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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 10 14:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Good UGT Morning, all! | 14:00 |
| jimbaker | o/ | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | ya, here. | 14:00 |
| macsz | \o | 14:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | well, let's get into it. | 14:01 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs & Reviews | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs & Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:01 | |
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| bauzas | \o | 14:01 |
| edleafe | Traits | 14:01 |
| edleafe | #link Add Traits API to Placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376200/ | 14:01 |
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| edleafe | That looks like it's ready to go | 14:02 |
| edleafe | Any comments? | 14:02 |
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| cdent | apparently not | 14:03 |
| edleafe | Next up: os-traits | 14:03 |
| edleafe | #link os-traits reorg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448282/ | 14:03 |
| edleafe | I added my automation on top of the NIC code | 14:03 |
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| cdent | ed's automation and de-register +1 | 14:03 |
| edleafe | Again, this series looks ready to go | 14:04 |
| edleafe | Next up: Placement API | 14:04 |
| edleafe | #link Improvements to PUT and POST https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447625/ | 14:04 |
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| cdent | looks like it just needs its +W back | 14:04 |
| edleafe | That's got a ton of +2s, but no +W | 14:05 |
| edleafe | Any reason why? | 14:05 |
| edleafe | oh, wait - the rechecks | 14:05 |
| cdent | It did, but got rebased | 14:05 |
| edleafe | bauzas had +W'd it earlier | 14:05 |
| bauzas | kaboom | 14:06 |
| edleafe | thx | 14:06 |
| bauzas | or rather +W'aboom | 14:06 |
| edleafe | heh | 14:06 |
| edleafe | Moving on: Claims in placement spec | 14:07 |
| edleafe | #link WIP placement doing claims: https://review.openstack.org/437424 | 14:07 |
| edleafe | #link Forum session proposed for claims in the scheduler: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/63 | 14:07 |
| edleafe | We'll be having a hangout in a few hours to discuss this in more depth to help move it forward | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | i need to follow up with fifeld | 14:08 |
| mriedem | *t | 14:08 |
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| edleafe | So please join the hangout at 1600 UTC. mriedem will post the link in -nova, right? | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | umm, | 14:10 |
| mriedem | it's super secret | 14:10 |
| mriedem | but i can | 14:10 |
| bauzas | FWIW, I haven't yet updated the spec, holding until the Clarification | 14:10 |
| edleafe | We Follow the 3.5 Opens! | 14:10 |
| jimbaker | :) | 14:11 |
| edleafe | ok, next up: Show scheduler hints in server details | 14:11 |
| edleafe | #link Show sched. hints in server details: https://review.openstack.org/440580 | 14:11 |
| edleafe | There are mixed opinions on whether this belongs in all server detail responses, or only when specifically requested. | 14:11 |
| mriedem | if we did this, | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i agree it should be a subresource as sdague noted | 14:11 |
| edleafe | IMO it's unnecessary clutter | 14:11 |
| mriedem | it sounds like gibi wants to abandon now though | 14:11 |
| edleafe | ah, ok. Hadn't looked in a few days | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | unless something changes in the next couple of days, | 14:13 |
| mriedem | it will probably die on the vine for pike | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Moving on: Nested Resource Providers | 14:13 |
| edleafe | #link Nested RPs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415920/ | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Nested Resource provider series still on hold until traits is done, but will this effort be revived soon? | 14:13 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: ^^ | 14:14 |
| edleafe | since traits is pretty darn close | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: it's rebased locally, but will need to be rebased again with the 1.6 mircoversion that traits API adds. | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: I'd really like to get the os-traits patches merged. | 14:15 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: there don't seem to be any objections to them, right? | 14:15 |
| edleafe | what do they need to get over the finish line? | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: just needs core reviews AFAIK | 14:16 |
| edleafe | ok, cores, you know who you are! | 14:16 |
| mriedem | i don't | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | i've starred that last change, i haven't reviewed any of the traits stuff, | 14:16 |
| mriedem | but i can try to get to it with some gentle prodding | 14:16 |
| mriedem | this afternoon | 14:17 |
| * edleafe gets out the virtual cattle prod | 14:17 | |
| cdent | I think you need a sheep prod, if you want gentle | 14:17 |
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| cdent | I've got a spec to add to the list, which i forgot to put on the agenda, once we get to the end | 14:18 |
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| edleafe | OK, then, last agenda item: Use local-scheduler spec | 14:19 |
| edleafe | #link Add use-local-scheduler spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438936/ | 14:19 |
| edleafe | Seems like a bit of a misnomer - more like "merge scheduler into conductor" | 14:19 |
| mriedem | i think that one is premature for pike, last i checked | 14:19 |
| edleafe | agreed | 14:20 |
| bauzas | well, it could be good to have it for cellsv2 | 14:20 |
| cdent | it's in "backlog" so okay | 14:20 |
| bauzas | but yeah, pike seems early | 14:20 |
| mriedem | oh didn't realize it was backlog | 14:20 |
| macsz | i moved it | 14:20 |
| macsz | it seems we are not yet ready for this, either way | 14:20 |
| macsz | agreed or not | 14:20 |
| mriedem | the recent discovery of the instance info upcalls from compute scared me for this one | 14:20 |
| macsz | kept the comments, will address them later, after the spec freeze | 14:21 |
| edleafe | ok, then - cdent, you had a spec to add? | 14:21 |
| cdent | yeah, wrote it up last week after realizing my api change needed one | 14:22 |
| cdent | #link placement idempotent put resource class: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453732/ | 14:22 |
| cdent | there's already code for that. the change is relatively straightforward, and it has a small but relevant data integrity impact | 14:22 |
| edleafe | OK, then let's get some specs-core reviewers to go over that one | 14:23 |
| edleafe | Anything else for specs & reviews? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | so this is just create-or-update right? | 14:24 |
| cdent | mriedem: yes | 14:24 |
| cdent | just to mention, there are pending placement-api-ref changes in progress | 14:24 |
| cdent | get your reviews in early if you want to help set tone or whatever | 14:24 |
| cdent | it's probably going to be a many stage process | 14:25 |
| cdent | #link placement-api-ref https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:cd/placement-api-ref | 14:25 |
| cdent | mriedem: actually it's not realy update, more create-or-verify, as there's no body | 14:26 |
| edleafe | "make sure this exists" | 14:26 |
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| edleafe | cdent: be sure to add those to the agenda if there are any issues | 14:27 |
| edleafe | Anything else for specs & reviews? | 14:27 |
| cdent | edleafe: none, yet, but wil | 14:27 |
| cdent | l | 14:27 |
| _gryf | edleafe, regarding "Provide detailed error information for placement API" (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/) blueprint, it seems that I will not be able to finish this | 14:27 |
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| edleafe | _gryf: is it a time constraint, or an issue with the BP itself? | 14:28 |
| _gryf | edleafe, neither (or both) | 14:29 |
| edleafe | :) | 14:29 |
| mriedem | _gryf isn't working on openstack anymore, right? | 14:29 |
| mriedem | so it's a person constraint | 14:29 |
| macsz | mriedem: yes | 14:29 |
| _gryf | edleafe, I've been assigned to different tasks within my division | 14:29 |
| edleafe | _gryf: ah, understood. | 14:30 |
| * cdent shakes his tiny fist | 14:30 | |
| _gryf | so that I've simply no time for finish that. | 14:30 |
| * _gryf is really sorry | 14:30 | |
| bauzas | _gryf: don't be sorry | 14:30 |
| bauzas | never. | 14:30 |
| cdent | just to be clear my fist is shaking at capitalism (or something) not _gryf | 14:31 |
| bauzas | cdent: it's life and life can be hard | 14:31 |
| edleafe | well, it looks like a worthwhile BP. | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | if we could get closure on the spec, | 14:31 |
| mriedem | and agreement to a plan, | 14:31 |
| mriedem | then that would be a good clean break, | 14:31 |
| mriedem | and someone else could pick it up | 14:31 |
| mriedem | having said that, i haven't reviewed it | 14:32 |
| bauzas | we could put that for the nova 101 session at the Forum | 14:32 |
| bauzas | I guess some folks could be interested in working on operator-related issues | 14:32 |
| * johnthetubaguy wonders about the consistent API errors work, and the logging working group | 14:32 | |
| bauzas | that too, of course, but let's not diverge | 14:32 |
| bauzas | I just think that blueprint is worth being shared with volunteers | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | well that is one of the consistent API errors bit, just thinking about co-ordinating those efforts | 14:33 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: +2 | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | API-WG spec is maybe enough, just curious | 14:33 |
| edleafe | sorry, didn't mean to sound that enthusiastic | 14:33 |
| edleafe | I really just meant +1 | 14:34 |
| * edleafe has fat fingers | 14:34 | |
| johnthetubaguy | lol | 14:34 |
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| bauzas | paying more is always appreciated :) | 14:34 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: got your point, maybe the above doesn't require a spec then ? | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | it needs a spec, its an API change | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | just curious on co-ordination | 14:35 |
| bauzas | sorry, I'm unclear | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | but we should move on if no one has an update | 14:35 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: something for the api-wg meeting? | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | probably | 14:36 |
| bauzas | I was misunderstanding by the fact that I thought we had a spec covering that already | 14:36 |
| edleafe | OK, moving on then | 14:37 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:37 |
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| edleafe | None added to the agenda | 14:37 |
| edleafe | Anyone have a bug that they would like to focus on? | 14:37 |
| mriedem | i sort of have something | 14:37 |
| mriedem | due to time, | 14:37 |
| mriedem | i haven't written a functional test for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1679750 but someone could | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1679750 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Allocations are not cleaned up in placement for instance 'local delete' case" [Undecided,New] | 14:37 |
| mriedem | we have some local delete functional tests now under nova/tests/functional/regressions that could be copied as a start | 14:38 |
| mriedem | not a huge issue, | 14:38 |
| mriedem | plus, i guess it depends on if we actually decide to delete allocations in placement from the api during a local delete scenario | 14:38 |
| mriedem | we could also handle cleaning up the allocations when the host comes back up | 14:39 |
| mriedem | which would keep nova-api from needing to have a dependency on placement, which might be ideal | 14:39 |
| edleafe | mriedem: stuff like this was the reason for the periodic updates, no? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | anywho, ^ is a quagmire for someone to drown in | 14:40 |
| mriedem | edleafe: maybe? | 14:40 |
| edleafe | we kind of know that things can get out of sync from time to time | 14:40 |
| jimbaker | standard cleanup quandary it would seem... :) | 14:40 |
| mriedem | however, | 14:40 |
| mriedem | i assume the periodic updates in the compute rely on actually having instances running on that host right? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | since those are tied to the allocations as the consumer_id | 14:41 |
| mriedem | if we delete the instances in the api, then i doubt anything in the compute is looking up those deleted instances and cleaning up allocations | 14:41 |
| cdent | the allocations for the entire host are retrieved as well, and compared | 14:41 |
| mriedem | they are zombies | 14:41 |
| mriedem | if this is a non-issue, i'm happy | 14:41 |
| cdent | (if I recall correctly, ymmv, etc) | 14:41 |
| edleafe | that's something that has been kind of hand-wavy. One of the reasons we want to add a bunch of functional tests that cover these scenarios | 14:41 |
| mriedem | but i'm fairly sure we don't have a functional test for the scenario to be able to tell | 14:41 |
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| edleafe | jinx | 14:42 |
| mriedem | hence why i was going to write that first | 14:42 |
| mriedem | but time | 14:42 |
| cdent | thank goodness edleafe said it, it would be bad form to call jinx on other people | 14:42 |
| mriedem | ok i'm done | 14:42 |
| edleafe | #agreed Bad form to call jinx on other people | 14:42 |
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| edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:43 |
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| edleafe | So... what's on your mind? | 14:43 |
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| jimbaker | although i plan to be lurking for a bit, i do plan to work on nova related things going forward, as part of osic; most likely scheuler | 14:44 |
| jimbaker | scheduler | 14:44 |
| jimbaker | so hi everyone | 14:44 |
| * johnthetubaguy waves at jimbaker | 14:44 | |
| cdent | yay, new people | 14:44 |
| jroll | \o/ | 14:44 |
| * edleafe hands jimbaker a cookie | 14:44 | |
| jimbaker | thanks everyone! | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent I spoke to jimbaker about your email on the placement performance | 14:45 |
| cdent | ah, excellent | 14:46 |
| jimbaker | yep, so that looks like a good way into the project | 14:46 |
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| jimbaker | touches a few things | 14:46 |
| cdent | I think as a first pass just observing placement under load to see how it behaves is a great start | 14:46 |
| cdent | I've never taken it beyond a single node :( | 14:46 |
| mriedem | hell, | 14:47 |
| cdent | then from those observations some more rigorous testing ought to reveal itself | 14:47 |
| mriedem | comparing boot times between filter scheduler with placement and without would be a nice start | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mentioned fake virt, no idea how good that is right now for this purpose | 14:47 |
| jimbaker | johnthetubaguy asked me to look at workload characterization with respect to placement performance - so i guess we will look at more than one node after all | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 14:47 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure if rally/os-profiler would tell us enough info before/after using placement in the scheduler or not | 14:48 |
| mriedem | but you could do that with newton pretty easily | 14:48 |
| mriedem | as placement in the scheduler is optional in newton, if it's not there the scheduler falls back to the pre-placement code | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | true newton does both, good idea | 14:49 |
| mriedem | doing this comparison in ocata would be tricky | 14:49 |
| jimbaker | got it | 14:49 |
| mriedem | ping me if you need details on how to fake that out for a test run in newton | 14:49 |
| mriedem | i think even single node to start would be fine | 14:50 |
| bauzas | no | 14:50 |
| bauzas | ocata does both | 14:50 |
| jimbaker | mriedem, thanks. and in general, i think instrumentation is a good thing. i'm sure i will it get it wrong at first | 14:50 |
| bauzas | newton can do placement, but with less features | 14:50 |
| mriedem | bauzas: oh that's right | 14:50 |
| mriedem | good point | 14:50 |
| cdent | right, the filter scheduler doesn't start requesting providers until ocata | 14:50 |
| mriedem | jimbaker: yeah sorry, so start with ocata | 14:50 |
| bauzas | while ocata can exactly do both, if you run newton computes | 14:50 |
| mriedem | ocata will fallback if placement isn't available | 14:51 |
| mriedem | or not new enough | 14:51 |
| jimbaker | but my general sense of things is that better instrumentation results in better implementations, and better ecosystem in general | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, so just kill the endpoint in keystone to fall back | 14:51 |
| bauzas | oh man, jimbaker has the exact same pidgin color than mriedem | 14:51 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: or goof the placement creds in nova.conf | 14:52 |
| jimbaker | hashing to a small number of bits... got to love it | 14:52 |
| mriedem | anyway | 14:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thats simpler | 14:52 |
| mriedem | we can discuss the details later | 14:52 |
| jimbaker | again, thanks for the ideas, and i know who to find here! | 14:52 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I'd just use newton computes with ocata scheduler | 14:52 |
| mriedem | reminds me i need to figure out how to get a new devstack vm in the new job | 14:52 |
| bauzas | bench them | 14:52 |
| * macsz has the same color problem with mriedem johnthetubaguy and _gryf | 14:52 | |
| bauzas | and then, start deploying placement and rollup ocata computes | 14:52 |
| mriedem | bauzas: that seems much more complicated for someone that's new | 14:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: that sounds complicated | 14:53 |
| mriedem | throwing upgrades into the mix would just make this harder | 14:53 |
| bauzas | fair enough | 14:53 |
| mriedem | jimbaker: we can talk in -nova after the meeting | 14:53 |
| mriedem | which should end right now! | 14:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | makes it hard to switch back to retest, but lots of ways | 14:54 |
| bauzas | yup, 3 hours of meetings back to back | 14:54 |
| jimbaker | mriedem, +1 | 14:54 |
| edleafe | hey,w e still have 6 minutes! | 14:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: good hinting | 14:54 |
| bauzas | and I'm just at the end of my first hour | 14:54 |
| * edleafe was just letting you guys hash it out | 14:54 | |
| bauzas | so, please save my soul | 14:54 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 10 14:54:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-04-10-14.00.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-04-10-14.00.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-04-10-14.00.log.html | 14:54 |
| cdent | thanks edleafe | 14:54 |
| jimbaker | thanks! | 14:54 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 10 15:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:01 |
| electrocucaracha | o/ | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | hi everyone | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | let's start from reviewing priorities set in previous meeting | 15:02 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Review priorities from prev meeting | 15:02 |
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| ihrachys | first was the /extensions/ convergence spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451993/ | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | thanks electrocucaracha and manjeets for having a first look | 15:03 |
| electrocucaracha | :) | 15:03 |
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| electrocucaracha | the idea is great | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | there was some discussion of that proposal on the last drivers meeting | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | there are some concerns of complexity, but it was decided that drivers will have a look at the write-up | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | so it's basically pending more discussion at this point | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | next was migrate_data CLI command: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432494/ | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | I see it's not respinned | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha, what's the status there? | 15:06 |
| electrocucaracha | I have spent time in other things | 15:08 |
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| electrocucaracha | specially wsgi stuff | 15:08 |
| electrocucaracha | so, it's still on my plate hopefully this weeks looks better | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | yeah, I saw you respinning wsgi | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | gotta get back to it | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | ok I guess we will have something next week | 15:10 |
| electrocucaracha | but at least there is some reviews there were I can address them | 15:10 |
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| ihrachys | next was LIKE support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419152/ | 15:10 |
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| ihrachys | I just reviewed it and left some comments | 15:10 |
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| ihrachys | both test issues and something to tinker with the design/naming/... | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | next was update_objects: https://review.openstack.org/452266 | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | asingh_, I see you respinned the patch. | 15:11 |
| electrocucaracha | she still have a couple of things to do there | 15:12 |
| asingh_ | ihrachys i included few lines to code if updatable fields don't exist in a model then skip | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | that makes sense. I still see "sqlalchemy.exc.InvalidRequestError: Could not evaluate current criteria in Python. Specify 'fetch' or False for the synchronize_session parameter." | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | at least the skip brings failure toll lower :) | 15:13 |
| asingh_ | ihrachys this solved failing testcase in FlatAllocation. Also it seems that standard_attribute id is not being loaded and update_objects is trying to update the same and thus failing testcase | 15:14 |
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| ihrachys | you mean same revision? | 15:14 |
| asingh_ | yes , thats what i have observed | 15:15 |
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| ihrachys | oh ok. maybe the revision number bumping mechanism hasn't triggered because we do everything on server side | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | in which case we may have to have two different update_objects implementations for revision-carrying and simple models. | 15:17 |
| ihrachys | for the first type, we would go through full fetch/set/commit cycle | 15:17 |
| ihrachys | ok I guess we have a way forward here | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | next in line was https://review.openstack.org/367810 (endpoints OVO) | 15:19 |
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| ihrachys | this seems pending resolution of issues with update_objects? | 15:20 |
| electrocucaracha | let me check with her | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | then we could utilize that | 15:21 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: yes, that was she said | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | ok | 15:22 |
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| ihrachys | asingh_, do you plan to work on update_objects? do you understand the idea with two implementations? | 15:23 |
| asingh_ | ihrachys at this point i don't understand the idea of two implementations | 15:24 |
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| ihrachys | ok, so the idea is that we may do filter_by().update() for models not having standard attrs; but for get_objects(): ...; obj.update() for the latter | 15:25 |
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| ihrachys | so that for those that have standard attributes, we fetch models, triggering the revision bump logic | 15:25 |
| ihrachys | we can discuss that afterwards, or I can poke it | 15:26 |
| asingh_ | yes , that works | 15:26 |
| electrocucaracha | I'd like to be involved in that discussion if I can | 15:27 |
| * electrocucaracha even when I have to complete the online migration | 15:27 | |
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| ihrachys | sure, I guess I better post the suggestion in gerrit for everyone to see | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to comment on the plan for update_objects for standard attrs aware objects | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | next in line was router extra attrs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381209/ | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | I see it was respinned | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | seems like now it's passing the gate | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | I will have another look | 15:30 |
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| ihrachys | final in the list is HARouter: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361443/ | 15:31 |
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| ihrachys | it doesn't seem complete. I think it was brought up because of some issues that block the patch. | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | I haven't had a look | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | I see a bunch of comments there from others | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | would it make sense to adopt those and refresh the patch to see where we stand? | 15:32 |
| electrocucaracha | and a merge conflict | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | even if it's not complete and there are outstanding issues | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | then later this week we could have another look on what's going on there | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | sindhu, what do you think | 15:34 |
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| sindhu | ihrachys: I am addressing the comments. I have changes locally | 15:35 |
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| sindhu | ihrachys: getting lot of errors due to the changes made | 15:35 |
| sindhu | ihrachys: trying to figure out those | 15:35 |
| sindhu | ihrachys: will push a patch soon | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | nice | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | now let's finally get to the agenda ;) | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | #topic Linuxbridge multinode grenade job | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets, any progress | 15:36 |
| ihrachys | have you synced with kevinbenton on the matter | 15:37 |
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| ihrachys | ok seems like manjeets is out | 15:40 |
| electrocucaracha | I can try to contact him later | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | nah, we can revive next week | 15:41 |
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| ihrachys | at this point I feel we should not even bring it up until a progress is made | 15:41 |
| electrocucaracha | make sense | 15:41 |
| * ihrachys quickly looked through the list of OVO patches and UpgradeImpact and doesn't see anything critical that was not discussed | 15:42 | |
| ihrachys | so I think we can go straight to open mic | 15:42 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 15:42 |
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| electrocucaracha | I was thinking about the Rodolfo's change | 15:42 |
| electrocucaracha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361443/ | 15:42 |
| ihrachys | is it the right link? | 15:43 |
| electrocucaracha | sorry ,https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454220/ | 15:43 |
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| ihrachys | I am not sure I follow the reasoning of the bug report | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | first, we can't use anything for micro-versioning in neutron because there is no micro-versioning in neutron :) | 15:46 |
| electrocucaracha | me too, the reason that I took my attention was that it was related with OVO | 15:46 |
| ihrachys | rodrigods, what's the reason behind the qos OVO rework? | 15:46 |
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| ihrachys | I guess we will need to chase the author in other means | 15:49 |
| ihrachys | thanks for bringing it up electrocucaracha | 15:49 |
| electrocucaracha | I'm sure that they have their reasons to modify it but I don't like the idea to change something for previous versions | 15:50 |
| electrocucaracha | but let's see | 15:50 |
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| ihrachys | gotta understand the use case. | 15:51 |
| ihrachys | the bug right now is worded in such a way that suggests it's some internal code improvement with no clear benefit. | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | ok any more topics to discuss? | 15:53 |
| electrocucaracha | none from me | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | ok let's call it a day then | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | thanks for joining | 15:54 |
| electrocucaracha | thanks ihrachys | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | btw the review priorities are probably same since we haven't landed much | 15:55 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-04-10-15.01.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-04-10-15.01.txt | 15:55 |
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| kfarr | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 10 20:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kfarr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
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| namnh | hi everyone | 20:00 |
| kfarr | #topic roll call | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
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| hockeynut | o/ | 20:00 |
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| kfarr | Hey hockeynut ! | 20:01 |
| hockeynut | \o/ | 20:01 |
| * hockeynut is officially back on barbican now! w00t w00t! | 20:02 | |
| kfarr | Alright! That's great news | 20:02 |
| hockeynut | and apparently /me has scared everyone else away? | 20:02 |
| mathiasb | hi! | 20:02 |
| kfarr | It's looking like it might be quiet this week | 20:03 |
| kfarr | Hi matiasb ! | 20:03 |
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| kfarr | Alright, might as well get started | 20:04 |
| kfarr | #topic backlog review | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "backlog review (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:04 | |
| kfarr | We've been making pretty good progress on shrinking the review queues and the bug queue | 20:05 |
| kfarr | Let's keep it up! | 20:06 |
| kfarr | #topic Pike Status | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike Status (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:06 | |
| kfarr | This week is milestone 1 | 20:06 |
| kfarr | dave-mccowan put up a patch for the Barbican pike-1 release: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454787 | 20:06 |
| kfarr | Here was our etherpad for organizing tasks: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-tracker-pike | 20:07 |
| kfarr | and the launchpad blueprint: https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/pike-1 | 20:07 |
| hockeynut | that bp is just for pike-1 ? | 20:08 |
| kfarr | Oh, yes, just for pike-1 | 20:08 |
| kfarr | I suppose we'll roll everything over to pike-2 if it doesn't make it into pike-1? https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/pike-2 | 20:09 |
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| hockeynut | makes sense | 20:09 |
| kfarr | hockeynut I added your name on the etherpad along with alee 's for the devstack fix-up | 20:10 |
| hockeynut | yup - I see it! | 20:10 |
| kfarr | because I saw you were working on removing the rbac users from the devstack plugin script | 20:10 |
| kfarr | how's that going? | 20:10 |
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| alee | o/ | 20:10 |
| kfarr | alee \o/ | 20:10 |
| alee | kfarr, hey kfarr | 20:11 |
| hockeynut | seems to be working - need to be sure I've got all bases covered before I remove the -1 workflow | 20:11 |
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| kfarr | Gotcha! For the sake of thorough notes, here's the link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453829/ | 20:11 |
| hockeynut | that's the one | 20:12 |
| kfarr | alee we were just going over pike-1 items. Do you have anything you'd like to report on? | 20:12 |
| kfarr | dave-mccowan put up a merge request to release pike-1 | 20:12 |
| alee | kfarr, nope | 20:13 |
| alee | kfarr, unfortunaely I've been sidetracked - so no progress on anything for me | 20:13 |
| kfarr | alee no worries, I know how it is | 20:13 |
| kfarr | Moving on | 20:13 |
| kfarr | #topic summit | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:14 | |
| kfarr | I see an action item here in the meeting notes about confirming the use of FNTech cloud | 20:14 |
| kfarr | I'm not sure which presentation that was referring to | 20:15 |
| alee | kfarr, the fntech cloud isavialable this time round, and yes, we should use it again this time round | 20:15 |
| alee | likely for the workshop | 20:15 |
| kfarr | Yes, I agree | 20:15 |
| alee | kfarr, redrobot we should probaly get together maybe next week to discuss the workshop | 20:16 |
| alee | kfarr, redrobot as before , we'll have an hsm available | 20:16 |
| kfarr | Yes! I am starting to feel antsy about it | 20:16 |
| kfarr | alee that's great | 20:16 |
| alee | kfarr, I'm already chatting with the hsm guys to set stuff up | 20:16 |
| alee | kfarr, but most of what we had can be set up again this time round | 20:17 |
| alee | so we should look into what we want to change - if anything | 20:17 |
| kfarr | Yeah, it was a great idea to put everything in the repo | 20:17 |
| alee | kfarr, lets set up a meeting early next week when dave is around | 20:17 |
| kfarr | Yup good idea | 20:18 |
| alee | kfarr, in the meantime, I'll communicate with the fntech folks and confirm we'll need their stuff again | 20:18 |
| kfarr | alee do you have any particular days that will work for you next week? | 20:19 |
| alee | kfarr, mondays are always bad, other than ok, all good | 20:20 |
| alee | for the most part | 20:20 |
| kfarr | Cool, we can sort it out next week anyway | 20:20 |
| kfarr | #action set up planning meeting for Barbican hands-on workship | 20:21 |
| kfarr | Ok, moving on | 20:21 |
| kfarr | #topic Queens PTG | 20:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens PTG (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:21 | |
| kfarr | Save the date! | 20:22 |
| kfarr | Denver, CO at the Denver Renaissance Stapleton Hotel this September 11th-15th | 20:22 |
| alee | good to know .. | 20:22 |
| kfarr | Next up is review requests | 20:23 |
| kfarr | #topic review requests | 20:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review requests (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:23 | |
| kfarr | Any requests ? | 20:23 |
| kfarr | I have this one to add client list filtering to python-barbicanclient, but it needs rebasing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400370/ | 20:25 |
| hockeynut | later on today https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453829/ will be ready for some scrutiny | 20:27 |
| kfarr | I'll keep an eye out for it! | 20:27 |
| kfarr | #topic any other business | 20:27 |
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| kfarr | Anybody have anything else? | 20:27 |
| rm_work | oh, I was curious who was going to the summit... though, maybe not many people here to answer today T_T | 20:28 |
| kfarr | I'll be there, and hopefully alee, redrobot, diazjf, and dave-mccowan since we're all presenting | 20:29 |
| kfarr | hockeynut will you be there? | 20:29 |
| rm_work | redrobot: will you be? | 20:29 |
| alee | I'll be there | 20:29 |
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| hockeynut | not unless RAX finds a boatload of money | 20:29 |
| rm_work | I heard RAX pulled funding even for speakers :/ | 20:30 |
| hockeynut | probably only managers going :-o | 20:30 |
| rm_work | If I go, I'll be running all of the Octavia stuff on my own, it seems... We had two talks and a lab, which is just about to become "one talk and no lab" >_> | 20:30 |
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| rm_work | So I was going to see if I could recruit a volunteer to help me with the lab (using Barbican! :P) | 20:31 |
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| rm_work | otherwise it is probably dead :/ | 20:31 |
| hockeynut | if you're paying, I'm volunteering :-) | 20:31 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:32 |
| rm_work | I can provide a beer after... | 20:32 |
| hockeynut | and a roast beef at Kelly | 20:32 |
| kfarr | This one? https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17583/hands-on-lab-octavia?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fboston-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Doctavia%23eventid%3D17583 | 20:32 |
| kfarr | whew that was a long link | 20:33 |
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| kfarr | mathiasb was there anything you wanted to talk about ? | 20:34 |
| rm_work | yeah that is it | 20:37 |
| redrobot | o/ | 20:37 |
| kfarr | redrobot !! \o/ | 20:37 |
| redrobot | sorry guys, missed my meeting alarm. >_> | 20:37 |
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| rm_work | though honestly even one volunteer might not be enough, especially given my schedule and that I was planning to be assisting, not running the thing :P | 20:38 |
| rm_work | but I'm going to keep looking :) | 20:38 |
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| * redrobot catches up on meeting | 20:40 | |
| redrobot | I _think_ I'm going to be there. | 20:40 |
| redrobot | still working out logistics w/ wife | 20:40 |
| rm_work | redrobot: you blackmail the right people? | 20:40 |
| redrobot | rm_work self funding :( | 20:40 |
| rm_work | :( | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | but it'll be worth it to see all your beautiful faces! :D | 20:41 |
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| redrobot | plane tickets are surprisingly cheap | 20:41 |
| rm_work | I still have to book | 20:42 |
| rm_work | was on the fence about going even with it expensed :/ | 20:42 |
| redrobot | I would love more reviews on the SSSS backend spec | 20:42 |
| mathiasb | kfarr: not really, just checking what's going on | 20:42 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431228/ | 20:42 |
| redrobot | also good to have hockeynut back! \o/ | 20:43 |
| redrobot | and we have another Steve from Intel joining the team as well | 20:43 |
| hockeynut | tyvm rr! | 20:43 |
| kfarr | redrobot nice! I'll make sure to take a look | 20:43 |
| redrobot | not sure what the other Steve's handle is though. | 20:43 |
| kfarr | redrobot is there anything you want to talk about before the meeting is over? | 20:44 |
| redrobot | kfarr I can't think of anything off the top of my head | 20:45 |
| kfarr | Ok! Let's call it a wrap then, and give everyone 15 minutes back | 20:45 |
| kfarr | Thanks for coming! | 20:45 |
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| kfarr | #endmeeting | 20:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 10 20:46:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-04-10-20.00.html | 20:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-04-10-20.00.txt | 20:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-04-10-20.00.log.html | 20:46 |
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| leong | #startmeeting product_working_group | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 10 21:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is leong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: product_working_group)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 21:00 |
| leong | #chair shamail | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: leong shamail | 21:00 |
| leong | hi all... | 21:00 |
| leong | #topic rollcall | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: product_working_group)" | 21:00 | |
| shamail | Hi | 21:00 |
| AndyU | o/ | 21:01 |
| leong | hi, this is product wg weekly meeting | 21:01 |
| leong | rollcall... | 21:01 |
| AndyU | hi again | 21:02 |
| leong | #link Meeting Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 21:02 |
| leong | the agenda can be found at the above link | 21:02 |
| leong | before getting started, wanted to make sure we have enough quorum... | 21:02 |
| shamail | Let's wait a few minutes | 21:03 |
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| leong | shamail:+1 looks like we have only three so far | 21:03 |
| shamail | Any additional people here for PWG? | 21:05 |
| leong | Arkady and Megan will miss today's call... | 21:06 |
| shamail | Leong: it doesn't feel like quorum yet | 21:06 |
| leong | some places in US seems having spring break... | 21:06 |
| shamail | Yeah | 21:06 |
| leong | shall we call off today meeting ? or wait for another few minutes till xx:07 pm | 21:07 |
| leong | xx:10pm i mean | 21:07 |
| shamail | Wait until ;07 then cancel is my vote | 21:08 |
| leong | let's give another two minutes, which will be 10 minutes pass the hour | 21:08 |
| shamail | The main topics were Boston planning which require the team and we can't vote without quorum | 21:08 |
| leong | shamail: +1 | 21:09 |
| AndyU | as long as we're here... Arkady - Leong and I tried to upload the graphic. My account just didn't work. So I emailed it to Leong and he posted it. | 21:09 |
| leong | AndyU? u mean to refer Arkady -> Shamail? | 21:10 |
| shamail | Nice! Are you going to try creating a new account? | 21:10 |
| AndyU | ack... I thought Arkady was here | 21:11 |
| leong | ok.. let's call off today meeting due to not enough quorum.. | 21:11 |
| AndyU | ok | 21:11 |
| shamail | leong: +1 | 21:11 |
| leong | #info Today meeting is cancelled due to not enough quorum. Meeting will be postponed next week. | 21:11 |
| shamail | Take care! | 21:11 |
| leong | #endmeeting | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:12 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 10 21:12:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:12 |
| AndyU | I'm afraid to create a new account until after the summit... worried it will affect my account as a speaker?? | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-04-10-21.00.html | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-04-10-21.00.txt | 21:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-04-10-21.00.log.html | 21:12 |
| shamail | AndyU: good call, better safe | 21:12 |
| AndyU | yep | 21:12 |
| shamail | No rush anyway at this point | 21:12 |
| shamail | Cya | 21:13 |
| leong | AndyU, do you have anything specific to address or need help from me? | 21:13 |
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| AndyU | no, not right now. We can catch up later as planned. | 21:13 |
| AndyU | cya later | 21:14 |
| leong | sure..take care | 21:14 |
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