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| aspiers | anyone around? | 09:01 |
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| samP | hi o/ | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | oh hi samP, sorry I had notifications disabled | 09:17 |
| samP | aspiers: hi, np | 09:17 |
| aspiers | no ddeja today | 09:18 |
| aspiers | beekhof? | 09:18 |
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| samP | aspiers: Do you have any plan to submit a talk to next summit? | 09:19 |
| aspiers | samP: I was thinking about that | 09:19 |
| aspiers | maybe we could co-present? | 09:19 |
| samP | aspiers: sure, | 09:20 |
| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:20 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 09:20:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:20 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:20 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:20 |
| aspiers | let's just have a quick chat | 09:20 |
| samP | aspiers: sure, in that case, I have to let go one of my talks, but its ok | 09:20 |
| aspiers | #topic Boston | 09:20 |
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| aspiers | samP: I guess you would suggest another talk on compute HA? | 09:21 |
| samP | aspiers: talk submit deadline is 2/6 (I think) | 09:21 |
| aspiers | yes, it's soon | 09:21 |
| beekhof | aspiers: howdy | 09:21 |
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| aspiers | oh hey beekhof | 09:21 |
| aspiers | beekhof: you gonna come to Boston? | 09:21 |
| samP | beekhof: hi | 09:21 |
| beekhof | sorry, the US is on my No-Fly-To list | 09:21 |
| aspiers | ah, you too | 09:21 |
| aspiers | Tim and Florian too | 09:22 |
| samP | aspiers: I was thinking to submit one about compute-HA but more masakari related | 09:22 |
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| samP | aspiers: but I can join with you.. | 09:22 |
| beekhof | organising a conference in the US right now seems borderline dumb and more than a little insensitive | 09:22 |
| aspiers | beekhof: agreed but there is a blog explaining why | 09:23 |
| beekhof | -ENOCARE | 09:23 |
| aspiers | I'm definitely not gonna argue with you on that :) | 09:23 |
| beekhof | :) | 09:23 |
| aspiers | samP: if we could write a simple host monitor which notifies masakari for host recovery then I think doing a joint talk is justified | 09:24 |
| aspiers | since that demonstrates the idea of a componentized architecture | 09:25 |
| samP | aspiers: sure | 09:25 |
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| aspiers | and it should be easy to do I think | 09:25 |
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| samP | aspiers: I can do that | 09:25 |
| aspiers | we could follow the driver idea, so that it can have a driver to notify masakari via its native mechanism, and also a driver to notify any other service via standard https | 09:26 |
| aspiers | or if it's easy, to enhance masakari to accept the standard message | 09:26 |
| aspiers | or just make them the same format | 09:26 |
| aspiers | I need to learn more about how masakari currently works | 09:27 |
| samP | aspiers: It depends on what is "standard message" | 09:27 |
| aspiers | samP: well we can define it to be whatever we want :) but something which is suitable for any recovery workflow controller to handle | 09:28 |
| aspiers | it's ok if it supports masakari extensions, but not ok if it requires masakari-specific things | 09:28 |
| samP | aspiers: correct, I thought you are referring to smt already exist | 09:29 |
| aspiers | ah, no :) | 09:29 |
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| aspiers | are there any docs for masakari yet? | 09:30 |
| samP | aspiers: current masakari-monitors does not require any masakari-specific info, however there is a format for every thing | 09:30 |
| samP | aspiers: sorry, docs are on the way.. | 09:31 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:31 |
| aspiers | we need the host monitor to support different notifications anyway, so that it can notify mistral too | 09:31 |
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| samP | aspiers: agree, both cases we have to prepare the data with required format from the engine (mistral/masakari or etc...) | 09:33 |
| aspiers | samP: could you do a very quick rough doc somewhere (etherpad/wiki) describing how masakari monitors send notification to the controller? | 09:33 |
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| samP | aspiers: sure, I will do it on wiki | 09:34 |
| aspiers | beekhof: from our side I think the action would be to split fence_compute into two decoupled parts: the monitoring code and the recovery code | 09:34 |
| samP | and will send you the link | 09:34 |
| aspiers | beekhof: or at least to conceptually split it, if not into separate files | 09:35 |
| aspiers | samP: great thanks! | 09:35 |
| aspiers | #action samP to document how masakari monitors send notification to the controller | 09:35 |
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| samP | aspiers: sure, thanks for the action item | 09:36 |
| beekhof | i'm not sure i follow | 09:36 |
| aspiers | samP: so maybe I should draft a synopsis for a talk proposal | 09:36 |
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| beekhof | fence_compute only performs evacuations | 09:36 |
| beekhof | it doesn't look for failed vms | 09:37 |
| samP | aspiers: That would be great..thank you | 09:37 |
| aspiers | beekhof: no but it sets the attribute | 09:37 |
| aspiers | beekhof: which is akin to sending a notification to the recovery workflow controller (NovaEvacuate) | 09:37 |
| aspiers | #action aspiers to draft a proposal for a joint talk with samP on next gen compute HA | 09:38 |
| beekhof | in that case we agree | 09:38 |
| beekhof | i didnt really like that it was called twice in two completely different modes | 09:38 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: ok cool, me neither. | 09:38 |
| aspiers | beekhof: Since we have the underlying goal of componentising everything to support a modular approach, this decoupling would be a key part of that | 09:39 |
| aspiers | beekhof: since currently the monitoring part of fence_compute only works with the recovery part of fence_compute | 09:39 |
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| aspiers | since both are dependent on attrd_updater | 09:39 |
| aspiers | if we convert it to send / receive generic JSON notifications via https then it can work with any other approach to recovery | 09:40 |
| aspiers | I guess we need some thought on how to do that reliably | 09:40 |
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| aspiers | e.g. what if the recovery workflow controller which receives notifications is offline when a compute host dies and gets fenced | 09:41 |
| beekhof | sounds like fun | 09:42 |
| aspiers | obviously https is not a stateful queue | 09:42 |
| aspiers | whereas at least attrd can act as one | 09:42 |
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| aspiers | hmm, actually we could keep attrd acting as a queue, and then have a separate cluster process which takes items off the "queue" as soon as it successfully notifies a controller about them | 09:43 |
| aspiers | that would probably work | 09:44 |
| ddeja | Hi guys, I had problems with my PC... | 09:44 |
| samP | aspiers: IMO, that is way the HA of recovery controller itself is important, https is stateless but we could retry | 09:44 |
| samP | ddeja: hi | 09:44 |
| aspiers | samP: we could retry, but we wouldn't be allowed to ever give up | 09:44 |
| aspiers | and if the process running the retries died, then the notification would get lost | 09:45 |
| aspiers | hey ddeja :) | 09:45 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: so actually, the change would be more to NovaEvacuate | 09:46 |
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| samP | aspiers: true | 09:46 |
| aspiers | beekhof: that NovaEvacuate would be responsible not for recovery, but instead for notifying the recovery workflow controller | 09:46 |
| beekhof | that could work | 09:47 |
| aspiers | of course we'd probably want to change the name | 09:47 |
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| aspiers | but architecturally that's my idea | 09:47 |
| aspiers | cool! that sounds like a potentially strategy for starting to unify all three approaches | 09:48 |
| aspiers | which would make migration to masakari/mistral easier | 09:48 |
| aspiers | #topic architecture | 09:49 |
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| aspiers | #info aspiers proposed an extension to ddeja's driver-based approach which would work with not only masakari/mistral but also potentially the OCF agents | 09:50 |
| aspiers | I'll try to capture it in the specs | 09:50 |
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| aspiers | #action aspiers to capture proposal in the specs | 09:51 |
| aspiers | of course we can consider other approaches too | 09:51 |
| beekhof | aspiers: what if it was a different agent | 09:51 |
| aspiers | beekhof: what do you mean? | 09:51 |
| beekhof | NovaEvacuate for the existing pacemaker way, and mistral-evacuate for the new one | 09:51 |
| aspiers | absolutely | 09:52 |
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| aspiers | well, it wouldn't necessarily be mistral-evacuate. I think it should aim to support both mistral and masakari | 09:52 |
| aspiers | then later masakari can potentially use mistral to do its work | 09:52 |
| beekhof | json-evacuate then :) | 09:52 |
| aspiers | right :) | 09:52 |
| beekhof | dont much care what its called, but not trying to support json and attrd in the same agent seems like a good idea | 09:53 |
| aspiers | +100 | 09:53 |
| aspiers | beekhof: and the cool thing about having two RAs is that you could trivially migrate a cluster from one to the other by having the two resources co-existing during the switch-over | 09:54 |
| aspiers | you would simply turn the old one off and the new one on | 09:54 |
| aspiers | boom - done | 09:54 |
| beekhof | yep | 09:54 |
| aspiers | since they could still use the same attributes | 09:54 |
| aspiers | hooray | 09:54 |
| aspiers | this sounds suspiciously easy | 09:55 |
| beekhof | lets not jump the gun on upgrades though, i believe its tradition to wait until the new way is in production | 09:55 |
| aspiers | true | 09:55 |
| aspiers | samP: I made some updates to your spec based on ddeja's feedback | 09:55 |
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| samP | aspiers: thanks.. | 09:56 |
| aspiers | samP: please review when you get a chance | 09:57 |
| samP | aspiers: sure I will | 09:57 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: ? | 09:58 |
| aspiers | ddeja: I'll update the host monitor spec to suggest supporting driver plugins, with one for mistral, one for JSON, and another for masakari if it needs something different to the standard JSON one | 09:58 |
| aspiers | ok, looks like we're out of time | 09:58 |
| aspiers | but that was a pleasingly productive discussion | 09:58 |
| aspiers | if you have anything else, let's just continue on #openstack-ha | 09:59 |
| aspiers | thanks guys! | 09:59 |
| samP | thank you all! | 09:59 |
| ddeja | thanks | 09:59 |
| aspiers | bye for now :) | 09:59 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 09:59:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-02-01-09.20.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-02-01-09.20.txt | 09:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-02-01-09.20.log.html | 10:00 |
| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 10:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:00 |
| tonyb | #topic roll call | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:00 | |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 10:00 |
| tonyb | Who's here? | 10:00 |
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| prometheanfire | :D | 10:01 |
| tonyb | number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl ping? | 10:01 |
| toabctl | hi | 10:02 |
| tonyb | woot! we have toabctl ;P | 10:02 |
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| toabctl | tonyb, I was on vacation :) | 10:03 |
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| tonyb | toabctl: Ahh that wasn't a dig I'm sorry. It was just I convinced prometheanfire to get up early for the meeting and it looked like it was going to be the 2 of us | 10:03 |
| tonyb | toabctl: now there's 3 :) | 10:03 |
| tonyb | So we don't have a queue as such so I'll skip that | 10:04 |
| prometheanfire | that's quorum? :P | 10:05 |
| tonyb | we're iut of time for priorities so /skip | 10:05 |
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| tonyb | so lets just go straight to open discussion / retrospective of what happen in Jan / the freeze | 10:06 |
| dirk | tonyb: hey | 10:06 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire, toabctl, dirk go! | 10:06 |
| prometheanfire | so | 10:06 |
| tonyb | dirk: hey | 10:06 |
| prometheanfire | not too much I don't think | 10:06 |
| prometheanfire | I overfroze things in mitaka/newton, but that was fixed quickly enough | 10:07 |
| prometheanfire | osc still comes in late and that sucks, but it's osc, so what can you do | 10:07 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: yeah it's part service (well client consumer) and part library | 10:08 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 10:08 |
| prometheanfire | and constantly breaks other things lol | 10:08 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: hehe, yeah we shoudl try to get some functional testing on u-c chnages but that's a lot of CPU time :( | 10:09 |
| prometheanfire | indeed | 10:09 |
| tonyb | it's a slipery slope | 10:10 |
| dirk | tonyb: I think its worth it | 10:10 |
| prometheanfire | iirc doug and dirk were working on a project that seemed to be 'the canary in the coal mine' in relation to osc iirc | 10:10 |
| dirk | we definitely need to improve testing time, it reduces the number of high-urgency-reverts/fixups that we need to get through the gate afterwards | 10:11 |
| prometheanfire | so we might be able to cross check that one and get some good coverage increase | 10:11 |
| dirk | well, my original plan was to extend the *-cross-* jobs to also run a rally functional test | 10:11 |
| dirk | I think in this cycle we broke rally 4 times, so just one job would have caught those four regressions easily | 10:12 |
| prometheanfire | ya, rally, that one :D | 10:12 |
| dirk | I was looking at the infra config for this but I got completely lost | 10:12 |
| prometheanfire | we may be able to run it only when updating osc if it's too heavy even | 10:12 |
| dirk | my opinion is always that electrons are cheap, humans are not | 10:12 |
| tonyb | okay | 10:13 |
| tonyb | dirk: are you going to be at the PTG? | 10:13 |
| dirk | tonyb: yes, saturday-wednesday | 10:13 |
| prometheanfire | guess we should talk about that next? | 10:13 |
| dirk | I have conflicting appointments so I need to leave early | 10:13 |
| dirk | tonyb: we could probably sit down together there with an infra person and get it done, yep | 10:13 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay I'll add this to the agenda for the PTG so we can discuss this and work through the project-config chnage | 10:13 |
| tonyb | dirk: I know enough infra to make this work | 10:14 |
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| dirk | great | 10:14 |
| tonyb | we'll need to pick a good rally test and or good osc chnages | 10:14 |
| tonyb | sadly we need to do it on all as we can't select jobs based on the *contents* of files just the files that chnage :/ | 10:15 |
| dirk | you mean we only run rally on our oslo releases? :) | 10:15 |
| tonyb | dirk: no I mean like the current *-cross-* jobs they'll need to run on every u-c change not just the ones for osc | 10:17 |
| prometheanfire | ah, that's too bad | 10:18 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah but we can try it and see like I said it's a lot of CPU *BUT* if it catches bugs then it'll be worth it | 10:21 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 10:22 |
| tonyb | we have time on Tuesday Morning and we can discuss / work through stuff then | 10:22 |
| prometheanfire | we've already made significiant progress this cycle based on the existing cross tests | 10:22 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 10:22 |
| prometheanfire | I'll be arriving monday morning, so it's probably better to consider me out before lunch | 10:22 |
| prometheanfire | though I may get in earlier, dunno | 10:23 |
| tonyb | the agenda is: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgt-stable-requirements-ptg-pike | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | land in ATL at 9:05am | 10:23 |
| tonyb | I have a couple of things for post branching/ the pike thaw that I'd like to discuss .... | 10:24 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, saw the ml post | 10:25 |
| tonyb | Once we open for pike I want to hold off any minimum bumps for a while | 10:26 |
| prometheanfire | min in master and ocata branches? | 10:27 |
| tonyb | and the sorting of u-c ... I kinda think that it's a no brainer to alter the sort order as it's mostly machine consumed so anything we can do to make that better is a good thing | 10:27 |
| prometheanfire | true | 10:28 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: we don't do min bumps in stable/* branches I was talking about master | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | heh, right | 10:28 |
| tonyb | we saw a bunch of backwards updates due to us being agressive with the minimum bumps and then that bit us | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | ya, you mentioned that in the email | 10:29 |
| tonyb | I don't know for sure how long it'll be and what the signal will be but it was a mess this cycle | 10:29 |
| prometheanfire | you mean how we updated gr early in it? | 10:30 |
| tonyb | yeah | 10:32 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 10:32 |
| tonyb | I think we need to look at which projects have branched and taken the bot updates | 10:32 |
| prometheanfire | seeking to prune projects.txt? | 10:33 |
| prometheanfire | or what? | 10:33 |
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| tonyb | no nothing of the sort. I just want to avoid a bunch of issues for the stable releases | 10:34 |
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| prometheanfire | ah, so we can use that as a limiter for what we update | 10:34 |
| tonyb | yeah somethign like that | 10:35 |
| tonyb | I also think somewhat early in pike we need to do somethign with python-kafka | 10:37 |
| prometheanfire | how so? | 10:37 |
| tonyb | sadly that'll suck for monasca I hope to find Roland/Joe at the PTG to talk through that | 10:38 |
| dirk | tonyb: so regarding uc, should we just take the sha-ify change? I'm ok with it | 10:38 |
| dirk | (after branching that is) | 10:38 |
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| prometheanfire | well, they should be migrating to the new lib | 10:38 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yeah I think so but e have a few weeks to settle on that. | 10:39 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yes there are a number of things that could be done better but oslo.messaging is stuck and has been for too long | 10:40 |
| dirk | tonyb: I agree, the kafka issue we could have solved better | 10:40 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: we unstuck them I thought... | 10:40 |
| dirk | I don't understand why oslo.messaging isn't able to adapt the same library that monasca now switched to | 10:40 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: que? | 10:40 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: we bumped uc and gr ~1.5 weeks ago for python-kafka | 10:40 |
| prometheanfire | for oslo.messaging | 10:41 |
| tonyb | what did monasca do/ which did we take? | 10:41 |
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| prometheanfire | monasca is currently vendoring the old while they switch to the new c based python lib | 10:41 |
| prometheanfire | like the json thing again | 10:41 |
| prometheanfire | it may be nice to get everyone on the same lib though | 10:42 |
| prometheanfire | kafka-python===1.3.2 | 10:42 |
| prometheanfire | it was less that 1.0 | 10:42 |
| prometheanfire | pykafka===2.5.0 was added as the new one monasca is using | 10:43 |
| tonyb | Huh I didn't see that happen | 10:43 |
| prometheanfire | it was while you were out | 10:43 |
| tonyb | oh well never mind me then | 10:43 |
| prometheanfire | we still need to make sure they are not going to be vendoring it | 10:43 |
| prometheanfire | and maybe talk to oslo.messaging about switching (and any others) | 10:44 |
| prometheanfire | but the immediate problem's been fixed | 10:44 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: they aren't. my understanding is that monasca is switching to pykafka and olso.messaging uses the new kafka-python | 10:44 |
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| dirk | tonyb: well, its still an issue (two libs for the same thing). its something where prometheanfire and I decided to opt for duplication rather than forcing everyone to agree on a short time | 10:45 |
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| prometheanfire | dirk: I'm aware, I just want to ask if oslo.messaging can use pykafka | 10:45 |
| dirk | I would have preferred that both would have settled on the same solution (like both adapting pykafka or monasca switching to oslo.messaging) | 10:45 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: we have the same thing with a json lib | 10:45 |
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| prometheanfire | there's a c backed on for things that need the speed | 10:46 |
| tonyb | I think I'm okay with the duplication | 10:46 |
| tonyb | dirk, prometheanfire: thanks | 10:47 |
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| * tonyb wonders why monasca didn't do that 8 months ago | 10:48 | |
| dirk | my understanding is that they underestimated the whole g-r thing | 10:48 |
| prometheanfire | probably | 10:48 |
| dirk | I was working with some of the team to get their g-r incompabile changes sorted out | 10:48 |
| dirk | which is also why I cleaned up the psutil thing | 10:48 |
| dirk | which we finally got merged | 10:48 |
| prometheanfire | divergant mins wouldn't have helped here either | 10:49 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: yeah. | 10:49 |
| dirk | yeah, the more I think about the more I'm not happy about having divergent mins allowed :) | 10:49 |
| * dirk is still sceptical about that | 10:49 | |
| prometheanfire | they'd only be allowed for things following UC | 10:50 |
| prometheanfire | so we are still in lockstep there | 10:50 |
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| tonyb | dirk: great! we can talk it through at the PTG (perhaps over beer) the more angles we look at it from the better | 10:50 |
| prometheanfire | projects would just be allowed to have a minimum that is higher than the one defined in gr | 10:51 |
| prometheanfire | ya, over beer would be good :D | 10:51 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: there would be no minimum in g-r | 10:52 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: not global min vs project min? | 10:52 |
| prometheanfire | that's new to me | 10:52 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: but the aim was to allow projects to set a lower minimum than the one we currently have in g-r | 10:52 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: no projects would be the sole custodian of the minimums | 10:53 |
| prometheanfire | ah, suppose that's still doable | 10:53 |
| prometheanfire | given uc is still the sync point between projects | 10:53 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: the requirements team would need to write tools to allow projects to test the minimum | 10:54 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 10:54 |
| prometheanfire | we need to test the mins as it is | 10:54 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah u-c would be the only sync point | 10:54 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah originally I was treating them as seperate but I was convinced that we could just merge the goals and get there quicker | 10:55 |
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| prometheanfire | my only worry is that all projects would need to be ready at the same time for it | 10:56 |
| prometheanfire | though I guess they could be set, one by one, to ignore gr updates | 10:56 |
| prometheanfire | once they do it themselves | 10:56 |
| prometheanfire | anyway | 10:56 |
| prometheanfire | impl details to be discussed in a couple weeks :D | 10:56 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: no I think if we're careful it'll "just work" | 10:56 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: we'd disbale the updates | 10:57 |
| tonyb | Yeah clearly we need to discuss the plan with more of us in the room | 10:57 |
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| prometheanfire | we are at time, did we have anything else? | 10:57 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: we have 3mins ;P | 10:58 |
| prometheanfire | right, server irssi is on is ahead :| | 10:58 |
| tonyb | hehe | 10:58 |
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| tonyb | anyway I think we're done | 10:59 |
| tonyb | I'm going to be around for a bit more so we can carry on in -requirements | 10:59 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 10:59:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-02-01-10.00.html | 10:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-02-01-10.00.txt | 10:59 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 13:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 13:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 13:00 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 13:00 |
| chrisspencer | o/ | 13:00 |
| sballe_ | o/ | 13:00 |
| hidekazu_ | hello | 13:00 |
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| acabot | I hope this new time is good for everyone :-) | 13:00 |
| acabot | hidekazu : whats your local time ? | 13:01 |
| hidekazu_ | i am sleepy ;) | 13:01 |
| acabot | :-D | 13:01 |
| hidekazu_ | 10 pm in japna | 13:01 |
| hidekazu_ | japan | 13:01 |
| acabot | thanks for joining us anyway | 13:01 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#02.2F01.2F2016 | 13:01 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 13:01 |
| acabot | last meeting before Watcher 1.0.0 ! | 13:01 |
| sballe_ | +2 | 13:02 |
| acabot | that should be released tomorrow ! | 13:02 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 13:02 |
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| sballe_ | hidekazu_: +2 | 13:02 |
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| acabot | #info alexchadin will be appointed as our new PTL soon | 13:02 |
| acabot | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 13:02 |
| sballe_ | congrats! alexchadin | 13:02 |
| acabot | congrats alex ! | 13:02 |
| vincentfrancoise | +2 | 13:03 |
| alexchadin | thank you all! | 13:03 |
| pshedimb | Congrats Alex | 13:03 |
| hidekazu_ | +1 | 13:03 |
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| acabot | election should start tomorrow so I suppose it will become official by the end of this week | 13:03 |
| sballe_ | we don;t have to vote rigth/ | 13:03 |
| acabot | yes | 13:03 |
| dtardivel | hi | 13:04 |
| sballe_ | ok just making sure | 13:04 |
| sballe_ | hi dtardivel | 13:04 |
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| acabot | as alexchadin will not attend the PTG, I will continue leading the project until Atlanta | 13:04 |
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| sballe_ | acabot: make sense thx for doing this | 13:04 |
| alexchadin | acabot: it is great | 13:04 |
| hidekazu_ | acabot: i can meet you! | 13:04 |
| acabot | and we will have a couple of f2f hangouts sessions to deal with the release process | 13:04 |
| alexchadin | BTW, I will be available online | 13:05 |
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| alexchadin | Hope to meet you at Summit | 13:05 |
| sballe_ | I can be available for some of the F2F if it make sense | 13:05 |
| sballe_ | I will be ta the summit | 13:05 |
| acabot | I will try to move all "release related" subjects in the morning so that alexchadin can join us | 13:05 |
| sballe_ | +2 | 13:05 |
| acabot | #info PTG is in 3 weeks, a dedicated etherpad is now open, please submit topics that you want to discuss | 13:06 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-watcher-ptg | 13:06 |
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| acabot | I will start building the agenda by our next meeting so please add your contributions now | 13:06 |
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| acabot | #info Call for presentations for Boston summit will close next Monday; our dedicated etherpad already has 4 talks suggested (1 has already been submitted). Please review them by EOW and add a "submitter" for each proposal. | 13:07 |
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| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Watcher_abstracts_boston2017 | 13:07 |
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| acabot | thanks for all these contributions | 13:07 |
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| acabot | I hoped to have at least 4 talks to submit | 13:07 |
| acabot | sballe_ : is the 1st one submitted already ? | 13:07 |
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| sballe_ | yes | 13:08 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: I've added myself to Plans for P&Q Releases | 13:08 |
| acabot | could you please add the category and technical level in the etherpad ? | 13:08 |
| sballe_ | https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/manage/17598/summary | 13:08 |
| acabot | alexchadin : thx in this case I will remove myself for now | 13:08 |
| sballe_ | will do | 13:08 |
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| acabot | sballe : "You can't edit this presentation" | 13:09 |
| acabot | sballe_ : :-) | 13:09 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: great I thought you should be on it | 13:09 |
| acabot | sballe_ : I want to avoid having all our talks in the same category | 13:09 |
| acabot | last time in Barcelona it was not really successful ;-) | 13:10 |
| sballe_ | yeah I have it in OPs tools and I am thinking it might be a use case | 13:10 |
| sballe_ | any thought on thta | 13:10 |
| acabot | could you please also add a "submiter" to each talk ? | 13:10 |
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| hidekazu_ | acabot: main speaker? | 13:11 |
| acabot | alexchadin : could you submit plans for P&Q ? | 13:11 |
| sballe_ | acabot | 13:11 |
| sballe_ | done | 13:11 |
| acabot | hidekazu_ : I mean the person who submit the talk in https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 13:11 |
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| hidekazu_ | acabot: ok | 13:11 |
| acabot | hidekazu_ : could you submit the 4st one ? | 13:12 |
| alexchadin | acabot: I got "You can't edit this presentation" | 13:12 |
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| hidekazu_ | acabot: my customer kentaro will do. | 13:12 |
| acabot | hidekazu_ : ok | 13:13 |
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| acabot | #action alexchadin submit talk Watcher, the Infrastructure Optimization service for OpenStack: Plans for the P&Q-releases by sunday EOD | 13:13 |
| acabot | #action yumeng submit talk Help telecom operators save energy and reduce cost of data center with Openstack Watcher by Sunday EOD | 13:13 |
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| acabot | #action hidekazu_ ask kentaro to submit Software-Defined Migration: How to migrate bunch of VMs and Volumes within a limited time frame? by Sunday EOD | 13:14 |
| hidekazu_ | if ptl join my session, more attractive :) | 13:14 |
| sballe_ | I was super happy to see the new extra talks by hidekazu and yumeng | 13:14 |
| sballe_ | cool usecases! | 13:15 |
| acabot | #action acabot look at categories to find the best possible category for each talk | 13:15 |
| acabot | alexchadin : do you want to join hidekazu_ talk ? | 13:15 |
| sballe_ | acabot: please check mine too. I am not sure I am in the rigth categories | 13:15 |
| acabot | sballe_ : ok | 13:15 |
| acabot | I will add a suggested category for each talk | 13:15 |
| alexchadin | acabot: hidekazu_ I will discuss it with you this week | 13:16 |
| acabot | #info Watcher has been released in v0.34 | 13:16 |
| acabot | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/#ocata-python-watcher | 13:16 |
| acabot | #info Watcher Dashboard has been released in v0.8 | 13:16 |
| acabot | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/#ocata-watcher-dashboard | 13:16 |
| acabot | we will release everything in 1.0.0 this week | 13:16 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 13:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 13:16 | |
| acabot | Watcher specs | 13:17 |
| acabot | Specs for action-plan-versioned-notifications-api needs final reviews from core | 13:17 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420576/ | 13:17 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 13:17 |
| acabot | we'd like to have this feature merged before tomorrow | 13:17 |
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| acabot | all code has been written by vincentfrancoise | 13:17 |
| sballe_ | I will review right now (actually after the meeting ;) ) | 13:18 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ acabot hvprash review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420576/ | 13:18 |
| acabot | Define grammar for workload characterization needs a new PS answering previous comments | 13:18 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/19 | 13:18 |
| acabot | #action hvprash add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/19 | 13:18 |
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| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: thx | 13:18 |
| acabot | this BP has been moved to Pike cycle | 13:18 |
| acabot | Support Description For Dynamic Action needs a new PS | 13:19 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 13:19 |
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| acabot | is hanrong here ? | 13:19 |
| acabot | we are still looking for a status on this feature (moved to Pike as well) | 13:19 |
| acabot | #action hanrong add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 13:19 |
| acabot | Noisy Neighbor Strategy has still work in progress | 13:19 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:20 |
| sballe_ | working on it | 13:20 |
| pshedimb | acabot, working on it | 13:20 |
| sballe_ | lol | 13:20 |
| pshedimb | haha | 13:20 |
| acabot | pshedimb : ok great ! | 13:20 |
| acabot | I already moved it to pike but we will have to do it before Boston as you plan to demonstrate it :-D | 13:20 |
| sballe_ | we have a watcher-dashboard spec too | 13:21 |
| acabot | #action pshedimb add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 13:21 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: It's very interesting strategy | 13:21 |
| pshedimb | thank you alexchadin | 13:21 |
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| acabot | sballe_ : yes I saw that, lets discuss it later | 13:21 |
| pshedimb | me and sballe_ working on algo | 13:21 |
| acabot | Audit tag in VM Metadata needs reviews | 13:21 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 13:21 |
| acabot | jwcroppe added a couple of comments that needs to be answered | 13:22 |
| sballe_ | I will review right after the meeting because I know this crucial to Walmat making progress | 13:22 |
| acabot | #action hvprash add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 13:22 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 13:22 |
| acabot | Spec for noisy-neighbor-dashboard needs reviews | 13:22 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/ | 13:22 |
| sballe_ | yes please | 13:22 |
| acabot | thx for submitting a spec for watcher-dashboard (its not so common) :-) | 13:23 |
| sballe_ | We have realized that sometimes looking at the metrics give people a hint of what is going on so this is super impoartant | 13:23 |
| sballe_ | this helps understand the NN algorithm | 13:23 |
| acabot | well yes the problem is that there is currently no metrics view in Watcher dashboard | 13:23 |
| pshedimb | +2 | 13:23 |
| acabot | we rely on Monasca dashboard for that | 13:24 |
| sballe_ | I think it is important to have it in wathcer and not worry where the metrics come from | 13:24 |
| pshedimb | acabot, we can introduce a tab for live metrics in watcher dashboard right? | 13:24 |
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| pshedimb | That way it is wasier to see the progress watcher makes | 13:25 |
| pshedimb | easier* | 13:25 |
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| acabot | pshedimb : of course we can, the question is, who is the most legitimate to do that (Watcher or Monasca ?) | 13:25 |
| alexchadin | pshedimb: you mean something like metrics changelog? | 13:25 |
| vincentfrancoise | pshedimb: I just wonder how you plan on connecting the metrics then | 13:25 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: +1 | 13:25 |
| pshedimb | alexchadin, vincentfrancoise I mean something that displays the meters collected from ceilo in terms of graphical plots | 13:26 |
| sballe_ | the issue I have with Monasca is hwta if people not using Monasca ? | 13:26 |
| acabot | I think there are plenty of tools available to see live metrics so I'm not sure that building our own inside Watcher creates value | 13:26 |
| dtardivel | we already have dasboard with ceilometer/Monasca horizon plugin | 13:26 |
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| alexchadin | We have already discussed it in Barcelona | 13:27 |
| pshedimb | okay. got it. makes sense | 13:27 |
| acabot | sballe_ : people usually use other off-the-shelf solutions so they already have live metrics dashboards | 13:27 |
| dtardivel | Monasca plugin allows us to open a grafana tab, with a pre configured settings, to see live metrics collected from our cluster. | 13:27 |
| sballe_ | I guess we can just write our own and keep it in house | 13:28 |
| alexchadin | The question is which way to use to demonstrate it | 13:28 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: I agree | 13:28 |
| sballe_ | we want to show different plots and have it be synchornized with the stratgey in Watcher | 13:28 |
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| acabot | I would suggest to add it to the topics list for the PTG, it will be easier in f2f ;-) | 13:28 |
| acabot | #action acabot add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/ in the PTG topics list | 13:29 |
| sballe_ | make sense both chrisspencer and pshedimb will be there | 13:29 |
| acabot | moving to Watcher | 13:29 |
| pshedimb | okay. will do :) | 13:29 |
| chrisspencer | +1 I will add | 13:29 |
| acabot | be my guest ;-) | 13:29 |
| acabot | check the state of action plan needs to be fixed to be part of Ocata release | 13:29 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 13:30 |
| acabot | is licanwei here ? | 13:30 |
| acabot | we are waiting for a patch for 1 week now, I'm sorry but I will have to move to Pike | 13:30 |
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| acabot | #action acabot move https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/stale-action-plan to Pike cycle | 13:31 |
| acabot | action-plan-versioned-notifications-api needs final reviews from core to be merged before the release | 13:31 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/action-plan-versioned-notifications-api | 13:31 |
| acabot | dtardivel alexchadin : could you review it and test it by tomorrow ? | 13:31 |
| dtardivel | yep | 13:32 |
| alexchadin | since I'm working on action notifications add me as reviewer | 13:32 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel alexchadin review & merge https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/action-plan-versioned-notifications-api | 13:32 |
| acabot | Add first alembic version for db migration needs final review from core | 13:32 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419031/ | 13:32 |
| alexchadin | me too | 13:32 |
| acabot | alexchadin vincentfrancoise : could you review and test it ? | 13:32 |
| acabot | alexchadin : thx | 13:32 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I gave it a -1 | 13:33 |
| dtardivel | I will push a new patch this afternoon | 13:33 |
| dtardivel | I'm working on it | 13:33 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419031/ as soon as dtardivel submited a patch | 13:33 |
| acabot | Use RPC cast() to be asynchronous needs a new PS | 13:33 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: will do | 13:33 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421268/ | 13:33 |
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| acabot | is this one mandatory for Ocata ? | 13:34 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: just a nice to have | 13:34 |
| acabot | ok | 13:34 |
| acabot | workload-balance-tempest needs reviews | 13:34 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:detached/workload-balance-tempest | 13:34 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise : nice to have too ? | 13:35 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: yup | 13:35 |
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| acabot | ok anyone wants to review these 2 patches ? | 13:35 |
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| alexchadin | will take RPC | 13:36 |
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| acabot | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421268/ | 13:36 |
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| acabot | Adding additional details to notification logs needs a status | 13:36 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422295/ | 13:36 |
| acabot | chrispencer : anything wrong with the gate | 13:36 |
| acabot | ? | 13:37 |
| pshedimb | acabot, I think the master was failing tox tests | 13:37 |
| acabot | ERROR: InvocationError: '/opt/stack/new/tempest/.tox/all-plugin/bin/tempest run --regex watcher_tempest_plugin --concurrency=4' | 13:38 |
| chrisspencer | acabot: still working on getting the logs modified. it wasn't working the last I checked. I may need to sync up with vincentfrancoise to see what I might be missing | 13:38 |
| acabot | strange | 13:38 |
| acabot | chrisspencer : ok I think vincentfrancoise will be a bit overloaded until the release | 13:39 |
| chrisspencer | +1 | 13:39 |
| acabot | chrisspencer : I will move this bug to Pike | 13:39 |
| acabot | chrisspencer : I hope it's fine for you | 13:39 |
| vincentfrancoise | chrisspencer: made a quick comment that may solve the problem | 13:39 |
| chrisspencer | acabot: that's fine | 13:39 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 13:40 |
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| chrisspencer | will try, thanks vincentfrancoise | 13:40 |
| acabot | #info Watcher O3-rc1 will be release tomorrow and Ocata stable branch will be created | 13:40 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-rc1 | 13:40 |
| acabot | as soon as the branch will be created, master will be dedicated to Pike cycle | 13:40 |
| acabot | and now the branch creation is automated thx to the release team | 13:41 |
| acabot | FYI, we have completed 13 BPs in this cycle è | 13:42 |
| acabot | which is very good and quite similar as the Newton cycle | 13:42 |
| acabot | so congrats to every contributor ! | 13:42 |
| vincentfrancoise | +2 | 13:43 |
| alexchadin | my congratulations! | 13:43 |
| sballe_ | acabot: I migth add the finerprinting stuff from ananth and mrittika. It looks like I will take this over | 13:43 |
| acabot | sballe_ : ;-) | 13:43 |
| sballe_ | I know lol | 13:44 |
| acabot | we should also now that thanks to vincentfrancoise holidays, dtardivel is now our 1st contributor !! http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/watcher/180 | 13:44 |
| sballe_ | +2 | 13:44 |
| vincentfrancoise | dtardivel: nice one! | 13:44 |
| pshedimb | great job :) | 13:45 |
| dtardivel | I will take a snapshot quickly :) | 13:45 |
| acabot | pshedimb : you are our 6th contributor, I hope you will be able to join the top 5 in the coming weeks ! | 13:45 |
| hidekazu_ | cool | 13:45 |
| acabot | #info we will also release watcher-dashboard v1.0 tomorrow | 13:46 |
| sballe_ | pshedimb: +2 | 13:46 |
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| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 13:46 |
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| pshedimb | acabot, sure. looking forward to it. :) | 13:46 |
| acabot | 15 minutes left for open discussions | 13:46 |
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| acabot | I have a subject I forgot to mention | 13:47 |
| acabot | I have been contacted by the Documentation team | 13:47 |
| acabot | to know whats going on regarding doc on Watcher | 13:47 |
| acabot | did we do anything special regarding the doc team ? | 13:47 |
| acabot | I planned to meet in Atlanta to check that we are compliant with doc requirements | 13:48 |
| alexchadin | acabot: You talk about Install Docs? | 13:48 |
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| acabot | I dont really know what the openstack doc team is doing :-) | 13:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | ahaha | 13:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | me neither | 13:49 |
| alexchadin | it would be great to have Watcher install docs in Installation Tutorials And Guides | 13:49 |
| hidekazu_ | +1 | 13:49 |
| acabot | they contacted me because I'm here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation | 13:50 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 13:50 |
| acabot | "by default" :-) | 13:50 |
| acabot | maybe I should put alex ;-) | 13:50 |
| pshedimb | The new Docs PTL is part of our OSIC team here in San Antonio ;) | 13:50 |
| acabot | pshedimb : good to know | 13:51 |
| acabot | I will try to join there weekly meeting and see if we have anything to do | 13:51 |
| pshedimb | So I can push for something here if we need any help with docs. :) | 13:51 |
| sballe_ | +2 | 13:52 |
| acabot | #action acabot join docs meeting and ask to have Watcher install docs in Installation Tutorials And Guides | 13:52 |
| alexchadin | oh | 13:52 |
| acabot | alexchadin : do you have a link for these turorials ? | 13:52 |
| alexchadin | acabot: http://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/newton/ | 13:52 |
| dtardivel | acabot: Lana Brindley seems to be the contact for installation guides | 13:53 |
| alexchadin | As I know, OpenStack have Translation Team | 13:53 |
| alexchadin | What do they do? | 13:53 |
| acabot | alexchadin : translation I guess :-D | 13:53 |
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| alexchadin | translation for what? | 13:54 |
| vincentfrancoise | seems like the projects that are listed are only the ones we also see in https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ | 13:54 |
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| alexchadin | Documentation? | 13:54 |
| hidekazu_ | i18n is another team. | 13:54 |
| acabot | alexchadin : yes these assist project with doc translation | 13:54 |
| hidekazu_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#I18n | 13:55 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise : there is a dicussion about project navigator here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110193.html | 13:55 |
| acabot | we should probably look a it closely if we want Watcher to be part of it | 13:55 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: thx for the link | 13:57 |
| alexchadin | acabot: seems that we need to meet some mature indicators to be placed there | 13:58 |
| acabot | yes and it comes from tags here https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/watcher.html | 13:59 |
| acabot | I will look at it | 13:59 |
| vincentfrancoise | we just hit 1.0.0 so "standard deprecation" has yet to be put in place | 13:59 |
| acabot | yes | 13:59 |
| acabot | time is over | 13:59 |
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| acabot | thank you all | 13:59 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 13:59 |
| acabot | have a good day/night | 14:00 |
| sballe_ | bye | 14:00 |
| hidekazu_ | bye | 14:00 |
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| acabot | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 14:00:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-02-01-13.00.html | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 14:00:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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| pshedimb | bye | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni | here is the agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2017-02-01_1400_UTC | 14:01 |
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| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 14:58:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi :) | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 15:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | We're at RC1 | 15:01 |
| haleyb | Any bugs or rfes need to be on https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-rc1 | 15:02 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks for the link | 15:02 |
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| haleyb | So if anyone has something they feel needs in, ping me or another core to get approval. it will be harder the longer we wait | 15:03 |
| haleyb | Maybe during the bugs topic we can go through the list of items in the milestone that need attention | 15:04 |
| Swami | haleyb: I did not see this bug in the list, but it is ready to merge. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1571676 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571676 in neutron "After binding a floating IP to VM, the static route can't work in DVR." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:04 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/ is the review ? | 15:05 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:05 |
| haleyb | let me review again and ping armando | 15:06 |
| Swami | ok | 15:07 |
| haleyb | And I assume anyone that is going to the PTG has signed-up and booked travel? | 15:07 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes I will be attending and I am set to travel. | 15:07 |
| haleyb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike is the etherpad, please add (or add to) any topics there | 15:07 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks will do. | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | Anything else? I'm probably forgetting something myself... | 15:08 |
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| Swami | haleyb: nothing else that I knew off. | 15:09 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:09 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:09 |
| Swami | This week we had one new bug that needs triage. | 15:09 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657981 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657981 in neutron "FloatingIPs not reachable after restart of compute node (DVR)" [Undecided,New] | 15:10 |
| haleyb | funny, didn't see taht last night when i looked | 15:10 |
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| Swami | haleyb: may be got filed later. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | january 20 | 15:11 |
| haleyb | either way... | 15:11 |
| Swami | was it filed on January 20th, may be it got tagged to DVR just recently. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | yes, one hour ago | 15:12 |
| Swami | that's what i thought. | 15:12 |
| haleyb | i see it's a reboot, with a lot or ERRORs in the log | 15:12 |
| Swami | I need to triage it. I will test it and see if I can reproduce the problem. This is reported in Newton. | 15:13 |
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| haleyb | so possible the l2 agent isn't running and plug()s haven't happened? | 15:13 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes that is my doubt too. | 15:13 |
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| Swami | haleyb: should he starting the l2 agent manually to do the plug or the port that is plugged already should not be dropped after a reboot. | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | Swami: could be changes in ocata will fix this ? at least i'm thinking of the dvr fip code we changed recently | 15:15 |
| Swami | s/starting/start | 15:15 |
| haleyb | Swami: i'm just thinking there's a specific order to start agents, if the l2 agent isn't running completely will starting l3 succeed? | 15:16 |
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| Swami | haleyb: he has mentioned that it after a manual start it works. | 15:16 |
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| haleyb | Swami: ok, well i guess trying to reproduce is the first step | 15:17 |
| Swami | haleyb: So if the namespaces and the port plugging does not change on a reboot then the floating ip should work on a restart. | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: will try to test it and update the bug with my findings. | 15:18 |
| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:18 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1658060 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658060 in neutron "FirewallNotFound exceptions when deleting the firewall in FWaaS-DVR" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yaohua Yan (sleepdream) | 15:18 |
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| Swami | I have not triaged it yet. Will see if I can reproduce this as well. | 15:19 |
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| Swami | I don't think there is anything else to discuss with this bug. | 15:20 |
| haleyb | ok | 15:20 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1647432 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1647432 in neutron "Multiple SIGHUPs to keepalived might trigger re-election" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz) | 15:20 |
| Swami | The patch for this bug is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407099/ ( needs review) | 15:21 |
| Swami | I see some jenkins failure on this patch. May be I will ping jschwarz on this. | 15:22 |
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| haleyb | i think he's getting closer, but still has -1 from jakub | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok thanks | 15:22 |
| Swami | The next one is the #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644231 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644231 in neutron "fip router config is not created if the vm ports attached to FIPs have no device_owner" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: you already have a patch and probably requires another +2 on that. | 15:23 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425919/ | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | Swami: yes, let me ping someone to take aloko | 15:23 |
| haleyb | a look | 15:24 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1629539 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629539 in neutron "Broken distributed virtual router w/ lbaas v1" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:24 |
| Swami | This one also need to be triaged, this has been reported against mitaka. If I get some time I will triage both the Firewall and the lbaas services. | 15:25 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1571676 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571676 in neutron "After binding a floating IP to VM, the static route can't work in DVR." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:25 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/ ( needs review) This is the one that we can target for rc1 if possible. | 15:26 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1541406 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541406 in neutron "IPv6 prefix delegation does not work with DVR" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:27 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277657/ ( needs review) I did see some jenkins failure on this patch. | 15:27 |
| haleyb | I need to look at failures, hoping a rebase last night would have helped | 15:27 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok thanks | 15:28 |
| Swami | That's all I had for bugs today. | 15:28 |
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| Swami | Regarding this RFE. | 15:28 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1577488 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577488 in neutron "[RFE]"Fast exit" for compute node egress flows when using DVR" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:29 |
| Swami | I don't think right now it is possible to merge this into ocata. | 15:29 |
| Swami | It is too late and we have not obtained any FFE for this feature. | 15:30 |
| haleyb | ok, too bad since those reviews have been around a while, we should push for P1 when it opens so we don't slip again | 15:30 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Still these patches can be backported to ocata if we can push it in early in P1. | 15:31 |
| Swami | That's all I had for the bugs today. | 15:32 |
| haleyb | thanks Swami | 15:32 |
| haleyb | any other bugs? HA? jschwarz ? | 15:33 |
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| Swami | nothing else. | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | #topic Gate | 15:34 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410973/ | 15:34 |
| Swami | I did see a -1 on this patch, for the DVR multinode voting. | 15:35 |
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| haleyb | yes, that needs an update. i don't think getting this voting at the very end of Ocata will happen, will get it ready and target for Pike | 15:35 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok, makes sense | 15:36 |
| haleyb | there have been enough other failures we don't need to introduce more | 15:36 |
| Swami | haleyb: yep | 15:36 |
| Swami | Is there any other failures still haunting the gate with respect to DVR. | 15:38 |
| haleyb | i do see the regular dvr dsvm job is ~15% now, so i will try and figure out what is going on tehre | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | of course grafana doesn't tell whether that's voting, but it's in the gate | 15:38 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:39 |
| haleyb | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 15:39 |
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| haleyb | every time we get those down they mysteriously creep back up | 15:39 |
| haleyb | #topic Stable | 15:40 |
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| haleyb | the only dvr review i see in stable is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421989/ | 15:41 |
| haleyb | what was approved but hasn't moved at all, i'll check it out | 15:41 |
| haleyb | are there any others in flight? | 15:41 |
| Swami | haleyb: there is a dependency for that patch | 15:41 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421983/ | 15:41 |
| Swami | haleyb: may be you might have missed it. | 15:42 |
| haleyb | yes, and that would explain why it is stuck | 15:42 |
| haleyb | i'll take a look at that | 15:42 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok thanks | 15:43 |
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| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:43 |
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| haleyb | anyone have something to discuss? | 15:44 |
| Swami | haleyb: I don't have any topic today for discussion. | 15:44 |
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| haleyb | maybe it will be a shorter meeting | 15:45 |
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| Swami | haleyb: sure we will get back 15min. | 15:46 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks Swami, have a good day | 15:46 |
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| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-02-01-15.00.html | 15:46 |
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| Swami_ | bye | 15:48 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
| dasanind | hi | 16:01 |
| rkukura | hi dasanind | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Anyone else here for ML2 today? | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Hi | 16:02 |
| rkukura | looks like just me, dasanind, and Sukhdev | 16:03 |
| rkukura | I didn’t get a chance to do the agenda | 16:03 |
| rkukura | anything we need to cover today? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | I did not prepare the agenda and thought we will go with whatever comes up | 16:03 |
| dasanind | The db patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404293/ for the live migration got merged :) | 16:03 |
| rkukura | If anyone wants to discuss anything, I’ll start the meeting | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | dasanind : right | 16:04 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 16:04:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
| rkukura | dasanind, want to repeat that for the log? | 16:04 |
| dasanind | The db patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404293/ for the live migration got merged :) | 16:04 |
| rkukura | dasanind: nice work! | 16:04 |
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| dasanind | rkukura: thank you | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | Here is the agenda from last week - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_January_25.2C_2017 | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | one patch merged - the other one is not ready yet | 16:05 |
| dasanind | rkukura: and Sukhdev thank you for the help and reviews on the patch | 16:05 |
| dasanind | I am working on the extension patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251 | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | dasanind : no worries - I will review the other one as well | 16:06 |
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| dasanind | As I am introducing a new extension I am facing some errors. Debugging them hopefully will have a fix today | 16:07 |
| dasanind | After that my next step is to test the api's | 16:08 |
| dasanind | Do you all think that I should a start an api-ref patch in parallel so that the documentation does not fall through the cracks? | 16:08 |
| rkukura | dasanind: probably makes sense, and may help with review | 16:09 |
| rkukura | will there be a 3rd patch that adds this to ML2? | 16:09 |
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| dasanind | rkukura: I think it's better to separate that in the 3rd patch so that it's easy to review them | 16:10 |
| rkukura | dasanind: agreed, just wanted to confirm that a 3rd code patch was planned for that | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | dasanind : I just looked through the patch - it looks good to me | 16:12 |
| dasanind | rkukura: but I will need some information on how to add this to ML2. If you can explain that it will be helpful. | 16:12 |
| dasanind | Sukhdev: thank you | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | dasanind: I expect you will need to mix in a base class to the ML2 plugin class, add this extension to its supported extensions list, and make whatever changes are needed to ML2’s port binding implementation, etc. | 16:15 |
| dasanind | rkukura: makes sense | 16:15 |
| rkukura | I have not been tracking the spec or patches as closely as I’d like, so I don’t have anything more concrete. But I will try to get back up to speed on them so I can provide more useful advice | 16:16 |
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| dasanind | ok | 16:16 |
| rkukura | thanks dasanind! | 16:17 |
| rkukura | anything else on these patches today? | 16:17 |
| dasanind | But the existing port binding implementation should remain unchanged correct? | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | dasanind : correct | 16:17 |
| dasanind | Sukhdev: ok | 16:17 |
| rkukura | dasanind: Is that correct? Might be, but I thought some integration would be needed. | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | I’m not talking about the portbinding extension itself, but about the ML2 plugin’s logic that binds ports. | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | I thought that would need to change to allow the new binding to be created while the old one still exists, etc. | 16:19 |
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| dasanind | I have to look into the existing logic in little more detail | 16:20 |
| dasanind | but if we change the implementation then will not affect the users who are not using the new apis? | 16:21 |
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| rkukura | dasanind: you do need to avoid breaking existing functionality | 16:24 |
| dasanind | My understanding is the integration should be done in a way that the existing portbinding methodology works in addition to the new methodology. | 16:24 |
| dasanind | rkukura: thats what I understood | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | right - we need to keep it backward compatible | 16:25 |
| rkukura | There needs to be some code somewhere that calls the ML2 mechanism drivers to bind the port and manages the state | 16:25 |
| rkukura | That code needs to support both the old and new APIs for accessing that binding state | 16:25 |
| rkukura | hopefully there is a plan that addresses that | 16:26 |
| dasanind | rkukura: do you mean there is already existing code that manages the state or we have to add new logic for that | 16:27 |
| rkukura | dasanind: There is existing code in the ML2 plugin that binds ports. I’d assume this code needs to be modified, but maybe not. | 16:28 |
| rkukura | dasanind: I need to take a closer look at the spec and existing patches - I have not been tracking those as closely as I’d like, so I may be missing something entirely here. | 16:30 |
| dasanind | rkukura: sounds good. I will dig in through the code to get a better idea. | 16:30 |
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| rkukura | dasanind: I hope to be much better prepared for this discussion by next week ;) | 16:31 |
| dasanind | rkukura: :) | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | dasanind : the new code as-is looks good, however, the plumbing part to fit it in with the older one needs to be worked out clearly - | 16:31 |
| rkukura | anything else on the live migration work? | 16:31 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: exactly | 16:32 |
| dasanind | Sukhdev: correct. That part needs to planned properly | 16:32 |
| dasanind | That's all for the live migration work | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | dasanind : andreas_s has done some ground work on that - you may want to ping him as well | 16:32 |
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| dasanind | Sukhdev: sure will do that | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | OK, is ther anything else to discuss today? | 16:34 |
| dasanind | nothing else from my side | 16:34 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev? Anyone else? | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | not really | 16:34 |
| rkukura | OK, thanks! | 16:35 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 16:35:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-02-01-16.04.html | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-02-01-16.04.log.html | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | thanks, rkukura | 16:35 |
| dasanind | Thank you | 16:35 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 16:59:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 16:59 |
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| Kiall | o/ | 16:59 |
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| sonuk | o/ | 16:59 |
| mugsie | timsim: ping | 17:00 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | holy crap it's a Kiall siting | 17:00 |
| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | ;) | 17:00 |
| mugsie | So RC1 is tomorrow | 17:00 |
| timsim | sighting | 17:00 |
| mugsie | and I will be creating the ocata branch then | 17:00 |
| mugsie | so, please have a look at outstanding patches | 17:01 |
| mugsie | and get stuff merged :) | 17:01 |
| timsim | It's kind of come together well these last couple days. | 17:01 |
| mugsie | I have a bit of bug bash day yesterday, so the was a lot to merge | 17:01 |
| mugsie | and I cleaned up launchpad + gerrit | 17:01 |
| mugsie | (appolgies to anyone I offended by abandoning patches / bugs) | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | mugsie look at gate failures in stable/newton + pgSQL | 17:02 |
| mugsie | mugsie backport 184544e Use the oslo_utils address parser | 17:02 |
| mugsie | both done | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| timsim | mugsie: There's this old thing https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1627941 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627941 in Designate "Zone transfer accept is forbidden for the non admin users " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:03 |
| timsim | and this https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1660942 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660942 in Designate "There is no "test_recordset.py" at master branch for functionaltests" [Undecided,New] | 17:03 |
| mugsie | I was trying to recreate it yestday | 17:03 |
| mugsie | the bug fix for ^ is to delete the page | 17:03 |
| Kiall | yea, it's replaced by http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/tempest.html | 17:04 |
| timsim | So someone just needs to kill http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/functional-tests.html | 17:04 |
| mugsie | so, triaged, taggged with "docs" and "low hanging fruit" and a direction to delete the page | 17:04 |
| mugsie | someone can get a free ticket that way :) | 17:04 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:04 |
| mugsie | and maybe not get -2'd for correcting the akamai driver | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | that it? | 17:05 |
| timsim | Alright, that's all of them | 17:05 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:05 |
| mugsie | #topic Back Port Triage | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: over to you | 17:06 |
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| * Kiall doesn't have them handy -_- | 17:06 | |
| mugsie | :) | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/597242/ | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | dc34ed4 Fix noop metrics timed decorator | 17:08 |
| mugsie | c135dc7 Validate NS records on a pool during an update ? | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | yea, both seem like issues BP worthy | 17:09 |
| Kiall | f6ba5c2 Use exit code 1 for failed designate-manage pool commands <-- might be considered an "API" change though | 17:09 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:09 |
| timsim | I'd say all three of those | 17:09 |
| timsim | That aint no API | 17:09 |
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| timsim | If it'd change anything it would be to expose failures in people's automation | 17:10 |
| mugsie | true | 17:10 |
| Kiall | yea, true... | 17:10 |
| mugsie | ah, go for it | 17:10 |
| mugsie | who wnats the honour? | 17:10 |
| timsim | I can do the pool commands one | 17:11 |
| mugsie | cool. I can take the other 2 | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #action timsim bp f6ba5c2 Use exit code 1 for failed designate-manage pool commands | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie bp NoOp + NS record patches | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | this should have been in announcements | 17:12 |
| mugsie | but | 17:12 |
| mugsie | #info all hail our new PTL - timsim | 17:12 |
| Kiall | \o/ | 17:12 |
| mugsie | congrats tim | 17:12 |
| timsim | Thanks :) | 17:13 |
| sonuk | congrats tim | 17:13 |
| timsim | We'll see how it goes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:13 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:13 |
| timsim | Don't anybody go running away now that they aren't PTL mugsie | 17:13 |
| mugsie | sonuk: I am not sure if we can get your backend merged in time for ocata - but I will review it today | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | it is a tight window | 17:14 |
| mugsie | timsim: me? run? | 17:14 |
| sonuk | <mugsie> ok sure. | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | timsim: can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422376/ as well ? | 17:15 |
| timsim | I have your phone number | 17:15 |
| timsim | sure | 17:15 |
| mugsie | damn | 17:15 |
| mugsie | OK, anyone have anything else? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | going once | 17:15 |
| mugsie | twice | 17:15 |
| mugsie | thrice | 17:15 |
| mugsie | .... gone | 17:15 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 17:16:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-02-01-16.59.html | 17:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-02-01-16.59.txt | 17:16 |
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| johnma | #startmeeting Trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 18:01:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnma. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| trevormc | o/ | 18:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
| johnma | Hello trevormc | 18:01 |
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| trevormc | hi johnma, is anyone else out there? I think its just us today. | 18:03 |
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| johnma | is there anybody else from the Trove team? It might be a quick meeting. Looks like many folks are travelling this week including amrith, peterstac, | 18:03 |
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| johnma | yeah might be the case, in which case this might be the shortest meeting :) | 18:04 |
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| johnma | courtesy ping to : peterstac slicknik dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik | 18:04 |
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| johnma | trevormc: is there anything in particular you were looking to discuss in today's meeting | 18:05 |
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| trevormc | yes one thing | 18:05 |
| trevormc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402780/ | 18:06 |
| johnma | I saw that one of the reviews you had for translations failed at the gate | 18:06 |
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| trevormc | Has failed gate verification three times | 18:06 |
| johnma | yes I saw that one | 18:06 |
| trevormc | I'm hoping it is not caused by my patch but at this point I don't know anymore | 18:06 |
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| trevormc | There is a polling timeout error that has been consistent across the three failed verifications | 18:07 |
| trevormc | the function wait_for_instance fails | 18:07 |
| johnma | I will try and see what I can find. There were some gate failures late last week that Amrith seemed to have fixed. | 18:07 |
| johnma | this week is RC1 deadline. Is this one marked a priority for rc1 | 18:08 |
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| johnma | anything else you have in the pipeline that requires reviews | 18:08 |
| trevormc | ummm nothing too important. I added a work around to trove stack for a devstack bug related to cinder lvm | 18:08 |
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| trevormc | I just thought it would good to bring up in case other people are facing the same issue | 18:09 |
| trevormc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427467/ | 18:09 |
| johnma | I saw that one also. | 18:09 |
| trevormc | other than that, nothing too important. | 18:10 |
| johnma | If there is a fix to the original devstack issue that you mentioned in the review comments, wont that fix our install problem as well | 18:10 |
| johnma | as opposed to adding another change in the trovestack layer | 18:10 |
| trevormc | The original fix does not work, I have already tried it. | 18:11 |
| johnma | I am wondering whether to wait for the devstack fix, if that is where the problem is | 18:11 |
| trevormc | It has two negative reviews as well | 18:11 |
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| trevormc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401265/ | 18:11 |
| johnma | yes thats true. But assuming they come up with the correct solution, isnt that the place where a fix should be made | 18:11 |
| johnma | t | 18:11 |
| trevormc | yes that would be proper | 18:12 |
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| johnma | right, which is what I was expecting. To me it looks like this is a devstack problem than a trovestack issue, so it needs to be fixed at that layer. In the mean time, those who are trying to use trovestack can use your fix as a workaround until the devstack issue gets resolved. Does that make sense? | 18:13 |
| trevormc | yes that was my intention | 18:13 |
| johnma | sounds good. Thanks trevormc, appreciate that | 18:14 |
| johnma | so that change is not to be reviewed/merged, I would assume. | 18:14 |
| trevormc | ehh take it or leave it, we can always add a comment saying remove this when the devstack bug is fixed | 18:15 |
| johnma | could you add a comment or edit the commit message to include that it is just a workaround and not to be merged. | 18:15 |
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| trevormc | yes I will | 18:15 |
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| johnma | thanks trevormc. appreciate it. Anything else you would like to bring up? If you have any other patches you would like to get reviewed, just bring it up in our regular channel or ping me | 18:16 |
| trevormc | no that is all, thanks | 18:16 |
| johnma | great, in that case, let's end the meeting. Anything else comes up, just ping me on IRC. You have a great rest of the day and thanks for joining. | 18:17 |
| johnma | #endmeeting | 18:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 18:18:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-02-01-18.01.html | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-02-01-18.01.txt | 18:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-02-01-18.01.log.html | 18:18 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 20:01:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:01 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Hi there | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Ocata-rc1 is this week. We are now in feature freeze. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I am waiting for the last review to land on the RH patch and then I will cut our stable/rc1 branches. | 20:02 |
| blogan | o/ | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | The process is a bit different this round, so octavia will have an RC1 release, but I don't expect we will have changes so it will probably be the same as the final 0.10.0 | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Any questions about where we are in the release process? | 20:03 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, may I ask a release related question? | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Yep, grin | 20:04 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, just re: tag number. I know it was discussed before (when you asked about what we think about the 0.10.0 number) but why in general we don't follow the other project tag numbers? | 20:04 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, no need to grin, a simple question :) | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | We do follow the standard format, but each project has it's own release number chain. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/index.html | 20:06 |
| johnsom | If you look at the newton release page, you will see most projects have a different version number chain | 20:06 |
| nmagnezi | oh, alright. yay for consistency in openstack projects | 20:06 |
| nmagnezi | that answers my question, thanks :) | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Sure, NP. | 20:07 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-pike | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Just a reminder, PTG is coming up. We have an etherpad up | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 20:08 |
| nmagnezi | ack, I cannot attend but ajo from my team will. | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Other than I think nova is broken on master right now.... | 20:08 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | Ok, I have been focused on release, planning, and helping out with the RH patch this last week. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | I'm taking a quick look at the py3x gates, but ran into this issue with nova so.... | 20:10 |
| johnsom | The py3x gates kind of look like the cirros instances aren't getting their ssh keys, but I'm not sure why yet. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Any other updates? | 20:11 |
| nmagnezi | strange.. how can this be reproduced in a local node? maybe I can also give it a shot | 20:11 |
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| johnsom | Well, the nova issue showed up after I did a git pull on devstack and run localrc with reclone=True. | 20:12 |
| johnsom | For the py3x issue, I added USE_PYTHON3=True to my localrc and stacked | 20:12 |
| nmagnezi | and after it is stacking (when they fix the nova issue) just run tempest? | 20:13 |
| johnsom | I just booted a cirros image | 20:13 |
| nmagnezi | actually, I will just boot an instance | 20:13 |
| johnsom | nova boot --key-name octavia_ssh_key --image cirros-0.3.3-x86_64-disk --flavor 1 --nic net-id=$TENANT_NET_1_ID webserver1 | 20:14 |
| nmagnezi | is it using nova metadata or config drive? | 20:14 |
| rm_work | urg IRC client just crashed, did I miss anything related to me? | 20:14 |
| johnsom | rm_work just nominating you to fix everything.... | 20:14 |
| johnsom | grin | 20:14 |
| rm_work | T_T | 20:14 |
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| nmagnezi | :D | 20:15 |
| perelman | Hi all | 20:15 |
| johnsom | we are in progress reports time | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I was just mentioning that nova seems broken on master right now and cirros isn't coming up with ssh keys when I stack with USE_PYTHON3=true in localrc | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Stuff I am looking into | 20:16 |
| perelman | Ok | 20:16 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, re python3, any bug / patch tracking this? So I can see tomorrow morning (my timezone) if it is still an issue | 20:17 |
| rm_work | the py3 is still nonvoting though so gates are fine right? | 20:17 |
| rm_work | so I can merge the RH Amps stuff? | 20:17 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi I am tracking out gate issues here: https://review.openstack.org/424890 | 20:17 |
| rm_work | I was about to +A | 20:17 |
| johnsom | I don't have them yet for nova, etc. | 20:18 |
| johnsom | rm_work yes | 20:18 |
| johnsom | I don't have bugs for nova yet, trying to track down specifics and launchpad was failing on me | 20:19 |
| johnsom | I will pick that up after the meeting. | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:19 |
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| johnsom | Other topics for today? | 20:19 |
| nmagnezi | not for me | 20:20 |
| perelman | I have updated our ether pad on Active-Active with new changes on gerrit | 20:20 |
| johnsom | perelman sounds good | 20:21 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:21 |
| perelman | Please if you have already time - anyone start giving us feedbacks. I want to start fixing things fast | 20:21 |
| perelman | Thanks! | 20:22 |
| perelman | By the way - what is the current state of the project. | 20:23 |
| perelman | Are we in freeze .? Or have we passed | 20:23 |
| johnsom | perelman I discussed that at the beginning. We are still in freeze, this is rc1/stable week | 20:24 |
| perelman | The release and start working on the next release? | 20:24 |
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| perelman | Ok. I am sorry I was late :( thanks | 20:24 |
| johnsom | We can probably open up early pike work towards the end of the week if we don't find bugs with rc1 | 20:24 |
| perelman | Ok. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Any other topics for today? | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks folks. Have a good week! | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 20:27:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-02-01-20.01.html | 20:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-02-01-20.01.txt | 20:27 |
| xgerman | 0/ | 20:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-02-01-20.01.log.html | 20:27 |
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