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acabot#startmeeting watcher13:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 13:01:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)"13:01
acaboto/13:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'13:01
chrisspencero/13:01
tmetschhi13:01
sballe_o/13:01
hidekazu_hello13:01
pshedimbhi13:01
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acabotagenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#02.2F15.2F201613:01
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acabot#topic Announcements13:02
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acabot#info PTG is in 1 week, etherpad is open and a 1st draft of agenda is available / no projector in the room13:02
acabot#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-watcher-ptg13:03
acabotI have a couple of new topics to add since last meeting13:03
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vincentfrancoisehi13:03
licanweihi13:03
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acabotI plan to finalize the agenda on Friday so please add any topic that needs to be discussed13:04
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acabotas our new PTL will be in remote, I'd like to have a clear agenda before we start13:04
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hidekazu_acabot: i will add more detail.13:05
acabot#info Prudhvi Rao Shedimbi (pshedimb) has been nominated to Watcher Core13:05
acabot#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112114.html13:05
acabotplease vote on the ML13:05
sballe_+113:06
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acabotI'd like to have our new cores on board before the PTG13:06
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sballe_+113:06
acabot#info licanwei has been nominated to Watcher Core13:06
acabot#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112116.html13:06
acabotplease vote also for licanwei13:06
sballe_+113:07
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licanweithank you acabot, vincent,sballe13:07
acabotalexchadin : I think if we have enough +1 by next Monday, we can add them in core group13:07
vincentfrancoiseacabot: +113:07
alexchadinacabot: +113:07
sballe_acabot: +113:08
pshedimbthanka acabot vincentfrancoise alexchadin13:08
hidekazu_acabot: vote is only by core, right?13:08
acabothidekazu_ : no no anyone can vote on the ML13:08
alexchadinhidekazu_: feel free to give your vote :)13:08
hidekazu_acabot: i see.13:08
acabothidekazu_ : most +1 we have, better it is13:08
hidekazu_acabot: +113:08
sballe_acabot: totally agree!13:08
acabot#info no meeting next week as we will be in Atlanta for the most part13:09
alexchadinacabot: seems that it is your last meeting as PTL13:09
vincentfrancoiseI was also thinking about nominating hidekazu_ as core BTW13:10
acabotalexchadin : :-) yes,13:10
sballe_acabot: thanks for a great job as PTL!13:10
acabotsballe_ : thx13:10
sballe_You have done a fantastic job13:10
alexchadinacabot: Thank you for your great work!13:10
pshedimbgreat work acabot :)13:10
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acabotthank you alexchadin pshedimb13:10
vincentfrancoiseacabot: good job boss :)13:10
sballe_lol13:11
acabotvincentfrancoise : thx (not your boss anymore ;-))13:11
licanweigreat work for watcher13:11
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: ah, you again used this word! :D13:11
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: hahaha did it on purpose :D13:11
acabothidekazu_ : what do you think about becoming watcher core ?13:11
acabot#link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/watcher/9013:12
hidekazu_acabot: yes, i will do my best.13:12
sballe_acabot: +113:12
hidekazu_acabot: i will be more involved in watcher in pike cycle.13:13
vincentfrancoiseI'll send an email on the ML for you hidekazu_ then ;)13:13
alexchadinhidekazu_: you've made good progress and your reviews is helpfull13:13
alexchadin+1 for nominating hidekazu_13:13
pshedimb+113:13
hidekazu_vincentfrancoise: alexchadin: thanks.13:13
acabot#action vincentfrancoise nominate hidekazu_ as core on the ML13:13
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acabotplease all vote on the ML for hidekazu_13:14
licanwei+113:14
sballe_+113:14
acabot#info next meeting will be chaired by alexchadin ;-)13:14
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alexchadinacabot: I'll do my best13:14
acabota quick work about the track chair process13:15
acabotour talks are moving from categories13:15
acabotno pb for now as they all stay in different categories13:15
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acabotsballe_ : your talk is still a lightning talk (I don't know why)13:15
sballe_I don;t understand it either. it is setup as a presentation13:16
sballe_can you change it?13:16
acabotand the foundation should annonce a dedicated slot for each project to give a status update at the summit13:16
acaboteven if the Watcher presentation is not selected, we should have a slot13:16
acabotsballe_ : no I can't13:17
sballe_anythign I can do?13:17
sballe_other than what I alreayd did13:17
acabotsballe_ : I don't think so13:17
acabotany other announcement ?13:17
* acabot thinking its the last time he is asking this stupid question :-)13:18
acabot#topic Review Action Items13:18
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acabotWatcher specs13:18
acabotwe still have specs targeted for ocata that needs to be moved13:18
acabotbefore being reviewed13:18
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/13:19
pshedimbacabot, I will move noisy neigbor to Pike. Totally missed it.13:19
acabot#action pshedimb move https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ to pike13:19
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acabot#action hvprash move https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ to Pike13:20
acabot#action vincentfrancoise move https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420612/ to Pike13:20
vincentfrancoiseacabot: ok13:20
acabotSuspended audit state needs a gate fix13:20
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434144/13:20
hidekazu_acabot: yes, i will fix.13:21
acabot#action hidekazu_ fix gate for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434144/13:21
acabotspecs for blueprint cancel action plan needs a new PS13:21
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/13:21
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acabothidekazu_ : do you know the nickname of Aditi ?13:23
hidekazu_adisky_13:23
acabotthx13:23
acabot#action adisky_ add a new PS answering comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/13:23
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acabotDefine when an action plan is stale/invalid needs reviews13:23
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432193/13:23
acabotwho wants to review ?13:24
hidekazu_acabot: i will13:24
acabot#action acabot hidekazu_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432193/13:25
acabotSupport Description For Dynamic Action needs final reviews from core13:25
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/13:25
acabot#action sballe_ acabot hvprash alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/13:26
acabotMoving to Watcher13:26
acabotworkload-balance-tempest needs core final reviews13:26
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:detached/workload-balance-tempest13:26
acabotalexchadin : could you have a look at it ?13:27
alexchadinacabot: I will take workload_stabilization, I'm not familiar with workload-balance strategy13:27
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acabot#action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393355/13:28
acabotI think we will have to wait for our new cores :-)13:28
vincentfrancoiseacabot: the other one cannot be finished because it doesn't support the absence of metrics13:28
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acabotvincentfrancoise : ok could you W-1 ?13:28
vincentfrancoiseacabot: ok13:29
acabotAdd Action Notification needs core final reviews13:29
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427646/13:29
acabot#action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427646/13:29
acabotReactivate watcher dashboard plugin in devstack/local.conf.controller needs core final reviews13:29
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429256/13:30
alexchadinW+113:30
acabotalexchadin : what do you mean ?13:30
alexchadinacabot: I'm ready to W+1 it13:30
acabotok vincentfrancoise can you +2 ?13:31
acabotvincentfrancoise : or you need to do more testes13:31
acabots/testes/tests13:31
vincentfrancoiseacabot: I want to have it enabled in the tempest tests as well so we know if it breaks again13:31
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acabotvincentfrancoise : ok so should we add a wishlist bug in this case ?13:32
vincentfrancoisebut I don't want to block it just for that as well, that's why I didn't +1 or -1'd it13:32
vincentfrancoiseacabot: we can do that yes13:33
acabot#action vincentfrancoise submit a bug to have tempest tests for watcher dashboard13:33
acabot#action vincentfrancoise alexchadin review & merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429256/13:34
acabotdynamic-action-description needs a new PS13:34
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acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description13:34
acabotis yumeng here ?13:34
acabot#action hanrong add a PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description13:35
acabot#topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion13:35
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acabot#info Bug fixing in progress for Ocata-rcfinal targeted for February 16th13:35
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acabot#link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-rc-final13:35
acabotwe need reviews on bug fixing before tomorrow so that we can release Watcher in v1.0.113:37
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429995/13:37
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422295/13:37
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430521/13:37
alexchadinWill review them13:38
acabot#action alexchadin vincentfrancoise review and merge (if possible) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429995/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422295/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430521/13:38
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vincentfrancoiseacabot: will do13:39
acabotthx13:39
acabot#info We will release a v1.0.1 on February 16th due to #166281013:39
acabot#link  https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/166281013:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1662810 in watcher "model_root.get_node_instances(node) returns none instances" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to licanwei (li-canwei2)13:39
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licanweiacabot https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description W-1 by vincent13:40
acabotlicanwei : yes because spec has been updated13:40
acabotsince hanrong implementation13:40
acabotlicanwei : was it your question ?13:40
licanweiacabot no question:)13:41
acabotlicanwei : ok13:41
acabotso we are waiting for a new PS from hanrong based on updated spec13:41
licanweiok13:42
acabot#info dont forget that all fixed bugs should be backported to stable/ocata branch13:42
acabot#topic Open discussions13:43
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acabot15 minutes left !13:43
acabot#info Ceilometer API is now deprecated and not supported anymore in devstack13:43
sballe_yeah I wanted to talk about this as well13:43
acabotso our existing strategies don't work any more in devstack13:43
acabotwe have to rely on Gnocchi now13:44
pshedimbyes13:44
sballe_can we go directly to Monasca?13:44
sballe_Gnocchi doesn't sounds like the rigth choice. Not sure anybody is using it13:44
acabotsballe_ : no because Monasca is too heavy to be integrated with devstack13:44
acabotsballe_ : we don't really care about who is using it, we need to stick to devstack13:45
alexchadinit is proposed as official API replacement13:45
sballe_so we end up doing extra busy work that doesn't really benefit anybody13:45
alexchadinsballe_: ^13:45
sballe_ok13:45
sballe_alexchadin: ok13:45
alexchadinI've started to work on using gnocchi api for Watcher, but sanfern (right?) take this BP13:45
acabotsballe_ : no no we talk about devstack only (not a real env)13:45
alexchadinI've installed gnocchi, it works not bad at all13:46
hidekazu_redhat support gnocchi.13:46
acabotalexchadin : good to hear13:46
acabotmaybe we could have a quick sync with jdanjou next week in Atlanta13:46
acabothe is Telemetry PTL13:47
alexchadinMonasca is even too hard to install it, there are big technology stack13:47
alexchadingnocchi is more lightweight13:47
alexchadinand it has good sync with ceilometer publishers13:47
acabotsanthosh.fernandes took this BP a week ago but anyone discussed with him since ?13:48
alexchadinI wanted to speak with him, but he wasn't online13:48
alexchadinActually, I'd like to complete my work here13:48
acabotI'm not sure he's really working on it13:48
alexchadinI've missed talks about taking this BP13:49
vincentfrancoiseacabot: he's pksingh's colleague so you can talk to him to know about it13:49
acabotvincentfrancoise : ok13:50
pshedimbacabot, alexchadin I have one thing to add13:50
pshedimbI think there needs to be change in new devstack local.conf, with placement-api mandatory now13:50
pshedimbTo the one given in watcher docs13:51
acabot#action alexchadin sync with pksingh & santhosh64 to know the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/gnocchi-watcher13:51
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alexchadinpshedimb: what commit are you talking about?13:51
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pshedimbalexchadin, the new devstack needs placement-api in nova.conf of compute node.13:52
pshedimbWhich was not required previously.13:52
alexchadinpshedimb: let's discuss it in openstack-watcher channel13:53
pshedimbalexchadin, okay.13:53
acabotI forgot to mention that we have our official Watcher logo !!13:54
acabot#link https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_h5gjY7WQPMOWJUMlVhOG9rWGM13:54
acabot#info Watcher logo is now official #link at we have our offi13:54
acabot#undo13:54
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #info Watcher logo is now official #link at we have our offi13:54
acabot#info Watcher logo is now official #link https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_h5gjY7WQPMOWJUMlVhOG9rWGM13:54
sballe_cool!13:55
alexchadinlooks good :)13:55
acabot#info At the PTG, we’ll have stickers for your team of the mascot, plus signage on your room.13:55
acabotwe will all be jellyfished !!! thx to jwcroppe :-D13:56
alexchadinseems that next summit will be filled with new logo merchandise :)13:56
sballe_cool! Can somebody take a couple of stickers for me13:56
acabotsballe_ : sure I will13:56
alexchadinsballe_: +113:56
pshedimbsballe_, I surely can13:56
sballe_thx13:56
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acabotits time for me to end my last meeting !13:57
acabotthank you all for having Watcher been a great openstack project !13:58
sballe_bye thx!13:58
licanweithank you acabot13:58
vincentfrancoisebye all!13:58
alexchadinthank you, acabot13:58
hidekazu_acabot: thank you13:58
acabotand I'm sure that it will be even greater with alex ;-)13:58
chrisspencerthanks acabot13:58
acabotsee you in Atlanta !13:58
alexchadinacabot: hope to see you in Summit :)13:59
acabotalexchadin : yes I hope so13:59
acabotbye13:59
alexchadinbye13:59
licanweibye13:59
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acabot#endmeeting13:59
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pshedimbbye14:00
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rkukurahi ML2’ers16:00
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rkukuraanyone here for ML2 today, or are we skipping today and meeting at the PTG?16:02
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dasanindhi16:04
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rkukurahi dasanind16:05
rkukuraI’m not seeing Sukhdev today, and not sure if you met last week (no log)16:05
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dasanindrkukura: only me and Sukhdev were there last week so we didn't meet16:06
rkukuraOK, similar deal this week16:06
dasanindWe decided to add a design session for the integration of multiple port binding16:06
dasanindin PTG16:07
rkukuraOK, sounds good16:07
rkukuraI’ll try to do my homework before that - reading the final spec, current patch, etc.16:07
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dasanindCool16:07
rkukuraso ML2 meetings today and next week are canceled16:08
dasanindok16:08
rkukurasee you in Atlanta16:08
dasanindsee you16:08
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dasanindrkukura: I have one quick question if you have few minutes16:09
rkukurasure16:09
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dasanindhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/db.py#L4316:10
rkukuralooks familiar16:11
dasanindthe add_port_binding is being called from here https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/plugin.py#L126716:12
dasanindMy understanding is when the port is getting created we are doing the port binding16:12
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rkukuraI’m not positive, but I think we create the port binding record when the port is created, then update it when the port is bound.16:13
dasanindok so when I am doing the integration of the multiple port binding do you think there will be some changes here?16:14
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rkukuraIt would seem to me that we need something like the dvr_port_binding table, where the host_id is part of the primary key16:17
dasanindwe changed the ml_port_binding table to have host_id as the primary key in Ocata16:17
dasanindI mean ml2_port_binding table16:19
rkukuraok, I was looking at mitaka code16:19
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rkukuraSo in master, does a single port binding record get created when the port is created, with an empty host_id?16:20
* dasanind checking port create16:23
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dasanindmy devstack is very slow :(16:28
rkukuradasanind: I’ve got to wrap this up quickly16:28
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dasanindrkukura: I will dig in through this more then we can talk in PTG. Thank you16:30
rkukuraIt seems to me that ideally no ml2_port_binding record would get created until some host_id is available16:30
rkukuraOK16:30
rkukurasee you later16:30
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 17:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'designate'17:00
mugsie#topic Roll Call17:00
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blancoso/ Hello17:00
mugsietimsim: Kiall sonuk_ ping17:00
mugsieo/17:00
timsimo/17:01
sonuk_O/17:01
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mugsie#topic Announcements17:01
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Kiallo/17:01
mugsie#info timsim is PTL as soon as I do the last Ocata release17:01
timsimTake your time ;)17:01
* Kiall buts mugsie is stalling ;)17:02
Kiallbets*17:02
mugsieso, this will be my last time chairing for you lovely people17:02
mugsie#topic Action Items17:02
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mugsiethere was none17:02
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mugsietimsim talked to himself for bit :)17:02
timsim:P17:02
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mugsie#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:02
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/166440117:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1664401 in Designate "409 Duplicate zone returned when recreating previously deleted zone." [Undecided,New]17:03
timsimJust reading over this...betting the zone never got deleted17:03
mugsieyeah17:03
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mugsieif we ask for a "zone show" I bet it is in PENDING17:03
mugsietimsim: incomplete, ask for zone list / zone show ?17:04
timsimYeah, they're using v1, looks like the setup his pretty busted either way17:04
timsimWill do17:04
timsimThat's all17:04
mugsie\o/17:05
mugsieyeah, i sent one back to openstack-manuals yesterday17:05
mugsie#topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring)17:05
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Kiallkinda dealing with a small outage! Back and forth from my desk17:06
mugsie#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/599071/17:06
timsimAn outage you can't fix from your desk?17:06
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timsim31ca41e Merge "Do not send DNS queries against hostnames"17:06
timsimBut didn't that already go?17:07
mugsieI think it is a physical server in the office ;)17:07
mugsieit did17:07
timsimheh.17:07
* timsim imagines Kiall's dad yelling at him down the hallway to fix things17:07
mugsiehttps://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAcXAAAAJDk4NzZmMDdkLWU0YzEtNGJjMi05MWU2LTExODZlMzcxN2E5Mw.jpg17:07
mugsieanything else?17:07
timsimNah17:08
mugsie#topic Open Discussion17:08
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mugsiefor people that didn't see, or are new, I wrote a piece about the project17:08
mugsie#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/111894.html17:08
KiallIt's that 1 ubuntu 9.04 server that A) is still running and B) is no longer able to fsck it's own disks after a power outage, needs to be live-usb booted, fscked, and brought back online17:08
timsimholy crap17:09
Kiall8.04 maybe? can't remember. Either way, it's odl17:09
Kiallold(17:09
timsimThat was like your most successful dev list post ever mugsie17:09
mugsie:)17:09
mugsieI started a trend17:09
timsimWas glad to see it17:09
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sonuk_Cool17:10
mugsieI hope by having the inof out there, people can point at it and use it to get resources17:10
mugsietimsim: yeah, no one shouted at me this time :)17:10
blancosmugsie: I'm actually working as part of a team that's interested in putting resources towards Designate17:10
mugsieblancos: sweet17:11
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blancosI was wondering if you (or anyone else) had any suggestions for some ways we could help?17:11
blancosWe've been reading through docs and are working on getting a dev env set up17:11
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mugsiesure. there are some bugs marked as low hanging fruit that are good starters17:11
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mugsiealso, testing is very important17:12
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit17:12
mugsie#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit17:12
mugsietimsim: snap17:12
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mugsieblancos: also code reviews are very important17:12
mugsieit really helps a core team when there is good code reviews before we look at reviews17:13
mugsieas it means smaller issues can be filtered out, and fixed before a core looks at them17:13
mugsieblancos: for example, OpenStack is about to move to a new version of eventlet17:13
timsimblancos: Which company are you affiliated with?17:14
mugsietesting designate with that would be very useful17:14
blancostimsim: We're with AT&T. I think DavidPurcell actually reached out to you guys last week?17:14
mugsiehe did17:14
mugsiefor people who are going to be at the PTG next week, I have grabbed some rooms to talk about these things17:15
mugsie#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms17:15
mugsiewe may move them, or grab more as we see fit during the week17:15
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mugsieif people have questions, use the mailing list, or the IRC channel. I am in the all the time, and read scrollback when I get into the office17:17
mugsieit may not be an immediate answer, but we are pretty good at replying when we are around17:17
mugsieany other questions?17:17
mugsieor other items17:17
sonuk_mugsie: so we will have designate ptg at Atlanta or virtual Pte17:18
sonuk_*ptg17:18
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* timsim can't believe that's next week already17:18
timsimsonuk_: mugsie and I will be in Atalanta17:19
mugsieit wont be ptg really. it will be me and timsim trying to round up new contribtors17:19
sonuk_Ok17:19
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mugsiethat it?17:20
mugsiegoing once17:20
mugsietwice17:20
mugsie... gone17:20
mugsie#endmeeting17:20
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"17:20
openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb 15 17:20:37 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:20
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timsimo/17:20
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timsimDon't you dare17:21
timsim<3 mugsie thanks for PTLing17:21
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Kiall:D17:21
sonuk_:)17:21
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johnma#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 18:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnma. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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trevormco/18:00
johnmaHi trevormc18:01
songjiano/18:01
johnmaHi songjian18:02
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johnmawill wait another minute or so and see if there's anyone else joining18:02
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songjianHi,johnma18:02
johnmaamrith is travelling this week as well, but will be back in time for next week's PTG in Atlanta18:03
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johnmaI guess it is just us. might be a short meeting.18:04
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johnmaanyone have anything you would like to bring up - reviews , etc18:04
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johnmalast week we had some review requests from peterstac18:05
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johnmatrevormc: I hit some issues with the redis tests. Not sure if you were seeing the same problem as I was but I saw amrith's comments18:06
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trevormcjohnma: I'll give the patch another try. The latest stable version is no longer 3.2.718:07
johnmaoh interesting. what is it then18:07
trevormc#link https://raw.githubusercontent.com/antirez/redis/3.2/00-RELEASENOTES18:07
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trevormcon redis.io they say they released 3.2.918:07
trevormcsorry 3.2.918:08
trevormc3.2.818:08
johnmaok, so I will also test this again and we can post our findings in the review section18:08
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johnmawe need to see if we can get this merged soon.18:09
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johnmaon the module-reapply patchset, I reviewed that and it looks good . I just need to add my comments in there which I will do after this meeting18:09
johnmawas there anything else in terms of reviews?18:09
johnmaif not, let us move on18:10
johnma#topic Open Discussion18:10
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johnmawe have our PTG happening next week in Atlanta18:10
trevormcI'll be there!18:11
johnmado we have a wiki for Trove18:11
trevormcwe have an etherpad but its empty18:11
trevormcYou can see it here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads18:11
johnmaawesome. was about to ask for it18:12
johnmathanks trevormc18:12
trevormc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pike-ptg-topics18:12
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trevormcI added a topic in there but I'm not sure if we handle our own devref or if the docs team does18:13
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johnmathats a good topic and I agree we need to improve our docs and update them. If that happens in this release, thats great18:14
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johnmaanother thing I know Amrith wants to focus on is gate stability18:14
johnmain this release18:15
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johnmaso there will be more work around that18:15
johnmaanything else? If not, I guess we can end this meeting early18:15
songjianI have18:16
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johnmago ahead songjian18:16
songjianI have two things, the first thing is that I would like to py3 related hacking rule added to the local test, has now tried to modify a, https: //review.openstack.org/#/c/431870/18:16
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songjianThe other, please see the patch commit message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434055/18:16
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trevormcsongjian, I'll look at the hacking checks18:18
songjianIt seems to use six.moves.mock to be better, but it will be a big change, so would like to ask everyone's advice18:18
songjianthx,trevormc18:18
trevormcthe second patch is probably something we want to do in trove as well if we every want to move to python 3.3+ testing18:20
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johnmasongjian, let us add this topic to the PTG topic list. I think this will be a good item to discuss there with a broader audience18:21
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songjianIf that makes sense, I will start working, which may have to bring near thousands of changes18:21
johnmait looks like a wide impact and if we decide to do it , will be better to get it in early in the cycle18:21
johnmabefore you make any changes, lets discuss this during the PTG session18:22
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trevormcthat reminds me about something else I wanted to ask18:22
johnmacan you add some notes around this topic in the link provided by trevormc18:22
songjianOK, this time I can not attend the PTG(regret), so will wait for the discussion results, thx18:23
trevormcWhat do we think about adding bandit as a gate for trove? Like pylint, It has false positives that we can mark ourselves.18:23
johnmaand also include all the relevant links and impact you think this change will have on Trove side, etc18:23
songjianI'll sort it out and add it to erthpad tomorrow during the day18:24
johnmasongjian, I understand that. If you can put all your thoughts around this topic in the etherpad, then we can have a good discussion at the PTG and we can update the etherpad with our thoughts18:25
johnmasounds good songjian. Appreciate it18:25
johnmaI dont know much about bandit18:26
johnmaso what additional check does it provide that is missing today?18:26
trevormcIt does static code analysis for security vulnerabilities. Keystone I believe runs it as a gate18:26
trevormc#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Projects/Bandit18:27
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johnmaanybody else runs it at gate?18:28
trevormcCinder is in the process of adding it, I think it's a non-voting gate for them18:28
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179568/18:29
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trevormcThat's just the tox support I believe but they are making more changes related to bandit18:29
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trevormchttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/cinder+bandit18:30
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johnmaok. why dont you add this to the PTG topic list for discussion. I don't think this will affect gate stability in any ways. Might just be a question of priority18:32
trevormcyeah I have the same thoughts18:32
trevormcdone!18:33
johnmagreat. I need to see if I can gather some info around grenade tests also18:33
johnmait has been on our to-do list for some time18:33
johnmaalright, anything else to discuss18:34
johnmaI thought this would be a short meeting but we are already half way through - neat!!18:34
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trevormcnothing else here18:35
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songjiannothing, and very much agree with trevormc about the documentation18:35
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johnmame too :)18:35
trevormcthanks for the support! I think it will help bring on new contributors18:35
johnmalets work on getting our docs up to the mark18:36
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johnmasounds like a plan. Thanks trevormc and songjian for your time and appreciate your thoughts and hardwork18:36
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trevormcyou too johnma, much appreciated18:37
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johnmayou all have a great rest of the week and look forward to talking to you soon. If anything else comes up in the mean time, ping me on our regular channel18:37
songjianmuch appreciated18:37
trevormco/18:38
johnmaI an guessing we wont have our regular Trove meeting next week because of the PTG but will regroup the week after.18:38
johnmaTake care and safe travels trevormc18:38
trevormcthanks18:38
johnma#endmeeting Trove18:38
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Y7WRxyGu/20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 20:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia_https___usercontent_irccloud_cdn_com_file_y7wrxygu_'20:00
openstackjohnsom: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.20:00
johnsomUgh, no idea why it pasted graphically...20:00
clarkbjust end the current meeting and restart using the string you wanted20:01
xgermano/20:01
johnsomHi there folks20:01
nmagnezio/20:01
johnsomYeah, it looks like it actually did start it with the right name20:01
johnsom#topic Announcements20:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Y7WRxyGu/)"20:02
johnsomFirst up, no IRC meeting next week.  Some of us will be at the PTG.20:02
clarkbno we are currently being logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia_https___usercontent_irccloud_cdn_com_file_y7wrxygu_/2017/20:02
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clarkb(but thats fine I guess if you are fine with it)20:03
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johnsom#endmeeting20:03
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johnsom#startmeeting20:03
openstackjohnsom: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'20:03
johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 20:03:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:03
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)"20:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:03
johnsomUgh, bad meeting day....20:03
johnsomOk, trying again.20:03
nmagnezihello again :-)20:03
johnsom#topic Announcements20:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)"20:03
rm_worko/20:04
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johnsomThe IRC meeting next week is canceled due to some of us being at the PTG.20:04
johnsomclarkb Thanks BTW for catching the meeting topic issue20:05
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johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-pike20:05
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johnsomAbove is the etherpad for topics at the PTG20:05
johnsomAny other announcements today?20:06
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johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:06
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nmagnezia question about the PTG, as some of us cannot attend, will there be any doc/mail/anything else to cover the discussed topics and discussion outcomes?20:06
johnsomI have started work on the api-reference guide.  You can see a preview here: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/92/433392/8/check/gate-octavia-api-ref/07fc407//api-ref/build/html/20:07
nmagnezithanks20:07
johnsomnmagnezi Good question.  My expectation is we should take notes in the etherpad for folks that cannot attend20:08
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xgerman+120:08
xgermanthere is a shortage of AV equipment so… that might be the only option20:08
nmagnezijohnsom, i will keep track on that etherpad. thank you :)20:08
rm_workif someone feels like opening a laptop and connecting it to a google hangout or something (if the wifi is good)...20:08
rm_workjust for major stuff20:09
nmagnezirm_work, in which timezone are you guys going to be during the PTG?20:09
xgermanwe can give that a try…20:09
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xgermanit’s 9-5 in Atlanta20:09
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johnsomYeah, we will see on the video.  That hasn't worked well for us in the past.20:09
xgermanI think they are Central20:09
bkeroAtlanta is GMT-520:09
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johnsomYeah, it's Eastern20:10
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rm_worknmagnezi: for the record, I won't be there, I am hoping for a line in as well :P20:10
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nmagneziI'm at UTC+2 so  I might be able to partially participate20:10
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nmagnezirm_work, hah :)20:11
nmagnezijohnsom, sorry if I interrupted, please go ahead with the meeting.20:12
johnsomYou all can still ping us on IRC too if there are topics of interest20:12
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johnsomNo problem, good topic20:12
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johnsomWe were on progress reports20:12
johnsomI mentioned the api-ref20:13
johnsomAny other progress reports to call out or items we need to look at?20:13
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johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ocata-merge-review-priority20:14
jnieszjohnsom, I am working on the docs for L3 active/active.  Goal is to have it done end of week20:14
johnsomWe still have merge patches to review.  I know the load balancer patch is being worked on now20:14
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johnsomjniesz Excellent.  I started reviewing Act/Act based on this:20:14
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Active-_Active_Topology_commits20:15
johnsomOthers please also start going through those.20:15
rm_workyeah starting to get those API patches merging should be priority #1, right?20:15
johnsomYes, we really need to get those in as a lot of other work is depending on them20:15
johnsomLike I said, they are fixing some bugs in load balancer now, which I think is the top of the tree20:16
johnsomOk, moving on...20:17
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johnsom#topic Octavia team mascot20:17
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johnsomAs we are now a top level project I got an e-mail about getting a mascot20:17
johnsomMost of the other projects have one.20:17
johnsomHere is the guidance I got:20:18
johnsomThe process is pretty simple—just work with your team to choose a mascot from the natural world. It can be an animal (but not an imaginary creature), fish, bird, bug, natural feature (like a waterfall … but not a named landmark like Niagara Falls) or other natural element (example: Heat chose a flame to represent them; Nova chose a supernova).20:18
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-mascot20:18
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johnsomLet's use that etherpad to collect ideas20:19
xgermank20:19
johnsomWe don't need to rush on this.20:19
johnsomIn a future meeting we can vote and then the foundation will have some illustrators come up with some drafts20:20
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perelmanjoin20:20
perelmanhi all20:20
johnsomHi perelman20:20
johnsomAny questions about the mascot?20:21
nmagnezinop20:21
johnsomYou can see other project examples by searching the openstack-dev mailing list.20:21
johnsomneutron's is here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9nzvr9nxzo7w9zw/AACdyh1flHgQWc37dwdxnfWda?dl=020:21
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johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:22
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nmagnezi#link https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots/20:22
nmagnezimore examples20:22
nmagnezi:)20:22
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johnsomnmagnezi Thanks!  I forgot about that link20:23
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perelmanwe are now working on the distributor backend20:23
perelman extended it to treat many corner cases and clean it20:23
johnsomperelman Did you see my review comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313006/20:23
perelmanhope soon to upload it20:23
johnsomI am working my way down the list in the etherpad20:24
perelmanok20:24
perelmanthank u!20:24
nmagnezijohnsom, so re: google hangout during the PTG. if it will happen I'll do my best to join, but I cannot commit due to timezone differences. however if we can get some heads-up (via IRC or mail) about specific topics and timing, I might be able to attend more.20:24
nmagnezirm_work, ^^20:25
perelmanwe are a bit stuck with the fresh version of backend20:25
johnsomAlso of note, there are a few new RFEs in, one about aggregated stats and one to start talking about access to the logs.20:25
johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/166506320:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1665063 in octavia "Octavia does not provide Tenant/Cloud wise aggregated load balancer stats" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Santhosh Fernandes (santhosh-fernandes)20:25
johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/166506920:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1665069 in octavia "Support of haproxy log aggregation capabilites" [Wishlist,Triaged]20:25
rm_workyeah i've got some thoughts on logs20:25
johnsomPlease comment on those with your thoughts and input20:25
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johnsomperelman Is there something you are stuck on that we can help with?20:26
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johnsomOr are you just busy working on the backend and will come back around to answer comments?20:27
perelmanno. just added too much code. thanks20:27
johnsomAh, ok!20:27
perelmanyes20:27
johnsomAny other discussion topics for today?20:28
nmagnezinop. just the google hangout issue if it will eventually be relevant20:28
johnsomYeah, I am not sure how the schedule will go.  The first two days are cross-project days.  I expect to be in other team meeting rooms.  Them for the last few days the octavia team will be in the neutron room.20:29
rm_workyeah no worries20:31
nmagnezigot it. well if it will work out we'll do this. If not, no harm done.. :)20:31
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johnsomI will ping in the IRC channel if there is an opportunity to setup a hangout room.20:31
johnsomWhen topics start20:31
nmagnezithank you for the intention :)20:32
johnsomNP20:32
johnsomIf there isn't anything else we can wrap up the meeting and see if we can figure out why rm_work is having DB deadlock issues.20:33
xgermanmaybe he should use postgres…20:33
johnsomHahaha20:33
johnsomI guess you saw that discussion about dropping postgres jobs20:34
xgermanyep, I did…20:34
johnsomPersonally I like postgres20:34
nmagnezii didn't see it20:35
nmagnezioracle acquired that as well? :D20:35
xgermanno20:35
nmagneziwhy is it being dropped?20:35
johnsomThere should be a chain on the openstack-dev list.  Basically talking about not using it in any of the infra gates anymore20:35
clarkbbecause there was little in the way of people keeping it working20:36
johnsomI think it comes down to people fixing bugs with using postgres20:36
clarkbso last time it broke sdague removed the main job20:36
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johnsomYep20:36
johnsomI kind of wish sqlalchemy was a better abstraction module, but that is yet another discussion.20:37
xgermanwe still have 23 minutes ;-)20:37
johnsomAnyway, thanks folks!20:37
johnsomHa20:37
rm_worko/20:37
nmagneziI'll look it up20:37
nmagnezibye guys20:37
nmagnezio/20:37
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xgermanbye20:37
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johnsom#endmeeting20:38
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