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prometheanfire | tonyb: ? | 09:56 |
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dirk | hey | 10:04 |
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dirk | prometheanfire: tonyb : toabctl around? | 10:04 |
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prometheanfire | don't think so | 10:05 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 13:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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alexchadin | Hi | 13:01 |
hidekazu | hi | 13:01 |
adisky_ | hi | 13:01 |
alexchadin | #info Today we have the following agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F15.2F2017 | 13:01 |
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alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 13:01 |
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alexchadin | Two Watcher-related presentations has been accepted for Summit. #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Watcher | 13:02 |
dtardivel | Hi | 13:02 |
alexchadin | congratulations to presentation holders! | 13:02 |
hidekazu | congrats! | 13:02 |
hidekazu | my session was not chosen :( | 13:02 |
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ostroverkhov | congrats! | 13:02 |
sballe_ | o/ | 13:03 |
sballe_ | thx | 13:03 |
alexchadin | Any other announcements? | 13:03 |
alexchadin | well, move on | 13:04 |
licanwei | :) | 13:04 |
alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 13:04 |
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alexchadin | Watcher specs | 13:04 |
alexchadin | audit-tag-vm-metadata should be updated #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 13:04 |
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alexchadin | seems that hvprash isn't here | 13:05 |
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vincentfrancoise | hi | 13:05 |
sballe_ | vincentfrancoise: hi | 13:05 |
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alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: have hvprash contacted you to discuss your last comments on audit-tag-vm-metadata? | 13:06 |
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acabot | hi sorry to be late | 13:06 |
alexchadin | hi acabot | 13:07 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: no | 13:07 |
alexchadin | then I just mark it as action for him | 13:07 |
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alexchadin | #action hvprash provide new PS and answers on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 13:08 |
alexchadin | workload-characterization-grammar still needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 13:08 |
alexchadin | who wants to review new PS here? | 13:09 |
acabot | +1 | 13:09 |
alexchadin | there are a lot of changes made by Chris Spencer | 13:09 |
sballe_ | I can do that but chisspencer has been on vacation | 13:09 |
sballe_ | he should be back today and work on it again | 13:10 |
sballe_ | chris spencer is the new owner | 13:10 |
alexchadin | sballe_: very well | 13:10 |
licanwei | +1 | 13:10 |
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alexchadin | #action acabot licanwei sballe_ review new version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 13:11 |
alexchadin | noisy-neighbor-dashboard needs answers to licanwei #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/ | 13:11 |
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vincentfrancoise | I'll try to have have a look at it | 13:11 |
sballe_ | again chris has been on vacation. he is back today | 13:11 |
vincentfrancoise | I mean for workload-characterization-grammar | 13:11 |
alexchadin | Chris Spencer should answer here | 13:11 |
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alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 13:12 |
sballe_ | just assign him actions and he can follow up | 13:12 |
vincentfrancoise | sballe_: yes but I'll do it probably next week | 13:12 |
sballe_ | my comment was meant for alexchadin | 13:13 |
sballe_ | but cool | 13:13 |
alexchadin | #action chrisspencer_ give some answers on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/ | 13:13 |
vincentfrancoise | sballe_ my bad | 13:13 |
alexchadin | cron-based-continuous-audits needs new PS with mentioning Vincent's propositions #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442388/ | 13:13 |
sballe_ | Ilol | 13:13 |
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alexchadin | this BP will have dependencies with making apscheduler's jobs persistance | 13:14 |
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alexchadin | #action alexchadin update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442388/ | 13:15 |
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alexchadin | add-power-on-off needs answers to David's questions #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ | 13:15 |
alexchadin | it would be great if someone else review it too | 13:16 |
dtardivel | alexchadin: I read again the last updates from Yumeng. | 13:16 |
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dtardivel | We need to improve again this spec. If we decide to interact with Ironic to power on/off, this spec should be define how to work with the Ironic service. | 13:17 |
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dtardivel | so in the title, as example, set ironic term and so on .... | 13:18 |
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alexchadin | dtardivel: I agree | 13:18 |
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alexchadin | dtardivel: meanwhile, if we plan to work with Ironic, we need some development vector here | 13:19 |
dtardivel | licanwei: do you plan to add metadata in node-create API call to build the mapping between the hypersisor ID and the Baremetal node ID (and its management IP) ? | 13:19 |
dtardivel | alexchadin: yes | 13:19 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: +1 | 13:20 |
licanwei | dtardivel: just use ironicclient to control node power on/off | 13:20 |
dtardivel | alexchadin: I proposed to split this spec in 3 specs: 1: Baremetal DAta Model, 2: action power on/off, 3 the strategy | 13:20 |
licanwei | dtardivel: yes | 13:20 |
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dtardivel | licanwei: where the API call parameters will come from ? the baremetal data model ? | 13:21 |
alexchadin | +1 it is good to split it | 13:21 |
vincentfrancoise | +1 for splitting | 13:21 |
alexchadin | Baremetal Data Model may correlate with CDM | 13:21 |
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licanwei | dtardivel: add the mapping in the node table extra field | 13:22 |
dtardivel | alexchadin: licanwei: I think we can continue this discussion on #openstack-watcher :) | 13:22 |
alexchadin | We need to define placement for baremetal data in our data structure | 13:22 |
alexchadin | dtardivel: +1 | 13:22 |
licanwei | ok | 13:22 |
alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise dtardivel alexchadin licanwei discuss add-power-on-off | 13:23 |
dtardivel | licanwei: yes, I agree with you, so please describe this point in the spec ;= | 13:23 |
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alexchadin | cancel-action-plan needs reviews | 13:23 |
alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/ | 13:23 |
dtardivel | +1 | 13:23 |
alexchadin | #action dtardivel alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/ | 13:24 |
alexchadin | move on to Watcher | 13:24 |
alexchadin | Watcher | 13:24 |
alexchadin | gnocchi-watcher needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/ | 13:24 |
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alexchadin | who would like to take it? | 13:25 |
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vincentfrancoise | I can | 13:26 |
alexchadin | hidekazu: could you please review it? | 13:26 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: cool! | 13:26 |
hidekazu | ok, but i will do next week. | 13:26 |
alexchadin | no worries | 13:26 |
alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise hidekazu give final reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/ | 13:27 |
alexchadin | Actuator strategy needs to be taken by someone else since Vincent cannot work on it anymore #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425110/ | 13:27 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise has made a lot of work here and it is almost done | 13:27 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: just need to fix the remaining few issues, but that shouldn't be too difficult | 13:28 |
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alexchadin | who would like to take *heavy* burden and finish this commit? ;) | 13:29 |
alexchadin | well, I send proposition to the ML | 13:31 |
alexchadin | #action find a committer for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425110/ | 13:31 |
alexchadin | gnocchi support in basic_consolidation strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440293/ | 13:32 |
alexchadin | #action sanfern provide new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440293/ | 13:33 |
alexchadin | Add period input parameter to vm workload consolidation and outlet temp control strategy. needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444429/ | 13:33 |
alexchadin | same thing here | 13:33 |
alexchadin | #action sanfern provide new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444429/ | 13:34 |
alexchadin | Added suspended audit state needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/ | 13:34 |
alexchadin | dtardivel: could you please review it? | 13:35 |
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dtardivel | +1 | 13:35 |
Yumeng__ | I can also do the review | 13:35 |
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alexchadin | #action dtardivel Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/ | 13:36 |
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alexchadin | stale-action-plan needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440927/ | 13:36 |
alexchadin | #action hidekazu vincentfrancoise alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440927/ | 13:37 |
alexchadin | audit-tag-vm-metadata needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443070/ | 13:38 |
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alexchadin | #action dtardivel vincentfrancoise hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443070/ | 13:39 |
alexchadin | Local copy of scenario test base class needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442756/ | 13:39 |
alexchadin | who wants to review it? | 13:40 |
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vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: +1 | 13:41 |
alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442756/ | 13:41 |
alexchadin | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 13:42 |
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vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: but since it's a copy of another file, there's not much to do here | 13:42 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: +1 | 13:42 |
alexchadin | Reduced the code complexity needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441873/ | 13:42 |
alexchadin | we need to wait for answers from Béla Vancsics | 13:43 |
alexchadin | so move on to discussions | 13:43 |
alexchadin | #topic Open discussions | 13:43 |
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alexchadin | Propositions for Forum Brainstorming are gathering now. What do we want to discuss? #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113115.html | 13:44 |
alexchadin | it is a good place to get feedback from users | 13:44 |
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sballe_ | is something like the requirements we had on nova for workload placement a topic? | 13:45 |
acabot | +1 | 13:45 |
acabot | cross project topic | 13:45 |
sballe_ | could we branstorm about how to best integrate with Cinder given taht that is our next target? | 13:46 |
alexchadin | so we can create etherpad for this and place our proposals there | 13:46 |
alexchadin | sballe_: great idea | 13:46 |
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alexchadin | Ironic too | 13:46 |
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sballe_ | +1 | 13:46 |
alexchadin | I will place a link here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 | 13:47 |
alexchadin | feel free to share your thoughts | 13:47 |
alexchadin | Adding Watcher install guide to openstack-manuals: who would like to take care of it? | 13:48 |
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alexchadin | this idea don't leave me :) | 13:48 |
alexchadin | I already said that docs.openstack.org is a starting point for most newcomers | 13:49 |
alexchadin | seeing Watcher Installation Guide among other guides will help make Watcher more popular | 13:50 |
sballe_ | +1 | 13:50 |
sballe_ | I agree but don't sign me up | 13:50 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: What's the process to push a doc in the manuals? | 13:50 |
alexchadin | So I'd like to know if there is someone who can take care of it | 13:50 |
vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: this is almost like a BP on its own | 13:51 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: it has commit form | 13:51 |
alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/ | 13:51 |
adisky_ | alexchadin: I will take care of it | 13:51 |
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alexchadin | adisky_: cool! | 13:52 |
alexchadin | adisky_: could you please give us status of it weekly? | 13:52 |
adisky_ | alexchadin: ok | 13:52 |
alexchadin | adisky_: of course, once some related commit is ready, add us please as reviewers ;) | 13:53 |
adisky_ | alexchadin: ok | 13:53 |
alexchadin | Watcher presentations for LinuxCon + ContainerCon + CloudOpen China #link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-containercon-cloudopen-china/program/cfp | 13:53 |
alexchadin | who would like to talk about it? | 13:53 |
Yumeng__ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aMMwYfA0 | 13:54 |
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Yumeng__ | Ops.. too many words | 13:54 |
Yumeng__ | Can you see it? | 13:54 |
alexchadin | I see | 13:54 |
alexchadin | it is good idea | 13:55 |
alexchadin | Yumeng__: do you plan to hold it by yourself? | 13:55 |
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Yumeng__ | Yes, licanwei and I will be more than happy to help | 13:56 |
sballe_ | Yumeng__: let us know if you need any help | 13:56 |
sballe_ | with materials etc | 13:56 |
alexchadin | Yumeng__: great, we are ready to help | 13:57 |
Yumeng__ | thx sballe Alex | 13:57 |
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Yumeng__ | I need your materials in last summit for reference | 13:57 |
alexchadin | Yumeng__: contact me and I will give you all you need | 13:58 |
Yumeng__ | Great! I will email you | 13:58 |
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alexchadin | well, I think we are ready to end meeting | 13:59 |
alexchadin | thank you for your participation | 13:59 |
acabot | thx bye | 14:00 |
sballe_ | bye | 14:00 |
hidekazu | bye | 14:00 |
alexchadin | bye | 14:00 |
Yumeng__ | Thx bye | 14:00 |
alexchadin | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 15 14:00:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-15-13.01.html | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-15-13.01.txt | 14:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-03-15-13.01.log.html | 14:00 |
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devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 14:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
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Swami | hi | 14:01 |
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devkulkarni | hi Swami.. Its solum team meeting time | 14:02 |
devkulkarni | I guess you are here for the following meeting? | 14:02 |
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Swami | Yes I was waiting for haleyb | 14:03 |
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Swami | devkulkarni: do you have any items to discuss in the DVR meeting. | 14:03 |
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devkulkarni | Swami: no | 14:03 |
devkulkarni | hi zhurong_ | 14:03 |
vijendar | hi devkulkarni zhurong_ | 14:03 |
Swami | Ok, no problem. | 14:03 |
devkulkarni | hi vijendar | 14:03 |
Swami | I forgot the time change. | 14:04 |
devkulkarni | Swami: :) | 14:04 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar, zhurong: thanks for joining today | 14:04 |
devkulkarni | lets wait for a minute or two to see if any one else joins | 14:04 |
zhurong_ | hi devkulkarni vijendar I still have some works, so I can not attend today's meeting, but I will check the logs | 14:04 |
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devkulkarni | zhurong_: sure, sounds good | 14:05 |
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devkulkarni | zhurong_: although, one of the main things that I wanted to discuss today was about our devstack environment, which I think you might have insights into.. we will need this in preparation for the Boston summit | 14:06 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: I can quickly update you on where things are | 14:07 |
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vijendar | devkulkarni: sure | 14:08 |
devkulkarni | alright | 14:08 |
devkulkarni | So let me go through the agenda items that I had prepared for last meeting. That includes the main points anyways | 14:09 |
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devkulkarni | 1) We need to acknowledge the Pike goal of enabling WSGI app for API service | 14:09 |
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devkulkarni | btw, here is the agenda that I am referring to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum | 14:10 |
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devkulkarni | do you know how far are magnum or heat on this goal? | 14:10 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: magnum has a patch in review | 14:11 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: let me share that with you | 14:11 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: oh cool.. can you share that | 14:11 |
devkulkarni | cool | 14:11 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427723/ | 14:12 |
devkulkarni | looking | 14:12 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: I am trying to check where in https://github.com/openstack/solum we have to make such a change | 14:16 |
devkulkarni | btw, did magnum not use pecan? | 14:16 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: magnum uses pecan | 14:16 |
devkulkarni | I remember hearing at the Atlanta PTG that if pecan is being used then it is already a wsgi app | 14:17 |
devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/solum/api/app.py | 14:17 |
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vijendar | devkulkarni: that seems right, because magnum related change is just a wrapper script | 14:19 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: comparing that with https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/api/app.py | 14:19 |
devkulkarni | they seem similar | 14:19 |
vijendar | right | 14:19 |
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devkulkarni | the load_app method seems to be missing in solum app.py | 14:20 |
vijendar | but it seems we are using eventlet stuff in api layer, as per agenda item we need to remove it ...right? | 14:20 |
devkulkarni | yes, that is correct observation | 14:20 |
devkulkarni | does the goal state that? | 14:21 |
vijendar | it does not state that | 14:21 |
vijendar | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html | 14:22 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/391191e0118a0390eefd69b31a5a6804064172e3/solum/cmd/api.py | 14:22 |
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devkulkarni | right | 14:23 |
devkulkarni | but I remember that coming up for discussion in Atlanta | 14:23 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/eventlet-best-practices.html | 14:25 |
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vijendar | if we submit a patch similar to magnum, would this api.py would not come into picture... right? | 14:29 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: good question | 14:29 |
devkulkarni | let me check where is cmd/api.py is getting invoked | 14:29 |
vijendar | this api.py is to run solum api as a standalone server...right? | 14:29 |
devkulkarni | I think you are right.. in setup.cfg this might provided as a console_script | 14:30 |
devkulkarni | checking | 14:30 |
devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/setup.cfg#L50 | 14:30 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: good | 14:31 |
devkulkarni | so now one thing is not clear is how are these console scripts handled under wsgi server | 14:31 |
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vijendar | my understanding is under wsgi this will be bypassed | 14:32 |
devkulkarni | I think the console scripts might be getting triggered from our devstack setup | 14:32 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: I think you might be correct.. at least, the api will be bypassed | 14:32 |
devkulkarni | so we might have to make changes to devstack setup to only start remaining services and let wsgi server start the api | 14:33 |
devkulkarni | let me check plugin.sh in devstack | 14:33 |
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vijendar | I can keep on eye on magnum changes for wsgi support and then we can just replicate the changes (hopefully) | 14:34 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L279 | 14:34 |
devkulkarni | yep, that would be good | 14:34 |
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devkulkarni | it will be helpful to follow the magnum patch series | 14:35 |
devkulkarni | we might have to change this: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L280 | 14:35 |
devkulkarni | and this: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L289 | 14:35 |
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vijendar | ok | 14:36 |
devkulkarni | alright, so this is good | 14:36 |
devkulkarni | please keep us posted about changes that you are seeing in magnum around this | 14:36 |
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vijendar | sure | 14:36 |
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devkulkarni | cool.. other things that have happened recently are | 14:37 |
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devkulkarni | Devstack to make glance version 2 as default (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113314.html) | 14:38 |
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devkulkarni | this is going to affect us since we are using glance version 1 in our build_app and unit_test_app scripts | 14:38 |
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devkulkarni | 3) Tempest to use Keystone version 3 as default (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113487.html) | 14:39 |
devkulkarni | recently we merged zhurong's patch that added keystone v3 support in python-solumclient | 14:39 |
devkulkarni | we still need to figure out what needs to be done on the server side to enable keystone v3 support | 14:40 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: there was a change in magnum to do glance v1 to v2 | 14:40 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: oh really...can you share that patch if it is easily accessible | 14:40 |
vijendar | devkulkarni: sure. but it was just two lines change that was merged yesterday | 14:40 |
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vijendar | devkulkarni: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445246/ | 14:41 |
devkulkarni | ah okay.. let me share with you the places in our code that need to be changed | 14:41 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: cool, this patch is good reference point for us | 14:42 |
devkulkarni | let me share where we need to make changes | 14:42 |
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devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/contrib/lp-cedarish/docker/build-app#L54 | 14:43 |
devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/commit/1ef122b27c281a0ca93f4300c4f245e4fdd69fa2 | 14:43 |
devkulkarni | check the commit message | 14:43 |
devkulkarni | so looks like we have more work for this | 14:44 |
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devkulkarni | we might to figure out which glance v2 flags are relevant and then change worker/shell.py to pass them to build_app/build_lp accordingly | 14:45 |
devkulkarni | or, another option is to actually make change in devstack's plugin.sh to enable glance version 1 | 14:45 |
devkulkarni | I remember reading in that email about it | 14:46 |
devkulkarni | let me quickly scan the email again | 14:46 |
vijendar | ok | 14:46 |
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devkulkarni | vijendar: GLANCE_V1_ENABLED=True is what we need to set in settings/localrc for devstack plugin | 14:47 |
devkulkarni | although the email mentions that nova won't work with glance v1 anymore | 14:47 |
devkulkarni | in our devstack setup, we have moved away from using nova-docker to zun | 14:48 |
devkulkarni | as long as zun is able to work with glance v1, making above change in our devstack setup might be fine | 14:48 |
vijendar | I see | 14:49 |
devkulkarni | in real world setups though this might not work if nova/compute is running on ocata | 14:49 |
devkulkarni | lets see | 14:50 |
devkulkarni | I had a quick question about keystone v3 support | 14:50 |
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devkulkarni | does magnum support keystone v3? if so, can you share the code on the server side that enables v3 support? | 14:51 |
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devkulkarni | we have recently merged a patch that added keystone v3 support to python-solumclient | 14:51 |
devkulkarni | but now we need to figure out changes that need to be done on the solum api/server side | 14:51 |
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vijendar | devkulkarni: I think magnum supports keystone v3 but not sure. I will check and confirm later | 14:52 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: okay, sounds good | 14:53 |
devkulkarni | vijendar: btw, our presentation for the boston summit did not go through.. but for the project we have got a fishbowl session | 14:53 |
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vijendar | devkulkarni: yeah..I got an email :) | 14:54 |
devkulkarni | yeah | 14:54 |
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devkulkarni | my travel plans for boston are not finalized yet.. but hopefully I can make it | 14:55 |
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devkulkarni | we have one slot for fishbowl and one slot for a forum | 14:55 |
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vijendar | ok | 14:56 |
devkulkarni | we are almost at the end of our meeting time | 14:56 |
devkulkarni | anything that you have on mind to discuss? | 14:56 |
vijendar | nothing from me | 14:56 |
devkulkarni | ok | 14:56 |
devkulkarni | I think we had great discussion today | 14:56 |
devkulkarni | please keep us in the loop on the wsgi app goal | 14:57 |
vijendar | sure | 14:57 |
devkulkarni | cool, I will end the meeting then. see you next week. | 14:57 |
devkulkarni | thanks for joining today vijendar, zhurong. see you next week | 14:57 |
devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 15 14:58:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-15-14.00.html | 14:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-15-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
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Sukhdev_ | Folks, time for ML2 meeting | 15:01 |
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Sukhdev_ | Anybody here for ML2 meeting? | 15:03 |
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Swami | Sukhdev_: time change. | 15:05 |
Swami | haleyb: ping | 15:06 |
Sukhdev_ | Swami : Yikes!!! you are right | 15:06 |
Sukhdev_ | So, looks like I am in the wrong room at wrong time :-):-) | 15:07 |
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Swami | I don't see haleyb in here. So let us cancel the neutron_dvr meeting today. | 15:13 |
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timsim | #startmeeting designate | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 16:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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timsim | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:00 |
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timsim | ping mugsie kiall blancos sonu | 16:01 |
Sukhdev_ | timsim : are you sure about your meeting timing and channel? | 16:01 |
timsim | Nope | 16:01 |
timsim | Oh shiz daylight savings | 16:01 |
timsim | sorry my man | 16:01 |
mugsie | yeah, an hour early | 16:01 |
timsim | #endmeeting designate | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 15 16:01:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-16.00.html | 16:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-16.00.txt | 16:02 |
timsim | I hate daylight savings | 16:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-16.00.log.html | 16:02 |
timsim | Good meeting :P | 16:02 |
asettle | HEY DUDES | 16:02 |
asettle | Bye dudes | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev_ | timsim : I was about to start ML2 meeting - you beat me by a click :-) | 16:02 |
timsim | All yours Sukhdev_ | 16:02 |
Sukhdev_ | timsim : No worries - I did exactly the same an hour ago - was bumping into Swami's meeting | 16:03 |
* timsim feels better | 16:03 | |
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Sukhdev_ | Folks - time for ML2 meeting | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev_ | rkukura : are you here> | 16:03 |
trevormc | o/ | 16:03 |
trevormc | hi Sukhdev_ | 16:04 |
Sukhdev_ | hi trevormc | 16:04 |
rkukura | hi | 16:04 |
Sukhdev_ | Shall we get started | 16:04 |
rkukura | Sukhdev_, dasanind said she cannot make it today | 16:05 |
Sukhdev_ | rkukura : shall I start the meeting or want to postpone to next week? | 16:05 |
rkukura | either way is fine with me | 16:05 |
rkukura | I’m working on the extension semantics RFE but its not quite ready | 16:06 |
rkukura | I was hoping to discuss it today, but will post it soon | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc : you are here for ML2 meeting - do you have any agenda item you want to cover - | 16:06 |
rkukura | so if noone else has anything to discuss today, we can skip | 16:06 |
trevormc | I'm working on a QinQ network type driver, it should cover this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1604222 | 16:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1604222 in neutron "[RFE] Implement vlan transparent for openvswitch ML2 driver" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bo Chi (bochi-michael) | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc: Oh yes | 16:07 |
trevormc | I have a PoC to push up.. I still need to write the tests for it. | 16:07 |
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Sukhdev_ | hang on - let me start the meeting for the record | 16:07 |
trevormc | should I just upload it for us to see? | 16:07 |
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Sukhdev_ | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:08 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 16:08:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:08 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:08 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:08 |
Sukhdev_ | #topic: Agenda | 16:08 |
Sukhdev_ | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_15.2C_2017 | 16:08 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc : yes | 16:08 |
trevormc | ok I will push it up in a moment | 16:08 |
Sukhdev_ | #topic: Anouncements | 16:09 |
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Sukhdev_ | I do not have any specific announcements - I missed neutron core meeting this week | 16:09 |
Sukhdev_ | anybody has any announcements for the team? | 16:09 |
Sukhdev_ | #topic: Enhanced Agenda Items | 16:10 |
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Sukhdev_ | We are adding two new items for discussion to the agenda | 16:10 |
Sukhdev_ | 1) QinQ type driver | 16:11 |
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Sukhdev_ | 2) ML2 Driver extension enforcement | 16:11 |
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trevormc_ | hey sorry my browser froze | 16:11 |
Sukhdev_ | rkukura : can you go first? while trevormc_ fixes the browser issue | 16:12 |
rkukura | actually, if I can have another couple minutes, I’ll post my RFE | 16:12 |
trevormc | it may be | 16:13 |
Sukhdev_ | rkukura : sounds good - we are here | 16:13 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc_ : let me know when you are ready | 16:14 |
trevormc__ | Sukhdev_: ok, browser fixed now. | 16:14 |
Sukhdev_ | trevormc__ : cool - so, you go first while rkukura is wrapping up his RFE | 16:15 |
trevormc__ | https://review.openstack.org/446047 | 16:15 |
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trevormc__ | I know there are some things wrong with this patch. I'm here to volunteer my time to develop and debug. | 16:16 |
trevormc__ | I'm hoping neutron cores will push me in the right direction so we can land the new network type driver. | 16:17 |
Sukhdev_ | trevormc__ : makes sense | 16:17 |
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Sukhdev_ | #link: https://review.openstack.org/446047 | 16:18 |
Sukhdev_ | trevormc__ : I will review this patch - one quick observation | 16:18 |
Sukhdev_ | I noticed you are adding new DB table. You may want to add the migration scripts as well | 16:19 |
trevormc__ | Please do! Or I can learn and do it myself. | 16:19 |
trevormc__ | There are a couple alternatives to this approach. I guess I shouldve put it in the commit message | 16:20 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc__ : it is very trivial step that needs to be added - but, we can worry about it later, lets first make sure this driver does the right things | 16:21 |
trevormc__ | Instead of adding another table there was talk about modifying the segmentation_id field to hold the values in a dictionary. I think the Trunk team wanted to use this too. | 16:21 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc__ : I like that approach as well - | 16:22 |
trevormc__ | I found it difficult to use the SegmentTypeDriver with that approach | 16:22 |
trevormc__ | because it relies on the allocated field. | 16:22 |
rkukura | there was a proposal a while back to generalize the “provider” attributes that may be worth digging up, but a dict might suffice | 16:22 |
Sukhdev_ | the idea of segmentation_type and segmentation_id is to be able to accomodate various types | 16:22 |
Sukhdev_ | rkukura : +1 | 16:23 |
Sukhdev_ | trevormc__ : you have RFE/Bug filed for this feature, right? | 16:24 |
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trevormc__ | Sukhdev, no RFE/bug is filed for specifically this. | 16:25 |
trevormc__ | I thought I could use https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1604222 | 16:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1604222 in neutron "[RFE] Implement vlan transparent for openvswitch ML2 driver" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bo Chi (bochi-michael) | 16:25 |
trevormc__ | because in the reviews sean commented he prefers a network type driver to solve this problem. | 16:25 |
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trevormc__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342755/ | 16:26 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc : I see - | 16:28 |
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Sukhdev_ | trevormc : So, if you want to use the same bug for this, then you should refer to it in your patch - so, that people can tie these together and get the history | 16:29 |
trevormc | Sukhdev_: ok I was just thinking about that | 16:29 |
Sukhdev_ | trevormc : right - update the commit message to include the appropriate links | 16:30 |
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Sukhdev_ | this week is very tight for me. I will try to review the patch and post comments either over the weekend or early next week - | 16:32 |
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Sukhdev_ | I am sure rkukura will have good feedback for you as well | 16:32 |
trevormc | Thank you, I will be working on the unit tests in the meantime. | 16:33 |
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rkukura | I’ll try - added myself as a reviewer | 16:33 |
Sukhdev_ | anything else on this type driver? | 16:33 |
trevormc | no thats all, thanks. | 16:33 |
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Sukhdev_ | #topic: Extensions enforcement discussion | 16:34 |
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rkukura | Ok | 16:34 |
Sukhdev_ | rkukura : are you ready? | 16:34 |
rkukura | At the PTG, I had promised to file an RFE for this | 16:35 |
rkukura | I finally got to it this morning | 16:35 |
Sukhdev_ | excellent | 16:35 |
rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673142 | 16:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1673142 in neutron "[RFE][ML2] Enforce extension semantics" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
rkukura | I tried to just capture what had been discussed at the PTG | 16:36 |
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rkukura | I think the only substantive change was realizing that the enforcement needed to be done entirely within the transacation that commits a port binding, otherwise extension values might change before the binding is committed | 16:36 |
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rkukura | The RFE is a bit dense, so I don’t think it makes sense to review it in detail here now, but maybe we could discuss it next week | 16:37 |
Sukhdev_ | rkukura : right, I tried to scan through it - need time to review | 16:38 |
rkukura | I’ll post a link on the email thread that kevinbenton started on this | 16:39 |
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Sukhdev_ | rkukura : +1 | 16:39 |
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rkukura | that’s it for me | 16:39 |
Sukhdev_ | trevormc : you may want to review this as well - this may apply to the RFE that you shared with us at PTG | 16:40 |
Sukhdev_ | thanks rkukura | 16:40 |
trevormc | Sukhdev, I bookmarked it | 16:40 |
trevormc | will do | 16:41 |
Sukhdev_ | Anything else? | 16:41 |
rkukura | not from me | 16:42 |
trevormc | not from me either | 16:42 |
Sukhdev_ | since we do not have dasanind here, I am going to skip the port binding stuff - unless anybody has anything to discuss about it | 16:42 |
Sukhdev_ | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:42 |
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Sukhdev_ | The Boston summit is fast approaching - | 16:43 |
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Sukhdev_ | rkukura : you are going to be our official guide :-):-) | 16:44 |
rkukura | I’ll miss Monday, though | 16:44 |
Sukhdev_ | or shall I say I nominate you for the job :-) | 16:44 |
rkukura | snow should be gone by then | 16:45 |
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Sukhdev_ | we had 78 degrees yesterday - when you were dealing with the snow :-):-) | 16:45 |
rkukura | I was in FL for the last storm, so it was nice to be here this time | 16:46 |
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rkukura | of course it was only in the 50s and 60s last week when I was in SJC | 16:46 |
Sukhdev_ | as long as you are having fun - that is what matters... | 16:47 |
rkukura | right | 16:47 |
Sukhdev_ | I can stand snow for a day or so... not more than that | 16:47 |
rkukura | lets wrap up so I can get some lunch ;) | 16:47 |
Sukhdev_ | I am chicken :-):-) | 16:47 |
trevormc | +1 | 16:47 |
Sukhdev_ | OK - | 16:47 |
Sukhdev_ | Thanks for discussion folks | 16:48 |
Sukhdev_ | bye | 16:48 |
trevormc | \o | 16:48 |
rkukura | thanks Sukhdev_! | 16:48 |
Sukhdev_ | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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rkukura | bye | 16:48 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 15 16:48:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-03-15-16.08.html | 16:48 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-03-15-16.08.txt | 16:48 |
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timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 17:02:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:02 |
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mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
sonuk | o/ | 17:02 |
timsim | Got it right this time :P | 17:02 |
timsim | ping Kiall blancos | 17:02 |
mugsie | :D | 17:02 |
timsim | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
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kiall | o/ (but on a call) | 17:03 |
timsim | Congrats sonuk on getting an accepted summit talk! | 17:03 |
sonuk | timsim: thanks | 17:03 |
mugsie | nice | 17:03 |
timsim | Also our docs are sexy now https://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/ sup asettle | 17:03 |
asettle | Hey hey | 17:03 |
asettle | Oohhhhh | 17:03 |
asettle | FLASHY | 17:03 |
asettle | Look at all that organisation | 17:04 |
asettle | It's so fresh | 17:04 |
reedip | sonuk congrats | 17:04 |
timsim | freshhh2death | 17:04 |
timsim | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:04 |
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mugsie | timsim: you are so luck i cannot kick yuo right now :P | 17:04 |
mugsie | lucky* | 17:04 |
timsim | What'd I do? Jealous of my swag? | 17:04 |
timsim | 2legit2quit | 17:04 |
asettle | Wow. The legitimacy hurts. | 17:05 |
timsim | boom | 17:05 |
timsim | #action timsim to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1668290 | 17:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1668290 in Designate "First call to designate-worker raise error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim) | 17:05 |
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timsim | I kinda looked at this, I think the periodic sync task might fix it | 17:05 |
timsim | but I'ma leave it as an action | 17:05 |
timsim | That was it | 17:06 |
timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:06 |
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timsim | Just this beautiful one https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1671636 | 17:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1671636 in Designate "Erroneous 'not found' logs in mdns on NOTIFYs" [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
timsim | from eandersson | 17:06 |
timsim | <3 that guy | 17:06 |
timsim | It's just a bad log message that's super confusing I think. | 17:06 |
timsim | I was going to tag it high and low-hanging-fruit | 17:06 |
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mugsie | sounds good | 17:07 |
timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:07 |
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timsim | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/602903/ | 17:08 |
timsim | As usual, see if there's anything worth of bp | 17:08 |
* timsim doesn't think anything is | 17:08 | |
mugsie | nope | 17:08 |
timsim | alrighty | 17:09 |
timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:09 |
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timsim | Anyone have anything? | 17:09 |
asettle | Yesss | 17:09 |
asettle | I just posted in the chan | 17:09 |
asettle | Dang mugsie timsim when you're off the meeting: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/ | 17:09 |
asettle | On the left hand panel | 17:09 |
asettle | It counts "Designate, a DNSaaS component..."A | 17:09 |
asettle | As a friggin toc tree level | 17:09 |
mugsie | yeah - the the way sphinx does toc trees - the page title is the root | 17:10 |
asettle | Hmmm lemme try something | 17:10 |
mugsie | its a pain | 17:10 |
timsim | meh | 17:10 |
timsim | Anyone interested plz review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444518/ | 17:10 |
mugsie | we also have a problem | 17:10 |
mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445069/ | 17:10 |
mugsie | loks like the new version of oslo config breaks us | 17:11 |
timsim | oh boy | 17:11 |
mugsie | it causes the rmq connect to break | 17:11 |
mugsie | when the api auth sedction is filled in | 17:11 |
timsim | You think that's what the 504's are? I thought we'd been seeing that for a little while | 17:11 |
mugsie | no, if you look at the resonces it is something someonje else saw | 17:12 |
mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/1554.gif | 17:12 |
mugsie | I have no idea yet | 17:12 |
timsim | What responses? | 17:13 |
mugsie | the oslo.messaging ones | 17:13 |
mugsie | in the service logs | 17:13 |
timsim | Ah ok. fun. I'll take alook at that later today | 17:13 |
timsim | Anyone have anything else? | 17:13 |
sonuk | timsim: are we thinking of supporting active standby HA for designate using pacemaker by writing any custom ofc resource agent . | 17:14 |
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timsim | Not really sure why you'd want to | 17:14 |
sonuk | timsim: i was testing that use case | 17:15 |
timsim | You could light up a standby designate environment essentially by having a replicated database, and then when you need to failover starting a few services and flipping the API endpoint from the busted to happy environment. | 17:15 |
timsim | Having failover DNS servers is more complicated I guess. | 17:16 |
mugsie | yeah | 17:16 |
sonuk | timsim: right | 17:16 |
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timsim | If you want to chat about that more, feel free in #openstack-dns! | 17:17 |
timsim | Anything else? | 17:17 |
timsim | Going once... | 17:17 |
sonuk | timsim: sure | 17:17 |
mugsie | nope - i am good | 17:17 |
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timsim | twice | 17:18 |
timsim | #endmeeting designate | 17:18 |
timsim | o/ | 17:18 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 15 17:18:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:18 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-17.02.html | 17:18 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-17.02.txt | 17:18 |
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amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 18:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
trevormc | o/ | 18:00 |
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amrith | hi trevor | 18:01 |
amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
amrith | which I'm just updating now ... | 18:02 |
amrith | courtesy ping to peterstac johnma slicknik dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik | 18:02 |
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amrith | we don't have anything specific on the agenda today | 18:03 |
amrith | so this may be a very short meeting | 18:03 |
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amrith | do you have anything specific trevor? | 18:03 |
trevormc | nothing really. | 18:04 |
trevormc | There are these changes I made last week | 18:04 |
trevormc | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove+file:doc+owner:%22Trevor+McCasland+%253CTM2086%2540att.com%253E%22 | 18:04 |
trevormc | but they are just for the docs. I noticed the automatic plugin documentation was not working. | 18:04 |
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trevormc | I was just trying to fix some low hanging fruits. shouldnt be too bad to review, given the jenkins +1 | 18:05 |
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amrith | I'm trying to get the gate going again | 18:06 |
amrith | the fix merged yesterday | 18:06 |
amrith | to get it running on master | 18:06 |
amrith | stable branches are still busted | 18:06 |
amrith | will cherry-pick there | 18:06 |
trevormc | yeah I saw that, and rechecked my +2'd patch | 18:06 |
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trevormc | still seeing failures. "Wait for resize instance flavor to complete. " | 18:08 |
amrith | yes, those are one of the common failures that we see | 18:08 |
amrith | anyway, if there's nothing more to discuss, I'm going to wind up this meeting and go back to getting the gate to run with containers | 18:09 |
trevormc | sounds good. | 18:09 |
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amrith | sounds like the meeting is ... going ... | 18:11 |
amrith | ... going ... | 18:11 |
amrith | gone | 18:11 |
amrith | #endmeeting | 18:11 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 15 18:11:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:11 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-15-18.00.html | 18:11 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-03-15-18.00.txt | 18:11 |
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johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 15 20:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
johnsom | Congrats to those that followed DST changed the time... | 20:00 |
xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
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xgerman | I learned my lesson over the years to put in my appointment in UTC | 20:00 |
johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
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johnsom | Yep, me too | 20:01 |
rm_work | plz invite me to your meeting :P | 20:01 |
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johnsom | rm_work will do | 20:01 |
johnsom | We have four presentations for the Boston Summit. Should be busy. | 20:01 |
johnsom | Hands on Lab: Octavia | 20:01 |
johnsom | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17583/hands-on-lab-octavia | 20:02 |
johnsom | Octavia: Load Balancing for OpenStack | 20:02 |
johnsom | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17859/octavia-load-balancing-for-openstack | 20:02 |
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johnsom | Project Update - Octavia | 20:02 |
johnsom | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18611/project-update-octavia | 20:02 |
johnsom | Introduction to OpenStack Load Balancing | 20:02 |
johnsom | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17862/introduction-to-openstack-load-balancing | 20:02 |
johnsom | So that is awesome | 20:02 |
johnsom | I will get started on the slides maybe next week. I plan to do the google doc thing again so folks can contribute. | 20:03 |
johnsom | Another announcement is our shiny new repos merged today | 20:04 |
xgerman | cool - rm_work wonde rif youstill have the scripts we used for the last lab | 20:04 |
diltram | o/ | 20:04 |
johnsom | python-octaviaclient - For our OpenStack Client plugin | 20:04 |
johnsom | octavia-dashboard - A copy of the neutron-lbaas-dashboard that will target the new Octavia endpoint | 20:04 |
rm_work | xgerman: hmmm, i had some thoughts about that | 20:04 |
rm_work | but we'll talk :P | 20:04 |
xgerman | sounds good | 20:05 |
johnsom | octavia-tempest-plugin - Tempest plugin repo to get ahead of the proposed queens goal and we can clean up our Tempest situation | 20:05 |
johnsom | Any other announcements or questions? | 20:05 |
rm_work | topic of the day is octavia/dib co-gate i think | 20:06 |
rm_work | but we'll get to that in ... open discussion? | 20:06 |
xgerman | openstack-ansible for Ocavia has merged | 20:06 |
johnsom | The octavia core team has access, but I setup separate ACLs so we can have others for specific repos. | 20:06 |
johnsom | xgerman Nice!!!! +100 | 20:06 |
diltram | xgerman: awesome :) | 20:06 |
diltram | I'm gonna test it in near future | 20:07 |
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xgerman | cool | 20:07 |
johnsom | Yeah, I am anxious to try it out too. Won't have time for a bit, but excited. | 20:07 |
johnsom | Now if we can just convince diltram to send us all NUCs.... | 20:08 |
diltram | :P | 20:08 |
diltram | no way | 20:08 |
diltram | they mine | 20:08 |
* johnsom thought he would try.... | 20:08 | |
johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:08 |
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xgerman | maybe we should port it to rasperry pi | 20:08 |
xgerman | I am telling you embedded OpenStack will be huge, or bigly | 20:09 |
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johnsom | I am trying to get testing done on the LB API patch. Had a hiccup yesterday, but will be back on that today. | 20:09 |
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rm_work | easy one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446144/ | 20:09 |
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johnsom | Yep, done | 20:09 |
xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303304/ | 20:09 |
johnsom | I know that passes as it was in the other patch earlier | 20:10 |
diltram | rm_work: I'm gonna wait for test results | 20:10 |
rm_work | right | 20:10 |
rm_work | do that :P | 20:10 |
rm_work | but it'll pass | 20:10 |
rm_work | ah yeah it did already | 20:10 |
johnsom | xgerman it looks like it has a pep8 issue? | 20:10 |
diltram | but it was fixed | 20:11 |
xgerman | huh | 20:11 |
xgerman | ok, we will sort that out | 20:11 |
diltram | it's again the E402 | 20:11 |
johnsom | Ah, that is a quick fix | 20:11 |
rm_work | diltram: gate-octavia-tox-functional-py35-ubuntu-xenial: SUCCESS | 20:12 |
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johnsom | Grin | 20:12 |
johnsom | Ok, if nothing else here, moving on | 20:12 |
johnsom | #topic Team mascot | 20:13 |
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johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-mascot | 20:13 |
johnsom | Looks like we have a tie | 20:13 |
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johnsom | peacock or tree with roots | 20:13 |
johnsom | Though I am still partial to canary.... hahaha | 20:13 |
xgerman | #vote, #vote | 20:14 |
johnsom | Has everyone voted? | 20:14 |
diltram | rm_work: I'm still not seeing results :P | 20:14 |
diltram | johnsom: I voted | 20:14 |
xgerman | me, too | 20:14 |
rm_work | diltram: look in zuul :P | 20:15 |
rm_work | should we do a second round with limited options?? | 20:15 |
johnsom | #startvote Team mascot? Peacock, Tree | 20:15 |
openstack | Begin voting on: Team mascot? Valid vote options are Peacock, Tree. | 20:15 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 20:15 |
johnsom | Just to honor dougwig | 20:15 |
diltram | #vote Tree | 20:16 |
rm_work | you could have gotten canary in there | 20:16 |
rm_work | ah well | 20:16 |
johnsom | #vote Peacock | 20:16 |
rm_work | #vote Canary | 20:16 |
openstack | rm_work: Canary is not a valid option. Valid options are Peacock, Tree. | 20:16 |
johnsom | hahaha | 20:16 |
rm_work | #vote Tree | 20:16 |
diltram | rm_work: :P | 20:17 |
xgerman | #vote peacock | 20:17 |
johnsom | always a joker in the crowd | 20:17 |
rm_work | in what way is a peacock load-balancing exactly? | 20:17 |
m-greene- | #vote peacock | 20:17 |
rm_work | was trying to understand that | 20:17 |
johnsom | Something about fanning out.. | 20:17 |
rm_work | ah | 20:17 |
m-greene- | too bad ‘hydra’ isn’t an option | 20:17 |
rm_work | i mean roots are literally load-bearing | 20:17 |
rm_work | but no big deal :P | 20:17 |
rm_work | wait | 20:18 |
xgerman | it is now ;-) | 20:18 |
rm_work | is it not? | 20:18 |
diltram | rm_work: when I will see jenkins +1 | 20:18 |
rm_work | HEIL HYDRA | 20:18 |
m-greene- | no mythical creatures? | 20:18 |
rm_work | fff | 20:18 |
johnsom | Right | 20:18 |
rm_work | #vote Ignore the stupid "no mythical creatures rule"? Yes, Duh | 20:18 |
openstack | rm_work: Ignore the stupid "no mythical creatures rule"? Yes, Duh is not a valid option. Valid options are Peacock, Tree. | 20:18 |
johnsom | I like the root thing | 20:18 |
johnsom | #vote Tree | 20:19 |
rm_work | ah that was supposed to be startvote | 20:19 |
rm_work | ah well | 20:19 |
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johnsom | Going once..... | 20:19 |
johnsom | Going twice.... | 20:19 |
rm_work | #vote Tree | 20:19 |
johnsom | #endvote | 20:19 |
openstack | Voted on "Team mascot?" Results are | 20:19 |
openstack | Peacock (2): m-greene-, xgerman | 20:19 |
openstack | Tree (3): diltram, rm_work, johnsom | 20:19 |
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johnsom | I will follow up with the foundation and they will give us some renderings | 20:19 |
rm_work | both of those are very calm | 20:19 |
rm_work | not like Fire or Supernova | 20:20 |
diltram | rm_work: your patch is failing on lbaasv2-dsvm | 20:20 |
rm_work | Tree implies solid, reliable | 20:20 |
johnsom | Is perelman here today? | 20:20 |
rm_work | diltram: false positive, OVH, 99% sure | 20:20 |
rm_work | let me check | 20:20 |
rm_work | I didn't change anything that would run there :P | 20:20 |
rm_work | oh, neutron-lbaasv2? | 20:21 |
rm_work | everything fails those | 20:21 |
diltram | yep | 20:21 |
johnsom | Ok, skipping Act/Act discussion. Same status as last week | 20:21 |
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johnsom | #topic flavors | 20:21 |
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rm_work | until DIB releases | 20:21 |
rm_work | I think | 20:21 |
johnsom | Any updates on the flavors spec? | 20:21 |
xgerman | well, we might recap the Walmart meet | 20:21 |
rm_work | oh the API too, weird | 20:21 |
johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/392485 | 20:22 |
rm_work | diltram: neutron-lbaas bug | 20:22 |
diltram | I see | 20:22 |
johnsom | xgerman Yeah, that is a good idea. Coming up. | 20:22 |
rm_work | diltram: http://logs.openstack.org/44/446144/1/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api-ubuntu-xenial/8cdc9d8/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-03-15_19_54_15_754 | 20:22 |
johnsom | Ok, no update on flavors either. | 20:22 |
johnsom | #topic When should we lock neutron-lbaas for new features? | 20:23 |
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m-greene- | I haven’t reviwed again since PTG | 20:23 |
rm_work | #vote right now | 20:23 |
rm_work | #vote last cycle | 20:23 |
johnsom | We are getting enhancement patches on neutron-lbaas. This is going to get ugly with the API move work. | 20:23 |
m-greene- | (flavors spec), no response comments from original author | 20:23 |
xgerman | ok, that wa striggered by #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445274/ | 20:23 |
johnsom | m-greene- I think it is a spec without an owner at the moment. | 20:23 |
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xgerman | but we need to announce it properly and not pull the rug from people | 20:24 |
diltram | johnsom: I had to tell you but I agree with rm_work | 20:24 |
johnsom | xgerman Yep. That is why I wanted to talk about the timing. | 20:24 |
xgerman | also are there any more blueprints we failed to mark down | 20:24 |
johnsom | I am happy to send out something saying Pike-1 is it. | 20:24 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:24 |
nmagnezi | o/ | 20:24 |
nmagnezi | sorry to be late | 20:24 |
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diltram | hey | 20:25 |
johnsom | I think the neutron PTLs have archived any legacy blueprints for neutron-lbaas | 20:25 |
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johnsom | I have moved all of the bugs/RFEs over already | 20:25 |
rm_work | diltram: ugh and that gate is voting. this sucks | 20:25 |
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rm_work | \o/ our gate is broken again woo | 20:26 |
xgerman | I just want to make sure that we don;t see a feature appear and then somenody points to some bleuprint we ignored | 20:26 |
johnsom | So any objection to sending out a e-mail marking Pike-1 feature freeze for neutron-lbaas? | 20:26 |
xgerman | no, go for it — | 20:26 |
nmagnezi | nop | 20:26 |
johnsom | xgerman I would point them to contribute the code to Octavia repo. | 20:27 |
xgerman | it seems Heat are the biggest obstacle so ight be worth to reach out to them infromally | 20:27 |
johnsom | It's not like we are halting load balancing work, just shifting the location | 20:27 |
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xgerman | yep, but they will whine that we don;t have migration ready, etc. | 20:27 |
diltram | why heat would want to use any migration scripts? | 20:28 |
johnsom | They can keep using neutron-lbaas and we will still need to handle bugs, it's just new features | 20:28 |
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xgerman | yep, I am just playing devil’s advocate | 20:28 |
johnsom | I think it is in reference to the v1 person that missed the memos two years ago.... | 20:28 |
diltram | :P | 20:29 |
xgerman | I have seen people being concerned about LBaaS V2->Octavia migration | 20:29 |
nmagnezi | xgerman, is that a another idea for a mascot? :) | 20:29 |
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johnsom | HA | 20:29 |
xgerman | lol | 20:29 |
m-greene- | macot = ‘groundhog day | 20:30 |
m-greene- | where every day I get asked about v1-v2 upgrade | 20:30 |
johnsom | Ok, Let's start the flame wars and mark Pike-1 feature freeze for neutron-lbaas. I will also reach out to kevinbenton | 20:30 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:30 |
johnsom | #topic Walmart Act/Act meeting | 20:31 |
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johnsom | We had a nice chat/presentation from some folks a Walmart that have done a proof of concept Act/Act implementation | 20:31 |
nmagnezi | johnsom, did they share the presentation / submited anything else? | 20:31 |
xgerman | they promised to share | 20:32 |
johnsom | They are using a hybrid anycast / resiliant hashing ECMP | 20:32 |
johnsom | The slides they had included a lot of internal stuff, but they will write up a spec with the details | 20:32 |
johnsom | So we can all review and comment | 20:33 |
johnsom | It sounds good though. Looking forward to the spec | 20:33 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:33 |
diltram | +1 | 20:33 |
xgerman | they are also adding a BGP soeaker to the amp image | 20:33 |
johnsom | My one concern is we need to land some of the base act/act stuff | 20:33 |
johnsom | Yep, forgot that part. | 20:34 |
xgerman | about act/act I have been told that stick-tables don’t scale | 20:34 |
johnsom | xgerman That is true. The spec calls out they will be grouped | 20:34 |
xgerman | k | 20:35 |
johnsom | Any other comments about the proposal? | 20:35 |
johnsom | Next step is a spec | 20:35 |
johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:36 |
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xgerman | ok, we have seen two proposals to extebd the lb create | 20:36 |
xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445274/ | 20:36 |
xgerman | amnd QoS | 20:37 |
xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441912/ | 20:37 |
xgerman | I am wondering if we want to keep tham as one-offs or have a more integarted approach | 20:38 |
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xgerman | I can see FWaaS or whatever can be dangled on the port in] the future… | 20:39 |
rm_work | diltram: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446169/ | 20:39 |
rm_work | we put ours up at the same time | 20:39 |
johnsom | Yeah. Personally I don't mind extending the API when it makes sense. | 20:39 |
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rm_work | but i realized for round 2 that it isn't quite that simple | 20:39 |
rm_work | diltram: see what i ended up doing | 20:39 |
diltram | saw it | 20:39 |
johnsom | xgerman Did you have a proposal for a different approach? | 20:40 |
diltram | rm_work: done the same :P | 20:40 |
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rm_work | lol | 20:40 |
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xgerman | we talked about “cloning” the port earlier | 20:40 |
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rm_work | diltram: no i mean, now | 20:40 |
rm_work | diltram: patchset 2 | 20:40 |
diltram | rm_work: you need to remove also this linux.interface | 20:40 |
xgerman | or expose the port for people to add suff | 20:41 |
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diltram | but even now you can specify the port | 20:41 |
rm_work | diltram: ah _INTERFACE_DRIVER_OPTS could be used directly, got it | 20:41 |
diltram | so where is the problem? | 20:41 |
xgerman | we don’t really use that port for anyhting | 20:41 |
johnsom | I am not a huge fan of exposing the port and letting end users mess with it in a non-controlled way. It seems like it could break things like failover | 20:41 |
xgerman | on the other hand if we control those things we have to fix stuff when they break us | 20:42 |
johnsom | Like what happened with the DNS being auto enabled on the ports | 20:42 |
xgerman | yeah | 20:42 |
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diltram | rm_work: abandon your patch, we need to merge this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352471/9 | 20:42 |
rm_work | ah k finally | 20:42 |
rm_work | wait but that misses a spot T_T | 20:43 |
rm_work | fff | 20:43 |
rm_work | lol | 20:43 |
rm_work | i can fix it | 20:43 |
xgerman | I have no good answer neither it just doesn’t feel like core LB functionality | 20:43 |
johnsom | diltram That won't merge as it's dependent hasn't merged | 20:43 |
rm_work | actually it doesn't do a complete job | 20:43 |
diltram | johnsom: removed the tag | 20:43 |
rm_work | oh right | 20:43 |
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rm_work | nah this depends on ANOTHER patch | 20:44 |
johnsom | xgerman Yeah, but there is overlap. Many LBs also do things like QoS and ACLs | 20:44 |
rm_work | we'll want to merge mine i think and remove that part from this one | 20:44 |
rm_work | degorenko: ^^ | 20:44 |
rm_work | err | 20:44 |
rm_work | diltram: | 20:44 |
xgerman | ok, since we are all distracted by patches should we defer or just deal with the one-offs as they appear | 20:44 |
johnsom | I could see value in being able to accept some of those settings and either use neutron or pass it through to the driver | 20:45 |
xgerman | yep, I like us to be a bit decoupled as well | 20:45 |
rm_work | diltram: yeah this patch is totally different actually | 20:45 |
johnsom | m-greene- What are your thoughts about QoS and ACLs? Is that something you could see implementing in your driver in the future? | 20:45 |
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johnsom | Or would you lean towards just using neutron for those? | 20:46 |
johnsom | We might have lost him... | 20:47 |
xgerman | yep | 20:47 |
m-greene- | If ACLs ::= security group rules/policies, yes, our customers have interest in us off-loading that from each compute node to an appliance for more performance | 20:47 |
m-greene- | that’s more “perimeter defense” stuff.. QoS is more traffic-shaping and I don’t know as much | 20:48 |
johnsom | Ok, good info. | 20:48 |
xgerman | yep, we might need to push the current proposals to delegate the specifics to a driver | 20:49 |
m-greene- | that would be a fwaas driver though ;) xgerman was trying to recruit me at PTG | 20:49 |
johnsom | So that leans more towards we have an API for that sort of thing | 20:49 |
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xgerman | nah, fwaas is doing it’s thing alright | 20:49 |
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m-greene- | ACls => L2-L4 tuple, not so much on L7 which already exists in lbaas, right? | 20:50 |
xgerman | johnsom not only an API but also a driver | 20:50 |
xgerman | well, people like to pass in security groups | 20:50 |
johnsom | Yes and yes | 20:50 |
m-greene- | pass in , as in attach an object Id ala barbican container ID | 20:51 |
xgerman | yep | 20:51 |
johnsom | I don't like the security group thing. Again, it speaks of trouble. I would lean more towards an ACL api like we have for L7 | 20:51 |
xgerman | ok, we can also use Common Classifiers for our ACLs | 20:51 |
johnsom | It would also limit the vendor drivers. | 20:52 |
johnsom | Ha, haven't looked at that stuff in a while | 20:52 |
m-greene- | I use that reference becasue SG already exists, and I thought FWaaSv2 was going to supercede SG and combine in higher-level policy abstraction | 20:52 |
xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333993/ | 20:52 |
xgerman | m-greene correct | 20:52 |
xgerman | yeah, I don’t think we need to re-invent that wheel | 20:53 |
johnsom | Interesting | 20:53 |
xgerman | well, so basically we allow people to pass in a sg-id and we do soemthign meaningful with it or we make them give us their rules in some format | 20:53 |
xgerman | I prefer the former | 20:54 |
johnsom | And what happens when they change it's definition? | 20:54 |
xgerman | then things change | 20:54 |
johnsom | Or can you not change the definition, just make a new one? | 20:54 |
m-greene- | in octavia wouldn’t we want the same behavior for SG, barbican and eventually flavor? | 20:54 |
m-greene- | octavia download and dump the objects contents into the service def passed to the worker? | 20:55 |
xgerman | yep, that’s why I am bringing that up — we should come up with a party-line | 20:55 |
m-greene- | or vendor driver | 20:55 |
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johnsom | Right, barbican you can't change the contents, only give us a new ID | 20:55 |
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johnsom | Flavor is kind of the same thing, set it once per LB | 20:55 |
m-greene- | is the broader request for LBaaS to start enforcing sec policy? | 20:56 |
xgerman | security groups you can delete, add rules, etc. | 20:56 |
johnsom | SG can be updated outside of our knowledge | 20:56 |
xgerman | yep | 20:56 |
m-greene- | just like barbi | 20:56 |
m-greene- | can | 20:56 |
xgerman | no barbican is create/read - no update | 20:56 |
johnsom | Rigth | 20:56 |
m-greene- | not now | 20:56 |
johnsom | I'm not sure either solution solves the one security group request I heard. It was about leveraging some transitive trust to work around some kubernetes issues. | 20:58 |
johnsom | Well, we are about out of time. Let's think about this more and bring it up as a topic again. | 20:58 |
xgerman | ok | 20:58 |
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johnsom | Thanks folks for joining and your input. | 20:59 |
johnsom | Chat with you next week or in the channel. | 20:59 |
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xgerman | o/ | 20:59 |
m-greene- | well this becomes very interesting with containers… LBaaS is traditionally north-south for ingress traffic to a tenant (web app). so sec gropus come in to play for east-west lb between containers within a tenant? | 20:59 |
nmagnezi | o/ | 20:59 |
johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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