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| szaher | #startmeeting freezer | 14:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 14:03:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:03 |
| szaher | Hello everyone | 14:04 |
| slashme | Hi szaher :) | 14:04 |
| szaher | Hi slashme | 14:04 |
| yangyapeng | hi szaher slashme | 14:04 |
| raliev | hi slashme, szaher | 14:04 |
| szaher | Please take a look at this link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings and feel free to add whatever topics you want to discuss in today's meeting | 14:05 |
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| szaher | Ok, Let's Start :) | 14:07 |
| szaher | #topic API v2 and Multi-tenancy | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API v2 and Multi-tenancy (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:07 | |
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| szaher | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449686/ | 14:08 |
| szaher | We need to fully support freezer multitenancy, doing so will require a big change in Freezer-api so I think moving to v2 will be good for now | 14:08 |
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| vnogin | hi guys | 14:09 |
| szaher | Also as we move on we need to move to oslo_db which will break backward compatibility so v1 will be deprecated by end of this cycle | 14:09 |
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| szaher | so oslo_db patch needs to be based on API v2 as it will be the current or the stable one by the end of this cycle (Pike) | 14:10 |
| szaher | Please review the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449686/ and your comments are most welcomed | 14:11 |
| szaher | new elasticsearch driver added to change everything to project_id instead of user id | 14:11 |
| szaher | there will be another patch after this one that will remove completely the user_id or make it optional | 14:11 |
| szaher | Also we need to allow freezerclient to be able to communicate with v2 instead of v1 | 14:12 |
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| dstepanenko | hi everyone :) | 14:14 |
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| szaher | any ideas, thoughts ? | 14:14 |
| dstepanenko | it seems that I missed something | 14:15 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: Hi :) | 14:15 |
| szaher | We are talking about API v2 and Multi-tenancy | 14:16 |
| szaher | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449686/ | 14:16 |
| yangyapeng | dstepanenko: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449686/ | 14:16 |
| vnogin | szaher: so does it mean that we don't want to have backward compatibility? | 14:16 |
| dstepanenko | Saad, I believe things should be done using 2 separate patchsets - the first one should introduce oslo.db itself and the second one should add multitenance and refactor all the existing code which doesn't support multitenancy (actually it supports but in a bit weird way) | 14:17 |
| szaher | vnogin: I think we can support backward compatibility somehow | 14:17 |
| yangyapeng | if we should have oslo_db completed | 14:17 |
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| vnogin | yangyapeng: agree | 14:17 |
| vnogin | szaher: another question - do we need it? | 14:18 |
| dstepanenko | and one more argument to do it in 2 separate patchsets is that doing this is in 1 patchset will make reviewing process way longer | 14:18 |
| szaher | vnogin: need v2 or multi-tenancy ? | 14:18 |
| vnogin | szaher: v1 - v2 | 14:18 |
| szaher | vnogin: I was discussing it with the API WG in PTG in Atlanta and It seems as we're going to have a big change we need it | 14:19 |
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| vnogin | szaher: I see, thanks | 14:20 |
| szaher | the url will change from http://127.0.0.1:9090/v1/jobs to http://127.0.0.1:9090/v2/e80d32749ff84fc2ad59dafaebf13921/jobs | 14:20 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: I didn't touch oslo_db | 14:20 |
| dstepanenko | oh sorry, I missed bookmark in browser | 14:20 |
| dstepanenko | my bad | 14:21 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: my patchset is all about api v2 and multi-tenancy, the commit message just indicates that this will be useful for oslo_db patch | 14:21 |
| szaher | :) | 14:21 |
| szaher | np :) | 14:21 |
| szaher | OK, I will work on the comments in this patch | 14:22 |
| vnogin | e80d32749ff84fc2ad59dafaebf13921 - doesn't look attractive :)) LOL | 14:22 |
| szaher | Please keep an eye on it guys :) | 14:22 |
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| szaher | szaher: It's just a random ID :D LOL | 14:23 |
| vnogin | yep :)) | 14:23 |
| szaher | vnogin: I was tagging you not myself :) :D | 14:23 |
| szaher | Ok, Anything to be added ? Move on ? | 14:23 |
| vnogin | szaher: move on | 14:24 |
| dstepanenko | szaher: I didn't review this patch yet, need some time to dive into it. Gonna take a look into it | 14:24 |
| szaher | #topic OS-brick Cinder Engine | 14:24 |
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| szaher | dstepanenko: Sure :) | 14:24 |
| szaher | raliev | 14:24 |
| raliev | yep | 14:25 |
| raliev | i can tell about this :) | 14:25 |
| szaher | I just wanted to ask do we expect it to be landing soon :) | 14:25 |
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| raliev | of course | 14:26 |
| raliev | so, in general it completed | 14:26 |
| raliev | in fact, i want to refactor some things related to mount process | 14:26 |
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| raliev | after that i'll remove wip label | 14:27 |
| szaher | Ok Nice, can we review it now ? | 14:27 |
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| raliev | not yet, after third patchset :) | 14:28 |
| szaher | raliev: for tenant backups can we use osbrick engine to backup all volumes in a tenant or use a different cinder engine (hopefully we going to have it soon :) | 14:28 |
| szaher | raliev: Ok, will wait for you next patchset of-course :) | 14:28 |
| raliev | actually, i'm not sure that os-brick functionality allows to backup all volumes in tenant | 14:29 |
| szaher | raliev: Ok, Let's use normal cinder engine for now :) | 14:31 |
| raliev | so, os-brick engine (for now) will provide backup volume's content | 14:31 |
| raliev | single volume i mean | 14:32 |
| szaher | Yes, As you need to mount the volume and start backing up it's content | 14:32 |
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| raliev | right | 14:33 |
| szaher | Ok cool!, Thanks raliev :) Good job | 14:34 |
| szaher | so guys we need to review raliev's patchset hopefully after patchset 3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447629/ | 14:34 |
| szaher | Questions, ideas, ... ? | 14:35 |
| dstepanenko | there is also oslo.db very first patch | 14:35 |
| raliev | yep, like daemontool says - your -1 are welcome :) | 14:35 |
| dstepanenko | 2nd patch is in progress | 14:35 |
| dstepanenko | could you please also take a look into it | 14:35 |
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| dstepanenko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441207/ | 14:36 |
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| szaher | dstepanenko: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings :D | 14:36 |
| szaher | Ok Let's move on next topic oslo_db ? | 14:37 |
| szaher | #topic Oslo_db patch | 14:37 |
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| szaher | dstepanenko: Is it ready to be reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441207/ ? | 14:37 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: Can we start reviewing your patch ? | 14:39 |
| dstepanenko | yes | 14:39 |
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| szaher | Ok Cool Thanks dstepanenko :) | 14:40 |
| szaher | so guys your +1 -1 are appreciated on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441207/ | 14:40 |
| szaher | anyone wants to add anything, dstepanenko ? move on ? | 14:41 |
| dstepanenko | nope, everything is inside this patch :) the 2nd one with most of logic is coming soon | 14:41 |
| vnogin | dstepanenko: is it possible to add release note for this patch? | 14:42 |
| szaher | vnogin: +1 | 14:42 |
| dstepanenko | ok, will do | 14:42 |
| vnogin | dstepanenko: thanks Dima :) | 14:42 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: will it be too much If I asked you to document it in the install-guide ? | 14:43 |
| vnogin | szaher: great idea | 14:43 |
| dstepanenko | szaher: I'm going to create kind of deployment script with inline comments. Not sure about the best form of this | 14:43 |
| dstepanenko | I think I can create doc for it | 14:44 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: you mean deploying the db schema ? | 14:44 |
| dstepanenko | szaher: yes | 14:44 |
| szaher | I think the best way is to add it to freezer-manage which reads from the configuration file | 14:44 |
| vnogin | yep | 14:45 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: I've submitted a patch and it's merged now to have module dbs so hopefully we can keep elasticsearch with oslo_db supported at the same time for a while then we takeout elasticsearch | 14:46 |
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| szaher | s/module/moduler/g | 14:46 |
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| dstepanenko | szaher: oh, yep, I forgot about freezer-manage. It's a good idea to use it | 14:47 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: Cool :) | 14:47 |
| vnogin | szaher: there is some problems with ES for puppet-freezer and I want MySql :) | 14:47 |
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| szaher | vnogin: you can keep the puppet-freezer supporting mysql only if you want :) | 14:47 |
| vnogin | szaher: sure :) | 14:48 |
| vnogin | szaher: however it's not a good way, I think :) | 14:48 |
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| szaher | vnogin: :D | 14:48 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: Thanks for your effort :) | 14:48 |
| szaher | vnogin: Thanks for the effort :D :) | 14:49 |
| szaher | move on ? | 14:49 |
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| vnogin | szaher: np :) | 14:49 |
| vnogin | yep | 14:49 |
| szaher | #topic Cinder Engine | 14:49 |
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| szaher | I will do the same with cinder backups and move it to cinder engine, same like nova | 14:49 |
| yangyapeng | hello ， The hotel's network is so slow | 14:49 |
| szaher | raliev are you Ok with that ? | 14:49 |
| yangyapeng | If I have missed something | 14:50 |
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| szaher | anyway I will start working on it once we get the os-brick done | 14:50 |
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| raliev | i don't mind | 14:51 |
| szaher | raliev: I'm not sure if we can make os-brick cinder engine uses rsync to backup volumes :) that will be nice | 14:51 |
| szaher | Let's talk about in freezer room as we're running out of time | 14:51 |
| szaher | #topic Heat resources specs for Freezer | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Heat resources specs for Freezer (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:51 | |
| szaher | yangyapeng: any updates ? I still see -1 on your patch :) | 14:52 |
| szaher | anything we can help with ? | 14:52 |
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| yangyapeng | i have a update about -1 | 14:52 |
| szaher | I know you're away now (for a business trip ) can we get it done by next week ? | 14:52 |
| vnogin | it's OK :) just fixing some typo issues :) | 14:52 |
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| yangyapeng | vnogin: thank you, i get it | 14:53 |
| szaher | Ok, cool whoever can help yangyapeng that will be nice :) | 14:53 |
| vnogin | yangyapeng: :) sorry for -1 anyway :) | 14:53 |
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| szaher | move on ? | 14:54 |
| vnogin | + | 14:54 |
| szaher | #topic Mistral workflows specs for Freezer | 14:54 |
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| yangyapeng | vnogin: :) welcome -1 haha | 14:54 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: Can we do a mistral specs same like heat :) ? | 14:54 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: you became an expert now for interacting with other projects :D | 14:54 |
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| yangyapeng | szaher: i Can write mistral, but maybe next week | 14:55 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: np take your time :) | 14:56 |
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| szaher | yangyapeng: Thanks for your efforst :) :D | 14:56 |
| szaher | #topic Packaging rpm, deb | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Packaging rpm, deb (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:56 | |
| szaher | vnogin: any updates ? | 14:56 |
| yangyapeng | szaher: OK , thank you. | 14:57 |
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| vnogin | I've discussed it with RDO and Ubuntu guys, and it will take a lot of time. Also we decided with puppet community to use PyPi at the moment. | 14:58 |
| szaher | vnogin: Ok, we can discuss more in freezer room. Let's see if we can get some help on that | 14:58 |
| szaher | vnogin: Thanks :) | 14:58 |
| vnogin | szaher: sure :) | 14:59 |
| slashme | Thank you szaher :) | 14:59 |
| szaher | I think we're going to leave developer docs for now :) | 14:59 |
| szaher | Thank You guys and have a good (day, evening ) :D | 14:59 |
| vnogin | thanks guys, bb | 14:59 |
| szaher | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 14:59:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| yangyapeng | thank you guys. | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-03-30-14.03.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-03-30-14.03.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-03-30-14.03.log.html | 14:59 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 15:00:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:01 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:01 |
| dustins | \o | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| zhongjun_ | hi | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:01 |
| markstur | hello | 15:01 |
| jprovazn | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | I don't have any announcements today but I wanted to remind you all that Pike-1 is 2 weeks away | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | I'm reviewing specs today | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | I know several of them are ready and just waiting | 15:02 |
| zhongjun_ | good news | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic ensure share | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ensure share (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446494 | 15:03 |
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| tommylikehu_ | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: you're up | 15:03 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: thanks, According to your advice, I add two methods to slove ensure share problem in spec. | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:03 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:03 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: I am not sure which one is better for manila? | 15:04 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | zhongjun_: based on our discussion earlier, I don't think we should be prioritizing things such as avoiding restarting m-shr with this feature | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | avoiding m-shr restarts _is_ a valuable goal, but it's unrelated to ensure_share IMO | 15:05 |
| ganso | to add some context: one method is automatic detection/flag of shares that need to run ensure, and the other is using CLI to do so when admin wants | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | ensure_share is about being as smart as we can about handling issues that might occur when we do restart the service | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | in particular dealing with the effects of software upgrades | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | either the manila software itself or the backend software/configuration | 15:06 |
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| zhongjun_ | ok, We could open another patch to sovle the things that we don't need to restart | 15:07 |
| bswartz | if there are enhancements we can make that allow is to "fix" some things without restarting which currently do require a restart, then I'd like to see that proposed separately | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I don't know if others have different opinions -- that's how I think about it | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | zhongjun_: based on my reading of the current version of the spec, I think we might need to split some content out of this spec into a separate one | 15:10 |
| markstur | the biggest problem with the current ensure_share is that it was misunderstood and new driver developers were unclear about what they should do with it | 15:10 |
| bswartz | yeah | 15:10 |
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| zhongjun_ | bswartz: but forget about without restarting, we still have two methods. I still need to concider all problems. | 15:11 |
| bswartz | I want to stick to the model where it's called once on driver startup for some subset of the shares on that backend (possibly all, possibly none) | 15:11 |
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| markstur | the on_restart() concept seems clear, but we'll need to make sure it looks clear to a newbie in the end | 15:11 |
| bswartz | the problem today is that it's always all shares, and drivers do whatever they want there | 15:12 |
| markstur | what subset? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | markstur: that's what we need to define | 15:12 |
| ganso | bswartz: for that the share needs to be flagged as needing to be "ensured" | 15:12 |
| markstur | ahh | 15:12 |
| bswartz | ganso: I think we can do better than that | 15:12 |
| bswartz | who does the flagging? | 15:12 |
| ganso | bswartz: zhongjun_ has two methods to perform that flagging: on demand CLI and automatic | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | I'd like to focus on the automatic | 15:13 |
| bswartz | on-demand maintenance is fine, but it's objectively worse than automatic | 15:14 |
| bswartz | in a cloud everything should be automatic | 15:14 |
| zhongjun_ | ganso: I think maybe ben don't want a new CLI, right? | 15:14 |
| markstur | if manila already knows which shares "need attention" to be sent to a driver, then why wait for restart | 15:14 |
| ganso | zhongjun_: it is not preferable | 15:14 |
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| vponomaryov | markstur is right | 15:15 |
| markstur | I think a CLI makes sense for when it is good for an admin to decide when to take the action | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | get it know automatically is the problem | 15:15 |
| bswartz | markstur: the point is that determining which ones need attention might itself be an expensive operation | 15:15 |
| markstur | but I like the push to try to sort out other stuff first and leave the CLI as a separate tool | 15:15 |
| bswartz | so we only do that work on startup | 15:15 |
| bswartz | or more likely, it's something that's not too expensive, but very unlikely to change except at times when there are restarts | 15:16 |
| bswartz | again I'm thinking in particular about software upgrades | 15:16 |
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| markstur | bswartz: makes sense. I was thinking from a driver startup perspective and needed to think more of a manila restart process too | 15:16 |
| bswartz | you can't upgrade your manila software without restarting m-shr | 15:16 |
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| tommylikehu_ | maybe we could introduce the CLI first, and mark it deprecated when we already have the tested automatically features | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | looks like we need both: sometimes, we need to set this "needs-attention" flag during a database migration, and we'd need to let the administrator set it | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | and in most cases, upgrading the software on your backend will involve downtime and/or a restart of m-shr so the driver can recognize the software upgrade | 15:17 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: If we tag share, the admin still seems so busy? | 15:17 |
| markstur | I've seen where just a driver change (and the version in stats) can easily do some clever things on a driver upgrade with the current ensure | 15:18 |
| markstur | The same thing on a core manila restart also has the possibility of dealing with upgrade stuff | 15:18 |
| ganso | gouthamr: we need to be careful to not run in a case where the problem that needs attention needs admin intervention (like direct update to DB entry) to be fixed, on such cases tagging the share may not be useful at all | 15:18 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: true... | 15:19 |
| bswartz | let me spell out the kind of use case I worry about | 15:19 |
| bswartz | suppose a vendor improves the software on their storage controller to address a limitation with manila -- they add some feature which was missing | 15:20 |
| bswartz | next they update their manila driver to take advantage of the new feature | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | however the driver changes require storing some additional metadata in manila, or changing existing fields in some way to remain compatible | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | now when an actual user who has the old version of manila and that driver and that vendor's storage controller wants to upgrade, something needs to happen | 15:22 |
| bswartz | they need to decide whether to upgrade manila first or the storage controller first, and once they do, they need to perform those upgrades, and plan one of more restarts of the manila services | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | at some point something in the driver needs to flip the switch to start allowing the new feature which is now enabled by the new software | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | ensure_share seems like the ideal way to update any per-share information that needs updating in this case | 15:23 |
| bswartz | the catch is, we don't want to be ensuring all the shares every time we restart, because most of the time the software isn't being upgraded | 15:24 |
| bswartz | so how do we know when to do it? | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: store driver version with share DB model? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | manila needs some way to ask the driver, and the driver needs some way to persist enough state to tell the difference between a no-upgrade restart and an upgrade-restart | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: and when version changed we run this method? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: yes that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about | 15:25 |
| bswartz | however a plain "driver version" might not be flexible enough because versioning itself is a complex topic | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: then we define versioning rules first | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I was thinking something as simple as a unique hash which doesn't change unless the software is modified | 15:26 |
| zhongjun_ | We could store driver infos(inculde version) in method 1, It is up to driver | 15:26 |
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| ganso | bswartz, vponomaryov: that looks similar to what zhongjun_ proposes in her spec | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: where we change major part only when we need to run this ensure share method | 15:26 |
| zhongjun_ | driver could tell manila whether the driver need to update, It is also up to drvier | 15:27 |
| bswartz | ganso: as long as it's automatic and there's no API/CLI invoking required | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | zhongjun_: it is already possible | 15:28 |
| bswartz | so that would address the question of: should we ensure all or none of the shares | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | zhongjun_: driver can either skip "ensure_share" execution or not | 15:28 |
| bswartz | the other question is, is there a case to ensure some subset of the shares? (like cinder does with volumes) | 15:28 |
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| ganso | bswartz: we are most likely to run ensure_share for all shares of a certain backend stanza, even if only a few are needed, that would be okay I guess | 15:30 |
| zhongjun_ | vponomaryov: yes | 15:30 |
| bswartz | ganso: I can't think of a case for a subset, but we have to consider the scalability implications then | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | if it's all-or-nothing for ensure share, then the cases where we do all of them might cause *very* slow startups on backends with large numbers of shares | 15:32 |
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| ganso | bswartz: a subset could be only the shares belonging to an array that was upgraded... a subset within that subset would be only the ones affected by the upgrade, but it seems too complex to try to detect this smaller subset effectively, it may be too intensive to do so | 15:33 |
| ganso | bswartz: s/intensive/expensive | 15:34 |
| markstur | now you guys are making it sound like these upgrades should be controlled by and admin CLI to do them in reasonable chunks | 15:34 |
| bswartz | yeah | 15:34 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: We could do it in another patch, if we really need to do it. | 15:34 |
| bswartz | markstur: admins already do control upgrades | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I'd rather avoid making upgrades any harder than they already are | 15:35 |
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| markstur | I mean if this feature-enhancing on-startup will tweek 1000 shares and take a day, then maybe the admin would prefer it doesn't | 15:35 |
| markstur | and control the share upgrade in smaller chunks | 15:36 |
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| markstur | just sayin' the concerns mentioned above made me think this ^ | 15:36 |
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| vponomaryov | markstur: updating whole backend I would expect some time soncumption | 15:37 |
| markstur | but hopefully most upgrades are a fast loop thru a list with little tweak of some setting | 15:38 |
| bswartz | unfortunately some "upgrades" are mandatory and whether you do them in small chunks or all at once, you can't bring up your services until they're all done | 15:38 |
| markstur | vponomaryov: so... | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: so, small chunk does not really solve anything | 15:38 |
| bswartz | if there's an "upgrade" which isn't really mandatory, then yes it could be handled as a background task *after* the driver fully comes online | 15:39 |
| markstur | So if manila is upgraded and there are a bunch of backends and some come up right away but one is off-line for a significant period chunking thru upgrade... | 15:39 |
| markstur | that'd be kind of bad, but OK. I suppose it'd be hard for us to know and warn an admin how long it'd actually take anyway | 15:39 |
| markstur | maybe we need a real scenario before we worry too much about background upgrades and chunking and CLI | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | yeah that's what I was hoping we would arrive at with this spec | 15:40 |
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| markstur | I really like the vision and creativity of this group, but speculative features w/o customer need can be a real problem | 15:41 |
| vponomaryov | who has experience from production deployment and manila restart? | 15:42 |
| bswartz | fwiw, the cinder team faced some of the same issues and there was discussion about their ensure_volume and similar problems back in Ft Collins (summer 2016) | 15:42 |
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| zhongjun_ | markstur: our real customer just want to update the shares without restart | 15:43 |
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| vkmc | that would be rolling upgrades | 15:44 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: in that case maybe ensure_share is the wrong vehicle and we need a polling-based approach or a new API (or even the UNIX SIGHUP approach) | 15:45 |
| markstur | yeah but just rolling shares not like rolliing all of manila or OS | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | rolling upgrades solves a different problem IMO | 15:45 |
| bswartz | rolling upgrades is about minimizing cloud downtime while upgrading openstack | 15:46 |
| vkmc | well... taking that concept to manila only | 15:46 |
| bswartz | what zhongjun_ refers to is upgrading individual shares without manila downtime | 15:46 |
| vkmc | we would like to perform an upgrade without restarting services | 15:46 |
| zhongjun_ | rolling upgrades, and update the shares that is up to driver. | 15:46 |
| ganso | also, we wouldn't be interested in keeping the old behavior in this case, it is the case where the share wouldn't work without the upgrade fix | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | vkmc: !!! | 15:47 |
| bswartz | how do you upgrade without a restart? | 15:48 |
| bswartz | that's a neat trick I'd like to learn | 15:48 |
| ganso | bswartz: I don't see a problem with that... if we can reload the config and update the db, an array update becomes very simple from manila point of view | 15:48 |
| ganso | bswartz: s/update/upgrade | 15:49 |
| bswartz | oh you mean upgrade the backend | 15:49 |
| ganso | bswartz: yea, that's one use case | 15:49 |
| bswartz | yes in theory m-shr can stay up while the backend gets upgraded | 15:49 |
| vkmc | bswartz, I'm not saying it's possible to do it for realz... you can simulate it though | 15:49 |
| vkmc | in the sense that customers won't see the downtime | 15:49 |
| ganso | bswartz: if driver version is changed, then it has to be restarted to reload python binaries | 15:49 |
| bswartz | although you might get some errors on inflight operations | 15:49 |
| vkmc | and yeah, it requires some juggling | 15:49 |
| bswartz | ganso: that's what I was thinking | 15:49 |
| bswartz | although if the Linux kernel can support so-called "live patching" then maybe someday python will too | 15:50 |
| ganso | bswartz: that's why we shouldn't worry that much about avoiding restarts, we can't solve every use case avoiding restarts | 15:50 |
| bswartz | ganso: +10 | 15:50 |
| vkmc | still, my understanding was that ensure shares wanted to address a different problem | 15:50 |
| zhongjun_ | markstur: yeah, we could rolling part of manila shares, but tag shares maybe it will make admin a little busy | 15:50 |
| bswartz | that's why I'm more focused on making ensure_share do the right thing when the driver restarts, and no on avoiding restarts | 15:51 |
| markstur | yeah. manual stuff doesn't scale well | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | okay anything else on the topic of ensure_share? | 15:51 |
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| ganso | bswartz: the thing is, we can't have restart as a trigger | 15:51 |
| ganso | bswartz: as it is today | 15:52 |
| bswartz | ganso: why not? | 15:52 |
| bswartz | it seems fine to me | 15:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: as part of the use cases aren't solved by driver restarts | 15:52 |
| markstur | ganso: I don't suppose you want to right a m-upg to do background upgrades | 15:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: like, upgraded the array, driver version remains the same, restart is not needed | 15:52 |
| markstur | s/right/write/ | 15:52 |
| ganso | markstur: lol no | 15:52 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: lol | 15:52 |
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| ganso | bswartz: we could decouple them | 15:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: just need a new trigger | 15:53 |
| vkmc | ganso++ | 15:53 |
| * markstur thinks ganso could be convinced if it was a good idea | 15:53 | |
| bswartz | ganso: I never said ensure_share solves all the use cases -- just that it solves some and it has the benefit of being mostly idiot-proof | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | other solutions like new APIs require the admin to do something and I guarantee some fraction of admins will forget or not do it | 15:54 |
| ganso | markstur: lol I am not very fond of creating new services :P | 15:54 |
| bswartz | anyways since we're low on time | 15:54 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | anything else to discuss today? | 15:54 |
| bswartz | alright | 15:55 |
| bswartz | thanks all and please keep reviewing specs | 15:55 |
| zhongjun_ | thanks | 15:56 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| vkmc | thx o/ | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 15:56:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-03-30-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-03-30-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-03-30-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting Security | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 16:01:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| hyakuhei | o/ | 16:01 |
| lhinds | o/ | 16:02 |
| lhinds | hey | 16:02 |
| hyakuhei | Hey buddy | 16:02 |
| lhinds | hi mate | 16:02 |
| hyakuhei | Just you and me! | 16:02 |
| lhinds | ha! | 16:02 |
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| lhinds | do you have many topics hyakuhei ? | 16:03 |
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| hyakuhei | Just the standing ones, docs, ossn and syntribos | 16:03 |
| hyakuhei | However it's a bit echo-y in here | 16:03 |
| lhinds | I don't have much for ossn, you should have an email from me, rgding visibility of private issues. | 16:04 |
| lhinds | fungi made some recommendations | 16:05 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool, I saw an email on that I think. | 16:05 |
| hyakuhei | Ah man. We are an hour early | 16:05 |
| hyakuhei | Timenow UTC is 160 | 16:05 |
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| hyakuhei | *1600 | 16:05 |
| hyakuhei | Fail. | 16:05 |
| lhinds | ohhh ! | 16:05 |
| fungi | heh | 16:05 |
| hyakuhei | Every time.... | 16:06 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting. | 16:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 16:06:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-30-16.01.html | 16:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-30-16.01.txt | 16:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-30-16.01.log.html | 16:06 |
| fungi | real security team meeting starts in 53 minutes ;) | 16:06 |
| lhinds | that was just a warm up | 16:06 |
| unrahul | :D | 16:06 |
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| lhinds | hyakuhei: I need to leave my pc for a while as something has come up. could you cover my part on OSSN. "Nothing new, just some LP permissions to iron out". | 16:33 |
| hyakuhei | Sure thing | 16:34 |
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| unrahul | o/ | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting | 17:04 |
| openstack | hyakuhei: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting security | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 17:04:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | One of those days again | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:04 |
| knangia | o/ | 17:04 |
| vinaypotluri | o/ | 17:04 |
| unrahul | o/ | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Sorry for the delay! | 17:05 |
| knangia | no worries hyakuhei | 17:05 |
| unrahul | hyakuhei: are we waiting for some one? | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Syntribos | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | More arguing with someone | 17:09 |
| unrahul | haa.. | 17:09 |
| unrahul | :) | 17:09 |
| knangia | :D | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | #chair unrahul knangia vinaypotluri | 17:09 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei knangia unrahul vinaypotluri | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | Sorry guys, I'm completely split-brain today. | 17:09 |
| knangia | no problem... | 17:10 |
| unrahul | so we are testing cinder, as usual 500 errors, I have been looking into the cinder encryption as we discussed | 17:10 |
| unrahul | Also, we are introducing a new functionality to syntribos , a true random fuzzer | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | oh cool | 17:10 |
| unrahul | one design session got over, we would be pushing patches for it soon | 17:10 |
| unrahul | thats its for syntribos.. | 17:11 |
| unrahul | yeah.. this was michaelxin idea | 17:11 |
| unrahul | to add a random fuzzer | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, sounds interesting, potential for a blog post on the last bit? | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSN (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:11 | |
| unrahul | yup once its up and running | 17:11 |
| unrahul | we should do it. | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Nothing to report :) | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Docs | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | What's the story here? | 17:11 |
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| unrahul | docs | 17:11 |
| unrahul | we have assigned ourselves a few | 17:12 |
| knangia | we assigned more bugs to us, still working on them | 17:12 |
| unrahul | especially one asettle was working on | 17:12 |
| unrahul | on case studies | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | You guys are all super stars! | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | sicarie ^ | 17:12 |
| knangia | :D hyakuhei | 17:12 |
| unrahul | will be reviewing that and would require your help for final review on that | 17:12 |
| vinaypotluri | And we are working on a few from the wishlist too | 17:13 |
| sicarie | yeah, these updates are awesome | 17:13 |
| unrahul | nice vinaypotluri :) | 17:13 |
| knangia | will be pushing patches soon for them too | 17:13 |
| sicarie | sorry, attempting to extricate myself from other stuff as well | 17:13 |
| sicarie | there is also a spec up for case study updates | 17:13 |
| unrahul | sicarie: | 17:14 |
| unrahul | ohh | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | oh, lnky? | 17:14 |
| unrahul | yup can u pls share it.. | 17:14 |
| sicarie | oh, sorry, it's for the compliance chapter | 17:14 |
| sicarie | first one is the case study: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451794/ | 17:14 |
| sicarie | apologies, i just saw it this morning | 17:14 |
| sicarie | There is also a glance checklist that I got 2/3 of the way through validating, but wasnt' able to complete before I had to step back, so ti's in merge conflict | 17:15 |
| sicarie | updating this would be awesome as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431571/ | 17:15 |
| unrahul | we shall take a look sicarie | 17:15 |
| sicarie | thanks! | 17:15 |
| unrahul | I think that is mostly good to go.. just the merge conflct | 17:16 |
| sicarie | +1 | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks sicarie | 17:18 |
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| unrahul | I think we can move on to AOB | 17:19 |
| unrahul | #topic AOB | 17:19 |
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| unrahul | hyakuhei: any news on possible midcycle ? | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | good question | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | easy answer | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | nope | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | heh | 17:19 |
| unrahul | :) | 17:19 |
| unrahul | hehe.. | 17:19 |
| knangia | boston summit ? | 17:20 |
| knangia | anyone attending | 17:20 |
| unrahul | knangia: would be attending the Boston summit from osic | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | I'll be there | 17:20 |
| unrahul | it would have been good to have a midcycle as we had before | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | I'll make sure we get some funds to take you guys out as a thankyou for all this work you've been doing. | 17:20 |
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| unrahul | all for the team hyakuhei :) it would be fun | 17:21 |
| knangia | will meet you at the summit hyakuhei :) | 17:21 |
| knangia | +1 unrahul | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | :D | 17:21 |
| unrahul | hehe | 17:22 |
| unrahul | so I think its done hyakuhei .. | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, I don't have any other business :) | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | TY All | 17:22 |
| unrahul | nop | 17:22 |
| knangia | thank you | 17:22 |
| unrahul | see u guys | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 17:22:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-30-17.04.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-30-17.04.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-30-17.04.log.html | 17:22 |
| vinaypotluri | thank you all | 17:22 |
| vinaypotluri | :) | 17:23 |
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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 18:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
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| tosky | o/ | 18:00 |
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| raissa | o/ | 18:00 |
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| shuyingya | o/ | 18:00 |
| esikachev | hi | 18:01 |
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| vgridnev | hello | 18:01 |
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| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 18:02 |
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| mariannelm | o/ | 18:02 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm working on cdh image generation, now I'm testing it. | 18:02 |
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| tellesnobrega | probably going to start working on updating spark and storm version | 18:03 |
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| esikachev | i am working on improvements for sahara-ci stability | 18:03 |
| tosky | so, after last week's outages, both sahara-image-elements (broken due to changes in dib-lint from dib) and sahara (broken due to the new eventlet) gates are now fixed | 18:03 |
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| vgridnev | Working on jobs in upstream Jenkins | 18:04 |
| tosky | also testing internally (on RHEL) and finding issues from time to time | 18:04 |
| shuyingya | nothing new from my side. | 18:04 |
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| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, is your colleague working on cdh version upgrade to 5.10? | 18:05 |
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| raissa | busy testing sahara internally | 18:06 |
| shuyingya | not yet. The intern has to go back to school to finish his paper. | 18:06 |
| tellesnobrega | ok | 18:07 |
| mariannelm | I'm working with APIv2 (with shuyingya), and planning to work on adding some documentation for the data source / job binary abstraction interface | 18:07 |
| mariannelm | * working on APIv2 | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | I still haven't sent the email about microversions, but I'll try to send it tomorrow first thing | 18:08 |
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| tellesnobrega | anyone else has news? | 18:09 |
| shuyingya | tellesnobrega, I have dealt with the internal affairs of company yesterday. So I can work on CDH refactoring and upgrading | 18:09 |
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| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, great to hear, if anyone is interested in working on storm or spark let me know | 18:10 |
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| shuyingya | as you know, mariannelm has lots of interest on APIv2, so I can take some time to work on plugin upgrading first | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | yes, that sounds great | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | about boston summit, apparently there will be only me and jeremy there and hopefully Elise, I requested onboarding room for sahara so we can try introduce new people to our project and get them working | 18:12 |
| mariannelm | yes sure, tellesnobrega feel free to email me the details about it | 18:12 |
| tellesnobrega | I forgot, mariannelm will be there as well | 18:13 |
| tellesnobrega | she will probably help us out there | 18:14 |
| tellesnobrega | I will also present a projects update talk there, I may ask for your input on a topic or other, so please help me out :) | 18:15 |
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| tellesnobrega | anyone else has news? | 18:16 |
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| tellesnobrega | #topic Open Discussion | 18:18 |
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| esikachev | I need some help with debugging Sahara-ci from developers side because now I am working on another project and have a little time for working on Sahara-ci | 18:18 |
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| vgridnev | What kind of help you need? | 18:19 |
| tellesnobrega | esikachev, I see, I haven't done any work on sahara-ci itself but I can try to help out with that | 18:19 |
| esikachev | take a look on sahara-ci results https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445954/ | 18:19 |
| esikachev | only small plugins can working correct | 18:20 |
| esikachev | also, core-team take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443554/ :) | 18:20 |
| tosky | could it be due to resource constraints? | 18:21 |
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| esikachev | i think, no | 18:21 |
| esikachev | because we have a lot of resources | 18:21 |
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| vgridnev | I see a lot of failures related to eep jobs, can that be caused by datasources pluggability changes? | 18:23 |
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| esikachev | let's try to create revert-patch | 18:24 |
| mariannelm | don't know vridnev, do you have the logs? | 18:24 |
| tosky | esikachev: or trigger against ocata and/or newton | 18:24 |
| esikachev | ok | 18:24 |
| esikachev | ) | 18:24 |
| vgridnev | Let's revert that | 18:25 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, you mean revert the data pluggability changes and see if it passes? | 18:25 |
| vgridnev | Yes | 18:26 |
| vgridnev | If that is the general reason of failures, that has to be repaired | 18:26 |
| tellesnobrega | makes sense, but do we know that is the source of the problem? did it pass the tests when it was submitted? | 18:27 |
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| mariannelm | hey everyone, I got to go now, but if possible please discuss the status of job binary internal's deprecation, I'll see the logs, thanks \o/ | 18:29 |
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| vgridnev | I don't know for sure, but that might be possible | 18:30 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I'm ok with reverting the changes and see if it fixes the issue | 18:31 |
| tosky | just sending the revert patch should say something | 18:31 |
| tosky | I shamelessy request some eyes (and votes) for two RHEL-related fixes for sahara-image-elements: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448741/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448644/ | 18:32 |
| tellesnobrega | there were three patches, should we revert all of them? | 18:32 |
| tosky | (tested internally, planning to backport to Ocata too) | 18:32 |
| vgridnev | yes, let's revert all of them | 18:32 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, ok | 18:33 |
| tellesnobrega | I will take care of that | 18:33 |
| tellesnobrega | and we can see if it helps the CI, if it does, we have to discuss how to bring those in again without breaking it | 18:34 |
| tosky | you can chain the 3 revert patches | 18:34 |
| tosky | the results from the last one should be enough | 18:34 |
| tosky | I mean, we don't need to merge the revert to see if it fixes things, right? | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | probably not | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | here are the patches | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427447/ | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427359/ | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427480/ | 18:36 |
| tosky | one is the spec | 18:36 |
| tosky | not required for the test | 18:36 |
| tosky | the other two can be chained | 18:36 |
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| tellesnobrega | tosky, none of these is a spec file | 18:38 |
| tosky | uh, where did I click? | 18:38 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, not really sure | 18:38 |
| tosky | ok, ok | 18:39 |
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| tellesnobrega | I will take a look on how to chain those 3 figure out the order that it should happen and see how it goes | 18:39 |
| shuyingya | Hi all, what do you think about adding HBase support in vanilla? | 18:40 |
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| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, do you have use case? | 18:41 |
| shuyingya | not yet. Just m product manager asks me why not support HBase in vanilla like CDH | 18:42 |
| tellesnobrega | I don't see why not. You could write a spec file and we would discuss that there | 18:43 |
| shuyingya | Uhm, sound great. thx | 18:43 |
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| shuyingya | tellesnobrega what's you plan about microversion? | 18:45 |
| tellesnobrega | about microversions, this is something that was proposed in the original spec on APIv2. I started working on it, but would like to know you input on it, if this is something we still want | 18:45 |
| tellesnobrega | I mean, the goal to avoid having to bump versions on small api changes, and give support to different set of behaviors depending on which api version is being requested | 18:47 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, do you have thoughts on that? I know tosky has some concerns | 18:49 |
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| shuyingya | uhm, I am not sure yet. waiting for you email. | 18:50 |
| vgridnev | Do whatever you want, we actually don't have a lot changes on api | 18:50 |
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| tellesnobrega | yes, we don't change much our api, we might not even need this, wanted to know your input, but I will write the email and we can have a more detailed discussion | 18:51 |
| tellesnobrega | how does that sound? | 18:51 |
| tosky | yep, let's start from the email | 18:53 |
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| shuyingya | great. make sense. | 18:53 |
| vgridnev | Basically, I don't have strict opinion on this, just because we don't do something that totally will break everything | 18:53 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I agree with you on this | 18:53 |
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| shuyingya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448113/ about this patch, do you have any idea about storing the job bianries? | 18:54 |
| tellesnobrega | The idea is to remove internal in favor of swift or other storage | 18:55 |
| shuyingya | I think use db to store blob is not good idea, do we need use swift or manila? | 18:55 |
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| tellesnobrega | if I remember correctly we want to not use internal db for that and use swift or manila or whatever comes next | 18:56 |
| tellesnobrega | for APIv2 we shouldn't have the internal job binary option anymore | 18:57 |
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| shuyingya | uhm, that's true. But the job binaries operation use the resource of job binary internal. | 18:58 |
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| tellesnobrega | hmm, I have to take a better look into it. We can discuss it later, since we are almost out of time. Is that ok? | 18:59 |
| shuyingya | ok. | 18:59 |
| shuyingya | I need to go to sleep | 18:59 |
| shuyingya | haha | 18:59 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, awesome | 18:59 |
| shuyingya | goodbye everyone | 18:59 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks guys, I will follow up an email on microversions and job binary internal | 19:00 |
| tellesnobrega | thank all | 19:00 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-03-30-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-03-30-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
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