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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 14:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
| _gryf | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Good UGT morning everyone! | 14:00 |
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| macsz | o/ | 14:00 |
| jroll | \o | 14:00 |
| diga | o/ | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | I saw cdent mention that jaypipes is on PTO today | 14:01 |
| cdent | all week | 14:01 |
| edleafe | ah | 14:01 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:01 |
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| edleafe | Let's get started | 14:02 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs & Reviews | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | hola | 14:02 |
| edleafe | Sorry I didn't update the agenda last week | 14:02 |
| bauzas | just going quick here | 14:02 |
| bauzas | given I'm mostly rushing for implementing the scheduler upcall | 14:03 |
| edleafe | Nested Resource Providers: series beginning with: | 14:03 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415920/ | 14:03 |
| edleafe | Jay isn't here, so unless anyone objects I'll take care of rebasing those | 14:03 |
| cdent | +1 | 14:03 |
| edleafe | Next up is bauzas's series | 14:03 |
| edleafe | Resource Providers Scheduler DB Filters: series beginning with: | 14:03 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424110/ | 14:03 |
| bauzas | we merged a few patches last week | 14:04 |
| edleafe | bauzas: anything you'd like to point out? | 14:04 |
| bauzas | mostly about the functional tests modifications needed | 14:04 |
| bauzas | so we created a new PlacementFixture | 14:04 |
| bauzas | we also merged an object method for getting the list of Compute nodes | 14:04 |
| bauzas | now, I have a last prereq for fixing the fake driver | 14:04 |
| bauzas | and once all of that is merged, the func tests in the main change should be green | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | I'm now investigating why our tempest jobs are telling that the disk usage is 0 | 14:05 |
| bauzas | that should be the last problem | 14:05 |
| bauzas | so, hopefully all of that should be sorted tomorrow so we could rush out for merging that very important change | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | that's it for me | 14:06 |
| edleafe | OK, let's all put some eyes on that series | 14:06 |
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| _gryf | +1 | 14:07 |
| edleafe | Next up: CORS support: | 14:07 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392891/ | 14:07 |
| edleafe | that one's been sitting a while | 14:07 |
| edleafe | cdent: anything needed to push it through? | 14:07 |
| cdent | just review | 14:07 |
| cdent | it hasn't changed in any significant way since jay's +2 | 14:08 |
| edleafe | OK, you heard the man, people | 14:08 |
| edleafe | Review that thing!! :) | 14:08 |
| bauzas | I forgot something important | 14:08 |
| edleafe | go ahead | 14:08 |
| bauzas | I need eyes on a ML thread I wrote this week-end | 14:09 |
| bauzas | I'll provide a follow-up on it | 14:09 |
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| edleafe | link? | 14:09 |
| bauzas | but the fact is that we need to optionnally call resources given the existing filters | 14:09 |
| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110661.html | 14:09 |
| bauzas | the WIP change is updated consequently | 14:10 |
| edleafe | ok, I was offline most of the weeked, so I'll take a look at that this morning | 14:10 |
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| cdent | After talking about it with bauzas in IRC, I ended up thinking the idea was sane | 14:11 |
| cdent | (even if the behavior by the deployers was weird to me) | 14:11 |
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| edleafe | Finally, my series removing Allocation.create() and validating allocation amounts: | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416751/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | There is a comment from johnthetubaguy about object versioning, but I agree that a major bump is more or less irrelevant for non-remotable objects. | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Comments? Opinions? | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Please add them to the review | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Just need some +2s on the removal of create() - the second patch is already +W'd | 14:12 |
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| edleafe | Any other specs or reviews anyone wants to discuss? | 14:13 |
| _gryf | yup | 14:13 |
| _gryf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422780 | 14:13 |
| diga | edleafe: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423872/ | 14:13 |
| _gryf | it's a bugifx | 14:14 |
| diga | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423872/ - spec on placement notification | 14:14 |
| * alex_xu updates the poc for traits, both for server and client side https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/resource-provider-tags but it isn't the focus for now | 14:14 | |
| edleafe | _gryf: ok - anything controversial, or is it pretty clear? | 14:14 |
| _gryf | edleafe, it's straightforward | 14:15 |
| edleafe | _gryf: cool | 14:15 |
| _gryf | only eyes and +2s needed (jay already gave hes +2) | 14:15 |
| edleafe | diga: specs for pike will probably get ignored for a while due to upcoming Feature Freeze | 14:15 |
| diga | edleafe: Okay | 14:16 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: same with traits | 14:16 |
| edleafe | Any other reviews to mention? | 14:16 |
| diga | edleafe: will continue to work on it so that it will be ready for pike cycle :) | 14:17 |
| edleafe | diga: that's fine | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Let's move on | 14:17 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:17 | |
| diga | edleafe: ok | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Placement Bugs: | 14:18 |
| edleafe | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Scheduler Bugs: | 14:18 |
| edleafe | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=scheduler | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Nothing new jumps out at me from there | 14:18 |
| edleafe | But bug fixes are always welcome! | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Any more on bugs? | 14:19 |
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| edleafe | moving on... | 14:20 |
| edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:20 |
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| edleafe | Speak now, or forever hold... | 14:20 |
| jroll | ohai | 14:20 |
| edleafe | ohai yourself | 14:20 |
| jroll | just a quick thing, I've been distracted and haven't been following this stuff super close | 14:20 |
| jroll | I'm working on CI to run ironic with the custom resource class stuff | 14:20 |
| * cdent gives cheeseburger to jroll | 14:20 | |
| jroll | (and docs etc etc) | 14:21 |
| jroll | a question came up, will it be required for folks to be using custom resource classes things in ocata for a smooth upgrade to pike? | 14:21 |
| jroll | (e.g. are we going to drop old-style scheduling for ironic in pike) | 14:21 |
| jroll | s/e.g./i.e./ | 14:21 |
| edleafe | jroll: as far as I know, yes, it will not be an optional thing | 14:22 |
| cdent | jroll: that's a good question. The current code allows for both but expresses a hope for pike for it not be both | 14:22 |
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| edleafe | we're trying to remove the never-ending optional stuff, because otherwise we never move forward | 14:22 |
| jroll | so... "probably" | 14:22 |
| jroll | :) | 14:22 |
| cdent | If I remember right there's a few todos that say something like "we can stop doing this in pike" | 14:22 |
| jroll | I believe that answers my question | 14:23 |
| edleafe | jroll: if we had our way it would not be optional | 14:23 |
| edleafe | jroll: but there are always others who bring up "oh, it will be too hard" | 14:23 |
| jroll | edleafe: I won't be. just wondering if our docs say "you should do this" or "you must do this" | 14:23 |
| jroll | and tripleo folks were asking if they should do the thing | 14:24 |
| jroll | etc | 14:24 |
| edleafe | +1 on "must" | 14:24 |
| cdent | I'm +1 on must too, but that's probably not universal | 14:24 |
| edleafe | jroll: but unfortunately I'm not the release god | 14:24 |
| jroll | yar | 14:24 |
| * cdent adjusts his perceptions | 14:24 | |
| jroll | thanks cdent and edleafe | 14:24 |
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| edleafe | So... anything else to discuss, or shoudl we all get back to our day? | 14:25 |
| cdent | this is the most important part of my day! | 14:26 |
| alex_xu | edleafe: cdent may I ask what is purpose of generation? | 14:26 |
| edleafe | confllict checking | 14:26 |
| cdent | alex_xu: it is a compare and swap marker | 14:26 |
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| alex_xu | cdent: for the client side? when I write the traits client side, I found it just try to keep the generation update-to-date | 14:27 |
| cdent | the client side should not be changing the generation | 14:27 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: So if you have a view of resources, and someone changes it before you make your change, yours will fail | 14:27 |
| cdent | it should use the generation the server tells it | 14:27 |
| jroll | generation ~= etag? | 14:27 |
| cdent | jroll: effectively yes | 14:27 |
| cdent | but etags were considered sort of at the wrong layer | 14:27 |
| alex_xu | do we have case for update inventory or traits from two client at sametime? | 14:27 |
| jroll | nod | 14:28 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: first update wins; second update fails | 14:28 |
| cdent | alex_xu: a test case? not real ones, but there are some faked examples of providing bad generations, or changing generations in the backend | 14:28 |
| alex_xu | cdent: the real one, for rp which for compute node, there is only one client to report that | 14:29 |
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| cdent | ? | 14:30 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: it's part of the RP object (and database record) | 14:30 |
| diga | need to go home, leaving | 14:31 |
| * edleafe waves to diga | 14:31 | |
| diga | :) | 14:31 |
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| alex_xu | edleafe: cdent emm...let me catch you guys later. I need to construct my word first. avoid to waste everybody's time | 14:31 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: Sure. If you can give an example of your concern, that would help too | 14:32 |
| alex_xu | edleafe: got it, thanks | 14:32 |
| * edleafe admires anyone who can speak more than one language | 14:32 | |
| alex_xu | :) | 14:33 |
| edleafe | OK, anything else for Opens? | 14:33 |
| * _gryf have no other things to discuss | 14:34 | |
| edleafe | Thanks everyone! Now go back to work/play/sleep! | 14:35 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 14:35:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-01-23-14.00.html | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-01-23-14.00.txt | 14:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-01-23-14.00.log.html | 14:35 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 15:02:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:02 |
| electrocucaracha | howdy | 15:02 |
| korzen | Hello | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | hi everyone | 15:02 |
| sindhu | hi | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Upgrades-Subteam Agenda | 15:02 |
| dasanind | hi | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:03 | |
| ihrachys | ptg is coming, please fill in the etherpad with your names and topics if you visit the event: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | also, this week is milestone-3 | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | next week is rc-1, which will traditionally slow down feature development | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | it will be a good time to test what we have though | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | more info about the release schedule is at: https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | #topic Partial Multinode Grenade | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Partial Multinode Grenade (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:06 | |
| ihrachys | I guess no one got to test multinode mixed server versions so far, did anyone? | 15:07 |
| electrocucaracha | nope | 15:07 |
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| korzen | I'm preparing | 15:07 |
| korzen | for it | 15:07 |
| sshank_ | Hello all. | 15:07 |
| korzen | I hope to do some manual tests by end of week | 15:07 |
| korzen | or next week | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | cool. I will see if I can jump on it too. I have some spare time in my list which I may fill in with some testing too. | 15:09 |
| korzen | It will be some fancy containerized control plane env | 15:09 |
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| korzen | with kubernetes and fuel-ccp | 15:09 |
| korzen | I hope to be it quick and reliable :) | 15:10 |
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| korzen | a little more convenient then devstack | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | I guess so. :) | 15:10 |
| manjeets | o/ | 15:10 |
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| ihrachys | in other news, linuxbridge grenade job is still failing ~40% times comparing to ovs one with ~15% | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | no progress on that one that I know though | 15:12 |
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| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to report bugs for linuxbridge grenade multinode failures | 15:12 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Object implementation (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:13 | |
| ihrachys | we merged some bits lately | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db Merged patches | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | ipam objects: https://review.openstack.org/360799 | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | auto-allocated-topology: https://review.openstack.org/357506 | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | flavour: https://review.openstack.org/306685 | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | I think we are doing some progress on other patches. let's see what's in queue | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db Open patches | 15:15 |
| electrocucaracha | yeah, the other big patch is Quotas | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | ok, tag is almost there, but failed in gate queue: https://review.openstack.org/356825 Probably something irrelevant and we need to recheck. | 15:15 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I've rechecked | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: yeah, I didn't get to that because of its size so far :) | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | port binding patch is, I believe, ready to go: https://review.openstack.org/407868 | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | rossella_: ^ please ;) | 15:16 |
| manjeets | ihrachys, and external network is also up for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353088/ | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | also network segment integration seems ready: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385178/ | 15:17 |
| korzen | I have subnet adoption patch, but it is huge and I'm dependent on engineface job being merged first | 15:17 |
| korzen | enginefacade* | 15:17 |
| ihrachys | manjeets: gotcha | 15:17 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: and that enginefacade patch is not ready to merge | 15:17 |
| korzen | yea, it is still evolving | 15:18 |
| korzen | but subnet is not critical | 15:18 |
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| electrocucaracha | what about DistributedVirtualRouterMacAddress? | 15:19 |
| electrocucaracha | forget it, it seems like it's still on progress | 15:19 |
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| ihrachys | I am doing reviews when I get time. I will raise the patches with one +2 today during the meeting so that we can get those in quick. | 15:20 |
| korzen | what about port binding level object? | 15:20 |
| sshank_ | korzen, It seems to be complete. | 15:21 |
| korzen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382037/ | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | korzen: I am still to look at that l3_agent object field. I am not sure that's the right thing but I need to check the context. | 15:21 |
| sshank_ | korzen, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382037/ | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | oh wait, that's another one | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | in that one, I think we need to understand why we can't expose segment as an object on top of the level. | 15:21 |
| korzen | l3_agent is in router binding | 15:21 |
| dasanind | yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360908/ | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | because if we can't, it means that port json representation won | 15:22 |
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| ihrachys | ...'t contain segmenti nfo | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | which may be bad for push-notifications | 15:22 |
| korzen | won :) | 15:22 |
| korzen | I can take a look tomorrow | 15:23 |
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| sshank_ | ihrachys, The problem was unlike other objects, the network segement seems to point back at a field not present in the level object. | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | I think it makes sense to talk to kevinbenton whether it's a problem for his use case. | 15:23 |
| korzen | theoretically I can image having segment as synthetic field | 15:23 |
| sshank_ | ihrachys, I think you mentioned about this in the commit message while creating the object. | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | sshank_: yeah I remember there was some reasoning behind what you did, I just can't recollect and will need to think a bit more on the problem. | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | sshank_: yeah I was hoping that pulling port object will give you levels->segments chain | 15:24 |
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| sshank_ | ihrachys, It seems like the network segment needs segment_id to refer back. | 15:25 |
| korzen | It would be good to describe the use case, because it is well understand | 15:25 |
| sshank_ | ihrachys, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/dcd78423aa9e3fda5234c22fc14b06064e65e689 | 15:25 |
| korzen | it is not well* | 15:26 |
| sshank_ | I am not sure how the segment synthetic field effects push notifications. | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | korzen: you mean push-notifications case? | 15:27 |
| korzen | ihrachys, yes | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to explain the use case behind segment object field in port binding level object in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382037/ | 15:27 |
| korzen | one way or the other, I can take a look at the synthetic field use case, if it is required | 15:28 |
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| ihrachys | I see a patch from tonytan4ever to support LIKE filters: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419152/ | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | it does have a different topic | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | lemme fix that | 15:30 |
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| sshank_ | And also provisioning blocks integration seems to be done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361303/ | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | re tonytan4ever's patch, is there any reason why we implement that in agent class and not base one? | 15:32 |
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| korzen | nope | 15:34 |
| korzen | I do not know any | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | so that's one thing. another thing is UX for the filter, but I guess I should put that in comments in gerrit instead of here. | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | ok let's move on to the next section | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | #topic Other patches on review | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22UpgradeImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | the same list as from before | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | oops | 15:37 |
| korzen | topic? | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | #undo | 15:37 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22UpgradeImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22UpgradeImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron | 15:37 |
| korzen | now is better :) | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | no moves on any of those patches that I see, so I guess we can move on :) | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 15:37 |
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| ihrachys | nothing on the agenda | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | anyone has a topic to raise? | 15:38 |
| korzen | I have seen that push-notification at server side is merged | 15:38 |
| korzen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388939 Server-side push notifications for ML2 | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | oh right. it took like 10+ rechecks :) | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | gate is crazy these days | 15:39 |
| korzen | does it mean that every subnet, network and port related stuff need to bump OVO version? | 15:39 |
| korzen | like port binding for live migration | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | korzen: probably not until we actually consume those objects? | 15:39 |
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| korzen | yes, I guess this is one way of looking at it | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | unless we consider that RPC interface as public and hence want to maintain compatibility for any external consumers that may pop up | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | I would take a shortcut this cycle because I don't believe someone will use the messages right away | 15:40 |
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| korzen | yes, I guess that until opening master for Pike, we are safe | 15:41 |
| korzen | we can add this port binding extensions without bumping version | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | yeah for Pike, we will need to be more cautious | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | because we should complete push-notifications by then for sure | 15:42 |
| korzen | if it will be merged this week | 15:42 |
| korzen | so I guess that priority for this week is to merge the port binding adoption | 15:42 |
| ihrachys | yea | 15:43 |
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| korzen | port binding extension for live migration | 15:43 |
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| korzen | and we will be good for Pike | 15:43 |
| korzen | for Ocata* | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | extension doesn't land this cycle, it's only db model changes | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | but that's fine for our matters | 15:43 |
| korzen | yes, the DB stuff | 15:43 |
| korzen | well db model changes | 15:43 |
| korzen | :) | 15:43 |
| korzen | the spec is merged https://review.openstack.org/309416 | 15:44 |
| korzen | Spec for providing Nova portbinding information for live migration | 15:44 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: what are the plans from here until the first RC is released? implement as much as OVO as possible? reduce the number of changes to avoid issues? hardening the testing OVO framework? | 15:45 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I believe it's PTL who sets the agenda here, but in general, we can land OVO patches for now | 15:46 |
| ihrachys | we will definitely stop at RC-1 | 15:46 |
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| ihrachys | and we should be cautious | 15:46 |
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| ihrachys | we will look at the impact | 15:46 |
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| korzen | when stable/ocata will be created? | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | port binding changes are probably those of more impact that we should try to land | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | korzen: stable branches are created from RC-1 | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | so in between milestone-3 and rc-1, there is like a week of cautious improvements before stable is spinned off | 15:47 |
| korzen | ok | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | at which point, master is in theory unblocked for new work, but then again, PTL may tweak the process to give more attention to Ocata preparations | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | like asking not to land anything huge in Pike | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | untill further notice | 15:48 |
| electrocucaracha | got it, basically we depends on the decision of the PTL of the things that goes and not | 15:49 |
| korzen | which PTL ;) ? | 15:49 |
| electrocucaracha | hehe | 15:49 |
| korzen | the old one or brand new? | 15:49 |
| manjeets | lol | 15:49 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: I assume the new one will need to negotiate with the old one :) | 15:50 |
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| manjeets | reminder 8 mins left | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | I guess we can actually make use of those 8 mins by doing some reviews and coding | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | see you all next time in a week, thanks for all the work you heavy lift | 15:53 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
| manjeets | thanks | 15:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 15:53:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-01-23-15.02.html | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-01-23-15.02.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-01-23-15.02.log.html | 15:53 |
| dasanind | thanks | 15:53 |
| sshank_ | Thanks. | 15:53 |
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| electrocucaracha | thanks | 15:53 |
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| sindhu | thanks | 15:54 |
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| asingh_ | thanks | 15:58 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 16:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 16:00 |
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| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz | 16:00 |
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| electrocucaracha | o/ | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 16:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | \o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | | | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | | | | 16:00 |
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| amrith | hi | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | hi hi | 16:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | my guess a short meeting today, since oslo has tagged and branched for ocata | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | but let's get the show on the roady | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
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| johnsom | Nothing to report from Octavia | 16:02 |
| rloo | nothing ironic from ironic | 16:02 |
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| electrocucaracha | nothing from Neutron | 16:03 |
| * harlowja_at_home needs to work on other liasons showing up, lol | 16:03 | |
| harlowja_at_home | thanks for those that reported in :) | 16:04 |
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| amrith | nothing from trove (how ironic) | 16:04 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ya, i like it when there isn't anything to report, lol | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic stuck reviews | 16:06 |
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| harlowja_at_home | any (oslo) reviews people need to have some extra eyes on? | 16:06 |
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| harlowja_at_home | speak now or forever hold your peace | 16:07 |
| rloo | s/forever/forever this week/ | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic PTG | 16:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-pike | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | keep on adding ideas to that (though I won't be there) | 16:08 |
| harlowja_at_home | more ideas the better! | 16:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | rloo one thing that might be useful to talk about with ironic folks at the PTG is the hashring in ironic | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | tooz now has a equivalent, so maybe just need some planning work on how to adtop it | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | *adopt | 16:10 |
| rloo | harlowja_at_home: huh? already adopted it. | 16:10 |
| rloo | harlowja_at_home: and there's a nova patch to do so too | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | nm then, lol | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | that was quick | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:11 |
| rloo | harlowja_at_home: last week it got merged in ironic :) | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | damn, superfast | 16:11 |
| rloo | harlowja_at_home: yeah, we're fast ;) | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ said the turtle to the snail | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:12 |
| rloo | harlowja_at_home: if you are interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399028/ | 16:12 |
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| harlowja_at_home | cools, thanks rloo | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | u the best | 16:12 |
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| rloo | harlowja_at_home: well, our project is the best :) | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya that to | 16:13 |
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| rloo | harlowja_at_home: here's the nova one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399022/ | 16:13 |
| * johnsom coughs loudly... | 16:13 | |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:13 |
| * rloo wonders what project johnsom is on. seems to make them cough ;) | 16:14 | |
| harlowja_at_home | johnsom rloo and i used to be on the yahoo openstack team :-P | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Open discussion | 16:14 |
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| johnsom | Ah, playing favorites... | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:14 |
| rloo | oh yeah, i'm just joking with harlowja_at_home | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-P | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | ok, moved to open discussion, so we can have a nice quick meeting | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | anything else on peoples minds? | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | bring your thoughts, concerns, comments, questions, debates | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | the world hasn't ended yet (due to trump)! | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | so that's good | 16:16 |
| kgiusti | Can anyone explain were we are in oslo.messaging re: kombu 4 support? | 16:16 |
| * kgiusti is a little lost on what the game plan is | 16:17 | |
| kgiusti | There's this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409294/ | 16:17 |
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| harlowja_at_home | it seems like we should make that the big push of this next cycle for oslo.messaging | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | to make that happen | 16:18 |
| johnsom | Cool, we would like to see that as well. | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | i haven't seen a ML thread around that discussing the issues and the requirements changes and such right? | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | perhaps we should start one? | 16:19 |
| kgiusti | Yeah I can poke at that bees nest. | 16:20 |
| johnsom | Well, the reason we are interested is so we can stop putting exceptions in the global requirements, so I don't think the requirements change is going to be much of an issue. | 16:20 |
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| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems like we should get this done soon | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | kgiusti thanks, that i think will help raise some awareness around it | 16:22 |
| kgiusti | np | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | okie dokie, unless people have anything else we can call it a meeting :) | 16:24 |
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| harlowja_at_home | boom | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | thanks all for showing up :) | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-01-23-16.00.html | 16:25 |
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| dave-mccowan | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic roll call | 20:00 |
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| kfarr | o/ | 20:02 |
| dave-mccowan | hello kfarr! | 20:03 |
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| diazjf | o/ | 20:04 |
| redrobot | o/ | 20:05 |
| kfarr | \o/ | 20:05 |
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| dave-mccowan | yea! a few more barbicaneers. :-) | 20:05 |
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| alee | o/ | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | as usual, the agenda is here: | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | This week is milestone-3 for Ocata, which means we need to: | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | release python-barbicanclient and have the soft string freeze for barbican. | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | before i tag those items, is there any patch that we should wait on? | 20:06 |
| redrobot | I was hoping to get the ID stuff in for this release | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I'm finishing up the doc changes on the API side: | 20:07 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419157/ | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I also have a client patch to go with it, but it still needs some work. | 20:07 |
| dave-mccowan | redrobot does python-barbicanclient also need changes for that? | 20:08 |
| diazjf | redrobot, I'll add it to my reviews for tonight, so far got thru alot of castellan reviews over the weekend <- kfarr | 20:08 |
| kfarr | thanks diazjf | 20:08 |
| redrobot | well, I had some changes pending for the client... like renaming the columns to match the field names in cli output | 20:08 |
| kfarr | I was also hoping to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400370/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409978/ in before a release | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | kfarr added to my review queue | 20:10 |
| kfarr | thanks! I need to update the first one | 20:11 |
| diazjf | kfarr, will try to get it done by end of week | 20:11 |
| dave-mccowan | looks like there is at least 12 open patches on python-barbicanclient. we need to sort those between "in" and "out" for ocata. | 20:11 |
| dave-mccowan | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-barbicanclient | 20:11 |
| dave-mccowan | redrobot has 4. doug: do you want them all to go in? | 20:12 |
| redrobot | I only care about 2 for this release | 20:13 |
| redrobot | will WIP the other two | 20:13 |
| kfarr | oh no, it looks like the gate is failing | 20:14 |
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| dave-mccowan | Jeremy has a bunch. many are small nits. we can merge those, i guess. one is a big refactor. we probably should wait on that. | 20:14 |
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| dave-mccowan | kfarr yikes. :-( that would explain the backlog. | 20:15 |
| kfarr | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' | 20:16 |
| dave-mccowan | i'll look at the gate failure, and ping people for reviews for the rest of the items. looks like we'll need a couple days before tagging the release. | 20:16 |
| dave-mccowan | any thing else for Ocata milestone-3? | 20:18 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic tempest testing | 20:18 |
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| dave-mccowan | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/barbican-tempest-plugin | 20:19 |
| dave-mccowan | peter and dane have been busy. there's a couple more tests ready for review. | 20:20 |
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| dave-mccowan | kfarr did they give you an update this week? | 20:20 |
| kfarr | I merged a few today | 20:20 |
| dave-mccowan | thanks! | 20:20 |
| kfarr | I have this patch to create a gate to run the tests | 20:21 |
| kfarr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420809/ | 20:21 |
| kfarr | Right now, it'll just run in barbican-tempest-plugin, but hopefully later we can add it to other projects | 20:21 |
| dave-mccowan | great! | 20:22 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic ptg meeting | 20:22 |
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| dave-mccowan | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-barbican-pike | 20:22 |
| dave-mccowan | we have a small group of cores attending. hopefully we'll get some drop-ins, especially after all the attention we got on the mail list recently. | 20:23 |
| dave-mccowan | any thoughts on how to best use this time? | 20:23 |
| redrobot | If I get to go, I'd like to talk about the simple+secure backend | 20:24 |
| dave-mccowan | we'll patch you in on the big screen. :-) | 20:25 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, I think we'll have many on the big screen | 20:25 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, we should probably continue to put topics on the etherpad | 20:25 |
| dave-mccowan | sounds good. we can use google hangouts. | 20:26 |
| diazjf | awesome that would be great :) | 20:26 |
| dave-mccowan | definitely, please keep adding agenda items to the etherpad. | 20:26 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, and if not too many drop in on the hangouts, we can go code over some beers .. | 20:26 |
| dave-mccowan | alee the best way to write secure code | 20:26 |
| diazjf | alee, I'll have beer with you guys through hangouts! | 20:27 |
| alee | diazjf, perfect | 20:27 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic project tags | 20:27 |
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| dave-mccowan | i still have patches outstanding for vmt-managed, stable-branch, and standard-deprecation. hopefully, we'll get 3 more "stars" when they land. | 20:28 |
| redrobot | dave-mccowan woot! | 20:28 |
| dave-mccowan | redrobot they have some questions about our lack of merges on stable branches. extra stable, right? | 20:29 |
| dave-mccowan | :-) | 20:29 |
| redrobot | haha | 20:29 |
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| dave-mccowan | #Pike PTL | 20:29 |
| dave-mccowan | Nominations for PTL for each project is due this week. | 20:29 |
| dave-mccowan | I'm willing to serve for another cycle, but I'm also willing to let someone else have a turn. | 20:30 |
| dave-mccowan | Let me know if you're thinking about it. | 20:30 |
| redrobot | Dave 4 PTL! | 20:30 |
| diazjf | Dave 2nd term! | 20:31 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic Any other business? | 20:31 |
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| dave-mccowan | thanks for vote of confidence. :-) | 20:31 |
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| dave-mccowan | I'll push for some reviews this week to get open items landed this week for milestone-3. | 20:32 |
| dave-mccowan | thanks! | 20:32 |
| dave-mccowan | see ya later... | 20:33 |
| dave-mccowan | #endmeeting | 20:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 20:33:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-01-23-20.00.html | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-01-23-20.00.txt | 20:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-01-23-20.00.log.html | 20:33 |
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| CarolBarrett | #startmeeting product_working_group | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 21:00:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is CarolBarrett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: product_working_group)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 21:01 |
| shamail | hi everyone | 21:01 |
| leong | o/ | 21:01 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi Folks - Who is here for the product wg meeting? | 21:01 |
| MeganR | Hi | 21:01 |
| shamail | o\ | 21:01 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi | 21:01 |
| CarolBarrett | You can find the agenda here | 21:01 |
| CarolBarrett | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 21:01 |
| kencjohnston | o/ | 21:02 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi kencjohnston | 21:02 |
| kencjohnston | howdy CarolBarrett | 21:02 |
| CarolBarrett | Let's get going and we'll catch up others as they join | 21:03 |
| CarolBarrett | #topic Update | 21:03 |
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| CarolBarrett | I want to start out by sharing an update from me | 21:03 |
| GeraldK | o/ | 21:03 |
| CarolBarrett | After 35+ yrs in the Technology Industry, I have decided it’s time for a change and will be retiring from Intel. | 21:03 |
| CarolBarrett | My last day at Intel will be February 2nd | 21:04 |
| kencjohnston | Noooo.... boooo! | 21:04 |
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| kencjohnston | Also, thank you, and congrats. :) | 21:04 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | I will lurk today | 21:04 |
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| shamail | Congratulations Carol, thank you for everything you have done!!!!!! | 21:04 |
| CarolBarrett | OpenStack, and this team in particular, has been a highlight of my career. I've enjoyed getting to know and working with you all. | 21:04 |
| CarolBarrett | Thanks!! | 21:04 |
| MeganR | You will be so missed and I completely agree with shamail and kencjohnston | 21:05 |
| CarolBarrett | Thanks MeganR! | 21:05 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | Thank you Carol! | 21:05 |
| GeraldK | thanks Carol for your work. it was a pleasure we met. | 21:05 |
| kencjohnston | CarolBarrett: +1 to working and getting to know you | 21:05 |
| CarolBarrett | It's been a pleasure Arkady | 21:05 |
| shamail | CarolBarrett: +1 same here | 21:05 |
| CarolBarrett | Leong has agreed to take on the co-leadership of this WG along with Shamail | 21:06 |
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| GeraldK | Feb 2nd, that's pretty soon... | 21:06 |
| CarolBarrett | I know that am leaving this important work in capable hands and wish you all, individually and as a group, continued success! | 21:06 |
| shamail | This group would not have had the success it has without your leadership. From Enterprise needs in OpenStack to sharing a common goal of increasing adoption by collaboration amongst community members. Your impact/contribution well resonate for years to come. | 21:07 |
| shamail | In the OpenStack community, not just PWG. | 21:07 |
| CarolBarrett | Shamail - Thank you for your kind words! And I look forward to watching from the bleachers, what comes next! | 21:07 |
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| CarolBarrett | We've got a lot on our agenda, I'm going to move along... | 21:08 |
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| CarolBarrett | #topic Boston Summit | 21:08 |
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| leong | carolbarrett: thanks for your fantastic work and contribution in PWG + OpenStack! | 21:08 |
| CarolBarrett | Thank you Leong! | 21:08 |
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| CarolBarrett | Shamail - Do you want to give an overview of the Forum? | 21:09 |
| shamail | Sure | 21:09 |
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| shamail | #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/ | 21:09 |
| shamail | Tom shared a bit more details on the format of the upcoming Forum event in Boston | 21:10 |
| CarolBarrett | #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/ | 21:10 |
| shamail | There will be three main categories for sessions (project, cross-project, and strategic) | 21:10 |
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| shamail | Examples of a project session might be: How many people are using cells or plan to and what are the main considerations | 21:11 |
| shamail | Cross-Project could be “Tell us about your experiences with scaling OpenStack clouds, what can we work on next" | 21:11 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | what is definition of strategic | 21:11 |
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| shamail | Strategic could be “How do we increase contributors in various key initiatives” or “Have we defined our mission clearly”, etc | 21:11 |
| shamail | These are all examples but you can see the broad set of session types as well as the fact that we would need attendance from developers, users, operators, etc to make them a meaningful exchange | 21:12 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | OK. and do we expect that we will user stories to drive strategic initiative? | 21:13 |
| shamail | Furthermore, the meaningful exchange is great but we would want to ensure that the community is able to document needed next steps/outcomes, etc. to make the attendees feel like their needs were heard | 21:13 |
| leong | arkady_kanevsky: that would depends on the user-story.. | 21:13 |
| leong | some user-story would be related to cross-project | 21:13 |
| shamail | Arkady_Kanevsky: User stories must likely will fit into the “cross project” category but some could be strategic | 21:13 |
| leong | e.g. rolling-upgrade | 21:13 |
| kencjohnston | shamail: +1 to documenting and providing ongoing feedback | 21:13 |
| shamail | That is a quick overview of the event, in summary, think of the forum as being the place to discuss and define/refine requirements | 21:14 |
| shamail | with the entirety of the community invited/participating | 21:14 |
| kencjohnston | shamail: perhaps you are getting there, but how are we proposing to collect and track feedback | 21:14 |
| shamail | Any questions on the event itself? | 21:14 |
| shamail | kencjohnston: Great segue :) | 21:14 |
| kencjohnston | :) | 21:14 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | agree on exposing lack of a project as cross-project need thru user-story. | 21:14 |
| shamail | That is one of the open items that we discussed and believe our team can help with based on our skill sets. | 21:15 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | Feel uncomfortable to bring strategic issue thru user story. | 21:15 |
| shamail | We were brainstorming on various ideas but then decided that it is probably best to have a small group of people from our team go off and make a plan to share with the rest of the team and the user committee | 21:15 |
| kencjohnston | shamail: Sign me up :) | 21:15 |
| shamail | There are some ideas on how to best help with collecting and tracking feedback but let’s come together to build a plan we can share | 21:16 |
| shamail | kencjohnston: deal! | 21:16 |
| leong | i think the foundation is hoping PWG can help to formalize a process to document the requirements as discussed at Forum | 21:16 |
| shamail | Here’s the proposal: Who is interested (besides Ken, Leong, and I) to develop a proposal on how to optimize for feedback? We should be able to share high-level thoughts with the UC at their next meeting 1/30 | 21:17 |
| kencjohnston | leong: shamail Agreed, that is a good role for us to play. | 21:17 |
| shamail | we can then collaborate with the UC to help them craft a proposal to take to the overall steering team for the Forum | 21:17 |
| kencjohnston | 1/30 is next week... | 21:17 |
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| shamail | It is | 21:17 |
| kencjohnston | OK, well we better get to work. | 21:18 |
| shamail | kencjohnston: the plan would be to share that we think we need a plan around capturing feedback and some of the reasons why. | 21:18 |
| leong | +1 kencjonston | 21:18 |
| MeganR | I am interested in helping | 21:18 |
| shamail | We can even share some prelimenary ideas but we are really there to see if the UC agrees and if they think they can delegate to us | 21:18 |
| CarolBarrett | I think the UC discussion could be more of an overview of Forum direction, potential role for UC & its work groups and next steps planned by PWG | 21:19 |
| shamail | CarolBarrett: +1 | 21:19 |
| leong | shall we set up sometime to discuss that this week? | 21:19 |
| CarolBarrett | shamail +1 | 21:19 |
| shamail | leong: I think so | 21:19 |
| kencjohnston | leong: +1 | 21:19 |
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| shamail | Okay, I will contact leong, kencjohnston, MeganR to find a time that works | 21:19 |
| CarolBarrett | Is the work group: Kencjohnston, shamail, leong, MeganR? | 21:19 |
| GeraldK | put me in aas well | 21:19 |
| leong | in general, i believe we need support from PWG members here, such as being a coordinator for the Forum sessions | 21:19 |
| CarolBarrett | GeraldK - Thanks | 21:20 |
| CarolBarrett | #action Kencjohnston, shamail, leong, MeganR, GeraldK Create a draft proposal for PWG participation in Forum and bring to this team for discussion | 21:20 |
| shamail | leong: Do you mind leading the scheduling? | 21:20 |
| leong | ok.. i will setup doodle link | 21:20 |
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| shamail | I have another thing I have to schedule so I don’t want to confuse the topics, thanks. | 21:21 |
| leong | sure! assign that AR to me | 21:21 |
| CarolBarrett | #action leong Setup working session for the PWG Forum planning team | 21:22 |
| CarolBarrett | done! | 21:22 |
| CarolBarrett | Anything else about the PWG sub-team or the UC discussion on the 30th? | 21:22 |
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| shamail | Nothing at this time | 21:23 |
| CarolBarrett | OK, let's talk about Boston Submissions then | 21:23 |
| CarolBarrett | #topic Boston Summit Submissions | 21:23 |
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| CarolBarrett | The deadline for submitting sessions is coming up. There are 3 sessions that I am aware of that need to be submitted: PWG BoF, PWG Working Session, Roadmap Session | 21:24 |
| CarolBarrett | Volunteers to submit 1 or more of those? | 21:24 |
| shamail | I think we’ll plan to submit the roadmap session again (thoughts HeidiJoy?)… Anyone else interested in co-presenting? | 21:24 |
| kencjohnston | CarolBarrett: Woudl these sessions be at the Summit or the Forum? | 21:25 |
| shamail | CarolBarrett: I’ll be glad to do the roadmap one | 21:25 |
| CarolBarrett | #action Shamail to submit the Roadmap session for Boston | 21:25 |
| kencjohnston | CarolBarrett: I'll do the BoF session | 21:25 |
| CarolBarrett | kencjohnston: all of these will be in the Summit, but excellent question about what we'd want to submit for the Forum | 21:25 |
| kencjohnston | And BOF is both a "this is what we are about" and a "join us at the forum"? | 21:25 |
| CarolBarrett | #action kencjohnston submit the PWG BoF session for Boston | 21:26 |
| CarolBarrett | kenjohnston: Yes | 21:26 |
| shamail | kencjohnston: The submissions for Forum have not started yet, I anticipate we will propose sessions there too but we can discuss as soon as we know specifics. | 21:26 |
| kencjohnston | CarolBarrett: +1 | 21:26 |
| kencjohnston | shamail: Agreed, I think the deadline is mid-march | 21:26 |
| CarolBarrett | shamail +1 | 21:26 |
| CarolBarrett | Leong: Will you submit the PWG working group session? | 21:26 |
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| leong | i'm sure i can, however, before i do that, anyone else want to volunteer? :) | 21:27 |
| CarolBarrett | There is a 3 submission limit! | 21:27 |
| kencjohnston | I feel like the Working Group should be from one of the co-chairs | 21:28 |
| kencjohnston | but I"m happy to do it. | 21:28 |
| leong | Kei (Fujitsu) and I plan to propose another session as well (further discussion at today regional meeting) | 21:28 |
| leong | no problem....i can go ahead and submit the Working Group session :) | 21:28 |
| shamail | thanks kencjohnston, I will be at 3 session limit | 21:28 |
| CarolBarrett | #action Leong Submit the PWG working session for Boston | 21:29 |
| CarolBarrett | What other proposals are people making? And what other ones do you think should be made?? | 21:29 |
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| HeidiJoy | This submission should go through the usual channels (CFP process) but note that we as a PWG also have the opportunity to fill 32 slots with project updates, which are not through the regular CFP process, so there is some wiggle room. | 21:30 |
| kencjohnston | I'll be doing an OSIC Roadmap review submission | 21:30 |
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| kencjohnston | HeidiJoy: Project updates? Can you say more about that? | 21:30 |
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| shamail | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-01-16-21.00.log.html#l-210 | 21:31 |
| HeidiJoy | It was what I brought up last week: 32, 40-minute slots for PTLs to provide updates and Q&A time on their project. I have an email coming to the PWG shortly requesting further input. No need to discuss now. | 21:31 |
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| kencjohnston | HeidiJoy: Thanks. | 21:31 |
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| kencjohnston | Next topic? | 21:34 |
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| CarolBarrett | Ok.... | 21:34 |
| CarolBarrett | #topic Simplifying User Story Submission | 21:34 |
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| CarolBarrett | Shamail - You're up again! | 21:34 |
| shamail | Thanks! | 21:34 |
| shamail | The topic of simplifying our workflow/user story submission process was established as an overall goal for the PWG in this cycle. | 21:35 |
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| shamail | With things like the Forum, collaboration with other communities (e.g. OPNFV, etc.) and our role in helping aggregate needs from the UC WGs it is fairly critical at this point | 21:35 |
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| shamail | In the future, it would be great if we could get more people submitting stories themselves and working with us to help refine content as needed, figure out how to move things to the next stage, etc. | 21:36 |
| shamail | I had volunteered to lead this goal for the cycle | 21:36 |
| shamail | and would greatly appreciate help from the team in brainstorming possible solutions: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG-story-submission-ideas | 21:36 |
| shamail | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG-story-submission-ideas | 21:37 |
| CarolBarrett | You can also find the link to the etherpad on our Wiki under Ocata Goals | 21:37 |
| shamail | We have created an etherpad to capture possible ways to simplify the process and I would like you to add additional ideas | 21:37 |
| shamail | We can revisit this in a week or two to start discussing a few of these in more detail for feasability | 21:37 |
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| shamail | Tom had also mentioned that he would be glad to send little pieces of information that he gets from his conversations with users to our mailing list | 21:38 |
| shamail | It would be great if we could also capture those so they don’t get lost over time and we could eventually see trends or match them to user stories | 21:38 |
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| CarolBarrett | Shamail: Do you want to set a date for a follow-up discussion in this meeting? | 21:39 |
| shamail | Let’s brain storm for now but the two areas we have been thinking about are: “Can we help ensure information that is not fully ready to become a user story yet could be captured/stored somewhere as a backlog item” and “Can we make the process of submitting and adhering to our format/template easier so that others can contribute directtly?" | 21:39 |
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| shamail | Let’s target the 6th for this one since we have a lot of things to do before next week | 21:40 |
| leong | +1 shamail on the action plan | 21:40 |
| shamail | I will be glad to send a reminder via ML next week | 21:40 |
| shamail | That’s all for now on the topic… any questions/comments? | 21:41 |
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| CarolBarrett | #action Team add your thoughts to the etherpad for User Story Simplifcation | 21:41 |
| CarolBarrett | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG-story-submission-ideas | 21:41 |
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| CarolBarrett | #action Leong,Shamail add a topic to the 2/6 team meeting to review and discuss the etherpad ideas | 21:42 |
| CarolBarrett | Anything else on this topic? | 21:42 |
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| CarolBarrett | Ok - then let's move along | 21:43 |
| CarolBarrett | #topic Opens | 21:43 |
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| kencjohnston | I had one. | 21:43 |
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| CarolBarrett | go ahead kencjohnston | 21:44 |
| kencjohnston | GeraldK started a thread about some confusion in our template between User Story and Use Case | 21:44 |
| kencjohnston | Great call out GeraldK, thank you. | 21:44 |
| kencjohnston | I've got a patch up that I THINK correct the confusion. Please review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424228/ | 21:44 |
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| leong | the patch is a small change but affect many files... | 21:45 |
| GeraldK | thanks kencjohnston. it is one option to solve the confusion. | 21:45 |
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| shamail | kencjohnston: +1 and great recommendation GeraldK | 21:45 |
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| kencjohnston | leong: Correct, and to be clear, I suggested an option other than GeraldK's original because the impact was lower. | 21:46 |
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| shamail | The question I have is that isn’t the “as a <persona>…” format generally called a user story in practice? | 21:46 |
| shamail | #link http://www.boost.co.nz/blog/2012/01/use-cases-or-user-stories/ | 21:46 |
| shamail | Is user story == use case or is usage scenario == use case? | 21:47 |
| GeraldK | the only "imperfection" of this solution is that we call the individual 1 sentence user stories "use cases". | 21:47 |
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| GeraldK | shamail: you are right. this is what is called a user story. | 21:47 |
| shamail | user stories are lighter in my opinion whereas use case gives much more context (environment, giving variables definition, etc.) | 21:48 |
| kencjohnston | GeraldK: shamail +1 | 21:48 |
| kencjohnston | But that would have us rename our entire repo | 21:48 |
| kencjohnston | :) | 21:48 |
| shamail | What if we replace usage scenario with use case | 21:48 |
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| GeraldK | but then, we also decided to call the overall document with all content a "user story" which then inside consists -among other things- of many user stories | 21:48 |
| shamail | Would that not align with the necessary change and making the terms less interchangable? | 21:48 |
| shamail | Yeah | 21:48 |
| shamail | kencjohnston, GeraldK: I see the issue :| | 21:49 |
| leong | the issue: "a user story within a user story" | 21:49 |
| shamail | What would rename the repo to (ideally)? That is always an option as well. | 21:49 |
| kencjohnston | My suggestion, merge the "make it less confusing" patch, and then we can deliberate on the "make it use the standard terms" patch. | 21:49 |
| shamail | kencjohnston: +1 | 21:50 |
| kencjohnston | shamail: ideally we would call them "OpenStack Use Cases" | 21:50 |
| shamail | We could add it as a midcycle item | 21:50 |
| GeraldK | ideally, I would rename what we call "user story" (i mean the whole thing) to something like "requirement specification". but then this is similar to our discussion team vs WG, folks know about our user stories in that sense as we used it in the past | 21:50 |
| leong | +1 kencjohnston shamail | 21:50 |
| andyu | +1 | 21:50 |
| shamail | requirement specification is too tactical and there is an implied implementation in the community when using “requirement" | 21:50 |
| GeraldK | kenjohnson: -1 to merge the patch if we already forsee different terms to be used soon | 21:51 |
| shamail | I agree with merging the less confusing patch for now | 21:51 |
| kencjohnston | GeraldK: Foreseeing and merging can take months... | 21:51 |
| shamail | it wont be soon GeraldK and the changes can be done incrementally | 21:51 |
| HeidiJoy | +1 to considering renaming "user stories." In design we'd call it a "creative brief" - maybe in lieu of the word "requirement" consider "user needs" or "request" ... or similar? | 21:51 |
| shamail | At the earliest, we would discuss in March | 21:51 |
| HeidiJoy | +1 would love to discuss in person at midcycle | 21:51 |
| shamail | the larger rename I meant | 21:51 |
| GeraldK | i am concerned if we change and then change again folks would get even more confused... | 21:52 |
| leong | let's merge the tentative change and we can discuss at midcycle in more details | 21:52 |
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| HeidiJoy | I've encountered a lot of confusion on the definition of "user story" however. | 21:52 |
| leong | meanwhile giving the team time for ideas | 21:52 |
| shamail | HeidiJoy: +1, especially in our community since we also have https://www.openstack.org/user-stories | 21:52 |
| HeidiJoy | ^^ exactly | 21:52 |
| andyu | +1 heidijoy | 21:53 |
| kencjohnston | GeraldK: +1 for bringing it up, it is a glaring point of confusion. | 21:53 |
| GeraldK | heidijoy: would creative brief replace the 1 sentence user stories or the big documents? | 21:53 |
| CarolBarrett | #action Shamail, Leong, Cores Merge patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424228/ | 21:53 |
| shamail | So what is the majority here? Option #1: Review “less confusing” and discuss rename in Midcycle or Option #2 dont make any change for now and discuss at midcycle? | 21:53 |
| GeraldK | shall we setup an Etherpad to discuss the various options? | 21:53 |
| shamail | My vote is for #1 | 21:54 |
| andyu | what is being called a user story here will ultimately result in many user stories to implement (in an agile framework) | 21:54 |
| shamail | GeraldK: please add it to the midcycle etherpad | 21:54 |
| CarolBarrett | #action Shamail, Leong Include a topic at the Midcycle for further discussion on User Stories naming and structure | 21:54 |
| leong | #1 | 21:54 |
| CarolBarrett | Shamail: +1 | 21:54 |
| shamail | GeraldK: Add section in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-pwg-meetup | 21:54 |
| CarolBarrett | Other Opens? | 21:54 |
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| shamail | andyu: +1 | 21:55 |
| shamail | None from me | 21:55 |
| MeganR | I'm good | 21:55 |
| CarolBarrett | Next week, we want to get an update on location planning for our Midcycle. If you had previously indicated that you might have a location, pls be ready with an update | 21:55 |
| * shamail sad because we only have one more meeting with CarolBarrett :[ | 21:55 | |
| kencjohnston | None from me. | 21:55 |
| CarolBarrett | You can put it in the midcycle planning etherpad, which can be found on our Wiki | 21:55 |
| MeganR | Very sad!! | 21:55 |
| CarolBarrett | I'll miss you guys.... | 21:56 |
| jamemcc | Jamey McCabe from LCOO (large contributing openstack operators) WG here. I'll put this in the Midcycle planning Document: | 21:56 |
| HeidiJoy | <3 We'll miss you too! <3 | 21:56 |
| jamemcc | It was a proposal to the member companies of LCOO that we could go to Milan to have our own Face to Face and also have sessions with PWG, however seems that we can't get a large enough group (in fact not likely more than 3 members could send staff). As a result we'd like to see if we could have some joint session with PWG soon after. | 21:56 |
| shamail | jamemcc: Is virtual okay? | 21:57 |
| jamemcc | We are hoping to talk in general about our process but also about our User stories comign out of our roadmapping process that we hope to get help with. All this in prep for the Queens Forum. One proposal is Telconference hosted by AT&T. | 21:57 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi Jamey - good to see you here. Pls make additions to the etherpad! | 21:57 |
| leong | jamemcc: or shot an email to maillist to start the discussion | 21:58 |
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| CarolBarrett | Let's wrap-up and get 2 mins back. We will pickup the midcycle topic next week or via the ML. | 21:58 |
| CarolBarrett | Bye | 21:59 |
| MeganR | Bye! | 21:59 |
| CarolBarrett | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 21:59:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-01-23-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-01-23-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-01-23-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
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| GeraldK | bye | 21:59 |
| leong | bye | 21:59 |
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| jeblair | howdy zuul folks | 22:01 |
| Shrews | howdy | 22:01 |
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| Shrews | hrm, less than last week? | 22:03 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:03 |
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| rcarrillocruz | o/ | 22:03 |
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| pabelanger | hi | 22:03 |
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| * ianw sweltering but here | 22:04 | |
| jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 22:05:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:05 |
| fungi | oh, yeah, meeting | 22:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:05 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:05 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-01-09-22.03.html | 22:05 |
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| jeblair | #topic Announcements | 22:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:05 | |
| jeblair | I'd like to remind everyone to please frequently review zuulv3 related changes, and to use a bookmark in gerrit or gertty dashboard | 22:06 |
| jeblair | the search query you should use is: "status:open (branch:feature/zuulv3 OR topic:zuulv3 OR branch:feature/gearman-zk-shim)" | 22:07 |
| jeblair | #info use gerrit search query: "status:open (branch:feature/zuulv3 OR topic:zuulv3 OR branch:feature/gearman-zk-shim)" | 22:07 |
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| jeblair | that's updated with the latest based on mordred's zk shim work | 22:08 |
| jeblair | #topic Actions from last meeting | 22:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:08 | |
| jeblair | mordred describe plan for zuulv2->nodepoolv3 shim in mailing list post | 22:08 |
| jeblair | that is completed | 22:08 |
| jeblair | the branch exists | 22:08 |
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| jeblair | and morded has a change to it that alters the .gitreview and the README.rst files: 421478 | 22:09 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Nodepool Zookeeper work | 22:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Nodepool Zookeeper work (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:09 | |
| jeblair | aside from that change, i don't think mordred has anything further on the zk shim | 22:10 |
| jeblair | i've started working on the zuul-nodepool integration job | 22:10 |
| jeblair | not quite running yet, but should have something soon | 22:11 |
| pabelanger | I wouldn't mind trying an experimental job for some ansible things I've been working on for integration testing, if we are open to that | 22:11 |
| pabelanger | bascially bootstraps a node with zuul / nodepool / zookeeper, makes sure things are running with a simple image build right now | 22:12 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: well, when i proposed this job, i wanted to keep things very simple and fast, so i'm running nodepool with a fake image so we don't have to test the image building | 22:13 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: (nodepool has the devstack test which covers image building; zuul doesn't need to test that) | 22:13 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: sure, the same could be done with the playbooks | 22:13 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: ok, how about this -- i proceed with my "just spawn the daemon in a shell script" approach until we get it working, then look at making it nicer with playbooks | 22:14 |
| pabelanger | sure, I don't want to stop progress | 22:14 |
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| jeblair | i think the deployment tooling we will need for this will be very simple, so we can get it in place soon. but i know we're going to want more deployment tooling for other stuff later, so i think it would be fine to use it in this job as long as we aren't making the job itself too complex | 22:15 |
| Shrews | I'm getting really close to having nodepool actually satisfy requests. Then we can work on re-enabling tests after that. | 22:16 |
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| Shrews | (again) | 22:16 |
| jeblair | then it sounds like we might be pretty close to needing this job! :) | 22:17 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Devstack-gate roles refactoring | 22:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Devstack-gate roles refactoring (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:18 | |
| jeblair | anyone have anything to discuss about this? | 22:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | my update is | 22:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | that i will have updates soon | 22:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | sorry for been away lately | 22:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | new job + new city + house still not reeady to live in is proving to be stressful :/ | 22:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: ^ | 22:19 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: hang in there :) | 22:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 22:20 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Zuul test enablement | 22:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Zuul test enablement (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:21 | |
| jeblair | there are some stale changes for this... i've been poking people privately to remind them. hopefully they should get updated soon. otherwise, i don't think there's much progress on this front recently? | 22:21 |
| jeblair | without SpamapS around, i'm going to skip the progress summary | 22:23 |
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| jeblair | #topic Open Discussion | 22:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:23 | |
| jeblair | I've started work on the "actually run ansible playbooks" part of the work | 22:23 |
| jeblair | which is probably one of our last big hand-wavey things | 22:23 |
| fungi | hopefully a lot of that is liftable from master? | 22:24 |
| Shrews | \o/ | 22:24 |
| jeblair | fungi: none of it | 22:24 |
| fungi | or is there a major divergence in how that will work | 22:24 |
| fungi | yikes | 22:24 |
| jeblair | *running* ansible isn't the hard part, that's what comes from master | 22:24 |
| jeblair | the hard part is running native ansible playbooks defined in zuul repos | 22:24 |
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| jeblair | rather than auto-generated playbooks from jjb | 22:25 |
| fungi | ahh, yep that would count as novel still ;) | 22:25 |
| jeblair | so this is the opportunity for the folks who have said "ansible, oh cool, i'd like to help with that" to help with that. :) | 22:25 |
| jeblair | please follow those changes and review them. there will be many places for people to jump in and help. | 22:25 |
| jeblair | but it will require engagement. | 22:25 |
| jeblair | #link run native ansible playbooks https://review.openstack.org/423550 | 22:26 |
| jeblair | it starts with that change ^ | 22:26 |
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| jeblair | anyone have anything else? | 22:28 |
| Shrews | nope | 22:28 |
| fungi | the change to mark the nodepool zk work as implemented merged earlier today | 22:29 |
| fungi | (and there was much rejoicing) | 22:29 |
| Shrews | fungi: oh? review #? | 22:29 |
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| fungi | the zk-based image builds that is | 22:29 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/424229 Mark nodepool image workers specs as complete | 22:30 |
| jeblair | oh, and that reminds me, i put this change up on the infra agenda tomorrow -- it adds some info to the v3 spec that slipped through the cracks: | 22:30 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/410442 Update zuulv3 spec to include job repo information | 22:30 |
| jeblair | hopefully that's not too surprising to anyone | 22:31 |
| rcarrillocruz | ah, that's neat | 22:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | and makes a lot of sense | 22:32 |
| * mordred waves at people, having just gotten back from dinner | 22:32 | |
| fungi | that'll nicely simplify devstack-gate too if i'm understanding correctly | 22:33 |
| * Shrews throws a schnitzel at mordred | 22:34 | |
| jeblair | fungi: exactly, it's a comprehensive replacement for $PROJECTS, and goes in the job definition | 22:34 |
| fungi | Shrews: a wet wad of kartoffelsalat would probably work better | 22:35 |
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| jeblair | thanks everyone! this seems like as good a time as any to | 22:37 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 22:37 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-01-23-22.05.html | 22:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-01-23-22.05.txt | 22:37 |
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