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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 19 15:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:00 |
| dasm | o/ | 15:00 |
| electrocucaracha | hola | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Upgrades-Subteam Agenda | 15:01 |
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| ihrachys | ^ I updated the page a bit to include some useful links tracking our initiatives | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:01 | |
| ihrachys | we are heading into Christmas time. We obviously won't have a meeting on Dec 26. | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | and neither Jan 2 that is US holiday | 15:02 |
| dolphm | \o | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | meaning, next meeting is Jan 9 | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | I will send a corresponding email after the meeting | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | any objections? | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | hi dolphm! | 15:02 |
| electrocucaracha | +1 | 15:03 |
| dolphm | ihrachys: hello! | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | korzen: any comments from your tower? :) | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | ok I guess Artur is busy with Christmas preparation :) | 15:04 |
| electrocucaracha | he is on vacation, isn't it? | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | I dunno | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | in other news, we cut off Ocata-2 the prev week. | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | Ocata-3 is late January | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | so we have like 4 weeks of work before freezes start to kick in | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | #topic Partial Multinode Grenade | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Partial Multinode Grenade (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:05 | |
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| ihrachys | ok as some of you may know, we had linuxbridge multinode job failing for quite some time | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | it seems like we have found and solved the last issue with it with a revert: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345428/ | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | and it now passes | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | so now it's a matter of making it into check queue, and voting | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | the first step is https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:linuxbridge-multinode-grenade | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | we will collect stats on how it works in check queue for a bit before making it voting | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | armax also mentioned that he would be glad to see the job converted into HA one, as well as other linuxbridge jobs we have | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | but that will happen on its own schedule | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | so with it, we have all basic setups covered for our loose definion of rolling upgrade | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | now, for a more strict one (that implies no API downtime) | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | the spec describing the approach landed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386685/ | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | also, korzen started investigation on getting a job that would indeed validate mixed neutron-server versions | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | afaiu he should have talked to dolphm on the matter | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | dolphm: since korzen is not here, maybe you can give a brief intro on where the infra stands on that matter | 15:10 |
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| dolphm | (sorry, i'm actually in another meeting as well!) | 15:11 |
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| ihrachys | dolphm: oh sorry, nevermind. we then collect the info async to the meeting. ;) | 15:12 |
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| ihrachys | ok so just to update others, I think infra and other folks are still working on foundation to be able to set such a job. I lack details though. | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Object implementation (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:13 | |
| ihrachys | the prev week, we landed some useful bits, specifically... | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | (looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db) | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | validating UUIDField: https://review.openstack.org/393150 | 15:14 |
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| ihrachys | ^ make sure all new patches use the new type! | 15:14 |
| electrocucaracha | \o/ | 15:14 |
| manjeets | o/ | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | vlan allocation OVO: https://review.openstack.org/356660 | 15:14 |
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| electrocucaracha | also delete_objects method, isn't it? | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | ^ integration will need to wait I believe until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398873/ lands. | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | RouterRoute is integrated: https://review.openstack.org/367071 | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | Allocation and Endpoint also landed, will also need to wait for Ann's patch: https://review.openstack.org/396327 | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: yes, delete_objects landed too: https://review.openstack.org/403832 so make sure you consider it for new patches that integrate new objects | 15:16 |
| dasanind | ihrachys: that's right | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | also in test framework, we now have get_random_object_fields() method: https://review.openstack.org/407007 | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | there was also a non-deterministic failure in unit tests introduced by vxlan OVO fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411897/ | 15:17 |
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| dasanind | I cherry picked my changes on Ann 's patch | 15:17 |
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| ihrachys | dasanind: yeah. I think Ann's patch is almost ready in general, but it needs some more safety tweaks to avoid more 3party breakages. | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | I hope she will find time for respin this week | 15:18 |
| dasanind | ihrachys: sounds good | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | now to patches on review | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | one thing worth noting is korzen's patch adding new DictOfMiscValuesField type: https://review.openstack.org/411830 | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | this should hopefully solve issues with vif_details field in port, and configurations field in Agent | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | turned out that oslo.versionedojbects DictOfStrings is not really suitable for our cases because our dicts have non-string values | 15:20 |
| ihrachys | and the library itself does not ship a dict type that would map to our need | 15:20 |
| ihrachys | we would need to have a patch on top of the one with the new type that would use it, to see that it indeed helps. | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | is there any patch on top of it already? I think korzen was going to rebase on of them | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | ok I think the patch that korzen was going to rebase is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407868/ | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | and it's still not rebased | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | maybe someone can take that rebase while korzen is off for vacation? | 15:22 |
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| dasanind | I can try to rebase that | 15:23 |
| electrocucaracha | so, that means that ndahiwade should abandon the oslo patch? | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | dasanind: cool, thanks | 15:23 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I think the oslo patch is wrong, korzen also mentioned that does not make much sense | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I think it's more like oslo.versionedobjects type does not fit us, not that there is a bug there to be fixed | 15:23 |
| electrocucaracha | korzen: submitted some changes in the morning | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: so maybe also closing the reported bug as Invalid? | 15:23 |
| electrocucaracha | Got it, I can do it | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: cool! | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | #action dasanind to rebase https://review.openstack.org/407868 on top of https://review.openstack.org/411830 | 15:25 |
| dasanind | ack | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | #action electrocucaracha to abandon oslo.versionedobjects patch and bug modifying DictOfStringsField | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | looking for patches ready to merge... | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306685/ has a tiny comment from rossella_s that blocks the merge for the patch. you think you can respin it? | 15:27 |
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| electrocucaracha | Sure | 15:28 |
| sindhu | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358845/ is ready, but it is dependent on Ann's patch | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | sindhu: yeah. it will land once Ann's underlying patch does | 15:28 |
| electrocucaracha | dasanind: it seems like kong_ consider agent in his patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411830/2/neutron/objects/agent.py | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: mmm, nice. | 15:29 |
| electrocucaracha | s/kong_/korzen | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: but it does not show integration, so it's hard to say if it makes it better | 15:29 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: agree, definitely we'll need the dasanind patch | 15:30 |
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| ihrachys | at this point, it would be worth checking the new type on one of integrated objects to see if it's of any help. | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | ok cool, I think other patches are usual business, and a matter of reviews | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | #topic Other patches on review | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other patches on review (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:32 | |
| ihrachys | one thing that I proposed lately is to use UpgradeImpact commit message tag more widely for any runtime dep changes | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402004/ | 15:32 |
| * manjeets is really happy with timely reviews on his tiny patches :) | 15:32 | |
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| ihrachys | manjeets: my pleasure | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | we will start to track all patches marked with the tag during the weeklies | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22UpgradeImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | full disclosure: I haven't actually checked the list yet, so I have no specifics, but just a PSA we will pay attention to the list from now on :) | 15:33 |
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| ihrachys | we may also need to capture patches with release notes that contain 'upgrade' section, I will think about a gerrit query for that matter | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to find a way to capture all patches on review with upgrade release notes | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | of some relevance to upgrades, I will mention a patch I landed lately to update MTUs on neutron ports: https://review.openstack.org/405532 that will allow to change MTU configuration options and see update propagated to nodes with restarted agents without the need to rebind ports | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | that is often useful on major system upgrade | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | any other patches that you think can be interesting for the team? | 15:36 |
| manjeets | ihrachys, is there any patch already with such kind of release notes ? | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | manjeets: grep 'upgrade:' -r releasenotes/ shows 32 hits in the tree | 15:37 |
| manjeets | okay thanks | 15:38 |
| sshank | ihrachys: Regarding the segment_id in port binding level, we keep it for now right? | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | example being https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329481/22/releasenotes/notes/enable-sorting-pagination-754390289d3311fa.yaml | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | sshank: why? I was thinking we will explore fixing the Level object to store its synthetic field? | 15:38 |
| manjeets | ihrachys, got it | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | has the attempt failed? | 15:38 |
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| sshank | ihrachys: from what I observed, network segment has a foreign key which looks at segment_id in level object. And since, the segment_id is not present, level is not created. | 15:41 |
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| ihrachys | sshank: I think storing values is not implemented in base class, only loading, so if we need store to happen on parent object .create() as in this case, we need to implement the logic ourselves | 15:42 |
| ihrachys | sshank: we should also fix the db test for the object that turned out is not triggered | 15:42 |
| sshank | ihrachys: So we will have to override the create method in port binding level ovo class to take care of this? | 15:43 |
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| ihrachys | yes. I think we already do it in several other places too. it's a common pattern that we somehow missed during object review. | 15:44 |
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| ihrachys | in general, each synthetic field should support loading and storing | 15:44 |
| ihrachys | loading is from base class and thru foreign keys | 15:44 |
| ihrachys | but storing requires some code | 15:44 |
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| ihrachys | we could probably come up with some smart way to generalize it into base class layer | 15:44 |
| ihrachys | so that it's automatic | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | but that's another story | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | we would need rossella_s to write some more magic for that ;) | 15:45 |
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| sshank | Okay. | 15:45 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, :p | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | ok let's move on | 15:46 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 15:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:46 | |
| ihrachys | I see no topics in the wiki page so unless you are quick, we will call it a day in a minute :) | 15:46 |
| ihrachys | to recap, we will meet again Jan 9th | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | happy holidays to those who celebrate, and happy vacation for those who don't ;) | 15:47 |
| manjeets | happy holidays sub neutrinos | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | ok thanks everyone! keep it up! | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 19 15:48:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-12-19-15.00.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-12-19-15.00.txt | 15:48 |
| dasanind | happy holidays and thank you | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-12-19-15.00.log.html | 15:48 |
| sindhu | thanks, bye! | 15:48 |
| sshank | Thanks bye. | 15:48 |
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| * redrobot wonders if there's a Barbican meeting today? | 20:03 | |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 19 20:06:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:06 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:06 |
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| dane-fichter | present | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I think Dave may be out today | 20:07 |
| redrobot | but we do have an agenda: | 20:07 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:07 |
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| redrobot | ok let's get started | 20:09 |
| redrobot | #topic Storing Fernet keys in Barbican | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | Who's topic is this? | 20:10 |
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| breton | mine | 20:10 |
| redrobot | kfarr's topic maybe? | 20:10 |
| redrobot | oh cool | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | hi breton ! | 20:10 |
| breton | o/ | 20:10 |
| breton | i work on implementing fernet keys backends in keystone | 20:11 |
| breton | and was wondering whether i could use barbican for that | 20:11 |
| * lbragstad hands breton #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ocata/fernet-key-store.html | 20:11 | |
| breton | there is one thing that stops us from using barbican -- in order to make a query to it we need a token | 20:12 |
| breton | lbragstad: thank you | 20:12 |
| lbragstad | breton anytime :) | 20:12 |
| redrobot | I think I've had hallway conversations about this topic before | 20:13 |
| breton | so, can we do something on barbican's side to skip token validation for this case? | 20:13 |
| breton | yep | 20:13 |
| breton | i talked to some of you at the summit | 20:13 |
| breton | (i don't know who, sorry) | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | basically we need to be able to have a different auth middleware for non-token access to Barbican | 20:16 |
| redrobot | I think maybe doing cert-based auth might work | 20:17 |
| redrobot | like a middlware that can do x.509 auth and skip the token middlware if x.509 checks out | 20:17 |
| breton | we have something like this in keystone | 20:17 |
| breton | unfortunatelly, nobody probably uses it. | 20:18 |
| redrobot | hehe | 20:18 |
| redrobot | I think there may be some more use cases for us | 20:19 |
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| redrobot | since other project now have to have a service user to get keystone tokens to talk to us | 20:19 |
| redrobot | *projects | 20:19 |
| breton | what do you think about new api in paste, which would not be protected by authtoken middleware? | 20:20 |
| breton | because now keystonemiddleware is drop-in basically | 20:20 |
| redrobot | what do you mean by "new api"? | 20:21 |
| breton | paste pipeline | 20:22 |
| breton | something like | 20:23 |
| breton | [pipeline:barbican-api-keystone] | 20:23 |
| breton | pipeline = cors http_proxy_to_wsgi our_x509_middleware context apiapp | 20:23 |
| breton | * [pipeline:barbican-api-keystone_x509] | 20:24 |
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| breton | and serve it on /some_new_api/ | 20:24 |
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| redrobot | personally, I would not like to add any new routes to Barbican. A fernet key is just an encryption key that can be managed with the existing API. I think it would be more interesting to make the current api work with either a cert or a token. | 20:25 |
| redrobot | although, to be honest, I haven't spent a whole lot of time thinking about x.509 auth | 20:27 |
| redrobot | the data model we have now requires a project ID, so we'd need a way to translate a cert into a project id | 20:27 |
| breton | oh. | 20:28 |
| breton | the whole thing looks like barbican is supposed to store user data rather than openstack's data. | 20:30 |
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| redrobot | well, i think the idea was that the openstack data (or undercloud secrets) or whatever could be saved as its own tenant | 20:31 |
| redrobot | which is fine for most projects since we can verify their identity with keystone ;) | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | definitely sounds like we need more discussions about this. maybe at the PTG? | 20:33 |
| breton | sounds good | 20:33 |
| redrobot | I have a feeling there's a lot more to x.509 auth that we might need to do | 20:34 |
| redrobot | like cert revocation, rotation, etc | 20:34 |
| breton | i agree | 20:34 |
| redrobot | I've added the topic to our PTG etherpad | 20:36 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-barbican-pike | 20:36 |
| * redrobot crosses fingers he'll get to go to Atlanta | 20:36 | |
| redrobot | we can also revisit the topic in a future meeting | 20:36 |
| redrobot | maybe take some time to think about what an x.509 auth middleware would look like | 20:37 |
| redrobot | so we don't have to wait until the PTG | 20:37 |
| breton | ok | 20:38 |
| redrobot | any other comments on this before we move on? | 20:38 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:39 |
| redrobot | #topic Code review requests | 20:39 |
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| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403604/ | 20:39 |
| dane-fichter | I also have a couple requests | 20:39 |
| redrobot | dane-fichter sure thing, links? | 20:40 |
| dane-fichter | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408278/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411478/ | 20:40 |
| dane-fichter | the barbican tempest plugin work needs review help | 20:40 |
| redrobot | dane-fichter ah yes, I've been meaning to look at that | 20:40 |
| dane-fichter | and if anyone knows where koderer is, getting his attention would be appreciated | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | I was wondering about the client layer | 20:41 |
| dane-fichter | yeah that's the first patch | 20:41 |
| dane-fichter | implements the key manager client | 20:41 |
| redrobot | haven't looked at it yet, but was the client copy/pasted from our existing tests or is it new or ? | 20:41 |
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| dane-fichter | It is new. | 20:42 |
| redrobot | i see | 20:42 |
| redrobot | I'm a little apprehensive about having to maintain separate clients like that | 20:43 |
| dane-fichter | if you want tempest tests, you need a service client | 20:43 |
| redrobot | understood. but we also have a thin client abstraction that is currently used for our functional tests | 20:44 |
| redrobot | and also the thick client (python-barbicanclient) | 20:44 |
| dane-fichter | you explicitly can't use something like barbicanclient in a tempest plugin | 20:44 |
| dane-fichter | sort of defeats the point of testing the API. | 20:45 |
| dane-fichter | I think I looked into the functional test client and decided it was insufficient | 20:45 |
| redrobot | I think there may be a way to use a single codebase for the tempest tests in addition to the barbican functional tests | 20:46 |
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| redrobot | why not improve the functional test client instead of re-writing a new one? | 20:46 |
| dane-fichter | To be quite honest I don't really think there's any use in a functional test client | 20:46 |
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| redrobot | I think the functional test client and the tempest client serve the same purpose: to generate requests to be sent to the api | 20:47 |
| redrobot | while explicitly not using python-barbicanclient | 20:47 |
| dane-fichter | The tempest test suite w/ API tests actually increases Barbican's legitimacy | 20:47 |
| redrobot | sure, makes sense to me | 20:48 |
| redrobot | i'm not opposed to having tempest tests | 20:48 |
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| redrobot | I'm just concerned about the long term maintenance of thin api clients used for these tests | 20:48 |
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| redrobot | just trying to reduce code duplication :) | 20:49 |
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| redrobot | do any other projects re-use their tempest clients? | 20:50 |
| dane-fichter | I don't understand the question | 20:50 |
| redrobot | is it typical for other projects to have a dedicated client in tempest used only for tempest tests? do they also have a separate client they use in functional testing? | 20:51 |
| redrobot | just trying to understand how other folks are doing things | 20:51 |
| dane-fichter | yes it is typical to have a dedicated client in tempest JUST for tempest tests | 20:52 |
| dane-fichter | it is standard operating procedure | 20:52 |
| dane-fichter | check out the magum or ironic tempest plugins for comparison | 20:52 |
| redrobot | k, I'll try to make some time to look at those and the proposed barbican patches | 20:53 |
| redrobot | I was hoping to see koderer | 20:55 |
| redrobot | I was also working on getting an ID property added to our entities in the API | 20:55 |
| kfarr | I have a few review requests, too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412558/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409978/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400370/ | 20:57 |
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| redrobot | kfarr got them in just in time | 20:57 |
| kfarr | :D | 20:57 |
| redrobot | alright guys, we're all out of time here | 20:58 |
| redrobot | thanks for coming! | 20:58 |
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| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 19 20:59:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-12-19-20.06.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-12-19-20.06.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-12-19-20.06.log.html | 20:59 |
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| fungi | you're pre-pared | 22:00 |
| rcarrillocruz | o/ | 22:00 |
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| morgan | fungi: i... no words. | 22:01 |
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| jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 19 22:02:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2016/zuul.2016-12-12-22.03.html | 22:03 |
| auggy | o/ | 22:03 |
| jeblair | #topic Actions from last meeting | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:03 | |
| jeblair | jeblair send email announcing impending merge and release jeblair switch production to run from master after merge | 22:03 |
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| jeblair | er, that's two things | 22:03 |
| jeblair | both of them done! | 22:03 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 22:03 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Nodepool Zookeeper work | 22:04 |
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| phschwartz | afternoon | 22:04 |
| jeblair | we switched production to running the master branch | 22:04 |
| adam_g | o/ | 22:04 |
| jeblair | so changes related to maintaining the running zookeeper-based nodepool-builder should go there | 22:05 |
| fungi | and it's working quite well | 22:05 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 22:05 |
| jeblair | as well as changes preparing to make a release of it | 22:05 |
| Shrews | fungi: surprising! | 22:05 |
| jeblair | i wrote some doc changes last week to that end | 22:05 |
| * fungi is always surprised when computers work | 22:05 | |
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| mordred | computers work? | 22:06 |
| Shrews | speaking of that | 22:06 |
| Shrews | doc fix: https://review.openstack.org/411844 | 22:06 |
| Shrews | for builder docs | 22:06 |
| morgan | mordred: lies | 22:07 |
| jeblair | Shrews: thanks! | 22:07 |
| jeblair | i'm considering a revert of this change: https://review.openstack.org/396749 i'm working on that now | 22:07 |
| jeblair | i bring that up because it affects a config-file format change | 22:08 |
| jeblair | so i'd like to wait on that before we actually release | 22:08 |
| jeblair | we also may want to land some race-condition mitigating changes that we were just talking about in #zuul | 22:08 |
| jeblair | does anyone else have suggestions for what we might want to do before a release? | 22:09 |
| Shrews | test the single zk change? | 22:09 |
| jeblair | oh, i think that's in prod since friday? | 22:10 |
| fungi | what's the argument behind the revert? | 22:10 |
| Shrews | single zk connection, that is | 22:10 |
| Shrews | jeblair: oh? are the builders automatically updated? | 22:10 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i'll write extensively in the commit message, but short version: that change cost us the ability to have the same image with different flavors. i still want to rework that mapping (because it's *very* confusing), but i think 396749 may have been a step backwards -- *assuming* i can rework it the way i think i can. | 22:11 |
| jeblair | fungi: if i fail at the revert, then nevermind anything i'm saying. :) | 22:12 |
| jeblair | fungi: (i hope that at least justifies why i'm looking into it, even if, at this point, i haven't fully gotten it in hand) | 22:12 |
| fungi | okay, makes sense. thanks! | 22:13 |
| jeblair | Shrews: they have to be manually restarted, which was done on friday | 22:13 |
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| jeblair | i *think* with that change | 22:14 |
| jeblair | Shrews: when did it land? | 22:14 |
| Shrews | https://review.openstack.org/411360 | 22:14 |
| nibalizer | o/ | 22:14 |
| jeblair | 16 dec 20:27 is the restart time | 22:15 |
| jeblair | so about 3 hours after it landed | 22:15 |
| Shrews | jeblair: cool. glad it works :) | 22:15 |
| jeblair | yay! | 22:15 |
| Shrews | i wonder if the cpu load dropped | 22:15 |
| Shrews | but, that's for #zuul | 22:16 |
| jeblair | Shrews: i couldn't check right after i restarted because it was busy building/uploading. we should look. :) | 22:16 |
| jeblair | any other pre-release items? | 22:16 |
| jeblair | and perhaps we should not actually release until january | 22:17 |
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| jeblair | as a holiday gift to all our users :) | 22:17 |
| clarkb | ++ | 22:17 |
| clarkb | setuptools released again the other day and we are lucky the world didn't burn down around us | 22:18 |
| jeblair | (especially the ones who are running unpinned CD) | 22:18 |
| clarkb | (it only slightly burned down) | 22:18 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: as of last night, we are on master | 22:18 |
| jhesketh | Not releasing is the gift? :-) | 22:18 |
| jeblair | #agreed release nodepool master in early january | 22:19 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: yay! how's it workin out for you? | 22:19 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: exactly | 22:19 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: we think it working! | 22:19 |
| jhesketh | We are generous | 22:19 |
| jeblair | cool! | 22:19 |
| Shrews | nibalizer: how adventurous of you | 22:20 |
| fungi | no challenge getting zk set up then? | 22:20 |
| nibalizer | it was all jamielennox | 22:20 |
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| nibalizer | im mostly reporting this to say we won't be affected by a relaese | 22:20 |
| nibalizer | but I support the delay until january | 22:20 |
| Shrews | nibalizer: that sounds like a challenge to us | 22:20 |
| jamielennox | slightly burned on the removal or --no-images but an easy fix and it seems to be fine otherwise | 22:20 |
| * Shrews codes something to affect nibz | 22:21 | |
| jeblair | oh yeah, --no-images was sort of a desperate temporary move on our part; --no-deletes --no-launches and --no-webapp are all in the same boat and not long for this world. | 22:21 |
| * nibalizer codes something to effect Shrews | 22:21 | |
| fungi | --no-lunches | 22:22 |
| pabelanger | om | 22:23 |
| jeblair | and i guess one final thing -- the nodepool feature/zuulv3 branch is open for destructive work on the zuulv3 spec. we'll periodically merge master into it to keep it up to date with operational improvements there. | 22:23 |
| jamielennox | jeblair: i was thinking i'd have a crack at --no-deletes -> nodepool-deleter if no one else is? | 22:23 |
| jeblair | jamielennox: well, in reality i don't think those should be separate. rather the idea is to have multiple nodepool launchers (which also delete), possibly divided up by provider. | 22:24 |
| jamielennox | ok, i'll leave it | 22:26 |
| fungi | yeah, the delete worker split was done more because the old codebase made it a quick (if temporary) scaling solution | 22:26 |
| jeblair | splitting deletes like that is really just because our install has grown so large we couldn't handle it in one process, and it was a fairly easy thing to do | 22:26 |
| jeblair | fungi: right -- a quick solution, not a good one. ;) | 22:26 |
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| fungi | saved more significant refactors under pressure | 22:26 |
| jamielennox | it was mostly because our unit files had gotten weird, so i can wait for grander plans | 22:26 |
| jeblair | jamielennox: if you have less than 1k instances available to you, i would recommend ignoring the "--no-" options and run them all in one daemon | 22:27 |
| jeblair | let's move on to devstack-gate roles | 22:29 |
| jeblair | #topic #status updates: Devstack-gate roles refactoring | 22:29 |
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| jeblair | that was weird but you get the idea | 22:29 |
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| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: how's it going? | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | so | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | good progress | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | we landed a few merges last week | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401975/ | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402107/ | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402208/ | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | ... | 22:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | and nothing is burning | 22:30 |
| mordred | yay for lack of fire! | 22:31 |
| rcarrillocruz | special thanks to clarkb, for being extra vigilant on his reviews | 22:31 |
| rcarrillocruz | i've closed the sb tasks to those commits where appropiate | 22:31 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: the next round of these will be pushed up soon ya? I think you have one up now? | 22:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | and assigned to me the write localrc and some other ansible d-g refactor tasks that were unasssigned | 22:32 |
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| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: yeah, just waiting for the remove openvz thing to go thru, then i'll rebase the chain on it | 22:32 |
| clarkb | kk | 22:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | since that removal is in the middle of the refactor logic | 22:32 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: btw, i think if you add Story: and Task: commit message headers, gerrit will update the tasks automatically | 22:33 |
| fungi | yep, it should do | 22:33 |
| rcarrillocruz | ah nice, haven't tried, thanks | 22:33 |
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| jeblair | are third-party folks relying on the openvz support? | 22:34 |
| fungi | i don't think the openvz implementation for nova ever went anywhere, did it? | 22:35 |
| rcarrillocruz | i asked mriedem, and he agreed to the 3rd party guy that 'presumably' would be affected to just put that via a devstack plugin | 22:35 |
| fungi | wasn't devananda working on that in the long-long ago, in the beforetime? | 22:35 |
| clarkb | we notified them (they are the openvz devs) and they were fine with it | 22:35 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 22:35 |
| jeblair | cool | 22:35 |
| Shrews | fungi: that may have been me? | 22:35 |
| fungi | oh! indeed | 22:36 |
| Shrews | but i'm old and forget things | 22:36 |
| jeblair | anything else on this? | 22:37 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm good | 22:37 |
| jeblair | cool, thanks! | 22:38 |
| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 22:38 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Zuul test enablement | 22:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Zuul test enablement (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:38 | |
| jeblair | we enabled more tests! also deleted some that aren't necessary. | 22:38 |
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| jeblair | i believe adam_g is in progress on re-enabling the merger for all changes, before sending them to the launcher, mostly because we have a lot of functionality that depends on that. | 22:40 |
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| jeblair | it's come up in a few tests | 22:40 |
| adam_g | ive been making some slow progress the last couple of days reenabling a handful of merger tests. should hopefully have a couple things ready to review in the next couple of days | 22:41 |
| jeblair | adam_g: thanks | 22:42 |
| jeblair | anyone else on this topic? | 22:42 |
| adam_g | one thing ive noticed in working with v3 against v2.5, the testing upstream git repos no longer seem to get updated with merged changes in v3. | 22:42 |
| adam_g | i assume this is not an issue since merging is a function of external things, but maybe i haven't seen the test yet that might interrogate those repos | 22:43 |
| jeblair | adam_g: hrm, that sounds like a bug | 22:43 |
| adam_g | or is it worth fixing that in the v3 test suite? | 22:43 |
| jeblair | adam_g: i'm pretty sure there are some tests somewhere that rely on it | 22:43 |
| adam_g | i haven't hit any tests yet that actually assert anything about the state of the repos, instead using the builds JobDirs | 22:43 |
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| jeblair | adam_g: it's possible it's zuul-cloner tests that do that, or something... if so, they may need significant alteration for v3. | 22:44 |
| adam_g | jeblair: k, ill take a closer look when i get back to the merger stuff im hacking on | 22:45 |
| jeblair | adam_g: thanks! | 22:45 |
| jeblair | #topic Progress summary | 22:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress summary (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:46 | |
| jeblair | SpamapS: around? | 22:46 |
| jeblair | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/41 | 22:47 |
| adam_g | i think clint is offline today with a sick baby | 22:47 |
| jeblair | :( | 22:47 |
| jeblair | i updated the big pile of things in new last week | 22:47 |
| jeblair | so things are moved to backlog/todo -- there's some more things in todo if peopel want to grab them | 22:47 |
| jeblair | any other updates to the board? | 22:48 |
| jeblair | #topic Open discussion | 22:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:50 | |
| jeblair | shall we cancel next week's meeting? | 22:50 |
| Shrews | i do not plan to attend | 22:50 |
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| pabelanger | ya, will be traveling too | 22:50 |
| jhesketh | I'm on leave from the 22nd-> 2nd of Jan (just as a general FYI), but if there's a meeting I can turn up :-) | 22:50 |
| jeblair | i don't plan on attending or chairing :) | 22:50 |
| fungi | i don't expect to be around. other stuff going on that evening | 22:51 |
| jeblair | come to think of it, should we cancel jan 2 as well? | 22:51 |
| pabelanger | Since nodepool-builder has been working so well, I've started using it as my front-end to diskimage-builder. Would love to get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412160/ . Biggest reason for this, fast way to get YAML support for diskimage-builder | 22:51 |
| fungi | i am around then, but fine with not having a meeting if there's little interest | 22:52 |
| clarkb | I will not be around | 22:52 |
| clarkb | er for next week, not sure jan 2 | 22:52 |
| rcarrillocruz | i should be around the 2nd, but fine if we don't have meeting too | 22:52 |
| jeblair | okay, let's cancel next week, but leave jan 2 on the books. if it's short, it's short. :) | 22:52 |
| Shrews | pabelanger: couldn't you just set --upload-workers=0 and achieve the same thing? | 22:52 |
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| jhesketh | sounds good to me | 22:53 |
| rcarrillocruz | wfm | 22:53 |
| jeblair | #agreed there will be no dec 26, 2016 meeting | 22:53 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: Hmm, not sure. But, the biggest reason for 412160 is to avoid also adding the providers section | 22:53 |
| pabelanger | since I don't have any provider to upload too | 22:54 |
| pabelanger | otherwise, I need to add a fake provider | 22:54 |
| pabelanger | which is what I am doing today | 22:54 |
| morgan | jeblair: haha, i would not show up for a dec 26 meeting ;) | 22:54 |
| morgan | jeblair: good call ^_^ | 22:54 |
| morgan | jeblair: also, i will be missing jan 2, fwiw | 22:54 |
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| mordred | I agree with morgan | 22:56 |
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| jeblair | let's wrap this up | 22:57 |
| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 22:57 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 22:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 19 22:57:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2016/zuul.2016-12-19-22.02.html | 22:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2016/zuul.2016-12-19-22.02.txt | 22:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2016/zuul.2016-12-19-22.02.log.html | 22:57 |
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