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| masahito | priteau, tejaswi, hiro-kobayashi GeraldK, bertys_: hi all. time to blazar meeting | 09:00 |
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| priteau | Hello | 09:00 |
| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 09:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| hiro-kobayashi | hi | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| masahito | #chair priteau hiro-kobayashi | 09:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau | 09:00 |
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| masahito | #topic RollCall | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| hiro-kobayashi | o/ | 09:01 |
| masahito | \o/ | 09:01 |
| priteau | o/ | 09:01 |
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| masahito | Todays agenda is... | 09:02 |
| masahito | 1. action items from last call | 09:02 |
| masahito | 2. O release | 09:02 |
| masahito | 3. Pike blueprints | 09:02 |
| masahito | 4. AOB | 09:02 |
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| masahito | anything else? | 09:03 |
| hiro-kobayashi | nothing | 09:03 |
| masahito | #topic Action items from last meeting | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:03 | |
| masahito | I can see one action item from last meeting | 09:04 |
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| masahito | ACTION: tejaswi to open bug about 'host update' | 09:04 |
| masahito | but it looks like tejaswi isn't here today. | 09:05 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | I cannot find the bug entry on Launchpad | 09:05 |
| masahito | yes, so skip to next topic. | 09:05 |
| masahito | #topic O release | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "O release (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:06 | |
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| masahito | I'm thinking I'll cut 0.2.0 release tomorrow morning because other team starts their activities and it affects blazar repo now. | 09:07 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:08 |
| GeraldK | o/ | 09:08 |
| bertys__ | +1 | 09:08 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 09:08 |
| tejaswi_ | o/ | 09:08 |
| priteau | I'll try to push my patch later today | 09:08 |
| priteau | I am working on an update following your comments | 09:08 |
| masahito | From etherpad page, only this patch is under the review but easy to backport lator | 09:08 |
| masahito | GeraldK: tejaswi_: o/ | 09:09 |
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| bertys__ | priteau: have you received feedback from previous cores? | 09:09 |
| priteau | none :( | 09:09 |
| masahito | priteau: thanks. I'll check it tomorrow. | 09:10 |
| bertys__ | priteau: well this is 3 years old... | 09:11 |
| masahito | we can improve current blazar. if we get any feedback we can respond it. | 09:13 |
| masahito | any comments for the release? | 09:13 |
| hiro-kobayashi | About docs | 09:13 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I've published docs on readthedocs.org | 09:13 |
| hiro-kobayashi | #link http://blazar.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 09:13 |
| hiro-kobayashi | This docs are built from the doc directory of blazar git repo | 09:14 |
| priteau | hiro-kobayashi: great job! | 09:14 |
| hiro-kobayashi | And I will update the wiki to link the new readthedocs page | 09:14 |
| bertys__ | hiro-kobayashi: nice! | 09:14 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: nice work! | 09:15 |
| hiro-kobayashi | So, we can stop managing duplications! | 09:15 |
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| masahito | we're ready to release :) | 09:16 |
| GeraldK | thx hiro-kobayashi | 09:16 |
| masahito | #topic Pike Blueprints | 09:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike Blueprints (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:16 | |
| masahito | I see hiro-kobayashi want to discuss some topics because of he added the agenda. | 09:17 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: want to start? | 09:17 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Yes. I’ve updated 2 blueprints. I want you to review them. | 09:17 |
| hiro-kobayashi | 1 on-end-options #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/on-end-options | 09:17 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | 2 terminate-lease-at-anytime #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/terminate-lease-at-anytime | 09:17 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | And I want to discuss 1 here | 09:18 |
| priteau | In Chameleon we use an on_end action to terminate instances | 09:18 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: Yes, so I want your feedback :-) | 09:19 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I'm thinking of 'How to specify the on-end option?' | 09:19 |
| priteau | But we've hardcoded it in the code. I think it should be something more flexible that can be chosen via config file | 09:19 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: +1 | 09:19 |
| hiro-kobayashi | 1 idea is 'By config value' | 09:19 |
| hiro-kobayashi | The other is 'By parameters of create/update lease request (REST API) | 09:20 |
| GeraldK | IMHO for Pike it would be okay to go with the easier approach. we can optimize later on. | 09:20 |
| hiro-kobayashi | GeraldK: +1. I think 'By config value' is easier. | 09:20 |
| GeraldK | if we can have options as listed in the BP that should be fine. | 09:20 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | Because 'By parameters of requests' needs modification of REST API | 09:21 |
| masahito | I prefer to config value because it doesn't need API schema changes. | 09:21 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: +1 | 09:21 |
| priteau | Actually some kind of on end action is necessary, because if an instance stays running on the node, blazar fails to end the lease properly | 09:21 |
| priteau | +1 masahito | 09:21 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Yes, so I will add actions in on_end() method | 09:22 |
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| masahito | And need to resolve on_end conflicting behaviors. | 09:22 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Then, I will adopt 'By config value' | 09:22 |
| GeraldK | masahito: which on-end conflicts do you forsee? | 09:22 |
| GeraldK | hiro-kobayashi: another option for on_end is "kill" | 09:23 |
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| masahito | GeraldK: For instance if user#1 specifies keep_running at on_end but default is terminating, how the reserved_host is treated? | 09:23 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | GeraldK: kill is same with 'delete' which I plan to do by default | 09:24 |
| masahito | after on_end. | 09:24 |
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| GeraldK | hiro-kobayashi: okay. got it. | 09:24 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: Yes, that is the big problem. | 09:24 |
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| GeraldK | masahito: what about removing "keep_running" from the list of options? | 09:25 |
| GeraldK | if the user wants to extend the lease, it should/could do an update lease to keep its resources running | 09:25 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | GeraldK: That make sense | 09:26 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:26 |
| masahito | GeraldK: it's reasonable. | 09:26 |
| GeraldK | on the "snapshot" option: this will take some time to create the snapshot so a) the snapshot must be triggered prior to end time or b) we need sufficient safety times between two leases | 09:27 |
| hiro-kobayashi | So, we don't allow any lease to block other leases | 09:27 |
| hiro-kobayashi | GeraldK: right | 09:27 |
| GeraldK | same issue for "migration". | 09:27 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | The period taken for snapshot/migration is not easy to predict, though | 09:28 |
| GeraldK | we should use a conservative time here. better to reserve too long time than too short. | 09:29 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | The time depends on instance size, how active the instance write on memory, and so on. | 09:29 |
| priteau | Transition between leases is a general problem with Blazar, we will need to work on it | 09:30 |
| GeraldK | if we assign 24h it should be sufficient :) | 09:30 |
| masahito | haha | 09:30 |
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| priteau | e.g. a lease with many nodes can take a long time to put back all hosts in the freepool | 09:30 |
| hiro-kobayashi | yeah | 09:30 |
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| masahito | priteau: right. I notice blazar polls every 10 sec. so | 09:30 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | There are still some critical problem that we should work on in long term. | 09:31 |
| masahito | It's needed to change something like push type event handling. | 09:31 |
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| GeraldK | can we add a safety_time as parameter the user can set, i.e. safety_time minutes prior to lease end the action will be triggered. if the action is not completed by the end of the release, then it's bad luck for the user. that is, it is in the responsibility of the user to plan for sufficient safety_time | 09:32 |
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| masahito | +1 | 09:32 |
| hiro-kobayashi | GeraldK: sounds good. | 09:33 |
| priteau | This will require API changes though? | 09:33 |
| GeraldK | most important for Pike IMHO is to have the delete running instances. the on_end actions are a nice addon. | 09:33 |
| masahito | I thought it's specified in config file. | 09:33 |
| hiro-kobayashi | How about implement it by config file for now? | 09:34 |
| priteau | then it is the admin who sets it, not the user? | 09:34 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: Yes, it should. | 09:34 |
| masahito | IMHO, first step of on_end options is delete instance, then snapshot or others are next steps. | 09:34 |
| GeraldK | it think that would be acceptable. | 09:34 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | Then I will start implementation from the first step | 09:35 |
| GeraldK | priteau: do you expect to have safety_times that largely defer from user to user? | 09:35 |
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| masahito | priteau: i think so. the admin notifies the safety_time to user and the user sets the end time including the time. | 09:36 |
| priteau | GeraldK: For snapshot it could be much higher for users with lots of data in their image | 09:36 |
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| GeraldK | priteau: okay. I guess you have some experiments with large data sets | 09:37 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | So, step 1: force delete all leases. step2: add options. step3: add safety_time in config_value. step4: add safety_time in REST API. | 09:38 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 09:39 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:39 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:39 |
| hiro-kobayashi | OK, thank you all! Now its clear and I can start implementation! | 09:39 |
| GeraldK | for migrate we may also need API change to specify location WHERE to migrate | 09:40 |
| GeraldK | so I propose to do that action with/after step 4 only | 09:40 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | GeraldK: +1. so only 'snapshot' option will be introduced for the first, right? | 09:41 |
| masahito | We could use Nova scheduler first b/c Nova choose some hosts when migration requests doesn't have a dest host. | 09:41 |
| masahito | Of course, it's just one idea. | 09:43 |
| GeraldK | masahito: good idea. this could be the default option if no dest host is specified | 09:43 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: A problem is VMs running on leased hosts may be bound to the AZ | 09:43 |
| hiro-kobayashi | The AZ is created per lease by Blazar, | 09:44 |
| masahito | IIRC, when blazar has admin role, admin user can specify any hosts. | 09:44 |
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| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: The scheduling happens b/c create instance API request body has 'scheduler hints' | 09:45 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: Got it | 09:46 |
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| masahito | anyway, please check it. and if it can't work, we can skip the feature in step2 | 09:46 |
| masahito | :-) | 09:46 |
| hiro-kobayashi | ok | 09:47 |
| hiro-kobayashi | That's all for what i want to discuss about Blueprints | 09:47 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: do you want to discuss BP#2? | 09:47 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | No, #2 is clear. | 09:47 |
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| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: got it. | 09:48 |
| masahito | Speaking of BP, I thought we need a place to discuss the details of each BP. | 09:48 |
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| masahito | Do you make sense to have spec repo for this purpose? | 09:48 |
| hiro-kobayashi | It's better | 09:49 |
| masahito | or have a dir in blazar repo. | 09:49 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | in blazar repo is easy. | 09:50 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | How about creating specs repo in blazar repo for now? | 09:50 |
| masahito | ok, I'll create the spec repo. | 09:50 |
| hiro-kobayashi | And create blazar-specs repo if we think we need it? | 09:50 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: thanks! | 09:51 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 09:51 |
| priteau | grepping through my local git clones, I see a couple of projects using doc/source/specs | 09:51 |
| priteau | ./diskimage-builder/doc/source/specs | 09:51 |
| priteau | ./python-openstackclient/doc/source/specs | 09:51 |
| priteau | bigger projects use a dedicated repo | 09:51 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: thanks. it looks better to create specs directory under doc/source | 09:52 |
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| masahito | Proc of having the dir under doc/source is the spec is published in readthedoc. | 09:53 |
| masahito | Proc of having the different repo is.... what? | 09:54 |
| hiro-kobayashi | clearly separate design process and impl process...? | 09:55 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: oh, yes. right. | 09:55 |
| priteau | masahito: also you can have specs for multi-repo projects | 09:56 |
| priteau | like ours, we have blazar, blazar-nova, python-blazarclient | 09:56 |
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| masahito | priteau: right. | 09:56 |
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| masahito | Putting specs under doc/source looks better now for me. | 09:58 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:58 |
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| masahito | because all of bp are related to only blazar repo. | 09:58 |
| masahito | anyway, I'll create some place to discuss. | 09:59 |
| masahito | last one min. | 09:59 |
| masahito | #AOB | 09:59 |
| masahito | #topic AOB | 09:59 |
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| masahito | do you all have another thing to discuss. | 10:00 |
| masahito | ? | 10:00 |
| GeraldK | do we need a new Etherpad page? | 10:00 |
| masahito | For Pike? | 10:00 |
| GeraldK | yes, e.g. for general discussion/planning for Pike and Q | 10:00 |
| masahito | sounds good. | 10:01 |
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| GeraldK | okay. I will create a Blazar_status_2017 page | 10:01 |
| masahito | ok, I created :-) | 10:01 |
| masahito | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Blazar_status_2017 | 10:02 |
| GeraldK | okay. thanks masahito. | 10:02 |
| hiro-kobayashi | thanks | 10:02 |
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| masahito | running out time. | 10:02 |
| masahito | thanks, all! | 10:03 |
| GeraldK | bye. thx | 10:03 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 10:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 10:03:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-03-07-09.00.html | 10:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-03-07-09.00.txt | 10:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-03-07-09.00.log.html | 10:03 |
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| * ccamacho jaja | 13:59 | |
| ccamacho | we were in the dark here | 13:59 |
| ccamacho | thanks | 13:59 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 14:00:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| EmilienM | * review past action items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Week roadmap | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | Anyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | o/ | 14:01 |
| jrist | o/ | 14:01 |
| shardy | o/ | 14:01 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:01 |
| radez | o/ | 14:01 |
| Ng | o/ | 14:01 |
| owalsh | o/ | 14:01 |
| marios | o/ | 14:01 |
| ccamacho | Hey TripleOers! (~˘▾˘)~ | 14:01 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | #topic review past action items | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | EmilienM to propose RC2 by end of next week: done (release yesterday). Note: final Ocata is pushed tomorrow. | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | team to make progress on reviewing Pike specs: still in progress | 14:02 |
| jaosorior | o/ | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | I plan to spend time on specs this week, but any help is welcome! | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "one off agenda items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:02 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | do we have any specific items to discuss ? | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | it seems like nope | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-1 | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | I moved all ocata-rc2 bugs to pike-1 | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | (see ML post about it) | 14:04 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | is there any specific bug to discuss this week? | 14:04 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 14:04 |
| matbu | o/ | 14:04 |
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| shardy | I had one, | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | sure, go ahead | 14:05 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1635409 | 14:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1635409 in tripleo "parameter_merge_strategies: merge behaves like overwrite" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 14:05 |
| shardy | So I discussed this with jistr recently, and took another look | 14:05 |
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| shardy | it's going to be tricky to fix as we have code in tripleoclient and tripleo-common which expects a merged environment | 14:05 |
| shardy | I'm going to start work on it, but one of the first changes is we have to remove user-environment.yaml | 14:05 |
| shardy | and instead store each environment | 14:06 |
| shardy | jtomasek: will that break the UI? | 14:06 |
| shardy | I'll need to push each environment into the environment list in the mistral environment | 14:06 |
| shardy | and store each file in swift | 14:06 |
| * jtomasek looks | 14:07 | |
| shardy | anyway, we don't have to get into details now, but I wanted to raise awareness that we'll need to make changes to fix this | 14:07 |
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| weshay | o/ | 14:07 |
| jpich | I think it might work *better* with the UI, if they're enabled via the 'environments' key in the Mistral env (aka fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1642583 at the same time :)) | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1642583 in tripleo "When deploying from the CLI the GUI doesn't show the environments that were used" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:07 |
| shardy | I hope it'll fit quite well with the plan-envrionment stuff already in-progress | 14:07 |
| shardy | jpich: OK, great, that's basically what we need I think | 14:07 |
| shardy | a list of environments, which we then pass to heat | 14:08 |
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| shardy | that will work the same with plan-environment, so we need to figure out if I should base my changes on that vs the mistral environment | 14:08 |
| jtomasek | shardy, it will deffinitely not break UI, I think it will actually fix one of the big compatibility problems of CLI and GUI | 14:08 |
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| jpich | Sounds great to me, thanks for raising it | 14:09 |
| shardy | jtomasek: Ok, great - I'll spend some more time on then and ask you to review the tripleo-common changes when they're ready | 14:09 |
| jtomasek | shardy, thanks | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | great, anything else? | 14:09 |
| radez | EmilienM: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tacker-service-integration this was completed the same time congress was completed and is in ocata already. I see that it got labled pike. was that intentional? | 14:09 |
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| radez | not a bug, but in the link you posted a bit a go | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | radez: moving it to ocata | 14:10 |
| radez | thx | 14:10 |
| jtomasek | shardy, you probably want to use existing action in tripleo-common - to update list of environments | 14:10 |
| shardy | jtomasek: Ok, then the change to plan-environment should be transparent? | 14:11 |
| jtomasek | shardy, yes | 14:11 |
| shardy | excellent, thanks :) | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | any other bug before we move on? | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | shardy: thanks for this one | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | #topic projects releases or stable backports | 14:12 |
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| EmilienM | so we are releasing tripleo ocata final this week | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | wouhoo | 14:13 |
| jpich | yay | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | if you need to backport bugfixes, make sure they are reported in launchpad first and mentionned in the commit message | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | is there any specific question or comment about release management? | 14:13 |
| jpich | This is kinda early days still but... do we have an idea when will be the first stable release for ocata? :-) | 14:14 |
| jpich | Context: A few volunteers contributed translations to tripleo-ui, but as we found and fixed i18n issues the translation ratios dropped. I'd like to let the i18n team know we've stabilised now, and what's the deadline if they want to be included in our next point release. | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | jpich: I don't think we planned it yet, but we could do it next week if you want | 14:14 |
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| EmilienM | I mean, you could even do it yourself for tripleo-ui | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | submit a patch in openstack/releases (but before patch packages.json and reno conf.py) | 14:15 |
| jpich | Ok, so we're pretty flexible with stable releases then? Even for deliverables | 14:15 |
| jpich | Excellent, that's helpful to know. Thanks! | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | I think so yes | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | anything else about releases? | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | the upgrade jobs on stable/ocata are voting | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | but the upgrade jobs on master are non voting for now, until we fix some issues with tripleo-ci repo when upgrading to pike | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | please don't ignore the upgrade jobs on master though, they should pass (I tested last night) | 14:17 |
| adarazs | I'd like to announce it/remind everybody that we're planning to switch over a set of jobs to be driven by Quickstart on Monday, 13th of March. | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | adarazs: ok, Monday next week then. Can you share the list? | 14:18 |
| adarazs | it's the scenario jobs for now. | 14:18 |
| adarazs | if we finish with it, also some OVB jobs. | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | are they stable? | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | when you say "scenario jobs", do you also mean scenario upgrades jobs? | 14:19 |
| adarazs | I think they were running successfully on tripleo-ci for a while. | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | adarazs: they run pingtest right? (and not tempest) | 14:19 |
| sshnaidm | adarazs, oooq scenario jobs on tripleo-ci? | 14:20 |
| adarazs | yes, I think they are running pingtest. | 14:20 |
| panda|zZ | yes, they ar | 14:20 |
| panda|zZ | e | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | just to make sure, we plan to switch the multinode-scenario001,002,003,004 but not the upgrades ones right? | 14:20 |
| adarazs | hm, I am not sure about the state of the upgrade jobs. I saw a couple of outstanding reviews for them and I'm not sure they will be merged by Monday if they go with the same pace as they did so far. | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | we can wait for the upgrade jobs | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | step by step :) | 14:21 |
| weshay | no changes will be made to the upgrade jobs on Monday | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | I would start by multinode jobs next week, and the week after OVB , etc etc | 14:21 |
| adarazs | okay. | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | baby steps | 14:21 |
| panda|zZ | yeah, falling down and screaming a lot | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | :D | 14:21 |
| adarazs | heh | 14:21 |
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| shardy | lol :) | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | any question or info about CI to share? | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:22 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | so like we said before, a lot of Pike specs are still under review | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | if you have some time to review them, that would be appreciated | 14:23 |
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| EmilienM | is there anyone who wants to talk about a specific spec? | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:23 |
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| EmilienM | I'll be afk tomorrow and Thursday, I'm going to Boston for OpenStack TC / UC / Board meetings | 14:24 |
| weshay | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/increase-cadence-of-tripleo-promotions It's not 100% clear to me how we can accomplish this w/o getting in trouble w/ openstack infra | 14:24 |
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| weshay | looking for suggestions | 14:24 |
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| mwhahaha | why would we get in trouble with infra? | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | weshay: so, like we said at PTG, we need to ask infra if we can have a new pipeline | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | AFIK pabelanger was saying we could create a new one | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | and if it's not the case, we could handle promotion jobs in RDO CI like we did for Puppet OpenStack | 14:25 |
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| weshay | ok.. that is good news.. I was not able to attend the PTG | 14:25 |
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| EmilienM | weshay: please kick off a discussion on openstack dev | 14:26 |
| weshay | will do, thanks | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | weshay: and include [infra] and [tripleo] | 14:26 |
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| EmilienM | anything else for this week? | 14:27 |
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| EmilienM | thanks everyone for your presence and your hard work! see you online | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 14:27:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-03-07-14.00.html | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-03-07-14.00.txt | 14:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-03-07-14.00.log.html | 14:28 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 15:11:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:11 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | let's see who is around ... | 15:12 |
| tmorin | hi doude, bobmel, lhinds, pcarver, timirnich...? (bgpvpn weekly IRC) | 15:13 |
| weshay | Gabriele Cerami's move to Ireland | 15:13 |
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| weshay | sry | 15:13 |
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| lhinds | hi tmorin | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | hi luke | 15:13 |
| lhinds | i will ping ricardo, once sec. | 15:13 |
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| bobmel | hi | 15:14 |
| tmorin | lhinds: nothing "mandatory", but you haden't really been invited to come to this weekly meeting before, and I thought we might discuss/mention the puppet/tripleo work in progress | 15:14 |
| tmorin | hi bobmel | 15:14 |
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| lhinds | makes sense tmorin , I think rnoriega should be here as well (although he has a meeting in parallel) | 15:16 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, lhinds, here... but not 100% | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | hi rnoriega / np I'm just taking the opportunity of the weekly meeting to mention your puppet/tripleo work | 15:17 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, awesome. Thank you very much. | 15:17 |
| tmorin | we'll wait a bit to see who else would come, but we aren't always many | 15:18 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, any question so far?? | 15:18 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, nice. | 15:18 |
| tmorin | nope, we're just starting | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | ok, let's start | 15:20 |
| tmorin | we're just me, bobmel, lhinds, rnoriega | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | here is a proposed "agenda" (light, this week) | 15:21 |
| tmorin | a) API evolutions for Pike | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | b) work in progress on puppet+tripleo packaging | 15:22 |
| tmorin | c) bagpipe driver work in progress | 15:22 |
| tmorin | any suggestion ? | 15:22 |
| tmorin | #topic API evolution for Pike | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | not much has been discussed in the past week | 15:23 |
| tmorin | we'll need more feedback so that it can advance efficiently | 15:24 |
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| tmorin | see in particular: | 15:24 |
| tmorin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_port_routes | 15:24 |
| tmorin | and | 15:24 |
| tmorin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_advanced_features | 15:24 |
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| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:24 |
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| tmorin | #topic work in progress on puppet+tripleo packaging | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "work in progress on puppet+tripleo packaging (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:25 | |
| tmorin | I wanted to mention here that rnoriega has been working on puppet and tripleo packaging of networking-bgpvpn | 15:25 |
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| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:rnoriega%2540redhat.com+and+message:bgpvpn | 15:26 |
| tmorin | this is expected to land for Pike, right, rnoriega ? | 15:26 |
| rnoriega | as an update to the community, the networking-bgpvpn is well in progress. | 15:26 |
| bobmel | nice! | 15:26 |
| tmorin | yes, this is really nice to see this support arrive ! | 15:26 |
| rnoriega | bagpipe driver is coming as the reference architecture, so we need to integrate it as well in tripleo in order to get the blueprint implemented | 15:27 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, yes. It's planned for Pike | 15:27 |
| tmorin | rnoriega: ok! | 15:27 |
| rnoriega | I have two main concernes | 15:27 |
| rnoriega | from the perspective of TripleO, integrating bagpipe would require installing the proper package (networking-bagpipe) and do all the configuration via puppet | 15:28 |
| rnoriega | do you think is it feaseable to start that integration eventhough the bagpipe code is still not ported to the right repo??? | 15:29 |
| rnoriega | my second concern is about TripleO CI testing. But that could be discussed in a future meeting | 15:29 |
| tmorin | rnoriega: I'm actively working on merging bagpipe-bgp into networking-bagpipe, so hopefully that will help | 15:30 |
| tmorin | rnoriega: the location/format of configuration files will *not* change, so file templates could be started now | 15:31 |
| lhinds | rnoriega: you can bring tmorin onto the reviews, and he can check vars / paths etc, i think that should help | 15:31 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, awesome. So next week I'll start with bagpipe TripleO integration | 15:31 |
| tmorin | rnoriega: no new python package will be added to networking_bagpipe, bagpipe_bgp will be included there as a submodule | 15:31 |
| rnoriega | lhinds, yes! that's a good idea. I'll be adding tmorin to every patch as reviewer | 15:32 |
| tmorin | rnoriega: cool! I'll have a look and raise warning whenever I find things that would be impacted by the migraion of bagpipe-bgp into networking-bagpipe | 15:32 |
| tmorin | tmorin: works for me | 15:32 |
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| rnoriega | tmorin, lhinds, it's all set then! | 15:33 |
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| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver | 15:34 |
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| tmorin | well, the key thing has been said above | 15:34 |
| tmorin | work is in progress to merge bagpipe-bgp into networking-bagpipe | 15:34 |
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| bobmel | have you figured out how to get the git history? | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | yes | 15:35 |
| tmorin | this has been done nicely | 15:35 |
| tmorin | we have a feature/bagpipe_bgp_merge branch in networking-bagpipe repo | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | in this branch all the code from bagpipe-bgp github has is included, with the history, under bagpipe_bgp directory | 15:36 |
| tmorin | I already have a few change in flight to move this code and other files in the right places | 15:36 |
| tmorin | one unseen piece of work has appeared: now that exabgp will be a clean dependency of networking-bagpipe (instead of an embedded fork), it is supposed to be python3 friendly | 15:36 |
| tmorin | and this is actually significant work, even to get only the unit tests working, because exabgp is not currently python3-friendly at all | 15:37 |
| bobmel | oh, i see | 15:37 |
| tmorin | but the authors would be happy to receive python3 fixes | 15:37 |
| tmorin | so I'm working on improving exabgp python3 support at least up to a point where networking-bagpipe unit test pass | 15:38 |
| tmorin | and improving python3 support in bagpipe-bgp at the same time | 15:38 |
| tmorin | rnoriega, lhinds: I hadn't anticipated this, but hopefully, this will advance fast enough as well | 15:39 |
| rnoriega | tmorin, ack | 15:39 |
| tmorin | #topic open discussion | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | anything else to discuss today ? | 15:40 |
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| lhinds | not from me | 15:41 |
| bobmel | not from either | 15:42 |
| tmorin | ok, we're done for today then! | 15:42 |
| tmorin | by everyone! | 15:42 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 15:42:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| bobmel | Bye | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-03-07-15.11.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-03-07-15.11.txt | 15:42 |
| lhinds | thx * | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-03-07-15.11.log.html | 15:42 |
| lhinds | o/ | 15:42 |
| rnoriega | \o/ | 15:42 |
| rnoriega | thank you tmorin ! | 15:43 |
| tmorin | o/ | 15:43 |
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| strigazi | team? | 16:00 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 16:01:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-03-07_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:01 |
| Drago | o/ | 16:01 |
| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:01 |
| hieulq_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| jvgrant_ | Jaycen Grant | 16:01 |
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| coreyob | Corey O'Brien | 16:02 |
| yatinkarel | o/ | 16:02 |
| vijendar | o/ | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | hello Drago strigazi hieulq_ jvgrant_ coreyob yatinkarel and vijendar | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | we do not have prepared announcements for today. Any announcements from team members? | 16:03 |
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| strigazi | gate-experimental-functional-dsvm-magnum-k8s-multinode-ubuntu-xenial I'm waiting for this :) | 16:03 |
| strigazi | multinode gate | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | when is that expected, strigazi ? | 16:04 |
| strigazi | It's merged and a job is running as we speak | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | how exciting!! | 16:04 |
| strigazi | I hope it will improve our ci | 16:04 |
| jvgrant_ | nice! | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | indeed. | 16:05 |
| yatinkarel | strigazi, So with multinode cluster loadbalancer | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | it's election day (again) in the US | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | at least it is in California, for local elections | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's move on | 16:05 |
| strigazi | we might be able to test lbaas, but let's wait | 16:05 |
| yatinkarel | strigazi, Ok | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | (none) | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprints | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes Flatten Attributes [strigazi] | 16:06 |
| strigazi | As I was moving forward with this I realized that we move all the fields from CT to cluster. The problem is we don't want all there fields | 16:07 |
| strigazi | eg apiport | 16:07 |
| strigazi | the Driver resource will have a blob | 16:07 |
| strigazi | and cluster will have a bunch of attrs that not all drivers need | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | right | 16:08 |
| strigazi | Should we procceed this way? | 16:08 |
| strigazi | thoughts? | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | we should first flatten what we have into Cluster | 16:09 |
| jvgrant_ | adrian_otto: +1, i think we should do this in steps. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | then reduce that list as a secondary effort with the driver config | 16:09 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:09 |
| Drago | The alternative would be to implement driver config first | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | try not to conflate too many things together | 16:09 |
| strigazi | one more thing regarding small patches | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | strigazi: do you have a sense which ordering would be more efficient in terms of work? | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | my gut sense was that flatten attributes first would advance us sooner toward the vision | 16:11 |
| strigazi | I was thinking to break the patch in pieces and instead of adding new db migrations iterating on the latest one to reach the desired schema | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | that sounds okay to me | 16:11 |
| strigazi | others? | 16:11 |
| Drago | Which migrations? | 16:12 |
| strigazi | Eg I could drop the _id suffix in a later patch and first move the attributes with the current names to cluster | 16:13 |
| strigazi | then | 16:13 |
| strigazi | in the same migration reduce the number of attributes to a dict | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: can you explain why you want the migration steps to be compressed in that way? | 16:14 |
| strigazi | basically ClusterAttributes is our dict | 16:14 |
| Drago | Are you saying blobify our attributes now? | 16:14 |
| strigazi | As a second step | 16:14 |
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| strigazi | adrian_otto to avoid schema transformations since it's one feature. This was the initial plan. | 16:15 |
| strigazi | I haven't investigated if transformations affect performance | 16:16 |
| Drago | This might make migrating attributes to nodegroups harder | 16:16 |
| strigazi | Drago the blob? | 16:16 |
| strigazi | or migrations? | 16:16 |
| Drago | yes | 16:16 |
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| strigazi | ok | 16:16 |
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| Drago | But maybe not much harder, just something to consider | 16:17 |
| Drago | If attributes are in a blob in the db, you'll have to write something that moves them out into the nodegroup attribute blob | 16:17 |
| strigazi | OK, seems that I'll lose time on that. I'll move with the proposed approach and move all attributes to cluster_attributes | 16:18 |
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| adrian_otto | any more remarks on the Flatten Attribute blueprint today? | 16:19 |
| Drago | We should concentrate on the nodegroup migrations as early as we can | 16:19 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: before Driver + config? | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | juggler: hi | 16:20 |
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| Drago | That's a good question, because they'll affect each other | 16:20 |
| juggler | adrian_otto: hello | 16:20 |
| Drago | I'll have to think on it more, some other time | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: right. | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nodegroups [Drago] | 16:21 |
| Drago | No update from me, I've just been chasing Kubernetes bugs... | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster Upgrades [strigazi] | 16:21 |
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| Drago | Heh, anything from you jvgrant_? | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Drago | 16:21 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439849/ | 16:22 |
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| jvgrant_ | not on nodegroups, created a WIP spec for driver resource though that will be needed by nodegroups and cluster upgrades | 16:22 |
| jvgrant_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439849/ | 16:22 |
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| Drago | Nice! | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | yes, indeed. Nice start. | 16:23 |
| juggler | wtg jvgrant_ | 16:24 |
| jvgrant_ | should have an update today or tomorrow, then is should be ready to remove WIP | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | good progress. | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | Any more questions, remarks, or discussion on the subject of Cluster Upgrades? | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | Other Work Items | 16:26 |
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| adrian_otto | (attendees may identify any work items needing team discussion now) | 16:26 |
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| Drago | PTG recap on the ML | 16:27 |
| Drago | Heat did one | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | Yes, I can take an action item for that | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to publish a PTG summary to our ML | 16:28 |
| Drago | Thanks! | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | my pleasure | 16:28 |
| strigazi | Would Would someone be interested in debugging the multinode job? | 16:28 |
| yatinkarel | strigazi, i can look | 16:29 |
| strigazi | We need some changes in how we run the tests. | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | did it fail? | 16:29 |
| strigazi | The setup was complete | 16:29 |
| strigazi | but we might need to change how we trigger the tests | 16:29 |
| strigazi | or some other config | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | ok thanks yatinkarel for stepping up | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:31 |
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| adrian_otto | I have two notes from previous meetings | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | one is about changing to cycle-with-milestones | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | nobody has raised any concerns about that change | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | so I'm planning to submit the patches to change it | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | see me if you have concerns | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | the second is about the architecture diagram we have on our wiki page | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | danil, one of our contributors worked on an updated version | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | but I don't think we have the source document that generated the image in order to pick up and finish that work | 16:33 |
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| adrian_otto | so we might need to start over | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | thgouths? | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts? | 16:34 |
| Drago | I have a powerpoint slide of the diagram that I did for the OSA workshop | 16:34 |
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| Drago | If I remember correctly, it's pretty close to what danil had and you and randall gave feedback on it | 16:34 |
| juggler | is there a link somewhere to the image? | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | juggler: http://imgur.com/a/af5BP | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | that's the proposed revision | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | we have another problem as well | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | the wiki will not allow for any new images to be uploaded at all | 16:35 |
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| Drago | Well that's dumb | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | so if we do put up a new image, it can't be in-line, it would need to be a link to a diagram | 16:35 |
| strigazi | I have a not so attractive diagram in slide number 3 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18v8iJkamBGfSamuaVTm8BqGAQGXtf7fV7PxPbCxKcJs/edit#slide=id.g20c51cee01_0_409 | 16:36 |
| juggler | that's peculiar | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | yeah, that's a battle we need to take up with the wiki maintainers | 16:36 |
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| Drago | I think we should talk to them, because that's just silly | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | file uploads were disabled in response to abuse | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | but we should come up with some way to whitelist users who are allowed to. | 16:37 |
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| juggler | any idea what app the original used to make the diagram? Dia? other? | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | or temporarily enable the feature while we make changes, and disable it again when we are done | 16:38 |
| juggler | original developer | 16:38 |
| Drago | Here's mine http://imgur.com/AxQ8uPY | 16:38 |
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| Drago | We can update the colors or whatever. I can email you adrian_otto | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: I like that one | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | tx | 16:39 |
| swatson_ | yeah the sharp red vs blue is a little harsh to me | 16:39 |
| juggler | a little :) | 16:39 |
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| juggler | red aside, it's a great diagram | 16:39 |
| swatson_ | ^ | 16:39 |
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| Drago | Magnum too much for you?? | 16:39 |
| juggler | hehe | 16:40 |
| juggler | red=stop | 16:40 |
| juggler | lol | 16:40 |
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| Drago | adrian_otto: Sent! | 16:41 |
| strigazi | I think we should add the native clients somehow | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | tx Drago | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: good suggestion | 16:41 |
| juggler | thx Drago | 16:41 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: If you find updating it to be a pain, I can do it | 16:41 |
| strigazi | + DC/OS + Cluster Driver | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | I know how to use powerpoint ;-) | 16:41 |
| yatinkarel | Drago, little update to base OS supported currently, rkt/docker etc | 16:41 |
| strigazi | + baremetal | 16:42 |
| yatinkarel | ubuntu meos is missing | 16:42 |
| juggler | what's powerpoint? :) | 16:42 |
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| adrian_otto | juggler: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain | 16:43 |
| Drago | yatinkarel: Oh, sure. I mostly fixed the current arch image, changing it as little as possible. It should be updated with more generic things | 16:43 |
| yatinkarel | Drago, +1 yes we can incorporate at least what magnum supports currently | 16:44 |
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| yatinkarel | and update as magnum advances | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: received. | 16:45 |
| vijendar | I have a patch in review for last few weeks. could you guys take a look and let me know your comments https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427507/ | 16:45 |
| Drago | That poor patch... | 16:45 |
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| Drago | What tests are flaking? | 16:46 |
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| vijendar | Drago: without this patch admin operations wouldn't work | 16:48 |
| vijendar | Drago: or at least would not work correctly | 16:48 |
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| Drago | Right | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | ok, should we end a little early today? | 16:51 |
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| juggler | Did Drago get an answer to his earlier q? | 16:51 |
| Drago | I can't remember the question so it must not have been that important | 16:51 |
| strigazi | Drago> What tests are flaking? | 16:52 |
| Drago | Unless it was about flaking tests. I'll just ask vijendar directly | 16:52 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: I think so | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | ok, pausing for just more more moment... | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | Thanks for attending everyone. Our next team meeting will be at 1600 UTC on 2017-03-14 in #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:53 |
| strigazi | ο/ | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 16:53:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-03-07-16.01.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-03-07-16.01.txt | 16:53 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-03-07-16.01.log.html | 16:53 |
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| juggler | thanks for presiding adrian_otto | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | :-) | 16:55 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 17:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is felipemonteiro_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| felipemonteiro_ | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | o/ | 17:00 |
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| learnmore | o/ | 17:00 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | Hi learnmore | 17:02 |
| learnmore | Hello. | 17:03 |
| learnmore | I assume you heard about the proposal to drop the openstack application catalog, yes? | 17:03 |
| felipemonteiro_ | Yes, I did, despite its popularity. | 17:04 |
| felipemonteiro_ | #topic Announcements | 17:04 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | Just wanted to mention I'm working on official murano install guide here: #topic Announcements | 17:04 |
| felipemonteiro_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441611/ | 17:04 |
| learnmore | That is good news. | 17:05 |
| learnmore | I'll take a look at it later. | 17:05 |
| felipemonteiro_ | And zhurong has begun working on murano api docs here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441835/ | 17:05 |
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| learnmore | Good to know. Another important document. | 17:05 |
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| learnmore | What was the application catalog session at the ptg like? Was it well attended? | 17:06 |
| felipemonteiro_ | #topic Open Discussion | 17:06 |
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| tovin07 | hello | 17:07 |
| learnmore | welcome tovin07 | 17:07 |
| felipemonteiro_ | tovin07: Hi :) | 17:07 |
| tovin07 | recently, I proposed this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/osprofiler-support-in-murano | 17:07 |
| tovin07 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/osprofiler-support-in-murano | 17:08 |
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| tovin07 | hope that you guys will take a look and approve it :D | 17:08 |
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| learnmore | tovin0..you should change the approver to Felipe | 17:09 |
| felipemonteiro_ | tovin07: Let me take a look | 17:09 |
| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: any update on my blueprint as far as approval? | 17:10 |
| learnmore | This one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/devicename-from-volume-attachment | 17:11 |
| tovin07 | felipemonteiro_: thanks! | 17:11 |
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| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: I also added you as an approver for this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/app-use-existing-security-group | 17:12 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | tovin07: Thanks for creating this bp, I've gone ahead and approved it. | 17:12 |
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| tovin07 | Thank you! | 17:13 |
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| tovin07 | I will publish patch sets related to this bp soon | 17:13 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | learnmore: Thanks for reminding me, I've also approved it. | 17:17 |
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| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: Thank you! | 17:17 |
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| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: When you have a chance, can you take a look at/approve the security group blueprint too? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/app-use-existing-security-group | 17:20 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | learnmore: Let me check | 17:23 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | learnmore: This would require changes to muranodashboard and murano pl. I see no problem with allowing a current application to specify an already-existing security group for it to join. | 17:28 |
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| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: so you will approve the blueprint? | 17:30 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | learnmore: Sure. May you also add https://answers.launchpad.net/murano/+question/403890 to the bp somewhere. | 17:33 |
| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: Yes, I will. | 17:33 |
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| learnmore | How was the application catalog session at the ptg? Well attended? What was the discussion/questions like? | 17:35 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | learnmore: Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to go because I was caught up with QA-related meetings. | 17:39 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | By the looks of it though there probably weren't many who attended | 17:41 |
| learnmore | That's too bad. On another note, I did exchange e-mail with Stan Lagun last night. The model builder feature is to support the old UI when/if the new UI is implemented. He pointed me to the spec for the new UI. | 17:41 |
| learnmore | Sp sto;; dpm | 17:42 |
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| learnmore | So still don't have a lot of detail on it. But at least I know it is for the existing apps. | 17:42 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | Yeah, the new UI though requires a lot of client-side code, currently no one's supporting it upstream | 17:44 |
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| learnmore | Agreed...the new UI is a big change. | 17:45 |
| learnmore | That's all I have for this meeting. Thanks for approving my blueprints. | 17:46 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | No problem...if no one else has anything else to discuss, we can end a bit early. | 17:47 |
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| felipemonteiro_ | Ok thanks everyone who joined | 17:51 |
| felipemonteiro_ | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 19:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-03-07 | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | Let's start ... | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | #topic Displaying RefStack documentation | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | so mguiney: had merged the 2 specs into one .. Thanks! | 19:05 |
| luzC | o/ | 19:05 |
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| catherineD | #topic Action items from last week: | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: Investigate whether docutils can be used for more basic html to match RefStack site's look&feel | 19:06 |
| catherineD | any update? | 19:06 |
| mguiney | yes, and i just saw the new comments on the last patch i uploaded, so i will go make the mentioned changes asap | 19:06 |
| pvaneck | catherineD: sorry didnt get a chance to investigate last week. will do so this week | 19:07 |
| catherineD | mguiney: thx .. just wait for after the meeting .. we may have to add more inf | 19:07 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: no problem ... | 19:07 |
| catherineD | luzC: Investigate how documentation team hosting and converting the rst to html | 19:08 |
| catherineD | any update? | 19:08 |
| luzC | yes, they are using sphinx https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/project-install-guide.html | 19:08 |
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| luzC | each project implement a tox venv with sphinx and have a gate job to build the documentation I only looked at install/deployment guidelines... | 19:10 |
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| catherineD | ic .. but the hosted in an independent website, and that is the look & feel for them .. sphinx is built into RefStack but witrh diff look & feel | 19:10 |
| catherineD | luzC: the gate job run each time there are changed to the RST doc ? | 19:11 |
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| luzC | I didn't dig that deep... not sure how ofter the job is run | 19:13 |
| luzC | *often | 19:13 |
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| Rocky_g | o/ | 19:14 |
| catherineD | I see that Anne Gentle is one of the lead for API document ...https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/team-structure.html | 19:14 |
| catherineD | Rocky_g: hello agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-03-07 | 19:15 |
| catherineD | we are discussing the best way to host RefStack doc | 19:15 |
| catherineD | Let's wait for pvaneck: 's evaluation next week ... to see how big a job it is .. | 19:16 |
| Rocky_g | Supposedly the job is run on every gate. | 19:17 |
| catherineD | if it make sense for us tocreate tools ourself for RefStack ... | 19:17 |
| catherineD | Rocky_g: the different also is that those docs are hosted on the openstack doc website ... where as we want to host RefStack docs at RefStack website ... | 19:18 |
| Rocky_g | We should be able to repolace our sphynx with oslo sphynx? we should do a quick test. I bet we can change the target of where to deploy | 19:18 |
| catherineD | on the other hand, I really do not want us to create one-off tool | 19:18 |
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| catherineD | Rocky_g: the look and feel of the html create by sphynx is very differnent from what we have at the RefStack site ... | 19:19 |
| Rocky_g | especially since refstack is in o.o domain | 19:19 |
| catherineD | that is one of the reason why we think we want to create our own tool to convert the RST to HTML ... | 19:20 |
| Rocky_g | Yeah, I would thing just having separate style files would work. | 19:20 |
| Rocky_g | takse oslo.sphynx and then import our style files | 19:20 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: what do you think of using out own style with sphynx .. not sure that works with angular ? | 19:22 |
| catherineD | out -> our | 19:23 |
| pvaneck | sphinx generates some beefy html files that are meant to be standalone html pages | 19:24 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: yea .. | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | if we do use them, they would have to separate from the angular component of our website | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | which begs the question if you even want them directly on refstack.openstack.org | 19:24 |
| catherineD | make senses ... | 19:25 |
| Rocky_g | definitely need as consult with annegent_ I think | 19:25 |
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| catherineD | Rocky_g: luzC: the diff is the doc team hosts their docs at an indepenent website ... | 19:25 |
| catherineD | Rocky_g: yup | 19:25 |
| catherineD | I will contact her | 19:26 |
| catherineD | I think this is not a top priority item ... since the doc currently are accessible via link to the RST site .. it is not pretty but the information is there | 19:26 |
| catherineD | let's take time to do the right direction .. | 19:27 |
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| catherineD | Let's revisit next week after pvaneck: does some investigation .. | 19:27 |
| * mguiney nods | 19:27 | |
| mguiney | makes sense | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | alright moving on ... | 19:28 |
| catherineD | #topic Update existing certified data with the verified flag | 19:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update existing certified data with the verified flag (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:28 | |
| catherineD | mguiney: any update? | 19:29 |
| mguiney | yes, actually! | 19:29 |
| mguiney | in scripting this task, i have come across a phenomena which makes it rather difficult to determine whether the cited result link is valid/the test result exists | 19:30 |
| mguiney | the issue is that, when you follow links to a test result that doesnt exist, rather than 404'ing out, it returns a 200 code, despite citing 400 on the page. | 19:31 |
| mguiney | the root of this issue is that the visible 404 code is on the page under a "sr-only" header, which means that it is visible only to eyes and screen readers | 19:32 |
| catherineD | are yo using the API URL? | 19:32 |
| catherineD | for example if the link is https://refstack.openstack.org/#/results/72e7b554-2c6a-4c2a-bda8-36b4764036b3 | 19:32 |
| mguiney | yes. | 19:33 |
| catherineD | the API url would be https://refstack.openstack.org/api/v1/results/72e7b554-2c6a-4c2a-bda8-36b4764036b3 | 19:33 |
| Rocky_g | That seems like a serious design flaw. | 19:33 |
| pvaneck | when I try it, a 404 return code is given for nonexistent test results | 19:35 |
| mguiney | looks like that should fix the issue, and it will be a trivial change to make to the code, so that should solve things! | 19:35 |
| pvaneck | ah okay | 19:35 |
| catherineD | here is my response json : { code: 404, title: "Test result 72e7b554-2c6a-4c2a-bda8-36b4764036b2 not found" } | 19:35 |
| mguiney | same here, it looks like since i was pulling from the spreadsheet, i forgot to change the url to the api url | 19:36 |
| catherineD | mguiney: yea I think so | 19:36 |
| mguiney | excellent. that will make it an easy issue to fix | 19:37 |
| catherineD | yea the user only gives the UI link to Chris ... yup that make sense | 19:37 |
| catherineD | mguiney: great | 19:37 |
| Rocky_g | Not a design flaw ;-) | 19:38 |
| catherineD | this is a very import item ... since we can only discuss data retention policy at RefStack after we are able to marked the vendor verified results for keeping | 19:38 |
| catherineD | mguiney: thanks for working on this .. | 19:39 |
| catherineD | any other discussion on this one ? | 19:40 |
| mguiney | it's a very interesting task, thank you for allowing me to work on it | 19:40 |
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| mguiney | well given the modifications i will be able to make, i should hopefully be able to get it to full functionality by next week | 19:40 |
| mguiney | it is almost there already, but there are a few wrinkles and additional tests to iron out | 19:41 |
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| catherineD | mguiney: thx so much .. it is a very important task but it involve vendor info so it only make sense for someone from the Foundaion to do it .. | 19:41 |
| * mguiney nods | 19:42 | |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:42 |
| catherineD | #topic RefStack webstite update | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | first of all, does everyone see the RefStack mascot ( the bee) on the site? | 19:43 |
| mguiney | yep! | 19:43 |
| catherineD | I really like it! | 19:43 |
| Rocky_g | high five! | 19:44 |
| catherineD | so we will update the site on Friday .. mainly to update the openstack logo .. | 19:44 |
| * catherineD nobs | 19:44 | |
| catherineD | nods :-) | 19:44 |
| catherineD | luzC: I am not sure this one is ready https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390881/ | 19:45 |
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| catherineD | as I remember we are waiting for the defcore repo to be renamed to interop-wg ... | 19:45 |
| catherineD | I do not think it is done .. | 19:46 |
| luzC | no, still waiting | 19:46 |
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| catherineD | alright no hurry ... we can make that update next time | 19:47 |
| luzC | i need to add a depends-on to this patch... | 19:47 |
| catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:47 |
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| Rocky_g | If the patch is ready, I can go ping infra for a date for defcore to interop | 19:48 |
| catherineD | I think we have discussed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390881/ ( Change doc references from DefCore to Interop Working Group ) | 19:48 |
| catherineD | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437175/ ( updated spec to reflect discussion from 2/28/17 refstack meeting ) | 19:48 |
| catherineD | Rocky_g: I think DefCore patch is not ready .. | 19:48 |
| luzC | I think defcore patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433414/ | 19:49 |
| luzC | **at infra/project-config | 19:49 |
| catherineD | luzC: thanks for the link ... yea we need to wait for that patch to merge | 19:50 |
| catherineD | #link Rename DefCore Committee -> Interop WG ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433414/ ) | 19:50 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:51 |
| catherineD | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430701/ ( Add scripts for running refstack-client in docker ) | 19:51 |
| catherineD | This is from Sergey ... I am having problem bring up a refstack-client container ... I have left a message | 19:52 |
| catherineD | if you have time please help review this one | 19:53 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:53 |
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| luzC | I'll try later this week, need some time to test it | 19:53 |
| catherineD | luzC: thx | 19:53 |
| catherineD | anything else to discuss today ? | 19:54 |
| luzC | yes, reading email thread... http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113269.html | 19:54 |
| luzC | goals: goal-deploy-api-in-wsgi | 19:55 |
| luzC | goal-python35 ... for refstack I guess only the second one applies... | 19:55 |
| luzC | is it everything ok with goal-python35? | 19:55 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: I recall you were doing some test with 35? | 19:56 |
| pvaneck | I will revist getting the functional tests working with python 3.5 | 19:56 |
| pvaneck | was blocked by pycrypto issues last time | 19:56 |
| catherineD | luzC: BTW, THANKS so much for keep an eye on this for us ... | 19:57 |
| catherineD | #action pvaneck: revisit getting the functional tests working with python 3.5 | 19:57 |
| luzC | NP ;) | 19:57 |
| catherineD | #linl Community Goals for Pike thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113269.html | 19:58 |
| catherineD | #link Community Goals for Pike thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113269.html | 19:58 |
| catherineD | any other comments? | 19:59 |
| catherineD | alright let's end the meeting ... | 19:59 |
| catherineD | thanks everyone ... | 20:00 |
| catherineD | bye | 20:00 |
| mguiney | have a good day! | 20:00 |
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| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-03-07-19.00.html | 20:00 |
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