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szaher#startmeeting freezer14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May 25 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'freezer'14:00
szaherHello everyone14:00
jiaopengjuhi14:00
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szaherLet's wait 5 minutes for everyone to join14:00
szaherjiaopengju: hi :)14:01
szaherPlease find the meeting agenda here #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings14:01
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vnoginhi guys )14:02
szahervnogin: Hi Vitaliy14:02
Yangyapengszaher hi14:02
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vnoginszaher: hi Saad :)14:02
szaherYangyapeng: Hey :) How are you ?14:02
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Yangyapengszaher  Often have a business trip recently :(14:03
szaherYangyapeng: Are you back again to China ?14:03
Yangyapengvnogin Congratulations  :)14:03
vnoginYangyapeng: thanks a lot :)))14:03
szaherGuys please add topics to the agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings14:04
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Yangyapengszaher yeah14:06
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szaherOk let's start ?14:09
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vnogin+14:09
jiaopengjuok14:10
szaher#topic reviews14:10
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szaherWe need more people to test features till we develop tempest tests for these features14:10
slashmeEspecialy Nova and Cinder backups14:11
szaherfor example nova backups, I'm working on a tempest test for nova backups at the moment so we can merge things fast14:11
szaherer14:11
slashmeAnd rsync engine14:11
szaherslashme: +114:11
vnogincool14:12
szaheranyone willing to test those features as well ?14:12
ralievhey guys :)14:12
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szaherI won't last long as I'm working on the tempest tests for them14:12
szaherraliev: Hey Ruslan :)14:12
jiaopengjuI'am testing the nova and cinder backups14:13
szaherwe're talking about tempest tests for features that are important and doesn't have tempest tests14:13
szaherjiaopengju: Yes, I can see but you're submitting some patches as well so we need someone else to test it as well14:13
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jiaopengjuszaher: it is really need14:14
szaherraliev: Can you develop some tempest tests for rsync ? so we make sure it's always working ;) ?14:14
szaherAlso Cinder os-brick engine ?14:15
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ralievas far as I remember, I created some tests for rsync engine14:15
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ralievbut there is need to check14:16
ralievas well as for os-brick14:16
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szaherraliev: I don't think those were tempest tests14:16
ralievszaher, probably you're right :)14:17
szaherraliev: so will you get the time to develop some tests ?14:17
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ralievI think yes14:18
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szaherraliev: Thanks :)14:18
szaherso hopefully this will speedup things as well14:18
ralievare you modified it a bit already?14:18
ralievI mean tempest tests14:19
ralievin general14:19
szaherm3m0 is working now on the new UI and moving freezerclient freezer schedule to api v214:19
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szaherraliev: I'm working on a patch to create instance and back it up using tempest so hopefully we can reuse the code for different use cases14:19
szaherhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/467692/14:20
szahersorry wrong one :(14:20
szaherhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/466763/14:20
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szaherhopefully that will help for nova and we can try it with cinder as well14:22
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szaherthe thing is there are some patches are waiting upstream for someone to test it but it's only me testing patches offline when I get the time to do so, otherwise things might be broken14:23
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Yangyapengindeed14:24
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szaherso I hope to get people to test those patches with me :)14:24
szaherAlso please It doesn't matter if you're a core or not, we need as many people as we can to review the code and +1 or -114:25
szaheryou'll find all links under code review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_usefull_links14:26
szaherOk, let's Move on ?14:26
jiaopengjuok14:26
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szaher#topic ceph support14:27
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szaherjiaopengju: There is ceph support in freezer using rados gateway which simulates swift api14:27
szaherjiaopengju: do you want to support swift in a different way ?14:28
jiaopengjuI means that do we have plan to support s3?14:28
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szaherWell, if it's s3 that fine :)14:29
szaherIt should be easy to do so14:29
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szaherthe storage part in freezer is plugable so you should be able to add driver but It might need some integration with the config opts14:30
jiaopengjuok, I would like to try. Because we use ceph object storage in our public or private cloud14:31
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szaherjiaopengju: If you have rados gateway ceph should work with swift driver without any problems14:32
jiaopengjuszaher: yes, but maybe we must integrate with keystone14:33
jiaopengjuIn our cloud environment, ceph object storage is a relatively independent part14:34
szaherjiaopengju: Ok :) so that is a different story :)14:34
szaherjiaopengju: but as I've told you, you can build an s3 driver to upload your backups to s314:35
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jiaopengjuszaher: thanks, I will try it14:35
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szaherjiaopengju: If you need anyhelp let me know14:36
jiaopengjuok14:36
szahermay be i will be able to help :)14:36
jiaopengjuthanks a log14:36
jiaopengjulog14:36
jiaopengjulot14:36
vnogin:)14:36
szaheranyone wants to add anything ?14:37
szahermove on ?14:37
vnogin+14:37
jiaopengju+114:37
szaher#topic move tempest test to separate repo14:37
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vnoginFor instance: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091425.html and https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html#standalone-plugin-vs-in-repo-plugin14:37
szahermove tempest test to separate repo (instance https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin ) (vnogin)14:37
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szaherLet's vote please use +1 pr -114:39
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szaher+114:39
szaherLet's create a repo14:39
vnogin+114:39
Yangyapeng+114:39
jiaopengju+114:39
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slashme+114:40
szaherOk, Looks like we gonna create it :)14:40
szaher#agreed Create freezer standalone tempest repo14:40
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szaheranyone wants to add anything ?14:41
szaher#topic #General Discussion14:41
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szaherhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/466826/14:42
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szaherI've submitted for Pike goal python3.5 and I've done some patches to do it in different repos14:42
szaherI will be working soon on the other goal uwsgi14:42
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szaheranyone wants to discuss anything please raise and let's discuss it14:44
jiaopengjuCurrently, restore nova feature is broken14:45
jiaopengjuso I submit this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467917/14:45
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szaherjiaopengju: I'll take a look14:47
jiaopengjuszaher: thanks14:47
szaherjiaopengju: Yea, I knew this one as python-novaclient 7.1 contains the networks object and after that the networks object got removed14:48
jiaopengjuyes14:48
szaherif you do pip freeze on your env you'll find novaclient 8.x14:48
szaherwhich breaks this one :)14:48
szaherso I knew it before but I was busy with other stuff14:49
szaherjiaopengju: Thanks :)14:49
szaherjiaopengju: approved :)14:49
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jiaopengjuszaher: thanks14:49
szaheranything else ?14:50
szahervnogin ?14:50
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szaherby the way, Is dima gonna be back soon or should I work on oslo.db or find someone to work on it ?14:51
szaherraliev: are you going to be working on something in a short term period ?14:51
ralievyep14:52
szahergreat14:52
szaherThanks :)14:52
szaheranyone wants to add anything or should we close ?14:53
szaherOk, Thanks a lot14:54
szaher#endmeeting14:54
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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May 25 15:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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bswartzhello all15:00
xyang2hi15:00
vponomaryovHello15:00
dustins\o15:00
gansohello15:00
zhongjunhi15:00
marksturhi15:00
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raissahi15:00
bswartzso I expect today to be a short meeting...15:01
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bswartz#topic announcements15:01
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bswartzMilestone 2 is in 2 weeks15:01
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bswartzthis is R-14, and Pike-2 is R-1215:01
bswartz#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html15:01
jungleboyjo/15:02
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bswartzthe notable deadline for Manila is the new driver submission deadline in R-1215:02
gouthamro/15:02
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bswartzwe have a bunch of open changes that need reviewing15:03
bswartzplease let's keep up the pace of merging features and bugfixes so it doesn't all pile up at the end15:03
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bswartzbefore we know it the feature proposal freeze will be here and we'll be reviewing changes like mad and possibly throwing things out15:04
bswartzthere are no items on the agenda today so I'll just open up the floor15:04
bswartz#topic open discussion15:05
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bswartzdoes anyone have something they want to discuss today?15:05
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bswartztbarron has been on vacation the last 2 weeks but I think he gets back on Tuesday15:05
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bswartzokay sounds like nobody has anything15:06
bswartzthis will be one of our shortest meetings on record15:06
bswartzI'll let you all get back to work15:06
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bswartzthanks all15:07
bswartz#endmeeting15:07
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zhongjun:)15:07
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jungleboyjThanks!15:07
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lhinds#startmeeting security17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May 25 17:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'17:00
lhindsany security folks around this week?17:00
vdso/17:00
lhindshi vds17:01
lhinds#chair vds17:01
openstackCurrent chairs: lhinds vds17:01
lhindsany intel / rackers around?17:01
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lhinds#topic Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda17:01
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vdslhinds: not many people around today17:03
lhindssame as last week vds17:03
lhindsthings are not looking good for the security group at the moment, there was only two of us last time around too.17:04
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lhindshyakuhei is getting married this week, but should be back next week. I will try to reach him and discuss the groups health.17:04
vdslhinds: I've been around for few months, and apart from an OSSG I've not been able to do much, but I do have some time to spare, I was wondering what's going on with the security guide17:05
vdsI'd be happy to help with the update17:05
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lhindsvds: I am not to sure about the sec guide, I plan to have a swoop through tomorrow17:06
lhindsin fact all patches are merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/security-doc17:07
vdslhinds: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451965/ has a -117:08
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lhindsnot sure there is much we can do for that one vds , d'McCowan needs to respond to the the comments.17:10
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dave-mccowanlhinds there are still big parts of that chapter that need to be written17:11
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dave-mccowanlhinds we worked on that chapter at PTG, i put our collective work (that we did in a google doc) into this patch so it wouldn't get lost17:11
lhindsack, dave-mccowan17:12
lhindsdo you need some co-authors dave-mccowan ?17:12
lhindsI can take a look at it17:12
vdsI'm also available if you need, happy to help17:12
dave-mccowanlhinds yes, please.  rob had volunteered to write some of the remaining parts, but i'm not sure he's still able to help.17:13
lhindsnp, I will take a look17:13
lhindsare there any Syntribos folks around?17:13
dave-mccowanlhinds vds  thanks!  take a look and we can co-ordinate the remaining work.17:13
lhindsdave-mccowan: +117:13
vdsack17:14
lhindsfor OSSNs no new ones in yet.17:14
lhinds#topic AOB17:14
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lhindsAny other business?17:15
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vdsI guess not17:16
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dave-mccowanhow many folks are planning to go to PTG in Denver for Security Project meetings Monday/Tuesday?17:17
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lhindsdave-mccowan: I have not had it approved yet, but I do hope too.17:17
vdsI can't make it17:17
vdsany chance to participate from remote?17:17
michaelxin_can not go17:18
dave-mccowanthe venue is supposed to have great A/V systems in each room which should make for easy remote participation17:18
vdssounds good17:18
michaelxin_when?17:18
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michaelxin_sorry being late.17:19
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lhindsmichaelxin_: do you want to do an update on Syntribos at all?17:20
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michaelxin_We have random fuzzer code merged17:20
michaelxin_We are using it at a couple of rackspace internal API nows.17:20
michaelxin_Michael Dong is working with the team members on it now.17:21
dave-mccowanPTG in Denver, CO at the Denver Renaissance Stapleton Hotel this September 11th-15th.17:21
lhindssounds cool michaelxin_17:21
michaelxin_dave-mccowan: Thanks.17:21
lhindsok, I think we can wrap up for now.17:22
michaelxin_cool17:22
lhindsunless any last points need bringing up?17:22
michaelxin_See you all next time17:22
michaelxin_Have a great day17:22
lhindsthanks all17:22
lhinds#endmeeting17:22
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tellesnobrega#startmeeting Sahara18:00
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esikachevhi18:00
vgridnevo/18:00
zemuvierhi all18:00
jeremyfreudbergo/18:00
rodrigodso/18:00
tellesnobrega#topic News/Updates18:01
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vgridnevNo updates from me, was doing several reviews18:02
jeremyfreudbergjust fixing everything related to nova-network removal18:02
tellesnobregahey guys, I was on PTO since the summit until yesterday... still getting back in track with emails and to dos18:02
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esikachevi have not any update. planing to reinstall devstacks on our ci hosts18:02
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tellesnobregaesikachev, why is that needed? major breakage?18:02
zemuvieri don't have anything interesting too18:03
egaffordNo update other than that I exist again.18:03
esikachevfor testing on master version of devstack18:03
jeremyfreudbergthe walmartlabs people have also been talking to me about their improved hadoop-swift driver (tellesnobrega that was the email I sent you)18:03
tellesnobregagreat to have you back here egafford18:03
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egaffordGood to be back. :)18:03
tellesnobregaesikachev, I see, thanks18:03
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, awesome, I will try yo get to it today and reply accordingly and will spread to the whole community18:04
tellesnobregaI guess one update I have is that we got an intern on the outreachy program, she is going to be working on the templates import export option (side project)18:05
jeremyfreudbergtellesnobrega, cool, they had some questions about what they want to do with their code (should it go into sahara-extra, should it go to Apache, should it go somewhere else??)18:05
tellesnobregaand if time permits, she may help us out with some other stuff18:05
egaffordtellesnobrega: Awesome! Is she about on IRC yet?18:05
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egafford(The internship cycle starts soon, yes?)18:06
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, cool, I have to think about it and we should discuss the options18:06
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tellesnobregaegafford, it does... she was hanging out in #openstack-sahara a while back... I will talk to her soon and ask her to be available there18:06
tellesnobregaher irc nick was changing between iwona and pinus18:07
tellesnobregaso if anyone sees her around say hi and welcome her to the team18:07
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tellesnobrega#topic Boston Summit and next steps18:08
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tellesnobregaI just want to summarize a little of what happened at the summit and how that affected us, there will probably be other stuff than what I'm saying here, but I didn't catch up with jeremyfreudberg's info on swifta and with esikachev's on the session that he attended for Queen's community goals18:09
tellesnobregaFirst of all, there was only a few of us there, I recall esikachev, jeremyfreudberg, egafford (partially), marianne (she won't be here for a while) and alina18:10
esikachevalina = zemuvier :)18:11
tellesnobregaesikachev, thanks :)18:11
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tellesnobregaWe didn't have any proposals on the forum, but we did have a onboarding room where we instead of instructing new contributors (because none showed up) we explained to a possible costumer how sahara works and how it could e useful to his use case18:12
tellesnobregaturned out to be really productive if we consider the aspect that we might get a new user18:12
egaffordHe was a public cloud operator, so it would be pretty cool to have them.18:12
tellesnobregayes18:13
egafford(Since Sahara really gets exciting when it provides ease of use to public cloud customers without the overhead of operating their own stack.)18:13
tellesnobregaThe other important thing that happened (sadly concurrent with the onboarding) was the presentation of the swifta, a new swift driver that promises to fix some important issues with the current driver, such as large files problems18:14
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jeremyfreudbergbeyond large files, also better thread management, fixes issues with object listing, more efficient rename, etc18:15
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jeremyfreudberg#link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/introducing-swifta-a-performant-hadoop-file-system-driver-for-openstack-swift18:15
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tellesnobregaI still have to read jeremyfreudberg's email and get in touch with them, but from what jeremyfreudberg has told me, they need a place to host their code, and we need to understand that code and see where it could fit and we could and should maintain it18:16
tellesnobregathanks jeremyfreudberg :)18:16
jeremyfreudbergyes, exactly, they are heading towards open-source release soon, but the governance is still "up in the air"18:17
jeremyfreudbergnot to mention they based their work off icehouse branch of sahara-extra, so we have to rebase it too18:18
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tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, true18:18
tellesnobregathat shouldn't be too problematic, sahara-extra doesn't change much18:19
tellesnobregaOther than that, but not as important, I presented the projects update, where I gave a brief overview of sahara and probable directions we are heading in the next cycles18:19
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tellesnobregaI guess that is all I have to say about the summit, if I stumble into anything else I will email18:20
tellesnobrega#topic Open Discussion18:21
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egaffordAny particularly high-prio reviews at present?18:22
vgridnevDo we want to drop some legacy code which is related to the direct engine (some stuff around deletion of resources)18:22
tellesnobregaegafford, yes, the work jeremyfreudberg is doing on nova-network18:22
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esikachevabout tosky's idea for publishing images on https://tarballs.openstack.org. i found the link with trove project with images https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/images/18:22
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jeremyfreudbergegafford: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466778/ (my last patchset just broke the tests again, but the prior patch should be "reviewable")18:23
egaffordjeremyfreudberg: Ack; thanks.18:23
tellesnobregavgridnev, that sounds like a good idea, if it is not being used, best we take it out, can you work on that? or are you just suggesting to someone else?18:23
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vgridnevI actually noticed that right there https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466778/1818:24
amrithesikachev ... trove doesn't use those images; they are stale, they cause much anguish and problems.18:24
tellesnobregaesikachev, do you want to follow up on luigi's email to infra and see if you can make it happen? or do you want me to do it?18:24
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egaffordamrith: Thanks for the heads up. :)18:24
esikachevtellesnobrega: i can18:25
amrithegafford .. np18:25
tellesnobregaesikachev, thanks18:25
tellesnobregaamrith, thanks18:25
vgridnevI guess that I can do that18:25
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tellesnobregavgridnev, thanks18:26
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jeremyfreudbergso... regarding that old direct engine code, anyone who is interested please jump in on my/vgridnev's conversation on the patch18:29
jeremyfreudbergthere is some more info there18:29
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tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, yes, I will follow up there too, but I agree with what vgridnev said, will leave a comment there18:29
tellesnobregado we have anything else to discuss?18:30
tellesnobregaanyone who went to the summit has anything to add?18:30
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jeremyfreudbergi remember some forum about some protected api thing18:31
jeremyfreudbergi didn't go to it, nor do i remember exactly what it was, but it something about, for example, having the instances created by sahara or similar service being protected18:31
jeremyfreudberganyone remember that?18:32
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, yes, I remember talking to adam young about it, I can try to ping him and see what was the outcome of that18:32
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jeremyfreudbergok well if it was adam young, he works pretty closely with my organization, I can just ask him myself18:33
tellesnobregaI will try to find more info on that18:33
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, cool, I'm not sure he was on this forum, but I remember talking to him about something related to it and I know he is working with API issues and grants and what not18:34
jeremyfreudbergtellesnobrega, actually he couldn't have been the host of that forum, otherwise I would have been there18:36
jeremyfreudbergso yeah, I guess just ask him18:36
tellesnobregajeremyfreudberg, cool18:36
tellesnobregaI will look around too18:36
tellesnobrega#action jeremyfreudberg and tellesnobrega to find more about the protected api "thing"18:36
jeremyfreudbergnice18:37
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tellesnobregaanyone else?18:39
tellesnobregaI guess we can call the meeting18:41
tellesnobregathanks everyone18:41
tellesnobregawelcome back egafford :}18:41
tellesnobrega#endmeeting18:42
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