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aspiershi, anyone around today?09:03
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prometheanfire!startmeeting requirements09:59
openstackprometheanfire: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.09:59
prometheanfire#startmeeting requirements10:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 10:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.10:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.10:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'10:00
prometheanfire#topic rollcall10:00
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prometheanfiredims: dirk dhellmann?10:01
prometheanfireok, think everyone's sleeping10:02
prometheanfire#topic meeting time10:03
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dirko/10:03
prometheanfireI think we should look into changing the meeting time10:03
prometheanfiredirk: :D10:03
dirkprometheanfire: I'm ok with that10:03
prometheanfirethat TZ are you?10:03
dirkUTC+210:04
dirk(actually UTC+1+DST)10:04
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prometheanfirewhat time is good for you? any time 4 hours later than now is good for me10:04
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dirk4 hours till 6 hours from now works for me on wednesdays typically. I could also do evening (e.g. 9 hours from now) although that might not always work10:06
dirktoabctl: any preference?10:06
prometheanfire14 or 16 UTC?10:07
prometheanfirewe could have it at 1500 UTC10:07
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prometheanfirewell, I'll tenatively look into changing it to 1500 UTC10:09
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dirk+110:09
prometheanfireand let people know10:10
dirkprometheanfire: just post a review and we'll see if we can find a free meeting room10:10
dirkprometheanfire: I guess we could start today and see if people are around at that time or have conflicts10:10
prometheanfireyep, just made a task for me to do that10:10
prometheanfirek10:10
prometheanfirenext10:11
prometheanfire#topic stable-maint10:11
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prometheanfirewe need someone to do this, I've started reviewing things in releases to hopefully get access to stable-maint for reqs10:12
prometheanfiregonna work with doug on that more10:12
prometheanfire#topic projects without releases in master holding back (via retained caps) requirements updates10:14
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prometheanfireI've sent an email to the list, but no bites, gonna update that and tag the projects not doing releases more explicitly this time10:15
prometheanfirebut it's mostly mistral and django-opensack-auth, the os-* are also annoying10:15
prometheanfirenext10:16
prometheanfire#topic other items from the queue?10:16
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dirkprometheanfire: sorry, got interrupted. I'm also reviewing stable10:16
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dirkprometheanfire: I think we need to bring this up with doug, the current stable team doesn't seem to be very active anymore10:16
d0ugalkong: ^ are we missing a mistral release or something?10:16
dirkI'm happy to join that10:16
dirkprometheanfire: regarding caps, we should imho just post release requests. I might get to that tomorrow, but not today10:17
dirkprometheanfire: nothing else from me for the queue right now.. it looks pretty empty right now10:17
prometheanfired0ugal: the only mistral release from master is a beta that's not published to pypi10:17
dirkwhat concerns me is the oslo.i18n breakage, I'm not sure how that managed to slip through but then break almost everything else10:17
d0ugalprometheanfire: k, thanks. kong is our release liaison so I'll see what we can do10:18
prometheanfiredirk: ya, I'm not sure about that one10:18
prometheanfired0ugal: thanks :D10:18
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prometheanfired0ugal: I know mistral is holding back sqlalchemy from being bumped, since master is uncapped but the latest installable release (from pypi) is capped10:19
prometheanfire#topic anything else?10:20
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d0ugalprometheanfire: oh, I didn't know about this - how can we do a better job of looking out for issues like that?10:20
prometheanfired0ugal: it's mainly making a release when requirements have been relaxed10:21
prometheanfiregonna close if noone has anything10:23
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dirk+110:25
prometheanfire#endmeeting10:25
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"10:25
openstackMeeting ended Wed May 24 10:25:31 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)10:25
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-05-24-10.00.html10:25
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-05-24-10.00.txt10:25
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-05-24-10.00.log.html10:25
prometheanfirethanks for meeting, time for finishing my sleep :D10:25
dirkthanks prometheanfire , have a good night :)10:25
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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 13:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'13:00
alexchadinhi watcher team13:00
ananth_nhello everyone13:00
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licanweihi13:00
alexchadinyou are welcome, ananth_n13:00
hidekazuhello13:00
alexchadinhi hidekazu licanwei13:00
licanweihi alex, thank you for your gift :)13:01
hidekazui am still awake13:01
alexchadinToday's agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#05.2F24.2F201713:01
alexchadin#topic Announcements13:01
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sballe_morning13:01
alexchadinTwo weeks left until Pike-2 milestone13:01
sballe_alexchadin: I agree thx for the gift13:02
alexchadinsballe_: morning, Susanne13:02
sballe_hidekazu: thx for the gift13:02
alexchadinlicanwei, sballe_ I'm happy that you like my gifts ;)13:02
sballe_ananth_n: Good to see you :)13:02
adisky_hii13:03
ananth_nhi sballe13:03
alexchadinhi adisky_13:03
alexchadin#info Two weeks left until Pike-2 milestone13:03
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alexchadinwe have a lot of things to do13:03
alexchadinand there are some long term specs that I really would like to merge by second milestone13:04
alexchadinwe will discuss them today13:04
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alexchadinand ananth_n has come to give us a little bit more infos about his specs13:05
alexchadinlet's move on13:05
alexchadin#info Watcher Install guide dropped its WiP tag and is ready to be reviewed now13:05
alexchadin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463281/13:05
hidekazuthe spec is actively reviewed now.13:06
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alexchadinthis commit will be changed a lot of time, of course, so please review it asap13:07
alexchadinif you have personal issues with watcher installing, don't hesitate to share them with us13:07
alexchadinthis commit will affect on project's maturity level13:08
alexchadinany other announcements?13:09
alexchadin#topic Review Action Items13:09
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sballe_alexchadin: I will review since I will reinstall watcher from scratch in a new cluster I have13:09
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alexchadinsballe_: great! if it is possible, please follow the steps adisky_ proposed13:10
alexchadinWatcher13:11
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alexchadinAdd action description needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/13:11
sballe_yes that was what I was going ot do13:12
alexchadinhidekazu: could you please review it?13:12
hidekazualexchadin: ok,13:12
alexchadin#action hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/13:13
alexchadinAdd action description notification needs new PS (because of merge conflict) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454638/13:13
alexchadinlicanwei: have you seen this PS now has merge conflict?13:14
hidekazualexchadin: revised spec is accepted first though.13:14
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licanweiyes13:14
alexchadinhidekazu: I agree13:14
licanweiI'll submit a new PS13:15
alexchadinlicanwei: could you please fix it by the time your spec is merged?13:15
licanweiok13:15
alexchadingreat13:15
alexchadin#action licanwei submit new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454638/13:15
alexchadinReduced the code complexity can it be merged? #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441873/13:15
alexchadinhidekazu: I've seen you have some unanswered comments13:16
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hidekazu i added -1 due to trivial reason.13:16
hidekazualexchadin: i will fix for my comment and +2 :)13:17
alexchadinhidekazu: but it may be hard to submit new PS since Béla Vancsics don't answer on it last 7 days13:17
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alexchadinVersioned Notifications for service object needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/13:18
alexchadinVincent is not here, but I want to merge it ASAP13:18
alexchadinVladimir answered on Vincent's comments and it should be ready to go13:19
alexchadinwho can review it?13:20
licanweiI will13:20
alexchadin#action licanwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/13:21
alexchadinlicanwei: thanks13:21
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hidekazuof course i will, but this also spec is not merged13:21
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hidekazualexchadin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445817/13:22
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alexchadinsballe_: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445817/13:22
sballe_yes13:22
alexchadinhidekazu: we have already merged v.notifications without specs before :)13:23
alexchadin#action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445817/13:24
alexchadinNoisy Neighbor Strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/13:24
alexchadinsballe_: I've reviewed your spec, LGTM, but haven't seen code yet13:25
sballe_the code is there too13:25
alexchadinsballe_: Once I get more time to review, I'll do it firstly13:25
sballe_the code is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/213:25
alexchadinsballe_: I know, above is link to the code13:26
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sballe_oh I see what you mean. Sorry I misunderstood and thought you couldn;t find the code ;-)13:26
alexchadinwho would like to review Noisy Neighbor Strategy?13:26
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sballe_We need more people to review the spec so we can merge it and the code of course13:26
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alexchadinsballe_: We need more people at all :)13:28
hidekazui will do, but code does not have test at all, i treat this as wip.13:28
sballe_agreed. hidekazu can you review please?13:28
alexchadin#action alexchadin hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/13:29
alexchadinhidekazu: thank you13:29
sballe_thx ... We have been working on the tests I thougth he would have pushed those too. maybe he forgot13:29
alexchadinWatcher specs13:29
alexchadinupdate action description needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/13:30
alexchadinlicanwei: could you please provide more detailed commit message?13:30
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licanweiyes13:31
licanweii' ll update the commit message13:32
alexchadinlicanwei: nice!13:32
alexchadinBuild baremetal data model in watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/13:32
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alexchadinseems Yumeng isn't here13:33
licanweiI will tell her tommorrow13:33
alexchadinAdd new actions "power on" and "power off" in Watcher needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/13:34
alexchadinsballe_: can you review it?13:36
licanwei+113:36
sballe_yes13:36
lakerzhoualexchadin, I will review the power on/off too13:36
alexchadinlakerzhou, sballe_, licanwei: thanks!13:37
alexchadin#action sballe_ licanwei lakerzhou review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/13:37
alexchadinNoisy Neighbor Strategy spec needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/13:38
alexchadinThere are some problems with watcher-specs-core group13:39
alexchadinactully, only two core reviewer left there: me and Susanne13:40
sballe_I really need people to review the spec so we can get it upstreamed13:40
sballe_can other peopel at least review it and gice it a +113:40
* sballe_ apologizes for the typos13:40
hidekazusballe_: your comments are all clear now?13:41
alexchadinhvprash, Joe Cropper and acabot aren't reviewing watcher specs for now13:41
alexchadinsballe_: yeah, sure13:41
sballe_hidekazu: yes. everything is good13:41
lakerzhoualexchadin, I will review the noisy neighbor too13:41
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alexchadin#action lakerzhou review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/13:42
hidekazusballe_: ok,i will review13:42
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alexchadin#topic Open Discussions13:43
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sballe_hidekazu: thx13:43
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alexchadinananth_n: when do you plan to drop WiP tag from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448402/ ?13:44
alexchadinananth_n: and this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448571/13:44
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ananth_nthanks alexchadin. it's unlikely to make the Pike 2 timeframe you mentioned.13:45
ananth_ni.e. within the next 2 weeks due to some other priority items to handle at work13:46
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hidekazualexchadin: i added bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/volume-migrate-action13:47
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alexchadinananth_n: ok, and your spec are ready to be reviewed, right?13:47
ananth_nyes, the spec is ready for review. so please provide your comments.13:48
hidekazualexchadin: this bp is separate from zone-migration-strategy.13:48
alexchadinhidekazu: isn't it a part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450642/ ?13:49
ananth_nas I address the spec comments, I will also know the scope of the code changes required.13:49
alexchadinananth_n: thank you13:49
hidekazualexchadin: no, volume-migration-action is not part of cinder model.13:49
sballe_alexchadin: I will review fingerpriting.. both spec and code13:50
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hidekazualexchadin: please see dependency tree in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/zone-migration-strategy13:51
alexchadinsballe_: thanks!13:51
alexchadinhidekazu: yeah, already seeing, now it make more sense13:52
ananth_nthanks sballe_13:52
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hidekazualexchadin: i will propose volume-migrate-action spec by the next meeting13:53
alexchadinhidekazu: great!13:53
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alexchadinwe need more spec reviewers so I propose discuss it on next meeting13:54
alexchadincore spec reviewers*13:54
alexchadinwell, is there something else to discuss?13:55
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alexchadinthen let's end this meeting :)13:56
alexchadinthank you for attending!13:56
hidekazuthanks, bye!13:57
ananth_nthanks everyone. bye13:57
licanweibye13:57
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alexchadin#endmeeting13:57
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sballe_bye13:58
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
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amrith__#startmeeting trove15:01
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amrith__courtesy ping to attendees johnma slicknik aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik15:01
amrith__hi trevormc15:01
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amrith__can't see if there are any other 'regulars' here15:02
amrith__am using the we interface to irc today15:02
amrith__#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting15:02
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amrith__anybody here for trove meeting :) ?15:03
smatzekhere15:03
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trevormci see smatzek, kumarmn15:03
amrith__smatzek kumarmn hello15:03
kumarmn_Yes, I might be back as kumarmn_15:03
amrith__kumarmn_ hello15:04
kumarmn_hi amrith_15:04
amrith__so let us get started15:04
trevormcrpittau appears offline15:04
amrith__only thing I had on the agenda is to get the reboot meeting scheduled15:04
amrith__trevormc: what's the status of that?15:04
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trevormcThursday 1400 UTC15:05
trevormc#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117207.html15:05
trevormcI will have to give everyone a link 15 minutes before the meeting time15:05
trevormcgoogle hangouts are impromptu unless you share your calendar.15:05
trevormcI had the hardest time trying to share an event, I just gave up lol15:05
amrith__sorry, 1400utc you say?15:06
trevormcyes,15:06
trevormcfor thursday15:06
amrith__ok, what time zone is the doodle in?15:06
smatzek8 AM US CT15:07
trevormcit should be my time15:07
trevormcso CT15:07
trevormcI believe 1400 UTC is 9 AM CT15:07
amrith__ok, would someone please disambiguate this ...15:08
amrith__it should now be 10am eastern time (if it is 1400utc)15:08
amrith__which would make it 9am CT15:08
trevormcaccording to https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ it says CDT is 9am15:08
smatzekyeah, 9AM CDT, which we're in.  the first converter I used was on CST15:08
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trevormcsorry about that, I'm a new doodle poll user obviously. There wasn15:09
amrith__and with that smatzek decided to leave ...15:09
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amrith__OK, thursdaymorning at 10am ...15:09
trevormca clear step for adding a timezone15:09
amrith__well, either adding it or letting people know what it was. Anyway, we have that taken care of now15:09
amrith__trevormc: are you setting the agenda?15:10
trevormcI was hoping we could use some of the time here to do that.15:10
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trevormcI have a list of items15:10
amrith__will you be publishing it someplace (like in the wiki page for the meeting agenda)15:10
trevormc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-reboot15:10
trevormcI can publish this on the wiki.15:11
trevormcI believe it was already mentioned in the ML15:11
trevormcyes it was, it looks like my awesome email changed the link urldefense links..15:11
amrith__when are you switching to using a nice mailer like gmail :)15:12
trevormcthat's a good idea, Ill have to subscribe my gmail account.15:13
amrith__ok, looking at your trove-reboot, it sounds like a lot of threads, not an agenda.15:13
amrith__do you think we can discuss all that in 1 hour?15:14
amrith__are they all the 'things' that are important in this meeting?15:14
trevormcNo we should vote on the most important ones15:14
amrith__well, I would like to know who is volunteering to do reviews, that's (imho) issue #115:15
amrith__and I'd like to know who is volunteering to do the things listed there, that's issue #215:15
amrith__everything else is, I think, in the noise for the reboot meeting15:15
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amrith__my 2c worth15:15
trevormchaha dont we all15:16
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amrith__well, without that, what's the point of the rest of the conversation.15:16
amrith__we can make roadmaps of all the things we want, but I see no reviewers, and I see no volunteers who are signing up to do the things (at least, not stated in the etherpad)15:17
trevormcYeah we need more reviewers,15:18
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smatzekI am attempting to shift job responsibilities at work to spend time doing Trove reviews.  Once I get some blocks of time one of the issues will be I'm a newbie in Trove and so my reviews won't be terribly in depth while I get over the learning curve.15:18
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amrith__I'm already working on the gate issues so I'll continue to do that.15:18
trevormcsmatzek, thats nice to hear. Is that the only roadblock you have faced or are there other issues?15:19
trevormcPersonally, I can't install trove and that makes it hard to do reviews.15:19
trevormcI'm trying to fix the install-guide so it works for me but I can't get anything to work.15:19
smatzekroadblocks are time, which I'm going to be working to resolve in the coming weeks and 2, not knowing Trove, though I have dug through its code a bit lately.15:20
trevormcok thats good to know, what do you use to install trove? openstack-ansible?15:21
smatzekI have a lot of previous background experience in cloud-init, porting it to other platforms and have been through its code extensively, writing custom config modules, etc.15:21
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smatzekfor Trove install we have the ability to deploy it using OSA.  We're also considering finding some x86 systems to do straight devstack / trovestack on.15:21
trevormcok, can we get something in the docs for that? or at least a pointer from the trove repo?15:22
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smatzekone issue I'd like to understand the background of is what are the issues, design problems, with having/running with 2 images of the same database at different release levels.15:22
smatzekpointers to the code that is the problem, etc.  I like to learn by doing so I'd like to play around with that issue.15:23
amrith__hi slagle15:23
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amrith__hi SlickNik15:23
amrith__sorry slagle (fat fingered it)15:23
SlickNikhi folks.. o/ amrith15:24
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amrith__hi SlickNik will you be around on Thursday at 7am :)15:24
SlickNikYeah — I'm going to try really hard to be up by then.15:25
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SlickNikFor the reboot tomorrow. :)15:25
amrith__thanks15:25
smatzektrevormc, the best person to answer your question about Trove/OSA is kylek3h15:25
trevormcOk, ill ping him if i get stuck.15:26
amrith__so, is OSA relevant to the reboot, and if not could we put it aside15:26
smatzekaside15:26
trevormci think the main concern is reviews15:26
amrith__my question remains ... do we have the people to write the code; what's the reasonable things to consider for queen15:26
amrith__queens15:26
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amrith__and it is going to come down to who wants to do what in a hurry15:27
amrith__personally, making ansible work is a distraction15:27
trevormcyeah so many deployment options. Can we just focus on one?15:28
trevormcso trovestack right?15:28
smatzekfor the trove reboot / queens work, yes, but we have other driving factors that we will be doing it either way.  in fact, I believe the work is already done at ocata and master in OSA15:28
amrith__that has to work, that's how the CI will test15:28
amrith__not focusing on that, or breaking that, is not an option.15:28
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trevormcok so that should be a priority.15:29
amrith__well, it works now but there are some reviews waiting for reviewers15:29
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trevormcwhich ones?15:30
kylek3hsmatzek: The trove OSA work is currently only in pike.  I didn't backport it to Ocata.15:30
trevormcamrith, this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463405/ ?15:31
trevormcand this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463738/ ?15:31
trevormcanything else?15:32
amrith__the first, the second is not gating15:32
amrith__the second is devstack15:32
trevormcok I left my review on there but I still couldnt get it to work.15:33
amrith__anyway, I will update the wiki you sent with an 'agenda'15:33
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trevormci got it to install but the int-tests were showing all kinds of problems.. I guess they're unrelated15:34
amrith__thats fine15:34
amrith__so, anything else for this meeting re: reboot?15:34
amrith__if not, I want to know what moving docs in tree means15:35
trevormcthere was a thread going on the ML15:35
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trevormcit isn't decided yet but there seems to be overwhelming support for moving docs intree15:35
trevormc"Documentation publishing future"15:36
amrith__ok, sounds good. will leave that with you as the doc liaison15:36
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trevormchttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117162.html15:37
amrith__anything else for this meeting ...15:37
trevormci didn't have anything else15:37
SlickNikNot from me either.15:38
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amrith__going once ...15:39
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amrith__going twice15:41
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amrith__#endmeeting15:42
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amrith__thanks folks15:42
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SlickNikThanks amrith__!15:44
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Sukhdev_Hello ML2 folks16:00
rkukurahi!16:00
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trevormco/16:01
trevormchi all16:01
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Sukhdev_shall we start or give a minute for others to come on board as well16:02
trevormcjust a minute :)16:03
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Sukhdev_#startmeeting: networking_ml216:03
openstackMeeting started Wed May 24 16:03:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:03
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Sukhdev_#topic: Agenda16:03
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Sukhdev_#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_May_24.2C_201716:03
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Sukhdev_I have kept the agenda open and we can add as we go along16:04
Sukhdev_#topic: Announcements16:04
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Sukhdev_Anybody has something to announce/share ?16:04
rkukuranothing from me16:05
trevormci do16:05
trevormcjust wanted to say I made two more RFEs16:05
Sukhdev_trevormc : please go ahead16:05
trevormchttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tap-as-a-service/+bug/1693248 [RFE] Mirror VF Ports and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1693240 [RFE] Support SRIOV VF VLAN Filtering16:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1693248 in tap-as-a-service "[RFE] Mirror VF Ports" [Undecided,New]16:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1693240 in neutron "[RFE] Support SRIOV VF VLAN Filtering" [Undecided,New]16:05
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trevormcso now I don't know if this is ML2 related anymore16:06
Sukhdev_trevormc : I thought you had 516:06
trevormci did without the 5th one. We don't have a need for only pushing or only popping VLAN tags / customer tags16:07
trevormcOVS does push/pop operations for us so we can use that I guess.16:07
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Sukhdev_I see16:07
Sukhdev_any other announcement?16:08
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Sukhdev_#topic: RFEs/Bugs16:08
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Sukhdev_trevormc : do you want to discuss these FREs?16:08
trevormcYeah did I file the tap-as-a-service RFE correctly?16:09
trevormcI wasn't sure if I could do it as a bug in neutron, or a blueprint in taas.. i just did a bug in taas16:09
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trevormcI'm not sure do any of you have questions on them?16:10
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trevormcare they relevant to ML2?16:11
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Sukhdev_trevormc : so, depending upon how you plan on implementing it, will dictate where it belongs16:12
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Sukhdev_you should add some details to the RFE to provide the context16:12
trevormcyeah I don't really know the details lol16:13
Sukhdev_for instance, how would you like this to be configured? will this be admin or tenant scoped, etc16:13
rkukuratrevormc: Are the features (not the implementations) you are proposing something useful in general (with any ML2 MD), or only with SR-IOV?16:13
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trevormcThe two I mentioned today are specifically for SR-IOV because of VFs16:14
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rkukuratrevormc: For instance, what does “allocate a range of VLANs to a port” mean for a port that isn’t SR-IOV? This almost sounds like a trunk port to me.16:15
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trevormcrkukura, yes I believe it should be trunk port. The link from ML indicates it only supports one VLAN.16:16
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trevormcI just lack the technical details. I thought I could put this idea out there and we could work together to make some sense out of i.t16:16
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trevormcAt AT&T they only understand the SR-IOV use cases so thats all i can tell you.16:17
rkukuraSo is this RFE about implementing the existing trunk port feature using SR-IOV?16:17
trevormcI think it already works, just for one VLAN.16:17
rkukuraIsn’t a “trunk port” a port that provides the VM with access to a set of neutron networks as VLANs on a vNIC?16:18
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trevormcyeah that's the intention.16:19
rkukuraSo I’m not clear on what you mean bt “for one VLAN” in this context?16:19
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Sukhdev_rkukura : correct - that is what trunk port does16:19
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sadasutrevormc: can you elaborate on the use case ?16:20
Sukhdev_It almost sounds like the RFE should be to say - extend trunked vlan support to SRIOV ports16:20
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Sukhdev_that is, if it already does not do it16:21
trevormcI asked the research team they said "supporting VNFs that manipulate VLANs inherently multi-tenant"16:21
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trevormcfiltering traffic at the port level helps us do that.16:22
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trevormcI'm having a hard time asking the right questions I guess..16:22
trevormcdo either of you know pcarver?16:22
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trevormche has been helping me get this information but I get like 30 minutes every two weeks.16:22
rkukuratrevormc: I’ve met him, but have not worked closely with him.16:22
Sukhdev_trevormc : yes, I know pcarver well :-)16:23
trevormcso the problem here is, I don't understand the technology and upstream doesn't know what I'm asking16:23
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Sukhdev_trevormc : my suggestion is to have pcarver help you fill in the details in the RFE - this will help every body understand as to what is that you are trying to do16:24
trevormcyeah I was just about to do that16:25
rkukuratrevormc: I suggest trying to articulate a use case in the RFE that cannot be currently addressed with Neutron, and how a test would be structured for that use case.16:26
Sukhdev_trevormc : here is my suggestion - try creating a trunked port, add bunch of networks to this port and run a VM with SRIOV interface and play with it and see what you see and what you do not know - you may be surprised16:26
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rkukuraSukhdev_: that’s the test part I was suggesting ;)16:27
Sukhdev_rkukura : +116:27
trevormcok, ill see if I can get access to a lab with that hardware..16:27
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Sukhdev_trevormc : you may want to ping rossella__  about the trunked port information. She can tell you if this will work with SRIOV or not and most likely give you advise as to what is the quick way to get this going16:28
rkukuraSukhdev_: +116:29
trevormcok ill see if shes around, thanks.16:29
trevormcI heard VSPerf may be an option.16:29
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trevormcok i didnt have anything else on this.16:30
Sukhdev_trevormc : I think rossella__ is the right person to start with16:30
yamamototrevormc: this vsperf you mean? https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/vsperf/VSperf+Home16:31
trevormcyes16:31
trevormcyamamoto, yes16:31
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Sukhdev_trevormc : do you have another RFE to discuss?16:33
trevormcSukhdev_: nothing new, just the QinQ driver should be ready for review.16:34
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Sukhdev_trevormc : cool - thanks16:34
yamamototrevormc: wrt bug 1693248, i guess taas meeting is more appropriate.  http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Tap_as_a_Service_Meeting16:35
openstackbug 1693248 in tap-as-a-service "[RFE] Mirror VF Ports" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169324816:35
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trevormcone thing I think that may need to change in the patch is the get_mtu, I think I need to account for multiple headers.16:35
trevormcyamamoto, yeah I think that will be an early morning for me. Thanks for the suggestion.16:36
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trevormcyamamoto, I think its like 2:30 in the morning for me at that time lol.16:36
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trevormc00:30 , late night I guess.16:37
trevormcSukhdev_, no more bugs/RFEs to discuss from me.16:37
yamamototrevormc: this meeting is 1:00am for me. :-)   you can always use ML instead.16:37
trevormcI think ML it will have to be.16:38
Sukhdev_yamamoto :  you and I covered the monolithic DB transfer over neutron channel - do you want to discuss any further details here?16:38
yamamotoSukhdev_: i have no specific thing to discuss16:40
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Sukhdev_yamamoto : cool16:40
Sukhdev_#topic: Open Discussion16:40
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Sukhdev_Any body want to cover anything which we have not discussed already?16:41
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Sukhdev_look like we are done16:42
Sukhdev_Thanks folks16:42
Sukhdev_have a wonderful day16:42
Sukhdev_bye16:42
trevormcthanks everyone16:42
Sukhdev_#endmeeting16:42
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mugsie|alt#startmeeting Designate16:58
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mugsie|alt#topic Roll Call16:58
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trungnv_o/16:58
mugsie|altwhos here for the designate meeting?16:58
mugsie|alttrungnv_: o/16:59
trungnv_yep.16:59
mugsie|altI think it is just us16:59
trungnv_just you and me today?16:59
mugsie|alttimsim is away today, so we will people a minute or two more16:59
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trungnv_sure.17:00
mugsie|alt#topic Open Discussion17:01
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mugsie|altNothing really on the agenda - trungnv_ do you have anything17:01
trungnv_Yep. I have17:01
mugsie|altgreat17:01
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trungnv_we have update somethings in our PS about our solution for OVO https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464971/17:02
mugsie|alti saw17:02
trungnv_now, we can validate most of fields in OVO17:02
mugsie|altjust for zones, right?17:02
trungnv_yep.17:03
trungnv_but we meet some issue with currently code. such as tenant_id17:03
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mugsie|altOK - what is the issue?17:03
trungnv_https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1693286 this launchpad mention about validate for tenant_id field17:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1693286 in Designate "Schema Validator don't validate with "tenant_id" in Zone object " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nguyen Van Trung (trungnv)17:04
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trungnv_currently code assign tenant_id is string17:05
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trungnv_that mean we can put everything under string and most of them passed schema validator17:05
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mugsie|altyes - this is an old issue - we have always had it as a string17:05
mugsie|alt(due to hp public cloud using ints for tenant id's in the old days)17:06
trungnv_I thinks It should be int or uuid17:06
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mugsie|altmaybe, but that would be a separate change17:06
mugsie|altit could also be considered an API change17:07
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trungnv_yep. I am  understand.17:07
trungnv_I saw a lot of functional test doesn't validate via Schema validator.17:08
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mugsie|altno17:08
trungnv_such as my PS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467649/17:08
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mugsie|altwe want to get to a point where storage calls .validate() on all objects17:09
mugsie|altbut, ouir unit tests use invalid data17:09
trungnv_yes. I saw that on UT.17:10
mugsie|altso, what we should do, is add a .validate() to storage and see what breaks17:10
mugsie|altbut I do not have time right now17:10
trungnv_How do you think my suggestion to change into validate inside functional test?17:12
trungnv_before storage.17:12
mugsie|altits a good start17:13
mugsie|altand it will find issues alright17:13
trungnv_It will help us validate at fields in OVO fields before going to storage.17:13
mugsie|altthat patch is not to functional testing  - it is a unit test of sorts17:14
trungnv_my PS?17:14
mugsie|altyeah17:15
trungnv_yep.17:15
trungnv_did you review my PS? How do you think about this PS?17:16
mugsie|altI still think that OVO is going to hit issues - recordsets are going to be an interesting challenge17:16
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mugsie|althttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/467649 ?17:16
mugsie|altit is the wrong place to be relying on validation - we should be doing this by default17:16
trungnv_yeah. my co-worker working on recordset issue and you just meger his PS.17:17
mugsie|alt(we should be addig validation to the Zone.from_dict() method17:18
trungnv_yep. agree with your advice.17:18
mugsie|altOK - is there anything else to discuss ?17:19
trungnv_with tenant_id, in OVO we can validate via uuid and accept to int and uuid.17:20
mugsie|altno - it needs to stay as a string17:20
trungnv_thus we will separate our solution against currently code.17:21
trungnv_yep. sure.17:21
trungnv_type = string and format = uuid17:21
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mugsie|altno format17:22
trungnv_we can put 'int' or 'uuid' with type string.17:22
mugsie|altit should be a free form string17:22
mugsie|althttps://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/objects/zone.py#L32-L3517:22
trungnv_I see.17:23
trungnv_if it's string then we cannot validate for them.17:23
mugsie|altthe migration to OVO should only be OVO, and things like this should be discussed later. I don't think it makes a difference really - that info is provided by keystone, so we have to trust it17:23
mugsie|altsure - its the same as descriptions - we cannot validate them17:24
trungnv_yep. thanks.17:24
trungnv_Agree. thanks.17:24
mugsie|altAnything else?17:25
trungnv_no. thanks17:25
mugsie|altcool17:25
mugsie|alt#endmeeting17:25
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trungnv_bye/17:25
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mugsie|altsee you later o/17:25
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