15:19 |
| pcarver | The constants RESOURCE_NAME and COLLECTION_NAME vs TRUNK and TRUNKS | 15:20 |
| pcarver | In bgpvpn.py I've got a bunch more constants | 15:20 |
| tmorin | pcarver: it just means that your WIP would have to do something similar, right ? | 15:20 |
| pcarver | I'm not sure whether to replace BGPVPN with RESOURCE_NAME and BGPVPNS with COLLECTION_NAME | 15:20 |
| pcarver | If I do, then what do I do with the other constants, just leave them? | 15:21 |
| pcarver | there is SUB_PORTS = 'sub_ports' in trunk.py, so it might be ok | 15:21 |
| tmorin | for everyone to follow, pcarver is talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395585/ | 15:21 |
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| tmorin | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390196/ | 15:22 |
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| pcarver | but I need to give it some more thought to make sure I fully understand where the standard for API definitions is going so that we're consistent with other extensions | 15:22 |
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| pcarver | There are also some test cases added in 394244 that I think are expected to apply to all API definitions, so I'll need to make sure that we pass those | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: I don't see yet what would have to change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395585 if the constants in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390196/9/neutron_lib/api/definitions/bgpvpn.py are modified to follow what is done in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394244/18/neutron_lib/api/definitions/trunk.py | 15:24 |
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| pcarver | it may be minor | 15:25 |
| tmorin | pcarver: yes, from an helicopter view, I don't see anything problematic | 15:26 |
| pcarver | one thing may be the use of an accessor for RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | yes, but this is easy, right ? | 15:26 |
| pcarver | I agree, no major problems. Just minor tweaking to ensure consistency. | 15:26 |
| tmorin | yep | 15:26 |
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| pcarver | But I don't have an example to follow for SUB_RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP so I'm not sure if we're consistent or not | 15:27 |
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| pcarver | and if we're the first using SUB_RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP I may need tests as in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394244/18/neutron_lib/tests/unit/api/test_attributes.py | 15:28 |
| matrohon | lbass was using sub resources | 15:29 |
| tmorin | pcarver: if an accessor method is used for resource_attribute_map, then it will make sense to define an accessor for the sub_resource_map as well | 15:29 |
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| matrohon | I was looking at their code while coding sub_resources | 15:29 |
| tmorin | I don't know if lbaas already submitted an API definition in neutron-lib | 15:29 |
| bobmel | perhaps ask what approach to take on the dev list | 15:30 |
| pcarver | I haven't seen one for LBaaS yet | 15:30 |
| bobmel | or in the next neutron drivers irc | 15:30 |
| pcarver | bobmel: I can go ahead and ask | 15:30 |
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| tmorin | asking will not hurt, and in parallel, pcarver, you can add an accessor for the resource map and an accessor for the sub resource map | 15:32 |
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| pcarver | tmorin: I added the accessor for RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP but haven't pushed a new patch set. I'll add one for SUB_RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP and address all the other review comments then push it all at once | 15:34 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: +1 | 15:34 |
| tmorin | pcarver: I added a few other comments today btw | 15:34 |
| tmorin | next item ? | 15:34 |
| tmorin | #topic tempest scenario test | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | bobmel: do you want to give us an update ? | 15:35 |
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| bobmel | sure | 15:36 |
| bobmel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396967 | 15:36 |
| bobmel | I’ve tried to do the scenario test without the use of fip (and router) for VM access (i.e., the pinging to verify connectivity) | 15:36 |
| bobmel | Basically, create a neutron port for the host and wire it up. | 15:36 |
| bobmel | It works on my server but not in gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-bgpvpn-bagpipe-ubuntu-xenial. | 15:37 |
| bobmel | I have not figured out why. | 15:37 |
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| bobmel | Since this has taken some time my thinking now is perhaps that I should just do as your original suggestion and use fip. | 15:37 |
| tmorin | bobmel: I haven't found either what prevents the tempest host from accessing the VM | 15:38 |
| tmorin | bobmel: the issue is that your special port/route setup is cleaned up, so we can't use worlddump to see how the devstack host tries to route toward the VM (http://logs.openstack.org/67/396967/17/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-bgpvpn-bagpipe-ubuntu-xenial/ec5ebd7/logs/worlddump-2016-11-29-151751.txt.gz) | 15:38 |
| tmorin | bobmel: perhaps you could try with the cleanup commands commented out | 15:39 |
| tmorin | bobmel: and if we don't succeed, fallback to the approach based on floating IPs | 15:39 |
| bobmel | So if I do the FIP approach, do I need to have a separate network that the router and one of the VMs connect to? | 15:39 |
| tmorin | bobmel: no | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | bobmel: since newton release, it now should work to have a network associated to a BGPVPN and the network having a router interface | 15:40 |
| tmorin | tmorin: it's not a setup that I've played with though | 15:40 |
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| bobmel | Ok, do I need to create the router port separately and tell neutron to attach the router into that or is it enough to just attach by subnet? | 15:41 |
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| tmorin | bobmel: both attach by port and attach by subnet should work | 15:42 |
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| bobmel | Ok | 15:43 |
| tmorin | bagpipe dirver is listening to the ADD_ROUTER_INTERFACE event, that matrohon fixed so that it's triggered in both cases | 15:43 |
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| bobmel | So what I'll do is to update the patch so it uses a FIP. | 15:44 |
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| bobmel | I'll also continue to look into why the "devstack plugged into neutron network" approach does not work. I'm interested to understand why. | 15:45 |
| bobmel | Any other suggestions/feedback? | 15:46 |
| tmorin | nope | 15:47 |
| tmorin | to understand why your current approach does not work in the gate, I think we need to know, after your special setup, how would the devstack host route to 10.100.x.y | 15:47 |
| tmorin | adding some "ip route" loggin would be a way | 15:48 |
| tmorin | skipping the cleanup so that worlddump exposes this information, would be another way | 15:48 |
| bobmel | You may see several revisions from me as my local runs do not seem to be identical to the ones in gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-bgpvpn-bagpipe-ubuntu-xenial | 15:48 |
| tmorin | that's fine ! :) | 15:48 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:48 |
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| tmorin | #topic discuss about preventing attachment of network already attached to routers | 15:49 |
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| tmorin | doude, what do you wanted to discuss ? | 15:49 |
| bobmel | Well, the devstack host gets an interface on 10.100.x.y with the setup I do so it is directly connected | 15:49 |
| doude | I'm not sure bgpvpn service driver should take care of association constraints. | 15:49 |
| doude | I'm not sure bgpvpn service driver should take care of association constraints. | 15:49 |
| bobmel | But let's move on (these are details). | 15:49 |
| doude | oops | 15:49 |
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| doude | I think that should be the responsability to SDN controller. | 15:49 |
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| doude | Perhaps not for all cases, that check could/should stay in service driver for drivers which use the neutron DB as that constraints could also be a db constraints but for db less drivers, the service driver must not check it. | 15:50 |
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| doude | That prevents to double checked it, one time on the service driver side and another one on the SDN controller | 15:51 |
| tmorin | doude: but for something that is an API consistency question, it would be surprising, in the case of a no-DB driver, to not have any check on neutron side, wouldn't it ? | 15:52 |
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| doude | no, for exemple, for the neutron core driver if you don't use the neutron db, neutron does not ceck if network's subnet overlaps | 15:53 |
| doude | s/ceck/check | 15:53 |
| doude | or if subnet attached to a router overlaps | 15:53 |
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| tmorin | doude: I don't have a strong feeling on this question to be honest | 15:53 |
| doude | I don't have much concern to check it from service driver but I think it's useless because in anycase the check must also be done on the controller side | 15:54 |
| bobmel | These assoc contraints, are they driver dependent? Or are there some constraints that are common and some are not? | 15:55 |
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| doude | and checks like https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/master/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/plugin.py#L91 is costly | 15:55 |
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| doude | I think that constraints can be different between driver. Perhaps, a controller can be more precise and check if rt of a bgpvpn does not averlaps with other and permit router association with a network event if they have bgpvpn associated | 15:57 |
| doude | s/event/even/ | 15:57 |
| tmorin | bobmel: this check we are discussing is not driver specific, but there may exists other backend specific constraints | 15:57 |
| bobmel | tmorin, doude: thanks for the clarification | 15:58 |
| doude | but the bgpvpn api spec clearly forbidden it for the moment http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/api.html#association-constraints | 15:58 |
| matrohon | actually we implemented it in the plugin because of our spec, that specifies this behavior | 15:58 |
| matrohon | doude +1 | 15:58 |
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| matrohon | so moving it under the resp of the will lead us to an update of the spec | 15:58 |
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| doude | in the contrail case, the controller must also make that check as it also exposes that bgpvpn resource on its api and could be use by another third party than networking-bgpvpn | 16:00 |
| doude | matrohon: +1 probably we need to discuss that spec constraints | 16:00 |
| matrohon | doude : same for other sdn controller probably | 16:00 |
| doude | yes | 16:00 |
| tmorin | we have to wrap up | 16:00 |
| tmorin | my conclusion to this: I'm open to revisiting where we enforce this constraint | 16:01 |
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| matrohon | same for me | 16:01 |
| tmorin | ok! | 16:01 |
| tmorin | thanks everyone! | 16:01 |
| doude | ok | 16:01 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| matrohon | thanks tmorin | 16:01 |
| doude | bye | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 16:01:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-11-29-15.05.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-11-29-15.05.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-11-29-15.05.log.html | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 29 16:01:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-11-29_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:02 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:02 |
| tonanhngo | Ton Ngo | 16:02 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:02 |
| yatin | Yatin Karel | 16:02 |
| randallburt | o/ | 16:02 |
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| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:02 |
| rpothier | Rob Pothier | 16:02 |
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| Drago_ | o/ | 16:03 |
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| jasond | o/ | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | welcome jvgrant tonanhngo hongbin randallburt yatin strigazi rpothier Drago_ and jasond | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | We usually skip meetings during key holiday weeks, as we did last week. December 25th is a major holiday, and we have a meeting that may be scheduled for Dec 27th. | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | I wanted to get a sense of how many of us will be at work that day, and whether it makes sense to plan to skip that one. | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts? | 16:05 |
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| Drago_ | Skip | 16:05 |
| randallburt | Skip | 16:05 |
| strigazi | skip | 16:05 |
| tonanhngo | Skip | 16:05 |
| yatin | Skip | 16:05 |
| jvgrant | skip | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed we will skip our meeting on 2016-12-27 | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | thanks! | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | any announcements form team members? | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | s/form/from/ | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) ACTION: strigazi to start a ML thread about cluster-drivers repo | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: did we open this thread as planned? | 16:08 |
| strigazi | DONE, fetching the link | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | thanks. | 16:08 |
| strigazi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107613.html | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | perfect, thanks. | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | We have 4 essential blueprints to touch on | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | and then we can expand to additional work items | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/ocata Ocata Blueprints | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nodegroups (Drago) | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | this is (1/4) | 16:10 |
| Drago_ | The spec is ready for feedback | 16:10 |
| Drago_ | jvgrant has finished all of the TODOs in the spec and removed the WIP tag | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/352734 Nodegroup Spec | 16:11 |
| Drago_ | We have decided to push the Heat changes into its own blueprint | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | looks like tonanhngo and hongbin have asked for revisions | 16:11 |
| jvgrant | the general idea is in the nodegroup spec but all the heat details will be in the separate spec | 16:12 |
| Drago_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups-heat | 16:12 |
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| adrian_otto | looks like some of Ton's remarks still need to be addressed. Is that assessment fair? | 16:12 |
| jvgrant | adrain_otto: i'll go over those today and update the review | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | ok, do we have any big gaps to clear to merge the spec? | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | if not, we can advance to the next status item. I just want to give this one fair time for discussion, if needed. | 16:13 |
| Drago_ | No, only small things | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks. | 16:14 |
| jvgrant | maybe? It looks like from the template version review that there might be some questions around how the templates work now | 16:14 |
| Drago_ | It would help if others would give their feedback for it | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | next is (2/4): | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/template-versioning Template Versioning | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | jvgrant: remarks? | 16:14 |
| jvgrant | Under review. Lots of discussion. Mostly on how the versioning will be used by the upgrade spec and the changes from node groups | 16:15 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/392327 WIP Spec for Template Versioning | 16:15 |
| jvgrant | the change to the data structure will be important to support both. | 16:15 |
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| tonanhngo | It would help if we have a description of how the specs depends on each other, or a high level view showing how things are divided up | 16:16 |
| tonanhngo | not sure where to put this. | 16:16 |
| Drago1 | We need to take time today to discuss this spec | 16:16 |
| hongbin | i think we need an etherpad to work everything out | 16:16 |
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| tonanhngo | one way is for each spec to descripe the expectation from other specs | 16:17 |
| jvgrant | agreed, there seemed to be some confusion on the interactions between each spec | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | I can create one if we don't already have one | 16:17 |
| yatin | I too tried to understand idea but got confused with flatten attributes/template versions/cluster upgrades/node groups | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | they are all related, so that confusion is understandable. | 16:18 |
| Drago1 | Do we need a super-spec | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | We could make a "2.0" blueprint to link to each spec | 16:18 |
| jvgrant | that is why they were broken out into separate specs to help, but we lose the big picture some | 16:18 |
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| jvgrant | i think an etherpad showing the connections will help | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's start with an etherpad that helps relate them | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | one moment | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-magnum-next-api Next API Etherpad | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so we have the start of that there | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | please fill that in with concerns. We can spend 10 minutes now on this | 16:21 |
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| Drago1 | tonanhngo: I really liked your concept of having attributes be basically dedicated to specific commands | 16:31 |
| tonanhngo | Drago1: I think it helps the users also to understand and manage the attributes | 16:31 |
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| Drago1 | jvgrant: ^ | 16:32 |
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| strigazi | ^^ where is this comment? | 16:32 |
| Drago1 | strigazi: sec | 16:32 |
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| Drago1 | strigazi: tonanhngo's most recent comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392327/ | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I think we have the start of an etherpad there that we can use to weave the overall story together | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | we don't need to perfect it this minute, but I would like to get the concerns listed so we can be sure to address them all | 16:33 |
| strigazi | I think we try to do the biggest set changes in the smallest cycle so far :) | 16:34 |
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| tonanhngo | Some part of the etherpad can go into a release note or something to explain to users the concept in V2 API | 16:34 |
| jvgrant | strigazi: agreed, that is why we need to be careful about doing too much. I know there is a lot we could do with these new features but we should do the iteratively | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | yatin: was this etherpad enough to clear up your concerns, or are there ideas that we need to tighten up? | 16:36 |
| yatin | Ethepad would be a great plus | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's advance to the next status item unless we need further discussion on this today | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | agreed? | 16:37 |
| Drago1 | No | 16:37 |
| jvgrant | just one question i wanted to make sure was clear | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we can stay on this | 16:38 |
| jvgrant | does everyone understand how templates work in the new version? | 16:38 |
| Drago1 | Well, I guess we can move on but I'd like to come back to template versioning and cluster/clustertemplate attribute handling | 16:38 |
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| jvgrant | previously our ClusterTemplates had separate info that got pulled into even the driver | 16:38 |
| hongbin | jvgrant: i think you can clarify them in the etherpad | 16:39 |
| hongbin | jvgrant: under the "operations" session | 16:39 |
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| jvgrant | now they will just be a reference that has the same attributes as cluster and used for ease of use for users | 16:39 |
| jvgrant | hongbin: ok, will do | 16:40 |
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| hongbin | jvgrant: i think you can update the "data model" session as well (add the template version tables there) | 16:41 |
| jvgrant | hongbin: ok, good idea | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | jvgrant: can you look at line 32 and see if the bracketed wording makes sense. I'm struggling to articulate the summary of that. | 16:42 |
| hongbin | then, i will explain why i don't think it is a good idea to design the data model in that way | 16:42 |
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| yatin | jvgrant: This was the same impression i got when looked flatten attributes but after reading template version things started getting confused, i will revisit again the spec and etherpad. | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we are running low on time, so let's touch on the other two essential blueprints now, and enter open discussion. We can revisit this there as well. | 16:43 |
| yatin | adrian_otto: Ok | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | item (3/4) | 16:43 |
| Drago1 | jvgrant, adrian_otto: It's awfully nodegroup-centric | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes Flatten Attributes (strigazi) | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | this one is still marked as New. | 16:44 |
| Drago1 | Spec has been merged | 16:44 |
| Drago1 | Thanks all for reviewing | 16:44 |
| strigazi | I have done good progress I'll submit soon for final reviewing | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/393094 Flatten Attributes Spec | 16:45 |
| strigazi | The changes concern only the data model, the functionality remains the same | 16:45 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so marked the definition as Approved | 16:46 |
| strigazi | thanks | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | and I marked it as Started | 16:46 |
| strigazi | one thing | 16:47 |
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| strigazi | this change modifies the two major tables in our db | 16:47 |
| strigazi | and we don't have tests to do validations | 16:48 |
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| strigazi | like pre and post modification tests | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | should we add those as work items? | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | seems reasonable | 16:48 |
| strigazi | I think this is a separate task, not sure if I can pull it off by myself easily | 16:49 |
| Drago1 | strigazi: Are you talking about something like the grenade gate? | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | well, we can at least describe the desired result | 16:49 |
| strigazi | eg https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/tests/unit/db/sqlalchemy/test_migrations.py | 16:50 |
| Drago1 | Okay, will look | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | ok, anything more on this status item? | 16:50 |
| strigazi | no | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | last one (4/4) is: | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe Secure Central Data store , etcd (yatin) | 16:51 |
| yatin | Submitted 1st patch for review: https://review.openstack.org/403501 | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | ok | 16:54 |
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| strigazi | fyi, swarm-mode doesn't need etcd and let me ask, should I push a v2 swarm in a new dir or on the current driver? | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | great progress, thanks yatin! | 16:54 |
| yatin | Ricardo has some suggestions, if others can look over it then i can give it a go and proceed with same approach for kubernetes as well. | 16:54 |
| yatin | strigazi: Yes i checked a bp is there for swarm-mode | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | ok, that concludes status on essential blueprints. Any other work items we can touch on during open discussion | 16:55 |
| strigazi | yes on what? we will have two swarm drivers? | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:55 |
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| vijendar1 | could you guys review this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391537/ | 16:56 |
| vijendar1 | please provide your feedback/comments | 16:56 |
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| yatin | strigazi: Yes for swarm mode don't require etcd, | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | strigazi: yes, that's right. | 16:58 |
| yatin | strigazi: I think it would be a separate cluster driver | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | it should be a separate driver | 16:59 |
| strigazi | ok, thanks | 16:59 |
| strigazi | that was my question | 16:59 |
| yatin | strigazi: System got too slow, sorry for that\ | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: did you have a moment to look at https://review.openstack.org/391537 (vijendar1) | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | I'm happy to work through your concerns. | 17:00 |
| hongbin | will get back to the review (sorry, i am focusing on the template version spec right now) | 17:00 |
| adrian_otto | our next meeting will be 2016-12-06 at 1600 UTC. Thanks everyone for attending! | 17:00 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 29 19:00:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: hello | 19:02 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-29 | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | let's wait for a few minutes | 19:03 |
| luzC | o/ | 19:03 |
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| catherineD | luzC: hello did you get the meeting agenda link? | 19:05 |
| catherineD | alright let's start .. | 19:06 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-29 | 19:06 |
| luzC | yes, thank you | 19:07 |
| catherineD | #topic Planning to update RefStack website with code in master | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | currently our target date is December 09 (Friday) ... | 19:07 |
| catherineD | Seems like this is a good time for website update as the activities are very light | 19:08 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:09 |
| catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:09 |
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| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403020/ (Show team and repo badges on README ) and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403017/ (Show team and repo badges on README ) | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | o/ | 19:10 |
| catherineD | I see some discussion in the patches on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:fpercoco%2540redhat.com+status:open | 19:10 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko_: Hi ( meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-29 ) | 19:11 |
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| catherineD | so for the above 2 patches I want to wait to see how the discussion going for the other teams | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: Thx! | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | any other opinion on these 2 patches? | 19:13 |
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| sslypushenko_ | why not) | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | yea it is not a big deal for us ... we can merge these two patches anytime | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko_ | agreed) | 19:16 |
| catherineD | yup ... | 19:16 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:16 |
| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403937/ (Remove registration decline message on approved vendor.) | 19:16 |
| catherineD | This patch is to make sure that the reason added when foundation decline a registratio request earlier is removed when the vendor is eventually got approved ... | 19:18 |
| catherineD | I should have updated this in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398633/ ... | 19:18 |
| catherineD | this is a bug | 19:18 |
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| catherineD | everyone please review | 19:19 |
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| sslypushenko_ | done | 19:19 |
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| pvaneck | +1 workflow'd | 19:20 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:20 |
| catherineD | # https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404060/ (Modify the invalid url) | 19:20 |
| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404060/ (Modify the invalid url) | 19:20 |
| pvaneck | looks like we dont need that patch | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | I -1 this one because the URL shown is for illustration purpose not meant for a valid URL | 19:21 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: I think so | 19:21 |
| sslypushenko_ | yeap catherineD +1 to our opinion | 19:22 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko_ | *your) | 19:22 |
| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390881/ (Replace DefCore with Interop Working Group) | 19:22 |
| catherineD | luzC: I think that is still WIP right? | 19:22 |
| luzC | yes, last week we decided to wait until defcore changes are done... | 19:23 |
| luzC | specially related to the 'defcore guideline' | 19:23 |
| luzC | right? | 19:23 |
| catherineD | luzC: yup | 19:24 |
| luzC | I'll add a comment | 19:24 |
| catherineD | luzC: thx | 19:25 |
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| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396700/ (WIP Authenticate user for with public key and signature) | 19:25 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: I think this is still WIP ... | 19:25 |
| sslypushenko_ | yes :( | 19:25 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: BTW thank you so much for working on this much needed feature ... | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko_ | It still need some more work on it | 19:26 |
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| sslypushenko_ | It is my pleasure | 19:26 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko_: I understand .. this is not an easy patch | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko_ | and kind of my techdept | 19:27 |
| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395426/ (Assert style fix) | 19:27 |
| catherineD | I guess for this one we will wait for the submitter's response | 19:27 |
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| sslypushenko_ | +1 | 19:28 |
| luzC | +1 | 19:28 |
| catherineD | That is all the topics ... I guess the next goal for us is to update the website on Dec 09 | 19:28 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussions | 19:29 |
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| catherineD | anything comes to mind? | 19:29 |
| luzC | no for me | 19:30 |
| pvaneck | good here | 19:30 |
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| sslypushenko_ | same | 19:31 |
| catherineD | :-) | 19:31 |
| catherineD | that means we get 30 back to work hard:-) | 19:32 |
| catherineD | alright ... thank you all! bye now! | 19:32 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 19:32:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-29-19.00.html | 19:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-29-19.00.txt | 19:32 |
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