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IgorYozhikov#startmeeting rpm_packaging13:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 13:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is IgorYozhikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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number80thanks IgorYozhikov13:00
number80agenda: #startmeeting rpm_packaging13:00
number80arf13:00
IgorYozhikov#chair number80 IgorYozhikov jpena13:00
openstackCurrent chairs: IgorYozhikov jpena number8013:00
jpenao/13:00
number80ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof13:00
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jruzickao/13:00
number80my man Jakub :)13:00
dirkmoin moin13:02
dirktoabctl is still ooo13:02
number80ok13:03
number80let's start then13:03
number80#topic nova, glance, cinder, neutron how, who, when?13:03
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IgorYozhikovyes13:03
IgorYozhikovwant to clarify our future plans13:03
number80ok, I volunteer for glance/cinder13:04
IgorYozhikovand your opinion about it13:04
IgorYozhikovbecause of one of goals been set in Barcelona - dev-core in Ocata13:04
number80Yep, since the cycle was short, we couldn't move as fast but we landed keystone13:04
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number80so let's keep trying min cloud13:05
IgorYozhikovhorizon is on the way and that is good, very soon hope all required deps will be built13:05
number80Yes13:05
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IgorYozhikovI can take nova13:06
number80ack13:06
IgorYozhikovand who want to take neutron?13:06
number80#action number80 to package glance, cinder13:06
number80#action IgorYozhikov to package nova13:06
IgorYozhikovI know that neutron looks a painful13:07
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IgorYozhikovvolunteers?13:07
jpenaI'll go for neutron, looks like fun13:07
number80#action jpena to package neutron13:08
IgorYozhikovyey!13:08
number80thanks, well, network sounds to me like no fun but that's a personal bias :D13:08
IgorYozhikovso, very soon we will have nova,cinder,glance,neutron & horizon. That's good13:09
IgorYozhikovAny thoughts how to check all them together?13:09
IgorYozhikovpuppet, ansible,etc?13:10
IgorYozhikovI'm about basic functionality13:10
IgorYozhikovwithout swift,ceph, neutron-*aas13:10
dirkIgorYozhikov: can you remove the -2 btw and work on the dashboard review?13:10
IgorYozhikovdirk - yes, will do13:10
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number80Yes13:11
dirkIgorYozhikov: well, at suse we have a small quickstart script (its like devstack but using packages)13:11
dirkwe could add it to the suse ci13:11
dirkto be honest the current packaging isn't far enough yet to worry about that13:11
dirkfor now building packages would be nice13:12
number80We'll look into reusing puppet manifests (low-level stuff) and maybe packstack (I need to check with jpena and amoralej feasibility)13:12
number80*about13:12
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IgorYozhikovpackstack also looks good, just AIO with small config13:12
jpenanumber80: puppet modules/packstack are an option, if there are not many changes with package names or locations13:12
IgorYozhikovcould be run as periodic job13:13
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jpenaI can have a look at it once we've created the basic services13:13
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number80jpena: thank you :)13:13
IgorYozhikovlooks like we covered 2 things at ones.13:14
dirkso any service left?13:14
IgorYozhikovheat13:14
dirklooks like all is covered by number80 / jpena13:15
dirkheat is basic? :)13:15
IgorYozhikovnot sure13:15
jpenait's 2nd batch for me :)13:15
* number80 do not know anything about that heat thing13:15
IgorYozhikovdirk, may be swift then13:15
number80swift is basic indeed13:15
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dirknumber80: good excuse ;)13:16
number80:)13:17
dirkok, I'll see about swift.13:17
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number80ack13:17
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dirkdid we ever decide about the package splitting?13:18
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IgorYozhikovdirk, are you about tests || about something else?13:19
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dirkwell, let me explain the standard openstack packaging with suse13:20
dirkwe have a python-$modulename  subpackage13:20
dirkthen we have a openstack-$modulename package13:20
dirkand a openstack-$modulename-$servicename subpackage that only contains the stuff for launching that service (systemd files for example)13:20
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dirkit looks like we tried to do something similar to that with the keystone packaging13:21
dirkalthough mistral deviates from that again13:21
dirkalso do you call horizon dashboard or horizon? :)13:21
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IgorYozhikovdirk, in http path?13:22
IgorYozhikovafaik horizon = debina/ubuntu & dashboard - RH/CentOS13:23
dirkfrom the package naming13:23
IgorYozhikovdon't know how in SUSE13:23
dirkas I said, we call it openstack-dashboard13:24
dirkmostly because for historical reasons wthough, because in folsom timeframe or so someone said horizon will be renamed to dashboard soon13:24
dirkso we wanted to be correct from the beginning :) looks like this never happened though13:24
number80Yeah13:26
IgorYozhikovopenstack-dashboard looks fine13:26
IgorYozhikovaccording to https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/3923/3/python-django-horizon.spec RDO is using same name13:27
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IgorYozhikovin MOS we use openstack-dashboard too13:29
dirkok13:30
IgorYozhikovdirk, if any1 agree about package structure, should we take keystone as a reference for further packages?13:30
dirk#agreed horizon is called openstack-dashboard13:31
dirkIgorYozhikov: well, keystone is a bad example as it doesn't follow that structure :)13:31
dirke.g. the wsgi app is not installed in a -app subpackage13:31
IgorYozhikovgot it13:31
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IgorYozhikovmoving forward?13:32
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dirk+113:33
IgorYozhikovnumber80, jpena ? ^^13:34
jpenayep13:34
IgorYozhikov#topic packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open )13:34
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number80+113:35
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IgorYozhikovMOS will update today python-django-compressor - https://review.fuel-infra.org/#/c/29876/313:37
IgorYozhikovany urgent PRs for review?13:38
dirkwell, the whole ocata series13:38
number80Yep13:38
dirkIdeally I'd like us to cut a stable/ocata branch somewhen soon13:38
dirkwe started packaging Ocata, and I don#t want to fork from upstream13:38
number80when's the branching for the other projects?13:38
dirk"it depends"13:39
IgorYozhikovlibs & clients in a week or 2 before services13:39
IgorYozhikovi think13:39
dirknon-client lib freeze is today13:39
dirkso they have stable branches13:39
dirkthe rest is coming next week13:39
dirkthats why I'm frantically trying to get stuff into master13:40
dirk:)13:40
number80ok, I'll schedule branching early next week13:40
number80and push for reviews now13:40
IgorYozhikovI reviewed a lot of PRs today13:41
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number80ack13:43
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number80anything else?13:45
IgorYozhikovnope13:45
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number80#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec+status:open13:45
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number80(no pymod2pkg review, I merged the pystache one)13:45
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number80I don't see any urgent review there, but someone may have a different opinion13:46
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dirklooks good13:46
number80ok, then open floor13:47
number80#topic open floor13:47
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number80any specific topic you want to bring before we close the meeting?13:47
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IgorYozhikovany updates on ptg?13:48
number80I haven't received any email yet, though TC is gathering opinion of some openstack goals13:49
number80schedule is not yet published13:50
IgorYozhikovthnx13:50
dirknumber80: see governance/goals/pike13:51
dirkthere is one (?) review pending still13:51
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number80Yep13:53
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dirkthe accepted goal was python 3.5 voting everywhere and working for "base" set of services13:55
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IgorYozhikovyes, I asked how to solve exe name issues, via update-alternatives for example13:57
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number80Yes13:57
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dirkone thing I was wondering - do we want to remove the global-requirements copy in rpm-packaging?13:57
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dirkI never got around fixing the bot, and mos ci doesn't use it (and rdo and mos just ignore it anyway since they don#t do global rebuilds)13:58
dirkso its only there for suse ci, and I can probably hack that locally13:58
IgorYozhikovmos ci uses g-r from rpm-packaging13:58
IgorYozhikovduring builds13:58
dirkI thought it uses the one from g-r?13:58
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IgorYozhikovdirk, I'll check it & let you know13:59
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number80dirk: we can remove it and allow local overrides if needed (and agreed by CI masters)13:59
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IgorYozhikovwe have fall-back14:00
IgorYozhikov13:53:50 + '[' NEW = MERGED ']'14:00
IgorYozhikov13:53:50 + mkdir artifacts14:00
IgorYozhikov13:53:50 + '[' -f global-requirements.txt ']'14:00
IgorYozhikov13:53:50 + cp global-requirements.txt artifacts/14:00
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IgorYozhikovtime colleagues :(14:01
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IgorYozhikov#endmeeting14:02
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-01-19-13.00.html14:02
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-01-19-13.00.txt14:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-01-19-13.00.log.html14:02
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number80thanks and see you next week!14:02
slashme#startmeeting freezer14:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 14:03:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slashme. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'freezer'14:03
slashmeHello everyone :-)14:03
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ralievhey slashme, hey everyone :)14:04
szaher_Hello everyone14:04
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slashmeAs usual, you can find the meeting notes and agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings14:06
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dstepanenkohello everyone14:07
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slashme#topic pike_ptl14:10
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slashmeAs most of you know, I won't be running for PTL for the Pike cycle14:10
slashmeI posted an email in the mailing list to announce that, but I'd like to take a minute to thank all of you14:11
slashmeThanks for contributing to Freezer :-)14:12
yangyapeng_thank you slashme14:12
szaher_I would like to apply to be the Pike PTL that would be a great chance for me to contribute do more with freezer14:12
szaher_Thanks slashme14:12
ralievslashme, thank you for your work :)14:12
slashmeI think that's a great idea. szaher14:12
dstepanenkothank you too, slashme :) as for me you payed enough attention to all the things I asked to take a look, so thanks for that :)14:13
szaher_It would be a great chance for me to work closely with the existing great team to keep freezer moving forward and add more features14:13
slashmeAlso, I would like to nominate raliev to a position in the core team.14:13
szaher_+114:13
yangyapeng_+114:13
dstepanenko+114:14
slashmeWe have the policy of waiting for a developper to contribute one big feature before adding them. As soon as this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409796/ gets merge, you qualify.14:14
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ralievslashme, guys -  thank you a lot! This is a great honor for me :)14:14
slashmeI'm sure other will follow soon :-)14:14
slashmeI'll send the email later today or tomorrow. Please check your inbox and +1 on the mailing list as usual.14:15
slashmeI guess that's it for the administrative part14:15
slashme#topic Optimize freezer-web-ui14:16
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szaher_slashme raliev I will be testing this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409796/ very soon to get it merged14:16
slashmeI am testing it as well at the moment14:16
slashmeOptimize freezer-web-ui (Solicitation bug):  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42163414:16
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ralievslashme, szaher_  okay, if you have any questions or comments -  I'll reply14:17
szaher_Thanks raliev14:18
yangyapengszaher_:  slashme14:18
slashme#topic Pending Reviews:14:18
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slashmeI updated the list here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings14:18
yangyapengplease review this patch  about the client register https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42163414:19
slashmePatch in the "Small" list should be quick to review. Please take some time to review some of the patch in the "Big" list, they are the one needing more attention.14:19
szaher_yangyapeng ?14:20
yangyapeng Sorry, i forget it . that client register could register have more clinet_id in a host name14:20
yangyapengszaher_: why is it that register more one client_id in a hostname14:22
yangyapengszaher_: if we should have a limit14:22
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szaher_The client registration uses the hostname as client id14:23
slashmeWe want to change that at some point: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/better-client-id14:23
yangyapengslashme: szaher_ now, freezerclient   freezer client-register  can register more one client14:25
yangyapengslashme: oh, i see the spec, it is better14:26
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ralievWe need to change mechanism of registering clients (schedulers) according to the bp14:28
szaher_I could be nice if we can manage the clients from freezer-api, like allowing clients to register jobs or not, what kind of jobs this client can do and stuff like that14:29
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szaher_that might be useful for admins to manage their backups and clients from a centralized point of view14:30
ralievyep and we should track what clients are available for the moment14:30
slashmeraliev: +114:30
yangyapengif we have a hostname in a conf, as a same as nova-compute14:30
slashmeThis is planned in the blueprint with last_poll_date14:31
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yangyapengso, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422349/ this patch could need more a change in the future14:32
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slashmeYes it might require some change.14:36
slashme#topic free14:36
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slashmeAnything else that you want to discuss ?14:36
dstepanenkoyep14:36
dstepanenkothere's a blueprint for freezer-dr https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/quasi-live-vm-backup14:37
dstepanenkoI was looking into freezer-dr tool and wonder why this strange quasi-live backup was chosen instead of using normal live migration14:38
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dstepanenkoor probably I'm missing something and these are 2 different features which can exist on the same time14:38
yangyapengi think szaher_ should have a good idea14:38
yangyapenghello Allen_14:39
yangyapengping Allen_14:39
dstepanenkoso, what was the original purpose of quasi live backup thing14:39
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slashmeIn freezer-dr, we use evacuation instead of migration (same thing in the end)14:40
slashmeAs far as I know. We never implemented that blueprint. It is very very old14:40
yangyapengevacuate --on-share-storage14:41
dstepanenkook, what about using live migration? Did we have such plans? Judging by documentation we has14:41
dstepanenkobut do we have them now?14:41
dstepanenkobecause in https://github.com/openstack/freezer-dr/blob/master/README.rst you can find14:42
dstepanenkoAny evacuation driver (currently supports evacuate api call, may be migrate ??)14:42
slashmeYes, I guess we could implement an evacuate driver.14:43
slashmeszaher ? Any comment on that ?14:43
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dstepanenkoas far as I know there's already implementation of evacuate driver14:44
dstepanenkothe question is - is there any reason we use live migration as an alternative for that purposes? there are customers which are interested in it14:44
dstepanenko is there any reason we can't use live migration14:45
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dstepanenkosorry, misspeled14:45
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yangyapenglive-migration api must be nova-compute is up and enable14:46
slashmeevacuation is meant to be used when the compute node is down. Live migration is meant to be used when the compute node is up. These are two different usecase14:47
dstepanenkoyes, you're right14:47
yangyapeng:)14:48
dstepanenkothen I'm gonna propose blueprint for being able use live migration in case compute node is up14:48
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dstepanenkodon't you mind?14:48
yangyapengdstepanenko: but ,if nova-compute is up, what is freezer-dr a role?14:50
dstepanenkoI think there are use cases when node is alive, but there are some issues on it14:52
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dstepanenkoso, it's allowed to do live migration but it's not in a good shape14:53
dstepanenkobecause of some of it's services which are not relevant to live migration ability14:53
dstepanenkodoes it make sense?14:53
slashmeIt makes sense14:54
slashmeI did not think about this usecase14:54
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slashmeOkay. We are running out of time.14:58
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slashmeThank you all for your participation :-)14:58
slashme#endmeeting14:59
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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 15:01:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
bswartzhello all15:01
cknightHi15:01
gansohello15:01
gouthamrhello o/15:01
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tbarronhi15:01
Yogi1Hi15:01
vponomaryovhello15:01
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bswartz#topic announcements15:01
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bswartzfeature freeze is next week15:01
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xyang1hi15:02
bswartzas always we're aiming to merge everything by tuesday15:02
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vponomaryovbswartz: by the end of Tuesday?15:02
marksturhi15:02
gouthamrbswartz: can we set https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ocata-code-review-focus in the topic for #openstack-manila15:02
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bswartzgouthamr: good idea15:03
tommylikehu_hi15:03
dustins\o15:03
tommylikehu_hey xyang115:03
bswartzvponomaryov: yes if we could have every patch merged by end of Tuesday I'd be thrilled15:03
tommylikehu_I just saw your email;(15:03
xyang1tommylikehu_: hi15:03
vponomaryovbswartz: propheting -> we will not15:04
bswartzmore realistically we might need to push some things out15:04
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bswartzwe can discuss this more in the next topic15:04
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bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:05
bswartz#topic  Specs implementation status15:05
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bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ocata-code-review-focus15:05
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bswartzso a few things have been merging, but we're not moving fast enough to hit out target15:05
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bswartzThere are still 6 specs and 2 drivers waiting -- all of these met out deadlines I believe (might need to double check on the new drivers)15:06
gansobswartz: there are driver features as well15:06
bswartzthere are 4 days including today and next tuesday to merge all of this, so unless we average 2 big patches per day, something will slip15:07
gouthamrbswartz: all three met the FPF/Driver deadlines15:07
bswartzit's just the reality of how much time we have left15:07
bswartzganso: yes thanks for pointing out that we have some small patches too15:07
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bswartzlet's go over the remaining ones real quick in case we need to discuss any as a group15:08
bswartz#topic fix-and-improve-access-rules15:08
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bswartzI see lots of patch sets and comments here15:09
gouthamrbeing actively reviewed15:09
bswartzis it ready?15:09
bswartzI haven't reviewed this one -- are we just nitpicking or are there big problems?15:09
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vponomaryovmostly it is ok15:09
gansoLGTM15:10
bswartzokay this one is high priority -- let's get it in and move on15:10
marksturmost is ok15:10
bswartz#topic ipv615:10
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tommylikehu_well15:10
gouthamri'll help tbarron with reviewing these patches today15:11
tommylikehu_thanks15:11
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tbarroni don't think i'm just nitpicking fwiw15:11
tommylikehu_hope it can make it to Ocata15:11
bswartztbarron: on the last one?15:11
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tbarronyeah, but I'm for the change over all15:12
gouthamrtommylikehu_: did you have any other driver patch as well?15:12
tommylikehu_no..15:12
bswartztbarron: if you're not confident your issues can be addressed, let's try to solve the problem, or else we should -2 it an move on to other things that can merge15:12
tbarronwe are trying to solve15:12
tommylikehu_our driver teams are busy with cinder's CI issues15:12
bswartztbarron: I mean let's discuss it in this meeting or in the channel afterwards15:13
bswartzback to ipv6 though15:13
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bswartzthis one is next up on my list15:13
bswartztbarron and gouthamr are the official reviewers though15:13
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tommylikehu_that would be great15:13
gouthamrtommylikehu_: okay, thanks... the huawei CI for manila has been flaky and not-reporting or the logs are inaccessible. spoke with a couple of your folks yesterday..15:14
bswartzremember we marked the access rules spec and the ipv6 spec high priority15:14
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tommylikehu_gouthamr: oh no ..15:14
bswartzlet's stay on topic guys15:14
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bswartz#topic eliminate-race-conditions15:15
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bswartzneed another core to sign up to review this15:15
gouthamrtbh, this has been around since early newton.. can i help in any way to drive review attention to this?15:16
xyang1bswartz: I signed up15:16
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bswartzxyang1: ty15:16
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gouthamrthank you xyang115:16
bswartzI'm going to skiup over the drivers, but I'll remark that we need another reviewer for each15:17
bswartzxyang1: aren't you doing a lot of the reviews for the new EMC driver?15:17
xyang1bswartz: yes, I think it's ready now15:17
bswartz#topic mountable-snapshots15:17
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cknightbswartz: I'm reviewing the EMC driver, too15:18
bswartzcknight you're on the etherpad but xyang isn't15:18
bswartzganso/gouthamr/vponomarov how is mountable snapshots15:18
bswartzthis is another I haven't reveiwed personally15:18
gansothis one needs more review attention. There is this snapshot_access helper that hasn't been reviewed at all, and I am trying to address Valeriy's comments, but I find some of them highly unfeasible due to time constraints15:19
bswartzganso: what are you suggesting?15:19
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gansoI suggest that we discuss some of those unfeasible items15:19
bswartzganso: you want us to compromise on that or are you suggesting we punt on the feature?15:19
gansomany of those comments are opposed to what's in the spec, and I personally do not see a problem with them15:20
bswartzganso: is it something we can cover in <5 minutes?15:20
gansobswartz: we can try, I'll try to summarize15:20
bswartzoh well if the code does what the spec says we should just merge it15:20
bswartzthe time for those comments was at spec review time15:21
vponomaryovbswartz: spec does not cover lots of places15:21
ganso1) Valeriy suggested that we use the existing export locations table instead of creating snapshot_export_locations table15:21
bswartz(in theory)15:21
bswartzwhy does that matter?15:21
gansoit is a big refactor to do that ^, and if we plan to do that later, we shouldn't do this now because db migrations will be more complicated in time15:21
bswartzvponomaryov: I don't think reuse of a DB table for something like this matters much]15:22
ganso2) Valeriy asked that the snapshot-export-locations and snapshot-instance-export-locations controllers to be merged into the snapshot controller... this is inconsistent with the shares controller15:22
vponomaryovwhat will be better for feature? - it is the question that should be answered15:22
bswartzreuse could have some small benefits but it also has some obvious downsides15:22
gouthamr let's take that discussion to the review. i agree with ganso here. i don't see the reason to overload. we didn't do this with group type specs when we could have just added another column to extra specs15:22
gansoand I personally find the above ^ harder to manage15:22
bswartzI think valeriy might be alone in his opinion about (1)15:23
vponomaryovit is support of 3 pairs of alike-tables15:24
vponomaryovthat will be the same all the time15:24
bswartzvponomaryov: similar but not necessarily identical15:24
bswartzthe flexibility to change them independently might matter someday15:24
bswartzand if it never does, we could merge them at some future time15:25
vponomaryovand ti was a question15:25
bswartzokay15:25
vponomaryovhave it been considered or no15:25
bswartz(2) seems to be like another implementation choice which won't matter much in the long run15:26
bswartzcode reuse is good, but if we overdo it we can build ourselves a straightjacket15:26
vponomaryovganso does not say that it is implemented different way than other alike-nested-objects15:26
bswartzcontrollers for snapshots and shares being different doesn't really bother me15:27
vponomaryov'shares' approach is not ideal15:27
vponomaryovspeaking from what-we-can-do point15:27
gansoto accomplish (2) it would require a lot of effort, it is a major api refactor considering how it is right now15:27
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bswartzwe can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good15:27
vponomaryovganso: it is not15:27
bswartzthe reality is that it's either good enough now or it's getting punted to pike15:28
gouthamrquote of the day :)15:28
gouthamri knew i didn't have to open the forbes website15:28
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gansoI think we haven't had enough reviewers to call out for "it looks good" or "it is mostly good"15:28
vponomaryovin toher words, Rodrigo says "we should merge it as is, no matter how many concers are raised"15:28
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bswartzI'm okay with punthing things to pike15:29
gansovponomaryov: I didn't say merge as is, I said we need reviewers... I personally do not agree with your 2 requests, but if there are other big requests that I agree with, I'd agree it should be punted to ocata15:29
bswartzbut in this case it sounds like we'd be doing so for reasons that wouldn't matter at all from an end user perspective15:29
ganso*pike ^15:29
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vponomaryovbswartz: ok, just mark it as need more eyes15:30
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bswartzI'm hearing that it's just code beauty issue15:30
vponomaryovit is code maintenance15:30
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bswartzyes maintainability matters, but something merging 2 things which are separate can make code harder to maintain15:31
bswartzit's a tough judgement call15:31
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bswartzs/something/sometimes/15:31
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vponomaryovthat is why we need more eyes there then )15:31
bswartzokay we'll try to get more eyes on mountable snapshots15:31
bswartzlet's move on15:31
bswartz#topic share groups15:32
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vponomaryovready15:32
bswartzoh I see markstur just added his name (or someone else added markstur)15:32
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vponomaryovonly xyang had comments, all are resolved15:32
marksturyeah. xyang looked lonely15:32
bswartzthanks markstur for signing up -- I can also help here but I'm spread a bit thin15:32
xyang1I'm going to test it, but so far it looks fine by code inspection15:32
cknightvponomaryov: add yourself as a co-author to the client patch15:33
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cknightvponomaryov: and potentially all of them15:33
bswartz#topic migration improvements15:33
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vponomaryovcknight: actually, even in server side I was "writing" some parts from scratch15:33
bswartzpersonally I care more about this one than mountable snasphots15:34
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gansoit is ready, just your comments are the last ones to be addressed, I am waiting for your response on some of them. Some of them touch decisions made far back in the past about share instances15:34
gouthamrYogi1 and I are testing migration improvements - afaics LGTM, we need test results that we'll post soon15:34
bswartzIt was pointed out to me today that snake_case is actually preferred to hyphen-case so I'm going to withdraw those comments15:34
gansothe comment about showing "error" snapshot instances15:35
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gansoit is valid based on the fact that the user needs to get rid of the error status in order to migrate15:35
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bswartzokay I'll take another look at this today15:35
gansobut we decided back then that when we have multiple instances, we only show the available or, more importantly, the active one that is under a transitional status15:35
gouthamr^ tbarron this relates to our discussion around share and share instance proxying too15:35
tbarronyes15:36
bswartzganso: let's keep that conversation going in PMs15:36
gansobswartz: ok15:36
bswartzI should point out that we have 2 netapp ppl signed up to review this and under our rules that's not enough to merge it15:36
tommylikehu_what is ppl15:37
gansotommylikehu_: people15:37
vponomaryovpeople )15:37
gouthamrtommylikehu_: people15:37
bswartzso if we can get a 3rd reviewer that would be great15:37
tommylikehu_thanks15:37
gansomarkstur and vponomaryov have contributed to reviewing migration15:37
* gouthamr gah, should have told tommylikehu_ that it stands for someone uber cool15:37
gansoxyang1 as well15:37
vponomaryovganso: tsss15:38
bswartzwe'll just need an extra +2 before we can workflow15:38
bswartzotherwise it will technically be a ninja merge of a major feature, which is bad15:38
bswartzalright that's it15:39
bswartzI'll say briefly that I have a good feeling about the specs process so far -- it's put a limit on how much stuff we've had to look at15:39
marksturthat was easy15:39
gouthamryeah it only took 40 mins15:40
bswartzI think I'd debatable whether we set the limit too high but we will revisit that question after FF15:40
bswartzokay ravichandran threw out a bunch of questions15:40
bswartz#topic Filterscheduler warning in logs15:40
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bswartzravichandran you here?15:40
bswartz     "WARNING manila.scheduler.manager [-] Scheduler driver path manila.scheduler.filter_scheduler.FilterScheduler is deprecated, update your configuration to the new path manila.scheduler.drivers.filter.FilterScheduler "15:41
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bswartzthis looks like an issue with the default value being deprecated?15:41
gouthamr^ we didn't have release notes back then...15:41
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tbarronprobably it's time to clean that one up15:41
bswartzwell I'm wondering if devstack has a bug15:41
gouthamralso, it's deprecated for over a release now.. we should remove the compatibility code15:42
bswartzwe should make sure we're not using the deprecated value first15:42
tbarronyeah, you said what I was trying to saY, gouthamr15:42
marksturbswartz: +115:42
bswartzmost of us ignore that kind of log spam I think15:43
bswartzbut it's an indication of a bug waiting to happen, so let's deal with it15:43
vponomaryovsuch kind of thing just should be proposed as gerrit patch, nothing to discuss IMHO15:43
bswartzyeah the issue is that ravichandran doesn't know that so we're telling everything15:43
bswartzand since ravichandran isn't here we'll skip the rest of his topics15:43
tbarronand right after FF is a good time for such changes15:43
gouthamr+115:44
bswartz#topic PTG15:44
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bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-pike-ptg-topics15:44
bswartzwe are still collecting topics15:44
gouthamr"How to see the recently committed changes to (master branch ) /config-reference/shared-file-systems/drivers/hpe-3par-share-driver.html in docs.openstack.org.(ravichandran)" -> http://docs.openstack.org/draft/config-reference/15:44
bswartzadd them to the etherpad as they come up15:44
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bswartzgouthamr:  just email/PM him directly15:45
bswartzPTG is just a month away15:45
tommylikehu_tbarron:  what is VMT process?15:46
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bswartznext week we'll give more time to PTG stuff but just reminding you to update the etherpad with topics that come up during code reviews, etc15:46
bswartz#topic open discussion15:46
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tbarrontommylikehu_: edited etherpad15:47
bswartzokay we have some time to cover anything else15:47
bswartzwe can go into more detail on issues with new features if we need to15:47
gansowe can discuss that one that snapshot instance 'error' status now if you prefer15:48
bswartzganso: I dunno if anyone else is interested in that15:48
bswartzbut if it's all we have, go ahead15:48
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gouthamrtbarron and i are... i think its a bigger topic for the ptg15:48
gansoso, you commented that ERROR status for snapshot instance should be shown instead of available15:49
bswartzyes15:49
gansobecause the user has to get rid of those in order to migrate15:49
bswartzif you have multiple instances and one of them is in an error state, it seems like the whole object must be in error too15:49
gansobut back then, we decided that we do not care about instances in those status unless they are the sole/active instance15:49
bswartzthat's a signal that an admin needs to go clean something up to return that share/snapshot to a healthy state15:50
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gansoyes, but in replication, and you do a manila list, why would you list that one if the active instance is "available" ?15:50
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gansothis, in fact, brings up the 2nd part of my question, which is, what does error represent? can we just ignore instances in 'error' status? would be a proper solution for me to code in migration to migrate and delete the error'ed ones that are left behind? I am concerned about possible data loss, if there is any data associated with those snapshot instances15:52
bswartzokay maybe this is the key15:52
bswartzwe shouldn't use error if it's something that can be safely ignored15:52
bswartzerror should be for when something needs admin attention15:53
bswartzfor replication we have the concept of "out of sync" replicas15:53
gouthamrganso: we no longer ignore error-ed instances in the access-rules API15:53
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gouthamrganso: maybe it's a question per action...15:54
bswartzthose are temporarily unusual but will eventually self-heal and become usable again15:54
gansogouthamr: we still do wrt share instances15:54
gansogouthamr: and there's possibly data in those instances15:54
tbarron'untable' ?15:54
bswartzs/unusual/unusable/15:54
gouthamrbswartz: yes, those replicas will never go to error15:55
tbarron'unstable' I mean, as a replacement for 'error' when it is temporarily unusable?15:55
bswartzIMO a migration error absolutely needs to be cleaned up before you can do more with that share15:55
gansobswartz: it is a previous snapshot instance in error status, before issuing migration-start15:55
bswartzignoring an error in a migration and trying to continue to operate on that share seems like it will lead to data loss with high probability15:55
bswartzwhat do you mean "previous"?15:56
bswartzwhen you start migrating you only have 1 instance15:56
gansobswartz: like, an existing snapshot with 2 instances15:56
bswartzand that instance is either healthy or not healthy15:56
bswartzganso: how could that happen?15:56
gansobswartz: driver assisted migration15:57
bswartzthose instances are created after you start the migration I thought15:57
gansobswartz: it is true that we do not support migration of replicated shares15:57
gansogouthamr: is there any way to have more than one snapshot instance on a non-replicated share?15:58
bswartzIMO the only way you can end up with error snapshot instance is if you already tried and failed to do a migration with preserve-snapshots15:58
gansobswartz: the destination instance is, but we are still consider one instance15:58
bswartzand in that case you need to completely clean up the error before you can proceed15:58
gansobswartz: yes, that scenario is handled15:59
gansobswartz:  I thought your comment was more generic15:59
bswartzso we can agree then that errors are always fatal and error status should appear first in the sort list15:59
gansobswartz: but we don't care about the destination instance15:59
bswartznon-fatal conditions should be called something other than error16:00
gansobswartz: the source/active instance must remain in available status16:00
gansobswartz: when migration fails and it is aborted, the destination instance is cleaned up16:00
gansobswartz: the only case not cleaned up is when migration-complete fails during a driver-assisted migration16:00
bswartzk16:00
gouthamrtime check16:00
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bswartzsorry my phone rang16:01
bswartz#endmeeting16:01
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hyakuhei#startmeeting Security16:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 16:59:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'16:59
hyakuheiOoops, 7 seconds early.16:59
lhindshey!17:00
hyakuheiHey lhinds !17:00
lhindshi hyakuhei17:00
hyakuheiNice to see you!17:00
lhindshappy new year (I was off for awhile)17:00
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hyakuheiLets wait a moment or two for others to roll in17:00
hyakuheiTo you too :)17:00
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knangiaO/17:01
rarorahi17:01
capnodayo/17:01
lhindso/17:01
hyakuheio/ hey guys17:02
sigmaviruso/17:02
hyakuheiAs you know we're looking to run a tight, 30 minute meeting17:02
sicarieo/17:02
hyakuheisicarie too! sweet17:02
michaelxino/17:02
hyakuhei#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda security agenda for this week17:02
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hyakuheiPlease feel free to add things to that and we'll try to fit everything in17:03
hyakuheihi tkelseym michaelxin17:03
hyakuheitkelsey17:03
tkelseyo/17:03
tkelseysorry im late17:03
michaelxinhyakuhei hi17:03
hyakuheiRighto, moving swiftly to the first item17:03
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hyakuhei#topic PTL17:03
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hyakuheiThe elections are this coming week, similar format as before I think (i.e Gerrit + ML announcement)17:03
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hyakuheiI will be standing for PTL after I secured time to spend on OpenStack PTL things from my mgmt17:04
capnodaygreat!17:04
michaelxincool17:04
michaelxinThanks17:04
hyakuheiI also encourage others to stand, new blood and all that :)17:04
capnodayanyone else want to run? michaelxin lhinds sicarie sigmavirus?17:04
redroboto/17:04
hyakuheiomg redrobot hai!17:05
sigmavirusWhy do people keep volunteering me to run for PTL or TC?17:05
hyakuheiJust talking PTL things17:05
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capnodayredrobot! fancy running or PTL17:05
hyakuheisigmavirus you seem to know all the things.17:05
michaelxinhaha17:05
lhindsi think on a later cycle maybe17:05
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sigmavirushyakuhei: but I have none of the time ;)17:05
lhindshappy hyakuhei is going forward for now17:05
sigmavirusAnd I'm a master of illusion17:05
redrobotcapnoday nay...  unless hyakuhei is retiring, then... maybe?17:05
hyakuheiOk, the PTL info isn't always the easiest to find, let me know if you're interested and I'll hook you up with the relevant stuff.17:05
hyakuheiredrobot not this time around ;)17:06
hyakuheiAny questions on PTL things before we move on?17:06
hyakuhei(Other than capnoday trying to replace me with pretty much anyone...)17:06
sicarienope, good luck!17:06
hyakuheicheers17:06
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hyakuheiRight, next up is the PTG - not far away now17:06
hyakuhei#topic PTG17:06
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hyakuhei#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-security-team17:07
sigmavirushyakuhei: I think capnoday wants healthy competition =P17:07
redrobotI've got my fingers crossed that I'll get to go...17:07
hyakuheiAs we discussed at length previously, resources are tight and we don't have a huge number of people going. That doesn't mean others can't contribute remotely though.17:07
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hyakuheiInteresting topic just been added there re: Barbican/Vault17:08
hyakuheiMy expectation is that it may be easier to have a Barbican plugin for Vault, similar to the KMIP plugin that doesn't do anything clever with MKEK etc, just uses Vault as it's store.17:09
redrobotyeah, my use case has changed from wanting to run a global hsm-backed barbican deployment to runnin many software-based small barbican deployments.17:09
hyakuheiHah17:09
hyakuheiwho knew that would happen....17:09
* hyakuhei hides.17:09
redrobotso I did spend some time looking into the wiring17:09
capnodayhahaha17:09
redrobotthe tricky part is mapping Keystone tokens to Vault tokens17:09
hyakuheiI suspect the number of people who care about secrets greatly outnumbers those with HSMs17:10
capnodaycant they just deploy dogtag?17:10
sigmavirusredrobot: perhaps there's a need for vault to learn about keystone tokens?17:10
sigmaviruscapnoday: I've been informed that dogtag is quite difficult17:10
sigmavirusI never got to that point of a PoC for my team though17:10
hyakuheisigmavirus I don't think they're accepting contributions for the AuthN magic at the moment17:10
hyakuheiMight have changed though17:10
redrobotsigmavirus that's one option... but I still think it may be easier to avoid Vault altogether17:10
hyakuheiAnyway, lets push Vault to the back of the queue for a moment17:11
hyakuheiKeeping in mind the meeting length17:11
redrobotie, take the Simple Crypto plugin and add an API call to provide the encryption key at runtime instead of having it in the conf file17:11
hyakuheiSo good to have on the PTG topic list17:11
hyakuheisssh redrobot17:11
redrobotlol17:11
* sigmavirus chuckles17:11
hyakuhei#topic Naughty words17:11
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redrobotyeah, should be a fun discussion at the PTG17:11
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redrobotpoop!17:11
redrobotdoodoo17:11
hyakuheiThis might be interesting to the Syntribos folks17:11
hyakuhei#link https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings17:11
hyakuheiI made a note to bring that up, now I have17:12
hyakuhei:)17:12
hyakuheiunrahul michaelxin knangia ^^^17:12
hyakuheiSome potentially useful stuff there I'm sure17:12
michaelxinWe saw it. Thakns.17:12
redrobot(btw, I mostly came here today to remind hyakuhei to submit his PTL candidacy so we don't get yelled at by the TC again)17:12
knangiathanks !17:12
hyakuheiFigured as much17:12
hyakuheiredrobot thanks bro!17:12
hyakuhei#topic OSSN17:12
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michaelxinredrobot: +117:13
hyakuheilhinds welcome back from holiday, what's going on with OSSN ?17:13
hyakuhei#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn17:13
hyakuheiSo I see three in there. All private.17:13
lhindsso we have two privates, with authors of hyakuhei and tmcpeak17:13
lhindsyours is very close hyakuhei17:13
lhindsyou just need to look at comment #22 and we should be able to get that out17:14
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hyakuheiIt's interesting that we have so many private these days, I think because we are being used as a catch-all for the VMT where a project isn't supported by them.17:14
sigmaviruslhinds: if you need help, let me know. I see two on that list and have context on them17:14
lhindsI will catch up with tmcpeak when I next see him online17:14
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lhindssure sigmavirus , you could take the one to tmcpeak if you like?17:14
sigmavirusOh I wasn't volunteering to write one =P but if tmcpeak needs me to, I can take it over17:15
sigmavirusI need to read how to do an OSSN on a private issue17:15
lhindsI will try and catch him (he might be PTO), and see where he is.17:16
lhindsand its likely to be public soon too.17:16
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sigmavirusOkay17:17
hyakuheiI'll update that OSSN assigned to me in the 30 minutes I get back from this shorter meeting17:17
hyakuheiAnything else lhinds ?17:17
lhindsthats it for notes. the other thing is I am getting in touch with infra about hosting the OSSN web / api.17:17
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lhindsnice thanks hyakuhei17:17
lhindsthats it for notes17:17
hyakuheiCool17:17
hyakuheiThen we're onto AOB17:17
hyakuhei#topic Any Other Business17:17
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hyakuheiAnything you want to bring up? Discuss Vault some more redrobot ? etc?17:17
redrobotI'm sure y'all saw the huge Barbican thread on the ML17:18
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sigmavirusredrobot: you're welcome and I'm sorry17:18
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redrobotlooks like the TC will be considering what the base "secrets vault" will be17:18
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hyakuheiYeah that was interesting17:18
redrobotso it looks like we will be going through the incubation ringer again17:19
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sigmavirusOn the bright side, Glare is no longer publicly planning to be a secrets store17:19
hyakuheiThough it did get somewhat clobbered by the whole "big tent bad" thing17:19
sigmavirushyakuhei: yeah, people on the ML do that to any thread they can17:19
redrobotyeah, there were some valid concerns like keystone token scope not being narrow enough17:19
sigmavirusalways the same persons too17:19
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redrobotso, it sounds like we'll have to make the case that barbican is secure to the Arch Working Group17:20
redrobotand they'll compare it to Vault and Keewhiz and whetever else17:20
capnodaysecure and useful?17:20
redrobotI'm a little concerned because they could also kill Barbican altogether17:20
hyakuheiFor software only crypto, it isn't comparable today imho17:20
redrobothyakuhei +!17:21
redroboterr +117:21
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redrobotyeah, which is why I think that improving Simple Crypto plugin will be important17:21
hyakuhei+117:21
dave-mccowansigmavirus also on barbican: i've submitted patches to get tags for stable-branch, standard-deprecation, and vmt-managed.  all are still in review.  thanks for bringing that up on the ML.17:21
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sigmavirusdave-mccowan: ++17:22
hyakuheidave-mccowan good stuff17:22
sigmavirusI was about to start a thread on the ML about why the project navigator is developed on GitHub17:22
redrobotI think a Vault plugin would be valuable, but only to folks who already have vault17:22
sigmavirusbut decided two ranty threads a week was my limit17:22
redrobotfor someone with no existing KMS running both Vault AND Barbican seem like too much overhead17:22
sigmavirusredrobot: agreed17:22
hyakuheiSo instead of using a well audited soft-hsm we're going to build one ourselves?17:23
hyakuheiCertainly sounds like the OpenStack way...17:23
redrobotlol17:23
sigmavirushyakuhei: absolutely17:23
redrobotthe alternative is to abandon Barbican altogheter. :(17:23
redrobotand just build a Vault auth plugin for Keystone17:23
hyakuheiI don't think anyone wants taht17:24
hyakuhei*that17:24
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redrobotI also explored using SoftHSM with our existing PKCS#11 plugin https://www.opendnssec.org/softhsm/17:24
redrobotbut it's not scalable17:25
redrobotor at least it wasn't ovious to me how we could scale it.17:25
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sigmavirusmhayden: have you ever seen softhsm?17:25
hyakuheiInteresting. This certainly sounds like a good thing to spend time on at the PTG17:26
* sigmavirus wonders if mhayden knows someone or has cycles17:26
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redrobotyup...  also thinking that a Vault vs Barbican prezo in Boston would be a good thing to hvae17:26
redrobot*have17:27
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hyakuheiIt does kinda look like it might be less work to extend Vault's AppRole scheme than build a new SoftHSM. However, I'm happy to be involved in either .17:27
capnodayI am very against building a new softhsm unless absolutely necessary. I would even consider posting on the mailing list to say so!17:28
hyakuheiok, last couple of minutes.17:28
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hyakuheiUseful meeting all, it seems like we can wrap it here :) thanks!17:28
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redrobotcapnoday so you're arguing for asking operators to run 2 services to run barbican.  :-\17:29
redrobotkk, see y'all next time friends!17:29
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capnodayredrobot lets talk more on this next time/offline17:29
hyakuhei#endmeeting17:30
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hyakuheiTY all!17:30
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lhindsthanks!17:31
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vgridnev#startmeeting sahara18:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 18:01:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'18:01
tenobrego/18:01
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vgridnev#topic News / updates18:03
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tenobregStorm integration on vanilla plugin is getting closer to being done. Still hitting some problems on starting the storm services but it is a lot better now18:04
vgridnevWorking basically on preparing release O3 for sahara; will perform some tests18:05
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vgridnevAlso very soon we will have full list of all approved travel support grantees for PTG, I already have tickets and accommodation booked for this event18:06
toskyright now, working on a minimal patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1657482 (and related backport to newton)18:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1657482 in Sahara "[DIB] Image building fails for CDH when sahara-image-create is called with no version" [Undecided,New]18:08
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vgridnevtosky, seems like a trivial issue, isn't it?18:08
toskynot exactly if you want to ensure that the variable is always properly initialized without interfering with other code18:09
toskythe patch will be out soon18:09
toskywhen a full run of sahara-image-create for cdh on centos7 ends18:09
vgridnev#topic Open discussion18:11
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vgridnevAnything else we can cover today?18:12
vgridnevWho is going to PTG, folks?18:12
tenobregme18:12
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vgridnevMe : )18:12
vgridnevI hope esikachev18:12
esikachevyep)18:13
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tenobregno one else?18:13
vgridnevEgafford?18:13
vgridnevRisky?18:13
tenobregshe won't make it18:14
tenobregnor is tosky18:14
toskynot this time18:14
vgridnevReally sad18:14
esikachev(18:15
vgridnevI hope we can make some kind of conference, so that other people can take part18:16
raissaI would love to18:16
tenobregthere was en email about that18:16
vgridnevtenobreg, can you give some link to that?18:16
vgridnevI missed18:16
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tenobreg#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110137.html18:17
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vgridnevUh, I heard that someone from easy stack will take part at the PTG18:18
toskyoh18:18
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tenobregthat is good, who do we have from easy stack?18:19
tenobregproblably Shu Yingya18:19
vgridnevShu Yingya18:20
vgridnev:)18:20
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toskythe more important thing to allow people to join remotely is to set up a good microphone (not just for the person in front of it)18:20
vgridnevI will clarify18:20
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vgridnevI will clarify about plans of Shu Yingya, not about microphone*18:21
toskyeheh18:22
tenobregvgridnev, good clarification18:22
tenobreglol18:22
tenobregabout the microphone, it would be interesting to request to TC??18:23
tenobregthey could provide some good hardware18:23
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vgridnevtenobreg, actually it's not TC question, actually that is problem of the organization team. tenobreg I would recommend to send letter to ptg@openstack.org and ask them directly18:25
vgridnevCould you please do this, tenobreg?18:25
tenobregvgridnev, sure, I can reach out to them18:25
vgridnevThanks, that will be helpful18:25
vgridnevAnything else we can cover today? If not, I'd like to say that next is a week of O3 release, so if you have something we can put into these releases, ask me18:27
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vgridnevOk, thanks folks18:28
vgridnev#endmeeting18:29
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