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| IgorYozhikov | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 13:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is IgorYozhikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof, aplanas | 13:00 |
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| toabctl | hi | 13:02 |
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| aplanas | hi | 13:02 |
| IgorYozhikov | #chair IgorYozhikov toabctl | 13:03 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov toabctl | 13:03 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's spend a couple of minutes on agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:04 |
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| jpena | o/ | 13:04 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, r u with us? | 13:05 |
| toabctl | let's start? | 13:08 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, yes, think so | 13:08 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic PTG status and questions | 13:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG status and questions (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:08 | |
| IgorYozhikov | I prepared a list of topics - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-atlanta-packaging-rpm | 13:08 |
| toabctl | dirk added also a topic | 13:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | I believe that it was already posted on openstack-rpm-packaging channel | 13:09 |
| toabctl | so what do you want to discuss here? | 13:10 |
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| IgorYozhikov | I saw yes, py3 support was partly discussed in Barcelona as I remember | 13:11 |
| toabctl | but without any conclusion, right? | 13:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | yep | 13:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | we agreed that eventually we as a project will do that | 13:12 |
| toabctl | but we need to figure out the details | 13:13 |
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| toabctl | anything else on this topic? | 13:14 |
| IgorYozhikov | sure, because of enabling py3 will extend amount of dependencies | 13:14 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, I want to clarify org questions related to PTG | 13:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, was in charge of preparation to PTG if I'm not mistaken | 13:16 |
| toabctl | what exactly? | 13:16 |
| IgorYozhikov | who is going | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | we have requested a room | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 13:17 |
| toabctl | me and dirk are going | 13:17 |
| toabctl | iirc number8p is also going | 13:17 |
| toabctl | number80, pardon | 13:17 |
| toabctl | not sure about the room | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | according to link above we have confirmed room for mon & tue | 13:18 |
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| toabctl | which link? | 13:19 |
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| IgorYozhikov | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | Event layout | 13:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | Here are the confirmed team rooms so far: | 13:19 |
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| toabctl | ok. got it | 13:20 |
| toabctl | I guess we will find each other there ?) | 13:20 |
| toabctl | and number80 seems to be absent currently... | 13:20 |
| IgorYozhikov | another question - we agreed on remote access to work sessions | 13:21 |
| toabctl | we did? | 13:21 |
| toabctl | how should that work? | 13:21 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, yes - a couple of times it was discussed before and after NY holidays | 13:22 |
| toabctl | we are just 3 people afaics and I guess we are not working on packaging the whole 2 days | 13:22 |
| IgorYozhikov | might via webrtc like jit.si | 13:23 |
| toabctl | iirc we all 3 need to attend the requirements session too | 13:23 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok, I'll try to reach number80 with this questions | 13:23 |
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| toabctl | ok | 13:24 |
| toabctl | you could also write a mail to openstack-dev and ask there | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'm not going, my US visa expired | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | working on new one | 13:24 |
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| toabctl | arg. to bad | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes | 13:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok, let's move forward | 13:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic proposing to add aplanas as core | 13:25 |
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| aplanas | hi | 13:25 |
| toabctl | my topic - I would like to propose aplanas as a core reviewer | 13:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | +1 | 13:26 |
| toabctl | he did a lot of reviews in the past. See http://stackalytics.com/?metric=marks&project_type=all&module=packaging-rpm-group | 13:26 |
| jpena | +1 | 13:26 |
| toabctl | and having more cores would speed up things from time to time I guess | 13:26 |
| toabctl | cool | 13:26 |
| IgorYozhikov | #agreed on add aplanas as core | 13:27 |
| aplanas | thanks : ) | 13:27 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, could you write (as PTL) the usual core-reviewer proposal mail to openstack-dev where people can add their +1s ? | 13:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, sure | 13:27 |
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| IgorYozhikov | will do today | 13:28 |
| toabctl | #action IgorYozhikov writes mail to openstack-dev to propose aplanas for core-reviewer | 13:28 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, thx | 13:29 |
| toabctl | next topic? | 13:29 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes | 13:29 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) | 13:29 |
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| toabctl | anything special in the queue you want to discuss? | 13:30 |
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| number80 | +1 foraplanas | 13:31 |
| toabctl | hey number80 :) | 13:31 |
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| * IgorYozhikov want to confess that was to busy to proceed with nova & neutron during last week. Going to proceed with them tomorrow. | 13:32 | |
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| toabctl | same for me. sorry for that | 13:32 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, number80 - want to ask - what should we do with hanged commits | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | ? | 13:33 |
| * number80 still jet-lagged | 13:33 | |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, which hanged commits? | 13:33 |
| number80 | maybe just abandon them if they were inactive for too long | 13:33 |
| toabctl | +1 | 13:34 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open,25 4 example | 13:34 |
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| IgorYozhikov | September, October | 13:34 |
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| toabctl | as number80 said, abandon | 13:35 |
| IgorYozhikov | It looks like it will be good if someone from us or I will triage a queue | 13:35 |
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| IgorYozhikov | and give a heads up to author, if no response - abandon in 2 days | 13:36 |
| IgorYozhikov | colleagues what do you think about ^ | 13:38 |
| toabctl | just go ahead and do it :) | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | good | 13:38 |
| jpena | yep, agreed | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | we have no anything to review for pymod2pkg | 13:39 |
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| IgorYozhikov | but 3 hanged PRs for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/renderspec+status:open | 13:39 |
| toabctl | we need a new release from the suse side for the glareclient fix | 13:40 |
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| toabctl | I'lll take care about that | 13:40 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, thanx | 13:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | so | 13:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - Open Floor | 13:41 |
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| IgorYozhikov | do we have topics to discuss? | 13:43 |
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| toabctl | not from my side | 13:43 |
| jpena | nothing here | 13:43 |
| toabctl | number80, do we have a room at the PTG? | 13:44 |
| IgorYozhikov | yep, good question. | 13:44 |
| number80 | Yes, it was requested | 13:44 |
| toabctl | number80, you'll be there, right? | 13:44 |
| number80 | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 13:44 |
| number80 | Yup | 13:44 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, have you chance to look though https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-atlanta-packaging-rpm | 13:44 |
| toabctl | ok. then let's figure it out there where we meet | 13:45 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'm going to add this etherpad to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads | 13:45 |
| number80 | yes | 13:45 |
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| IgorYozhikov | ah, it's already there | 13:45 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, I did that already | 13:45 |
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| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, thanx again | 13:45 |
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| IgorYozhikov | anything else colleagues? | 13:47 |
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| number80 | nope | 13:48 |
| IgorYozhikov | same | 13:48 |
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| toabctl | nope | 13:49 |
| toabctl | let's end the meeting | 13:49 |
| toabctl | #endmeeting | 13:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 13:49:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-02-16-13.00.html | 13:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-02-16-13.00.txt | 13:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-02-16-13.00.log.html | 13:49 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 15:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
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| tommylikehu_ | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello alll | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | Hello | 15:01 |
| dustins | \o | 15:01 |
| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| kaisers_ | \o | 15:01 |
| jprovazn | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | s/alll/all/ | 15:01 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | Due to the critical bug found last week I'm planning an RC2 release | 15:02 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664370 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664370 in Manila "Manila exposes host/pool details to non-admin tenants" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Swartzlander (bswartz) | 15:02 |
| bswartz | with valeriy's help we have a complete fix for that bug ready | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433716 | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | we considered an decided against treating this as a security bug | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:04 |
| bswartz | while private information is leaking, no exploit is possible, and it's been this way for a long time | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: two questions 1) what about the manila-ui fix? 2) will a backport be proposed to stable/newton? | 15:04 |
| bswartz | a critical bugfix seemed like the best way to handle it | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: so we will b able to backport fix for windows driver too? that was implemented by lpetrut? | 15:04 |
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| ravichandran | hello | 15:04 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: for (2) yes, and I would entertain mitaka as well | 15:04 |
| dmellado | o/ hi | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: Manila Ui fix will be just "nice to have" | 15:05 |
| bswartz | for (1) it will need to be fixed in master and before the backport can be proposed | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: because we will have field "host" without any value | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | to answer vponomaryov's question, yes, because an RC2 is needed, we should be able to backport any other high importance or low risk bugfixes from master to ocata | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I do not consider UI part fix valueable enough to have RC2 | 15:06 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/ocara-rc2 | 15:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: ocara? | 15:06 |
| bswartz | if there are other bugs we should consider for RC2 please tag them and let me know | 15:06 |
| bswartz | SHIT | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1662944 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662944 in Manila "Share Group create - doesn't recognize availability zone" [Undecided,New] | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | ? | 15:06 |
| * bswartz headdesk | 15:06 | |
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| tbarron | bswartz: can we get the tempest pin update included since you are doing the rc2 anyways? | 15:07 |
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| ganso | wasn't aware of this OpenStack version called ocara | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: now you do ) | 15:07 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/ocata-rc2 | 15:07 |
| bswartz | ganso: good catch | 15:07 |
| dmellado | +1, tbarron, which pin is manila sync'ed as of that bump? | 15:08 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428230/ | 15:08 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1662944 does not have a fix in master and thus can't be considered for backport | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662944 in Manila "Share Group create - doesn't recognize availability zone" [Undecided,New] | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is small and I plan to do it | 15:08 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: not implement logic, but not break API | 15:09 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I'd like to push RC2 this afternoon | 15:09 |
| ganso | bswartz: this one only needs +2 to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434562/ | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | how many hours from no? | 15:09 |
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| vponomaryov | s/no/now/ | 15:09 |
| tbarron | dmellado: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428230/ close as I could get to what tempest will ship | 15:09 |
| dmellado | oh, I see | 15:09 |
| dmellado | I'll review thta too tbarron, thanks! | 15:09 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: as long as it takes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433716 to merge in master | 15:09 |
| tbarron | dmellado: it has merged, I just want it included in rc2 | 15:10 |
| * tbarron is stupid, that's the commit on master | 15:10 | |
| bswartz | I won't workflow anything to ocata until the critical bugfix is complete -- it we discover any issue with the bugfix, then RC2 could be canceled | 15:11 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433651 is the ocata backport, not merged | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: not postponed? exactly canceled? | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: the answer to your question is about the tempest pin is yes as long as it doesn't break anything | 15:11 |
| tbarron | bswartz: it has vponmaryov's blessing :) | 15:12 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: The window for RC2 will close because the final release is next week | 15:12 |
| bswartz | so RC2 is sort of now-or-never | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | ok | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | worst case, all of this stuff gets backported after the ocata release and appears in 4.1.0.0 | 15:12 |
| tbarron | s/vponmaryov/vponomaryov/ | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | tbarron, ^_^ | 15:13 |
| bswartz | there was one other question above about manila-ui | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | because manila-ui is a lib, is has no RC2 -- just releases | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we can skip Manila UI backporting | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | I would be happy to push a release out of the manila-ui stable branch for the benefit of distros | 15:13 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: thanks, it does make life easier | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | we can discuss later if the backport for manila-ui is worth doing at all, but assuming it is, it would appear in manila-ui 2.7.1 | 15:15 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #topic i18n liason needed | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | ianychoi pointed out last week that Manila doesn't have an official liason for i18n | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#I18n | 15:16 |
| bswartz | If someone would like to volunteer, please sign up on the wiki | 15:17 |
| bswartz | liasons are not required to attend i18n meetings (although they're welcome to) | 15:17 |
| ianychoi | +1 :) | 15:17 |
| bswartz | mostly the job is to be a contact person and to be responsible for fixing manila-specific i18n issues | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | anyone want to volunteer for this? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | I noticed that a little more than half of the projects listed don't have a liason | 15:18 |
| tommylikehu_ | what's the requirement for this? | 15:19 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu_: read the linked wiki | 15:19 |
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| ianychoi | Yep that's correct. Now I am considering that: I18n team indeed needs liaison people for horizon & horizon plugin projects which are enabled with translation (at least) | 15:20 |
| bswartz | as long as the liason role is empty, the responsbilities fall on the PTL, and I'm probably not doing a great job here | 15:20 |
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| tommylikehu_ | bswartz: lol, I am rejected by the first requirement .. | 15:20 |
| bswartz | I try to enforce string freezes and such, although I get constant pushback when I do | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | i volunteer tommylikehu_ :) | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | ianychoi: why there is requirement to be "core member"? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | ianychoi: is being a core reviewer an absolute requirement? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I read the text as SHOULD BE a core reviewer | 15:22 |
| ianychoi | tommylikehu_, I talked this requirement from previous PTLs and they said that it would be changed - not a requirement | 15:22 |
| bswartz | perhaps if tommylikehu_ want this job he could do it while not a core reviewer | 15:22 |
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| tommylikehu_ | bswartz: Thanks | 15:22 |
| ianychoi | IMO "or with the agreement of PTLs" would be fine | 15:22 |
| bswartz | I'll agree if tommylikehu_ want to sign up | 15:23 |
| bswartz | okay thanks | 15:23 |
| bswartz | #topic PTG | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-pike-ptg-topics | 15:23 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot tommylikehu_ ! | 15:23 |
| tommylikehu_ | ianychoi: np:) | 15:24 |
| bswartz | PTG is next week and therefore we will be canceling next week's IRC meeting | 15:24 |
| bswartz | The Manila team is meeting Wednesday and Thursday from 9AM-5PM EST (or whenever they let us have the room) | 15:25 |
| bswartz | I think in Barcelona we managed to stay later than everyone else | 15:25 |
| bswartz | the cleaning staff was surprised to find us still in the meeting room Friday afternoon | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: for about 15 minutes | 15:25 |
| cknight | bswartz: PTG rooms are available until 6 | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: not so that "later" as could be | 15:26 |
| dustins | And the bars stay open pretty late thereafter... | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I'm pretty sure we'll get hungry and decide to end our meetings | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | The main thing I want to stress is that this is the first PTG ever and I'm not really sure how it will play out | 15:27 |
| markstur | dustins may get kicked out of more than one room at closing time, huh? | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | I'm scheduling topics on the etherpad | 15:27 |
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| dustins | markstur: All in the name of good design and discussion :) | 15:27 |
| bswartz | please add any new proposed topics to the unscheduled section and don't move anything without talking to me about it | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | for those who won't be able to attend in person, gouthamr plans both a live webex and to make recordings of the sessions | 15:28 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: thanks | 15:29 |
| jprovazn | I revived ameade's user messages feature (a new spec for it is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434277/), I see vponomaryov added this to PTH topics, albeit I will not be there I can jump on a videoconf or something if there is interest to discuss this? | 15:29 |
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| jprovazn | s/PTH/PTG/ | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | jprovazn: you won't be able to attend in person? | 15:30 |
| jprovazn | bswartz, nope | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | user messages are worth discussing, but we have the option to cover it the following week in the IRC meeting as well, if we can't make a video conference work | 15:31 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure what the quality of the internet and conferencing equipment will be | 15:31 |
| jprovazn | bswartz, both works for me, I guess your schedule for PTG will be tight, but if it turns out there is a slot for this, any chance to let me know in advance? | 15:31 |
| jprovazn | (different TZ) | 15:31 |
| tbarron | bswartz: also, early in the day if possible | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: i'm hoping it'd be nice or ganso won't thank me :P | 15:32 |
| bswartz | jprovazn: if you can commit to a time, I'll schedule you at that specific time | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | jprovazn: contact me after the meeting | 15:32 |
| ganso | gouthamr: xD | 15:32 |
| jprovazn | bswartz, ok, will do later today | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: you can sponsor ganso any time )) | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: haha... someday | 15:33 |
| bswartz | IMO the foundation could expand its travel assistance program by squeezing more money out of sponsors | 15:34 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: summit is not "free" anymore, what are you talkign about? ) | 15:35 |
| bswartz | so have all of the topics in everyone's head already been proposed on the etherpad? | 15:35 |
| ravichandran | bswartz: can we push this change to ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434639/) | 15:35 |
| tommylikehu_ | vponomaryov: we have to buy the ticket | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | tommylikehu_: it is exactly what I am talkinga bout | 15:35 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: that's true, there will be fewer free passes to the summit, so admissions might generate more revenue | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | ravichandran: save that for open discussion | 15:36 |
| ravichandran | ok | 15:36 |
| bswartz | PTG attendees and presenters still get free passes to Boston -- so that could be several hundred free passes still | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz; PTG is not free too | 15:37 |
| bswartz | we'll see if the foundation decides to keep this new structure of split summit/PTG -- I'm sure they will receive plenty of feedback after next week | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: sooo, original statement still correct ) | 15:37 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: PTG costs only $100 and I'm sure that doesn't even cover the food/snacks | 15:38 |
| bswartz | they have sponsors making up the rest of the PTG costs | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: sure not covers, but it describes intentions to expand sponsorship ) | 15:38 |
| bswartz | so I'm not hearing that there are any more topics for the etherpad | 15:39 |
| bswartz | how about input on scheduling? | 15:39 |
| bswartz | I'm only have halfway done scheduling sessions | 15:39 |
| bswartz | is anything on the unscheduled list super interesting to multiple peopel? | 15:39 |
| bswartz | people | 15:40 |
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| dustins | The scenario tests are interesting to me | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | dustins: +1 and this one too: manage API requirements (vponomaryov) | 15:41 |
| dustins | Also that, good call, gouthamr | 15:41 |
| dustins | Telemetry would also be a nice thing to touch upon | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | also thinks we need some action items around: "Race Conditions follow up" | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | we need more hands on deck to get that completed :) | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I wouldn't mind talking about scenario test briefly today, as they've been causing me some problems the last few days | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | anyways that's all I had on PTG -- I'm going to keep tinkering with the schedule so please talk to me before moving anything -- limit your edits to adding more content to unscheduled and existing topics | 15:43 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | ravichandran: what is your change about? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434639/ | 15:44 |
| ravichandran | this about hpe driver share group signature change | 15:44 |
| ravichandran | to be in sync with driver.py | 15:44 |
| ravichandran | we dont support share group but we will pass message in the function | 15:45 |
| bswartz | ravichandran: yeah this looks very low risk | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | let me tag the bug and target it | 15:45 |
| markstur | very low risk | 15:45 |
| ravichandran | thank you | 15:45 |
| bswartz | okay so about scenario tests | 15:46 |
| bswartz | I'm running into a number of issues with them | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | AFAICT they're mostly written by u_glide and ganso | 15:46 |
| ganso | bswartz: whaaaa? which issues? | 15:46 |
| bswartz | not sure how much of them was written by vponomaryov or anyone else | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: originally -> by mkoderer ^_^ | 15:47 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz; but why does it matter? | 15:47 |
| markstur | so thanks go ganso blame to u_glide and mixed feelings to vponomaryov | 15:47 |
| bswartz | ganso: issues running them on my system, with bare devstack and tempest | 15:47 |
| markstur | s/go/to/ | 15:47 |
| bswartz | ah yes mkoderer did the pioneering work there | 15:47 |
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| vponomaryov | who is not blamed yet? )) | 15:47 |
| mkoderer | I am not guilty | 15:48 |
| vponomaryov | raise hand | 15:48 |
| bswartz | anyways one problem I noticed that is they rely on the existence of a pre-configured default share type | 15:48 |
| bswartz | that seems silly given that most of our tests create share types as they need them | 15:48 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes part of the necessary configuration is in pre_test_hook/post_test_hook | 15:48 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: scenario tests use share type from config if provided one | 15:48 |
| ganso | bswartz: also, another part of the configuration, and the reason why scenario tests don't run in my lab is something about neutron... VMs can never mount the share | 15:48 |
| bswartz | ganso: why not follow the pattern used elsewhere in the code and create it automatically? | 15:49 |
| ganso | bswartz: but totally unrelated with the migration tests I've written | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | ganso: so the other issue I encounter is with SSH timeouts in the migration scnenario tests | 15:49 |
| ganso | bswartz: that's the same problem I have in my lab | 15:49 |
| bswartz | ganso: the first 10 or so SSH commands go through fine, but then the 11th one hangs for 5 minutes | 15:50 |
| ganso | bswartz: they are not related to migration... the tests mount_one_vm, mount_two_vms suffer from this | 15:50 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: then it means that SSH ool is exceeded | 15:50 |
| vponomaryov | s/ool/pool/ | 15:50 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: need to close SSH connections properly | 15:50 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: is that a client side or server side pool? | 15:50 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I am assuming from your description of a problem | 15:50 |
| tbarron | and how big *is* it? how many connections are we doing? | 15:51 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: if we're not closing SSH connections after we're doing with them, that sounds like our bug | 15:51 |
| bswartz | done* with them | 15:51 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, if so, it is our bug | 15:51 |
| bswartz | in any case I'm interested in improving things with scenario tests | 15:51 |
| bswartz | we made no progress during ocata on getting 3rd party CIs to run scenario tests | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: HNAS ran them, right, ganso? | 15:52 |
| bswartz | my opinion is that it might be too hard still to get past some of the rough edges | 15:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: how come we didn't? they are running on LVM driver now | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: it is not 3rd-party | 15:52 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: no, they are not currently being run on HNAS, not yet | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: I mean you tried | 15:52 |
| bswartz | my point exactly | 15:52 |
| ganso | vponomaryov, bswartz: oh right, 3rd party, sorry | 15:52 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: I haven't finished trying | 15:53 |
| bswartz | we're closer than we were, but we haven't achieved the goal | 15:53 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: I submitted a test patch to continue working on it | 15:53 |
| bswartz | I'd like to track down the SSH issue if possible | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | if it's simply a bug in our SSH logic that would great | 15:53 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: have you filed a bugreport? | 15:53 |
| bswartz | if there's a tempest or paramiko issue we should try to file bugs in those projects | 15:53 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: not sure who's bug it is yet | 15:54 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429644/ | 15:54 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: to have picture of your problem | 15:54 |
| bswartz | I was doing tests with manila-test-image late last night and I considered that it might be my bug (in manila-test-image) although it seems unlikely without more testing | 15:54 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: this will be necessary for 3rd party | 15:54 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: either 0.0.0.0/0 or configurable range | 15:55 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: the reason I haven't filed a bug yet is because I've never personally observed this issue in our gate | 15:55 |
| bswartz | so I assume that some configuration exists which eliminates the problem | 15:56 |
| bswartz | and I just haven't found it yet | 15:56 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: still, the picture of problem is not available | 15:56 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:56 |
| bswartz | that won't be hard to obtain | 15:56 |
| bswartz | we can take that discussion to the channel | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | anything else for today's meeting? | 15:56 |
| vponomaryov | just reminder to all _> review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433716 | 15:57 |
| vponomaryov | it is RC2 reason | 15:57 |
| bswartz | +1000 | 15:57 |
| bswartz | ty vponomaryov | 15:57 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:57 |
| bswartz | I'll see some of you next week in person | 15:58 |
| tommylikehu_ | thanks | 15:58 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 15:58:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-02-16-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-02-16-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-02-16-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| aglarendil | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 16:00:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aglarendil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| aglarendil | hey, folks, who is around today? | 16:01 |
| aglarendil | so this is going to be a monologue today | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | #topic Ocata Release Status | 16:03 |
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| aglarendil | so far we are going to produce rc1 with okata packages. right now we are waiting for the packaging process to be completed | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | it will features Ocata packages for Fuel and OpenStack as well as Ubuntu Xenial support | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | the target date for the release is March 6th according to the release schedule | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/Release_Schedule | 16:05 |
| aglarendil | #topic Ocata and Newton.1 improvements: | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata and Newton.1 improvements: (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:05 | |
| aglarendil | for Ocata and Newton we are planning some improvements, mostly related to scale | 16:05 |
| aglarendil | such as: | 16:05 |
| aglarendil | 1) graph serialization parallelism (40 secs for a cluster of any size) | 16:05 |
| aglarendil | 2) using custom graphs for all actions | 16:06 |
| aglarendil | 3) provisioning scalability improvements | 16:06 |
| aglarendil | so far this is all for today | 16:06 |
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| aglarendil | thanks everyone (especially me, who attended) | 16:06 |
| aglarendil | #endmeeting Fuel | 16:06 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2017/fuel.2017-02-16-16.00.html | 16:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2017/fuel.2017-02-16-16.00.txt | 16:07 |
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| lhinds | hyakuhei: is sec meeting off (PTG next week)? | 17:04 |
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| unrahul | hyakuhei: is off (from what he said last week) and sigmavirus would chair this week? | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | looks empty | 17:05 |
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| unrahul | or can someone else chair then? | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | #startmeeting security | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | unrahul: never was told that we were actually going to hold it | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 17:05:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | oooh lag is bad, eh? | 17:05 |
| unrahul | o/ | 17:05 |
| browne | o/ | 17:05 |
| lhinds | o/ | 17:05 |
| unrahul | yaay! | 17:05 |
| knangia | o/ | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Roll Call | 17:05 |
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| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:06 |
| vinaypotluri | o/ | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus | Wow, great crowd today | 17:06 |
| capnoday | o/ sorry Im late | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus | You're not late at all capnoday | 17:06 |
| jessegler | o/ | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus | Welcome jessegler ! | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus | #info We started 5 minutes late which means we have 25 min for our meeting now :) | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus | #topic OSSN | 17:07 |
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| sigmavirus | Any Security Note updates lhinds ? | 17:07 |
| lhinds | we have one public open, which I will knock this week | 17:09 |
| lhinds | all will be closed then | 17:09 |
| lhinds | that's it | 17:09 |
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| sigmavirus | lhinds: I believe Magnum added an OSSN task | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus | But it's probably still private | 17:10 |
| lhinds | let me check | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus | strigazi was discussing a CVE they're workign on in #openstack-security | 17:10 |
| lhinds | have they assigned OSSN to the LP bug yet? | 17:10 |
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| lhinds | oh sounds like its a OSSA if a CVE is in order | 17:11 |
| sigmavirus | lhinds: they have obtaineda CVE already | 17:12 |
| * sigmavirus shrugs | 17:12 | |
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| sigmavirus | They're not vulnerability:managed as far as strigazi could tell | 17:12 |
| lhinds | that would explain why I am not seeing anything yet. sounds interesting,,will have a look | 17:13 |
| lhinds | containers :-P | 17:13 |
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| sigmavirus | :D | 17:16 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Security Guide | 17:16 |
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| sigmavirus | I think hyakuhei last week touched on the fact that we're now managing the bugs for this and working more closely with asettle and the manuals team | 17:16 |
| sigmavirus | I think we still need some people who can help out and tackle some of those bugs | 17:16 |
| sigmavirus | Anyone else have updates on this? | 17:16 |
| asettle | YOu rangggg | 17:17 |
| asettle | Oh yes! | 17:17 |
| sigmavirus | Yes, Lurch, we did | 17:17 |
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| lhinds | I can certainly look at some (sec guide) | 17:17 |
| asettle | I have scheduled some time to chat about the sec-guide in the docs sessions on the Tuesday. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-pike | 17:17 |
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| asettle | I'd like to talk about how we can work together, plan it appropriately, ensure the sec team doesn't feel like we've just dumped a guide on your doorstop, so to speak | 17:18 |
| capnoday | asettle great, hyakuhei and I will come along to that | 17:18 |
| asettle | Graet thanks capnoday :) | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | cool | 17:18 |
| asettle | A lot of the issues with the guide are either in a bug, or are already identified by hyakuhei | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | we should be able to help with security guide | 17:19 |
| asettle | Swell :) michaelxin did your team take a look? | 17:19 |
| vinaypotluri | +1 michaelxin | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | We are testing Glance now. We did a look and did not find any bug related with Glance. | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | Rahul is interested in a SSL one. | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | But he has not assigned it yet. | 17:20 |
| unrahul | yup michaelxin I was looking into the one, to update SSL/TLS intro | 17:20 |
| unrahul | I shall be assigning that to myself | 17:20 |
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| sigmavirus | Great | 17:23 |
| sigmavirus | Sorry, I'm managing 2 meetings and other work | 17:23 |
| vinaypotluri | I'm reading through a few bugs and will be assigning one to myelf soon | 17:23 |
| sigmavirus | Moving along :) | 17:24 |
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| sigmavirus | #topic Barbican SimpleCrypto Spec | 17:24 |
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| sigmavirus | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431228/2/specs/pike/enhance-simple-crypto.rst | 17:24 |
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| sigmavirus | hyakuhei: asked us to review that last week, figured I'd just remind you all to review it in anticipation for the PTG | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus | I don't know if barbican will have a presence or not | 17:24 |
| unrahul | I did a quick review on it mostly questions and a few comments. | 17:25 |
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| unrahul | The comment by hyakuhei on including simplecrypto as part of the barbican threat analysis seems valid | 17:26 |
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| sigmavirus | #topic Any Other Business | 17:27 |
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| sigmavirus | #info 3 minutes left | 17:27 |
| sigmavirus | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-security-team | 17:27 |
| unrahul | sigmavirus: we are working on glance testing for this week, I am doing the source code review | 17:28 |
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| knangia | i was investigating the http store for glance part... | 17:28 |
| unrahul | with a few of us in the team doing manual testing of API and running syntribos, we have identified few 500 issues and are looking for anything more | 17:28 |
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| sigmavirus | unrahul: sounds like fun | 17:29 |
| vinaypotluri | I'm working on the multiple locations issue of glance and manually testing glance. | 17:29 |
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| unrahul | yeah knangia was working on the http_store part and with v2 glance API http_store seems disabled and also from horizon we can't access that feature.. | 17:30 |
| unrahul | so I guess it is disabled.. | 17:30 |
| knangia | yes unrahul | 17:30 |
| sigmavirus | #endmeeting | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 17:30:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-02-16-17.05.html | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-02-16-17.05.txt | 17:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-02-16-17.05.log.html | 17:30 |
| lhinds | thanks all | 17:30 |
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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 18:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| vgridnev | o/ | 18:00 |
| raissa | o/ | 18:00 |
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| mariannelm | o/ | 18:01 |
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| tellesnobrega | lets wait a couple minutes to see if more people join in. I suspect this will be a very brief meeting | 18:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 18:01 |
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| vgridnev | Esikachev is not going to join today | 18:02 |
| tellesnobrega | ok, lets get it started | 18:02 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:02 | |
| tellesnobrega | On the upstream side I'm mostly working on Image gen feature, I may have a first draft of ambari up soon for review, cdh is coming up next | 18:03 |
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| vgridnev | Nothing from me again, busy with internal tasks | 18:03 |
| tellesnobrega | other than that, I was working on organizing PTG meet up, but I will talk more about that later | 18:03 |
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| tellesnobrega | mariannelm, do you have any news from you feature? | 18:04 |
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| mariannelm | In my opinion the patch is ready for review and possible merge as well | 18:04 |
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| tellesnobrega | ok, great, we can certainly put this a priority for our reviews, there is someone interested in adding new datasources to sahara | 18:05 |
| mariannelm | I've tested it with Mapreduce, Spark and Storm, and the jobs succeeded, and the vanilla test from sahara-ci succedeed | 18:05 |
| tellesnobrega | and your implementation will be crucial for that | 18:06 |
| tellesnobrega | awesome work :) | 18:06 |
| mariannelm | thank you! | 18:06 |
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| tellesnobrega | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427359/ | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427480/ | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427447/ | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, guys if we could have some eyes on this would be great | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, sorry again | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | lol | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | anyone else has news? | 18:08 |
| tosky | just a bit busy with general ocata testing for RDO | 18:08 |
| tellesnobrega | ok, great | 18:09 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic PTG | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:09 | |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, following the other projects structure, I've created a little schedule for us for next week | 18:09 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ptg-pike | 18:09 |
| tellesnobrega | if you guys want to take a look and make suggestions/fixes I would appreciate it | 18:10 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, do you know if esikachev is making to atlanta? | 18:10 |
| vgridnev | yes | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | great, do you think it is interesting to have a time set aside for test discussion - updates, what do we need to do improve, CI, and so on? | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | we have a couple open spots on thursday afternoon | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | and maybe more, I've allocated big slots for topics, so the whole may not even be necessary, we will see | 18:12 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, actually I think few topics are quite small now | 18:12 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, do you have any suggestion for tests related discussions that you think we should address? | 18:12 |
| tosky | apart from tests (I was writing it already): it's not exactly under my scope, but discussion about future plugin (linked to pig)? For example the status of Kafka (which we should have already) and maybe consider Flink? | 18:13 |
| vgridnev | For example, as I see, we have pig on vanilla topic; do you have discussion points for this? For 40 minutes? Seems a little bit strange | 18:13 |
| tosky | for tests, uhm, maybe check with people from CI what exactly will happen with the switch to zuulv3 and if we need to start working on the ansible playbooks to prepare the Sahara CI | 18:14 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I was actually going to suggest that the responsible for the topic to provide an etherpad with topics for discussions | 18:14 |
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| tellesnobrega | the 40 minutes is just a rough estimate, if we finish quickly we can move on to the next topic, it is going to be a few of us, easy to coordinate | 18:14 |
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| tellesnobrega | nice idea tosky, I will have to write it down and maybe esikachev can bring this up there | 18:15 |
| vgridnev | The important section I would like to add is that 'creation of roadmap' for Pike to see who is going to contribute something in what timeframe, because we have quite small team. | 18:15 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, great idea, can you add to the etherpad? And also, comment there on the time slots, reduce some if you want | 18:16 |
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| tellesnobrega | tosky, I like the idea of adding new plugins, sahara is being limited by not expanding to newer plugins (at least that is my thinking) | 18:17 |
| tellesnobrega | I heard mesos is something hot as well | 18:17 |
| tellesnobrega | not sure if it fits with our project, but worth taking a look | 18:17 |
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| tellesnobrega | #action vgridnev to add roadmap topic for ptg at etherpad | 18:18 |
| tellesnobrega | #action tellesnobrega to add possible new plugins discussion to the etherpad | 18:18 |
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| tellesnobrega | just reinforcing what I said before. If you proposed some topic at the etherpad, please create a new etherpad with details of what do you want to be discussed there, topics should be enough, and paste the link at the main etherpad | 18:19 |
| tosky | tellesnobrega: and if I'm not coming? Should I just add a note and leave it to the people in the room to decide wheather to talk about it? | 18:20 |
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| tosky | oh, well, I added few notes in the meantime :) | 18:21 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, is there a chance to attend via teleconference or something? | 18:21 |
| vgridnev | Just wondering | 18:21 |
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| vgridnev | I don't think so, actually | 18:21 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, we will try to make a teleconference for the not coming people | 18:21 |
| tellesnobrega | but I'm not sure if that will work out, from the last experience, quality wasn't so great, but we can certainly try. | 18:22 |
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| vgridnev | Do we really need strict schedule? | 18:22 |
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| tellesnobrega | tosky, having your notes there will at the very least guides us to the direction you intended on the topic | 18:22 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, actually no | 18:23 |
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| tellesnobrega | you think we can do better with a more relaxed schedule? I'm up for it as well | 18:24 |
| tellesnobrega | not a big deal for me | 18:24 |
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| vgridnev | The only issue is around possible teleconferences ; in such case we need to have most important discussions as earlier as possible | 18:25 |
| tellesnobrega | I see | 18:25 |
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| tellesnobrega | we can work without an official schedule, and we can change subjects with higher priorities for as early as possible when needed so to allow folks to participate remotely | 18:26 |
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| tellesnobrega | ok, do we have an agreement vgridnev? | 18:28 |
| vgridnev | Agreed with the last statement | 18:28 |
| tellesnobrega | awesome :) | 18:28 |
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| tellesnobrega | do we have anything else to discuss today? | 18:28 |
| tellesnobrega | raissa? | 18:28 |
| raissa | not from my side, agreed with tosky on the zuul3 discussion | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | cool | 18:29 |
| raissa | and if there's the possibility for watching remotely | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | I will try | 18:29 |
| raissa | I'd definitely want to attend | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | I emailed ptg@openstack.com twice but got no response what so ever | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, we will have to figure out there | 18:29 |
| raissa | yeah, may be tough | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | ok guys, if this is all we have for today | 18:30 |
| tellesnobrega | we can get 30 minutes back | 18:30 |
| vgridnev | ok, thanks all | 18:30 |
| tellesnobrega | for those coming to Atlanta next week, see you | 18:30 |
| tellesnobrega | for those not coming, you will be missed | 18:30 |
| tellesnobrega | next week we won't have sahara meeting | 18:31 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks all | 18:31 |
| tosky | well, we will | 18:31 |
| tosky | or someone will | 18:31 |
| tosky | just in person :) | 18:31 |
| tosky | (the meeting) | 18:31 |
| tellesnobrega | I meant no irc meeting | 18:31 |
| tosky | right :) | 18:31 |
| raissa | hehehe | 18:31 |
| raissa | see you | 18:31 |
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| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 18:31:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-02-16-18.00.html | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-02-16-18.00.txt | 18:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-02-16-18.00.log.html | 18:31 |
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