Wednesday, 2017-04-05

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aspiersbeekhof_pto: I guess you're not around today then08:59
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aspiersanyone else around for HA discussions? except ddeja :)09:04
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prometheanfiretonyb: toabctl: dirk dims now?09:20
toabctlI have 20 min left. fine for me09:20
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prometheanfirewell, since I don't think tonyb is around09:25
prometheanfire!startmeeting requirements09:25
openstackprometheanfire: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.09:25
prometheanfireand I forgot how to use the bot09:25
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prometheanfire#startmeeting09:30
openstackprometheanfire: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'09:30
prometheanfire#startmeeting requirements09:30
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 09:30:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:30
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'09:30
prometheanfire!topic rollcall09:31
openstackprometheanfire: Error: "topic" is not a valid command.09:31
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prometheanfire#topic rollcall09:31
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prometheanfiretoabctl: tonyb dirk dims ?09:31
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dirko/09:32
toabctlhi09:32
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prometheanfirek09:34
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prometheanfire#topic controversies in the queue?09:34
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dirkeventlet I guess09:34
prometheanfireI know there's eventlet thing09:35
prometheanfireya09:35
dirkthe discussion on the mailing list was inconclusive to me09:35
prometheanfirehave a link? it's not showing up in gertty (unless it was abandoned)09:35
dirkso I'm surprised to see dims proposing to not do the eventlet revert and instead drop designate09:35
dirk#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448104/09:36
dirkand09:36
prometheanfireya, saw that on the list too09:36
dirk#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453279/09:36
dirkI think what we should do is revert eventlet, extend test coverage to cover designate09:36
dirkand then try to work together with them on getting that fixed09:36
dirkthe other thing that happened with e.g. networking-odl is that they merged a local overwrite to the global upper-constraints09:36
dirkso they are running their tests against a different upper-constraints file than "ours"09:37
prometheanfireI'd rather just fix designate, but not sure how hard that'd be09:37
dirkwhich is bad as well09:37
dirkit probably isn't that hard09:37
prometheanfirehas anyone talked to them about it?09:37
dirkI didn't09:37
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prometheanfirenor I09:38
dirkso we have a number of options09:38
dirka) just fix the thing09:38
dirkb) give them a local overwrite09:38
dirkc) globally revert and work with them on re-bumping it09:38
dirkd) dropping them from g-r sync09:38
prometheanfirewith eventlet?09:38
dirkI think a and c are good options, b and d less so09:39
prometheanfireagreed09:41
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prometheanfirea if we can, c if we work with them and it's a bigger / longer issue, d if they are dead (upstream wise), don't think I like b at all09:42
prometheanfirein that order that's what I'd like09:42
prometheanfireanyway, I'll keep an eye on it as I can, but am on vacation for a week.09:44
prometheanfireso...09:44
dirkthe action item is to discuss this with dims09:44
dirkhe seems to have a different opinion and we need to understand his reasoning09:45
prometheanfireya, when we can09:45
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prometheanfireanything else in the mean time?09:51
prometheanfirewant to wait til this would normally start to give people a chance to show09:52
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prometheanfirelooks like dims got back to us in the other channel :D10:00
dimsprometheanfire : haven't woken up fully yet. back in a bit10:01
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prometheanfiredims: how long is a bit? :P10:01
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dirkprometheanfire: meeting time is the other favorite topic10:02
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dirkI also have the topic of upgrading the nova-func test job to voting10:02
prometheanfirewell, let's do the nova-func first10:03
prometheanfireI've notice you mention it a couple of times :P10:04
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prometheanfire?10:06
dirkbasically, short summary: we discussed it in atlanta to extend the list of check jobs for upper constraints changes also by running the projects functional tests10:07
dirkthe guinea pig for that was nova and it seems to work, but it is currently non-voting10:07
dirkwhich in the end led to things being merged that broke it10:07
dirkso I would like to propagate it to voting10:08
dirkany objections?10:08
dirkI'd also think about adding further func test jobs then, as a 2nd step10:08
prometheanfireI'm good with making it voting10:08
prometheanfireif it's regularly passing and adds value to our testing and is not an external job, make it vote :D10:09
prometheanfireand the meeting time?10:10
prometheanfireI'm fine with an hour earlier10:10
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dirk+110:16
dirkit seems that would be incompatible with dims10:17
dirkand he's a frequent contributor recently10:17
dirkdims: your input appreciated now :)10:17
dims+1 to make it voting10:18
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prometheanfiredims: and the meeting time? is an hour ago too early?10:19
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prometheanfirealso, is upstream desigante really dead?10:22
prometheanfireor dead enough to be removed?10:23
prometheanfireif so, a post to the list about it should probably be made, before removal10:23
prometheanfiregoing to close this in a min if no response, we can discuss this stuff later, I'm dead tired10:26
dimsprometheanfire : it's 6:30 AM for me right now :)10:26
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dimsprometheanfire : yes it is10:26
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prometheanfireit's 5:30 for me10:27
dimsprometheanfire : did you see monty and me posting to ML about designate?10:27
prometheanfireand I've been up since yesterday :P10:27
dimsLOL10:27
dimsgo get some sleep :)10:27
dimsi need to wake up kids for school10:27
prometheanfireoh, guess they are tagged in that thread10:28
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dirkprometheanfire: ok, lets end the meeting10:29
dirkand have some sleep10:29
prometheanfire#endmeeting10:29
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devkulkarni#starmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
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Swamihi15:00
haleybhi15:00
haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 15:00:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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haleyb#chair Swami15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:01
haleyb#topic Announcements15:01
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Swamihaleyb: sorry I was not able to join last weeks meeting, since I need to take my son to the Dr's office.15:02
haleybSwami: np, i actually cancelled as i had a conflict15:02
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haleybhopefully he is feeling better15:02
Swamiok,15:02
Swamihaleyb: yes lot of spring allergies15:02
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haleybthat's better than the colds going around here :-(15:03
haleybanyways....15:03
haleybPike-1 is next week, https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html15:03
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Swamihaleyb: hope you are out of the blizzard from last week.15:04
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haleybblizzard was only a few inches here, other places got a lot more, snow is finally starting to melt15:05
Swamihaleyb: I did see that you have approved the server side patch for the fast path exit. May be both the server side and agent side we can target for Pike milestone115:05
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haleybother announcement is Summit is in one month, so we need to start working on that presentation :)15:06
haleybSwami: yes, i just went through that again this morning, will get to the other one after the meeting15:06
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haleybwe need to find another reviewer familiar with the plan, i would ping oleg, just don't see him online15:07
haleybs/plan/RFEs15:07
haleyband code15:07
Swamihaleyb: ok makes sense15:08
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Swamihaleyb: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434863/15:08
haleybof course we should ping mlavalle as well, don't see him either, but we should keep him in-sync regarding work items15:08
Swamiquick question on this patch, I have not payed attention to this. But it seems that it kind of reverts my original fix where it cleansup the stale namespace when the agent restarts.15:09
Swamihaleyb: I will take a closer look at it today.15:09
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haleybSwami: is there not an issue when HA+DVR?  let me drop the +2 until you look15:10
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Swamihaleyb: no problem.15:10
haleybdone15:10
Swamihaleyb: I just looked, the fix is simple and only addresses the 'ha' + 'dvr' case. So we are fine.15:11
Swamihaleyb: we both are too quick15:11
haleybSwami: ok, thanks, i was too quick to remove the +2, didn't want someone to see my approval and merge quickly15:11
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haleybi'll wait for the recheck anyways, it's been 7 weeks since it was last run15:12
haleyblet's move to bugs if there are no other announcements15:12
haleyb#topic Bugs15:12
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Swamihaleyb: I will +1 once the jenkins completes.15:12
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Swamihaleyb: I did not see any new bugs this week.15:12
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Swamihaleyb: Still we have one bug that might need a triage.15:13
haleybI didn't see new ones either15:13
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165798115:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1657981 in neutron "FloatingIPs not reachable after restart of compute node (DVR)" [Undecided,New]15:13
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SwamiThis one needs triage, this keeps falling off my radar. But I will test it today. I am stacking right now.15:14
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haleybok. can you test that in devstack? looks like it needs a reboot and devstack doesn't like that15:15
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Swamihaleyb: Let me check, I am not sure if devstack will panic when the agent goes down.15:15
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Swamihaleyb: so what is best way to test it without devstack.15:16
haleybHOS :)15:16
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Swamihaleyb: sure,15:17
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SwamiThe next one is the lbaas issue15:17
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167234515:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1672345 in neutron "Loadbalancer V2 ports are not serviced by DVR" [Undecided,New]15:17
SwamiThis we have already discussed and it should be related to the allowed_address_pair port.15:18
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SwamiI do have patch for review for the allowed_address_pair ports.15:18
Swami#link15:19
Swami    https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164423115:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1644231 in neutron "fip router config is not created if the vm ports attached to FIPs have no device_owner" [Low,Incomplete]15:19
SwamiThis bug has a patch and probably needs another +2.15:19
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425919/15:19
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haleybi had abandoned that change15:20
Swamihaleyb: ok, is there any other way that we should document it.15:21
haleybSwami: based on armando's last comment i'm not sure15:22
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Swamihaleyb: ok then let us put on hold for now, if it is not a higher priority15:23
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161280415:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612804 in neutron "test_shelve_instance fails with sshtimeout" [High,Incomplete]15:24
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SwamiThis bug has been marked incomplete, didn't we have it in a monitor state for a while.15:24
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SwamiCan we close this bug15:24
haleybYes, i will close it and move off our list15:25
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:25
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163254015:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632540 in neutron "l3-agent print the ERROR log in l3 log file continuously ,finally fill file space,leading to crash the l3-agent service" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Quan Tian (tianquan23)15:27
haleybthat was linked to that HA patch from earlier, but that would just be a partial fix15:28
SwamiI don't see any new patch for this bug. Yes this is linked to the patch that we just discussed. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434863/15:28
Swamihaleyb: probably it is a partial fix since it says that logs will be reduced.15:28
haleybright. the other changes proposed just removed the error, which isn't right15:29
Swamiok.15:30
SwamiThat's all we have for bugs today.15:30
SwamiThe remaining things are the RFE15:30
SwamiI think we discussed about the 'fast-path-exit' RFE and you have already reviewed it.15:30
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/15:31
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355062/15:31
haleybyes, will get to second one later15:31
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haleyb#topic Gate15:32
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Swamihaleyb: I got some initial review comments from Oleg on the allowed_address_pair ports15:32
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437970/15:32
Swamihaleyb: may be you can also review it again to see if there is any issues.15:33
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/15:33
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haleybwill do15:33
Swamihaleyb: oleg's patch that he proposed for the agent side was aborted and I also tested it and was not feasible.15:33
Swamihaleyb: ok thanks.15:34
Swamihaleyb: back to the gate issues15:34
haleybok15:34
haleybIn yesterday's CI meeting it was noted a new job was added to the neutron job as non-voting15:35
haleybhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate15:35
haleybin the dvr check queue section15:35
haleybyesterday it was around 35% failure15:35
haleyblet me grab the job15:36
Swamihaleyb: was it a dvr or ha related job15:38
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haleybi'm looking through the meeting logs15:38
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/452294/ was the change15:38
haleybok, it just moved to the grafana panel, think it's always been there15:39
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haleybgate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv15:39
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haleybit seems happier today, so could have been something else15:40
Swamiok15:41
Swamiwhat does that 'nv' stands for.15:41
haleybeither way, looking forward, now that the DVR+HA change merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383827/15:41
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haleybnv == non-voting15:41
haleybwe need to create a job for DVR+HA basically, i think we'll cover in L3 meeting tomorrow, but just wanted to raise it here too15:42
Swamiok, cool15:42
haleybthat way it will be the multinode job, and the dvr-multinode could eventually go away once it's stable15:43
haleybno need to have a 2-node and 3-node job15:43
Swamihaleyb: makes sense15:43
Swamihaleyb: We can have one instance of 3 node job that is sufficient15:43
haleybof course it will require a patch :)  yes, will just have the dvr+ha 3-node job15:44
haleybso that work is on miguel and mine's plates15:45
Swamihaleyb: great15:46
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haleybi still would like to know why the current check jobs for dvr-multinode are so "bad", i.e. the scenario job is at ~99%15:47
Swamihaleyb: Yes we need to find out the root cause.15:47
haleybi know it's non-voting, but if the job is completely broken and needs a tweak we should help it along15:47
haleybi'll see if it's something simple from a recent run, have no idea15:48
haleybbut at this point it's just taking time and resources15:49
Swamihaleyb: ok let me if I can take a look at it, if I have some time.15:49
haleybSwami: thanks, i'd assume any recent patchset would have it failing15:50
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haleyb#topic Backports15:51
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SwamiI don't have any backports at this time waiting for review.15:52
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/453663/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453664/ were just created for the stale floating IP configured on rfp device, the master change just merged15:52
haleybthat had been lurking for a long time15:52
haleybthink that's all that is new there15:53
SwamiYes, will push a backport patch for this.15:53
haleybi went back to newton, was probably broken in mitaka as well15:53
SwamiSorry it is already in stable/newton.15:53
Swamiwill review it.15:53
haleybbut mitaka is really critical only, and if you reboot it will fix itself :)15:54
haleyb#topic Open Discussion15:54
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haleybwe have a few minutes left, anything else to discuss?15:55
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SwamiI don't have anything else. Just to let you know, I have not started the slide deck yet for our presentation. Will start some time this week.15:56
haleybOk, thanks, let me know and we can work on it together15:56
SwamiYes, will let you know once I have the skeleton and we can work on15:57
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haleybok, i'll give you two minutes back15:58
Swamiok, thanks15:58
haleyb#endmeeting15:58
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haleybbye15:58
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Swamibye15:59
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SukhdevHey Folks time for ML2 meeting16:00
dasanindHi16:01
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Sukhdevdasanind : hi16:01
trevormco/16:02
Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_ml216:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 16:02:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2'16:02
Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:02
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_April_5.2C_201716:03
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:03
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SukhdevI mistyped the meeting name last time and hence, the logs went to wrong place - sorry about that -16:03
SukhdevHere is the link to the logs, if you need to go back and refer to them - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__networking_ml2/16:04
dasanindSukhdev: ack16:04
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Sukhdevrkukura will be here in and out - so, may not participate activly16:05
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SukhdevAnybody has any announcements before we jump into the agenda?16:06
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dasanindI don't have anything16:07
Sukhdev#topic: QinQ Driver16:07
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trevormcI removed the WIP tag!16:07
Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44604716:07
Sukhdevtrevormc : I looked at the patch - looks really good16:07
trevormcbut I think i will have to add tempest tests16:07
trevormcthanks Sukhdev, I updated Qinq to QinQ16:08
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trevormcI'm not working on the next item on the agenda :)16:09
trevormcim now*16:09
Sukhdevtrevormc : what about the mech driver? are you going to work on it next?16:09
trevormcSukhdev, oh is that a requirement for the QinQ driver?16:09
Sukhdevtrevormc : no16:10
Sukhdevjust curious16:10
trevormcI'm working on create a vf_policy object to store the advanced configuration for SR-IOV16:10
trevormcI'm trying to make an api extension like port_secuirty16:11
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Sukhdevtrevormc : Sounds good16:12
trevormcat least I think thats the right approach, I'm also looking at how QoS policy id was attached to the port model.16:12
Sukhdevtrevormc: just beef up the tests, and, this one looks pretty much ready to go16:12
trevormcSukhdev, ok I will add more unit tests. Do we need tempest tests?16:12
Sukhdevtrevormc: I do not believe that is the requirement16:13
trevormcok great :)16:13
Sukhdevyou already have the tests16:13
Sukhdevtrevormc : IMO this is looking good - have rkukura take a look as well, if he has not done yet16:14
trevormcoh? I guess there is a framework that tests every available driver type.16:14
trevormcok sounds good16:14
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Sukhdevtrevormc : you can push a separate patch for tempest tests, but, this code looks good to me16:15
trevormcok16:15
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Sukhdevanything else on this ?16:16
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trevormcno thats all.16:16
Sukhdevcool16:16
Sukhdev#topic:  Port binding extension support16:17
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Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44604716:17
Sukhdevdasanind : I looked at the patch - this looked good to me16:17
dasanindSukhdev: thank you for the review16:17
dasanindIn couple of hours I will update the patch with API test cases16:18
Sukhdeveven though it is a WIP, I gave it a +1 to indicate that this is in good shape16:18
dasanindThank you16:18
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dasanindAfter I finish with the test cases I will proceed with the changes in the ml2 code16:19
Sukhdevdasanind : sounds good -16:19
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dasanindDo you think I should put the changes in the same patch or separate patch?16:19
Sukhdevdasanind : separate, please16:20
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dasanindcool will do that16:20
Sukhdevdasanind : multiple patches with smaller fixes is much easier to review and get approvals16:20
dasanindand make it dependednt on this patch16:20
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Sukhdevdasanind : yes16:21
dasanindSukhdev: One other question is do we need tempest tests for these apis16:21
Sukhdevdasanind : yes16:22
dasanindCurrently, I am writing unit tests for this extension16:22
dasanindSukhdev: ack16:22
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Sukhdevdasanind : be sure to make sure all these patches refer to the RFE as well16:23
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dasanindSukhdev: sure16:24
Sukhdevanything else?16:24
dasanindI am good for now16:25
Sukhdevcool16:25
Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:25
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SukhdevAnything general to discuss?16:25
trevormcno16:26
SukhdevAre you guys going to Boston summit?16:26
trevormcyes16:26
dasanindnothing from my side16:26
dasanindI am not going16:26
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Sukhdevdasanind : oh no :-)16:26
dasanind:(16:27
Sukhdevtrevormc : I will see you in Boston16:27
SukhdevI guess we are done  -16:27
trevormclooking forward to it16:27
dasanindThank you16:27
SukhdevThanks for attending16:27
trevormcthanks o/16:27
Sukhdevbye16:27
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:27
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 17:03:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:03
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timsim#topic roll call17:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'designate'17:03
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diana_clarkeo/17:03
trungnvo/17:03
hieulq_o/17:03
sonuko/17:03
timsimping mugsie kiall (if you're around)17:03
mugsieo/17:04
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mugsiesorry - got distracted17:04
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timsimNo worries, are  you around in full mugsie?17:04
mugsieyup17:04
timsimAlright17:05
timsim#topic Bug Triage17:05
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timsim#chairs mugsie17:06
mugsie:)17:06
timsimJust in case I have to drop off17:06
mugsiek17:06
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/167456517:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1674565 in Designate "openstack recordset create does not throw any error when Zero TTL Values are specified" [Undecided,New]17:06
mugsieI think this is a client bug17:06
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timsimyeah that's what I was going to say17:07
mugsiesomewhere 0 is being cats to Nll17:07
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mugsienull*17:07
timsimyeah. meh17:07
timsimI'll move it17:07
mugsieits an issue - lhf, in the client bugs, medium?17:07
mugsiebut not a huge issue17:07
timsimyeah17:07
timsimagreed17:07
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/167571917:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1675719 in Designate "type not throwing any error message when repeated twice while creating record " [Undecided,New]17:07
mugsieeh17:08
mugsiemultiple --records create multiple records afaik17:08
mugsieor not17:08
mugsiewoiw17:08
mugsieyeah, client issue anyway - but I am not sure how we would even fix that17:09
mugsieI think it is the cliff parsing code17:09
timsimProbably an issue, but not one likely to fix17:09
timsimJust don't specify a flag twice :P17:09
timsimMove it, low?17:10
mugsieyeah, its a pain, but if someone has a fix - ++17:10
mugsieyeah17:10
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/167682717:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1676827 in Designate "enable worker is deprecated but not start without enabling" [Undecided,New]17:10
timsimThis is just "deprecated" being confusing17:10
mugsieyeah - lhf, and suggest updating the string?17:11
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timsimSeems legit, hopefully we'll just get that done this cycle and it'll be gone17:11
mugsie++17:12
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/167622817:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1676228 in Designate "Install and configure for Red Hat Enterprise Linux and CentOS in Installation Guide for DNS Service" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to plieb (jliberma)17:12
mugsielegit17:12
mugsieC, and backport17:13
timsimyeap17:13
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timsim#topic stable backport triage17:14
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timsimI don't have the link, but I don't think there's going to be anything here.17:14
timsimMove on?17:14
mugsienope - broken gates will dop that17:15
mugsieyeah17:15
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:16
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mugsieGate?17:16
mugsieI see diana_clarke is here17:16
trungnvhello?17:16
diana_clarkemordred, dims, and I have been working on un-breaking the gate17:16
timsim<317:17
* timsim hasn't had any time to look at it17:17
mugsieI have not been avaoiding you delibertly - I have been stuck in internal work for the last few days17:17
mordredheya17:17
trungnvregard to Open discuss, I want to talking about rolling-upgrade for designate17:17
mugsieits down to the new eventlet?17:17
mordredyah - it is17:17
diana_clarkemugsie: yup17:17
mugsie-_-17:17
mordredwith the upcoming even newer eventlet we're down to 2 unittest failures17:18
mugsieOK. it could also be the way we intialise eventlet17:18
mugsiewe do it really early17:18
timsimWe changed that somewhat recently too didn't we?17:18
mugsieyeah, so it is not quite as early, but still early17:18
dimsso folks, are you ok with dropping off from requirements process?17:18
mugsiedims: I would rather not17:18
mugsiebut if we are causeing issues, we should17:18
mordredyah - that was the release-valve idea we came up with for you17:19
dimsmugsie : problem is the firehose of g-r/u-c updates is hard to keep up with17:19
mordredbasically, turn it off until new eventlet and until you get a chance to fix the remaining issues17:19
mugsie90% of the time we are OK17:19
diana_clarkeThere's some additional discussion here too: https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/390#issuecomment-29149733017:19
mordredand then turn it back on17:19
mugsieyeah17:19
* timsim has a feeling it'll never get turned back on17:19
mugsieI am sorry to have been MIA for so much of this, but I will clear some time this week17:19
mordredthere's also sqlalchyemy issues: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451569/17:20
mordredwith the new sqla17:20
dimstimsim : folks like me who do not know anything cannot help unfortunately17:20
mugsieyeah - I saw that17:20
dimsit's not just eventlet...17:20
timsimThis isn't new, we've just normally had the time to address these kinds of issues, this last week has just been tough on mugsie and I.17:21
mordredyah, for sure17:21
mordredfwiw, I'm happy to do whatever I can to be helpful - but the outstanding eventlet issue confuses me and I have no idea what's actually breaking17:21
dimstimsim : mugsie : i am ok to leave things as is until one of you has the time. i just don't want to be pressured to revert things back in g-r/u-c17:21
diana_clarketimsim: No worries from my point of view, I was just playing in your sandbox for fun. I'm not actually running into designate issues.17:22
dimsbecause of designate17:22
mugsieyeah - I need to get an env up and running17:22
mugsiedims: understandable17:22
dimsthanks mugsie17:22
timsimI wouldn't worry about that dims. It's on us to get it figured out if everyone else is fine.17:22
mugsiediana_clarke: and thanks for that17:22
trungnvCould I discuss about my topic in Open discuss at the moment? -- Rolling upgrade (trungnv)17:22
* mugsie is trying to figure out how to get py3.5 on OpenSuse LEAP right now17:22
dimsthanks for saying that timsim17:23
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mugsietrungnv: let us finish up on the gate, and then we will move on to rolling upgrade17:23
trungnvmugsie: yes.17:23
mugsieI think the gist is we (me / timsim ) need spend a day or so fixing the outstanding issues17:23
mugsiediana_clarke: mordred are you OK if we take your patches and move them around / combine them / etc ?17:24
mordredplease do!17:24
diana_clarkemugsie: yup :)17:24
mugsiecool.17:24
timsimAlright, so we'll get on that ASAP.17:24
mugsie++17:24
mordred\o/17:25
timsim#action timsim/mugsie to do the needful to fix the gates17:25
dimsgreat thanks mugsie diana_clarke and timsim17:25
timsim<3 for stepping in dims diana_clarke mordred it's much appreciated17:25
timsimAlright trungnv go ahead.17:26
mordredtimsim: sure thing - sorry we couldn't figure out the final bit17:26
trungnvyes. thanks.17:26
timsimNo worries. That's a particularly nasty one.17:26
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diana_clarkeIf we knew why this test [1] is failing, I think we'd be able to fix the gate.17:27
diana_clarke[1] http://logs.openstack.org/95/453195/2/check/gate-designate-python27-ubuntu-xenial/a02a2d1/console.html#_2017-04-05_13_38_38_61086917:27
mugsiensd !?!?!?!17:27
diana_clarke( I think that's the last hurdle)17:27
mugsiegah17:27
mugsieits a experimental backend -_-17:27
mugsieOK - that helps17:27
mugsieOK, I think we have everything for the gate17:28
diana_clarkeThat's from: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453195/17:28
diana_clarke(obs, lol)17:28
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trungnvNow I can start?17:30
mugsiesure17:30
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trungnvthis is my BL about rolling-upgrade: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/designate-rolling-upgrade17:30
trungnvI am working at Fujitsu company. and we want to attempt with Designate in our schedules.17:31
trungnvAnd we want to implement rolling-upgrade for Designate in next cycle.17:31
mugsieOK17:31
mugsiethis is a lot of detailed work, especially for anyone not familiar with the codebase17:32
trungnvyes.17:32
trungnvfor the detail items, I will listed out later.17:32
trungnvNow I really need to get an approval to next my schedule.17:33
mugsieA cycle is quite short for this - most projects have done this over 2 or 317:33
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trungnvperhaps, I am trying to implement this feature in this cycle.17:34
timsimThere also seems to be bits of it that just aren't possible. For example, OVO17:34
mugsieyeah17:34
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mordred ?OVO17:34
timsimoslo versioned objects17:34
mugsieOslo versiojned objects17:34
mordredoh - yah17:34
timsimtrungnv: What is the actual reason for wanting this specific thing?17:35
mugsiewe have our own, that are pretty much incompatible17:35
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timsimtrungnv: Is it just coming out17:35
timsimoops17:35
timsimcoming out of wanting to have a good upgrade experience?17:35
mugsiealso, API microversions - there would need to be a *very* strong case why we need them for rolling upgrade17:35
timsimThe upgrades for N-P and onward should be, at most, drop new config, new code, restart services.17:36
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timsimYeah microversions isn't happening in all likelihood17:36
trungnvrolling-upgrade is good feature to implment for any projects.17:36
mugsiebut, we should apply for the accessible-upgrade tag17:36
mugsieit can be. but the extra code complexity needed for it need to be examined17:37
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mugsieseen as we have our data plane completely separate, we are not in as bad a place as other projects17:37
timsimtrungnv: Right, but if the entire idea behind achieving the tag is to have a good upgrade experience, and ours is already 80% of the way there, without doing 1000 hours of work, it doesn't make sense.17:38
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mugsieif we had 200 engineers like nova, it might be worth it - but we have at most 2 or 317:38
mugsieI would want to understand what code we need to add befreo we say yes17:39
mugsieand what impact it will have17:39
mugsieand some of the bits will be useful17:39
trungnvI know, for next future then rolling-upgrade need to implment. and assign rolling-upgrade tag for it.17:40
trungnvI will listed out detail items in the next meeting for you.17:40
mugsieOK, we can look at the level of complexity then17:40
timsimThat's fine, but I'd urge you to examine __why__ you want rolling upgrade, so that we can address the actual need that you have perhaps without doing the full rolling-upgrade tag experience.17:41
timsimAlright, anyone else have anything?17:42
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trungnvwith rolling-upgrade feature.17:42
diana_clarkenot me, cheers folks17:42
sonuktimsim: i have17:42
timsimWhat's up sonuk17:43
trungnvthanks. see you next meeting.17:43
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sonukI create an instance in domain  in one ragion but i want that domain to be resolved in another region17:43
mugsiehumm - 2 separate installs?17:44
sonukboth region are on the same netwprk17:44
sonuk*network17:45
mugsieok, I am not understanding the issue17:45
sonukmugsie: yes17:45
mugsiewe tell people to run a single designate install17:45
mugsie(like keystone)17:45
mugsiebut, unless you block DNS traffic, it should work17:46
sonukmugsie: one openstack deployment with regionone and another openstack deployment with region two and have two designate17:46
sonukbut keystone shared17:47
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mugsieyeah - we recommned sharing a designate like keystone17:47
mugsiewhy cant each region get to the others DNS servers?17:48
mugsieI have to run, but sonuk we can continue in #openstack-dns later if that suits?17:50
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sonukmugsie: can i  resolve the created instance domain of oneregion in another region with some pool config17:50
timsimSame, I need to run.17:50
mugsiesonuk: I think we need to talk about this in more detail - I am not sure what the problem is17:51
sonuktimsim: ok we can continue on another channel np.17:51
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timsimsonuk: It's about DNS resolution though, not anything Designate specific. If you have a host that needs to resolve something that's sitting on a DNS server in another region, you should ensure that for that zone, the DNS server in the other region is authoratative and that your resolver is going to go there when it queries for that zone.17:51
timsimAlright, let's wrap up17:52
timsimSee you all in #openstack-dns17:52
timsim#endmeeting17:52
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  5 20:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
johnsomHi folks!20:00
sshankHello20:00
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xgermano/20:00
johnsomIt seems pretty quiet in the channel today.20:00
johnsomNot sure how many folks will join20:00
johnsomI also have a pretty short agenda20:01
johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
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johnsomAll I really have is we have made great progress on the Octavia v2 API.  I think we mostly have health monitor, status, and stats left.20:01
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johnsomI will probably port my quota endpoint over today as well.20:02
nmagnezio/20:02
johnsomMitaka goes EOL in five days.  4/1020:02
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johnsomThat is also the Pike-1 milestone week20:03
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johnsomAny other announcements?20:03
xgermanTC elections?20:03
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johnsomOh yeah, I saw some campaign e-mails go out.20:03
johnsomAlso "reverify" may not work in the gates soon20:04
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:05
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johnsomI have been really focused in helping the testing effort for the API.20:05
johnsomI also did some work to fix some breakage in the stable branches.  I might have a bit more to do there, but it's in pretty good shape.  Both devstack and DIB caused issues this round20:06
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johnsomAny other progress updates?  patches to look at?20:07
nmagnezii'm working on the user_group patch20:07
nmagnezi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429398/20:07
johnsomHow is that going?  Between rm_work and diltram do you have a plan?20:07
nmagnezibasically what I have left is to take care of a "new agent old controller" scenario20:07
nmagneziyup20:07
johnsomOk cool!20:07
nmagnezithe logic here basically will be20:08
nmagnezion controller just add deprecation note20:08
nmagnezion agent: use the baked user group file and if user_group is provided by the controller, ignore it20:08
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nmagneziand by "ignore" i mean that it will not write the "group = xxx" in the haproxy.cfg file20:09
nmagnezii managed to get it working with a nice regex20:09
johnsomYeah, that makes sense20:09
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nmagnezinow i seem to have some encoding issue because newlines don't work20:09
nmagnezibut i'll fix it20:09
nmagnezithat's the update :)20:09
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johnsomNice20:10
nmagnezii hope to finish this tonight (which is now, for me) or tomorrow20:10
nmagnezinext week I'll be mostly off for holiday20:10
johnsomNice, enjoy!20:10
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nmagnezithanks you :)20:10
nmagnezithank*20:10
johnsom#topic Discuss asynchronous API and response handling20:10
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johnsomI was going to discuss how the async API is working with Octavia v2, but I'm not sure we have a good quorum this week.20:11
johnsomIt's spring break in some parts of the states, so a bunch of folks are traveling20:11
xgermanseems like it20:11
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johnsomThe summary here is the Octavia v2 API is an asynchronous API.  When folks make a update request, currently it returns the old data and a PENDING_UPDATE status.  This allows the backend to make the changes and rollback if the operation fails.20:12
johnsomIt can be a bit odd to get back the old information from an update call however, even though it's PENDING_UPDATE20:13
xgermanyeah, since POST behaves differently20:13
johnsomSo the question is should we "fake up" the returned response from a PUT (update) call for the user.  Which means a followup GET would return different results.  Or should we leave it as is.20:14
johnsomYeah, with POST there is no old data, it's all new...20:14
xgermanis there any guidance how other OpenStack stuff works20:15
xgerman?20:15
johnsomThe third option would be to capture the old settings, send those along with the new ones to the handlers, and update the database right away.  If something fails rollback using the saved data.  This seems a bit heavy weight20:15
johnsomI have not seen guidelines, but I haven't dug to deeply.  I think we need to investigate this more.20:17
johnsomWe should probably do research and plan to come back next week to make a decision20:17
xgermanmy brief Google search (http://restful-api-design.readthedocs.io/en/latest/methods.html) suggests we are doing it all wrong and shiuld have used PATCH20:17
johnsomHa20:18
johnsomThat may very well be true, but that would mean shifting all of OpenStack....20:18
johnsomThere does seem to be some discussion of that here: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/http.html20:19
xgermanwell, they agree with PATCH :-)20:20
johnsomMaybe we look at PATCH in the future....20:20
xgermanjust saying…20:20
johnsomWe do need to maintain compatibility with neutron....20:21
xgermanyep20:21
johnsomOk, let's do some research and come back with ideas20:21
xgerman+120:21
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:21
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johnsomAny other topics for today?20:22
nmagnezinothing on my end20:22
xgermannot really —20:22
nmagnezioh, actually a question20:22
nmagneziwas there any progress with active active?20:22
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nmagnezii haven't seen anything for a while20:22
johnsomCool.  There is a good chance will with have the base API in place by Pike-1.  There is still stuff to add, but most of the base stuff will be there.20:23
nmagnezibut i usually don't track patches who failed CI20:23
xgermanyeah, we are thinking about that, too20:23
johnsomnmagnezi No, it seems that the developers on active/active have not done work on it in a while.  We have not heard from them20:23
johnsomWe may have lost that development resource20:24
xgermanand we are mulling if we should take over/salvage the code or start from scracth or…20:24
nmagnezithat would be unfortunate20:24
johnsomI don't want to drop it, but I'm not sure the rest of us have developers that can work on it now20:24
johnsomThere is a spec however, for another implementation of active/active20:24
johnsomThat is up for review.20:25
xgermanyep20:25
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/45300520:25
xgermanI think if we just put in the base and then do something “simple” with ovs…not sure20:25
nmagnezioh that was the webex call20:25
xgermanyep20:26
johnsomYeah, I feel the same.  The basics are there, we just need to do a bunch of work to fix the code20:26
johnsomYes20:26
xgermanthen we have the flavor spec which isn’t moving neither20:26
johnsomRight20:26
johnsomMaybe now that the API is in place that will gain steam again20:26
nmagnezihopefully20:27
xgermanyeah, maybe I adopt active-active20:27
johnsomThat could be a plan20:27
johnsomFrom the initial reviews I did, it's mostly duplicate code issues and missing act/stndby for the distributor20:28
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Active-_Active_Topology_commits20:28
johnsomThat was the list20:28
* nmagnezi wishes xgerman that the force will be with him20:29
xgermannmagnezi what are you working on those days?20:29
nmagnezixgerman, a bit external to the octavia code base, but I'm working with a TripleO core to support octavia deployment via tripleO. and we are getting very close20:29
xgermannice!20:30
xgermantripleO - smebody bought me a beer because he felt bad about it20:30
johnsomIt counts in my book20:30
nmagneziafter that I plan to try to tackle upgrades/migrations (to allow everyone who use haproxy in namespace to eventually somehow migrate)20:30
xgermanNICE!20:30
johnsomCool20:30
johnsomLet me know if I can support you in that20:31
nmagnezialso i would like to look into an option for kubernetes driver for Octavia20:31
nmagnezisince nova lxd is a bit ubuntu centric..20:31
johnsomGrin20:31
nmagnezi:D20:31
johnsomWell, we will support you in that adventure as well20:32
nmagnezihah20:32
nmagnezithank you :-)20:32
xgermanyeah, I know K8 like tha back of my hand… so, yes20:32
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johnsomnova-lxd work is trying to get some bugs resolved last I heard20:32
nmagnezixgerman, on a related note, today i saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418530/20:33
nmagnezixgerman, is it ready for testing?20:33
xgermanwell, it relies heavily on filters20:33
nmagnezixgerman, (also, I'm not sure what is the expected end result, but i didn't actually read the patch just yet)20:33
nmagnezijohnsom, yeah but diltram managed to get an amphora running, no?20:33
xgermanoh, it replaces the lbaas plugin with a proxy one.20:34
johnsomAlso our first openstack client command is close to being done.  "openstack loadbalancer list"20:34
xgermanI can do that on the proxy as well ;-)20:34
johnsomYeah, he got it working in a PoC with some patches.  Trying to upstream those now20:34
xgermannmagnezi if you switch off quotas in neutron you can create load balancer20:35
xgermanwith the proxy20:35
xgermanso the proxy is ready but the API not so much…20:35
johnsomWhat is the issue with quotas?20:35
xgermanit will so a GET with a filter yo check and then bunk20:35
nmagnezixgerman, so when it is implemented, when I create a loadbalancer i will get created with an amp or haproxy ns? (sorry if it's a dump question)20:36
johnsomAh, yeah, ok.  So pending the filter support20:36
xgermannmagnexi it will proxy it to octavia so it will create an ovtavia LB for now20:36
xgerman(until we have a namespace driver in Octavia)20:36
xgermansince I replace the plugin all other drivers won’t work20:37
johnsomIt takes the request sent to neutron and directly proxies it to the new octavia API20:37
xgermanyep20:37
nmagnezigot it. :) and after Pike we won't need the neutron-lbaas code base anymore, right?20:38
johnsomWell, we will keep it around for a while for deprecation purposes and to give time for folks to migrate20:38
nmagnezimeaning, we eventually expect that we will be able to configure the plugin path directly to Octavia's codebase some time in the future20:38
xgermanyes.20:39
nmagneziyup. migrations are important :D20:39
xgermanand not sure if all vendors will port their driver…20:39
johnsomI certainly hope so...20:40
johnsomOk, any other topics for today?20:40
nmagnezinop20:40
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johnsomOk, Thanks for joining.  Have an nice break nmagnezi20:41
nmagnezithanks johnsom :)20:41
johnsom#endmeeting20:41
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