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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 09:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #chair masahito | 09:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: masahito priteau | 09:00 |
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| priteau | Hello | 09:00 |
| masahito | hello | 09:00 |
| bertys | Hi | 09:01 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
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| GeraldK | hi | 09:01 |
| masahito | hi | 09:02 |
| priteau | pinging bauzas tejaswi janki | 09:02 |
| masahito | hkobayashi told me he is out of town this week. | 09:02 |
| priteau | OK | 09:02 |
| GeraldK | bertys and I are in a parallel meeting today. sorry, we will mainly listen today. | 09:03 |
| priteau | r-mibu is on #openstack-blazar but not here | 09:03 |
| priteau | anyone else? | 09:03 |
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| tejaswi | hi | 09:04 |
| priteau | Hi tejaswi | 09:04 |
| GeraldK | can you pls post the link to the agenda | 09:05 |
| priteau | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Blazar#Agenda_for_December_20_2016 | 09:05 |
| GeraldK | priteau: thanks | 09:05 |
| priteau | this is our agenda for today | 09:05 |
| priteau | Let's get started then | 09:05 |
| priteau | #topic Action items from last call | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:05 | |
| priteau | "Generate WSME doc for v2 API and check for differences with v1" | 09:06 |
| priteau | this was assigned to me | 09:06 |
| priteau | The WSME doc is generated with tox -e docs, and on each commit | 09:06 |
| priteau | e.g. http://docs-draft.openstack.org/66/406666/7/check/gate-blazar-docs-ubuntu-xenial/5ddde5e//doc/build/html/restapi/rest_api_v2.html | 09:07 |
| bauzas | yeah | 09:07 |
| priteau | while v1 is here: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/66/406666/7/check/gate-blazar-docs-ubuntu-xenial/5ddde5e//doc/build/html/restapi/rest_api_v1.0.html | 09:07 |
| bauzas | (sorry, I'm on a gate issue, very unlikely to be present here) | 09:07 |
| priteau | bauzas: no problem, thanks | 09:07 |
| priteau | I looked at the differences between the REST APIs | 09:07 |
| priteau | Just using the doc, I didn't have time to verify data sent on the wire | 09:08 |
| priteau | I identified these differences | 09:08 |
| priteau | V2: adds support for CRUD operations on "Before end" notifications (before_end_notification field in lease object) | 09:08 |
| priteau | v2: host extra capabilities may be handled differently: extra_capas in host object | 09:08 |
| priteau | v2: PUT requests have the ID as a parameter rather than in the URL? | 09:08 |
| priteau | The last one was unexpected | 09:09 |
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| priteau | but overall not huge differences | 09:10 |
| masahito | it looks like there is only style difference. | 09:10 |
| priteau | and actually the last one I need to verify it in the code | 09:11 |
| priteau | Next step is to identify what was missing from client v2 patches | 09:11 |
| masahito | DELETE also doesn't have id in url, right? | 09:11 |
| priteau | masahito: you're right. I wonder if that's a doc issue though | 09:12 |
| masahito | I hope so :) | 09:12 |
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| priteau | #action Verify where id is provided in PUT and DELETE requests for v2 API (priteau) | 09:13 |
| priteau | I believe we agreed that we would keep support for v1 API in the next Blazar release | 09:14 |
| priteau | If we can trust that v2 is working well and have it supported in the client, we could mark v1 as deprecated for this release | 09:15 |
| masahito | yes. | 09:15 |
| priteau | the goal being to minimize the amount of code to maintain | 09:15 |
| priteau | but I think at some point we will need a new API, probably with microversions | 09:15 |
| priteau | to support our new features | 09:16 |
| priteau | This brings us to the second action item | 09:16 |
| priteau | "investigate microversion support for Blazar API" | 09:16 |
| priteau | No one was assigned to this. I thought I could work on it but I didn't have much time for Blazar this past week. | 09:16 |
| priteau | Unless someone else has looked into it, I will reregister it | 09:17 |
| masahito | we should write down it in priorities after Ocata release | 09:17 |
| priteau | masahito: that's a good point | 09:17 |
| priteau | I added it at the end of our etherpad | 09:18 |
| masahito | we need to choose which version have microversioning, too. | 09:18 |
| masahito | like v1.1 or v2.1 | 09:18 |
| priteau | v2.1 like Nova? ;-) | 09:18 |
| masahito | :-> | 09:19 |
| priteau | We will revisit later then | 09:19 |
| priteau | Third item was "masahito translates Promise requirement to blazar feature" | 09:19 |
| masahito | but some of us is absent here to discuss it now. let's keep it mind. | 09:19 |
| masahito | I'm still working on the item. sorry, not yet done. | 09:20 |
| priteau | no problem | 09:20 |
| masahito | I try to finish it by next meeting. | 09:20 |
| priteau | That's all for last week's action items | 09:21 |
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| priteau | #topic Feedback on Project Teams Gathering (PTG) | 09:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feedback on Project Teams Gathering (PTG) (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:21 | |
| priteau | masahito: I saw that you sent the email to openstack-dev. Did you get any feedback? | 09:21 |
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| masahito | Unfortunately, I don't receive any feedback. | 09:22 |
| GeraldK | sorry. it is still undecided on our side whether one of us can join | 09:23 |
| GeraldK | I hope we can decide on this mid January | 09:23 |
| priteau | same for me, it will be clearer next month | 09:23 |
| masahito | no problem. | 09:24 |
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| masahito | I'll be there to join another team meeting. so if we are there, we can meet. | 09:25 |
| priteau | OK | 09:25 |
| masahito | but I'm not forcing it. | 09:25 |
| priteau | And who is planning to be in Boston? | 09:26 |
| priteau | I will likely be there | 09:26 |
| GeraldK | It's very likely one of us will be there | 09:27 |
| masahito | I maybe there | 09:27 |
| priteau | For those who can't make the PTG that's another opportunity to meet | 09:28 |
| priteau | 2.5 months later | 09:28 |
| masahito | good idea | 09:28 |
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| priteau | Should we skip the next topic? "User story and gap analysis" | 09:29 |
| priteau | If it's not ready for discussion | 09:29 |
| masahito | somehow, it's good to meet together. | 09:29 |
| masahito | nothing from my side for PTG | 09:30 |
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| r-mibu | I'll join PTG, i havn't get approval yet though | 09:30 |
| priteau | Hi r-mibu | 09:32 |
| GeraldK | related to the user story: I have drafted a OpenStack persona | 09:32 |
| GeraldK | your feedback is welcome on it | 09:32 |
| priteau | #topic User story and gap analysis | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "User story and gap analysis (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:32 | |
| GeraldK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osux-persona-nocengineer Draft NOC engineer proposal | 09:32 |
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| priteau | That's great GeraldK | 09:33 |
| GeraldK | at the end there is a part that we'd like to propose for the user story update | 09:33 |
| priteau | #action Review capacity management use case https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osux-persona-nocengineer | 09:34 |
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| priteau | GeraldK: it looks quite detailed, thanks for contributing this | 09:35 |
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| priteau | Anything else for use cases? | 09:37 |
| r-mibu | GeraldK: just quick question | 09:38 |
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| r-mibu | GeraldK: are you going to add reservation use case into that etherpad page? | 09:38 |
| GeraldK | r-mibu: not sure what you mean? | 09:39 |
| priteau | r-mibu: make sure you scroll down in the etherpad, there is more content after "The organizational models" | 09:39 |
| GeraldK | r-mibu: at the end of the etherpad you have a list of reservation usage examples | 09:39 |
| r-mibu | i mean 'key tasks' seems not include reservation use cases | 09:39 |
| r-mibu | i see, sorry! | 09:40 |
| GeraldK | r-mibu: good point. I may be more specific in the key tasks on reservation | 09:40 |
| r-mibu | that includes enough detail! thanks! | 09:40 |
| GeraldK | i am not sure about the content for some sections. need feedback from UX team | 09:42 |
| GeraldK | this is partically independent from the update to the user story | 09:42 |
| GeraldK | we can do the update to the user story even if the NOC engineer persona is not there yet. | 09:43 |
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| r-mibu | GeraldK: agree | 09:46 |
| priteau | GeraldK: are you talking about the capacity management user story? | 09:46 |
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| r-mibu | GeraldK: what we need is to convince developers in OpenStack project. user story is just one of method | 09:47 |
| priteau | or another user story? | 09:47 |
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| GeraldK | priteau: yes. capacity mgmt user story. | 09:48 |
| priteau | OK. Sorry, still haven't been able to review it. | 09:49 |
| GeraldK | priteau: I agree this is only one way of convicing developers. | 09:49 |
| priteau | #action Review capacity management user story (priteau) | 09:50 |
| GeraldK | and in addition this is a quite new method and we cannot know how successful it is. still, I'd like to also try that way. | 09:50 |
| priteau | #topic Discussion of new features | 09:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of new features (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:51 | |
| priteau | Anything to discuss about new features since last week? | 09:51 |
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| priteau | We're mostly focusing on bug fixes and code cleanup at the moment | 09:53 |
| priteau | Probably a better topic for next year ;-) | 09:54 |
| masahito | ;-) | 09:54 |
| priteau | #topic Next meetings | 09:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next meetings (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:54 | |
| priteau | It's going to be holiday season | 09:54 |
| priteau | I won't be able to join the next two meetings (Dec 27 and Jan 3) | 09:55 |
| masahito | me too. | 09:55 |
| GeraldK | I am not available Jan 3 | 09:55 |
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| priteau | Feel free to join without me of course | 09:56 |
| priteau | But if others have a similar holiday schedule, maybe we should have the next meeting on January 10 | 09:56 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:57 |
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| priteau | Is that OK for others too? | 09:58 |
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| GeraldK | +1 | 09:58 |
| priteau | #agreed Next meeting on January 10 | 09:59 |
| priteau | That's all for today then | 10:00 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 10:00:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 14:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | hello, who is up today? | 14:00 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| pradk | o/ | 14:00 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:00 |
| fultonj | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | o/ hello | 14:00 |
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| mandre | o/ | 14:00 |
| ccamacho | hi! o/ | 14:01 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic review actions items from last week | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review actions items from last week (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:01 | |
| shardy | o/ | 14:01 |
| matbu | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to test tripleo with centos7.3 and see how it goes: we did it last week, it seems like our CI is now passing on centos 7.3 | 14:01 |
| dprince | hi | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | EmilienM to send update on ML about releases ocata-2 and newton: done, mail sent. | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | beagles propose policy edit for periodically abandoning old reviews | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | HA & puppet experts to look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408726/ | 14:02 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | sounds like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408726/ is in bad shape and nobody reviewed it yet. | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | we need to postpone this one | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | #action HA & puppet experts to look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408726/ | 14:02 |
| * beagles will do that right after mtg so it doesn't slide to bottom of list again | 14:02 | |
| EmilienM | beagles: thanks | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to start postponing bugs / blueprints to ocata-3 or pike-1: done | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | please let me know if I moved your blueprint to pike-1 and you're not happy. We can still discuss about it, and change. | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | CI folks to review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:3-node and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410131/ | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410131/ is merged | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:3-node+status:open still have 3 patches | 14:04 |
| panda | o/ | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | please review the 3 patches ^ so we can move forward with 3-nodes testing. | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | we're done with actions, moving to off items | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | there is no item this week, can we go ahead in the regular agenda? | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:06 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-3 | 14:07 |
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| EmilienM | anyone has some specific bug to raise? | 14:08 |
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| trown | o/ | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | 18 Confirmed, 76 Triaged, 49 In Progress targetted for ocata-3 | 14:08 |
| trown | (that is me arriving late not raising my hand for a specific bug) | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | at some points, we might need some triage on what we need to fix in ocata-3 and what can be postponed | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | trown: welcome! | 14:09 |
| beagles | qquestin about https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1609688 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609688 in tripleo "CI: nonha jobs fails in introspection step because of mistral error" [Critical,Confirmed] | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm, panda: could you help in triaging bugs related to CI please? some of them are open but I don't think we still hit all of them | 14:09 |
| weshay | 0/ | 14:10 |
| beagles | is this a pretty isolated issue | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | beagles: we fixed this one last night | 14:10 |
| beagles | ? | 14:10 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, sure | 14:10 |
| beagles | ah okay | 14:10 |
| shardy | EmilienM: perhaps we could have a bug squash day prior to ocata-3, as it'd be good to focus on landing some of those vs postpoining a lot to the RC weeks | 14:10 |
| panda | EmilienM: ok | 14:10 |
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| beagles | I was hitting it in my env yesterday afternoon and noticed the alert tag had been punted, but missed the fix | 14:10 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: what an excellent idea :) | 14:11 |
| shardy | I know folks will be busy with features, but perhaps we could focus on landing bugs just for one day, particularly if there are high priority ones we already know about | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | beagles: update puppet-mistral / instack-undercloud / tht and you're fine | 14:11 |
| trown | beagles: fix was three repo revert of fernet token stuff in tht/instack-undercloud/puppet-tripleo | 14:11 |
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| shardy | last cycle some folks consumed the m3 release as a preview of newton, and it didn't work out well because we released with a lot of bugs | 14:11 |
| beagles | EmilienM: cool thanks | 14:11 |
| beagles | trown++ | 14:11 |
| beagles | +1 on shardy's proposal | 14:11 |
| trown | oh... s/puppet-tripleo/puppet-mistral | 14:11 |
| beagles | trown: ack | 14:11 |
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| beagles | thx | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | shardy: i'll organize this bug squash after the break and hopefully we have a a good number of folks focusing on bugs during a full day | 14:12 |
| shardy | Sounds good, thanks EmilienM | 14:13 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to organize TripleO Bug Squash Day, that will happen after the break | 14:13 |
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| EmilienM | I'm not aware of any critical bug not WIP already that we need to discuss | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | let's move forward (feel free to raise it if we missed something) | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects releases or stable backports (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:14 | |
| EmilienM | so 2 things: | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | we released ocata-2 last week. Congrats to the team! | 14:15 |
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| EmilienM | I'll repeat the message sent on the mailing-list. The focus in ocata-3 should be 1) finish a feature started in ocata-1 or ocata-2 and 2) stabilization: bug fixing, CI coverage, etc | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | end of january is end of ocata-3 | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | we have less than 4 weeks to finish the features that we want in tripleo | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | that said, the second thing is, I proposed a new release for Newton | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412643/ | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | (-1 from jenkins because I'm waiting for a patch in tripleo-ui to land) | 14:17 |
| marios | EmilienM: makes sense.. some things like the new hiera hook didn't appear in our osp10 setup so new newton release will hopefully fix that (it will end up in new osp10 builds too) | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | do we have any blocker to release Newton? do you have a patch in progress that we need to wait for? | 14:18 |
| marios | EmilienM: i mean makes sense for new newton release | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | marios: good feedback, thanks! | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | any feedback / question about release management? | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | so before we talk about our current CI work, I would like to thank everyone who helped hard last week in fixing TripleO CI | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | as a result, we managed to promote the repos this morning | 14:20 |
| gfidente | EmilienM marios sorry for going back a little but | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | so again: thank yoy :-) | 14:20 |
| gfidente | are you saying that with a new newton release we'll also switch to the new hiera hook? | 14:20 |
| gfidente | (the Newton release | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: we are going to cut stable/newton with a new tag | 14:20 |
| shardy | gfidente: No, we must not backport anything related to the hiera hook | 14:20 |
| shardy | that will be part of the upgrade to ocata | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yep, exactly | 14:21 |
| gfidente | shardy ack ok I was trying to understand marios' comment about the new hook | 14:21 |
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| shardy | marios: Yeah perhaps you can clarify, but that hook should never be added to newton builds | 14:21 |
| marios | shardy: ah OK never mind then I thought we'd put that into newton | 14:22 |
| shardy | I mean, the package may be available but we shouldn't require it until the ocata upgrade | 14:22 |
| shardy | Ok, cool | 14:22 |
| gfidente | delicate thing to upgrade | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | thanks for clarifying :) | 14:22 |
| gfidente | while probably transparent to end users | 14:22 |
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| marios | gfidente: well its currently being handled by removing the old data and installign the new hook on the upgrade init | 14:22 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm, weshay: do you mind if you could give an update on container CI job? what patch is blocking, etc... so we can dress a list of things to review | 14:23 |
| shardy | yeah we might streamline that process but atm it's a pre-upgrade script | 14:23 |
| dprince | to be clear we aren't planning on backporting the new optimized hiera hook into Newton are we? (I was not planning on this...) | 14:23 |
| gfidente | ok thanks for clarifying and explaining | 14:23 |
| weshay | EmilienM, we are good to go, I sent an update to the list.. w/ updated instructions and how to pull in the latest required patches | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | dprince: not afik | 14:23 |
| marios | dprince: yeah i thought we would but the discussion/clarification from shardy and now you is that we will not be backporting the new hiera hook | 14:24 |
| dprince | okay, sounds good | 14:24 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, weshay I'll start with a job then | 14:24 |
| shardy | dprince: No, we're not, there's just been some confusion :) | 14:24 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: is there any patch under review that would block this work? | 14:25 |
| sshnaidm | weshay, ^ | 14:25 |
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| EmilienM | let me ask again: what are blocking tripleo CI to have this job running? | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | tripleo-ci patch? etc | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I think it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400986/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393348/ | 14:26 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: those are oooq | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: my question is about tripleo-ci | 14:26 |
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| EmilienM | shardy, matbu: what is the progress on major upgrade job? I've seen some patches have been done to make it happen, how close are we? | 14:27 |
| sshnaidm | weshay, are all tht patches merged? | 14:27 |
| shardy | EmilienM: It's working fine locally, but matbu has been working through some remaining issues related to the environment variables in CI | 14:27 |
| weshay | sshnaidm, no.. none of them | 14:27 |
| matbu | EmilienM: we are close, i just get an issue related to the ci script generaly | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | shardy: I guess we're close then :) | 14:27 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, weshay so which patches are blocking us? | 14:28 |
| matbu | EmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/413106 | 14:28 |
| matbu | shardy: ^ | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | weshay: could you please dress a list (using a common gerrit topic) of patches that we need? | 14:28 |
| shardy | Yeah I think we're pretty close now but it would be great to get it landed this week, and potentially moved to the check queue | 14:28 |
| matbu | I tried to explain the issue in the commit message, not sure if it's clear :) | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | shardy: the first time we see experimental job passing, let's move it to check queue -nv (non voting) | 14:28 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I'd like to do it with oooq, it's more ready afaik, we can use non-merged patches there as workaround and have it running very soon | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | matbu: you might want to rebase the upgrade patch on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413106/ | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | matbu: they conflict and they can't be tested together. | 14:29 |
| matbu | EmilienM: btw i think we actually never test the uc-upgrade in ci | 14:29 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yep i will do | 14:29 |
| shardy | matbu: thanks - that explains why we didn't catch the nova cells v2 thing in CI | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: yes, please create a job with oooq and let's have it in tripleo-ci | 14:29 |
| shardy | it broke undercloud upgrades, and I couldn't work out why CI didn't break | 14:30 |
| weshay | EmilienM, sshnaidm https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:oooq-containers | 14:30 |
| matbu | shardy: ha that explain, cool to catch that | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | matbu: oh, I remember slagle reporting this kind of feedback a while ago, too | 14:30 |
| shardy | matbu: should we actually be populating deploy.env instead of removing the source of it? | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | weshay, sshnaidm: where are the patches in tripleo-ci and project-config to have the job? it's WIP ? | 14:31 |
| matbu | EmilienM: shardy actually, if no CI folks have strong objection (and if CI is green on the review) it's safe enough to merged it quickly | 14:31 |
| slagle | EmilienM: we have a job for that now, but it is nv | 14:31 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, job already exists | 14:31 |
| matbu | shardy: idk the use of sourcing it | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | slagle: right, gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades-nv | 14:31 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I mean in project-config, it already runs | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | matbu: were you saying gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades-nv is not doing what we want? | 14:32 |
| matbu | shardy: i think if tripleo-ci expert could give their advice on it | 14:32 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I don't have a patch still, waiting on merged in oooq side.. | 14:32 |
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| matbu | EmilienM: yes it's doing minor upgrade (newton to newton) | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: and on tripleo-ci repo side? it's wip on your side? | 14:32 |
| slagle | it's not doing a minor upgrade | 14:32 |
| slagle | it does a major upgrade, by first installing the previous major release | 14:32 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, yep, in WIP | 14:33 |
| matbu | slagle: i think so | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: ok, good to know. Please keep us updates as soon as oyu have something | 14:33 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, sure | 14:33 |
| matbu | slagle: i have put an example in the review: http://logs.openstack.org/31/404831/32/check/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades-nv/9f20ac6/logs/var/log/undercloud_upgrade.txt.gz#_2016-12-15_15_47_40_000 | 14:33 |
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| matbu | slagle: in the log, the stable release is still set to newton and it configured the newton repo | 14:34 |
| slagle | matbu: since the patch is against master, it starts by installing newton | 14:34 |
| slagle | right, so it tests from newton to master, which is a major upgrade | 14:34 |
| matbu | slagle: yes, but in toci_* the stable release to master minus 1 == newton, then the stable_release is dump in the deploy.env as newton and is never overriden | 14:35 |
| matbu | slagle: in th e log ^ the delorean.repo should be master not newton | 14:36 |
| matbu | smae | 14:36 |
| matbu | same behavior with major overcloud upgrade | 14:36 |
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| EmilienM | so we want to take an action from here and discuss this topic offline? | 14:36 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yep maybe | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | #action matbu, slagle to figure undercloud major upgrade job status | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | I'll let you figure that thing together ;-) | 14:37 |
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| matbu | yep thx | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | #topic Specs | 14:37 |
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| EmilienM | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | some specs were waiting for +A, I want to give a last chance for them to merge | 14:38 |
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| EmilienM | the ones without review or with negative review, will be postponed to Pike. | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | anything to discuss about specs? | 14:40 |
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| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:41 |
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| EmilienM | I would like to talk about PTG a little, I forgot to add the item in the off items | 14:41 |
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| EmilienM | I'm about to bootstrap the discussion to prepare TripleO PTG sessions in Atlanta | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM sends an email to start preparing PTG | 14:41 |
| shardy | EmilienM: that would be good, I was wondering about the PTG status | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | one thing important to know is that we'll have a room between Wednesday and Friday included | 14:42 |
| shardy | e.g how many sessions we have etc | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | we'll have 3 days together | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | monday / tuesday are horizontal sessions (infra, cross project, release, security, etc) | 14:42 |
| marios | EmilienM: +1 shardy matbu i think an upgrades related one... iteration for P once we've got the composable /step based and also how the upgrades + containers would work since that is coming too | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | since some people will be traveling on Friday, as usual, it would make sense to make the most important sessions on Wednesday and Thursday and maybe do hack sessions on Friday | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | so I'll send an etherpad | 14:43 |
| gfidente | shardy is that a good forum to bring some code for the workflowexecution resource too? | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | folks, please add your topics in the etherpad as soon as you can | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: it will be our regular design sessions | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: like we previously did at Summit. | 14:44 |
| shardy | gfidente: Yes that seems a good place to discuss it - we can get Heat folks involved too if needed | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | if needed, we can create heat/tripleo sessions | 14:44 |
| * shardy wasn't sure on the final consensus re the ML thread last week | 14:44 | |
| gfidente | EmilienM yep but this is sort of 'horizonal' | 14:44 |
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| gfidente | tripleo/heat | 14:45 |
| shardy | marios: agreed - I think we need proper upgrade support for the container based solution from day1, and to figure out how to migrate from non-container to container based deployments | 14:45 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: exactly, we'll arange a common session | 14:46 |
| marios | EmilienM: just wanted to note we had an upgrades squad syncup last week... info at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/109022.html - may be useful for getting involved with reviews/testing for anyone interested | 14:46 |
| shardy | marios: the current upgrade architecture doesn't consider that hybrid situation at all, so we'll need to think about it some more | 14:46 |
| gfidente | I'll try to get cschwede involved too so we have a use case and possible some working code | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | marios: excellent, and nice summary. | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | marios, matbu: what is the plan for the pacemaker ansible module? Time is running out and we need to think where we put this code. | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | matbu: have you made progress on that^? | 14:46 |
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| marios | EmilienM: in the worst case we will carry it in the tht (it is two py files) and for current testing we are even delivering/installing during the upgrade init | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | maybe we can organize some swift/tripleo heat/tripleo mistral/tripleo ironic/tripleo sessions | 14:47 |
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| EmilienM | if you like the idea, I can't contact the PTLs and find a common slot | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | I can* | 14:47 |
| matbu | marios: yep thx (you are taping too fast :)) | 14:47 |
| marios | matbu: i *love* my new keyboard :) | 14:48 |
| matbu | hehe | 14:48 |
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| EmilienM | feel free to bring more topics or ask any question. Otherwise I'll close the meeting in 1 min | 14:49 |
| beagles | /me is now curious about marios' keyboard | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | matbu: I'll ping you after meeting to know, you haven't answered. | 14:50 |
| matbu | i may have one question regarding tripleo-quickstart | 14:50 |
| matbu | EmilienM: about the module ? (feel free sure) | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | matbu: it would be nice to know the status of this thing, again, time is running out very fast and I still see this code in THT | 14:51 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yep as marios said, the plan for now is to keep it in tht | 14:51 |
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| EmilienM | matbu: we can discuss it on #tripleo after meeting. What was your question? | 14:51 |
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| matbu | regarding the review in oooq, afaik the tripleo cores is cores also on oooq | 14:52 |
| trown | yep | 14:53 |
| matbu | but it looks like none of them is reviewing oooq | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | none? trown does iirc | 14:53 |
| trown | juan does quite a few reviews too | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | I think it doesn't depend of whether or not you can +2, but also on your area of expertise. | 14:53 |
| matbu | i have some reviews that is taking so long for being reviewed | 14:53 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yep sure, but that's why i think there is little bottleneck here | 14:54 |
| marios | i am not reviewing oooq i can promise to start | 14:54 |
| trown | matbu: first I have heard about them | 14:54 |
| marios | or rarely anyway | 14:54 |
| slagle | i dont think that is a problem specific to oooq, but all our projects really | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | matbu: when you're blocked, feel free to send an email to openstack-dev | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | slagle: do you think we miss reviewers in all projects? | 14:55 |
| matbu | EmilienM: ack | 14:55 |
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| slagle | EmilienM: i'm not sure what you're asking | 14:55 |
| * matbu should be much noisy :) | 14:55 | |
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| slagle | i was saying that we have reviews that in all of our projects that take a long time to land b/c they are not reviewed | 14:55 |
| trown | matbu: ya squeeky wheel gets the grease | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | slagle: my question was, do we miss core reviewers in tripleo? | 14:56 |
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| slagle | i'm not sure. what do you think? | 14:57 |
| shardy | EmilienM: yes, but we've been trying to grow the team, with some success over the last couple of cycles | 14:57 |
| matbu | trown: hehe nice expression :) | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | shardy: exactly | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | we can't force people to review code in Gerrit | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | what we can do is maybe write some documentation to welcome new reviewers | 14:58 |
| d0ugal | well, we can, but the reviews get worse if they are forced :) | 14:58 |
| shardy | Having work tracked and prioritized against milestones helps, as it can prevent patches from getting completely lost | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | and document our best practices | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | shardy: also! | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | slagle, matbu: but your concern is 100% valid - we need to address it. | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | we have 50s left, we might want to take it offline | 14:59 |
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| slagle | i miss all core and non-core reviewers! | 14:59 |
| trown | hehe | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 15:00:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | thanks folks | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-12-20-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-12-20-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-12-20-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| trown | february is not too far off slagle :) | 15:00 |
| trown | thanks EmilienM | 15:00 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 16:04:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-12-20_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:04 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:05 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:05 |
| yatinkarel | Yatin Karel | 16:05 |
| vijendar_ | Vijendar Komalla | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | sorry for the lag today. I'm not in my usual location, and the internet is not as good here. | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | hello jvgrant yatinkarel and vijendar_ | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | are hongbin chris_hultin and jasond with us today as well? | 16:06 |
| jasond | o/ | 16:06 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:06 |
| chris_hultin | adrian_otto: o/ | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | hello hongbin chris_hultin and jasond | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi let me know he is on vacation today, so will not attend | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | among others | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:08 | |
| adrian_otto | 1) Reminder, there will be no meeting on 2016-12-27 | 16:08 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | 2) strigazi: the fedora-atomic-latest image in fedorapeople is updated the fedora-atomic-24 image built on 2016-12-07 05-13 UTC. | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | hello juggler | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:08 |
| juggler | hello! | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:09 | |
| adrian_otto | (none) | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:09 | |
| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprints | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes Flatten Attributes [strigazi] | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | anyone else working on this one that has an update? | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | this one merged https://review.openstack.org/393094 | 16:10 |
| jvgrant | there are a couple work in progress reviews out | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | so we are making continued progress | 16:10 |
| jvgrant | provided some feedback | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | yes, the spec merged as well | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | https://review.openstack.org/395012 and https://review.openstack.org/392193 show WIP | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | thanks jvgrant. ANy other remarks on these? | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nedegroups [Drago] | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | Drago is not here today. | 16:12 |
| jvgrant | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352734/ | 16:13 |
| jvgrant | updated the spec from some feedback | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | ok, sweet | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/352734 Reviewers please review this | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | any discussion on this bp? | 16:14 |
| jvgrant | i think we are just waiting on further feedback and discussion | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe Secure Central Data store(etcd) [yatin] | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | looks like https://review.openstack.org/403501 is awaiting review | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | https://review.openstack.org/404782 merged | 16:15 |
| yatinkarel | k8s_fedora is merged, swarm is for review: https://review.openstack.org/403501 and for coreos i will submit tomorrow | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | and https://review.openstack.org/407374 merged | 16:15 |
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| adrian_otto | yatin: thanks for all the progress here. Looks like we are in good shape. Any discussion on this bp? | 16:15 |
| yatinkarel | No | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | ok, last one... | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster Upgrades [strigazi] | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | this one's spec is in WIP: https://review.openstack.org/392193 | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | discussion on this one? | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | Other Work Items | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | vijendar_: did you want to revisit cluster stats, or are we okay there? | 16:18 |
| vijendar_ | adrian_otto: so far we got few +2s | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | I am ready to merge the spec if there are no objections | 16:18 |
| jvgrant | looked like we had 3 +2 now on that. I think it is probably good to merge | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok, if we do find something needing further discussion, we will address those as they come | 16:19 |
| vijendar_ | sure | 16:19 |
| juggler | +1 for the merge | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | approved for merge | 16:20 |
| vijendar_ | adrian_otto: thanks | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | ok, any other work items needing team discussion? | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | unless we have lots of pressing things to cover in open discussion today, maybe we can plan to end a bit early. | 16:22 |
| jvgrant | seems like a slow week | 16:22 |
| jasond | i reported a bug yesterday https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1651243 | 16:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1651243 in Magnum "404 from Heat when creating cluster from Quickstart doc" [Undecided,New] | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, lets take a look | 16:23 |
| juggler | looking here too.. | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | can someone volunteer to reproduce it? | 16:23 |
| jvgrant | i can try it out | 16:24 |
| hongbin | i wonder why the CI didn't catch this bug | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks jvgrant | 16:25 |
| yatinkarel | hongbin, may be cli to api issue, and CI has limited test | 16:25 |
| hongbin | yatinkarel: yes, could be | 16:26 |
| jasond | uthng encountered it yesterday http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-containers/%23openstack-containers.2016-12-19.log.html | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | jvgrant: I set you as the owner just to remind you to help with reproducing | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | you can set it back to unassigned unless you want to resolve | 16:26 |
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| jvgrant | adrian_otto: ok, thanks | 16:27 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, let's end early | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending | 16:29 |
| yatinkarel | One query | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | yatinkarel: ? | 16:29 |
| yatinkarel | strigazi started a mail i think we didn't not concluded, so how we track such mails or i missed some meeting: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107613.html | 16:29 |
| juggler | please go ahead yatinkarel | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | yatinkarel: I'll raise it for review at our next meeting | 16:31 |
| yatinkarel | adrian_otto, Ok so it's not discussed in meeting. | 16:32 |
| yatinkarel | Thanks | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to add http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107613.html to our 2012-01-03 team meeting agenda. | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | Our next team meeting will be on 2012-01-03 at 1600 UTC. | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today. | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 16:32:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-12-20-16.04.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-12-20-16.04.txt | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-12-20-16.04.log.html | 16:32 |
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| juggler | see you next year all | 16:34 |
| juggler | if not sooner ;) | 16:34 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 17:02:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | let's see if anyone shows up today =) | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok I assume no one's going to show up =) | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 17:29:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-12-20-17.02.html | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-12-20-17.02.txt | 17:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-12-20-17.02.log.html | 17:29 |
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