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| masahito | hi all | 09:00 |
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| priteau | Hi | 09:00 |
| r-mibu | hi | 09:00 |
| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 11 09:00:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:01 |
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| masahito | #chair priteau r-mibu | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: masahito priteau r-mibu | 09:01 |
| masahito | #topic Roll Call | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| priteau | o/ | 09:01 |
| masahito | o/ | 09:01 |
| r-mibu | o/ | 09:01 |
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| masahito | Today's agenda is... | 09:02 |
| masahito | 1. ocata/branch | 09:02 |
| masahito | 2. boston summit talks | 09:02 |
| masahito | 3. Pike bp status check | 09:03 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:03 |
| GeraldK | hi there | 09:03 |
| masahito | GeraldK: hi | 09:03 |
| priteau | masahito: forum? | 09:03 |
| masahito | priteau: yes. thanks! | 09:04 |
| masahito | 4. forum | 09:04 |
| masahito | btw, hiro-kobayashi is out of town today. | 09:04 |
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| masahito | #topic ocata branch | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ocata branch (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:05 | |
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| masahito | Just notification from my side. | 09:05 |
| masahito | Gerrit is ready to create branch. then I created stable/ocata branch last week. | 09:06 |
| masahito | #link https://github.com/openstack/blazar/tree/stable/ocata | 09:06 |
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| masahito | if there is any fix needed to backport, we can do it. | 09:06 |
| masahito | any comment? | 09:07 |
| r-mibu | fyi: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 09:07 |
| priteau | Do we have stable branches for blazar-nova and clients too? | 09:07 |
| masahito | as we discuss before, we don't plant to have branches at client side. | 09:08 |
| masahito | blazar-nova needs branch? | 09:08 |
| priteau | Even if we don't backport patches, I think users may want to install blazar with devstack configured to use stable/ocata | 09:09 |
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| priteau | If there is no branch, it uses master, but if we make radical changes to master in the future, devstack install of stable/ocata won't work | 09:09 |
| priteau | I am thinking in particular of blazar-nova | 09:09 |
| r-mibu | +1 to have stable branch for blazar-nova | 09:09 |
| masahito | we have release tag instead of branch now. | 09:10 |
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| masahito | ok, I'll create stable branch for blazar-nova. | 09:10 |
| masahito | then, let's go on next. | 09:11 |
| masahito | #topic Boston Summit Talks | 09:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Boston Summit Talks (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:11 | |
| masahito | Who added the topic in agenda? | 09:11 |
| priteau | I suggested last week that we should talk about it today | 09:12 |
| priteau | It was +1 by several people | 09:12 |
| GeraldK | we had an offline meeting related to the Promise/Blazar session preparation. | 09:13 |
| GeraldK | presentation will cover a) problem statement, b) intro to Blazar and OPNFV Promise, c) Resolutions | 09:13 |
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| masahito | GeraldK: thanks for update. | 09:14 |
| masahito | Do you need any help from this team? | 09:14 |
| GeraldK | masahito: we are still in drafting phase. maybe, we will share slides prior to submission for team feedback | 09:15 |
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| masahito | GeraldK: got it. | 09:16 |
| masahito | For project update session, I plan to start preparing this week. | 09:16 |
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| masahito | The speakers of this talk are priteau, hiro-kobayashi and me. So I plan to have following three sections. | 09:17 |
| priteau | masahito: What do you plan to use? Google Slides is very convenient for collaborating on a presentation | 09:17 |
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| masahito | a) overview and current activities of Blazar, b) Ocata release and c) Pike release priorities | 09:18 |
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| masahito | priteau: either Google Slides or PowerPoint sharing mail is ok for me. | 09:19 |
| masahito | priteau: do you have any preference? | 09:19 |
| priteau | I prefer Google to avoid a lot of back and forth by email | 09:20 |
| masahito | priteau: got it. | 09:20 |
| masahito | priteau: I think it's better to make outline before writing Google Slide. is it ok to discuss the outline at mail? | 09:21 |
| priteau | yes, outline by email or by etherpad | 09:21 |
| masahito | I'll send you the mail or etherpad page later. | 09:22 |
| priteau | thanks | 09:22 |
| masahito | we also have a forum session in Boston summit. | 09:23 |
| masahito | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/124 | 09:23 |
| masahito | In this session, we would discuss the requirements from scientific WG. but as tom commented we could discuss "reservation" feature itself here. | 09:25 |
| priteau | Do you know how long the session last? | 09:25 |
| masahito | maybe 40 mins | 09:25 |
| priteau | We won't have much time to discuss Blazar | 09:26 |
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| masahito | yes. | 09:26 |
| masahito | So I'm thinking we should organize some meeting about Blazar itself in another time slots. | 09:27 |
| GeraldK | +1 to have a Blazar team meeting | 09:27 |
| r-mibu | +1 | 09:28 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:28 |
| masahito | I'll send a doodle to manage the time slot next week or later. | 09:28 |
| masahito | after forum session time slots are fixed. | 09:29 |
| priteau | I better finish planning my Boston schedule then | 09:29 |
| masahito | ok. | 09:31 |
| masahito | any comments? | 09:31 |
| masahito | #topic Pike BP status | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike BP status (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:32 | |
| masahito | does anyone have update? | 09:33 |
| masahito | I'll start first. | 09:34 |
| masahito | I wrote up overview of new instance reservation. | 09:34 |
| masahito | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/new-instance-reservation | 09:34 |
| masahito | and shared it in openstack-dev ML | 09:35 |
| masahito | the details of implementation is still drafting, but please review the overview. | 09:35 |
| priteau | Thanks masahito | 09:36 |
| masahito | To be clarified why we need "reservation", I focused on motivation/problems. | 09:37 |
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| masahito | because there are some discussion about "reserving instances" in operators ML | 09:37 |
| GeraldK | thanks. that is very useful. | 09:38 |
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| masahito | any other updates? | 09:39 |
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| masahito | #topic AOB | 09:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:40 | |
| priteau | Still catching up with reviews for me. Work is very busy at the moment | 09:40 |
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| masahito | priteau: np. | 09:42 |
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| masahito | if there're patches you want to review, please add comments about it. we can keep it in review. | 09:43 |
| priteau | ok | 09:44 |
| GeraldK | masahito: I agree with your statement in one of the changes that as we have a small team, we can have more high level BP specs and do not necessarily need to deep-dive into implementation details yet | 09:44 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:45 |
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| masahito | in that case, I think the spec is ready to merge now. | 09:47 |
| masahito | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451249/ | 09:47 |
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| masahito | please add +1 if you agree specs or don't disagree specs. because it's very useful for other to check different opinions. | 09:49 |
| priteau | I was just reading it this morning, I will try to go over it by the end of the day | 09:49 |
| masahito | priteau: Thanks!! | 09:49 |
| masahito | I'll chenge its review state | 09:49 |
| masahito | if no other items we can finish this meeting earlier today. | 09:51 |
| priteau | ok | 09:52 |
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| GeraldK | okay. thanks and bye. | 09:52 |
| masahito | then thanks all! | 09:52 |
| priteau | bye all | 09:52 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 09:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 11 09:52:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:52 |
| r-mibu | bye | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-04-11-09.00.html | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-04-11-09.00.txt | 09:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-04-11-09.00.log.html | 09:52 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 11 14:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hey all, who's around? | 14:00 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | hello tripleo o/ | 14:00 |
| jrist | o/ o/ | 14:00 |
| owalsh | o/ | 14:00 |
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| bogdando | o/ | 14:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:00 |
| mandre | \o/ | 14:01 |
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| d0ugal | o/ | 14:01 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:01 |
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| akrivoka | \o | 14:01 |
| [1]cdearborn | o/ | 14:01 |
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| shardy | Ok then - EmilienM is out today so I'll run the meeting, feel free to shout if I forget anything ;) | 14:01 |
| dprince | hi | 14:01 |
| florianf | o/ | 14:01 |
| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| shardy | * review past action items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:02 | |
| shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
| weshay | o/ | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Week roadmap | 14:02 |
| shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
| shardy | #topic review past action items | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review past action items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:02 | |
| shardy | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-04-04-14.00.html | 14:02 |
| shardy | EmilienM to postpone pike-1 Triaged bugs to pike-2 milestone this week | 14:02 |
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| shardy | Thats done https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-1 | 14:03 |
| shardy | pike 1 released, nice work folks, thats the first milestone done :) | 14:03 |
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| shardy | 8 blueprints & 149 bugs | 14:03 |
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| shardy | dprince moves introspection from non-ha to ovb-containers and remove nonha job starting from pike (and keep it for stable/ocata and stable/newton) | 14:03 |
| shardy | dprince: Hey that's in progress right? | 14:04 |
| * jrist claps | 14:04 | |
| dprince | shardy: yes. I gave priority to getting the mirrors in place to stablize our job times (hopefully) | 14:04 |
| dprince | shardy: once that plays out I'll push the infra/project-config patch to make the switch | 14:04 |
| shardy | dprince: Ok cool, shall we add an action to discuss again next week? | 14:04 |
| dprince | shardy: sure, I really do hope it gets done in the next day or two as its been almost 2 weeks now without a containers overcloud job | 14:05 |
| shardy | #action dprince follow up re switch of OVB jobs to provide container coverage after mirrors are in place | 14:05 |
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| shardy | dprince: yeah agreed, it'd be great to see that running again | 14:05 |
| shardy | jistr / shardy / weshay / EmilienM to synchronize about the work prioritization on container / multinode CI work | 14:05 |
| shardy | So I think jistr panda|pto and matbu have been working on this | 14:06 |
| shardy | mattbu and jistr have upgrade quickstart patches which look pretty close | 14:06 |
| * jistr nods | 14:06 | |
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| shardy | panda|pto isn't around I assume, anyone else have an update of the status of multinode non-upgrade container patches? | 14:06 |
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| shardy | If not I'll defer the action and we can keep tracking it outside of the meeting | 14:07 |
| shardy | #action jistr/matbu/panda/weshay/shardy/Emilien work together to move multinode w/containers CI forward | 14:08 |
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| shardy | Ok, anyone have anything else from last week to discuss? | 14:08 |
| shardy | #topic one off agenda items | 14:08 |
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| shardy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:08 |
| shardy | bogdando: hi! | 14:09 |
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| bogdando | shardy: hi | 14:09 |
| shardy | bogdando: is there specific discussion required re your items, or was it just to raise visibility of those topics? | 14:09 |
| bogdando | to raise visibility and ask for discussion | 14:09 |
| shardy | #action all to review http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115182.html and respond | 14:10 |
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| trown | o/ | 14:10 |
| shardy | dprince, jistr do you have anything specific to add now re the hostpath thread? | 14:10 |
| bogdando | the main point is to come up with a consolidated approach for code review | 14:11 |
| jistr | i replied to the list, don't have anything more to add than what's there ATM | 14:11 |
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| bogdando | and agree on best practices whenever to use kolla_config command/extend start/bootstrap/permissions or not to do so | 14:12 |
| shardy | Ok sounds like we can take it to the ML, thanks for raising it bogdando | 14:12 |
| bogdando | and set in stone or the like | 14:12 |
| dprince | bogdando: I think we want to use kolla_start for now | 14:12 |
| dprince | bogdando: for the most part, but not kolla_config | 14:12 |
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| bogdando | dprince: command is a part of the kolla_config | 14:12 |
| dprince | bogdando: well we still use kolla_config | 14:12 |
| bogdando | permissions as well | 14:12 |
| dprince | bogdando: and permissions | 14:12 |
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| bogdando | so it looks complicated for ppl writing patches AND doing reviews | 14:13 |
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| dprince | bogdando: lets put it this way. We just want to avoid using kolla_config to map in our service config files. | 14:13 |
| bogdando | let's help each other ;) | 14:13 |
| dprince | bogdando: we'd rather just do the bind mounts | 14:13 |
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| bogdando | yeah, that is the most clear part of the thing | 14:13 |
| dprince | bogdando: and moutn in our config files like that. Fwiw we are taking a simpler approach in doing this | 14:13 |
| bogdando | but there are more... | 14:13 |
| bogdando | I've rised all that came to my mind in the mail thread, feel free to add and suggest alts | 14:14 |
| dprince | bogdando: using kolla_config to map in config files was actually causing extra maintenance (and bugs even) | 14:14 |
| jistr | yea, like what entrypoints to use for what actions ("normal" container start, one-time init actions, etc.) and where do those entrypoints live | 14:14 |
| dprince | jistr: the entrypoints we use today live in t-h-t for us | 14:15 |
| bogdando | next step after a review policy, could be to unify that we already have | 14:15 |
| jistr | well not if we use kolla_start | 14:15 |
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| jistr | as those live in Kolla repos | 14:15 |
| * jistr made some points on the ML about that | 14:16 | |
| dprince | jistr: we specify our own commands though | 14:16 |
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| bogdando | and basically I'm blocked with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442603/ because of that | 14:16 |
| dprince | jistr: it is a mix, yes | 14:16 |
| bogdando | no approach to apply for all cases | 14:16 |
| dprince | jistr: but there are some features there we rely on for now too | 14:16 |
| jistr | right, we mix the approaches in many places. our entrypoints vs. kolla ones | 14:16 |
| jistr | that's what bogdando is raising i belive, as he was -1'd for not using kolla entrypoint | 14:17 |
| dprince | bogdando: so the logs patch is what you are after? | 14:17 |
| jistr | and it seems opinions about this somewhat differ among reviewers | 14:17 |
| jistr | etcd patch i think... | 14:17 |
| bogdando | what is not a big deal, the more issues bring doing code review of new process | 14:17 |
| bogdando | patches* | 14:17 |
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| bogdando | that is* | 14:17 |
| jistr | i'd suggest that we read the ML and either discuss on #tripleo or on the ML | 14:18 |
| bogdando | that's all from my side wrt that topic, thank you for a hot discussion | 14:18 |
| shardy | Ok, thanks bogdando, lets see if we can reach consensus on the ML | 14:18 |
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| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:19 | |
| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/?orderby=-id&start=0 | 14:19 |
| shardy | https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-2 | 14:19 |
| shardy | 325 bugs targetted wow | 14:20 |
| shardy | Does anyone have specific bugs to raise this week? | 14:20 |
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| marios | shardy: nothing urgent but since is quiet may as well mention 1680006 | 14:21 |
| shardy | I wanted to remind everyone, please when you raise a bug, self-triage it and set the milestont to pike-2 or pike-3 | 14:21 |
| marios | shardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1680006 came up last week end of week but just moved it to fix released | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1680006 in tripleo "Check for legacy hiera data fails preventing the upgrade from proceeding" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b) | 14:21 |
| shardy | also, if you set a bug wontfix or invalid, please remove the milestone | 14:21 |
| shardy | the milestone is for tracking work we expect to do | 14:21 |
| shardy | marios: Yeah, there is something weird happening there, as we still trip the legacy hieradata check even with the element removed | 14:22 |
| shardy | but only on update or upgrade | 14:22 |
| shardy | I've not had time to reproduce it locally, but any help figuring that out would be good | 14:22 |
| marios | shardy: ack yes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1680996 | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1680996 in tripleo "ocata ovb jobs fail with CREATE_FAILED Error: resources.NovaComputeDeployment" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 14:22 |
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| shardy | I have been doing a bunch of stack updates locally which work, so we need to find out why the updates job triggered the issue | 14:24 |
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| shardy | marios: Ok lets follow up with anyone interested after the meeting | 14:24 |
| shardy | Any more bugs to mention before we continue? | 14:24 |
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| marios | ack thanks shardy | 14:24 |
| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:25 |
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| shardy | Ok so pike-1 was released | 14:25 |
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| shardy | I assume we'll want at least an ocata release as we've been backporting things, I'll sync with EmilienM about that | 14:25 |
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| shardy | Does anyone have anything else to raise re releases, high priority backports which need review, or any questions? | 14:26 |
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| shardy | #topic CI | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:27 | |
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| shardy | http://tripleo.org/cistatus.html | 14:27 |
| shardy | marios: I'm a little confused re why patches to tripleo-ci pass the upgrades job | 14:28 |
| shardy | I guess we can dig into that after the meeting | 14:28 |
| marios | shardy: ack | 14:29 |
| shardy | So one thing, I posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455379/ because it seems Depends-On to heat-agents didn't work | 14:29 |
| shardy | I'm not certain if that's all we need for the delorean build to pick up the depends-on version | 14:29 |
| shardy | but getting that working would be useful I think | 14:29 |
| marios | shardy: i thought it was ocata only for the 'hiera check' (but we did see it on master too so..) | 14:29 |
| shardy | marios: yeah I've seen the same error in ocata upgrades and master updates jobs | 14:30 |
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| shardy | Seems we have a plan re the container CI, is there anything else to raise? | 14:30 |
| shardy | Do we need any update from pabelanger re the mirroring, or is that all ready to use now? | 14:31 |
| pabelanger | should be ready to use | 14:31 |
| pabelanger | please CC' me on patches, so I can monitor apache logs to confirm | 14:31 |
| shardy | pabelanger: great, thanks for getting that working :) | 14:31 |
| pabelanger | np, happy to do it | 14:32 |
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| weshay | woot | 14:32 |
| shardy | Ok, anything else re CI? | 14:32 |
| shardy | #topic Specs | 14:33 |
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| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tripleo-specs | 14:33 |
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| shardy | There's a number of specs needing review, any help appreciated | 14:34 |
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| shardy | seems many have +2 so I'll see what we can land later today | 14:34 |
| shardy | Anyone have comments/questions re specs? | 14:35 |
| shardy | There was some ML discussion and I think we agreed to try to keep specs fairly lightweight | 14:35 |
| shardy | I feel like in some cases things get bogged down in a lot of detail, we can often do that detail better during code-review | 14:36 |
| shardy | e.g implementation detail vs interfaces and general direction | 14:36 |
| shardy | Does anyone know what "Week Roadmap" is on the agenda? | 14:36 |
| jrist | +1 to details in code review | 14:36 |
| jrist | shardy: I think that's plans for the week for the team | 14:37 |
| shardy | #topic Week Roadmap | 14:37 |
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| shardy | So, maybe everyone can give a one-liner of what they'll be working on primarily this week? | 14:37 |
| * shardy containerized deployment support of minor updates, probably via heat+ansible | 14:38 | |
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| * marios any outstanding n..o bugs (like bug/1680006 or bug/1680006) then catching up on the containers upgrade/update efforts with jistr & shardy (rest of upgrades team will be joining along) | 14:39 | |
| * trown reviewing quickstart containers and OVB transition patches and helping OPNFV folks with quickstart | 14:40 | |
| shardy | Ok, I'm not sure how EmilienM normally does this so we can move on if folks aren't keen to share :) | 14:40 |
| shardy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:40 |
| trown | I think that is new | 14:40 |
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| trown | I have never done that in this meeting | 14:40 |
| * matbu almost the same as marios + review and checkout the work on upgrade containers CI from jistr | 14:40 | |
| * jistr container upgrades CI, plus tangential optimization in OOOQ | 14:40 | |
| marios | shardy: +1 effort to try something new /at least makes people think about it | 14:40 |
| trown | tricky EmilienM putting something new in the mix when he is on PTO | 14:40 |
| shardy | trown: hehe, yeah I didn't remember it so made a guess how the topic should be handled :) | 14:40 |
| beagles | beagles: clewing up octavia post-deploy steps and switching focus to containerization (fwiw) | 14:41 |
| * slagle trying to wrap up a few minor split-stack bugs | 14:42 | |
| slagle | oh, and if anyone wants to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452223/ :) | 14:43 |
| slagle | i'd like to land that soon'ish if there are no major objections | 14:43 |
| slagle | it's a highly requested feature/bugfix by operators | 14:43 |
| matbu | shardy: yep +1 maybe something to keep for the next mtg | 14:43 |
| * adarazs will try to make a "landing page" for the quickstart logs to make it easier to find your way around them and debug when the job is run with OOOQ. | 14:43 | |
| shardy | slagle: It'd be good to chat about split stack in the context of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454816/ at some point | 14:43 |
| shardy | slagle: one option here is to build an ansible playbook and make it a stack output or write to swift | 14:43 |
| shardy | vs running it via heat (which could still be a default mode) | 14:44 |
| slagle | shardy: ok; so in that case, heat would be used to effectively generate an ansible playbook? | 14:44 |
| shardy | slagle: Yeah it's one option I've been thinking about | 14:44 |
| slagle | which is then executed via other means | 14:44 |
| shardy | but we could stop before running it, and e.g run it via mistral or whatever | 14:45 |
| slagle | ok, i'll have a closer look | 14:45 |
| shardy | that would solve another operator concern, e.g lack of control/visibility when running traditional config management via heat | 14:45 |
| matbu | shardy: slagle maybe im out of context but i have already made a WIP patch for that (dump ansible playbook from heat) | 14:45 |
| shardy | slagle: ack, thanks - I'm just at the polling for ideas stage and some prototyping, any thoughts appreciated | 14:45 |
| slagle | matbu: link us? | 14:46 |
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| matbu | slagle: yep secs | 14:46 |
| matbu | slagle: shardy https://review.openstack.org/444224 | 14:46 |
| shardy | matbu: Yeah it's something we could already do for upgrade tasks, but we need to fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1421440 first (sorry I've not yet raised a LP bug) | 14:46 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1421440 in openstack-tripleo-validations "tripleo-ansible-inventory does not report ceph" [High,New] - Assigned to flfuchs | 14:46 |
| matbu | its in a wip state | 14:47 |
| shardy | otherwise we can't run against anything except controller/compute | 14:47 |
| shardy | I think flaper87 might take a look at that | 14:47 |
| shardy | unless florianf is already on it | 14:47 |
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| florianf | shadower, matbu So this is basically something that will solve itself once the inventory is ready for composable roles. | 14:48 |
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| shardy | matbu: cool - yeah IMO we shouldn't special case this in tripleoclient, but in general it's something we can look at | 14:48 |
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| florianf | And I have a WIP patch for that | 14:48 |
| shardy | florianf: cool, can you link please as I'd like to test/review? | 14:49 |
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| matbu | shardy: ack any feedback would be nice, i wanted to rework on that in the next days | 14:49 |
| shardy | I think we basically just need to iterate over the role names from roles_data in the plan? | 14:49 |
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| florianf | shardy: it's not really ready to test, but it's here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450233/ | 14:49 |
| shardy | matbu: there's a heat swift resource, it might be cleaner to just write to swift from heat | 14:49 |
| shardy | matbu: or expose some config outputs | 14:49 |
| shardy | matbu: I'll comment on the review | 14:50 |
| matbu | shardy: yep thank you | 14:50 |
| florianf | shardy: So the idea is to let the inventory expose hosts both by role and by service | 14:50 |
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| shardy | florianf: ack, nice - perhaps you can rebase that & we can iterate on some reviews? | 14:51 |
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| florianf | shardy: sure, will do | 14:51 |
| shardy | florianf: related to my ansible ideas above we kinda need this fixed | 14:51 |
| shardy | florianf: thanks! | 14:51 |
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| shardy | Ok, anyone have anything else to raise | 14:52 |
| florianf | shardy: right, I can continue with it tomorrow. Shouldn't take long to finish | 14:52 |
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| shardy | Ok then if there's nothing else lets endmeeting, thanks everyone! | 14:54 |
| shardy | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 11 14:54:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-04-11-14.00.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-04-11-14.00.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-04-11-14.00.log.html | 14:54 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 11 15:02:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:03 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi pcarver! | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | I don't know who else might join this week | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | hi doude, timirnich, around for bgpvpn irc weekly meeting perhaps ? | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | pcarver, it seems its only the two of us | 15:07 |
| pcarver | looks like it | 15:07 |
| tmorin | I think matrohon is off this week | 15:07 |
| pcarver | I pushed a new PS for the API def but we need someone else to review | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | yep, I'll ask matrohon to have a look (next week I guess) | 15:08 |
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| pcarver | If we don't have any other topics, I'd like to talk about multiple backend support | 15:09 |
| tmorin | good topic | 15:09 |
| pcarver | I had some discussions around Gluon/Proton last week and have been doing compare/contrast with the existing Neutron stadium projects | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | and I have another one worth discussing together I think: how to push people working on SDN controller to review the blueprint we have in the pipe... | 15:10 |
| pcarver | One of the design criteria of Gluon/Proton is simultaneous support of multiple interoperable backends | 15:10 |
| pcarver | e.g. for migration/upgrade scenarios or possibly other reasons | 15:10 |
| tmorin | pcarver: yes, we are also concerned about what can help migrate from one solution to another | 15:11 |
| pcarver | ML2 definitely supports hierarchical port binding, but I'm not sure how much other cases of multiple simultaneous controllers have been thought about | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: even without the "hierarchy" part, ML2 supports having multiple driver active at the same time | 15:12 |
| tmorin | I'm, like you, unsure if there are other places | 15:12 |
| tmorin | we have a blueprint to track this in BGPVPN | 15:12 |
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| pcarver | The Gluon demo from last year's OPNFV involved the multiple controllers peering with each other via BGP so that VMs could be created on the same network despite being managed by different controllers | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+spec/allow-multiple-drivers | 15:13 |
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| pcarver | Ok, that's good. Looking at it now. | 15:13 |
| tmorin | I'm not sure it is the right starting point TBH | 15:14 |
| pcarver | Gluon has had some architectural revision. At first, the idea was that the port would be used to look up *the* SDN controller. | 15:14 |
| pcarver | But that doesn't support the equivalent of HPB | 15:14 |
| tmorin | ah, we in fact have a bug for multiple driver support: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1485515 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1485515 in networking-bgpvpn "multiple service drivers can't coexist" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:15 |
| pcarver | As I understand it, that has changed in the more recent architecture | 15:15 |
| tmorin | this bug possibly ain't not related to what you have in mind either | 15:16 |
| pcarver | I'm reading it now | 15:16 |
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| bobmel | hi tmorin, pcarver: Sorry for my absense for a few meetings | 15:17 |
| pcarver | If Contrail specifically proves challenging, we might look at running two ODLs side by side (perhaps different versions to simulate an upgrade scenario?) and look at what challenges that might have. | 15:17 |
| tmorin | hi bobmel | 15:17 |
| tmorin | np, you're welcome | 15:17 |
| bobmel | I see you disucss multiple backend drivers | 15:17 |
| tmorin | yep | 15:18 |
| tmorin | pcarver: for BGPVPN, what about using the following very simple idead as a starting point: | 15:18 |
| tmorin | having the bgppvn service framework allow multiple simultaneously active driver, and passing all information from API calls to all of them | 15:19 |
| pcarver | Yes, I think that's basically what ML2 does. | 15:19 |
| tmorin | each backend would then take care of the processing for the related Neutron ports which are under its control | 15:20 |
| pcarver | Call all drivers and let the drivers determine if they can/should handle the event | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: well, not exactly, ML2 loops on all drivers, and one (only one) of them will be the binding driver | 15:20 |
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| pcarver | Are you sure about that? In the HPB case I'm pretty sure it can be multiple. | 15:21 |
| pcarver | There was a demo at the Vancouver summit by folks from Cumulus and I discussed the demo with Sukdev Kapur who told me that Arista had implmented the same thing. | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | yes, but I'm trying to see if for BGPVPN, if just 'calling all drivers' without the "determine if they can/should handle the event" | 15:22 |
| pcarver | If I remember correctly it was for VLAN | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | yes, sorry, with HPB probably multiple | 15:22 |
| pcarver | For certain BGPVPN events we would want to call multiple. | 15:23 |
| tmorin | but without hierarchy only one I think | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | in fact, I don't see for which call we would *not* want to call all the drivers | 15:23 |
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| pcarver | Yes, actually I was just thinking that | 15:23 |
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| bobmel | For ml2 HPB, I think the binding continues until on of the driver signals that the binding is complete | 15:24 |
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| tmorin | bobmel: ok | 15:25 |
| tmorin | I think we can start a proposal aroung the simple "always-call-all-driver" scheme | 15:26 |
| bobmel | So for example the ToR driver can do it is part of the binding, then the vswitch on the host etc | 15:26 |
| pcarver | An example use case would be creating a network that spans across multiple SDN controllers, using the route target to let the controllers know to exchange routes. Then ports bound to one controller could reach ports bound to a different controller. | 15:26 |
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| pcarver | This would be similar to the Gluon demo from last year. | 15:27 |
| tmorin | bobmel: to handle transitioning or upgrade, for BGPVPN, I don't think we will need this kind of complex cooperation between driver | 15:27 |
| pcarver | They established BGP peering between multiple controllers. That allowed VMs handled by one controller to reach VMs handled by a different controller. | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: yes, this can already be achieved between 2-Openstacks with one L2 BGPVPN, we would just allow this to happen without requiring having a different Openstack for each SDN controller | 15:29 |
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| tmorin | the part that we still do not cover with this, but this is not specific to BGPVPN (and it's perhaps fair to keep it out of scope) is: how can the newly added controller know about things that were created/done before its driver was added | 15:31 |
| pcarver | That's a good question | 15:31 |
| tmorin | and I still don't have the whole picture / I'm not sure we can do something meaningful in BGPVPN alone without knowing what will happen for ports, networks and routers | 15:32 |
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| pcarver | Yes, I was thinking that as well. | 15:32 |
| tmorin | we can make the assumption that ML2 is used (although we have to exclude Contrail...) | 15:33 |
| pcarver | With HPB I would think ports may be at least somewhat covered, but networks and routers might need attention | 15:33 |
| pcarver | There's an ML2 driver for Contrail, although not endorsed by Juniper | 15:33 |
| tmorin | ok, could be an option | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | so we would have: on a given Neutron network, new ports gets created on new backend (whatever is given priority by ML2 framework), they don't have connectivity to the ports that were created before via this backend base L2 functionaly, but if this network is associated to BGPVPN type l2, then both the new and the old backend will do whatever is needed and the 'new' ports will get connectivity to the 'old' ones | 15:38 |
| tmorin | is this the kind of idea you had pcarver ? | 15:38 |
| pcarver | tmorin: maybe. I may need to think about this more. | 15:39 |
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| pcarver | I hadn't thought too carefully about the time aspect. | 15:40 |
| pcarver | With backends being added or removed to a longer lived Neutron. | 15:40 |
| pcarver | I'll discuss this with the Gluon team as well to see if anyone has thought about how that would work. | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | another possible thing would be to see if HPB would make sense: at the top of the hierarchy we would have a bgpvpn mech_driver talking with the bgpvpn service plugin, allocating an l2 bgpvpn for a network (new bgpvpnl2 type driver), and down the hierarchy, the ML2 drivers of each backend would do the rest of the work to connect the l2 bgpvpn to whatever they use internally to manage L2 ... that's probably harder to achi | 15:43 |
| tmorin | eve than what it sounds ... | 15:43 |
| tmorin | to add a backend, you possibly need to replay old information to it, or have it sync back to neutron | 15:43 |
| tmorin | to remove one, this is easier, you simply need to make sure first that its not handling any port anymore | 15:44 |
| tmorin | what I would tend to conclude from this discussion: we can add to n8g-bgpvpn an ability to support multiple dirver simultaneously with an "always-call-all-drivers" behavior ; it seems it may help find interesting transition scenariis, but we aren't totally sure | 15:45 |
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| pcarver | I agree. That's a good place to start and see what works and what doesn't. | 15:46 |
| tmorin | the behavior is not too complex to implement, except one thing: error handling (what to do when one driver raises an error and the others do not ?) | 15:47 |
| pcarver | I see potential convergence between Gluon and Neutron but we need to explore the boundaries to see if there are places that are clearly distinct. | 15:47 |
| tmorin | but we could still start with something simple like: fail if any of the driver fail | 15:47 |
| tmorin | *fail_s_* | 15:47 |
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| tmorin | ok | 15:48 |
| tmorin | let's keep the ideas flowing and revisit the topic soonish | 15:48 |
| pcarver | tmorin: Error handling is something that HPB and Gluon/Proton have to handle too, so I'll explore what the current status is. | 15:48 |
| tmorin | pcarver: yes, good idea | 15:48 |
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| tmorin | the other thing I wanted to briefly discuss is: | 15:50 |
| tmorin | we need feedback/participation on the blueprint we have in the pipe for: port associations (think hub'n'spoke) and fine grained control of routing (static routes, local_pref and community control) | 15:51 |
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| tmorin | pcarver, bobmel: reviews welcome ! | 15:51 |
| tmorin | pcarver, bobmel: and if you can pass the word to people you know who are working on SDN controllers BGPVPN backend, that will help as well! | 15:52 |
| pcarver | tmorin: will do. Got kind of swamped, especially with going to ONS last week, but trying to dig myself out. | 15:52 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:53 |
| tmorin | I understand | 15:53 |
| tmorin | I'm unlucky to be so far from the US I can't travel everywhere, but this gives time for other things as well :) | 15:54 |
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| pcarver | tmorin: I'm looking for the reviews | 15:54 |
| pcarver | Are they open on Gerrit? | 15:54 |
| tmorin | nope | 15:54 |
| tmorin | launchpad blueprints | 15:54 |
| pcarver | oh, ok. I'll take a look at Launchpad | 15:54 |
| tmorin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+spec/port-routes | 15:54 |
| tmorin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+spec/port-association | 15:55 |
| tmorin | this one is not cleanup yet | 15:55 |
| tmorin | the discuss on local_pref and communities control does not have its own blueprint, but https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_advanced_features has lots of things | 15:55 |
| tmorin | I need to sort all of this a little better | 15:56 |
| tmorin | ok... | 15:57 |
| tmorin | done for today ? | 15:57 |
| tmorin | thanks pcarver, bobmel... | 15:57 |
| tmorin | I'll be off next week, but you can still come, matrohon will possibly chair | 15:58 |
| pcarver | sounds good. bye. | 15:58 |
| tmorin | bye/// | 15:58 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 11 15:58:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-04-11-15.02.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-04-11-15.02.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-04-11-15.02.log.html | 15:58 |
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| strigazi | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 11 16:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| strigazi | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| Drago1 | o/ Hi strigazi! | 16:01 |
| tonanhngo | Ton Ngo | 16:01 |
| jasond | o/ | 16:01 |
| strigazi | hi Drago1 | 16:01 |
| coreyob | o/ | 16:01 |
| juggler | o/ | 16:02 |
| strigazi | Thanks for joining the meeting Drago1 tonanhngo jasond strigazi coreyob juggler | 16:02 |
| juggler | hello strigazi! | 16:02 |
| strigazi | hi juggler | 16:03 |
| strigazi | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| strigazi | None | 16:03 |
| strigazi | Team, do you have any? | 16:03 |
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| juggler | currently, none here | 16:04 |
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| strigazi | #topic Essential Blueprints Review | 16:04 |
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| strigazi | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:05 |
| strigazi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395012/ | 16:05 |
| strigazi | No, wrong url | 16:05 |
| strigazi | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes this is ti | 16:05 |
| strigazi | please have look in the review, I'm a bit stuck in the update operation | 16:06 |
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| strigazi | Do you have any question about it? | 16:07 |
| tonanhngo | Which review do you mean? | 16:08 |
| juggler | stuck in what respect? | 16:08 |
| strigazi | I'm thinking in doing it in two steps like the contruct and expand now to move forward faster. | 16:08 |
| strigazi | This review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395012/ | 16:08 |
| strigazi | I can't get the update right since the API object is different than the rpc object | 16:09 |
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| tonanhngo | ok, will take a close look | 16:10 |
| juggler | thanks tonanhngo for assisting s | 16:11 |
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| strigazi | ok, I was thinking expanding the tables with all attributes in a patch and the reduce them again in a followup | 16:11 |
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| strigazi | We can follow it up later | 16:12 |
| strigazi | next is: | 16:12 |
| strigazi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nodegroups Drago1 | 16:13 |
| Drago1 | I don't have any update. Jaycen didn't send me any update either. | 16:13 |
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| strigazi | ok | 16:13 |
| strigazi | Finally is #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster | 16:13 |
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| strigazi | I did a prototype with node replacement but without finishing the first bp I can't move forward. | 16:15 |
| strigazi | doing rebuild is very fast. I'm aiming doing a demo before the summit | 16:16 |
| strigazi | That's it. | 16:16 |
| strigazi | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:17 |
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| strigazi | I have a serious one | 16:17 |
| strigazi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1680900 | 16:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1680900 in Magnum "Reduce size of software-configs in user-data" [High,New] | 16:17 |
| strigazi | Currently, we pass all our scripts in user-data | 16:18 |
| strigazi | that field in a mariadb or mysql is 64kb | 16:18 |
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| strigazi | we are near 63kb | 16:19 |
| Drago1 | We started using software deployments | 16:19 |
| Drago1 | In our downstream driver | 16:19 |
| strigazi | with the heat-agents? | 16:19 |
| Drago1 | yes | 16:20 |
| Drago1 | works well | 16:20 |
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| strigazi | ok, so if we need software deployments we need them as well. | 16:21 |
| strigazi | OS allows golang now, we can write them in golang :) | 16:22 |
| tonanhngo | Yay | 16:23 |
| strigazi | Drago1 You use a custom image I suppose? | 16:23 |
| randallburt | uh, those two things aren't quite related but yay | 16:23 |
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| Drago1 | Yes, we're using fedora cloud 24 | 16:23 |
| Drago1 | non-atomic, with the agents baked in | 16:23 |
| juggler | golang, excellent! | 16:23 |
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| Drago1 | randallburt: they're related in the sense that non-python docker images are way smaller | 16:24 |
| strigazi | I asked what is the status and the reply was feel free to contribute :) | 16:24 |
| randallburt | so you want to rewrite all the agents on top of including software deployments? | 16:24 |
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| strigazi | I would be nice, but it is a massive task. | 16:25 |
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| strigazi | Let's go to open discussion | 16:26 |
| strigazi | #topic Open Discussion | 16:26 |
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| Drago1 | Possibly naive, but to get what we want out of software deployments, is it that hard? I mean, could it be written in bash in the meantime? | 16:27 |
| Drago1 | randallburt: ^ | 16:27 |
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| strigazi | Team, is anyone using swarm-mode? I don't have time for the functional tests, I need some help | 16:28 |
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| Drago1 | (not signing up for it, by the way) | 16:28 |
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| randallburt | Drago1: but to get "what we want" out of software deployments we don't have to rewrite anything but our templates | 16:29 |
| randallburt | Drago1: so I don't see the point (at least at this stage) | 16:29 |
| randallburt | strigazi: sorry, but I don't know anyone using swarm atm | 16:30 |
| Drago1 | randallburt: If you're talking about running the agents in a container, pulling/loading is too slow in the gate | 16:30 |
| Drago1 | And we didn't really get anywhere with having the agents run on the host | 16:31 |
| randallburt | Drago1: which we asked to have solved with pre-loaded images in atomic | 16:31 |
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| jasond | Drago1: i thought we were going to try using the host OS's python installation | 16:31 |
| Drago1 | randallburt: Unless the images are actually already loaded in docker at boot time, loading is still too slow | 16:31 |
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| Drago1 | jasond: well we never figured out how to make that work | 16:31 |
| jasond | Drago1: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ptg-pike-upstream-linux-os | 16:32 |
| randallburt | Drago1 jasond well Adrian was going to play with it, I don't remember hearing how that went | 16:32 |
| Drago1 | Oh okay, so containerized, but just binding all the things into the container so we don't have to include python in the image | 16:33 |
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| strigazi | One more thing, have you tried cinder with k8s again? It works for us with k8s 1.5.2 | 16:35 |
| Drago1 | randallburt: ^ | 16:35 |
| strigazi | even dynamic claim works | 16:36 |
| strigazi | with patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445404/ | 16:36 |
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| Drago1 | We're on 1.5.4 and from what I remember randallburt saying, it didn't work for us, so we were going to test 1.6 | 16:37 |
| strigazi | and claim like: http://clouddocs.web.cern.ch/clouddocs/containers/tutorials/cinder.html | 16:37 |
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| strigazi | the above examples work with k8s 1.5.2 ^^ | 16:37 |
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| strigazi | I guess 1.5.4 as well | 16:38 |
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| Drago1 | I haven't personally done any testing so I can't say | 16:39 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:40 |
| randallburt | I haven't tried recently but will today | 16:40 |
| strigazi | randallburt be sure to use the same kubectl client version | 16:40 |
| strigazi | server 1.5 and client 1.6 won't work | 16:41 |
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| randallburt | oh I bet the udev ln fixes it! | 16:42 |
| randallburt | cool, thanks strigazi | 16:42 |
| strigazi | Team, we wrap it early. Is there anything else? | 16:42 |
| strigazi | You are welcome randallburt | 16:42 |
| Drago1 | Nice | 16:43 |
| juggler | good here. thx strigazi for presiding | 16:43 |
| strigazi | see you all next week! | 16:43 |
| strigazi | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 11 16:43:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-04-11-16.00.html | 16:43 |
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| felipemonteiro | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 11 17:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is felipemonteiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| felipemonteiro | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| felipemonteiro | o/ | 17:00 |
| pbourke | o/ | 17:00 |
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| felipemonteiro | Hi pbourke | 17:01 |
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| pbourke | felipemonteiro: thanks for reviewing my patch, hopefully its almost in good shape :) | 17:02 |
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| felipemonteiro | No problem, hopefully it shouldn't be more than a few days for someone else to look at it. | 17:03 |
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| felipemonteiro | #topic Open Discussion | 17:06 |
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| devray | Hi felipemonteiro: I submitted a blueprint for adding a volume selection UI element. Please could you take a look at it. Thanks! | 17:07 |
| felipemonteiro | devray: Let me check. | 17:08 |
| felipemonteiro | devray: Looks good, approved. | 17:10 |
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| devray | felipmonteiro: Thanks! | 17:10 |
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| pbourke | felipemonteiro: out of interest, what is your current priority for murano? | 17:16 |
| felipemonteiro | pbourke: For the immediate future, move murano-ci jobs into infra for both murano and murano-dashboard. | 17:17 |
| pbourke | felipemonteiro: sounds good | 17:19 |
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| pbourke | felipemonteiro: headed off now, chat soon | 17:28 |
| felipemonteiro | Talk to you later. If there are no other items, may we end the meeting early? | 17:28 |
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| felipemonteiro | #endmeeting | 17:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 11 17:32:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-04-11-17.00.html | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-04-11-17.00.txt | 17:32 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 11 19:00:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| mguiney | hello all! | 19:00 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:00 |
| catherineD | mguiney: hi | 19:00 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-04-11 | 19:01 |
| catherineD | should be a short meeting today .... | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | let's start ... | 19:04 |
| catherineD | #topic Displaying RefStack documentation | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | #topic Hosting at RefStack | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Hosting at RefStack (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:05 | |
| catherineD | So the spec merged ... next step is implementation | 19:05 |
| pvaneck | yea, i will put the patches together to get the docs on the about page | 19:05 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: great thanks ... | 19:06 |
| sslypushenko_ | o/ | 19:06 |
| mguiney | o/ | 19:06 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: hi ... agenda ... https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-04-04 .. should be a short meeting today ... | 19:06 |
| sslypushenko_ | thx! | 19:07 |
| catherineD | #topic Hosting at OpenStacl doc site | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Hosting at OpenStacl doc site (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:07 | |
| catherineD | This is completd Thanks to luzC: | 19:07 |
| catherineD | #link RefStack doc at OpenStack developer site https://docs.openstack.org/developer/refstack/ | 19:08 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:08 |
| catherineD | #topic Update existing certified data with the verified flag | 19:09 |
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| mguiney | new patch pushed! | 19:09 |
| catherineD | mguiney: thanks! | 19:09 |
| catherineD | everyone please review this new patch ... | 19:09 |
| mguiney | yoyou can now use the default name specified in the rst, or use the --file flag to supply your own filename | 19:10 |
| mguiney | *you | 19:10 |
| mguiney | which is just a matter of convenience, but i thought i'd at it in while I was at it | 19:10 |
| catherineD | mguiney: that is great ... | 19:10 |
| mguiney | cool! thank you for taking the time to review, y'all! | 19:11 |
| catherineD | This script now taking a CSV as input, could you descrive the columns (fields) of the csv somewhere as comment? | 19:11 |
| catherineD | descrive --> describe | 19:12 |
| catherineD | I will review some more after this meeting .. | 19:13 |
| pvaneck | i will test it locally as well | 19:13 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: thanks | 19:14 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:14 |
| catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | #link Optimize the link address ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455208/ ) | 19:14 |
| catherineD | do you think this change is necessary ? | 19:15 |
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| pvaneck | eh maybe if we are going to be serving it on the website, nice to have no mixed content with everything https | 19:16 |
| catherineD | definitely won't hurt | 19:16 |
| pvaneck | yea | 19:17 |
| catherineD | sure then we can merge the two patches | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | #link Fix to not run any test when the input test list is empty ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451599/ ) | 19:18 |
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| catherineD | mguiney: sslypushenko_: please review .. | 19:19 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:19 |
| catherineD | #link Change doc references from DefCore to Interop Working Group ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390881/ ) | 19:20 |
| catherineD | I think we are still waiting for DefCore rename patch to be merge | 19:20 |
| catherineD | last one .. | 19:20 |
| catherineD | #link Add scripts for running refstack-client in docker ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430701/ ) | 19:20 |
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| sslypushenko_ | It is still in progress | 19:21 |
| catherineD | thanks ... | 19:21 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:22 |
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| catherineD | any other discussion ? | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko_ | I have one thing in my mind | 19:22 |
| catherineD | please the floor is yours .. | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko_ | because refstack become an public API, it would be nice to have at least some rate limiters | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko_ | in API | 19:23 |
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| sslypushenko_ | in order to prevent too frequent requests | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess now we don't have anything behind our API | 19:24 |
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| catherineD | that is a good idea ... I know this time will come | 19:25 |
| sslypushenko_ | yeap and it will be better to be prepared | 19:25 |
| catherineD | I thought everything is behind our API .. | 19:25 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: agree .. | 19:25 |
| sslypushenko_ | Maybe we can ask infra team | 19:26 |
| catherineD | typically how would it be done ? | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess they already have encountered with problems likes this | 19:27 |
| catherineD | I wonder whether any other project have done that the n we ccan follow | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess some special config in web server | 19:27 |
| catherineD | our traffic is not hogh now but I think it is good for us to prepare .. | 19:28 |
| sslypushenko_ | or... I don't know) There a lot of ways to make such limiters | 19:28 |
| catherineD | let me put this as one of our action item ... | 19:28 |
| sslypushenko_ | Good, thank you! | 19:29 |
| catherineD | #action Investigate the possibility toadd request rate limit to RefStack API server | 19:29 |
| catherineD | I also have an topic to discuss | 19:30 |
| catherineD | I think it is about time to stop anonymous data upload | 19:30 |
| catherineD | what do you think? | 19:30 |
| sslypushenko_ | +1 ) | 19:30 |
| sslypushenko_ | as usual)) | 19:31 |
| catherineD | I know the Chris should be on this conversation .. we will need to follow up with him | 19:31 |
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| sslypushenko_ | absolutely | 19:31 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: mguiney: your thoughts? | 19:31 |
| rockyg | Hey. Again sorry I'm late. Am I needed? If not, I have other high priority stuff to get to. | 19:32 |
| pvaneck | i say it's fine to stop it. | 19:32 |
| catherineD | rockyg: you join at the time we need your opinion ... | 19:33 |
| pvaneck | force people to actually go through the key upload process and use their openstackids | 19:33 |
| mguiney | ahhhhhh yes that would make sense | 19:33 |
| catherineD | we are discussing about stop allowing anonymous data upload .. what is your thought? | 19:33 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: correct ... that is the intention .. | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | I guess for that we will need to give warning via email to openstack-dev | 19:34 |
| mguiney | I feel like that would make things a lot more secure, which is always nice | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: also it will be good now to get rid of key signature during key upload | 19:35 |
| rockyg | Definitely. Need to stop anonymous | 19:35 |
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| rockyg | We need to be able to see when/whether the system is being gamed. | 19:35 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: the key signature does give us more proection .. | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko_ | It was my intention to provide such patch, but looks like I don't have enough time, at least now | 19:36 |
| rockyg | Either for some company or against some company. | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: yes, but now it is not so important | 19:36 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: agree | 19:36 |
| rockyg | Channeling hogepodge here. But, also, it means you stand behind your work. The identities can be private, but we need them. | 19:37 |
| hogepodge | hi | 19:38 |
| catherineD | rockyg: yea we can implement this in 2 phases ... 1) upload with signature but share anonymously 2) upload and share verified data with identity | 19:38 |
| rockyg | Hey hogepodge just discussing the logistics of getting rid of anonymous upload. | 19:38 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: Hi.. we are discussing to stop allowing upload data anonymously | 19:38 |
| mguiney | makes sense. plus that might open interesting doors as far as allowing for the ability to validate against an outside source without actually having direct access to that source? | 19:38 |
| mguiney | ^just a thought | 19:39 |
| hogepodge | I have a list of results that have been used for trademark, so we can preserve those | 19:39 |
| hogepodge | I'm happy to get rid of anonymous, we just need to document how to do it so vendors don't get upset about it | 19:40 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: that is mguiney: patch .. once we have that patch merge we will be able to identify thos | 19:40 |
| catherineD | those | 19:40 |
| catherineD | Upload with signature has been available at RefStack for a year now ... | 19:41 |
| catherineD | I know not every vendor use it because we still allow anonymous upload .. | 19:41 |
| catherineD | I think it is time now | 19:42 |
| mguiney | awesome! | 19:42 |
| rockyg | ++ | 19:43 |
| catherineD | #startvote Stop allowing anonymous test result upload at RefStack ? yes, no | 19:43 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Stop allowing anonymous test result upload at RefStack ? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 19:43 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko_ | yes | 19:44 |
| sslypushenko_ | #vote yes | 19:44 |
| mguiney | #vote yes | 19:44 |
| catherineD | #vote yes | 19:45 |
| pvaneck | #vote yes | 19:45 |
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| hogepodge | #vote yes | 19:46 |
| catherineD | vote ends in 1 mins | 19:47 |
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| rockyg | #vote yes | 19:47 |
| catherineD | #endvote | 19:47 |
| openstack | Voted on "Stop allowing anonymous test result upload at RefStack ?" Results are | 19:47 |
| openstack | yes (6): rockyg, pvaneck, catherineD, hogepodge, sslypushenko_, mguiney | 19:47 |
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| catherineD | wow unanimous !!! | 19:48 |
| catherineD | #agreed Stop allowing anonymous upload of test result at RefStack. Share data will still be anonymous until further new decision. | 19:49 |
| catherineD | that is all the topics we have today .. | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | I guess we can end 10 mins early ... | 19:50 |
| rockyg | yay! | 19:50 |
| catherineD | thank you all!! | 19:50 |
| mguiney | \o/ | 19:50 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 11 19:50:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-04-11-19.00.html | 19:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-04-11-19.00.txt | 19:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-04-11-19.00.log.html | 19:50 |
| mguiney | have a good week, all! | 19:51 |
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