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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun  7 13:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'13:00
alexchadinhi watcher folks!13:00
adisky__Hi13:00
licanweihi13:00
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alexchadin#topic Announcements13:01
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alexchadin#info This Thursday we will have pike-2 release13:01
alexchadinso I won't include tomorrow's patches into release13:02
hidekazualexhi13:02
vincentfrancoiseo/13:02
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alexchadinI will point some patches that would be great to merge by EOD13:02
alexchadinor it will happen during pike-313:03
alexchadinfor now, we have completed 4 blueprints for pike-2 by 10:00 UTC13:03
alexchadinI believe BP is done when it has spec and implementation part13:04
alexchadin#info Watcher Install guide has been migrated! +1 to our maturity level13:04
alexchadin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463281/13:04
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: nice!13:05
alexchadinthat's really nice13:05
alexchadin#info watcher-core members have been added to the watcher-core-specs group13:05
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alexchadinso, vincentfrancoise licanwei hidekazu Pru you are welcome :)13:06
Yumeng__Hi sorry for late13:06
alexchadinYumeng__: hi!13:06
vincentfrancoiseYumeng__: hi13:06
alexchadinany other announcements?13:07
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alexchadinwell, let's move on13:09
alexchadin#topic Open Discussions13:09
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alexchadinas you may remember, I asked you to take a look at Storyboard13:10
alexchadinShould we migrate our blueprints and bugs from Launchpad to the Storyboard? Should we do it during the pike cycle? IMHO (alexchadin) it would be better to start work with Storyboard along with new cycle.13:10
alexchadinhttps://storyboard.openstack.org13:11
adisky__+113:11
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: I've spent like 15mn on the interface but there are some features of launchpad I don't see as of now13:11
alexchadinI think, it would be appreciate to migrate our blueprints and bugs when pike cycle is over and we have scope of undecided BPs13:12
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: which ones?13:12
licanweiI suggest to start with storyboard with new cycle13:12
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: How to differentiate stories and the BPs, and how to see the BP dependency graph13:13
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alexchadinvincentfrancoise: stories is a BPs in Storyboard glossary13:13
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: like stories are BPs and work lists are the implementation>13:14
vincentfrancoise?13:14
alexchadinIt all begins with a story. A story is a bug report or proposed feature. Stories are then further split into tasks, which affect a given project and branch.13:14
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: https://storyboard.openstack.org/?#!/page/about13:14
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: boards is useful thing13:15
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: yeah the board is the biggest win of this tool13:15
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: but I don't see dependency graph too13:15
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: I may ask Foundation contact person about this feature13:15
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: the dependency graph is great to understand the big picture of what we want to achieve13:16
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: keeping dependency graph will help us to control BP workflow13:16
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persiaIf I may, some things I've seen from other Storyboard users: some mapping of BPs to specs repos, where the spec change is one of the tasks in the Storyboard story.13:17
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persiaThere is no equivalent to the dependency graph (and too many discussions of the semantics for "dependency" in issues/bugs/features/etc. for there to be one soon)13:18
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persiaI've seen some other users track this with a simple dependency test file, and tooling to generate graphs, although this may or may not work for you.13:19
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vincentfrancoisepersia: thanks for the heads up13:20
alexchadinpersia: thank you13:20
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alexchadinYumeng__ hidekazu what do you think about migrating?13:21
hidekazualexchadin: i do not test enough. but as of now, i can not find clear advantage of migrating.13:21
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: maybe we need to learn tracking with dependency test file13:22
Yumeng__ I have no objection.  Good for migration13:22
alexchadinhidekazu: boards!13:22
alexchadin:)13:22
Yumeng__:)13:22
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pcarverExcuse my barging in, but this is a topic of interest to me. The Series and milestones view in Launchpad is too valuable to give up without a replacement.13:22
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: hum, IMHO we shouldn't complicate things for us13:23
pcarverI'm interested in Storyboard, but I think it needs this feature before projects should migrate completely off of Launchpad13:23
alexchadinpcarver: you are right13:23
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: either it's in storyboard or we function differently13:23
alexchadinok, I will write pros and contras and send it to Foundation13:24
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alexchadinSeries and milestones are pretty useful13:24
pcarverIt's particularly useful because it's consistent across projects. Storyboard may allow projects to independently create their own views, but with Launchpad I can go to most OpenStack projects and see what their Ocata, Pike, etc milestones are and what blueprints and bugs are targetted at each.13:25
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vincentfrancoisepcarver: I agree because if you split your stories too much, it becomes difficult to understand at a glance  what is the end goal of the BP you are looking at13:25
pcarverI don't actually pay attention to Watcher, just happened to open my IRC to openstack-meeting-alt this minute, but I can immediately see what you guys are working on fir pike-3 milestone, for example, without having to put any effort into it13:26
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alexchadinI will create etherpad and let's everyone write their feedback on Storyboard13:28
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hidekazu+113:29
alexchadinwith pro and contra regarding to launchpad13:29
adisky__+113:29
licanwei+113:30
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alexchadinand the second topic I haven't mentioned in agenda: shouldn't we try to start chat in gitter.im? this service will allow to13:31
alexchadinduplicate messages in gitter and IRC channel13:31
alexchadinit looks like "[From Gitter] alexchadin : ping pong"13:33
hidekazualexchadin: can i continue to use irc channel?13:33
alexchadinhidekazu: sure13:33
vincentfrancoiseif people can use both then why not13:33
alexchadingitter allows to see messages from IRC13:34
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alexchadingreat13:35
hidekazui will continue to use irc.13:36
alexchadindo you want to discuss something else?13:36
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alexchadinlet's move on13:37
alexchadin#topic Review Action Items13:37
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alexchadinWatcher specs13:38
alexchadinNoisy Neighbor Strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/13:38
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hidekazualexchadin: this needs update.13:39
alexchadinsballe_ will submit new PS soon13:39
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: there's already +2 and -113:39
alexchadinhidekazu: yeah, she knows13:39
lakerzhou2I think the codes need some final polish, also I had a question about function of find dest-server for noisy neighbor to migrate13:40
alexchadin#info sballe_ submit new PS on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/13:41
alexchadinSupport workload fingerprinting needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448396/13:41
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lakerzhou2I will review the fingerprinting spec13:42
alexchadin#info lakerzhou2 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448396/13:43
alexchadinlakerzhou2: thanks!13:43
alexchadinBuild baremetal data model in watcher needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/13:43
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alexchadinhidekazu licanwei now you may review it again as cores :)13:44
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hidekazualexchadin: yes.13:44
licanweiok13:45
licanwei:)13:45
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alexchadinAdd new actions "power on" and "power off" in Watcher needs final core review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/13:45
alexchadinthe same here13:46
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: put me on it ;)13:46
alexchadin#info vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/13:47
alexchadinupdate action description needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/13:47
alexchadinlicanwei: I want to ask one thing about it13:48
licanwei?13:48
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alexchadinlicanwei: you want to send notifications when we get the action?13:49
licanweiwhat's the mean 'get the action'?13:49
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alexchadinlicanwei: "watcher action show" command13:50
licanweiyes, if the api side lack action description13:50
alexchadinlicanwei: ok, let's discuss it later13:51
licanweiok13:51
alexchadinwho would like to review it?13:52
Yumeng__Does it only need core review?13:52
hidekazui already reviewed in terms of updating. because the spec is once approved.13:53
alexchadinYumeng__: any review is appreciate ;)13:53
Yumeng__If not, add me on it.13:53
Yumeng__:)13:53
alexchadin#info Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/13:53
alexchadinWatcher13:53
alexchadinCancel Action Plan needs reviews (better to merge it today) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458492/13:53
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hidekazu+113:55
alexchadin#info hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458492/13:55
alexchadinCinder model integration needs final core review (better to merge it today)13:56
adisky__Vincent Francoise: addressed all your comments, you can +2 it13:56
alexchadin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450642/13:56
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hidekazuadisky__: talking about cancel action plan?13:57
adisky__hidekazu: yes.13:58
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alexchadinadisky__: could you please review ?13:58
alexchadinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/450642/13:59
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adisky__alexchadin: I ready reviewed it.13:59
alexchadinadisky__: I see, sorry13:59
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alexchadinwe run our of time13:59
hidekazulicanwei not here?13:59
vincentfrancoisebye everyone ;)14:00
alexchadinand we should end up our meeting14:00
hidekazubye14:00
licanweiyes,i'm here:)14:00
Yumeng__bye14:00
licanwei:(14:00
licanweibye14:00
hidekazucould you review cinder model integration?14:00
alexchadinlet's continue on openstack-watcher channel14:00
hidekazubyee..14:00
licanweinp14:00
alexchadin#endmeeting14:00
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zhurong#startmeeting solum_team_meeting14:03
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zhuronglets wait for couple of minutes to see if others join14:04
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zhurong#endmeeting14:14
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amrith#startmeeting trove15:00
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amrithourtesy ping to attendees johnma slicknik songjian trevormc15:00
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amrithcourtesy ping to attendees johnma slicknik songjian trevormc15:01
amrithhi all15:01
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amrithjohnma SlickNik ... I managed to get my tunnel working in the last minute15:01
amrithat the last minute15:01
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johnmahi amrith, that's good15:01
amrithlet's get started ...15:02
amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting15:03
amrithI didn't get a chance to update the agenda but there are a couple of things to discuss15:03
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trevormcI put some stuff in the open discussion.15:03
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amrithbut, given that there are a couple of us, let me ask whether it would be convenient to all to get on a webex now? songjian would that work for you? others (in the US), would this work for you?15:03
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trevormcit would go against what we determined in the last call.15:04
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amrithwhat would?15:05
trevormc.. i mean.. are we doing the biweekly call today or tomorrow?15:05
amrithusing webex?15:05
trevormcoh i guess we can just webex isntead of IRC meetings15:05
trevormcim ok with that.15:05
amrithsongjian are you there?15:05
songjianSorry, just dropped15:05
songjianNow here15:05
amrithno worries, would a webex work for you?15:05
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songjianI need to know, never touched15:06
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amrithok, let's defer it for now in that ase15:06
amrithin that case15:06
amriththe two things that I wanted to update everyone on were quick15:06
amrith1. I've tagged trove, dashboard and client for pike-b215:07
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amriththe changes are currently marked WF -115:07
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amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471782/15:07
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471783/15:07
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47178415:07
amrithwe managed to get all of Gabor Antal's changes in15:07
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+amrith+project:openstack/releases15:07
trevormcyay \o/15:08
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amrithI have also found that the change to pylint being proposed here15:09
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470042/13/test-requirements.txt15:09
amrithis breaking our gate :(15:09
amrithwill have to handle that somehow15:09
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amrithwhen I did the initial pylint stuff, I pinned astroid but the bot seems to want to change that15:10
amrithso we will have to handle it15:10
amrithThe second thing I wanted to talk about was re: the trove reboot15:10
amrith2. trove reboot, what's the next step?15:10
amrithfirst, we'd said we'd have another all about this; trevor are you setting it up?15:10
amrithtrevormc ^^15:11
trevormcoh I can host it again. I just need to figure out webex first.15:11
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amrithdoesn't have to be webex15:11
amrithyou can use hangouts15:11
trevormcbecause we said hangout will not work for future use right?15:11
amrithor whatever you want to use15:11
trevormcok hangouts is good15:11
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amrithwell, the 10 person limit may be a drag but ...15:11
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trevormcso to be clear, we are meeting at thursday UTC 150015:13
amrithtrevormc ^^15:13
amrithok, which thursday? not tomorrow, correct?15:13
amrithit was NEXT thursday15:13
amrithyes?15:13
trevormcoh.. has it only been one week?15:13
trevormcno its been two weeks, as of tomorrow.15:14
SlickNik-I think it's been 215:14
trevormccall was hosted on 5/2515:14
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amrithhmm, time flies when you are having fun15:14
amrith1500utc you say?15:14
trevormcso tomorrow, 1500 UTC. originally was 1400 but we asked to move it down one hour15:15
trevormcyes15:15
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SlickNik-yes please 1500 UTC15:15
SlickNik-Think of the children. :)15:15
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trevormcyeah 1500 would be nice, tonight is karaoke night lol15:16
* amrith wonders, when did SlickNik- get children?15:16
amrithok, 1500UTC tomorrow it is15:16
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trevormcthat covers 1 of my open discussion items15:16
SlickNik-just a turn of phrase :P15:16
amrithaha15:17
amrithok, sounds good.15:17
amrithso at that meeting (tomorrow), one of the things I'd like to explore is how we can do this reboot15:18
trevormcmy intention was to onboard new contributors quickly.15:18
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trevormcby being availabe in the call with their questions.. but we didnt have too many of those15:18
trevormc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-reboot15:19
trevormcthe best judgement patch I don't think is working out.. I haven't had much to add to it since the initial draft. Maybe someone else should try?15:20
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trevormc.. so how we can do this reboot.15:20
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amrithok, I guess we can discuss that tomorrow15:22
smatzekI agree15:22
amrithwhat's #2 on your list?15:22
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amrithtrevormc ^^15:22
trevormcFeel free to chime in on the module usage guide https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470404/15:22
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trevormcI am working on more trove documentation.. instead of the dev how tos. I'll just be putting them in the user/admin guides15:23
trevormcthats all15:23
amrithok, will look at the review15:23
amrithanyone have anything else?15:24
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amrith#topic open discussion15:24
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songjianChina's network may have some problems (bad walls)... So hopefully, there will be a record of documentation, so it's easy to see, THX15:24
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songjianfor trove reboot15:24
trevormcwe will capture the important things in the etherpad.. but a transcript like traditional meetings wont be available.15:25
smatzekOne roadblock I have is I don't have x86 environments available where I can do nested virt.  Yesterday I succeeded in getting an OSA deployed overcloud on ppc64le KVM and got nested VMs active and could SSH into them.15:25
trevormcsongjian, I can echo most things in the #openstack-trove channel if that is helpful to you15:26
songjianWell, that's enough. I'll check it out15:26
songjianthx,trevormc15:26
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smatzekTrove deployment had a hiccup with OSA at master/pike.  The global pin to move neutron client to 6.3.0 in trove requirements broke the build of the venv.  I had to revert to a commit before that landed to get it working.15:26
smatzekI think it's a point-in-time issue as Nova also moved to 6.3.0 neutronclient but OSA did not advance the commit SHA it pulls for Nova, possibly because of that issue.15:27
trevormcsounds like an OSA issue?15:27
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trevormcfor deploying trove, we mostly use trovestack (tripleo + dib) right?15:28
amrithsmatzek what is this?15:28
amrithwhat is OSA?15:28
trevormcopenstack ansible15:28
smatzeklikely 2 or more issues.  OSA could change to a commit sha earlier than the requirements bump as they have done with Nova. However, my guess is that the requirements conflict will be worked out at somepoint for Nova and then trove will work.15:29
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smatzektripleo is one deployment tech, openstack-kolla is another, trovestack, devstack, OSA.  We'll likely be sticking with OSA for various reasons.15:29
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trevormctrovestack may be worth looking into.. considering we gate on it. right?15:30
smatzektrovestack has some pretty tangled dependencies on needing x86 I'm told.15:31
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amrithsmatzek trevormc this sounds like an issue that would be great for both of you to pick up offline, yes?15:31
trevormcyeah i agree15:31
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trevormcamrith, agree for offline that is15:32
amrithwhen the change to requirements lands in Trove, you'll be all synced. but this week is release week15:32
smatzekyep, just giving status on Trove deployment, setup, onboarding15:32
amrithso expect projects to have divergence15:32
amrithon requirements15:32
amrithgreat, thanks smatzek15:32
amrithanyone have anything else they'd like to chat about?15:33
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trevormcnothing here15:33
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songjiannothing15:33
amrithgoing once15:33
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SlickNik-nothing else from me either15:34
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amrithgoing twice15:37
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amriththanks everyone, reminder that we'll have a hangout meeting tomorrow, 1500UTC. trevormc will send out details to the ML.15:37
trevormcyes i will15:37
amrith#action trevormc to send details to the ML about reboot meeting15:38
amriththanks everyone15:38
amrith#endmeeting15:38
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SukhdevFolks - time for ML2 meeting16:01
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sadasuhello16:01
Sukhdevsadasu : hi16:02
Sukhdevwaiting for others to show up -16:02
Sukhdevsadasu : it looks like it is just you and I16:04
sadasuI guess so16:04
sadasuwe'll give it a couple more minutes?16:04
pcarverI'm here if trevormc wants to discuss any of his work in progress.16:04
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Sukhdevpcarver : cool - thanks16:05
pcarverBut I'm behind on emails and reviews, so I know nothing of status if he's not around16:05
Sukhdev#startmeeting: networking_ml216:06
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:06
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SukhdevI have not prepared any agenda today and wanted to keep it open16:06
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SukhdevWe will discuss things based upon the attendees16:07
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:07
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Sukhdevrkukura is out today and will not be attending today's meeting16:07
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trevormco/ sorry im lat16:07
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SukhdevWe'll keep the meeting short16:08
trevormcyeah not much from me.16:08
Sukhdevtrevormc : hi16:08
sadasutrevormc: carver is here16:08
SukhdevAnybody has any announcements?16:08
trevormcnothing from me16:09
SukhdevI was out last last week - so, do not have much16:09
Sukhdev#topic: RFEs/Bugs16:10
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Sukhdevtrevormc : I have not had a chance last week to sync up on any of your stuff - sorry about that16:10
trevormcSukhdev: I haven't been able to move forward with it yet... I'm trying to gather some hardware16:11
trevormcso no worries16:11
Sukhdevtrevormc : Do you want to share your update as to where things stand and what do you need help with?16:11
trevormcI know the port mirroring functionality for VFd is underdevelopment16:12
trevormcbut they plan to use direct ports.16:12
trevormcso the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tap-as-a-service/+bug/1693248 is still what I want.16:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1693248 in tap-as-a-service "[RFE] Mirror VF Ports" [Undecided,New]16:12
trevormcalthough, I haven't used the project and am not familiar with the API. Ian wells said something about it not being able to work. So there are some doubts.16:13
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pcarverMirroring using the NIC hardware presents some challenges, not the least of which is that it depends on what capabilities specific hardware has.16:14
pcarverIdeally we'd like to abstract it, but the abstraction still needs to be constrained by what the hardware can actually do.16:15
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pcarverBut the basic idea is that if hardware is able to provide some form of mirroring, we'd like to be able to use it in cases where the VM port is an SR-IOV VF that bypasses any vSwitch/vRouter on host.16:16
SukhdevI just read ijw comment and am bit confused -16:17
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trevormcsukhdev, I think it has to do with the switching technology built into the switch16:17
trevormcNIC16:18
trevormcbuilt into the NIC. sorry16:18
SukhdevI see -16:18
trevormcJumping ahead here, For https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1693240 we were planning on querying trunk ports and creating a list of VLANs to filter based on that. Then passing that information to VFd.16:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1693240 in neutron "Support SRIOV VF VLAN Filtering" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016)16:18
SukhdevSo, one of the things we discussed in the last meeting - my suggestion was to have a test system and setup the Tass API and see what works and what holes need to filled16:19
trevormcdefinitely agree16:19
trevormcI requested to have a server until the feature-freeze for this cycle. hopefully i get it.16:20
Sukhdevtrevormc : as to the second bug, you are right on - that is what we discussed in the last meeting16:21
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trevormcoh whoops, I forgot. time flies when you're having fun :)16:21
Sukhdevtrunk ports will give you the list of vlans16:21
Sukhdevtrevormc : I had suggested to speak with Rosella - did you have a chance to sync up with her?16:21
trevormcSukhdev, shoot! no I did not.16:22
trevormcI'll ask her for her opinion on the two bugs mentioned above.16:22
Sukhdevtrevormc : I would strongly encourage you to reach out to her. She and I discussed the trunked port implementation and APIs16:23
* trevormc checks her activity report16:23
trevormcok looks like our times sync up.16:24
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SukhdevI was looking for the integration of Ironic (bare metal servers). She and I had a fishbowl session in one of the summit on this topic, hence, she can provide you the right details16:24
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trevormcok she just asked me to email her. she is going afk16:25
Sukhdevexcellent!!16:26
Sukhdevtrevormc : let me know how it goes16:27
trevormcwill do16:27
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SukhdevAnything else?16:27
trevormcno thats all.16:28
Sukhdevsadasu : anything on your mind?16:28
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sadasucatching up on the conversation in the last 5 mins because I was pulled away16:29
Sukhdevah  I see16:29
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sadasuok....I don't see a discussion on the SR-IOV VF VLAN filtering16:30
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sadasucaught up..nothing from me16:31
Sukhdevpcarver : anything on your mind to discuss?16:31
pcarverSukhdev: Nope. I'm just here in case trevormc wanted any background info16:32
Sukhdevperfect!!16:32
trevormcthanks for joining pcarver, I appreciate the support!16:32
Sukhdev#topic Open Discussion16:32
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SukhdevAnything to discuss which we have not covered already16:33
SukhdevLooks like we are done16:33
SukhdevThanks everybody16:33
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trevormco/16:33
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:33
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jniesz /msg nickserv identify ez2drive19:52
jnieszfds19:52
rm_workwhelp19:54
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rm_worki pretty much always /query nickserv19:54
rm_workfor exactly that reason :P19:54
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun  7 20:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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johnsomHi folks!20:00
nmagnezio/20:00
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JudeCo/20:00
xgerman_o/20:00
johnsomPretty full agenda today.20:01
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johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
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johnsomThis week is Pike-2 milestone20:01
johnsom#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html20:01
johnsomI will be cutting our Pike-2 releases today20:01
johnsomAlso on releases, I had some stable branch releases queued, but the stable team did not like the DIB changes, so I need to work through that.  I will probably split them up.20:02
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johnsomFor reference DIB changes the package that has the command to execute, requiring  a requirements.txt change which is not cool on stable, so...20:02
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rm_workumm20:03
rm_work<_<20:03
rm_workthey can't make an exception?20:03
johnsomAlso of note, there is a lot of discussion on the mailing list about changes to the docs team.  Basically a push to move more of the docs under the project repos.  So I think that is a good thing.20:03
rm_workaren't we already doing that?20:04
johnsomrm_work They probably will, I just need to circle back and make the case20:04
rm_workwhat more can we move under our project20:04
rm_workAFAIK *all* of our docs are in our project already20:04
johnsomYes, we have been aggressively moving our docs into the repo20:04
rm_workso, it's a NOP for us?20:04
johnsomThere is still some setup stuff in the networking guide that I hope to move into an install guide for us.20:04
johnsomYeah, no-op, but something to raise as all of the projects will need to start dealing with this20:05
johnsomPlus, we have been pushing to own our own docs20:05
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johnsomAlso, goals are a hot topic for the Queens series.  Fun.20:05
johnsomWe have not closed our Pike goals (py3 and wsgi) yet.20:06
johnsomPy3 we need to shift some voting around with n-lbaas20:06
rm_work>_<20:06
rm_workwe were the first to close our our wsgi goal... technically20:06
rm_work*close out20:06
johnsomAlso, they changed the wsgi goal to now be running standalone with a wsgi pass through in Apache, so yeah, start over on that fun20:07
johnsomrm_work True!20:07
rm_workof all projects AFAIK20:07
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johnsomThey changed it the day we merged20:08
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johnsomAh well.  I'm worried about the impact to projects with these goals and them not being thought through at the start of the cycle.  It burns a bunch of time.20:08
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rm_workyes20:09
johnsomFinal announcement, due to the great work from JudeC we are about to have an openstack client plugin that has almost all of the features!20:09
johnsomWe should be able to merge the rest of it today.20:09
JudeC:)20:10
johnsomI will probably create a new release of that tomorrow if all goes well.20:10
johnsomAny other announcements?20:10
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johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:10
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johnsomAny progress reports to share or hot bugs?20:11
johnsomI see some came in about failover and the public subnet that I plan it investigate later today.20:11
johnsomWow, ok, nobody jump in at once.20:12
johnsomOn to the agenda items...20:12
johnsom#topic jsonschema blueprint20:12
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johnsom#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/octavia/+spec/jsonschema-api-validation20:12
johnsomSo it was raised that WSME is not really being actively maintained (I have not researched this) and we should consider jsonschema as an alternative.20:13
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johnsomMy quick glance at jsonshema is that it isn't a full replacement for WSME.20:13
johnsomAnybody have thoughts on this?20:14
nmagnezisorry i'll have to read more carefully first, so can't comment20:14
nmagnezi:)20:14
johnsomYeah, no problem.  I just wanted to raise awareness and see if others had opinions on this20:15
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johnsomI did check, it is in global requirements.20:15
johnsomI guess I will do some searches and see if other projects are using it with their API20:15
rm_workwell20:16
rm_workI know internally we use voluptuous and I think it seems neat?20:16
rm_workit was mentioned in one of the linked ML threads20:16
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rm_workas an alternative20:16
johnsomHmm, yeah, that is in global reqs as well.20:17
johnsomI'm just not sure how pressing of a concern this is...20:17
johnsom#topic Oslo versioned objects blueprint20:18
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johnsom#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/octavia/+spec/oslo-versioned-object20:18
johnsomThis has come up before20:18
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johnsomMy take on this is, yes, we probably should do it at some point20:19
johnsomAgain, not sure there is a pressing need until we need to contract a database schema.20:19
rm_workright yeah20:19
rm_worknothing is broken20:19
rm_workwhen something breaks...20:19
rm_worki mean, i don't know who happens to have the copious free time necessary to do this stuff20:20
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xgerman_yep, low priority20:20
johnsomI know most of the folks that worked on neutron's OVO implementation are not working on OpenStack anymore, so I'm not sure there is a lot of developer resource around to work on this.20:20
xgerman_and it’smore pressing for themn because of ROPC calls20:20
johnsomYeah, and rolling upgrades20:21
johnsomWhich again, so far we have only added to the schema, so...20:21
johnsomAny reason not to approve this blueprint at a low priority in case someone wants to work on it?20:22
xgerman_nope20:22
rm_worki'd say go for it, but with the recommendation that we still discuss voluptuous vs jsonschema20:22
johnsomI will probably push back a bit just to have more details added20:22
rm_worki'm not sold on jsonschema20:22
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johnsomYeah, the jsonschema thing I'm going to hold on for more research time20:23
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johnsom#topic Proposal to move Octavia to storyboard\20:23
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johnsomSo, the storyboard folks reached out asking if we are interested in migrating.20:23
johnsomThey have run test migrations using the octavia launchpad data with success20:24
johnsom#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/20:24
johnsomI have not looked at it in a few years when it was first proposed20:24
johnsomAny thoughts here?20:24
nmagneziwhat are the benefits here? how is it better compare to launchpad? (i have not looked at it)20:25
johnsomIt's nice to have developer support for the move, but I'm also not hating launchpad at the moment.  It seems to be ok for our small team needs20:25
xgerman_sbalukoff was a bof proponent of stiryboard20:25
xgerman_bof=big20:25
johnsomThere is some discussion here:20:26
johnsom#link https://storyboard-blog.io/20:26
johnsomReally, I have not looked at it too much in a long time.20:26
xgerman_looks more modern ;-)20:26
johnsomMaybe this is another one where we go research and come back next week ready to discuss.20:27
nmagneziyup20:27
rm_workyeah20:27
rm_worki hate to fix what's not broken20:27
rm_workat this point20:27
rm_workwith such limited mental bandwidth20:27
johnsomYeah, I'm kind of in that mode too20:27
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johnsom#topic multibinder20:28
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466260/20:28
rm_workI wonder if the automation is there for CR auto-updates / etc20:28
johnsomSo, I have kind of said what I wanted to say about this on the patch.  I -1'd it but the author put up another patch.20:28
rm_workah i thought he abandoned it20:29
jnieszyea, I believe he abandoned it20:29
johnsomAh, he did yesterday.  Ok!  Solves that.20:29
jnieszI tested reloads with 1 vCPU and didn't notice any impact20:29
jnieszwhen members are added/removed is it called through systemctl?20:30
jnieszthe reload that is20:30
johnsomYeah, my analysis of the issue is our default with 1 CPU should not be impacted20:30
johnsomYes20:30
jnieszjohnsom, I can share some of the numbers with you that I did with benchmarks and reloading 4x per second20:31
johnsom#topic Discuss asynchronous API and response handling (updates) (rm_work / johnsom)20:31
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johnsomjniesz Alway interested to hear folks experiences20:31
johnsomWe kind of ran out of time last week on this one.20:32
rm_workso my take on this is that i'm ok with the method everyone else liked last time20:32
rm_workwhich was that?20:32
johnsomIt was option 1 (or at least that is what I liked)20:32
rm_workthough, I've kinda run out of available time to hack at this, so this whole discussion may be a moot point again, unless other people have copious free time20:32
nmagneziyup.20:32
nmagnezi120:32
johnsom1. We return the data in the pre-update form but with provisioning status "PENDING_UPDATE".  i.e. If they update the name field, the data the API will return will still have the old name but reflect that a change is in progress.  This means we return the user accurate data at all times, but can be confusing.20:33
rm_workerr wait20:34
rm_workisn't that what we do NOW?20:34
xgerman_yep20:34
rm_workcan you just copy/paste the rest again20:34
johnsomWell, for the most part yes.  I think we should go through and clean up and make sure it is consistent, but yes20:34
johnsom2. We return the data with "faked" updates and "PENDING_UPDATE".  This way the user gets back what they just changed, but the changes may not yet actually be applied yet.  Followup GET calls will reflect the accurate state and not the "faked" data.  For example, setting the LB to admin_state_up=False would show false in the response, but the LB would still20:35
johnsom3. We change our revert models such that we actually update the database with their requested changes.  This means the result and future GET calls reflect the requested change, even though they may not yet be in effect.  "PENDING_UPDATE" would still apply.  To enable proper rollback to "actual state" we would need to pass the previous state data model over20:35
johnsom4. Make the calls synchronous.  Probably not a good idea.20:35
johnsom5. Don't return anything on an Update call.  This is how the new OSC commands behave.  It would mean breaking the API though, so rolling the version, etc.20:35
johnsomThat is what came off the top of my head last week20:35
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rm_workhmmm20:37
johnsomI would probably also add a blurb in our api-ref about this too20:37
rm_worki think i liked 3, but i do admit that is weird in its own right20:37
rm_workso maybe just leaving it alone is better20:37
rm_workdo we know of anywhere there are inconsistencies?20:38
xgerman_it’s confusing but that’s all20:38
johnsomI just have a nag in the back of my head that it needs double checked.  I'm happy to do that20:38
rm_workk20:38
johnsomIt is a bit confusing, but gives the user an accurate view.  Also confusing is getting back a change but not having the actual traffic flow reflect it yet....20:39
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johnsomI.e. doing an admin-state-up=False, getting back that result, but traffic is still flowing.20:39
johnsomIt really comes down to the meaning of PENDING_UPDATE20:39
rm_workyeah20:40
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rm_workwell, I also kinda wanted a "SYNC" command20:40
rm_workin the operator API20:40
rm_workto "try again"20:40
rm_workbut that doesn't work without us saving the pending state somewhere20:40
rm_workbecause it's lost once the worker gives up20:40
xgerman_is it?20:41
rm_workif we save the state immediately, at least you can try a SYNC20:41
johnsomYeah.  I wonder if we shouldn't change the way we pop things off the handler queue.  Plus, job board should make that case better too20:41
rm_workxgerman_: AFAIK yes, since it's not saved to the DB anywhere, just passed to rabbit, picked up, acknowledged, and now the only copy is in the worker's memory20:41
rm_workyes, I think job-board could improve this20:41
rm_workif it maintains a state of the rabbit data20:41
rm_workor rather, the job data in-flight20:41
johnsomWell, job board would maintain the state of the flow20:42
rm_workjohnsom: yeah i did kinda wonder why we did an immediate ack20:42
rm_workis it because a LB create can take like 10m? :P20:42
johnsomYeah, I wondered the same20:42
rm_workwe just need to set the timeout a little higher on rabbit20:42
rm_workand then it'd like...20:42
rm_workwork PROPERLY20:42
rm_workie, worker dies, another can actually pick up the task after the timeout period20:42
rm_workinstead of it being gone forever20:42
rm_workbut again, i think jobboard is supposed to solve for this? harlowja20:43
johnsomThe benifit of job board is you are less likely to run into resource issues where the queue option can blow up with ports in use and such20:43
rm_workyes, true20:43
rm_worki want to say most of our operations don't have that issue, but20:43
rm_worki think actually the majority do20:43
xgerman_don’t summon him - he will push etcd again20:43
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rm_workLB obviously does, Listener plugs the VIP, member plugs subnets20:43
rm_workxgerman_: i'm working on the etcd3 driver myself :/20:44
rm_workit's actually a pretty good idea for smaller scale <_<20:44
JudeCXgerman_: lol20:44
rm_workthe UDP HM driver is great for *hyperscale* but way overkill otherwise20:44
johnsomDoes job board use etcd?20:44
rm_worknot sure -- maybe? :P20:44
johnsomhahaha20:44
rm_worki mean it's an openstack base service now, so20:44
johnsomOk, so on the async thing.  For now, return actual state with PENDING_UPDATE?20:45
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rm_workIE, no change20:45
rm_worki'm really voting for "no change" rather than specifically that mode20:45
johnsomYeah, just document it and make it official-ish20:46
johnsomHow about the rest of everyone?20:46
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johnsomxgerman_ nmagnezi jniesz ???20:47
jnieszyes that makes sense to me20:47
johnsomJudeC20:47
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johnsomWe are a team, so I like feedback from the whole team...  Grin20:47
johnsomOk, study hall for the rest of you...  grin20:48
johnsom#topic Batch updates of members (rm_work)20:48
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rm_workyeah so, PUT sucks20:48
johnsomrm_work this was your topic....20:48
rm_workright now we are using PUT for members to do what PATCH really is supposed to be for20:48
rm_workwe have no way to just *set* a list of members20:49
rm_workwhich means people have to do a ton of fiddly-work20:49
rm_workthis leads to the case of having a ton of very quick changes in succession20:49
rm_workwhich exacerbates things like the reload issue20:49
rm_workso, any opinions on how we might do a *replace* action for members20:50
johnsom#link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/http.html#http-methods20:51
rm_workI don't know of any APIs that actually use PATCH (nor do I know if Pecan even supports it)20:51
johnsomThe API-WG is not super helpful here20:51
rm_workwell20:51
rm_workPUT is supposed to be for a full update20:51
johnsomYeah, I agree with PUT is normally full updates20:51
rm_workso a PUT to /v2.0/lbaas/pools/12345/members20:51
rm_workshould *set the list of members*20:51
rm_workactually maybe I CAN implement it just like that?20:52
rm_workwithout breaking existing functionality20:52
rm_workas I don't think we use PUT directly on the /members at the moment20:52
rm_workright?20:52
JudeCYes20:52
johnsomSo is part of this that we should accept lists of objects?  I.e. create more than one LB in one call?  (I think we should)20:52
rm_workyes20:52
rm_workwell20:52
rm_worknot necessarily that low20:52
rm_workbut20:52
rm_workit's kinda part of "expanding single-actions to all objects"20:52
rm_workso I can treat it as such20:52
rm_workbut I think PUT /v2.0/lbaas/pools/12345/members20:53
rm_workis the answer20:53
johnsomCorrect, PUT is not valid on /members without a member ID currently20:53
rm_workany objections to enabling that?20:53
johnsomNo.20:53
rm_workI can make a BP on launchpad20:53
jniesznone here20:53
johnsomNot from me20:53
xgerman_sounds vood20:53
harlowjaya, jobboard can be used for stuff like that, though imho its a bigger arch change for octavia20:54
harlowjabut sureeee :-P20:54
johnsomharlowja We will wait for you to finish...   grin20:54
harlowjaha20:54
johnsomOk rm_work any more on batch updates of members?20:55
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:55
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johnsomA few minutes left, any other topics for today?20:56
rm_workhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/octavia/+spec/member-put-list20:56
rm_work^^ made that BP20:56
rm_workah and20:56
rm_workis everyone OK with *codifying* officially the requirement not to use backslashes for line continuation?20:56
rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/471503/20:56
rm_workit's in the style guide as "preferred" but20:57
rm_workIMO we are already following it20:57
eanderssonThat is so much cleaner20:57
johnsomYeah, comment on the patch.  I think it is a good thing (frankly I thought it was already a restriction)20:57
eanderssonbackslashes are evil20:57
rm_workand we should just make it official20:57
rm_workyes, I was really confused when I discovered it wasn't already in place20:57
rm_workas I thought it always was20:57
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xgerman_yeah, pep8 always criticized me for backsalsh and I had to do crazy bracktes20:58
rm_workI THOUGHT SO!20:58
rm_workBut I can't find it anymore20:58
rm_workT_T20:58
rm_workif anyone can find it (maybe it's just disabled by default now?) we can use that version instead of the one I cooked up20:58
johnsomIt must have been pulled out20:58
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rm_workbut, mine seems to work fine20:58
rm_workif you want to verify, pull down the patch, add some backslash continuation somewhere, and run the pep8 checks20:59
johnsomOut of time, thanks folks!21:00
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johnsom#endmeeting21:00
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