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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 09:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 8 09:59:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 09:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:00 |
| tonyb | Oh phooey 4seconds early | 10:00 |
| prometheanfire | for shame | 10:00 |
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| tonyb | sigmavirus, number80, coolsvap, toabctl | 10:00 |
| tonyb | sigmavirus, number80, coolsvap, toabctl: ping | 10:00 |
| tonyb | #topic rollcall | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:01 | |
| tonyb | I'm pretty sure dirk is on leave this week so we don't have him | 10:01 |
| tonyb | anyone else? | 10:01 |
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| tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 10:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any controversies in the Queue? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:04 | |
| tonyb | Well the queue is a bit of a mess after PBR, pyparsing and oslo | 10:04 |
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| tonyb | but I think it's coming good | 10:05 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 10:05 |
| prometheanfire | not exactly a contraversy | 10:05 |
| tonyb | Yeah | 10:05 |
| tonyb | The things that are becoming challenging are eventlet and webob | 10:05 |
| tonyb | no one is driving them so they're just stagnating | 10:06 |
| prometheanfire | true | 10:06 |
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| prometheanfire | come monday should we just do eventlet? | 10:06 |
| prometheanfire | that was the first one we were targeting right? | 10:06 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: we can't | 10:06 |
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| tonyb | we have known issues in $projects and the fixes aren;t merging | 10:07 |
| tonyb | same for webob | 10:07 |
| prometheanfire | ah, right, the deps | 10:07 |
| tonyb | Yeah | 10:07 |
| prometheanfire | ya, that'd need to happen first | 10:07 |
| prometheanfire | I'm good at badgering people into submission | 10:08 |
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| prometheanfire | will see what I can do maybe | 10:08 |
| tonyb | I'll post to the mailing list | 10:08 |
| prometheanfire | k | 10:08 |
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| tonyb | I'd like to find an ownr for each of them | 10:09 |
| tonyb | if they're not in by M2 then they're not going in IMO | 10:10 |
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| prometheanfire | ya | 10:10 |
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| tonyb | next is kombu/amqp | 10:11 |
| tonyb | we just laned kombu4 but it breaks windows | 10:11 |
| tonyb | there is a review up | 10:11 |
| tonyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443032 | 10:11 |
| tonyb | but it needs work to be mergeable | 10:12 |
| prometheanfire | k | 10:12 |
| prometheanfire | ya, it hard caps | 10:12 |
| tonyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443032/3 | 10:13 |
| tonyb | fixed | 10:13 |
| prometheanfire | https://launchpad.net/openstack/+milestone/pike-2 is june 5 btw | 10:13 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah sounds about right | 10:14 |
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| tonyb | Once that has a +1 from claudiub can you shepard it? | 10:15 |
| prometheanfire | sure | 10:15 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Thanks | 10:16 |
| tonyb | #topic How to we crypto | 10:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "How to we crypto (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:17 | |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: what's the haps with pycrypto vs pycryptome and possibly pyca/cryptography ? | 10:17 |
| prometheanfire | I haven't looked yet, but I suspect there are still projects out there using pycrypto | 10:17 |
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| prometheanfire | since upstream is dead now, they need to move to preferably cryptography, but at least to pycryptome | 10:18 |
| prometheanfire | pycrypto already had one hard to backport cve | 10:18 |
| prometheanfire | in january | 10:18 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: is the switch from pycrypto -> pycryptome trivial? | 10:19 |
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| prometheanfire | I think so | 10:19 |
| tonyb | they exist in thr same namespace right? are they mostly API compatible? | 10:19 |
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| prometheanfire | both? | 10:20 |
| prometheanfire | pycryptome is kinda odd | 10:20 |
| tonyb | and we're capping pysaml2 because it has to stay compatible with pycrypto but pycryptome works with pysaml2>=4 ? | 10:21 |
| prometheanfire | pycryptodomex is an alt install method | 10:22 |
| prometheanfire | a drop-in replacement for the old PyCrypto library. You install it with: | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | pip install pycryptodome | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | a library independent of the old PyCrypto. You install it with: | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | pip install pycryptodomex | 10:23 |
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| prometheanfire | https://github.com/Legrandin/pycryptodome | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | just something to read up on for next week | 10:23 |
| prometheanfire | next? | 10:24 |
| tonyb | Yeah the transition is going to be a massive PITA | 10:24 |
| tonyb | because it's all or nothing and I don't know how to ensure that | 10:25 |
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| prometheanfire | yep | 10:25 |
| prometheanfire | pycrypto's dead, long live pycrypto | 10:25 |
| prometheanfire | or | 10:26 |
| prometheanfire | just move to cryptography | 10:26 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Sure but how do we *do* the switch from pycrypto to pycryptome | 10:26 |
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| prometheanfire | that, I'm not sure | 10:27 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: how do we ensure atmonically that 14 repos switch | 10:27 |
| prometheanfire | something for the list maybe | 10:27 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah that's the thing I'm worried about ... if they're API compatible then Meh it's the switch that's hard | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | it doesn't have to be atomic if they are switching to cryptography | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | does if switching to pycryptome | 10:28 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Sure but that's a *much* bigger change | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | I'm aware | 10:28 |
| prometheanfire | guess I'll send out that email | 10:28 |
| tonyb | I guess I'll poke the PTLs of the affected projects | 10:29 |
| tonyb | see if it's on the TODO list | 10:29 |
| tonyb | I had great plans of helping with that kinda of work but we don | 10:29 |
| tonyb | t have as many people willing to do that as I'd hoped for | 10:29 |
| tonyb | unny barbican uses both ;P | 10:30 |
| prometheanfire | wat | 10:30 |
| tonyb | Yeah | 10:30 |
| prometheanfire | maybe they are switching? | 10:30 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: more like they use it for differnt things | 10:31 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 10:31 |
| prometheanfire | so, have my todo list | 10:32 |
| tonyb | ok | 10:32 |
| prometheanfire | go to bed now? :D | 10:32 |
| tonyb | Yeah | 10:32 |
| tonyb | Thanks | 10:32 |
| tonyb | #enmeeting | 10:32 |
| prometheanfire | heh, np | 10:32 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 8 10:33:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-03-08-09.59.html | 10:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-03-08-09.59.txt | 10:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-03-08-09.59.log.html | 10:33 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 8 14:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni | hi zhurong | 14:01 |
| zhurong | hi devkulkarni | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | I just started our meeting | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | here is the agenda | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2017-03-08_1400_UTC | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | lets wait to see if caowei or vijendar or others join today | 14:02 |
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| devkulkarni | alright, lets start | 14:05 |
| zhurong | seems they missing today meeting | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | right | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | we can go over the agenda items and discuss | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Discussion | 14:06 |
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| devkulkarni | So I wanted touch base about some recent emails on the dev mailing list | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Devstack to make glance version 2 as default | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113314.html | 14:07 |
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| devkulkarni | we are using glance version 1 in some places https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/contrib/lp-cedarish/docker/build-app#L55 | 14:08 |
| zhurong | seems not affect us too much | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/contrib/lp-cedarish/docker/build-lp#L31 | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | these are the two places where we explicitly depend on glance version 1 | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | In the email they have mentioned how to enable glance version 1 by setting some config variable | 14:09 |
| zhurong | yep, we just enable v1 in the settings | 14:10 |
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| devkulkarni | right | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | although, the recommended approach is to convert to using glance v2 | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | let me create a bug to track this work | 14:11 |
| zhurong | cool | 14:11 |
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| devkulkarni | https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1671115 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1671115 in Solum "glance-v1-to-v2" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni | we can check with pt_15 if she wants to take up that | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni | so the second thing was about Tempest making Keystone v3 as default | 14:14 |
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| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113487.html | 14:14 |
| zhurong | agree | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: it will also be a good idea to check if someone from your org/team wants to take up the glance bug. It is small enough and provides a easy way to get started with solum | 14:15 |
| devkulkarni | *reading back on the tempest email* | 14:16 |
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| zhurong | If no one fix this, I will take over this | 14:17 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: looks like devstack is going to change keystone version to v3 for tempest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441531/ | 14:18 |
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| devkulkarni | your v3 patch is important | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439427/ | 14:18 |
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| devkulkarni | I am just waiting on caowei to give a +1 on it | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | if you see him, can you ping me about it | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | then we can merge your patch | 14:19 |
| zhurong | we can wait for the tempest v3 patch merged, and check our gate | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | good point.. I was wondering if there is anything on our server side that we need to change to enable keystone v3 support? | 14:20 |
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| zhurong | I think there should have some change to enable keystone v3 in server side | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni | I see. Looks like we might need some investigation to figure out what the server-side changes would be. | 14:22 |
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| devkulkarni | Let me make a note of this on the keystone v3 bug that you have referenced in your patch | 14:23 |
| zhurong | yep, agree with this | 14:23 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: added a comment to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1662457 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662457 in Solum "solum devstack keystone v3 support" [High,New] - Assigned to zhurong (zhu-rong) | 14:26 |
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| zhurong | OK, thanks | 14:27 |
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| devkulkarni | cool, lets then talk about the heat deployer patch | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni | 3) Change heat client auth way: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425001/ | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni | what are your thoughts on this? does my comment make sense? | 14:29 |
| zhurong | yes, I agree with your comment | 14:29 |
| zhurong | And just now, I have no idea about this. :( | 14:29 |
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| devkulkarni | *re-reading the comments* | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni | okay, so this particular patch is referenced in the replace-nova-docker blueprint..is the replacement (zun) working when using solum cli? (i.e. when using zun as the driver, are we able to deploy apps using the cli?) | 14:32 |
| zhurong | I am using dashboard, If change like the patch, it can deploy apps, and I think, cli it also can | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni | ah I see. so the patch will not make github triggers to work | 14:35 |
| zhurong | I this it is not releated | 14:35 |
| zhurong | I think it is not releated | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni | it is sort of related actually.. see the heat client that we generate need to have appropriate permissions to perform heat operations | 14:37 |
| devkulkarni | when using the context token, as long as it is the user token, the heat client would have these permissions | 14:37 |
| zhurong | yep, no need to auth and generate another token | 14:38 |
| devkulkarni | but when a trigger is received from github web hook, the token is not user token | 14:38 |
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| devkulkarni | your suggestion of asking for username/password on the dashboard for registering github trigger | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni | but we can do that in a follow-up patch | 14:40 |
| zhurong | yes, when using github trigger, this need special deal with | 14:41 |
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| devkulkarni | so right now, what do you think of using a special header that is passed when the request comes from the dashboard | 14:41 |
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| devkulkarni | we can use that header to generate the heat client using the context token | 14:42 |
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| devkulkarni | if that header is not present, we continue using the previous approach (of using username/password in generating heat client) | 14:42 |
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| devkulkarni | this will ensure that app deployment will work from command line and from dashboard | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | it will also ensure that apps that are registered from the cli and for which we have setup github triggers, will work | 14:43 |
| zhurong | I think cli will also have the token, let me conform this | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | the cli workflow also has the token -- that is not the issue actually | 14:44 |
| zhurong | when using github triggers, all cli and dashboard need provider the username/password, and the username/password only used for github triggers | 14:45 |
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| zhurong | heat client auth with the token in the context | 14:46 |
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| devkulkarni | sure, so another way would be to detect that app deployment is actually coming from github trigger (https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/solum/api/controllers/v1/trigger.py#L76) | 14:47 |
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| devkulkarni | and then generate the heat client using username/password | 14:47 |
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| devkulkarni | yeah, probably that can be done as well | 14:48 |
| devkulkarni | zhurong: just to confirm you have tested that this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425001/5/solum/deployer/handlers/heat.py works from dashboard and cli when using zun, right | 14:49 |
| zhurong | I will conform with cli | 14:49 |
| zhurong | dashboard I have confirmed | 14:50 |
| devkulkarni | ok, cool. | 14:50 |
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| devkulkarni | lets do this then.. once you confirm that the change works with cli as well, we can merge it with slight modification -- the modification being, lets leave the get_heat_client method as it is.. we can add a note that we will need that method for handling github triggers. will add detail comment on the patch. | 14:52 |
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| zhurong | sure | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni | lets quickly talk about releases.. | 14:53 |
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| devkulkarni | any upcoming release deadlines for pike? | 14:53 |
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| zhurong | for pike? | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni | https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 14:54 |
| zhurong | we need release deadlines for pike now? | 14:54 |
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| devkulkarni | just checking if there are any upcoming deadlines | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni | for ocata we have released all the artifacts, right? | 14:55 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: for pike, p-1 is when we have acknowledge the community-wide goals | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni | https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html#p-1 | 14:56 |
| zhurong | yes, are the repo have the stable/ocata | 14:56 |
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| devkulkarni | yep, all our repos have ocata | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni | good job on it | 14:56 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: for acknowledging community goals, I would encourage you to take a look at https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/index.html | 14:57 |
| devkulkarni | there is a patch that we need to submit for each of the goals | 14:57 |
| devkulkarni | the patch needs to essentially list what we have completed, what is remaining, tentative timeline | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | oh, looks like we are at the end of our meeting time almost | 14:58 |
| zhurong | yep | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | any thing that you wanted to discuss? | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | we can continue in our channel anyways | 14:59 |
| zhurong | np | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni | alright | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni | let me know how the zun deployment goes from the cli then | 14:59 |
| zhurong | ok, I will | 14:59 |
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| devkulkarni | good discussion today | 15:00 |
| devkulkarni | see you next week for the meeting | 15:00 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 8 15:00:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| zhurong | see you | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-08-14.00.html | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-08-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-08-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | Swami__: you around? | 15:02 |
| Swami__ | haleyb: yes | 15:03 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:03 |
| Swami__ | haleyb: sorry my laptop went into dream mode | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 8 15:03:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:03 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami__ Swami | 15:03 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: Swami | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami Swami__ haleyb | 15:03 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:04 |
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| haleyb | any announcements? i have nothing new to report | 15:05 |
| Swami__ | haleyb: I don't have either | 15:05 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:05 | |
| Swami__ | haleyb: thanks | 15:05 |
| Swami__ | haleyb: There are no new bugs reported for this week. | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | i saw bug 1668277 | 15:06 |
| openstack | bug 1668277 in neutron "When enable l2pop, after deleting the DVR port, the associated flow entries still exists." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668277 - Assigned to Yaohua Yan (sleepdream) | 15:06 |
| haleyb | i haven't looked to see if it's DVR issue | 15:06 |
| haleyb | actually already has a patch up | 15:07 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438516/ | 15:07 |
| Swami__ | haleyb: will take a look at it. | 15:08 |
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| Swami__ | I will triage it and see if we can reproduce the problem in the master and will review the patch based on it. | 15:09 |
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| Swami__ | haleyb: Is there any other new bug apart from this that I missed. | 15:10 |
| haleyb | Swami__: no, that was the only new one I saw | 15:11 |
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| Swami__ | Ok | 15:11 |
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| Swami__ | The only other one for review is the Fast-path-exit patches. | 15:12 |
| Swami__ | I did see that those patches are in merge conflict. | 15:12 |
| Swami__ | I will rebase those patches and push it in today. | 15:12 |
| Swami__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/ | 15:12 |
| Swami__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355062/ | 15:13 |
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| haleyb | i'll take another look, i might have forgotten to add my vote | 15:13 |
| Swami__ | haleyb: thanks | 15:14 |
| Swami__ | If possible can you also review the allowed_address_pair patches. | 15:14 |
| Swami__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437970/ | 15:14 |
| Swami__ | I got some early reviews from oleg. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | yes, will look at those too | 15:14 |
| Swami__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/ | 15:14 |
| Swami__ | Meanwhile I will try to rebase the patches if there are any merge conflicts. | 15:15 |
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| Swami__ | That's all I had for bugs. | 15:16 |
| haleyb | Ok. I noticed at least one bug that's been fixed, i'll scrub the wiki after the meeting | 15:17 |
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| Swami__ | haleyb: ok thanks | 15:18 |
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| haleyb | #topic Gate | 15:18 |
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| haleyb | I got some feedback from ihar on my dvr-multinode voting job as there was a spike this week | 15:19 |
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| haleyb | but the other plan is that dvr+ha is the plan going forward, since it covers both. We didn't want to have too many gate jobs (re)testing the same thing | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes that's what they agreed in the PTG. | 15:21 |
| haleyb | that topic is being covered in the -ci team meeting on tuesdays | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: ok, yes I remember that. | 15:21 |
| haleyb | So things will progress hopefully by end of cycle | 15:22 |
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| * haleyb is refreshing grafana just to make sure there isn't an issue | 15:23 | |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: good | 15:24 |
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| haleyb | things look good to me | 15:24 |
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| haleyb | moving on | 15:24 |
| haleyb | #topic Stable backports | 15:24 |
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| Swami_ | I have not pushed in any backports recently and nothing in my list at this point. | 15:26 |
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| haleyb | yeah, I haven't seen any specific to DVR either | 15:26 |
| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:26 |
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| haleyb | Anything else to discuss? i think it's just you and me swami | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: Did you attend the drivers meeting last week. Did anything come up on the RFE. | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I don't any specific topic for further discussions. | 15:29 |
| haleyb | I did not attend, so i don't know if it was held, would have to look at minutes | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: ok, | 15:29 |
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| haleyb | I had nothing else, we can get back to all the busywork we have this week | 15:30 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes already our setup is all messy this week, with all the move | 15:31 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: hopefully this week is not going to be fruitfull. | 15:31 |
| haleyb | yes, agreed | 15:32 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 8 15:32:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-08-15.03.html | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-08-15.03.txt | 15:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2017/neutron_dvr.2017-03-08-15.03.log.html | 15:32 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: bye | 15:32 |
| haleyb | Swami_: see you later | 15:32 |
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| rkukura | any ML2’ers here? | 16:02 |
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| dasanind | hi | 16:03 |
| rkukura | hi dasanind | 16:03 |
| dasanind | hi rkukura. I don't have much updates for today | 16:03 |
| rkukura | I don’t see Sukhdev, its his turn to chair today, and neither of us prepared an agenda | 16:04 |
| rkukura | so lets skip today’s meeting | 16:04 |
| rkukura | any objections to skipping this week’s ML2 subteam meeting? | 16:05 |
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| dasanind | rkukura: no objections. if you get a chance can you please review the apis? | 16:05 |
| rkukura | dasanind: will try - I’m traveling this week and have been in meetings continuosly | 16:06 |
| dasanind | rkukura: sounds good | 16:06 |
| rkukura | I still need to writeup the RFE for extension semantics enforcement too | 16:06 |
| rkukura | dasanind: thanks for showing up - see you here next week | 16:07 |
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| dasanind | rkukura: see ya | 16:07 |
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| timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 8 17:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| blancos | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | o/ blancos | 17:00 |
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| sonuk | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | ping mugsie kiall | 17:00 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | #topic Announcements | 17:01 |
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| timsim | I don't have any announcements, if someone else wants to do something, feel free | 17:01 |
| * timsim was just stalling while he pulled up other things | 17:02 | |
| mugsie | I have none :) | 17:02 |
| mugsie | heh | 17:02 |
| timsim | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:02 |
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| timsim | Doesn't look like we had any | 17:02 |
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| timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:02 |
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| timsim | `we are in the middle of an update, Launchpad will be back in a couple of minutes` | 17:03 |
| timsim | cool | 17:03 |
| mugsie | its back | 17:03 |
| timsim | Alright, doesn't look like any new bugs. | 17:04 |
| timsim | Just one for me to look at that I failed to. and one for mugsie to close | 17:04 |
| mugsie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate-dashboard/+bug/1670102 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1670102 in Designate Dashboard "AngularJS unittest with Jasmine and Karma" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to anusree (anusree-a04) | 17:05 |
| timsim | #action timsim to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1668290 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1668290 in Designate "First call to designate-worker raise error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim) | 17:05 |
| timsim | oops | 17:05 |
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| timsim | Well. I guess it's good to have angularjs unittest with jasmine and karma | 17:06 |
| timsim | I don't know what that is | 17:06 |
| mugsie | it JSUnit testing frameworks | 17:06 |
| timsim | Well I figured that :P | 17:06 |
| mugsie | afaik it is the standard horizon way | 17:06 |
| timsim | Cool. I guess triaged med then? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | I commented on the review | 17:06 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:06 |
| timsim | http://paste.openstack.org/show/601968/ | 17:08 |
| timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:08 |
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| timsim | my god im messing this up big time | 17:08 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:08 |
| timsim | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/601968/ | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | mainly docs | 17:08 |
| mugsie | which dont get backported | 17:09 |
| timsim | Yeah and the gate was wedged for quite a while | 17:09 |
| mugsie | (normally) | 17:09 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:09 |
| timsim | Alright moving on | 17:09 |
| Kiall | hacking? | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Didn't the build slaves all get the new version? | 17:09 |
| mugsie | Afaik, pbr2.0 is pike on | 17:09 |
| mugsie | i *think* | 17:09 |
| Kiall | K | 17:09 |
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| timsim | And there should be a stable requirements change if it's needed right? | 17:10 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:10 |
| timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:10 |
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| timsim | Anyone want to bring anything up? | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | I am good | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Me too | 17:11 |
| mugsie | I want to spend some off time over the next few days continuing on the list we made in ATL | 17:11 |
| timsim | We got some new docs/structure happening. Which is pretty cool https://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/ https://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate-tempest-plugin/ | 17:11 |
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| Kiall | shiny new theme on the tempest plugin>] | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:12 |
| Kiall | ?* | 17:12 |
| asettle | mugsie: lemme know if you need anything | 17:12 |
| * asettle drops in | 17:12 | |
| timsim | o/ asettle | 17:12 |
| mugsie | we are trying to move all docs to that theme afaik | 17:12 |
| timsim | Was it the support matrix that made that difficult mugsie ? | 17:12 |
| asettle | Yep, I need to get the requirements of that for you guys | 17:12 |
| mugsie | nope - it looks a ton better in the new theme | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299940/ | 17:13 |
| mugsie | was my last attempt - but timsim pglbut and Kiall didnt like it | 17:13 |
| timsim | Well coolio, maybe we try and get that done this week. Is that ^ all that needs to happen? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | basically | 17:13 |
| * timsim has a hard time believing he was that opinionated about it | 17:14 | |
| Kiall | mugsie: IIRC, it didn't render half the docs correctly at the time ;) | 17:14 |
| timsim | oh yeah that rings a bell | 17:14 |
| mugsie | I think the TOCs were weird | 17:14 |
| timsim | Well let's update it and see what happens | 17:14 |
| mugsie | and the H1's were hidden | 17:14 |
| mugsie | but I fixed the theme to allow us add in extra css now | 17:14 |
| mugsie | so we can tweak it oursleves if need be | 17:15 |
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| timsim | Neat-o. | 17:15 |
| timsim | Alright then, looks like we're about done. | 17:15 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:15 |
| timsim | blancos, sonuk anything you'd like to bring up? | 17:15 |
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| timsim | Any way we can help anything you're doing/want to do? | 17:15 |
| sonuk | timsim: nothing from my side. | 17:16 |
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| blancos | timsim Thanks for asking. Unfortunately, internally we've been a little busy but things are slowing down this week so I'll be able to spend more time on Designate | 17:16 |
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| timsim | Fair enough, ping us if you have any questions at all! | 17:16 |
| blancos | Will do :) | 17:17 |
| mugsie | blancos: heh - yeah, that balance is tough to get right :) | 17:17 |
| timsim | 🔥 alright, let's give folks some time back shall we | 17:17 |
| timsim | Anything else going once... | 17:17 |
| timsim | twice.... | 17:17 |
| timsim | #endmeeting | 17:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 8 17:17:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:17 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-08-17.00.html | 17:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-08-17.00.txt | 17:17 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:17 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-08-17.00.log.html | 17:17 |
| sonuk | o/ | 17:18 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 8 18:01:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| trevormc | o/ | 18:01 |
| johnma | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | courtesy ping for peterstac johnma slicknik dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | hi folks! | 18:02 |
| johnma | hi SlickNik!! long time | 18:02 |
| songjian | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Yeah :) | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Not much on the agenda today | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | Did anyone have any specific topics, or should we just move to open discussion? | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | btw, amrith sends his apologies — if you didn't see his email on the ML — he was double booked again this morning and wasn't able to make it to the meeting. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | So I have something I wanted to cover here. | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | I (and a few others in my team) are going to be moving from HPE to SUSE as part of an acquisition. | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | Today is my last day with HPE. I'm looking forward to this. It (hopefully) means that I will have more bandwidth to devote to Trove. | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | But more to come in the next week or so. | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | Will keep folks updated. | 18:08 |
| johnma | that is great news SlickNik | 18:08 |
| johnma | that will be good for Trove | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | Yup — we're looking forward to it. | 18:08 |
| johnma | Congratulations and good luck | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | I've been trying to already step up reviews and such — but the transition is taking most of my time at the moment. | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | Anyhow — anyone have anything else for the open discussion? | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | If not, we can call it a meeting and folks can have a chunk of their time back. :) | 18:10 |
| trevormc | Oh I'm the new doc liason, not sure if any of you saw that. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation] | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | Thanks for pointing that out trevormc — I didn't notice that. | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | And thanks for doing that! | 18:11 |
| johnma | thanks trevor. Do you have an idea what we are planning to do for Trove docs this release. | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | #info trevormc is the new Documentation Liason | 18:12 |
| trevormc | I want to fix the generate_examples.py file to support clusters | 18:12 |
| trevormc | the api documentation has no information on clusters | 18:12 |
| trevormc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435622/ | 18:13 |
| trevormc | its got a long way to go :( | 18:13 |
| * SlickNik is looking at the review | 18:14 | |
| johnma | . It is a good start though. I think we really need to look at the guest image building doc this release and update it. | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | Yes — both those areas are really lacking docs. | 18:15 |
| johnma | do you know if the docs are updated with trovestack info | 18:15 |
| trevormc | openstack-manuals still uses redstack | 18:15 |
| johnma | yes we definitely need to update this and we should make it a priority for this release | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | I can take a look into that (updating the manuals with trovestack info) in the next few days. | 18:16 |
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| trevormc | ok, I'll see if there are any low-hanging fruits that I can fix today/tomorrow | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | Sounds good. Anything else for open discussion? | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | . | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | .. | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | ... | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 8 18:18:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-08-18.01.html | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-08-18.01.txt | 18:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-08-18.01.log.html | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks all! See you around in #openstack-trove! | 18:18 |
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| johnma | thanks SlickNik | 18:21 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 8 20:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
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| diltram | o/ | 20:00 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Octavia is now cycle-with-milestones release cycle | 20:01 |
| xgerman | yeah | 20:01 |
| johnsom | This means we will do Pike-1, 2, 3, and rc releases now. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Mostly this will help with end of cycle tasks like setting stable/pike for the agent, etc. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | The other announcement I have is tomorrow there is a meeting to talk about an alternative act/act method | 20:02 |
| johnsom | 17:00 UTC Thursday March 9th | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #link http://bit.ly/2lTz7wK | 20:03 |
| johnsom | It's a webex style meeting | 20:03 |
| nmagnezi | any related readings to do before that meeting? | 20:03 |
| johnsom | No, I think it is a brainstorming kind of meeting where a spec will come out of it. | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | They are talking about using L3 anycast for act/act | 20:04 |
| johnsom | That is about all I know. | 20:04 |
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| nmagnezi | may I ask, just to get a context of this, why are we discussing an alternative? | 20:05 |
| nmagnezi | the current act/act work is going to get dropped? | 20:05 |
| johnsom | It is just a proposal from the community | 20:05 |
| johnsom | No, I expect it would be an alternate driver | 20:05 |
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| nmagnezi | ack. thanks. | 20:05 |
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| xgerman | yeah, we will keep teh current act/act work | 20:06 |
| johnsom | All good questions we can ask... | 20:06 |
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| xgerman | :-) | 20:06 |
| johnsom | I don't see any reason to drop the work that has been done for the current specs. | 20:06 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:07 |
| nmagnezi | aye. just asked to get the context of things. I'm not involved in this effort so just wanted to know :-) | 20:07 |
| xgerman | quite the opposite | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Anyway, please join if you can. Should be an interesting conversation | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Shortened urls are blocked on the wiki, so sharing it here... | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Other than our gates are slightly broken at the moment.... | 20:09 |
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| nmagnezi | which of the gates? anyone looking into this? | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Yeah, rm_work and I are working on it now | 20:10 |
| rm_work | T_T | 20:10 |
| nmagnezi | let me know if I can help with something here | 20:10 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:11 | |
| johnsom | Lots of stuff needing reviews, so help out if you can. | 20:11 |
| johnsom | I have been working on a bunch of clean up stuff and write ups about the PTG as well as reviewing the load balancer API | 20:12 |
| johnsom | I hope to get back to the api-ref today | 20:12 |
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| johnsom | No other updates? | 20:13 |
| johnsom | #topic Team mascot | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Team mascot (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:13 | |
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| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-mascot | 20:13 |
| johnsom | It doesn't look like we have new proposals, so we should move on to voting. | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Please add your name to the roll call list next to your color and +1 next to the mascot you like | 20:15 |
| johnsom | This way we won't have ballot stuffing.... grin | 20:15 |
| johnsom | #topic Status of Active/Active development | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status of Active/Active development (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:16 | |
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| johnsom | Are any of the developers on those patches here? | 20:17 |
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| nmagnezi | i think perelman is not here atm | 20:17 |
| xgerman | well, we have made some suggestions and haven’t seen them being picked up | 20:18 |
| johnsom | I wanted to get an update on that work. We have put up review comments, but I haven't seen any updates to those patches beyond rebases | 20:18 |
| xgerman | +! | 20:18 |
| xgerman | so we are wondering what is going on and how we can help | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Yes and if they will have resources to work on this for Pike. | 20:19 |
| johnsom | I was hoping we could iterate on those pretty quickly and get that merged early in Pike. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | +2 | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Ok, so hopefully they will read the minutes and send an update. I want to know if we need to find others to take over those patches. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | nmagnezi any idea how we can get in touch with them or make them get in touch with us | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | i really don't know, sorry :< | 20:21 |
| xgerman | k, thanks | 20:21 |
| johnsom | I can try e-mailing directly I guess. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Similar topic: | 20:21 |
| johnsom | #topic Status of flavors spec for Octavia | 20:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status of flavors spec for Octavia (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:22 | |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/392485 | 20:22 |
| johnsom | This spec was posted, there was some discussion, but I haven't seen updates. | 20:22 |
| johnsom | I don't see Evgeny here today either | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Is there still interest in working on this in Pike? | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | No Kobis either... | 20:24 |
| xgerman | ML? | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Bummer. This is one I wanted to make some traction on as the provider work will have flavors implications. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Yeah, probably ML time | 20:25 |
| johnsom | #topic Discussion about how to migrate loadbalancers from legacy haproxy in namespace to run under Octavia | 20:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion about how to migrate loadbalancers from legacy haproxy in namespace to run under Octavia (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:25 | |
| xgerman | :-( | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | that one would be me :) | 20:25 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Wanted to talk about migrating LBs | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | yup | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | I spoke with rm_work and johnsom about this subject already, and I would like to raise it here for more opinions. | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | so | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | Many operating currently use lbaasv2 with the legacy haproxy in namespace. | 20:26 |
| johnsom | It sounds like migrating between drivers, i.e. from netns driver to octavia driver. | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | I understand we currently don't have any tool to migrate existing loadbalancers from the old driver to Octavia, but from operators standpoint, I think this is an important option to have. | 20:26 |
| xgerman | ok, so not netns -> new netns | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | So, we might want to capture such a thing in a spec (?) but I would like to know what people think about this and if they have any specific idea as for how such a thing should be implemented. | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman, yup | 20:26 |
| johnsom | I do plan to have a method to migrate nlbaas netns lbs to octavia netns lbs | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | Please keep in mind that such a migration should be done in production env. Meaning: 1. It should have the option to roll back in case something goes wrong. 2. Minimal downtime, if possible. | 20:26 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, so maybe it makes more sense to have a two step migration | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | the one you mentioned should come as the first step | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Yeah, across drivers there pretty much has to be some downtime as the data flows will change | 20:27 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Yes, likely. | 20:28 |
| xgerman | yeah, vips change often as well | 20:28 |
| johnsom | My first question would be to investigate if we can move the vip port to preserve the IP address | 20:28 |
| xgerman | you can pass in the port after you cleared it I guess… | 20:29 |
| nmagnezi | mmm, yeah that is indeed problematic. i guess if operators use floating ip that won't be an issue for them but we cannot assume everyone do that | 20:29 |
| johnsom | We would probably need to create a flow that spins up the amp, plugs the backends and configures, but be able to move the VIP port at the last minute. | 20:29 |
| nmagnezi | yup | 20:30 |
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| xgerman | also how big a problem is it… do operators run 100 LBs they could recreate in a few hours or more like 1000s | 20:30 |
| nmagnezi | can two drivers co-exists in one deployment at the same time? just for the migration process? | 20:30 |
| johnsom | Maybe a first step would be just removing the VIP port and passing it into octavia for an lb create. Then optimize later | 20:30 |
| xgerman | nmagnezi yes, they can | 20:31 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Yes, we will have multiple live drivers | 20:31 |
| johnsom | You select with the "provider" parameter at LB create time | 20:31 |
| xgerman | we just can’t move one LB from one provider to another | 20:32 |
| nmagnezi | great. so as you said we can spin amps and configure them | 20:32 |
| johnsom | Right, it would be a process | 20:32 |
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| nmagnezi | so i guess the main question here is what would be the best practice to migrate the vip | 20:33 |
| nmagnezi | can we clear a vip without actually deleting the existing loadbalancer? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Right, start simple, look at how to detach from the old netns and pass in that port_ID to octavia on lb create... | 20:34 |
| xgerman | but then you still need to somehow gather listeners/members/pools | 20:34 |
| johnsom | I think so, but that would be the investigation. Can you, how, what are the gotchas | 20:34 |
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| nmagnezi | xgerman, that we can read directly from the database i guess, no? | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Right, it would need to mine the DB (bad idea) or do detail gets via the API | 20:35 |
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| xgerman | yep | 20:35 |
| nmagnezi | johnma, why is it a bad idea to mine the db? | 20:35 |
| nmagnezi | performance? | 20:36 |
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| johnsom | schemas change | 20:36 |
| johnsom | It's not a "stable" interface like the API is. | 20:36 |
| nmagnezi | it shouldn't change if i just read it, no? | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Is this something you are thinking about adding to the Octavia API or be a standalone tool? | 20:36 |
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| nmagnezi | i was thinking on a standalone tool, but if we can get this to Octavia API it should even better (and that removes the db mining) | 20:38 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi for example, the column "admin_state_up" in the DB could be renamed to "enabled". where the API has to keep a stable name for it | 20:38 |
| xgerman | I can see adding something which dumps all the LB and related info to later feed to a single create as a “backup” to the API | 20:38 |
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| nmagnezi | should be* | 20:38 |
| johnsom | It will need octavia service account level permissions to be able to access the VIP ports, etc. | 20:39 |
| nmagnezi | well we should only expect admins to do such actions, so is it a problem from that standpoint? | 20:40 |
| xgerman | well, if operators like their users to self-migrate when it is conveneient for them… | 20:40 |
| johnsom | No, just part of the thought process | 20:40 |
| johnsom | I think it would be an interesting API really. | 20:41 |
| johnsom | That way it could be something you allow your users to do. | 20:41 |
| nmagnezi | that is an interesting option. also, it makes it far more complex to implement :D | 20:42 |
| nmagnezi | but indeed it sounds like a better option | 20:42 |
| johnsom | So, yeah, interesting idea. Are you able to investigate and then propose a spec? | 20:42 |
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| nmagnezi | also xgerman made a good point about the "dump all LB" | 20:43 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, yes. it might take me couple of weeks to get to this, but it is something I can look into | 20:43 |
| johnsom | Yeah, a backup/restore from the api perspective. Interesting idea. I would track that as a seperate spec | 20:44 |
| xgerman | might be all you need if they can live with downtime | 20:44 |
| nmagnezi | where do we expect to keep the backup? | 20:44 |
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| nmagnezi | sorry if it is a dump question. | 20:44 |
| xgerman | the user would ask for it and move it to a place he likes | 20:45 |
| nmagnezi | dumb* | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Something that exports in "single call create" format | 20:45 |
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| nmagnezi | we have an single call create implemented already? | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Yes | 20:45 |
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| nmagnezi | nice! | 20:45 |
| nmagnezi | i was not aware of this. good to know. | 20:46 |
| johnsom | One call that creates all of the parts of the LB (pools, members, etc.) in one API call | 20:46 |
| nmagnezi | do we also have a single call delete (delete cascade was it called?) | 20:46 |
| johnsom | We do not however allow multiple LBs in one call. Maybe in the future | 20:46 |
| johnsom | #link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/octavia/api/octaviaapi.html#create-fully-populated-load-balancer | 20:47 |
| johnsom | The old docs. I will be adding that to the new API-REF soon | 20:47 |
| nmagnezi | ack. | 20:47 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other questions about that? | 20:48 |
| nmagnezi | okay I unless anyone has anything more to add. I have no additional questions. I will capture this in a spec. | 20:48 |
| nmagnezi | no. thank you for your time :) | 20:48 |
| xgerman | we should probably gather interest on the ML | 20:48 |
| johnsom | #idea Allow Octavia driver migration of load balancers | 20:48 |
| xgerman | not that we spend weeks and most people just run 10 LB | 20:49 |
| johnsom | #idea Add a way to export your load balancer configurations in "single call create" format | 20:49 |
| xgerman | it’s easy to gold plate such things | 20:49 |
| johnsom | I never use those tags, so figured I would try them out.... grin | 20:50 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:50 |
| nmagnezi | :) | 20:50 |
| xgerman | I also think if you use ns you should be ok with downrime ;-) | 20:50 |
| johnsom | True, those are "icing on the cake" features. We have some baking left to do on the base.... | 20:50 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman, lol | 20:50 |
| johnsom | A true statement.... | 20:51 |
| nmagnezi | i know :) | 20:51 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other topics today? | 20:51 |
| xgerman | oh, we have a spec for qos | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Oh, I spoke with those folks at the PTG. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441912/ | 20:52 |
| johnsom | I need to read that. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | I gave them some comments | 20:52 |
| xgerman | but yes please read… | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it has been so busy since the PTG. I am still catching up. (the summary e-mails to the mailing list were a bit late, but they went out...) | 20:53 |
| xgerman | I commented too much on CCF (see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333993/11/specs/pike/common-classification-framework.rst) so they pulled me in | 20:54 |
| nmagnezi | yup. highly detailed! I still need to read part 2 :) | 20:54 |
| johnsom | Glad to know someone read it... Grin | 20:55 |
| xgerman | I not only read but forwarded it ;-) | 20:55 |
| xgerman | spreading the gospel | 20:55 |
| nmagnezi | hah | 20:55 |
| nmagnezi | same here | 20:55 |
| nmagnezi | :) | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Nice. Fire hose style.... | 20:55 |
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| johnsom | Ok if there is nothing else I will end the meeting. | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Thanks for the discussion today. Good stuff. Don't forget to join the webex tomorrow about act/act if you can. | 20:56 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 8 20:56:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-08-20.00.html | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-08-20.00.txt | 20:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-03-08-20.00.log.html | 20:57 |
| diltram | thx | 20:57 |
| nmagnezi | bye | 20:57 |
| xgerman | bye | 20:57 |
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