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prometheanfiretonyb: ?09:56
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dirkhey10:04
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dirkprometheanfire: tonyb : toabctl  around?10:04
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prometheanfiredon't think so10:05
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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher13:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 15 13:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'13:01
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alexchadinHi13:01
hidekazuhi13:01
adisky_hi13:01
alexchadin#info Today we have the following agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F15.2F201713:01
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alexchadin#topic Announcements13:01
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alexchadinTwo Watcher-related presentations has been accepted for Summit. #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Watcher13:02
dtardivelHi13:02
alexchadincongratulations to presentation holders!13:02
hidekazucongrats!13:02
hidekazumy session was not chosen :(13:02
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ostroverkhovcongrats!13:02
sballe_o/13:03
sballe_thx13:03
alexchadinAny other announcements?13:03
alexchadinwell, move on13:04
licanwei:)13:04
alexchadin#topic Review Action Items13:04
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alexchadinWatcher specs13:04
alexchadinaudit-tag-vm-metadata should be updated #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/13:04
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alexchadinseems that hvprash isn't here13:05
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vincentfrancoisehi13:05
sballe_vincentfrancoise: hi13:05
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alexchadinvincentfrancoise: have hvprash contacted you to discuss your last comments on audit-tag-vm-metadata?13:06
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acabothi sorry to be late13:06
alexchadinhi acabot13:07
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: no13:07
alexchadinthen I just mark it as action for him13:07
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alexchadin#action hvprash provide new PS and answers on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/13:08
alexchadinworkload-characterization-grammar still needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/13:08
alexchadinwho wants to review new PS here?13:09
acabot+113:09
alexchadinthere are a lot of changes made by Chris Spencer13:09
sballe_I can do that but chisspencer has been on vacation13:09
sballe_he should be back today and work on it again13:10
sballe_chris spencer is the new owner13:10
alexchadinsballe_: very well13:10
licanwei+113:10
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alexchadin#action acabot licanwei sballe_ review new version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/13:11
alexchadinnoisy-neighbor-dashboard needs answers to licanwei #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/13:11
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vincentfrancoiseI'll try to have have a look at it13:11
sballe_again chris has been on vacation. he is back today13:11
vincentfrancoiseI mean for workload-characterization-grammar13:11
alexchadinChris Spencer should answer here13:11
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alexchadin#action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/13:12
sballe_just assign him actions and he can follow up13:12
vincentfrancoisesballe_: yes but I'll do it probably next week13:12
sballe_my comment was meant for alexchadin13:13
sballe_but cool13:13
alexchadin#action chrisspencer_ give some answers on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/13:13
vincentfrancoise sballe_ my bad13:13
alexchadincron-based-continuous-audits needs new PS with mentioning Vincent's propositions #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442388/13:13
sballe_Ilol13:13
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alexchadinthis BP will have dependencies with making apscheduler's jobs persistance13:14
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alexchadin#action alexchadin update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442388/13:15
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alexchadinadd-power-on-off needs answers to David's questions #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/13:15
alexchadinit would be great if someone else review it too13:16
dtardivelalexchadin: I read again the last updates from Yumeng.13:16
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dtardivelWe need to improve again this spec. If we decide to interact with Ironic to power on/off, this spec should be define how to work with the Ironic service.13:17
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dtardivelso in the title, as example, set ironic term and so on ....13:18
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alexchadindtardivel: I agree13:18
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alexchadindtardivel: meanwhile, if we plan to work with Ironic, we need some development vector here13:19
dtardivellicanwei: do you plan to add metadata in node-create API call to build the mapping between the hypersisor ID and the Baremetal node ID (and its management IP) ?13:19
dtardivelalexchadin: yes13:19
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: +113:20
licanweidtardivel: just use ironicclient to control node power on/off13:20
dtardivelalexchadin: I proposed to split this spec in 3 specs: 1: Baremetal DAta Model, 2: action power on/off, 3 the strategy13:20
licanweidtardivel: yes13:20
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dtardivellicanwei: where the API call parameters will come from ? the baremetal data model ?13:21
alexchadin+1 it is good to split it13:21
vincentfrancoise+1 for splitting13:21
alexchadinBaremetal Data Model may correlate with CDM13:21
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licanweidtardivel: add the mapping in the node table extra field13:22
dtardivelalexchadin: licanwei: I think we can continue this discussion on #openstack-watcher :)13:22
alexchadinWe need to define placement for baremetal data in our data structure13:22
alexchadindtardivel: +113:22
licanweiok13:22
alexchadin#action vincentfrancoise dtardivel alexchadin licanwei discuss add-power-on-off13:23
dtardivellicanwei: yes, I agree with you, so please describe this point in the spec ;=13:23
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alexchadincancel-action-plan needs reviews13:23
alexchadin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/13:23
dtardivel+113:23
alexchadin#action dtardivel alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432264/13:24
alexchadinmove on to Watcher13:24
alexchadinWatcher13:24
alexchadingnocchi-watcher needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/13:24
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alexchadinwho would like to take it?13:25
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vincentfrancoiseI can13:26
alexchadinhidekazu: could you please review it?13:26
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: cool!13:26
hidekazuok, but i will do next week.13:26
alexchadinno worries13:26
alexchadin#action vincentfrancoise hidekazu give final reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438530/13:27
alexchadinActuator strategy needs to be taken by someone else since Vincent cannot work on it anymore #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425110/13:27
alexchadinvincentfrancoise has made a lot of work here and it is almost done13:27
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: just need to fix the remaining few issues, but that shouldn't be too difficult13:28
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alexchadinwho would like to take *heavy* burden and finish this commit? ;)13:29
alexchadinwell, I send proposition to the ML13:31
alexchadin#action find a committer for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425110/13:31
alexchadingnocchi support in basic_consolidation strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440293/13:32
alexchadin#action sanfern provide new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440293/13:33
alexchadinAdd period input parameter to vm workload consolidation and outlet temp control strategy. needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444429/13:33
alexchadinsame thing here13:33
alexchadin#action sanfern provide new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444429/13:34
alexchadinAdded suspended audit state needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/13:34
alexchadindtardivel: could you please review it?13:35
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dtardivel+113:35
Yumeng__I can also do the review13:35
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alexchadin#action dtardivel Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438800/13:36
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alexchadinstale-action-plan needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440927/13:36
alexchadin#action hidekazu vincentfrancoise alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440927/13:37
alexchadinaudit-tag-vm-metadata needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443070/13:38
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alexchadin#action dtardivel vincentfrancoise hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443070/13:39
alexchadinLocal copy of scenario test base class needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442756/13:39
alexchadinwho wants to review it?13:40
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: +113:41
alexchadin#action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442756/13:41
alexchadin#topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion13:42
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: but since it's a copy of another file, there's not much to do here13:42
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: +113:42
alexchadinReduced the code complexity needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441873/13:42
alexchadinwe need to wait for answers from Béla Vancsics13:43
alexchadinso move on to discussions13:43
alexchadin#topic Open discussions13:43
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alexchadinPropositions for Forum Brainstorming are gathering now. What do we want to discuss? #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113115.html13:44
alexchadinit is a good place to get feedback from users13:44
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sballe_is something like the requirements we had on nova for workload placement a topic?13:45
acabot+113:45
acabotcross project topic13:45
sballe_could we branstorm about how to best integrate with Cinder given taht that is our next target?13:46
alexchadinso we can create etherpad for this and place our proposals there13:46
alexchadinsballe_: great idea13:46
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alexchadinIronic too13:46
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sballe_+113:46
alexchadinI will place a link here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston201713:47
alexchadinfeel free to share your thoughts13:47
alexchadinAdding Watcher install guide to openstack-manuals: who would like to take care of it?13:48
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alexchadinthis idea don't leave me :)13:48
alexchadinI already said that docs.openstack.org is a starting point for most newcomers13:49
alexchadinseeing Watcher Installation Guide among other guides will help make Watcher more popular13:50
sballe_+113:50
sballe_I agree but don't sign me up13:50
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: What's the process to push a doc in the manuals?13:50
alexchadinSo I'd like to know if there is someone who can take care of it13:50
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: this is almost like a BP on its own13:51
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: it has commit form13:51
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/13:51
adisky_alexchadin: I will take care of it13:51
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alexchadinadisky_: cool!13:52
alexchadinadisky_: could you please give us status of it weekly?13:52
adisky_alexchadin: ok13:52
alexchadinadisky_: of course, once some related commit is ready, add us please as reviewers ;)13:53
adisky_alexchadin: ok13:53
alexchadinWatcher presentations for LinuxCon + ContainerCon + CloudOpen China #link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-containercon-cloudopen-china/program/cfp13:53
alexchadinwho would like to talk about it?13:53
Yumeng__https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aMMwYfA013:54
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Yumeng__Ops.. too many words13:54
Yumeng__Can you see it?13:54
alexchadinI see13:54
alexchadinit is good idea13:55
alexchadinYumeng__: do you plan to hold it by yourself?13:55
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Yumeng__Yes, licanwei and I will be more than happy to help13:56
sballe_Yumeng__: let us know if you need any help13:56
sballe_with materials etc13:56
alexchadinYumeng__: great, we are ready to help13:57
Yumeng__ thx sballe Alex13:57
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Yumeng__I need your materials in last summit  for reference13:57
alexchadinYumeng__: contact me and I will give you all you need13:58
Yumeng__Great! I will email you13:58
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alexchadinwell, I think we are ready to end meeting13:59
alexchadinthank you for your participation13:59
acabotthx bye14:00
sballe_bye14:00
hidekazubye14:00
alexchadinbye14:00
Yumeng__Thx bye14:00
alexchadin#endmeeting14:00
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
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Swamihi14:01
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devkulkarnihi Swami.. Its solum team meeting time14:02
devkulkarniI guess you are here for the following meeting?14:02
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SwamiYes I was waiting for haleyb14:03
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Swamidevkulkarni: do you have any items to discuss in the DVR meeting.14:03
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devkulkarniSwami: no14:03
devkulkarnihi zhurong_14:03
vijendarhi devkulkarni zhurong_14:03
SwamiOk, no problem.14:03
devkulkarnihi vijendar14:03
SwamiI forgot the time change.14:04
devkulkarniSwami: :)14:04
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devkulkarnivijendar, zhurong: thanks for joining today14:04
devkulkarnilets wait for a minute or two to see if any one else joins14:04
zhurong_hi devkulkarni vijendar I still have some works, so I can not attend today's meeting, but I will check the logs14:04
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devkulkarnizhurong_: sure, sounds good14:05
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devkulkarnizhurong_: although, one of the main things that I wanted to discuss today was about our devstack environment, which I think you might have insights into.. we will need this in preparation for the Boston summit14:06
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devkulkarnivijendar: I can quickly update you on where things are14:07
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vijendardevkulkarni: sure14:08
devkulkarnialright14:08
devkulkarniSo let me go through the agenda items that I had prepared for last meeting. That includes the main points anyways14:09
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devkulkarni1) We need to acknowledge the Pike goal of enabling WSGI app for API service14:09
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devkulkarnibtw, here is the agenda that I am referring to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum14:10
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devkulkarnido you know how far are magnum or heat on this goal?14:10
vijendardevkulkarni: magnum has a patch in review14:11
vijendardevkulkarni: let me share that with you14:11
devkulkarnivijendar: oh cool.. can you share that14:11
devkulkarnicool14:11
vijendardevkulkarni: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427723/14:12
devkulkarnilooking14:12
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devkulkarnivijendar: I am trying to check where in https://github.com/openstack/solum we have to make such a change14:16
devkulkarnibtw, did magnum not use pecan?14:16
vijendardevkulkarni: magnum uses pecan14:16
devkulkarniI remember hearing at the Atlanta PTG that if pecan is being used then it is already a wsgi app14:17
devkulkarnihttps://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/solum/api/app.py14:17
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vijendardevkulkarni:  that seems right, because magnum related change is just a wrapper script14:19
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devkulkarnivijendar: comparing that with https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/api/app.py14:19
devkulkarnithey seem similar14:19
vijendarright14:19
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devkulkarnithe load_app method seems to be missing in solum app.py14:20
vijendarbut it seems we are using eventlet stuff in api layer, as per agenda item we need to remove it ...right?14:20
devkulkarniyes, that is correct observation14:20
devkulkarnidoes the goal state that?14:21
vijendarit does not state that14:21
vijendarhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html14:22
devkulkarnivijendar: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/391191e0118a0390eefd69b31a5a6804064172e3/solum/cmd/api.py14:22
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devkulkarniright14:23
devkulkarnibut I remember that coming up for discussion in Atlanta14:23
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devkulkarnivijendar: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/eventlet-best-practices.html14:25
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vijendarif we submit a patch similar to magnum, would this api.py would not come into picture... right?14:29
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devkulkarnivijendar: good question14:29
devkulkarnilet me check where is cmd/api.py is getting invoked14:29
vijendarthis api.py is to run solum api as a standalone server...right?14:29
devkulkarniI think you are right.. in setup.cfg this might provided as a console_script14:30
devkulkarnichecking14:30
devkulkarnihttps://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/setup.cfg#L5014:30
vijendardevkulkarni: good14:31
devkulkarniso now one thing is not clear is how are these console scripts handled under wsgi server14:31
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vijendarmy understanding is under wsgi this will be bypassed14:32
devkulkarniI think the console scripts might be getting triggered from our devstack setup14:32
devkulkarnivijendar: I think you might be correct.. at least, the api will be bypassed14:32
devkulkarniso we might have to make changes to devstack setup to only start remaining services and let wsgi server start the api14:33
devkulkarnilet me check plugin.sh in devstack14:33
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vijendarI can keep on eye on magnum changes for wsgi support and then we can just replicate the changes (hopefully)14:34
devkulkarnivijendar: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L27914:34
devkulkarniyep, that would be good14:34
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devkulkarniit will be helpful to follow the magnum patch series14:35
devkulkarniwe might have to change this: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L28014:35
devkulkarniand this: https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L28914:35
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vijendarok14:36
devkulkarnialright, so this is good14:36
devkulkarniplease keep us posted about changes that you are seeing in magnum around this14:36
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vijendarsure14:36
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devkulkarnicool.. other things that have happened recently are14:37
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devkulkarniDevstack to make glance version 2 as default (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113314.html)14:38
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devkulkarnithis is going to affect us since we are using glance version 1 in our build_app and unit_test_app scripts14:38
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devkulkarni3) Tempest to use Keystone version 3 as default (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113487.html)14:39
devkulkarnirecently we merged zhurong's patch that added keystone v3 support in python-solumclient14:39
devkulkarniwe still need to figure out what needs to be done on the server side to enable keystone v3 support14:40
vijendardevkulkarni: there was a change in magnum to do glance v1 to v214:40
devkulkarnivijendar: oh really...can you share that patch if it is easily accessible14:40
vijendardevkulkarni: sure. but it was just two lines change that was merged yesterday14:40
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vijendardevkulkarni: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445246/14:41
devkulkarniah okay.. let me share with you the places in our code that need to be changed14:41
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devkulkarnivijendar: cool, this patch is good reference point for us14:42
devkulkarnilet me share where we need to make changes14:42
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devkulkarnihttps://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/contrib/lp-cedarish/docker/build-app#L5414:43
devkulkarnihttps://github.com/openstack/solum/commit/1ef122b27c281a0ca93f4300c4f245e4fdd69fa214:43
devkulkarnicheck the commit message14:43
devkulkarniso looks like we have more work for this14:44
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devkulkarniwe might to figure out which glance v2 flags are relevant and then change worker/shell.py to pass them to build_app/build_lp accordingly14:45
devkulkarnior, another option is to actually make change in devstack's plugin.sh to enable glance version 114:45
devkulkarniI remember reading in that email about it14:46
devkulkarnilet me quickly scan the email again14:46
vijendarok14:46
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devkulkarnivijendar: GLANCE_V1_ENABLED=True is what we need to set in settings/localrc for devstack plugin14:47
devkulkarnialthough the email mentions that nova won't work with glance v1 anymore14:47
devkulkarniin our devstack setup, we have moved away from using nova-docker to zun14:48
devkulkarnias long as zun is able to work with glance v1, making above change in our devstack setup might be fine14:48
vijendarI see14:49
devkulkarniin real world setups though this might not work if nova/compute is running on ocata14:49
devkulkarnilets see14:50
devkulkarniI had a quick question about keystone v3 support14:50
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devkulkarnidoes magnum support keystone v3? if so, can you share the code on the server side that enables v3 support?14:51
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devkulkarniwe have recently merged a patch that added keystone v3 support to python-solumclient14:51
devkulkarnibut now we need to figure out changes that need to be done on the solum api/server side14:51
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vijendardevkulkarni: I think magnum supports keystone v3 but not sure. I will check and confirm later14:52
devkulkarnivijendar: okay, sounds good14:53
devkulkarnivijendar: btw, our presentation for the boston summit did not go through.. but for the project we have got a fishbowl session14:53
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vijendardevkulkarni: yeah..I got an email :)14:54
devkulkarniyeah14:54
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devkulkarnimy travel plans for boston are not finalized yet.. but hopefully I can make it14:55
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devkulkarniwe have one slot for fishbowl and one slot for a forum14:55
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vijendarok14:56
devkulkarniwe are almost at the end of our meeting time14:56
devkulkarnianything that you have on mind to discuss?14:56
vijendarnothing from me14:56
devkulkarniok14:56
devkulkarniI think we had great discussion today14:56
devkulkarniplease keep us in the loop on the wsgi app goal14:57
vijendarsure14:57
devkulkarnicool, I will end the meeting then. see you next week.14:57
devkulkarnithanks for joining today vijendar, zhurong. see you next week14:57
devkulkarni#endmeeting14:58
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-03-15-14.00.log.html14:58
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Sukhdev_Folks, time for ML2 meeting15:01
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Sukhdev_Anybody here for ML2 meeting?15:03
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SwamiSukhdev_: time change.15:05
Swamihaleyb: ping15:06
Sukhdev_Swami : Yikes!!! you are right15:06
Sukhdev_So, looks like I am in the wrong room at wrong time :-):-)15:07
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SwamiI don't see haleyb in here. So let us cancel the neutron_dvr meeting today.15:13
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timsim#startmeeting designate16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 15 16:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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timsim#topic Roll Call16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'designate'16:00
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timsimping mugsie kiall blancos sonu16:01
Sukhdev_timsim : are you sure about your meeting timing and channel?16:01
timsimNope16:01
timsimOh shiz daylight savings16:01
timsimsorry my man16:01
mugsieyeah, an hour early16:01
timsim#endmeeting designate16:01
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Mar 15 16:01:56 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:01
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-16.00.html16:02
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timsimI hate daylight savings16:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-03-15-16.00.log.html16:02
timsimGood meeting :P16:02
asettleHEY DUDES16:02
asettleBye dudes16:02
* timsim is embarras16:02
Sukhdev_timsim : I was about to start ML2 meeting - you beat me by a click :-)16:02
timsimAll yours Sukhdev_16:02
Sukhdev_timsim : No worries - I did exactly the same an hour ago - was bumping into Swami's meeting16:03
* timsim feels better16:03
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Sukhdev_Folks - time for ML2 meeting16:03
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Sukhdev_rkukura : are you here>16:03
trevormco/16:03
trevormchi Sukhdev_16:04
Sukhdev_hi trevormc16:04
rkukurahi16:04
Sukhdev_Shall we get started16:04
rkukuraSukhdev_, dasanind said she cannot make it today16:05
Sukhdev_rkukura : shall I start the meeting or want to postpone to next week?16:05
rkukuraeither way is fine with me16:05
rkukuraI’m working on the extension semantics RFE but its not quite ready16:06
rkukuraI was hoping to discuss it today, but will post it soon16:06
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Sukhdev_trevormc : you are here for ML2 meeting - do you have any agenda item you want to cover -16:06
rkukuraso if noone else has anything to discuss today, we can skip16:06
trevormcI'm working on a QinQ network type driver, it should cover this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160422216:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1604222 in neutron "[RFE] Implement vlan transparent for openvswitch ML2 driver" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bo Chi (bochi-michael)16:06
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Sukhdev_trevormc: Oh yes16:07
trevormcI have a PoC to push up.. I still need to write the tests for it.16:07
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Sukhdev_hang on - let me start the meeting for the record16:07
trevormcshould I just upload it for us to see?16:07
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Sukhdev_#startmeeting networking_ml216:08
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 15 16:08:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:08
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Sukhdev_#topic: Agenda16:08
Sukhdev_#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_15.2C_201716:08
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Sukhdev_trevormc : yes16:08
trevormcok I will push it up in a moment16:08
Sukhdev_#topic: Anouncements16:09
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Sukhdev_I do not have any specific announcements - I missed neutron core meeting this week16:09
Sukhdev_anybody has any announcements for the team?16:09
Sukhdev_#topic: Enhanced Agenda Items16:10
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Sukhdev_We are adding two new items for discussion to the agenda16:10
Sukhdev_1) QinQ type driver16:11
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Sukhdev_2) ML2 Driver extension enforcement16:11
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trevormc_hey sorry my browser froze16:11
Sukhdev_rkukura : can you go first? while trevormc_ fixes the browser issue16:12
rkukuraactually, if I can have another couple minutes, I’ll post my RFE16:12
trevormcit may be16:13
Sukhdev_rkukura : sounds good - we are here16:13
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Sukhdev_trevormc_ : let me know when you are ready16:14
trevormc__Sukhdev_: ok, browser fixed now.16:14
Sukhdev_trevormc__ : cool - so, you go first while rkukura is wrapping up his RFE16:15
trevormc__https://review.openstack.org/44604716:15
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trevormc__I know there are some things wrong with this patch. I'm here to volunteer my time to develop and  debug.16:16
trevormc__I'm hoping neutron cores will push me in the right direction so we can land the new network type driver.16:17
Sukhdev_trevormc__ : makes sense16:17
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Sukhdev_#link: https://review.openstack.org/44604716:18
Sukhdev_trevormc__ : I will review this patch - one quick observation16:18
Sukhdev_I noticed you are adding new DB table. You may want to add the migration scripts as well16:19
trevormc__Please do! Or I can learn and do it myself.16:19
trevormc__There are a couple alternatives to this approach. I guess I shouldve put it in the commit message16:20
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Sukhdev_trevormc__ : it is very trivial step that needs to be added - but, we can worry about it later, lets first make sure this driver does the right things16:21
trevormc__Instead of adding another table there was talk about modifying the segmentation_id field to hold the values in a dictionary. I think the Trunk team wanted to use this too.16:21
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Sukhdev_trevormc__ : I like that approach as well -16:22
trevormc__I found it difficult to use the SegmentTypeDriver with that approach16:22
trevormc__because it relies on the allocated field.16:22
rkukurathere was a proposal a while back to generalize the “provider” attributes that may be worth digging up, but a dict might suffice16:22
Sukhdev_the idea of segmentation_type and segmentation_id is to be able to accomodate various types16:22
Sukhdev_rkukura : +116:23
Sukhdev_trevormc__ : you have RFE/Bug filed for this feature, right?16:24
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trevormc__Sukhdev, no RFE/bug is filed for specifically this.16:25
trevormc__I thought I could use https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160422216:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1604222 in neutron "[RFE] Implement vlan transparent for openvswitch ML2 driver" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bo Chi (bochi-michael)16:25
trevormc__because in the reviews sean commented he prefers a network type driver to solve this problem.16:25
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trevormc__https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342755/16:26
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Sukhdev_trevormc : I see -16:28
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Sukhdev_trevormc : So, if you want to use the same bug for this, then you should refer to it in your patch - so, that people can tie these together and get the history16:29
trevormcSukhdev_: ok I was just thinking about that16:29
Sukhdev_trevormc : right - update the commit message to include the appropriate links16:30
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Sukhdev_this week is very tight for me. I will try to review the patch and post comments either over the weekend or early next week -16:32
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Sukhdev_I am sure rkukura will have good feedback for you as well16:32
trevormcThank you, I will be working on the unit tests in the meantime.16:33
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rkukuraI’ll try - added myself as a reviewer16:33
Sukhdev_anything else on this type driver?16:33
trevormcno thats all, thanks.16:33
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Sukhdev_#topic: Extensions enforcement discussion16:34
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rkukuraOk16:34
Sukhdev_rkukura : are you ready?16:34
rkukuraAt the PTG, I had promised to file an RFE for this16:35
rkukuraI finally got to it this morning16:35
Sukhdev_excellent16:35
rkukura#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167314216:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1673142 in neutron "[RFE][ML2] Enforce extension semantics" [Undecided,New]16:35
rkukuraI tried to just capture what had been discussed at the PTG16:36
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rkukuraI think the only substantive change was realizing that the enforcement needed to be done entirely within the transacation that commits a port binding, otherwise extension values might change before the binding is committed16:36
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rkukuraThe RFE is a bit dense, so I don’t think it makes sense to review it in detail here now, but maybe we could discuss it next week16:37
Sukhdev_rkukura : right, I tried to scan through it - need time to review16:38
rkukuraI’ll post a link on the email thread that kevinbenton started on this16:39
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Sukhdev_rkukura : +116:39
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rkukurathat’s it for me16:39
Sukhdev_trevormc : you may want to review this as well - this may apply to the RFE that you shared with us at PTG16:40
Sukhdev_thanks rkukura16:40
trevormcSukhdev, I bookmarked it16:40
trevormcwill do16:41
Sukhdev_Anything else?16:41
rkukuranot from me16:42
trevormcnot from me either16:42
Sukhdev_since we do not have dasanind here, I am going to skip the port binding stuff - unless anybody has anything to discuss about it16:42
Sukhdev_#topic: Open Discussion16:42
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Sukhdev_The Boston summit is fast approaching -16:43
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Sukhdev_rkukura : you are going to be our official guide :-):-)16:44
rkukuraI’ll miss Monday, though16:44
Sukhdev_or shall I say I nominate you for the job :-)16:44
rkukurasnow should be gone by then16:45
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Sukhdev_we had 78 degrees yesterday - when you were dealing with the snow :-):-)16:45
rkukuraI was in FL for the last storm, so it was nice to be here this time16:46
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rkukuraof course it was only in the 50s and 60s last week when I was in SJC16:46
Sukhdev_as long as you are having fun - that is what matters...16:47
rkukuraright16:47
Sukhdev_I can stand snow for a day or so... not more than that16:47
rkukuralets wrap up so I can get some lunch ;)16:47
Sukhdev_I am chicken :-):-)16:47
trevormc+116:47
Sukhdev_OK -16:47
Sukhdev_Thanks for discussion folks16:48
Sukhdev_bye16:48
trevormc\o16:48
rkukurathanks Sukhdev_!16:48
Sukhdev_#endmeeting16:48
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rkukurabye16:48
openstackMeeting ended Wed Mar 15 16:48:13 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:48
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 15 17:02:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'designate'17:02
mugsieo/17:02
timsim#topic Roll Call17:02
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mugsieo/17:02
sonuko/17:02
timsimGot it right this time :P17:02
timsimping Kiall blancos17:02
mugsie:D17:02
timsim#topic Announcements17:03
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kiallo/ (but on a call)17:03
timsimCongrats sonuk on getting an accepted summit talk!17:03
sonuktimsim: thanks17:03
mugsienice17:03
timsimAlso our docs are sexy now https://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/ sup asettle17:03
asettleHey hey17:03
asettleOohhhhh17:03
asettleFLASHY17:03
asettleLook at all that organisation17:04
asettleIt's so fresh17:04
reedipsonuk congrats17:04
timsimfreshhh2death17:04
timsim#topic Action Items from last week17:04
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mugsietimsim: you are so luck i cannot kick yuo right now :P17:04
mugsielucky*17:04
timsimWhat'd I do? Jealous of my swag?17:04
timsim2legit2quit17:04
asettleWow. The legitimacy hurts.17:05
timsimboom17:05
timsim#action timsim to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/166829017:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1668290 in Designate "First call to designate-worker raise error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim)17:05
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timsimI kinda looked at this, I think the periodic sync task might fix it17:05
timsimbut I'ma leave it as an action17:05
timsimThat was it17:06
timsim#topic Bug Triage17:06
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timsimJust this beautiful one https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/167163617:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1671636 in Designate "Erroneous 'not found' logs in mdns on NOTIFYs" [Undecided,New]17:06
timsimfrom eandersson17:06
timsim<3 that guy17:06
timsimIt's just a bad log message that's super confusing I think.17:06
timsimI was going to tag it high and low-hanging-fruit17:06
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mugsiesounds good17:07
timsim#topic Stable Backport Triage17:07
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timsim#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/602903/17:08
timsimAs usual, see if there's anything worth of bp17:08
* timsim doesn't think anything is17:08
mugsienope17:08
timsimalrighty17:09
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:09
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timsimAnyone have anything?17:09
asettleYesss17:09
asettleI just posted in the chan17:09
asettleDang mugsie timsim when you're off the meeting: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/17:09
asettleOn the left hand panel17:09
asettleIt counts "Designate, a DNSaaS component..."A17:09
asettleAs a friggin toc tree level17:09
mugsieyeah - the the way sphinx does toc trees - the page title is the root17:10
asettleHmmm lemme try something17:10
mugsieits a pain17:10
timsimmeh17:10
timsimAnyone interested plz review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444518/17:10
mugsiewe also have a problem17:10
mugsiehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/445069/17:10
mugsieloks like the new version of oslo config breaks us17:11
timsimoh boy17:11
mugsieit causes the rmq connect to break17:11
mugsiewhen the api auth sedction is filled in17:11
timsimYou think that's what the 504's are? I thought we'd been seeing that for a little while17:11
mugsieno, if you look at the resonces it is something someonje else saw17:12
mugsiehttp://replygif.net/i/1554.gif17:12
mugsieI have no idea yet17:12
timsimWhat responses?17:13
mugsiethe oslo.messaging ones17:13
mugsiein the service logs17:13
timsimAh ok. fun. I'll take alook at that later today17:13
timsimAnyone have anything else?17:13
sonuktimsim: are we thinking of supporting active standby HA for designate using pacemaker by writing any custom ofc resource agent .17:14
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timsimNot really sure why you'd want to17:14
sonuktimsim: i was testing that use case17:15
timsimYou could light up a standby designate environment essentially by having a replicated database, and then when you need to failover starting a few services and flipping the API endpoint from the busted to happy environment.17:15
timsimHaving failover DNS servers is more complicated I guess.17:16
mugsieyeah17:16
sonuktimsim: right17:16
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timsimIf you want to chat about that more, feel free in #openstack-dns!17:17
timsimAnything else?17:17
timsimGoing once...17:17
sonuktimsim: sure17:17
mugsienope - i am good17:17
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timsimtwice17:18
timsim#endmeeting designate17:18
timsimo/17:18
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amrith#startmeeting trove18:00
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amrithhi trevor18:01
amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:01
amrithwhich I'm just updating now ...18:02
amrithcourtesy ping to peterstac johnma slicknik dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik18:02
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amrithwe don't have anything specific on the agenda today18:03
amrithso this may be a very short meeting18:03
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amrithdo you have anything specific trevor?18:03
trevormcnothing really.18:04
trevormcThere are these changes I made last week18:04
trevormchttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove+file:doc+owner:%22Trevor+McCasland+%253CTM2086%2540att.com%253E%2218:04
trevormcbut they are just for the docs. I noticed the automatic plugin documentation was not working.18:04
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trevormcI was just trying to fix some low hanging fruits. shouldnt be too bad to review, given the jenkins +118:05
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amrithI'm trying to get the gate going again18:06
amriththe fix merged yesterday18:06
amrithto get it running on master18:06
amrithstable branches are still busted18:06
amrithwill cherry-pick there18:06
trevormcyeah I saw that, and rechecked my +2'd patch18:06
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trevormcstill seeing failures. "Wait for resize instance flavor to complete. "18:08
amrithyes, those are one of the common failures that we see18:08
amrithanyway, if there's nothing more to discuss, I'm going to wind up this meeting and go back to getting the gate to run with containers18:09
trevormcsounds good.18:09
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amrithsounds like the meeting is ... going ...18:11
amrith... going ...18:11
amrithgone18:11
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
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johnsomCongrats to those that followed DST changed the time...20:00
xgermano/20:00
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xgermanI learned my lesson over the years to put in my appointment in UTC20:00
johnsom#topic Announcements20:00
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johnsomYep, me too20:01
rm_workplz invite me to your meeting :P20:01
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johnsomrm_work will do20:01
johnsomWe have four presentations for the Boston Summit.  Should be busy.20:01
johnsomHands on Lab: Octavia20:01
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17583/hands-on-lab-octavia20:02
johnsomOctavia: Load Balancing for OpenStack20:02
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17859/octavia-load-balancing-for-openstack20:02
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johnsomProject Update - Octavia20:02
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18611/project-update-octavia20:02
johnsomIntroduction to OpenStack Load Balancing20:02
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17862/introduction-to-openstack-load-balancing20:02
johnsomSo that is awesome20:02
johnsomI will get started on the slides maybe next week.  I plan to do the google doc thing again so folks can contribute.20:03
johnsomAnother announcement is our shiny new repos merged today20:04
xgermancool - rm_work wonde rif youstill have the scripts we used for the last lab20:04
diltramo/20:04
johnsompython-octaviaclient - For our OpenStack Client plugin20:04
johnsomoctavia-dashboard - A copy of the neutron-lbaas-dashboard that will target the new Octavia endpoint20:04
rm_workxgerman: hmmm, i had some thoughts about that20:04
rm_workbut we'll talk :P20:04
xgermansounds good20:05
johnsomoctavia-tempest-plugin - Tempest plugin repo to get ahead of the proposed queens goal and we can clean up our Tempest situation20:05
johnsomAny other announcements or questions?20:05
rm_worktopic of the day is octavia/dib co-gate i think20:06
rm_workbut we'll get to that in ... open discussion?20:06
xgermanopenstack-ansible for Ocavia has merged20:06
johnsomThe octavia core team has access, but I setup separate ACLs so we can have others for specific repos.20:06
johnsomxgerman Nice!!!!  +10020:06
diltramxgerman: awesome :)20:06
diltramI'm gonna test it in near future20:07
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xgermancool20:07
johnsomYeah, I am anxious to try it out too.  Won't have time for a bit, but excited.20:07
johnsomNow if we can just convince diltram to send us all NUCs....20:08
diltram:P20:08
diltramno way20:08
diltramthey mine20:08
* johnsom thought he would try....20:08
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:08
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xgermanmaybe we should port it to rasperry pi20:08
xgermanI am telling you embedded OpenStack will be huge, or bigly20:09
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johnsomI am trying to get testing done on the LB API patch.   Had a hiccup yesterday, but will be back on that today.20:09
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rm_workeasy one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446144/20:09
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johnsomYep, done20:09
xgermanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/303304/20:09
johnsomI know that passes as it was in the other patch earlier20:10
diltramrm_work: I'm gonna wait for test results20:10
rm_workright20:10
rm_workdo that :P20:10
rm_workbut it'll pass20:10
rm_workah yeah it did already20:10
johnsomxgerman it looks like it has a pep8 issue?20:10
diltrambut it was fixed20:11
xgermanhuh20:11
xgermanok, we will sort that out20:11
diltramit's again the E40220:11
johnsomAh, that is a quick fix20:11
rm_workdiltram: gate-octavia-tox-functional-py35-ubuntu-xenial: SUCCESS20:12
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johnsomGrin20:12
johnsomOk, if nothing else here, moving on20:12
johnsom#topic Team mascot20:13
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johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-mascot20:13
johnsomLooks like we have a tie20:13
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johnsompeacock or tree with roots20:13
johnsomThough I am still partial to canary.... hahaha20:13
xgerman#vote, #vote20:14
johnsomHas everyone voted?20:14
diltramrm_work: I'm still not seeing results :P20:14
diltramjohnsom: I voted20:14
xgermanme, too20:14
rm_workdiltram: look in zuul :P20:15
rm_workshould we do a second round with limited options??20:15
johnsom#startvote Team mascot? Peacock, Tree20:15
openstackBegin voting on: Team mascot? Valid vote options are Peacock, Tree.20:15
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.20:15
johnsomJust to honor dougwig20:15
diltram#vote Tree20:16
rm_workyou could have gotten canary in there20:16
rm_workah well20:16
johnsom#vote Peacock20:16
rm_work#vote Canary20:16
openstackrm_work: Canary is not a valid option. Valid options are Peacock, Tree.20:16
johnsomhahaha20:16
rm_work#vote Tree20:16
diltramrm_work: :P20:17
xgerman#vote peacock20:17
johnsomalways a joker in the crowd20:17
rm_workin what way is a peacock load-balancing exactly?20:17
m-greene-#vote peacock20:17
rm_workwas trying to understand that20:17
johnsomSomething about fanning out..20:17
rm_workah20:17
m-greene-too bad ‘hydra’ isn’t an option20:17
rm_worki mean roots are literally load-bearing20:17
rm_workbut no big deal :P20:17
rm_workwait20:18
xgermanit is now ;-)20:18
rm_workis it not?20:18
diltramrm_work: when I will see jenkins +120:18
rm_workHEIL HYDRA20:18
m-greene-no mythical creatures?20:18
rm_workfff20:18
johnsomRight20:18
rm_work#vote Ignore the stupid "no mythical creatures rule"? Yes, Duh20:18
openstackrm_work: Ignore the stupid "no mythical creatures rule"? Yes, Duh is not a valid option. Valid options are Peacock, Tree.20:18
johnsomI like the root thing20:18
johnsom#vote Tree20:19
rm_workah that was supposed to be startvote20:19
rm_workah well20:19
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johnsomGoing once.....20:19
johnsomGoing twice....20:19
rm_work#vote Tree20:19
johnsom#endvote20:19
openstackVoted on "Team mascot?" Results are20:19
openstackPeacock (2): m-greene-, xgerman20:19
openstackTree (3): diltram, rm_work, johnsom20:19
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johnsomI will follow up with the foundation and they will give us some renderings20:19
rm_workboth of those are very calm20:19
rm_worknot like Fire or Supernova20:20
diltramrm_work: your patch is failing on lbaasv2-dsvm20:20
rm_workTree implies solid, reliable20:20
johnsomIs perelman here today?20:20
rm_workdiltram: false positive, OVH, 99% sure20:20
rm_worklet me check20:20
rm_workI didn't change anything that would run there :P20:20
rm_workoh, neutron-lbaasv2?20:21
rm_workeverything fails those20:21
diltramyep20:21
johnsomOk, skipping Act/Act discussion.  Same status as last week20:21
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johnsom#topic flavors20:21
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rm_workuntil DIB releases20:21
rm_workI think20:21
johnsomAny updates on the flavors spec?20:21
xgermanwell, we might recap the Walmart meet20:21
rm_workoh the API too, weird20:21
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/39248520:22
rm_workdiltram: neutron-lbaas bug20:22
diltramI see20:22
johnsomxgerman Yeah, that is a good idea.  Coming up.20:22
rm_workdiltram: http://logs.openstack.org/44/446144/1/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api-ubuntu-xenial/8cdc9d8/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-03-15_19_54_15_75420:22
johnsomOk, no update on flavors either.20:22
johnsom#topic When should we lock neutron-lbaas for new features?20:23
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m-greene-I haven’t reviwed again since PTG20:23
rm_work#vote right now20:23
rm_work#vote last cycle20:23
johnsomWe are getting enhancement patches on neutron-lbaas.  This is going to get ugly with the API move work.20:23
m-greene-(flavors spec), no response comments from original author20:23
xgermanok, that wa striggered by #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445274/20:23
johnsomm-greene- I think it is a spec without an owner at the moment.20:23
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xgermanbut we need to announce it properly and not pull the rug from people20:24
diltramjohnsom: I had to tell you but I agree with rm_work20:24
johnsomxgerman Yep.  That is why I wanted to talk about the timing.20:24
xgermanalso are there any more blueprints we failed to mark down20:24
johnsomI am happy to send out something saying Pike-1 is it.20:24
xgerman+120:24
nmagnezio/20:24
nmagnezisorry to be late20:24
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diltramhey20:25
johnsomI think the neutron PTLs have archived any legacy blueprints for neutron-lbaas20:25
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johnsomI have moved all of the bugs/RFEs over already20:25
rm_workdiltram: ugh and that gate is voting. this sucks20:25
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rm_work\o/ our gate is broken again woo20:26
xgermanI just want to make sure that we don;t see a feature appear and then somenody points to some bleuprint we ignored20:26
johnsomSo any objection to sending out a e-mail marking Pike-1 feature freeze for neutron-lbaas?20:26
xgermanno, go for it —20:26
nmagnezinop20:26
johnsomxgerman I would point them to contribute the code to Octavia repo.20:27
xgermanit seems Heat are the biggest obstacle so ight be worth to reach out to them infromally20:27
johnsomIt's not like we are halting load balancing work, just shifting the location20:27
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xgermanyep, but they will whine that we don;t have migration ready, etc.20:27
diltramwhy heat would want to use any migration scripts?20:28
johnsomThey can keep using neutron-lbaas and we will still need to handle bugs, it's just new features20:28
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xgermanyep, I am just playing devil’s advocate20:28
johnsomI think it is in reference to the v1 person that missed the memos two years ago....20:28
diltram:P20:29
xgermanI have seen people being concerned about LBaaS V2->Octavia migration20:29
nmagnezixgerman, is that a another idea for a mascot? :)20:29
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johnsomHA20:29
xgermanlol20:29
m-greene-macot = ‘groundhog day20:30
m-greene- where every day I get asked about v1-v2 upgrade20:30
johnsomOk, Let's start the flame wars and mark Pike-1 feature freeze for neutron-lbaas.  I will also reach out to kevinbenton20:30
xgerman+120:30
johnsom#topic Walmart Act/Act meeting20:31
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johnsomWe had a nice chat/presentation from some folks a Walmart that have done a proof of concept Act/Act implementation20:31
nmagnezijohnsom, did they share the presentation / submited anything else?20:31
xgermanthey promised to share20:32
johnsomThey are using a hybrid anycast / resiliant hashing ECMP20:32
johnsomThe slides they had included a lot of internal stuff, but they will write up a spec with the details20:32
johnsomSo we can all review and comment20:33
johnsomIt sounds good though.  Looking forward to the spec20:33
xgerman+120:33
diltram+120:33
xgermanthey are also adding a BGP soeaker to the amp image20:33
johnsomMy one concern is we need to land some of the base act/act stuff20:33
johnsomYep, forgot that part.20:34
xgermanabout act/act I have been told that stick-tables don’t scale20:34
johnsomxgerman That is true.  The spec calls out they will be grouped20:34
xgermank20:35
johnsomAny other comments about the proposal?20:35
johnsomNext step is a spec20:35
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:36
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xgermanok, we have seen two proposals to extebd the lb create20:36
xgerman#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445274/20:36
xgermanamnd QoS20:37
xgerman#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441912/20:37
xgermanI am wondering if we want to keep tham as one-offs or have a more integarted approach20:38
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xgermanI can see FWaaS or whatever can be dangled on the port in] the future…20:39
rm_workdiltram: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446169/20:39
rm_workwe put ours up at the same time20:39
johnsomYeah.  Personally I don't mind extending the API when it makes sense.20:39
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rm_workbut i realized for round 2 that it isn't quite that simple20:39
rm_workdiltram: see what i ended up doing20:39
diltramsaw it20:39
johnsomxgerman Did you have a proposal for a different approach?20:40
diltramrm_work: done the same :P20:40
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rm_worklol20:40
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xgermanwe talked about “cloning” the port earlier20:40
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rm_workdiltram: no i mean, now20:40
rm_workdiltram: patchset 220:40
diltramrm_work: you need to remove also this linux.interface20:40
xgermanor expose the port for people to add suff20:41
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diltrambut even now you can specify the port20:41
rm_workdiltram: ah _INTERFACE_DRIVER_OPTS could be used directly, got it20:41
diltramso where is the problem?20:41
xgermanwe don’t really use that port for anyhting20:41
johnsomI am not a huge fan of exposing the port and letting end users mess with it in a non-controlled way.  It seems like it could break things like failover20:41
xgermanon the other hand if we control those things we have to fix stuff when they break us20:42
johnsomLike what happened with the DNS being auto enabled on the ports20:42
xgermanyeah20:42
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diltramrm_work: abandon your patch, we need to merge this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352471/920:42
rm_workah k finally20:42
rm_workwait but that misses a spot T_T20:43
rm_workfff20:43
rm_worklol20:43
rm_worki can fix it20:43
xgermanI have no good answer neither it just doesn’t feel like core LB functionality20:43
johnsomdiltram That won't merge as it's dependent hasn't merged20:43
rm_workactually it doesn't do a complete job20:43
diltramjohnsom: removed the tag20:43
rm_workoh right20:43
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rm_worknah this depends on ANOTHER patch20:44
johnsomxgerman Yeah, but there is overlap.  Many LBs also do things like QoS and ACLs20:44
rm_workwe'll want to merge mine i think and remove that part from this one20:44
rm_workdegorenko: ^^20:44
rm_workerr20:44
rm_workdiltram:20:44
xgermanok, since we are all distracted by patches should we defer or just deal with the one-offs as they appear20:44
johnsomI could see value in being able to accept some of those settings and either use neutron or pass it through to the driver20:45
xgermanyep, I like us to be a bit decoupled as well20:45
rm_workdiltram: yeah this patch is totally different actually20:45
johnsomm-greene- What are your thoughts about QoS and ACLs?  Is that something you could see implementing in your driver in the future?20:45
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johnsomOr would you lean towards just using neutron for those?20:46
johnsomWe might have lost him...20:47
xgermanyep20:47
m-greene-If ACLs ::= security group rules/policies, yes, our customers have interest in us off-loading that from each compute node to an appliance for more performance20:47
m-greene-that’s more “perimeter defense” stuff.. QoS is more traffic-shaping and I don’t know as much20:48
johnsomOk, good info.20:48
xgermanyep, we might need to push the current proposals to delegate the specifics to a driver20:49
m-greene-that would be a fwaas driver though ;)  xgerman was trying to recruit me at PTG20:49
johnsomSo that leans more towards we have an API for that sort of thing20:49
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xgermannah, fwaas is doing it’s thing alright20:49
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m-greene-ACls => L2-L4 tuple, not so much on L7 which already exists in lbaas, right?20:50
xgermanjohnsom not only an API but also a driver20:50
xgermanwell, people like to pass in security groups20:50
johnsomYes and yes20:50
m-greene-pass in , as in attach an object Id ala barbican container ID20:51
xgermanyep20:51
johnsomI don't like the security group thing.  Again, it speaks of trouble.  I would lean more towards an ACL api like we have for L720:51
xgermanok, we can also use Common Classifiers for our ACLs20:51
johnsomIt would also limit the vendor drivers.20:52
johnsomHa, haven't looked at that stuff in a while20:52
m-greene-I use that reference becasue SG already exists, and I thought FWaaSv2 was going to supercede SG and combine in higher-level policy abstraction20:52
xgerman#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333993/20:52
xgermanm-greene correct20:52
xgermanyeah, I don’t think we need to re-invent that wheel20:53
johnsomInteresting20:53
xgermanwell, so basically we allow people to pass in a sg-id and we do soemthign meaningful with it or we make them give us their rules in some format20:53
xgermanI prefer the former20:54
johnsomAnd what happens when they change it's definition?20:54
xgermanthen things change20:54
johnsomOr can you not change the definition, just make a new one?20:54
m-greene-in octavia wouldn’t we want the same behavior for SG, barbican and eventually flavor?20:54
m-greene-octavia download and dump the objects contents into the service def passed to the worker?20:55
xgermanyep, that’s why I am bringing that up — we should come up with a party-line20:55
m-greene-or vendor driver20:55
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johnsomRight, barbican you can't change the contents, only give us a new ID20:55
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johnsomFlavor is kind of the same thing, set it once per LB20:55
m-greene-is the broader request for LBaaS to start enforcing sec policy?20:56
xgermansecurity groups you can delete, add rules, etc.20:56
johnsomSG can be updated outside of our knowledge20:56
xgermanyep20:56
m-greene-just like barbi20:56
m-greene-can20:56
xgermanno barbican is create/read - no update20:56
johnsomRigth20:56
m-greene-not now20:56
johnsomI'm not sure either solution solves the one security group request I heard.  It was about leveraging some transitive trust to work around some kubernetes issues.20:58
johnsomWell, we are about out of time.  Let's think about this more and bring it up as a topic again.20:58
xgermanok20:58
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johnsomThanks folks for joining and your input.20:59
johnsomChat with you next week or in the channel.20:59
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xgermano/20:59
m-greene-well this becomes very interesting with containers… LBaaS is traditionally north-south for ingress traffic to a tenant (web app). so sec gropus come in to play for east-west lb between containers within a tenant?20:59
nmagnezio/20:59
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