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prometheanfire#startmeeting requirements10:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 10:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.10:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.10:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)"10:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'10:00
prometheanfire#topic rollcall10:00
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dirko/10:01
prometheanfiredirk: might just be us10:02
dirkprobably, toabctl is still off10:02
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dirkwe need more regular contributors :)10:03
prometheanfireindeed10:03
prometheanfire#topic agenda10:03
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prometheanfire#topic Any controversies in the Queue?10:03
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prometheanfire#link https://review.openstack.org/42057910:03
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prometheanfirethat's the only one I have10:04
prometheanfireit's beind discussed on the lists already10:04
prometheanfiredirk: you have anything?10:05
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dirkother than monasca / kafka10:05
dirkit would be good to take a look at the pending issues10:05
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dirkwe have psutils, eventlet, and webob as major things to do right now10:06
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prometheanfireya, I'd like to see what happens if we update the UC on psutils10:07
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dirkthe question is whether we try that soonish10:08
prometheanfiredon't think we can get the other two before freeze.10:08
dirkI would vote for that10:08
prometheanfireya10:08
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dirkbut we have oslo.reports and one other component blocking this10:08
prometheanfire?10:08
dirkoslo.reports has a requirements cap10:08
dirkso we need a newer release that includes the uncapping10:08
dirkand there was one tripleo component that had the same issue10:08
prometheanfireare they not consuming gr?10:09
prometheanfireI thought all of oslo would be at least10:09
dirkthey are, but they need to merge the openstack bot proposal update and then do a release, and we need to update to the new release10:09
prometheanfireugh10:09
dirkand the tripleo-component is on follows-release, so the next release would be after the freeze10:09
prometheanfireya10:09
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prometheanfirewell, we have to just poke them I guess10:10
prometheanfirethey probably want to do a release this week anyway10:10
prometheanfirejust make sure our stuff gets in10:11
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prometheanfireI'll try to find someone for that10:11
prometheanfireany other ideas on that front?10:11
prometheanfireok, moving on10:14
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dirkthe last topic is kombu 410:14
dirkthere is some movement to release a kombu 4 compatible messaging10:14
prometheanfirethanks, because the wiki is outdated10:14
prometheanfirehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Requirements10:14
prometheanfireok, so same problem there10:15
dirkI'm in favor of doing that, but we seem to have questions on ordering10:15
prometheanfiresure10:16
dirkhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/410176/10:16
dirkis the discussion of that10:16
prometheanfirewell, in the past it was top down10:18
dirk?10:18
prometheanfire'upstream' breaks, then downstreams fix10:18
prometheanfirewe are upstream10:18
prometheanfireso we bump, they break, then fix10:18
prometheanfirethe best way is if there's some crossover10:18
prometheanfireit seems like they don't want to do that work though10:20
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prometheanfireit doesn't seem like there patch is too complex, (to make work with both), but I don't know kombu or oslo.messaging10:21
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prometheanfireso, not sure that'll get in either10:22
prometheanfirekinda seeming like ocata is newton.110:22
prometheanfiredirk: that seem right?10:23
dirkprometheanfire: I'm fine with that approach of breaking when we have the core teams from oslo.messaging and the release prepared10:24
dirkmight be easy enough if we get all the attention needed on this this week10:25
prometheanfireok, just be sure to note in reviews and ping people then10:25
prometheanfiremoving on10:27
prometheanfireI have nothing10:27
prometheanfireopen discussion?10:27
prometheanfire#topi open discussion10:29
prometheanfire#topic open discussion10:30
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prometheanfire#endmeeting10:32
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prometheanfiredirk: that's done, bed time now :P10:32
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 14:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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zhurongdevkulkarni hi14:01
devkulkarnihi zhurong14:01
devkulkarnilets wait for a minute to see if avnish or caowei join us as well14:01
devkulkarniAblu informed me that he won't be able to join today14:01
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AbluHi, atm I am still there. But I need to leave any second14:02
devkulkarnizhurong: in the mean time you can take a look at the agenda14:02
AbluBut I have nothing to contribute I fear14:02
devkulkarnihttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2017-01-18_1400_UTC14:02
devkulkarniAblu: ack14:02
devkulkarnigood to have you chime in as that way your presence/participation gets recorded in the meeting logs14:02
devkulkarniAblu: you also can browse through the agenda14:03
AbluI do atm :P14:03
devkulkarnialright, lets begin14:04
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devkulkarni#topic Announcements14:04
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devkulkarnidevkulkarni to attend Atlanta PTG - February 20 - February 2214:04
devkulkarniI will be attending PTG14:04
zhurongcool14:04
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devkulkarniI remember we had started an etherpad for the PTG14:05
devkulkarniif any of you have it handy somewhere (bookmarked) then can you share that14:05
devkulkarniif not, I will go through the logs and find it out later14:05
devkulkarniwe should keep on adding/updating that etherpad about things that we want to accomplish at PTG14:06
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devkulkarnimy main goal is going to be to work with the release team to understand various goals for Pike14:06
devkulkarniand figure out what would it take for us to achieve those14:07
devkulkarniapart from that, probably touch base with magnum and/or zun team to understand what their next priorities are so that we can figure out how that may affect our roadmap14:07
devkulkarnizhurong, Ablu: any other points that you think we should consider to achieve at the PTG?14:08
zhurongagree14:08
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zhurongnp at this moment14:09
devkulkarniok14:09
Ablusorry. I do not really think I can contribute to that. I do not know all the other targets14:09
Ablui mean from open stack in general14:09
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devkulkarniwe still have time till the PTG14:09
devkulkarniAblu: sure14:09
devkulkarniare there any other announcements?14:09
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zhurongnp14:10
devkulkarnialright. lets move to discussion items14:10
devkulkarni#topic Discussion14:10
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devkulkarni1) PTL Elections  Nominations: Jan 18 - Jan 29 https://governance.openstack.org/election/14:11
devkulkarniPTL nomination period is about to open in few hours14:11
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zhurongyou should be the right man :)14:12
devkulkarniI plan to submit nomination for upcoming cycle to keep the continuity. But if any of you interested in taking up this role in the future, lets work on it in this cycle so that for the next one you would be ready to take it up14:13
devkulkarnizhurong: :)14:13
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devkulkarnizhurong: just let me know if you are ever interested in the role. would be happy to help you to get towards it14:15
zhurongdevkulkarni did you submit topic to boston summit?14:15
AbluI need to leave now... Have a nice day :)14:15
devkulkarnizhurong: I had it on my list to things to do, but have not submitted it. Is the deadline for submission over?14:16
devkulkarniAblu: see you14:16
zhurongI think next cycle I can not do it, I should learn more to let myself to fit with the role.14:16
zhurong12AM PST (0800 UTC), FEBRUARY 6, 2017!14:17
devkulkarnizhurong: I can understand.14:17
devkulkarnicool, thanks for sharing the date14:17
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devkulkarnilets work on it in next couple of weeks14:18
zhuronghope for next cycle I can take over the role. :D14:18
devkulkarni+1 :)14:18
devkulkarnidefinitely14:18
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devkulkarniI would be more than happy to help you getting ready for the role in the Pike cycle14:18
devkulkarnithen in the following cycle you can take over the role14:19
zhurongdevkulkarni thx14:19
devkulkarnigreat14:20
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devkulkarniso the next discussion topic is the ocata release14:20
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devkulkarni2) Ocata release deadline Feb 16:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-release-actions14:21
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devkulkarnizhu, so one of the things that needs to be done in the PTL role is to track emails about releases and then work with the release team to cut a release14:22
devkulkarnion the etherpad above I have added link to the relevant email which states the deadline for project like ours that follow release-with-intermediary release model14:23
devkulkarnithe deadline is Feb 1614:23
devkulkarnido you want to take a shot at working on this release this time?14:23
zhurongsure, I can do this14:24
devkulkarniawesome!14:24
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devkulkarniI can help you if there are any blockers14:25
devkulkarnizhurong: I have added you to the solum-release group https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/231,members14:26
zhurongthat's cool, with your help I think I can do it well :D14:26
devkulkarni:)14:26
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devkulkarnion our wiki, there is a section "OpenStack related things"14:27
devkulkarnihttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum14:27
devkulkarniunder that there is a subsection 'Cutting a release'14:27
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devkulkarniessentially, you need to follow the steps listed there14:28
zhurongsure, I will14:29
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devkulkarnithere might have been recent changes to the process. you can reach out to folks on openstack-release channel to understand the latest requirements14:29
devkulkarnibut it should be straightforward14:29
zhurongcool, If I have questions, I will ping you. :D14:30
devkulkarniperfect. was about to say exactly that :)14:30
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devkulkarniok, lets move to other topics.. I have three listed in the agenda -- Pike goal (python 3 support), python 3.5 for dsvm jobs, and replacing nova-docker with zun.. which one you want to talk about first?14:31
zhurongpython 3.5 for dsvm jobs this had done14:31
zhurongand I tried add enable zun in the jobs14:32
zhurongin python 3.5 for dsvm jobs14:32
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devkulkarnilistening..14:32
zhurongsomething wrong in install python-zunclient14:33
devkulkarnihave you pinged zun team about it?14:33
zhurongI don't sure wether this just happen in py3.514:33
zhurongI asked in there IRC channel, but they haven't seen the error14:34
devkulkarniI see. do you have stack trace of the error?14:35
devkulkarniwe can document that in a bug report for solum14:35
zhurongpython-zunclient do not have a release version, so just install from git14:35
zhuronghttp://logs.openstack.org/24/416224/14/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial-nv/3cd6c4c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-01-17_08_48_53_09314:35
zhurongIn my devstack env, using py2.7, that can install successful14:36
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devkulkarnidid you share that with the zun team? what did they say?14:37
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zhurongthey haven't seen this error14:37
zhurongmaybe they just using py2.714:37
devkulkarnieven in python3.5?14:38
devkulkarniprobably you are right14:38
zhurongbut we py3.5 dsvm job is red14:38
devkulkarniso imo there are two different things.. one is for us to move to using zun and second is to have py3.5 dsvm non-voting job14:38
devkulkarniif with py27 zun will work then we should not worry about py3.5 dsvm job being red14:39
devkulkarnibecause we can document the issue14:39
zhurongI want to add enable zun to py27 job14:39
devkulkarniand say that our ability to satisfy the goal would depend on zun working with py3.514:39
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zhurongbut I not sure this will be green, that's will cause block the gate14:40
devkulkarniyes, that's what I am thinking too14:40
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devkulkarniwe should enable zun with py2.7, which should be our main voting dsvm job (xenial)14:40
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devkulkarniwe should add another non-voting dsvm job for python 3.514:41
devkulkarniand let that be red14:41
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zhurongnon-voting dsvm job for python 3.5 this is already done14:41
devkulkarniyou are right http://logs.openstack.org/24/416224/14/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial-nv/3cd6c4c/14:42
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devkulkarniin that case, lets enable zun in our voting dsvm job (keeping it python 2.7)14:42
devkulkarnisee the main thing we want to have is a replacement for nova-docker in place14:42
devkulkarniwith zun we will be able to do that14:42
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devkulkarnihaving a voting py3.5 dsvm job is another thing14:43
zhurongyep, voting py3.5 dsvm job is not in a hurry14:43
devkulkarniand our ability to achieve that goal will depend on how quickly zun team will ensure python3.5 support14:43
devkulkarniyep14:44
devkulkarnibut having a replacement for nova-docker is something that we need to do sooner than later14:44
devkulkarniso if you testing with using zun is working, I would say please go ahead and enable zun in our gate jobs14:45
devkulkarniand also in plugin.sh, local.conf, etc.14:45
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devkulkarniplease also add a section to the solum wiki14:45
devkulkarniyou can add a new section to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/solum-development-setup14:46
zhurongsure, I submit enable zun in py27 job right now, If failed we should fix this14:46
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zhurongI will add after test successfully14:47
devkulkarnimakes sense14:47
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devkulkarnibtw, you were able to test end-to-end using zun, right? i.e., creating a languagepack, creating and deploying an app, checking logs, etc.?14:47
devkulkarnimy devstack setup is currently broken so I am not in a position to test it end-to-end right now14:48
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zhurongI will finish the test in few days14:49
devkulkarnisounds good14:49
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devkulkarniwe should try to get the zun setup working before the PTG14:49
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zhurongIf the add enable zun to py2.7 job, and the gate is green, I think it can work well14:50
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devkulkarniit will be a big achievement for us as currently because of our dependency on nova-docker, we have had to peg our devstack setup for specific commits of nova and neutron. all of that will go away. we will be able to work with their stable branches14:51
devkulkarnizhurong: just to confirm, you do have a setup where you are able to test end-to-end, right?14:51
zhurongyep, definitely14:52
devkulkarniperfect14:52
devkulkarnione of these days I will work on my end-to-end setup as well14:52
devkulkarniwill ping you in case I run into any issues14:52
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devkulkarnicool,14:53
devkulkarnione last topic is that of the Pike goal regarding Python 3 support14:53
devkulkarnithis is the etherpad where we are collecting the artifacts related to this goal: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-python35-goal14:54
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devkulkarniwhat we should do sometime is to go through each our our repositories and one by one check if we satisfy  all the requirements related to the goal14:54
zhurongseems all done14:55
devkulkarniI think we are pretty close14:55
devkulkarniyes, I also think we are done14:55
devkulkarnibut it will be good if we just tabulate against each requirement, how we are satisfying it (either list the patch which was submitted, or where in our code the requirement is already getting satisfied)14:56
devkulkarnisuch a table would be required when we submit a patch to claim that we have satisfied the goal14:56
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devkulkarniagain, if we can achieve this before the PTG that would be super14:56
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devkulkarnicool, we are almost at the end of our meeting time14:57
devkulkarnianything else that we should discuss?14:57
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zhurongwe can discuss in the channel14:58
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devkulkarnisure14:58
devkulkarnilets continue in the channel then14:58
devkulkarniI will end the meeting now14:59
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devkulkarnithanks zhurong Ablu for joining today. see you next week14:59
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devkulkarni#endmeeting14:59
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Swamihi15:00
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haleybhi there15:00
haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:01
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openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 15:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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haleyb#chair Swami15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:01
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jschwarzhello15:02
Swamijschwarz: hi15:02
haleyb#topic Announcements15:02
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* haleyb had a weird cut/paste issue there for a second15:02
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haleybOcata-3 is iminent15:03
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haleybwe need to make sure bugs are listed on https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-3 that we want to land fixes for15:04
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Swamihaleyb: we may have to add couple of DVR bugs to the list I don't see them, like the floatingip static routes, metering bug and also the RFE.15:05
haleybAlso, add items to the PTG list at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike15:05
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haleybSwami: i can add them after the meeting15:06
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:06
haleybAny other announcements from the team?15:07
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haleyb#topic Bugs15:07
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Swamihaleyb: thanks15:08
Swamihaleyb: I did not see any new bugs for this week so far. I am not sure if I missed anything.15:08
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haleybSwami: i didn't see any new ones either, unless they were opened this morning15:09
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Swamijschwarz: do you have any priority bugs that we need to discuss.15:09
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jschwarzSwami, not a bug but a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376550/15:10
jschwarzhaleyb, last week we discussed this and we said that we wanted to do complete tempest coverage for all possible migrations15:10
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165499115:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1654991 in neutron "Update of DVR router to be HA fails with 'HAmodeUpdateOfDvrNotSupported'" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:10
jschwarzhaleyb, however, this seems a bit unlikely for Ocata as it's right upon us, and there are some requirements to be met first15:10
Swamijschwarz: yes I remember and you also had a test patch.15:11
haleybjschwarz: yes, since we were removing the check15:11
jschwarzspecifically, there's no HA gate yet...15:11
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418276/15:11
jschwarzis it possible to merge the patch and add new tests over time?15:11
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jschwarzSwami, alas, the test patch is not mine ;-)15:12
haleybjschwarz: do those code paths get tested in a single-node HA setup?15:12
Swamijschwarz: You mean new tests in tempest?15:12
jschwarzSwami, yes15:12
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jschwarzhaleyb, we don't test them as part of upstream migration process15:13
jschwarzhaleyb, but we have the DVR gates that check legacy + dvr and once we'll have a HA gate we'll be able to test HA and DVR+HA15:14
jschwarzhaleyb, in other words, we check connectivity as a whole for legacy and DVR (and in the future, HA)15:14
jschwarzjust not in a migration15:14
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Swamijschwarz: we don't support migration of DVR routers to legacy routers I thought.15:19
jschwarzquite the net split..15:19
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haleybjschwarz: that would be my preference without testing, but that devstack-gate and infra patch could merge soon, right?15:19
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jschwarzSwami, we aren't - that's what my patch intends to enable, though15:19
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jschwarzhaleyb, could15:20
haleybSwami: what jschwarz said, i think the only remaining issue was vpnaas15:20
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jschwarzright, so I'll see about getting that infra patch merged15:20
jschwarzanilvenkata, ^15:20
Swamijschwarz: ok that would be right direction to go forward.15:20
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anilvenkatahaleyb, Swami jschwarz we need Armando's review for that patch15:21
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Swamianilvenkata: follow up with him or add it to the agenda for the PTG, just to make sure we have something in place to test for ocata.15:22
anilvenkataSwami, sure15:22
anilvenkatathanks Swami15:22
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Swamiok, can we move on to the next one15:23
Swamijschwarz: do you have anything else.15:23
jschwarzSwami, nope :)15:24
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SwamiI did see there is another bug and patch on your name.15:24
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164743215:24
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jschwarzSwami, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407099/15:24
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jschwarzI need to answer some reviews - hopefully a new revision will be up tomorrow15:24
Swamijschwarz: thanks for the patch lin.15:24
Swamijschwarz: thanks15:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1647432 in neutron "Multiple SIGHUPs to keepalived might trigger re-election" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:25
SwamiThe next in the list is15:25
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164423115:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1644231 in neutron "fip router config is not created if the vm ports attached to FIPs have no device_owner" [Low,Triaged]15:25
jschwarzis that ajo's?15:25
Swamihaleyb: I had a question on this. We discussed about having a doc to provide information about the port-binding.15:26
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haleybSwami: yes, i think i said i'd take that, and update the docs (whereever they may be)15:26
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Swamihaleyb: I will find a right topic to add this to the documentation. I had some challenge in finding out the right section, since the DVR is only discussed in different implementations and not about the port-binding.15:27
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SwamiOk we can move on15:27
haleybSwami: it maybe can be in the port create doc, even if it is specific to DVR15:27
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Swamihaleyb: ok15:28
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164441515:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1644415 in neutron "dvr_edge_ha_router disassociates floatingip incompletely" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhixin Li (lizhixin)15:28
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404571/ - patch link.15:29
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SwamiThe owner of the patch have not added any tests. I am working on adding a functional test to this patch. I will post it today.15:29
SwamiThen we can review it again.15:29
SwamiOtherwise there is nothing else to discuss in this bug.15:29
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160674115:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1606741 in neutron "Metadata service for instances is unavailable when the l3-agent on the compute host is dvr_snat mode" [Medium,In progress]15:30
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/35268615:30
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haleybNo udpated in 2 months15:31
Swamihaleyb: last week I had a action item to fix the merge conflicts and rebase the patch, but then I noticed the review comments on this patch and based on the review comments it seems that we need to come up with a different approach since both carl and assaf had requested to go with different approach.15:31
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Swamihaleyb: need more work on it.15:33
haleybSwami: yes, at this point it's probably not Ocata material15:33
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Swamihaleyb: yes15:33
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150656715:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1506567 in neutron "No information from Neutron Metering agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:33
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/377108 - patch link15:34
SwamiNeeds review and can be targeted for Ocata-315:34
haleybI need to review that today15:34
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haleybjust targeted to o-315:35
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:35
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157167615:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1571676 in neutron "After binding a floating IP to VM, the static route can't work in DVR." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:35
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/ - patch link15:35
SwamiNeeds review and also should be targeted for o-315:35
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157748815:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1577488 in neutron "[RFE]"Fast exit" for compute node egress flows when using DVR" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:36
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Swamihaleyb: this can also be targeted for o-315:36
SwamiI did see that there is a test failure in the patch that you uploaded yesterday.15:36
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haleybSwami: ok, i'll add those two, don't know if i broke that second one with my update15:37
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/15:37
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haleybit passed locally, haven't looked at logs yet15:37
SwamiOk, let me take a look at it.15:37
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SwamiThat's all I had for bugs today.15:37
haleybok, thanks Swami15:38
haleybjschwarz: any HA bugs we missed?15:38
jschwarzhaleyb, nope :)15:38
haleyb#topic Gate15:39
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haleybno DVR failures in the gate that i now of :)15:39
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Swamihaleyb: good for the day15:39
haleybstill need to update https://review.openstack.org/410973 to make multinode job voting15:39
* haleyb knocks on wood as well15:39
haleyb#topic Stable backports15:40
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haleybihar ran a script to find backport candidates, some already proposed, i'll look through remaining bugs15:40
SwamiI working on couple of backports. I pushed in two patches today. One more to come and I will also see is there any other backports.15:41
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421983/15:41
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421989/15:41
haleybSwami: yes, feel free to add me, i'll usually show up once jenkins is happy on those15:41
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Swamihaleyb: thanks, will do15:42
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Swamijschwarz: you mentioned you had a bunch of backports for HA last week, is it done.15:42
haleybjschwarz: you had a series of HA backports i added to the meeting page, don't know if they all mreged, some have15:42
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jschwarzhaleyb, Swami, I'll have to look at that list and report back next week15:43
Swamijschwarz: ok no problem.15:43
jschwarzI haven't had too much free time this week outside working on a few of my patches15:43
haleybjschwarz: i'll remove or mark the ones that merge since i'm editing the pag already15:43
jschwarzhaleyb, thanks :)15:43
haleyb#topic Open discussion15:44
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jschwarznothing from me this week ^_^15:45
Swamihaleyb: i have a question on IPv615:45
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haleybjschwarz: they all merged, so i will clean up the wiki15:45
haleybSwami: yup15:45
jschwarzhaleyb, ^_^ ^_^15:45
jschwarzawesome!15:45
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haleybSwami: still here?15:47
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Swami_sorry got disconnection15:47
Swami_s/disconnection/disconnected15:47
Swami_haleyb: I am back15:47
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Swami_my question is related to fast-path exit if IPv6 address exist.15:48
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Swami_Today we do have the internal rfp and fpr ports that connect the router namespace to fip namespace and both those ports have a link local address for ipv6.15:48
haleybSwami_: i don't think we can do that yet, since if we did PD the downstream router for the subnet is the centralized one15:49
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Swami_haleyb: but you mentioned that we can run a partial PD or something from the fip namespace, if I remember right.15:49
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haleybif we use subnetpools, we can hack things to make the Fip namespace to proxy ND15:50
haleybs/to/do15:50
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Swami_haleyb: yes the context is with the subnetpools for the fast-path exit if the subnetpools scope match for ipv6.15:51
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haleybSwami_: what we really need is a way to do route injection, that way the fip namespace can be the downstream for a single IPv6 address15:51
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haleybSwami_: with a subnetpool we'd just need a little work, there was a patch for the proxy ND work15:52
Swami_haleyb: ok will investigate it further. In that case still the rfp and fpr ports can still just have a link-local-address and we should be able to forward the IPv6 traffic to the fipnamespace and get it back, right.15:52
haleybSwami_: i think so, yes.  the review was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143917/ and it's rather large, but the proxy ND piece i believe is there15:54
Swami_haleyb: ok will take a look at it.15:54
haleybi think i've run those 'ip neigh' commands by hand to make it work at least15:55
Swami_haleyb: Also for the PTG, one discussion item would be the DVR floatingip with unbound ports. This is pending for a long time and have not seen the tunnel. We need to get a consensus on our approach.15:55
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Swami_s/seen the tunnel/seen the light of the tunnel15:55
haleybYes, that would be good to add15:55
haleybi knew what you meant :)15:55
Swami_haleyb: thanks15:56
haleybSwami_: are you going tot he PTG?  is anyone else here?15:56
Swami_haleyb: I am not sure given the current situation.15:56
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Swami_haleyb: You should be going.15:56
Swami_haleyb: i have not even asked the mgmt yet.15:56
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haleybSwami_: i am on vacation that week, Mexico is warmer than Atlanta :)15:56
Swami_haleyb: enjoy your vacation then, there is always going to be a PTG report.15:57
haleybjschwarz: are you going?  i'm assuming ihar is15:57
Swami_haleyb: hopefully you are going to be at the beach with your beer.15:57
jschwarzhaleyb, I'm not going15:57
jschwarzhaleyb, Ihar is indeed going15:57
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haleybSwami_: s/beer/beers, and frozen drinks :)15:58
Swami_haleyb: :)15:58
Swami_haleyb: which place in Mexico?15:59
haleybok, <1 minute left15:59
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Swami_haleyb: I don't have anything else.15:59
haleybthanks for attending, let's get those patches merged :)16:00
haleyb#endmeeting16:00
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Swami_bye16:00
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rkukuraHi ML2’ers!16:01
Sukhdev_Hello16:01
rkukurahi Sukhdev_16:02
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rkukuraWho else is here for ML2 today?16:02
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brianstajkowskio/16:04
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rkukuraso far, its me, Sukhdev_, and brianstajkowski16:04
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brianstajkowskijust 3?16:04
rkukuraandreas_s may be lurking16:05
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andreas_srkukura, that's true :)16:05
rkukuradasanind, are you here for ML2 today?16:05
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dasanindrkukura: hi16:06
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rkukurahi16:06
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rkukuralets get started…16:06
rkukura#startmeeting networking_ml216:06
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 16:06:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2'16:06
rkukura#topic Agenda16:07
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rkukura#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_January_18.2C_201716:07
rkukuraSame agenda as last week. Anything anyone would like to add?16:07
Sukhdev_I do not have anything specific to add16:08
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rkukura#topic Announcements16:08
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rkukuraThere are still around 90 slots left for the PTG in Atlanta16:08
rkukura#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/16:09
Sukhdev_because of holiday, I did not attend neutron meeting - any update from there?16:09
rkukuraI finally registered this morning, still need to book travel16:09
rkukuraSukhdev_: I didn’t attend the Neutron meeting either16:10
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dasanindSukhdev_: rkukura : They discussed that the db changes for the portbinding can go in O316:10
rkukuraNeutron PTG planning is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike16:10
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rkukuradasanind: thanks16:10
dasanindNeutron-lib was released16:11
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rkukuraany other announcements, or info from the Neutron IRC meeting?16:11
dasanindNext week is FF16:12
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rkukuradasanind: good to know16:12
rkukurathanks16:12
rkukuraanything else?16:13
dasanindAlso there is a high priority bug for "Memory Leaks in Neutron"16:13
dasanindhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165638616:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656386 in neutron "Memory leaks on Neutron jobs" [Critical,Confirmed]16:13
dasanindThese were some of the important ones16:14
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rkukuraok, lets move on…16:14
Sukhdev_dasanind : thanks16:14
rkukura#topic Bugs/RFEs16:14
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rkukuraLooks like portbinding patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404293 are making progress16:16
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rkukuradasanind: Any updates on this effort, or other patches we should be looking at?16:16
dasanindyeah there are some test failures for the db patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404293 I am working on it right now16:17
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dasanindI need one help do any of you have a devstack configuration with psql16:18
rkukuradasanind: I have not tried that in a long time16:19
brianstajkowskidasanind, i do, i'll ping you offline16:19
dasanindbrianstajkowski: thank you16:19
dasanindrkukura: :)16:19
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rkukuraAnything else on the portbinding work?16:20
dasanindI ask that because I have test failures for psql and I do not have an environment to reproduce16:20
brianstajkowskispec is very close to merging, ihar +2 but artur had a few comments, should merge this week hopefully16:20
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dasanindas for the extension work I am still working on it will know more before next meeting16:20
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dasanindthat's all from my side for the portbinding work16:21
rkukurasounds good16:21
rkukurathanks dasanind and brianstajkowski!16:21
andreas_syeah, good job!16:21
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dasanindthank you :)16:21
rkukuraWe’ve been tracking a couple of driver API feature requests, but I don’t see any recent activity on these16:22
rkukuraI think we should be able to discuss them at the PTG and see if someone wants to work on them16:22
rkukuraAnything else on Bugs/RFEs?16:23
brianstajkowskispecifically the supported extensions work?16:23
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rkukurabrianstajkowski: That is one we wanted to discuss at the PTG, right, with a couple different viewpoints on whether all or any driver need to know about each extension?16:24
brianstajkowskiok16:24
dasanindrkukura: I am interested in working on the driver API feature requests. Is there a separate session in PTG for this?16:25
rkukuradasanind: I don’t think there is anything ML2-specific yet16:25
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rkukuraShould we request an ML2 session on the etherpad?16:26
rkukuraAnd if so, a general ML2 session, or something more specific?16:26
dasanindYeah that will be good.16:26
rkukuraOK16:27
rkukuralets move on…16:27
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Sukhdev_+116:27
rkukura#topic Open Discussion16:27
dasanindWe can add it as a general ML2 session and add topics to it16:27
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dasanindfor example, driver API feature requests, portbinding etc16:27
rkukuradasanind: sounds good16:28
rkukuraAnything else to discuss today?16:28
Sukhdev_nothing from me16:28
rkukuraanyone else?16:28
dasanindI have a question16:29
rkukuradasanind: go ahead16:29
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dasanindApart from driver API feature requests is there any other new feature or enhancements for ML2?16:29
rkukuradasanind: I have some things to propose16:30
dasanindrkukura: cool. Do you think we can discuss those in PTG as well?16:30
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rkukuradasanind: I’m hoping to16:31
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rkukuraThe ones I have in mind are mainly straightforward updates of ML2 to cover features added to Neutron since ML2, like subnetpools and address_scopes16:32
dasanindOk we can add this to the session?16:33
rkukuraBut the topic of how ML2 is extended and how the semantics of those extensions can be enforced is also something I’d like to discuss in the context of what extensions get advertized16:33
rkukurasure16:33
dasanind+116:33
rkukuradasanind: Are you planning to attend the PTG - I don’t see you on the etherpad yet16:34
rkukura?16:34
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dasanindrkukura: yes I am16:34
dasanindwhich etherpad?16:34
rkukura#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike16:35
rkukuradasanind: thanks16:35
rkukuraAnything else before we wrap up for today?16:35
dasanindnothing from me16:36
rkukuraThanks everyone!16:36
rkukuraSee you here next week16:36
dasanindThank you16:36
Sukhdev_thanks rkukura16:36
rkukura#endmeeting16:36
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 17:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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mugsie#topic Roll Call17:00
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mugsieo/17:01
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mugsieOK, seems to be a quiet day17:07
mugsie#endmeeting17:07
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timsimping mugsie17:17
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timsimoh there it is17:18
timsimmy bad. Missed ya17:18
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amrith#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 18:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
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peterstaco/18:00
amrithping peterstac johnma slicknik dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik18:00
trevormco/18:00
amrithhi peter18:00
amrithhi trevor18:01
peterstachi all18:01
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amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:01
songjiano/18:01
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amrithjohnma said she'd be here, let's give her a couple of minutes18:01
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amrithpeterstac, would you please remind vgnbkr that he has a -1 on 337914 that may be addressed now.18:02
johnmao/18:02
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peterstacsure, but he's not at his desk right now ...18:02
amrithhi mariam, let's get started.18:02
amriththx peterstac when you get a chance18:03
amrith#topic Stability of the gate18:03
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amrithso, it appears to be on the fritz again18:03
amriththx peterstac for trying to get it going again18:03
amrithhow goes that battle?18:03
peterstacwell, there seem to be multiple issues18:03
amrithspecifically, are there a small set of tests that we can skip for now18:03
peterstacnot sure how many are our fault either18:03
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amrithand get around it.18:03
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peterstacI've got a patch up to restrict resize-vol and resize-inst to just mysql18:04
peterstacbut then the postgres tests fail for an unrelated issue ...18:04
amrithi saw that, but it appears to have failed for some other reason18:04
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peterstacit's in the gate now, see if it merges this time18:05
amrithwhat of the postgres failure?18:05
peterstacthat'll help somewhat, but I still believe we have xenial/neutron issues on some of the clouds18:05
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amrithyou mean the timeout for qemu?18:06
peterstacI believe it was one where the instance just didn't go active18:06
peterstacthat's the only case now where we don't get a guest log printed out so it'll be hard to debug18:06
peterstac(doesn't just happen for postgresql either, I've seen it on redis too)18:06
peterstac(any maybe mysql as well)18:07
peterstacs/any/and/18:07
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amrithok18:07
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peterstacso basically I think it'll be more stable soon, but we're not entirely out of the woods yet18:07
amrithhow confident are you that we can get (for example) a string of changes like i18n merged soon18:08
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peterstacI'm guessing we can still only expect 50-60% to run without any issues18:09
amrithok, thx peterstac18:09
amrithwill go look at those instance not going active cases18:09
amrithone thing that could cause that is a kernel panic in the guest18:09
peterstacsounds good, thx amrith18:09
amrithwhich I've been watching for18:09
amrithit is a side effect of the kvm/qemu change18:09
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johnmaI might be out of the loop here amrith but what is this kvm/qemu change we are talking about18:10
peterstachmmm, hard to know if that's causing it - maybe we need to resurrect your 'pipe guest over to conductor' patch ?18:10
amrithjohnma, a while ago I made a change18:10
amrithlet me find a link18:10
amrith I85364c6530058e964a8eba7fb515d7deadfd5d7218:11
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413166/18:11
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amriththe gist of it is this ...18:11
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412011/18:11
amrithwe look during a test run and see whether we can force nova to use KVM18:11
peterstac^--- that's the first one18:11
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amrithpeterstac, yours was the test,  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413166/ was the finalized one which had your suggested changes (like the name of the method)18:12
amrithso anyway18:12
amrithat run time we see whether we can force KVM18:12
amrithnow the infra folks warned me that if we do this we could have some number of panics18:12
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amriththe symptoms would be just as peterstac felt, the guest never makes it far enough18:12
johnmaoh ok18:13
amrithbut in these cases, typically we have the whole test go away18:13
peterstacthat seems to happen around 5-10% of the time18:13
amriththat ~ instance not launching18:13
peterstacright, and then the wheels fall off18:13
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amrithlooking at kernel panics, I see them about 1 in a 1000 vm's18:13
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amrithso ther's some orders of magnitude difference between the two18:14
amrithwhich needs investigating18:14
amrithin any event, I'll look into that18:14
amrithand get back to you at next meeting18:14
peterstacright - it could also be a networking issue, or a path mismatch18:14
amrithyes, what was that .1 issue you mentioned?18:14
peterstacmight be quick to determine if we could get into the guest18:15
peterstacah, we calculate CONTROLLER_IP as the actual ip of the box18:15
peterstacwe use 'hostname -I' however that lists gateways and other stuff too18:15
peterstacso all the .1 addresses were filtered out18:15
peterstacsome clouds however will give out .1 addresses as a valid ip18:16
peterstacin that (rare) case the tests would fail since the controller ip wouldn't be set properly18:16
clarkbworth pointing out taht ironic and lbaas have been having similar issues with nested virt. It might be worthwhile to talk to them about what they are seeing and possibly debug together18:16
peterstacI didn't see it that often, but enough that I wanted to fix it18:16
amrithhmm, ok18:17
amrithclarkb, I have replied to that email thread18:17
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peterstacthere's also an issue with Redis backups - I've put a bug in for that18:17
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amrithsounds good peterstac is there a fix for the .1 issue?18:17
peterstacyes, it's merged (yesterday or early today) so hopefully that's resolved18:18
clarkbyup I saw, but there is a lot mroe detail in here so far :) in any case better communication around shared issues can only help18:18
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peterstac#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/165643218:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656432 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "Redis backup can fail if auto one already running" [Undecided,New]18:18
peterstac^^^ redis bug18:18
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amrithok, thx18:18
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peterstacclarkb, I'll take a look at the thread and see if anything new is revealed18:18
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amrithok, so if we're done with that topic of gate stability, let's move along ...18:19
amrith#topic Code Reviews (peterstac)18:20
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amrithpeterstac, you are up18:20
peterstacok, it's just a couple of reviews that have been there for a little while that I'd like to go in soon18:20
peterstac(mostly because there are other ones that are waiting on them)18:20
peterstacmodule-instances18:21
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403287/18:21
peterstaccluster-restart18:21
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417454/18:21
peterstacAnd redis from compile (less critical, but I think it's ready)18:22
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416361/18:22
peterstacoh amrith I talked to your concern on the cluster-restart one18:22
amrithok, this afternoon. getting them to merge, left as an exercise to peterstac (the unbreaker of the gate)18:22
amrithlet me look18:22
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amriththx peterstac, that was my hope, thanks for confirming18:23
johnmapeterstac: I reviewed all of them this morning. I havent gotten to testing them though. I tried but I think something about my env is messed up. Tried testing mongo and redis changes and things keep failing. So I am rebuilding my env. Hopefully once thats fixed I can test these real quick18:23
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amriththx johnma18:24
peterstacthx johnma18:25
amrithpeterstac, the only concern I have about the redis (and also postgresql) compile from source each time is that it is an awful waste of time18:25
amrithbut I can't think of a good way to automate it either18:25
peterstacsure, but with Redis we may not have a choice18:26
peterstacwe were using a ppa and it looks like the maintainer is letting it go stale18:26
amrithso what I was thinking was to make a repo of just the distros we use for testing18:26
amrithand call it something like (trove-db-packages)18:26
amrithand import packages from there18:26
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amrithor have them push artifacts into some place we can get them from18:26
amrithand a build job to rebuild the packages, maybe?18:26
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amrithanyway, we can take that up at a different time18:28
amrithanything else on the subject of reviews ...18:28
trevormcI uploaded more troveclient changes for osc :)18:28
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-troveclient+branch:master+topic:bp/trove-support-in-python-openstackclient18:28
johnmado we have any reviews left for troveclient before the deadline this week18:28
amrithjohnma, good question18:29
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-troveclient+status:open18:29
amrithso there are a couple18:30
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trevormcso if the patches aren't merged by the deadline then they will be going into pike?18:31
amrithpeterstac, can you help get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402802/6 to go?18:31
amrithtrevormc, no18:31
amrithlet's talk about the deadline later18:31
amriththis week is a soft freeze for the client18:31
trevormcok18:31
amrithso we can prioritize those for review18:31
peterstacamrith, I can look at that18:31
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amrithclient freeze is next week18:32
amrithpeterstac, if you can get that one to go, there's its client change which looks good18:32
peterstacright, I'll test both at the same time18:32
amrithI'll +2 it but since i co-authored it, I won't approve18:32
amrithso the priority for the next week of reviews is https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-troveclient+status:open18:33
amrithto get the client stuff done by next week18:33
amrithwhen our client will freeze18:33
amrithso let's move along18:34
amrith#topic Reviews for abandonment18:34
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amrithI abandoned four reviews this morning18:34
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amriththey've been sitting around and idle for a while with negative review comments18:35
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amrithif someone feels strongly about them, please restore and get them ready to go.18:35
amriththat's all I wanted to mention18:35
amrithanyone want to add something ...18:35
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amrith#topic Ocata Release Schedule - Update18:36
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amrith#link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html18:36
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amrithso, to johnma's earlier point, we have a soft freeze for the trove client and guest requirements this week18:37
amrithI see nothing changing that (other than the redis compile change, maybe)18:37
amrithwe should be tood to go with that18:37
amriththere's no actual 'deliverable' at this stage18:37
amriththe only deliverable comes next week18:37
amrithnote that next week, we freeze the client.18:38
amrithno if's, and's, or but's.18:38
amrithtrevormc, anything osc related that doesn't merge by jan 27 is not in ocata18:38
amrithsimilarly peterstac the volume type support client side stuff18:38
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amrithwe had one community goal for ocata18:39
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396267/18:39
amrithwe completed it18:39
amrithit is also the string soft freeze18:40
amrithso the i18n changes should merge if at all possible18:40
amriththe hard freeze for the i18n changes would be R-318:40
amrithany questions ...18:40
amrithhearing none18:41
amrith#topic open discussion18:41
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amrithanybody ...18:41
trevormcso it sounds like there is more pressure on reviews this week than uploading new patch sets to the troveclient. I can stop uploading patches if thats what we want for this week18:42
trevormcmeaning I'll have more time for reviews... :)18:43
amrithyou can upload all you want, they may not get reviewed :) but it'd be great if all could review/test this week18:43
johnmaI dont think that is what amrith meant trevormc.18:43
amrithyes, what johnma says18:43
johnmayou should go ahead and upload whatever you want to get into this release18:43
johnmawe should also do our part in helping with reviews :)18:43
peterstacfor the i18n stuff it's not the reviews that's the problem, it the gate :)18:44
amrithif the gate is stable, the saturday morning merge schedule is best18:44
peterstacyeah I do that a lot over weekends :D18:44
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amrithI queued up the rechecks for 530am on saturday and they fired automatically18:44
amrithnext time, I'll do them better; i.e. not 18 at a time :)18:44
amrithbut two or three at a time18:45
trevormcThanks for doing the housekeeping on those.18:45
amrithno worries trevormc; happy to do it, I understand the constraint you have there18:46
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amrithok, anything else for open discussion ...18:46
peterstacnothing here18:46
songjianhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/421631/2  Perhaps we need to look at this patch, I reproduce the problem today, do not know whether it is universal18:46
amrithi was thinking I'd look at it once the submitter could get basic tests to pass18:47
peterstacjust a pep8 failure18:47
amrithI don't understand either the problem or the fix and the commit message is empty18:47
peterstacshould be easy to respin18:47
amrithso if that isn't fixed, and there's no explanation for the change, it will be harder to review18:48
peterstacyeah, it'd be good if the bug info was copied into the commit message18:48
peterstacmaybe I'll put a note there :)18:48
amrithalso, I'm not entirely positive of the environment setting that the guy shows in the bug18:49
amrithI don't know that it is all legitimate18:49
amrithare we sure that the settings aren't junk to begin with?18:49
amrithis it 'really a bug'?18:49
amrithwhat's the severity18:49
amrithshould there be additional tests to make sure this isn't breaking something else18:50
amrithafter all, we're 1 week from client freeze18:50
amrithI'm not going to do back flips to merge this unless we're damn sure that it is right18:50
amrithand not going to regress18:50
amrithand if we aren't sure, I'd rather not take it, and wait till ocata comes out and respin the client18:50
peterstacwell, it only affects log-tail so it's fairly low-risk18:51
amrithjohnma, trevormc, aliadil, anything for open discussion18:51
songjianthx,I also think so, stay focused18:52
trevormcno I'm good.18:52
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amritheven so, if it is fairly low risk and limited to log tail, we can take it after the release is cut18:52
johnmaI am good. Thanks amrith18:52
amrithok, have a good afternoon folks18:53
amrith#endmeeting18:53
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 20:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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johnsomHi folks20:00
ankur-gupta-f2howdy20:00
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johnsomBusy agenda today with announcements....20:00
johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
abedahi20:01
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johnsomOcata-3 is week of January 23rd20:01
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johnsomThis is feature freeze week.  All non-bug fixes must be in by next week.  I will try to cut that earlier in the week, so if you have something that might be a day late, please work with me directly.20:02
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johnsomJust a reminder, we are working against the lbaas merge review priority list:20:02
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ocata-merge-review-priority20:02
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johnsomI have created an etherpad for topics at the PTG20:03
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-pike20:03
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johnsomAlso of note, it is PTL election time for Pike.  Nominations open tomorrow (depending on your timezone).20:04
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johnsom#link https://governance.openstack.org/election/20:04
abeda#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Active-_Active_Topology_commits20:04
* blogan sneaks in late20:04
johnsomHi abeda.  We have that on the agenda a bit later.20:04
johnsom#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda20:05
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abedaok20:05
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johnsomFYI, I do intend to run again for the Octavia PTL, but encourage anyone interested to also run...20:05
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johnsomI have also completed the work to allow octavia to be translated.  This has been an agenda item for a while, but now all of the patches are in.20:06
johnsom#link https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/octavia20:06
johnsomNote, the translation team prioritizes horizon dashboard highest, so we may not get translations for some time.20:07
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johnsomHowever, everything is in place, so if you have folks interested in doing translations for octavia, they can via the i18n/translations teams/infrastructure.20:08
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johnsomThe i18n PTL was very supportive, so that is cool.20:08
johnsomAlso an FYI, the TC is working on goals for Pike and Queens.20:09
johnsom#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/index.html20:09
johnsomRight now it looks like python 3.5 support is approved for Pike.  We are pretty good on that, I think we just need a functional test gate and we are done thanks to the work diltram did.20:09
johnsomNote, those py3x gates are failing as nova is not working under py35 at the moment....20:10
xgermano/ sorry for being late20:10
johnsomThere is also a proposed goal for tempest plugins:20:10
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369749/20:10
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johnsomand a proposed Queens goal for wsgi:20:10
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419706/20:11
johnsomIf you would like to comment on those.20:11
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johnsomThese are things we are accountable for as an OpenStack project, so please comment if you have concerns.20:11
johnsomAny questions about that long list of announcements?20:12
johnsom(longest I think I have ever had...)20:12
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johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:12
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johnsomOk, updates20:12
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johnsomI have been working to track down this subunit bug "length too long".20:13
johnsomI am also working on the scenario/api tests for the v2 API.20:13
johnsomabeda had mentioned the active/active review page has been updated:20:14
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Active-_Active_Topology_commits20:14
johnsomSo, if you have reviewed everything on the merge list and have time these are ready for review.20:14
johnsomAnything you wanted to add abeda?20:15
abedawe like to have commits 1..6 from the etherpad20:15
abedain this release20:15
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abedait doesn't include functionality20:15
abedait is up to Distributor Image creation20:16
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johnsomabeda I'm not sure that is going to happen.  We have been targeting that for Pike and we are in the last week before the freeze.  It might, but just an heads up that it might not make Ocata.20:16
abedaperelman (she is in vacation) told me that this was agreed20:17
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johnsomAlso, nmagnezi said he could not make the meeting today.  He is close on the amphora centos support.  That may be ready for review tomorrow.20:18
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/33184120:18
abedait is passing and doesn't include any new functionality effect. infrastructure somehow20:19
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abedai submitted the fulfillment of the reviewers notes20:19
abedafrom the latest review. it is important to us. please consider20:20
abedathanks20:20
johnsomYes.  It is still feature work though, so falls under the freeze.  We might get enough reviews on it to include.  Anything that changes code paths though, will be differed to Pike to reduce the risk of breaking Ocata in the last weeks.20:20
johnsomAre there any priority patches for neutron-lbaas that we should be aware of?20:21
abedai dont know about any20:22
johnsomOk, any other updates from folks?20:22
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:22
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ankur-gupta-f2discussion over whether to do full alignment for API v2 or take fastest route to bringing up v2 API20:23
johnsomabeda Just a note, when sending e-mail to the openstack-dev list, please include the [octavia] tag in the subject line so we see it.20:23
johnsomankur-gupta-f2 Yes, let's talk about that.20:23
abedasure20:23
johnsomSo for the neutron-lbaas v2 API work in the Octavia API(v2)...20:24
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ankur-gupta-f2I for the position that when we bring up the new controllers. We migrate the DB and make all the changes needed to be aligned20:24
johnsomThere are differences between neutron-lbaas and octavia, including in the data models.20:24
xgerman+120:24
johnsomMy assumption had been that we were mapping the API to the existing octavia data model and not updating the data model code.20:25
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johnsomankur-gupta-f2 is proposing making the data model changes now to reflect the neutron-lbaas way.20:25
johnsomAn example is neutron-lbaas has "admin_state_up" where octavia has "enabled".20:26
johnsomankur-gupta-f2 is that a fair description?20:26
ankur-gupta-f2correct20:26
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blogani'd rather have enabled20:26
xgermanwouldn’t that hose our backward compatibility?20:27
bloganbut i can' thave it20:27
blogani know20:27
johnsomMy preference is to do the mapping in the API and leave the existing  octavia model as-is until some point in the future that we feel the need to change it.  This seems like a lower risk/faster solution20:27
m-greenejohnsom: can we add [octavia] to the openstack mailers list to allow selection in/out of the mailer?  it’s not listed here http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/openstack-dev20:27
ankur-gupta-f2blogan: different discussion. this is whether when we bring up the controllers to do the db migration as well.20:28
ankur-gupta-f2because there are other things that need to be renamed20:28
xgermanmmh, so if I run Octavia straight but also have neutron-lbaas with the Octavia plugin…20:28
xgermanwould that still work after the db update?20:28
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bloganif you have the pass-through20:29
ankur-gupta-f2yes full compatibility with v1, the new v2 which will be aligned to lbaas-v220:29
xgermaneven if we change the DB?20:29
johnsomm-greene In theory yes.  I'm not sure how to add octavia to that selector list.  I will look into that.20:29
bloganthe current octavia driver only works with v120:29
bloganv1 octavia20:30
xgermanyep, and v1 will continue to work after the DB changes?20:30
johnsomRight you would have to change the v1 API to do the mapping to the *new* data model.20:30
xgermanor do we then spend the work we save on v2 on making v1 work?20:30
bloganyeah so thats 2 things that would need to be changed20:30
johnsomSo, either way you are mapping it somewhere.20:30
bloganwhereas chaning v2 to work with v1 data model is jsut one thing20:30
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xgermanyeah, my expectation is that v1 continues to work (at least for the next three cycles)20:31
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bloganthen i definitely agree that teh data model shouldnt' be changed20:31
johnsomI just think changing the DB and data model introduces a lot of risk as that means going deep into the code to make the changes.20:31
johnsomxgerman +1 v1 has to keep working20:32
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bloganthere's a risk in the duct tape that is required to get the v1 model to work with teh v2 api20:32
ankur-gupta-f2okay. I think its decided then. not touching the db20:32
xgermanyeah, we need to proper deprecate v120:32
bloganbut it is less risk20:32
* blogan properly deprecates xgerman20:33
johnsomblogan Agreed, but I would rather have duct tape on the V2 api then break both v2 and v120:33
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johnsomOk.  One other topic that was raised, https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/165565620:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655656 in octavia "test_calculate_delta fails with message "TypeError: unhashable type: 'list'"" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:34
bloganspeaking of duct tape :)20:34
blogani'm sure that originates with me20:34
johnsomI have been running --until-failure tests on master py35 all morning.  I'm 99.5% sure this issue is caused by a change in that patchset chain.20:35
johnsomI will continue to run the test on master, but after the day if it doesn't show up again I am going to conclude that it is a problem in that patch chain.20:36
bloganinteresting20:36
johnsomOk, any other topics today?20:36
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johnsomabeda you just missed the discussion of the bug.  Please check the meeting log...20:38
abedasorry for the disconnect20:38
abedaregards the bug20:38
johnsomOk, well if that is all we can end a bit early.20:38
johnsomI just said that I have been running the test on master all morning and have not seen the failure.20:39
abedayes. i followed your messages20:39
johnsomI think it is a bug in the patch chain20:39
johnsomBut will keep it running the rest of the day just to make sure.20:39
abedathanks20:40
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johnsomOk, thanks folks.  Chat with you all next week or in the channel.20:40
johnsom#endmeeting20:40
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